ESPN

[TNewFan41]

What do you guys think of ESPN? Personally, and I know a lot of people feel the same, I feel that it is a joke, and when people take seriously waht people what Sean Sealsbary and Mark Schlerith have to say, I think of 2 possible things. 1, you don't have NFL Network, lol, or 2, ESPN gets so much hype that everyone watches it and worships it, because they are so-called "experts". (even tough they are no where close to experts)

What is your opinion? Because I have already stated mine, and I think it is a joke.

[cordscords]

I just like their news coverage, not the analysis.

[etk]

You are an expert, you should be the football analyst on ESPN. Your Cowboys analysis is unparalleled in my opinion.

[TNewFan41]

You are an expert, you should be the football analyst on ESPN. Your Cowboys analysis is unparalleled in my opinion.

So you are for ESPN?

wow. I bet ESPN will win this, which is a joke.

THEY SUCK.

[etk]

Well Terence Newman won your other poll, so that was a joke too, because he sucks.

[TNewFan41]

LOL ok. Easily better than Ronde Barber. And that is why he was on everyones pro-bowl list, and ronde barber was not, but the fans are a joke.

[TNewFan41]

ETK, you would honestly take Ronde Barber right now over Terence Newman? right now. Newman just entered his prime, and ronde is leaving his, and Newman is better anyway.

I mean come on, be realistic now.

[Splat]

I don't have NFL network so I'm stuck watching NFL Live every day.

[etk]

Ronde was more deserving to be in the Pro Bowl last year. In the Tampa 2, I would take Ronde over Newman. In any other defense, I'd take Newman this year.

[bsaza2358]

ESPN is a hodge podge for me. I think Sports Center sucks anymore. Too much shtick and not enough real news. The analysis they get on their sports is very good. You just have to pick and choose. I like certain analysts, but I don't listen to others. If you're willing to put up with crappy work from certain people, you will get the benefit of the doubt from others. Some of NFL Network's stuff is a little off as well. I like to mix and match and take from both of them.

[TNewFan41]

Ronde was more deserving to be in the Pro Bowl last year. In the Tampa 2, I would take Ronde over Newman. In any other defense, I'd take Newman this year.

NO WAY IN HELL RONDE DESERVED TO BE IN THE PRO-BOWL OVER NEWMAN. NO WAY, and you no that.

I do agree that Ronde is better in the Tampa 2 because he is a slow, zone CB, and Newman is a fast, more of a man-to-man CB. In any other system Newman is way better. But Newman is better in a Tampa 2 than Barber is in any other system, that is why I don't really like Barber. He would get flat out DESTROYED if he played in a man-to-man type of game all game. Newman wouldn't be very comfortable in a tampa 2, but he could still play at a pro-bowl.

Newman definitly deserved the pro-bowl over Barber though. They both should have been in there though, D-Hall was the one who has no business there.

[niel89]

i hate how espn doesnt talk about newman enough. he was clearly better than ronde barber and deserves to be mentioned daily on espn.


really though where is the "i watch it but dont worship what they say" option.

[niel89]

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[TNewFan41]

i hate how espn doesnt talk about newman enough. he was clearly better than ronde barber and deserves to be mentioned daily on espn.


really though where is the "i watch it but dont worship what they say" option.

OK, come on guys, enough with that crap. ETK and I are having a good srguement right now, please don't mess it up.

[bsaza2358]

Are you guys kidding me? This is a thread about ESPN, and there's been little discussion of the topic. If you guys want to keep up the debate about Newman and Barber and anyone else, feel free to revive the old thread, where somehow Ronde Barber was debated in a discussion about NFC East CB's...

[niel89]

this pole is very unfair and biased

[Shiver]

http://www.neowin.net/forum/fun/ban_him.jpg

[bsaza2358]

TNew, you are a hypocrite. You say you are a TNewman fan, yet you have a Reggie Nelson sig. You have lost all credibility. Given that you had none to begin with, I guess you have earned credibility...

[TNewFan41]

Are you guys kidding me? This is a thread about ESPN, and there's been little discussion of the topic. If you guys want to keep up the debate about Newman and Barber and anyone else, feel free to revive the old thread, where somehow Ronde Barber was debated in a discussion about NFC East CB's...

LOL ok then, lets keep it on ESPN, because we all now Newman is better than Ronde now. :)

Anyway, I have to watch ESPN because I have nothing else, but I think it is a joke.

[bsaza2358]

This thread is pretty lame...

[TNewFan41]

this pole is very unfair and biased

How? I put and option for thinking ESPN is a joke, 1 for liking ESPN, and and 1 for watching it only because you don't have NFL Network, how in the world is that biased?

[TNewFan41]

This thread is pretty lame...

I know, just wanted to see what people think. I guess the oublic is stupid, because they watch ESPN faithfully.

[bsaza2358]

I think that post was unfair and biased because niel mispelled "poll", even though it was spelled properly at the top of the page...

[bsaza2358]

As I said, people can get good information out of ESPN if they stick with the right analysts and also do their own research. Guys like KC Joyner and Mort and John Clayton get excellent info. Ron Jaworski is a fantastic analyst. I don't like Salisbury, but he does some good analysis on game tape. Guys like Michael Irvin and the Gameday jokers are a waste of my time...

[The Legend]

none of the above i watch it sometimes when nfl network shows something i have already seen

[Damix]

So when a poll proves his point, its ok, but when a poll goes against his opinion, its a joke.

Why even make a poll then?

[hugepunch]

this is my impersonation of salisbury. and i guarantee you one thing tom brady will throw 1 million touchdowns and win 5 more super bowls when its all said and done.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

1. Wrong forum
2. Not a very good thread
3. Why is Terrance Newman not an option?

[bsaza2358]

My impression of a TNew Poll:

Is Tnew always right?

* yes

* absolutely

* yes

Does this ring a bell to anyone?

[hugepunch]

1. Wrong forum
2. Not a very good thread
3. Why is Terrance Newman not an option?
shhhhh do not speak of those of which we do not speak of.

[bsaza2358]

Another TNew Poll:

If a tree falls in the forest, and no one's there to hear it, is Terrence Newman still the best CB ever to play in the NFL?

* yes

* absolutely

* yes

[Ho0k Em']

I watch it and enjoy it, but doesn't mean I agree with everything they say.


so i didn't vote.

[BigDawg819]

You have to take ESPN with a grain of salt, while they cover everything their so-called experts usually are idiots with some exceptions. But hey any network with Kenny Mayne is okay with me!

[bantx]

faithfully lol, i mean if you don't like it dont watch it jeez, start a hate thread about espn. get a life

[bsaza2358]

Kenny Mayne is a little overrated. He is fine in small doses, but he's an entertainment news anchor. His actual analysis is not what one would consider expert testimony. The network employs a lot of talented individuals. If you stick with the ones who know their stuff and prove themselves again and again, you are generally safe.

[Eaglez.Fan]

I'd pay 40 bucks a month to have ESPN, Canadian sports shows suck. You're lucky to have them

[princefielder28]

I like the news coverage as well but their "experts" are questionable at best

[etk]

I agree with EaglezFan, and as far as TNewFan, no I don't "know" that Newman deserved to be in the Pro Bowl. He was burned by several people as listed by Shiver, and Ronde was solid all season and put up much more impressive statistics. Ronde was much more valuable for his team, single-handedly stopping the Eagles and dominating McNabb, who was on the way to an MVP season at that point.

Ronde Barber Career statistics: 662 TKL, 20 sacks, 31 INT, 5 TD, 107 pass defelections.

Terence Newman Career statistics: 239 TKL, 2 sacks, 12 INT, 0 TD, 53 pass deflections.

Overall difference: +423 tackles, +18 sacks, +19 INT, +5 TD, +54 pass deflections, all for Ronde.

Ronde is only 3 years older than Newman, so I think he has proven himself as a better corner.....

[bsaza2358]

COME ON!!! This has nothing to do with the current thread. Stop it...

[Jensen]

I watch it sometimes because there aren't any better stations around that cover sports...

[slightlyaraiderfan]

I'd pay 40 bucks a month to have ESPN, Canadian sports shows suck. You're lucky to have them
You mean you would have your parents pay 40 bucks a month. ;)

[jagsfreak27]

The highlights

[Go_Eagles77]

I'm not a big fan of other sports so I watch NFLN a hell of a lot more.

[Eaglez.Fan]

You mean you would have your parents pay 40 bucks a month. ;)

Same thhhiiiinnggg

Well I'm actually going to watch the Guardian right now on blue ray, haha :p

[Severe Punishment]

I watch ESPN. Mainly for the Sunday ...then Monday Night games (which were a far cry from what they were on ABC) and would never watch them during the day. I switched from Cable to the Dish as soon as they were offered in my neighborhood for FREE NFL network cable wanted me to spend another 4.99 because the rest of their limited lineup sucks.
With the Dish I get the NFL Network for free and spend the extra 5 bucks a month on a FOX sports package so I can watch College football and baseball from around the nation. Seriously Comcast / Charter / Time Warner whoever you have is about 20 years behind the times.
The whole "When the weather is crappy I don't get a signal" nonsense is way overhyped as well. In the 4 years I've had the dish I've never lost a picture.

anyways the NFL Network dominates in every facet. Sean Salsbury doing commentary on chess would be a joke, on football it's worse.
Look at the "experts" hired by ESPN....it's a laundry list of hacks and liars constantly trying to come up with new trade "rumors" that they start.
They make me want to vomit. When the t.v. in my living room isn't showing a game or the NFL Network it's shut off.

[Hines]

LOL ok then, lets keep it on ESPN, because we all now Newman is better than Ronde now. :)

Anyway, I have to watch ESPN because I have nothing else, but I think it is a joke.



if newman is better than ronde
then y do a lot of fans know who ronde is and nobody knows newman
and y is ronde in a lot of pro bowls
and newman isnt
like i said in the thread of nfc east u r makin him like deion
or better than deion
god get off newmans nuts
he aint that good

[DChess]

i watch it and respect it. two main reasons:

peter gammons
mel kiper jr

[KILLERSANTA]

This thread is GGGGGGGGGGGGGreat......

[neko4]

I dont always agree wih the "experts" but its definitly enjoyable and informative

[KCJ58]

i watch sportscenter every single day for the past 8 years (im only 17)

[The Unseen]

I still turn it on first thing every morning for Sportscenter. I like the personalities, and some analysts, but I want NFLN again so badly.

[KILLERSANTA]

i watch sportscenter every single day for the past 8 years (im only 17)

I watch ESPN beofre i go to work..And from 4-7PM after i get home...Sometime more............

[BigDawg819]

Another TNew Poll:

If a tree falls in the forest, and no one's there to hear it, is Terrence Newman still the best CB ever to play in the NFL?

* yes

* absolutely

* yes

BRILLIANT!

[TNewFan41]

Hey, The Legend, you are still wearing that sig? I made it like 2 years ago, lol.

I can make you a better one if you want....

[lionsfan320]

I like NFL network, but I cant stand Jamie Dukes.

whenever he is talking, I have to turn off the TV. He is probably the most ignorant and loudest analyst there is

[etk]

I like NFL network, but I cant stand Jamie Dukes.

whenever he is talking, I have to turn off the TV. He is probably the most ignorant and loudest analyst there is

Actually that is not true at all. Jamie Dukes is very insightful and interesting, and he is far from an ignorant loudmouth. He has a vibrant personality, but he is far from Michael Irvin.