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frubulubu
01-28-2010, 09:28 PM
Eagle fan here...Just wondering what ya'll think about the Mcnabb rumors to the vikes?

Brothgar
01-28-2010, 09:37 PM
Makes sense if Favre bolts.

vikes_28
01-28-2010, 09:50 PM
If Favre is gone then I say we pursue him. But I don't want to give much up for him. Maybe a 2nd round pick at the most.

Kid_Ego
01-29-2010, 01:26 PM
a 2nd round pick is a lot for a guy who is only going to be around maybe 4 years and has a injury history ten miles long. I loved McNabb coming out of college i would of loved and cheered for him to be a viking but we have some serious needs DT MLB CB QB OL S and possibly RB that we need just to maintain the momentium we have now. 2nd round pick is just too much to give for a 3-4 year stop gap. That they will have to rid themselves any way of

killxswitch
01-29-2010, 01:40 PM
a 2nd round pick is a lot for a guy who is only going to be around maybe 4 years and has a injury history ten miles long. I loved McNabb coming out of college i would of loved and cheered for him to be a viking but we have some serious needs DT MLB CB QB OL S and possibly RB that we need just to maintain the momentium we have now. 2nd round pick is just too much to give for a 3-4 year stop gap. That they will have to rid themselves any way of

That seems completely backwards. The Vikings are ready to win now.

Brothgar
01-29-2010, 01:43 PM
a 2nd round pick is a lot for a guy who is only going to be around maybe 4 years and has a injury history ten miles long. I loved McNabb coming out of college i would of loved and cheered for him to be a viking but we have some serious needs DT MLB CB QB OL S and possibly RB that we need just to maintain the momentium we have now. 2nd round pick is just too much to give for a 3-4 year stop gap. That they will have to rid themselves any way of

I disagree I mean I would try to make a huge trade and get McNabb for a 3rd but it won't happen. You are not going to get an above average starting QB for less than a 2nd round pick. That said I would drop a 2nd if I were the vikes. The Vikings are so close to a SB it is not even funny. It took 5 turnovers to have the Saints beat you and even then it went into overtime. This point is mute if Favre comes back but it is time to win now You can get safety in the third round. (The kid from FSU should be still there) You take care of your QB. You can hit one of the other 3 needs in round 1 if Pat Williams comes back that is one less thing you have to worry about for the next season. That is 4 of your 6 needs already taken care of in the first 3 rounds. The OLine isn't that bad really get some depth in round 5 and then grab a CB in round 4. Are they perefect? no but no team is without needs.

yo123
01-29-2010, 04:33 PM
Geez you guys overrate draft picks so much. McNabb is probably a top 10 QB in the league and 2nd rounders are hit or miss. If the Eagles offered that we would be stupid to say no.

As broth said we are insanely close right now and to not fill the biggest need on the team because you don't want to give up a pick where it's a 50/50 chance whoever we pick is going to be worth a damn anyway would make no sense.

Kid_Ego
02-05-2010, 01:55 PM
I really dont see it that way. I see the fact we have had excellant production out of the second round Loadholt johnson rice griffin henderson Kliensasser with our one bad pick being Cook who may actually not be that bad if we left him at the same position and his orginal position Center. Compared to just 5 first rounders since Bryant McKinnie The Second Round is usually Production over prediction. Usually second rounders are solid players who almost always make the team. at affordable prices that is why the patriots usually trade out of the first and into the second and third rounds because all the bull crap is usually out of the way and the quality players.

hagy34
02-05-2010, 05:20 PM
I'd glady give up a 2nd round pick for McNabb and so would the Vikings. The issue is that Philly probably wants more than a 2nd.

marshallb
02-06-2010, 09:23 PM
I'd glady give up a 2nd round pick for McNabb and so would the Vikings. The issue is that Philly probably wants more than a 2nd.

This. I'd be willing to give up next year's first for him as well as a mid-late rounder(5th-6th), or a second this year and a mid-late rounder.

vikes_28
02-08-2010, 12:27 PM
I wouldn't give up a first for McNabb.

prock
02-08-2010, 04:47 PM
a second rounder for mcnabb would make me cream.

BlueBandit24
02-09-2010, 04:08 PM
I would give up a 2nd as well, but I'd be upset if they threw a 1st at the Eagles.

hagy34
02-09-2010, 05:04 PM
I'm hoping we keep Favre and don't have to worry about a trade this year. But would you guys really be upset with the thought of trading Chad Jones/Nate Allen/Brian Price ect. for McNabb?

This team would be way better off with McNabb and no 1st round pick than with TJack/Sage and whom ever we select. We are in a position where if Favre walks we almost have to overpay for a QB. Whether that be McNabb or even trading up for Bradford.

vikes_28
02-10-2010, 12:20 AM
I'm hoping we keep Favre and don't have to worry about a trade this year. But would you guys really be upset with the thought of trading Chad Jones/Nate Allen/Brian Price ect. for McNabb?

This team would be way better off with McNabb and no 1st round pick than with TJack/Sage and whom ever we select. We are in a position where if Favre walks we almost have to overpay for a QB. Whether that be McNabb or even trading up for Bradford.

Trading up for Bradford would honestly be better than spending too much on McNabb. I know that Bradford is an NFL ready QB. He's kind of like Mark Sanchez, only with more experience. McNabb is just injury prone. And spending a 1st on him would be terrible. Trade this years 1st and 3rd and next years 1st for Bradford. Sounds good to me. We have everything in place, and this is a really deep draft, especially along the D-line. Someone like Nate Allen or Chad Jones should be there in the 2nd.

brat316
02-10-2010, 01:09 AM
How is Bradford NFL ready? He hasn't taken a snap under center? Who knows how he reads defenses while dropping back? Footwork?

We always complain about qbs and the system they play in and putting up massive numbers, how is Bradford excluded from this club?

hagy34
02-10-2010, 09:10 AM
Trading up for Bradford would honestly be better than spending too much on McNabb. I know that Bradford is an NFL ready QB. He's kind of like Mark Sanchez, only with more experience. McNabb is just injury prone. And spending a 1st on him would be terrible. Trade this years 1st and 3rd and next years 1st for Bradford. Sounds good to me. We have everything in place, and this is a really deep draft, especially along the D-line. Someone like Nate Allen or Chad Jones should be there in the 2nd.

Spending a 1st on McNabb wouldn't be ideal but it wouldn't be terrible. How can you say that. You have no idea what Bradford would bring. I want Bradford as much as the next guy but it is very unlikely we will be in a position to move up to get him. And for the record he is nothing like Mark Sanchez? Where do you get that comparison?? Sanchez was much more NFL ready coming out of USC playing a legit pro style offense.

vikes_28
02-10-2010, 11:52 AM
Spending a 1st on McNabb wouldn't be ideal but it wouldn't be terrible. How can you say that. You have no idea what Bradford would bring. I want Bradford as much as the next guy but it is very unlikely we will be in a position to move up to get him. And for the record he is nothing like Mark Sanchez? Where do you get that comparison?? Sanchez was much more NFL ready coming out of USC playing a legit pro style offense.

I understand that. But I'm saying that Bradford would play the same role in the Vikings offense as Mark Sanchez did in the Jets offense. Game manager and basically let the running game and defense do the work. And to tell you the truth, I'd rather have Bradford than Sanchez, cause Sanchez was a starter for 1 year in college. Bradford has been for a while.

djp
02-10-2010, 03:21 PM
No first for McNabb. Late first rounders are arguably more valuable than top 10 picks in the current climate, although without a cap coming it probably goes back to the old value.

I'd do a 2nd and a 4th and not blink.

Todd Bertuzzi
02-10-2010, 04:30 PM
McNabb's not going anywhere...

And you're crazy if you think anything less than a 1st would net you McNabb. He's a top 10 qb in the league.

vikes_28
02-10-2010, 05:29 PM
McNabb's not going anywhere...

And you're crazy if you think anything less than a 1st would net you McNabb. He's a top 10 qb in the league.

He's a top 10 injury prone QB. He's a liability.

djp
02-10-2010, 05:36 PM
McNabb's not going anywhere...

And you're crazy if you think anything less than a 1st would net you McNabb. He's a top 10 qb in the league.

I think a 2nd AND a 3rd could do it for McNabb. He is entering the decline stage and the Eagles seem to really like Kevin Kolb (who, in terms of cost, is probably more valuable to Philly than McNabb).. it's still unlikely that McNabb leaves Philly, but if he did, I could see them netting our 1st for him, sure. But in terms of value, 2nd and 3rd round picks have had a lot more value placed on them because of how cheap they cost to sign for the talent you get. Sidney Rice is making $550,000 next year.

BlueBandit24
02-11-2010, 03:23 PM
I don't see anyone giving up a 1st for McNabb. He's still a quality quarterback, but he's turning 34 this year and it's an old 34 considering his history of injuries; he's one major injury from being pretty much done. A 2nd + is OK with me but nothing more.

I dislike the idea of selling the farm for Bradford even more. Two 1st's and a 3rd is far too much IMO, even though it's a pure hypothetical. That's the type of move that could handcuff us for years.

hagy34
02-11-2010, 03:33 PM
He's a top 10 injury prone QB. He's a liability.

Jesus. McNabb is not a liability. Are you crazy??

prock
02-11-2010, 03:35 PM
He's a top 10 injury prone QB. He's a liability.

yeah sorry vikes, i disagree with you. mcnabb isnt a liability. tavaris is a liability.

superman8456
02-11-2010, 03:50 PM
I don't see anyone giving up a 1st for McNabb. He's still a quality quarterback, but he's turning 34 this year and it's an old 34 considering his history of injuries; he's one major injury from being pretty much done. A 2nd + is OK with me but nothing more.

I dislike the idea of selling the farm for Bradford even more. Two 1st's and a 3rd is far too much IMO, even though it's a pure hypothetical. That's the type of move that could handcuff us for years.

What team, other thank the Vikings, is ready to win a Superbowl RIGHT NOW and they dont have a franchise QB?

You're the only one. McNabb is the only QB on the market that would have good playoff experience and could easily succeed with the Vikings. I'm not saying McNabb gets traded, but if he did, you guys would be looking at the very least a deep playoff run.

hagy34
02-11-2010, 06:29 PM
yeah sorry vikes, i disagree with you. mcnabb isnt a liability. tavaris is a liability.

Perfectly said.