The 2011 Recruiting Thread

[keylime_5]

the ice storm up north is making this signing day interesting. two buckeyes haven't faxed/emailed their LOIs in because of no power. will be funny if Tressel has his press conference and he can't talk about these kids b/c he doesn't have their LOIs.

[BuckeyeDan17]

Price and who else haven't submitted? Also, did ESPNU seriously already tape Grant's commitment?

[Notredameleo]

Any news about Andrew Buie and Jon Davis?

[keylime_5]

Price and who else haven't submitted? Also, did ESPNU seriously already tape Grant's commitment?

Price is in. Carter hasn't faxed yet (is in jail I guess). Gambrell can't get to a fax machine and Devin Smith has no power in Massillon.

[Chucky]

Corey Long:

Crowell wearing Under Armor gear. Could he be off to Auburn too??!?!?!

From the ESPN chat. Crowell and Dyer would make me all tingly inside

[draftguru151]

Crowell to UGA, shocking.

[keylime_5]

the baby bulldog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cuteness points

[JRTPlaya21]

Crowell to UGA!!! woooohooooooooooooooooo!!!

[BuckeyeDan17]

Price is in. Carter hasn't faxed yet (is in jail I guess). Gambrell can't get to a fax machine and Devin Smith has no power in Massillon.

Right on. Devin Smith is why I'm not sad about missing on Story. Carter's scholly to be pulled? Our OL class is going to ****??

[keylime_5]

Ohio State OLine recruiting is depressing.

[Flaming Mo]

Crowell to UGA! YES!

[JRTPlaya21]

Cyrus has not signed his LOI yet.

[Sniper]

Curtis Grant to Ohio State. Their linebacker class makes me sick.

[49erNation85]

Dam OSU stealing a ILB grr .

[Sniper]

******* Christ, OSU's defensive class is loaded.

[JRTPlaya21]

Congrats to Curtis officially! Repping that colonial district football to the fullest :)

[JRTPlaya21]

Duron Carter said on twitter..."Breaking News- Hurricane coming soon!!!!!!!!! Lol"

[Sniper]

God damn it. TX TE Chris Barnett commits to Arkansas over Michigan.

Okay, maybe never mind? Chris Barnett to Michigan!

[Silver & Blue]

God damn it. TX TE Chris Barnett commits to Arkansas over Michigan.

Hold on second, it now sounds like Chris Barnett has picked Michigan!

EDI:You beat me to it.

[Sniper]

Holy ****. Barnett had some pretty legit offers.

Per MGoBlog...

http://mgoblog.com/

Barnett decommitted from Arkansas to join Michigan's class of 2011 (he had previously decommitted from Oklahoma to join Arkansas's class), and the Razorbacks know what a good tight end looks like. "Bobby Petrino tight end" is like "Wisconsin offensive lineman" or "USC pro-style quarterback" in terms of recruiting cachet from a single offer.

The rest of Barnett's offers, then, should follow suit. Miami (YTM), USC, Clemson, Florida State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Stanford, and Utah are just a few of his more-notable names.

[Silver & Blue]

Holy ****. Barnett had some pretty legit offers.

Per MGoBlog...

http://mgoblog.com/

Barnett is definitely a great pickup for Michigan. He already has great size for an incoming freshman.

[Arsenal]

Some of the ESPN recruiting guys are reporting on Twitter that Cyrus hasn't signed his LOI yet, won't sign today, and is reconsidering his decision. Appears he didn't know what he was going to do when he got up there, blurted a school out, and now isn't sure where he wants to go still.

edit: Not to pick on Auburn but I'm reading Jermaine Whitehead's mother is refusing to sign his LOI to Auburn, which is required since he's still a minor. Never heard of that one before but interesting.

[BigJohn98]

Terry Bell and Tre Jackson to FSU.

[Sniper]

edit: Not to pick on Auburn but I'm reading Jermaine Whitehead's mother is refusing to sign his LOI to Auburn, which is required since he's still a minor. Never heard of that one before but interesting.

Vidal Hazelton.

[shylo3716]

I just got back in the crib & I know I missed a lot, but who else will be making anouncements?

[shylo3716]

Vidal Hazelton.

What's the scenario with them 2 players, because this is the first I have heard of a parent refusing to sign a LOI?

[Arsenal]

I don't think the Whitehead thing is true anyway, just a rumor. Appears his LOI is in.

And as for what's the deal, it would basically be the parents don't want them to attend a school and basically make them sign somewhere else since they can't attend the other school without their permission.

It appears those Cyrus rumors are true though and he won't be signing today and is going to rethink things to make sure he made the right choice.

[Chucky]

Potentially losing Cyrus makes me a sad panda. Him and Westerman would be ******* sexy pair of tackles for a few years

[Don Vito]

Potentially losing Cyrus makes me a sad panda. Him and Westerman would be ******* sexy pair of tackles for a few years

That's what you get for stealing Whitehead. Honestly though wtf is up with these recruits flipping between Bama and Auburn, that is more attention whoreish than switching hats at your press conference.

[Chucky]

I don't think the Whitehead thing is true anyway, just a rumor. Appears his LOI is in.

And as for what's the deal, it would basically be the parents don't want them to attend a school and basically make them sign somewhere else since they can't attend the other school without their permission.

It appears those Cyrus rumors are true though and he won't be signing today and is going to rethink things to make sure he made the right choice.

Ya it is ******* weaksauce. If we lose Cyrus and Calloway to Bama I will not be pleased

[Hines]

MD S Adrian Amos signs with Penn State. Like this kid quite a bit. Good late pickup.

[Sniper]

Potentially losing Cyrus makes me a sad panda. Him and Westerman would be ******* sexy pair of tackles for a few years

Westerman is probably a guard.

[Hines]

Floyd Raven to Texas AM.

[703SKINS202]

Floyd Raven to Texas AM.
My friend was telling me his mom forged his signature on his LOI to Ole Miss or something like that??

[Don Vito]

Yeah Raven's mom signed his LOI and faxed it in, but he has second thoughts apparently. He seemed like a bit of a headcase, definitely talented but what can you do. We got ourselves a pretty good class despite losing out on Whitehead and Raven.

[TitanHope]

I came into the this class thinking this was going to be a depth class, and stoked if Tennessee finished Top 15 according to most services, so they've exceeded my expectations greatly. They missed on guys like Dawson and Wright, but in Dooley's first start-to-finish class, I'm happy. Especially about locking down the OL for the next few years with Richardson and Clear at OT, Jackson at OG, Crowder at OC, and depth guys with Kyler Kerbyson, who's a hometown kid, and Alan Posey.

Of course, they could have blown it and I still would've spun it positively since I want Dooley to succeed because I like him.

So apparently Kiffin decided to take oversigning with him from the SEC?

(Note: I realize that they have appealed their sanctions, so technically with 25 commits they haven't oversigned. I'm just assuming they'll get at least a couple more throughout the day as well.)

In Kiffin's only recruiting class at Tennessee, he signed 22 players. So while we can knock the guy for his umpteen minor violations, hostess gate, and taking shots at other coaches (although the "Singing Rocky Top in Florida, yadda yadda" one was overblown by a mile), he never oversigned and actually left the Vols in bad shape because he let a bunch of players go and didn't even take a full class (then when he left, more players left).

Not that I would have put it past him to take 30 the next season, which it looks like he could have done.


Also... WHAT THE **** SOUTH CAROLINA? 33? 34 if they get Clowney.

[cdmPSU17]

Kouandjio having second thoughts.

Jenn Brown is all over it.

[LizardState]

Calloway back to Bama.

That was a huge steal, cleaned up on the in-state talent.

Kouandjio is allegedly an Auburn commit 3 hrs ago,, now "wavering" allegedly.

Rivals even had his tweets back & forth w/ his older brother who is an O-lineman at Bama.

[LizardState]

Kouandjio having second thoughts.


See ........wavering now.

[JoeJoeBrown]

See ........wavering now.

Who is Saban going to kneecap to make space?

[iowatreat54]

Some entertainment for Michigan fans (and everyone else)...

This is from Darian Cooper's twitter on Monday January 31:

I talked to coach Gil and Head coach earlier today my LOI is in the mail

MSU fans are taking this as he committed to MSU on Monday. Why is this entertaining you ask? For a couple reasons:

1. Some MSU fans are acting like because it was a "last minute switch" to Iowa, there were shady dealings.
2. Recruits do not mail in their LOI.
3. And perhaps the best...apparently MSU has their own signing rules where LOI day is January 31 and not February 2.

From what I've read, Cooper was confused or wondered why MSU never gave him a LOI to sign, as all other schools offering him would have done so. Apparently he talked to the coaches on Monday and it was a simple mistake and they mailed it to him.

Oh Sparty. Keep claiming shady dealings and "character concerns" over a kid because he "switched last minute."

[critesy]

koandjio wants to goto AU.
his parents want him to play with his brother.
my opinion is he sends his letter to AU tomorrow to sign.

[critesy]

That was a huge steal, cleaned up on the in-state talent.

Kouandjio is allegedly an Auburn commit 3 hrs ago,, now "wavering" allegedly.

Rivals even had his tweets back & forth w/ his older brother who is an O-lineman at Bama.

what?!?! show me how you cleaned up in the in-state talent.

[SickwithIt1010]

koandjio wants to goto AU.
his parents want him to play with his brother.
my opinion is he sends his letter to AU tomorrow to sign.

Hmmm i would have never guessed lol.

[critesy]

hahaha gotta be optimistic :)

[djp]

Urban Meyer : "You're not always gonna get a guy with good character..." We know, Urban. The police blotter in Gainesville knows, too.

[bearsfan_51]

Yeah Raven's mom signed his LOI and faxed it in, but he has second thoughts apparently. He seemed like a bit of a headcase, definitely talented but what can you do. We got ourselves a pretty good class despite losing out on Whitehead and Raven.
http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/TempletonPeck/TexAgs/thats-so-raven.jpg

[shylo3716]

Most surprising recruiting class to me is UVA

[keylime_5]

Everything I've read about recruits considering Virginia is how much they love Mike London. I have a feeling he's gonna turn UVA into a pretty decent team.

[shylo3716]

3-4 years down the line who will have said to been the best CB prospect from this class?

My pick is Demetrious "Tre" Nicholson

[Axl Rose]

I love ND's recruiting clas! We probably never gonna win a recruiting national title since ND doesn't over sign like other schools. But team needs have been addressed, and its a class full of studs.

The top recruiting classes IMO are....

1-Georgia
2-Clemson
3-LSU
4-Alabama
5-Notre Dame

[LizardState]

what?!?! show me how you cleaned up in the in-state talent.

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/recruiting/school?id=333&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fcol lege-football%2frecruiting%2fschool%3fid%3d333

Read that list: Clinton-Dix, Shinn, Woodson, Calloway, Jones, Sunseri, Collins, & Love are in-state.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Clinton-Dix is from Florida.

[draftguru151]

Yea the state is basically split between Auburn and Bama....

And sniper where the hell is the 2012 thread!

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Out of Scout's top 40 ranked players in Virginia, UVA got 25 of those guys including 8 of the top 10 in the state. That's called keeping talent in state. At least Carolina isn't stealing our local talent anymore. Curtis Grant was the only top recruit in the entire state of Virginia who left the Metro D.C. area. Mike London could be building something special, a far better recruiting class than Vatech and Maryland. London is building a pipeline in the Hampton Roads area which will pay big in the future and keep some of those guys from going to tech or out of state.

[JRTPlaya21]

Black Mamba to the Ducks is now official.

[JayP]

Supposedly De'Anthony Thomas aka the Black Mamba is entertaining the idea of switching to Oregon.

God damn it, I will punch a baby I swear.

Poor baby.
http://static2.freeaddictinggames.com/thumbs/3023.jpg

[BigJohn98]

#1 class on ESPN. Feels great.

[Halsey]

I don't like it when fans say a school is "stealing' talent from another state. Schools have the right to recruit in any state they want. Players have a right to go to the school they want. There's no stealing going on.

[jballa838]

UW signed 3 of the 4 plays in america that I wanted. F***in Mamba. At least we got a top tier TE, the Parade Player of the Year and Antavius Sims.

[SickwithIt1010]

Poor baby.
http://static2.freeaddictinggames.com/thumbs/3023.jpg

yeah i knocked him around good.

[jballa838]

yeah i knocked him around good.
As a UW fan, I'd rather he would have stayed at 'SC than go to Oregon. Oh well, maybe he'll be their first heisman trophy winner, and he'll bring them their first Rose Bowl win in forever. Wouldn't count on it though.

[SickwithIt1010]

As a UW fan, I'd rather he would have stayed at 'SC than go to Oregon. Oh well, maybe he'll be their first heisman trophy winner, and he'll bring them their first Rose Bowl win in forever. Wouldn't count on it though.

I didnt even want him to play RB at SC....he'd be a lock down corner.


Supposedly Oregon had a homogram type set up or a virtual simulator that showed him what he would look like in their offense and what not and really sold him on the idea....Idk, ill try and find the link but it sounds like they pulled out all the stops for him.

Phil Knight prolly promised him his own line on black mamba shoes.

[JRTPlaya21]

Just watched his announcement video and he was quite emotional. As much as it may anger USC fans at the switch just be blessed with what recruits are coming. These are still boys at the end of the day and what they see as their best opportunity has to outweigh what we as fans may want.

[JoeJoeBrown]

I didnt even want him to play RB at SC....he'd be a lock down corner.


Supposedly Oregon had a homogram type set up or a virtual simulator that showed him what he would look like in their offense and what not and really sold him on the idea....Idk, ill try and find the link but it sounds like they pulled out all the stops for him.



I always suspected Kiffen was a homogrexual.

[Sniper]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/knights/os-recruiting-leilon-willingham-raysh20110203,0,7176630.story

CO LB Leilon Willingham to Central Florida over Michigan and Colorado. ****.

[ironman4579]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/knights/os-recruiting-leilon-willingham-raysh20110203,0,7176630.story

CO LB Leilon Willingham to Central Florida over Michigan and Colorado. ****.

Apparently that late visit to UCF swayed him. It's also rumored his high school teammates were pushing pretty hard for him to go to UCF as well as some relatives. He would have been nice to get, but I feel like Hoke and co. put together a pretty decent class with what little time they had.

Plus it's one more open spot for some midwest studs next year. ;)

[iowatreat54]

http://www.tidesports.com/article/20110203/NEWS/110209866/1011?Title=Kouandjio-update-Alabama-Auburn-or-Iowa

While Cyrus Kouandjio seemed to have narrowed his choices to Alabama and Auburn before the announcement, the father said Iowa is now in the mix.

"He's deciding between Alabama, Auburn and even Iowa," Jean Claude Kouandjio said. "It may even come back to Iowa. He's considering his options even more now. Those three (schools) have been floating in his mind"

...wait, what?

Why must you do this to my Cyrus? Stop getting my hopes up!!

[thenewfeature06]

Out of Scout's top 40 ranked players in Virginia, UVA got 25 of those guys including 8 of the top 10 in the state. That's called keeping talent in state. At least Carolina isn't stealing our local talent anymore. Curtis Grant was the only top recruit in the entire state of Virginia who left the Metro D.C. area. Mike London could be building something special, a far better recruiting class than Vatech and Maryland. London is building a pipeline in the Hampton Roads area which will pay big in the future and keep some of those guys from going to tech or out of state.

UVA has certainly surprised me with the way they have recruited given how they have been borderline bowl eligible for awile now. London is getting it done it seems.. I wanted Demetrius Nicholson badly too. Anyway, we have signed a couple kids from VA with high praise, but as a whole you guys probably overcame people taking your talent this year for whatever reason. Travis Hughes and Landon Turner are the major signings for us and both will probably see the field alot.

[ToldLikeItIs]

Feel good about Cy.

[brat316]

So how did those over signing rules work this year? Everyone except the Big 10 pretty much does it.

[iowatreat54]

So how did those over signing rules work this year? Everyone except the Big 10 pretty much does it.

Well, everyone is allowed to do so by the NCAA. As long as they have only 85 on scholly by fall (I believe).

I think the Big Ten is the only conference that actually limits teams to 25 recruits per class, or 28 with EEs/greyshirts.

Pretty much it's not against the rules, but it's seen as pretty unethical, especially when it comes out that guys like Saban will force 5th year seniors to take medical scholarships when they don't need them so that the athletic scholly is open for a recruit.

[SickwithIt1010]

I always suspected Kiffen was a homogrexual.

touche sir....Hologram*** lol

[brat316]

Well, everyone is allowed to do so by the NCAA. As long as they have only 85 on scholly by fall (I believe).

I think the Big Ten is the only conference that actually limits teams to 25 recruits per class, or 28 with EEs/greyshirts.

Pretty much it's not against the rules, but it's seen as pretty unethical, especially when it comes out that guys like Saban will force 5th year seniors to take medical scholarships when they don't need them so that the athletic scholly is open for a recruit.

There is an NCAA rule that limits them to 28, signed LOI between Feb and Aug, something like that. But then again we know the NCAA are hypocrites for football and turn a blind eye to the sport. Once in a while they come out and set an example then go back to hiding. Signing 32 helps lower the chances of making a mistake.

[JoeJoeBrown]

touche sir....Hologram*** lol

I've unfortunately had much worse typos... :)

[CashmoneyDrew]

So uh, is Jacoby Brissett ever going to decide?

[BigJohn98]

Tomorrow he will.

[critesy]

cyrus' hs coach now says he will have a decision tonight or tomorrow. (oh jeeze)

[LizardState]

cyrus' hs coach now says he will have a decision tonight or tomorrow. (oh jeeze)

Think maybe the ongoing Auburn investigation might be factor in his hesitation?

Like the pundits making his lead story about De'Anthony "The Black Mamba" Thomas switching from SC to Oregon when there isn't any other news to report..... just b/c he's from Crenshaw in The Hood doesnt mean he's uninformed.

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1184626


SC is on probation, hellllloooo. Oregon has been & continues to be the greatest Pac 12 beneficary of USC's probation.

[sbh15]

Talk that Brisset is gonna go to UF and that Maggit hasn't sent his LOI to UT and will switch to UF

[CashmoneyDrew]

Maggitt sent his LOI in yesterday afternoon.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Teddy Bridgewater to the U or I'll ban every last one of you.

Ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

It's interesting going back to the beginning of this thread and seeing what everyone said.

[JHL6719]

Guys we should get!:


Hopefully LB-Trey DePriest. 2011 gonna kick ass.


We'll take DePriest, kthanks. Roll Tide.

[draftguru151]

Ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

It's interesting going back to the beginning of this thread and seeing what everyone said.

Brissett better choose the U tomorrow or you're all ******.

[keylime_5]

We'll take DePriest, kthanks. Roll Tide.

eh, I'll take Curtis Grant.

[Punisher]

eh, I'll take Curtis Grant.

Hey Key, what is your opinion on Aundrey Walker? How is his work ethic,etc?

[JHL6719]

Who is Saban going to kneecap to make space?


Wait... didn't Purdue just get barred from recruiting at Armwood Highschool for pulling the scholarship of A.J. King because they were worried about the knee ligament surgery he underwent last year?

I thought this kind of thing never went on the Big-Ten....

Nevermind Illinois having 27 commitments.


The "legends" and "leaders" sounds more like a bunch of "crybabies" and "hypocrites".

[P-L]

Big Ten allows you to take 28 kids as long as you don't go over the 85 limit. Illinois has complied with the Big Ten's rules. And while I don't condone the actions of Purdue, there is a difference between dropping a kid a few days before NSD while they still have time to find another school (King committed to Western Michigan yesterday) and forcing players off the team after they're already on campus. But please, continue making an ass out of yourself.

[draftguru151]

Just listened to an interview with Dwyer's head coach, apparently one of the top defenders in the country was committed to a school in Florida, but a coach from that school called him a dumb mofo to another coach and that coached recorded it, and the kid committed else where. Anyone hear about this/know who it was?

[keylime_5]

Hey Key, what is your opinion on Aundrey Walker? How is his work ethic,etc?

the only problem with Walker is that a guy who is 6'6/355 should dominate people but he didn't, and he played guard in high school instead of tackle -which is where the best guy usually plays when he's 6'6". It's not that he underachieved in high school, just that he didn't play like he was enormous, rather like he was 290 lbs instead of 350+. That's really the one knock on him. He doesn't get beat or anything like that, he's a good run blocker and very quick on his feet in pass pro, he's just not as dominant as his physical talents suggest he should be. If he had a mean streak he'd be a 5-star top 20 player.

[bearsfan_51]

Big Ten allows you to take 28 kids as long as you don't go over the 85 limit. Illinois has complied with the Big Ten's rules. And while I don't condone the actions of Purdue, there is a difference between dropping a kid a few days before NSD while they still have time to find another school (King committed to Western Michigan yesterday) and forcing players off the team after they're already on campus. But please, continue making an ass out of yourself.
Also, they only pulled King's scholarship after he turned down a grey shirt opportunity, meaning that he was still being offered a scholarship.

I think they should have told him a lot sooner (assuming they didn't), but honestly, with a kid coming off a huge injury, I'd grey shirt him too.

[critesy]

Think maybe the ongoing Auburn investigation might be factor in his hesitation?

nothing to do with it.

hopefully he has his decision tomorrow. want that LOI at AU. would probably start at RT.

[Sniper]

Roll Tide.

******* right, Roll Tide.

Greatest commercial ever.

[Sniper]

Wait... didn't Purdue just get barred from recruiting at Armwood Highschool for pulling the scholarship of A.J. King because they were worried about the knee ligament surgery he underwent last year?

I thought this kind of thing never went on the Big-Ten....

Nevermind Illinois having 27 commitments.


The "legends" and "leaders" sounds more like a bunch of "crybabies" and "hypocrites".

Big Ten allows you to take 28 kids as long as you don't go over the 85 limit. Illinois has complied with the Big Ten's rules. And while I don't condone the actions of Purdue, there is a difference between dropping a kid a few days before NSD while they still have time to find another school (King committed to Western Michigan yesterday) and forcing players off the team after they're already on campus. But please, continue making an ass out of yourself.

Let's not let facts get in the way of a good time.

27 commitments in the SEC just means you're about three or four behind the average. As a matter of fact, Illinois' class would be tied for third-largest in the SEC with Tennessee and Ole Miss (who must be sad about the small class compared to their recent history). They'll backdate two of them to last year. But yeah, we can cherrypick for your argument if you want.

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/2011/02/04/quick-numbers-comparison-b1g-and-sec/

The SEC signed 47 more players than the Big 10 this year. With the average Big 10 class sitting at 20 recruits, that is enough extra recruits for 2.35 Big 10 schools; in other words, the 291 recruits the SEC signed would be enough to supply roughly 14.5 Big 10 schools with the conference average class size. With each school averaging 4 more players, if you extend that for 4 years, each SEC school would have signed on average 16 more players over a four year period, which is just slightly less than the average recruiting class size in the Big 10. So basically, the SEC is working their way through 5 recruiting classes in 4 years. Guys don't pan out, some don't qualify, some run into the Nick Saban medical hardship machine, and others decide that Georgia State is where they always dreamed of playing. It would be one thing if this was an anomaly, but the historical data shows that this has been the case for some time.

Alabama had one unfilled scholarship and 12 departures (Eight seniors, Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, Marcell Dareus and a transfer), so that's a budget of 13 scholarships. Looks like they brought in a class of 21. In what world does 23=13?

Roll Tide, son. We'll get you ready for the NFL. Pro-style offense, pro-style defense and roster cuts.

Sad, too, because I really like a lot of Alabama's players. I'm actually sad that Ingram and Jones are gone because I had huge man-crushes on them, especially after they bitchslapped Sparty. At least I'll have Thunder Thighs Trent Richardson, though. He's dreamy <3, and so is Dre Kirkpatrick.

EDIT: For the record, I think Saban is a great on-field coach and a tremendous recruiter. I just don't like the practice of oversigning, especially so blatantly. <Insert Shot at Big 10 here from SEC fans, LOLZ 5 NASHUNAL TYTLLLES IN A ROW>. I don't really care. I don't like it when any team does it, but it's more prevalent in the SEC.

[JoeJoeBrown]

Wait... didn't Purdue just get barred from recruiting at Armwood Highschool for pulling the scholarship of A.J. King because they were worried about the knee ligament surgery he underwent last year?

I thought this kind of thing never went on the Big-Ten....

Nevermind Illinois having 27 commitments.


The "legends" and "leaders" sounds more like a bunch of "crybabies" and "hypocrites".

As Sniper pointed out, you guys aren't too good at math.

Illinois had room to sign that many and be at 85. They had early enrollees to back date a few to last year. Alabama did not. Auburn did not. Ole Miss did not. Etc...

I.e. the point is, you have to cut kids after signing day. That's the moral hazard. The B1G does not allow this. Most schools in the country don't allow this. Hell, half of the SEC schools don't allow this.

So Saban has to somehow cut 10 players off of his team and from his incoming recruits. Enjoy the unethical advantage while it lasts. It's going away sooner than later. There's enough noise about it out there, where even the UF AD has gone national with statements.

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/the-oversigning-cup/

[HindSight]

Don't worry though. They have enough unethical advantages that losing oversigning will only put a tiny dent in their overall skeeviness.

[jballa838]

Brissett to UW. Bank on it.

[thenewfeature06]

Who are his options?

[draftguru151]

Brissett to UW. Bank on it.

Washington isn't one of his finalists. It's basically between UM and UF with a small chance of Wisconsin.

[draftguru151]

Brissett is gonna commit to UF tonight. Son of a *****.

[TACKLE]

Brissett is gonna commit to UF tonight. Son of a *****.

****. That's some bullsh*t.

[JHL6719]

Let's not let facts get in the way of a good time.

27 commitments in the SEC just means you're about three or four behind the average. As a matter of fact, Illinois' class would be tied for third-largest in the SEC with Tennessee and Ole Miss (who must be sad about the small class compared to their recent history). They'll backdate two of them to last year. But yeah, we can cherrypick for your argument if you want.

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/2011/02/04/quick-numbers-comparison-b1g-and-sec/



Alabama had one unfilled scholarship and 12 departures (Eight seniors, Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, Marcell Dareus and a transfer), so that's a budget of 13 scholarships. Looks like they brought in a class of 21. In what world does 23=13?

Roll Tide, son. We'll get you ready for the NFL. Pro-style offense, pro-style defense and roster cuts.

Sad, too, because I really like a lot of Alabama's players. I'm actually sad that Ingram and Jones are gone because I had huge man-crushes on them, especially after they bitchslapped Sparty. At least I'll have Thunder Thighs Trent Richardson, though. He's dreamy <3, and so is Dre Kirkpatrick.

EDIT: For the record, I think Saban is a great on-field coach and a tremendous recruiter. I just don't like the practice of oversigning, especially so blatantly. <Insert Shot at Big 10 here from SEC fans, LOLZ 5 NASHUNAL TYTLLLES IN A ROW>. I don't really care. I don't like it when any team does it, but it's more prevalent in the SEC.


I'm sure Alabama has a larger budget for scholarships than a lot of places do... I'm not sure what Purdue or any other Big-Ten school has.

Alabama has the Bear Bryant Scholarship which automatically allows for any kid who's father played at Alabama to get a full ride... doesn't matter if he was an All American or a 4th stringer... Doesn't matter if he was a 5-star recruit or a walk-on.

If Purdue and/or Illinois aren't breaking any "written" rules, then neither is Alabama, or anyone else in the SEC.

What it amounts to is a bunch of Big-Ten crybabies looking for something to whine about due to being sick of watching their team's get curb stomped by the SEC.

Nick Saban offered Robert Quinn a scholarship when he was diagnosed with brain cancer whether he played a single down of football or not.

The bottom line is, the "losers" and "leftovers" in the Big-Ten could have ALL these kids that "get whacked" from SEC teams and would've have changed a single outcome in any of these games.


****, somebody get the ******* WAAAAAAAMBULANCE in here with some band-aids and lollipops for the Big-Ten- Butt-Hurts.

[Sniper]

I'm sure Alabama has a larger budget for scholarships than a lot of places do... I'm not sure what Purdue or any other Big-Ten school has.

Um, false. The maximum allowable amount of players on scholarships for any school is 85. Dassit.

What it amounts to is a bunch of Big-Ten crybabies looking for something to whine about due to being sick of watching their team's get curb stomped by the SEC.

My favorite team is something like 20-5-1 against the SEC. Try again.

Nick Saban offered Robert Quinn a scholarship when he was diagnosed with brain cancer whether he played a single down of football or not.

Back when, um, everyone offered Robert Quinn a scholarship? How noble of him.

****, somebody get the ******* WAAAAAAAMBULANCE in here with some band-aids and lollipops for the Big-Ten- Butt-Hurts.

Good one. Nice to see you've moved on from a fourth-grade level of education. You're doing well. When all else fails, just insult what you're debating. Fantastic logic. You add nothing to this conversation besides am hominem attacks. Solid work.

I'll ask again. In what world does having 13 scholarships available mean that you bring in 21? Maybe my math skills need work.

[ToldLikeItIs]

Saban's a prick and Alabama fans are creepy, case closed.

[critesy]

a text from cyrus to a main staff person at 247 says he'll decide on monday. but the way this is going it might be tuesday.. or wednesday...

[P-L]

Um, false. The maximum allowable amount of players on scholarships for any school is 85. Dassit.



My favorite team is something like 20-5-1 against the SEC. Try again.



Back when, um, everyone offered Robert Quinn a scholarship? How noble of him.



Good one. Nice to see you've moved on from a fourth-grade level of education. You're doing well. When all else fails, just insult what you're debating. Fantastic logic. You add nothing to this conversation besides am hominem attacks. Solid work.

I'll ask again. In what world does having 13 scholarships available mean that you bring in 21? Maybe my math skills need work.
You know, actually I think he's right. Who cares if SEC coaches are ******* with these kids' lives? It's all about football and winning, right? As long as you win bowl games you can ruin the lives of 17-22 year olds. And yes, being 3-1 against the SEC in our last four games against them with the one loss coming under the worst coach in our school's history mean we are in fact butt-hurt.

[brat316]

So Bama can actually field a team of like 100 guys? They hand out their 85 football scholarships. Then they find another 15 guys who's father played at Bama so thats not a football scholarship its more like academic and then they try out for the football team and make it? WTF loop holes for the WINZZ.

Scholarships are year to year they can be taken from players, but its pretty unethical to do it in August/July during TC and summer practices. They kid can't even get another scholarship or transfer to a school

[critesy]

also with auburns new staff, they havent been oversigning at all. tuberville left them in a below-average situation scholorship wise (not alot of kids on the team).
2010 was the first year they had a full season of recruiting and they signed 32.
5 counting back to the past year. so thats at 28 and then 1 didnt qualify and 1 got cancer. so thats at 26.
and if i counted right.. with all the seniors leaving and people going pro they have 55 people on schollys.
they have 24 signed in this class and if cyrus comes thats 25.

[brat316]

But those 5 early guys still should count against you for the new year. Just cause they enroll early they do not become part of the new class. Who knows how long before coaches tell juniors the smart ones, finish up your classes and graduate early. Enroll in Dec/Jan and you won't count.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Tennessee oversigned by one player this year. And that's because there is likely to be an academic casualty and Tennessee can't afford to not have a full class with the amount of attrition they've had the past 2-3 years.

[draftguru151]

Brissett to UF.

[Hurricanes25]

Brissett to UF.

That's a shame. He would have made the 'canes class hurt a lot less.

[critesy]

http://twitter.com/LauraMcKeeman/status/33695465832710144

Speaking with Brissetts mom.. She says things could change. He hasn't signed LOI. Jacoby tells me he sticks to UF but this ain't over folks!

edit, i suggest you check her twitter page out too cause she is suuuuuper sexy.

[draftguru151]

Haha Scout is building a group of hot reporters. The Cane board has a ranking. She is #1. :)

Jacoby's mom says she will keep trying to change his mind until he faxes Monday.

[SickwithIt1010]

Wouldnt it make more sense for Brisset to go to the U with Driskel and Trey Burton likely being the future at UF?

[shylo3716]

Wouldnt it make more sense for Brisset to go to the U with Driskel and Trey Burton likely being the future at UF?

I was about to say the same thing,because I think Driskel will get the Tebow praise. With Jacory out the picture the only 1 he would have to compete with was Morris.

[BigJohn98]

Wouldnt it make more sense for Brisset to go to the U with Driskel and Trey Burton likely being the future at UF?

Of course it would. These kids nowadays are ******* stupid.

[draftguru151]

He thinks he can beat out Driskel and he definitely has the ability to do so in a pro offense.

[Flaming Mo]

JUCO 4 star NT John Jenkins "heard Ray Drew's call" and commits to UGA!!!

[JRTPlaya21]

Dream team class complete!

[critesy]

great get. very good NT for ya guys.

[hawkeye123]

Is there any chance Clowney commits to USC?

[703SKINS202]

Is there any chance Clowney commits to USC?
It is decidedly so.

[BamaFalcon59]

I'm glad Brissett chose Florida. I don't think Miami's new guy is that great, and he will be the only non-senior QB on scholarship for them this upcoming season if I've heard right.

[SickwithIt1010]

Is there any chance Clowney commits to USC?

South Carolina? or Southern Cal? lol

[JRTPlaya21]

I'm glad Brissett chose Florida. I don't think Miami's new guy is that great, and he will be the only non-senior QB on scholarship for them this upcoming season if I've heard right.

Bama I believe you are due to an update to your sig seeing how VT earned another conference title.

[LizardState]

South Carolina? or Southern Cal? lol

I think he meant SCAR, lol. I was predicting Clemson b/c he wants to stay in-state, & b/c of Swinney's slick persuasive style & awesome recruiting track rcd, but SCAR seems to be the priority team.

You know, actually I think he's right. Who cares if SEC coaches are ******* with these kids' lives? It's all about football and winning, right?

You could say that exact same thing about Chizik taking the last Heisman winner at Auburn 2 yrs ago given his past from Florida & several pimping rounds at Miss. St.

[keylime_5]

Clowney's gonna go to Carolina, this has been done for a while. I don't buy the Clemson talk. 31 signees for the Gamecocks this year after signing 23 last year.

[draftguru151]

Cyrus Kouandijo to Bama.

[hawkeye123]

South Carolina? or Southern Cal? lol

Southern Cal.

I've heard they have a legitimate shot?

[703SKINS202]

Cyrus Kouandijo to Bama.
Wow Auburn fans must be pissed.

Southern Cal.
Zero.

[dannyz]

Cyrus Kouandijo to Bama.

Yep.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/02/cyrus_kouandjio_signs_with_ala_1.html

http://twitter.com/tommydeas/statuses/34026577004072960

[TitanHope]

Cyrus Kouandijo to Bama.

That poor 3rd string OT...

[JRTPlaya21]

Clowney says Bama is out. Down to South Carolina & Clemson now.

[critesy]

Sad panda me. Drinky drinky.

[iowatreat54]

That poor 3rd string OT...

Hey, don't insult Saban like that...

If there's a 3rd string DB or TE on scholly that he thinks isn't good, they are just as likely to have a "career ending" injury by Bama's definition.

Give the guy a little credit, he doesn't just limit himself to the one position he's replacing...

[TitanHope]

Hey, don't insult Saban like that...

If there's a 3rd string DB or TE on scholly that he thinks isn't good, they are just as likely to have a "career ending" injury by Bama's definition.

Give the guy a little credit, he doesn't just limit himself to the one position he's replacing...

Don't be sarcastic, Treat! The kid isn't going to be playing for Bama, so at least when he's informed via letter than his scholarship isn't being renewed, he'll have the opportunity for playing time at Jacksonville St.!

When you think about it, this is Saban doing the kid a favor!

[dannyz]

Clowney says Bama is out. Down to South Carolina & Clemson now.

I think Clemson might be the Winner. Even with them having a bad record they were still able to pull top recruits in.

[LizardState]

That poor 3rd string OT...

Me so happy-happy ; joy-joy!


TH must refer to DJ Fluker, he's the ORT who will have to face Kouandijo daily in practice & be humiliated by him like Dareus did.

[iowatreat54]

Me so happy-happy ; joy-joy!


TH must refer to DJ Fluker, he's the ORT who will have to face Kouandijo daily in practice & be humiliated by him like Dareus did.

I think that one sailed wayyyy over your head...

[TitanHope]

Me so happy-happy ; joy-joy!


TH must refer to DJ Fluker, he's the ORT who will have to face Kouandijo daily in practice & be humiliated by him like Dareus did.

Congrats mate, but I was referring to the poor sap why may get the boot to make room for Cyrus Kouanuaounuaoundijo. ;)

Southern Cal.

I've heard they have a legitimate shot?

Well, if anyone seemingly comes out of left field for him (or any prospect), then I'd put my money on USC. Whether it's a legit 11th hour switch, a silent commit who was told/chose to play the media/coaches/fans, or was convinced through...other means, who knows. Just seems like Kiffin has a habit of one shocker every year. Lamar Dawson could be the only one for 2011, though.

[SickwithIt1010]

Yeah i havent heard anything about SC with Clowney but Im pretty sure id be the happiest guy on the planet considering the Mamba broke my heart the other day.

Not getting my hopes up, but we would welcome him with open arms. :)

[JRTPlaya21]

Def staying in state. 100% certain of that.

[shylo3716]

I'm quite sure Clowney will be a lock for Clemson just off the strength of how Bowers was so successful & the surprising recruiting class will only help out.

[ToldLikeItIs]

jeremiah hendy is going to be let out of his LOI
will sign with iowa

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm quite sure Clowney will be a lock for Clemson just off the strength of how Bowers was so successful & the surprising recruiting class will only help out.

You're probably over-thinking it. He's a gamecock unfortunately. Always has been.

[LizardState]

Congrats mate, but I was referring to the poor sap why may get the boot to make room for Cyrus Kouanuaounuaoundijo. ;)

Sportswriters in Alabama will have to learn how to spell his name & they won't like that. I wish they would give Fluker the boot though. I'll shoot him in the foot myself.

Cyrus is the cherry on top of this recruiting class.

[JoeJoeBrown]

Wow. If this is true (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/06/sources-thomas-went-to-oregon-over-safety-concerns-for-him-family/), it's a sad and disturbing twist to the De'Anthony Thomas USC to Oregon switch.

If true, it sounds like he did the right thing.

[SickwithIt1010]

Wow. If this is true (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/06/sources-thomas-went-to-oregon-over-safety-concerns-for-him-family/), it's a sad and disturbing twist to the De'Anthony Thomas USC to Oregon switch.

If true, it sounds like he did the right thing.

I really dont believe that. If that were the case they would have put him in witness protection. If they really want to kill this kid and his family they will have no problem finding him in Eugene lol.

[JoeJoeBrown]

I really dont believe that. If that were the case they would have put him in witness protection. If they really want to kill this kid and his family they will have no problem finding him in Eugene lol.

He couldn't pursue football in witness protection. You've got to balance the good with the bad. Getting out of the immediate area would be number one. We'll see if it's true. I'm sure you will LOL if it is.

[SickwithIt1010]

He couldn't pursue football in witness protection. You've got to balance the good with the bad. Getting out of the immediate area would be number one. We'll see if it's true. I'm sure you will LOL if it is.

You think im going to laugh if this kid gets killed? I was mad that he bailed on my boys, but i dont want him to die! haha.

[JRTPlaya21]

Maika Polamalu to Navy. Ian Seau to KSU.

[MassNole]

Maika Polamalu to Navy. Ian Seau to KSU.
Relatives of NFL players?

[JoeJoeBrown]

You think im going to laugh if this kid gets killed? I was mad that he bailed on my boys, but i dont want him to die! haha.

I was being sarcastic. I just think that fans get too worked up when a kid switches commits. It's a huge decision in a kids life, and there are a lot of factors.

[JRTPlaya21]

Relatives of NFL players?

Troy's cousin & one of Junior's nephews. His other nephew picked San Diego St.

[SickwithIt1010]

I was being sarcastic. I just think that fans get too worked up when a kid switches commits. It's a huge decision in a kids life, and there are a lot of factors.

Oh I was definitely pissed off, but I was a kid who switched my college commitment a week before I was suppose to show up, so who am I to judge right?

[dannyz]

Maika Polamalu to Navy. Ian Seau to KSU.

Maika is pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12GWaaQwLWY

[critesy]

former fsu and au signee aubrey phillips is walking on at auburn.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/player-Aubrey-Phillips-70383

[shylo3716]

What is the word on Clowney?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Announcing Monday right?

[JRTPlaya21]

10:15 a.m. on ESPN U. Monday.

[M.O.T.H.]

I probably have nothing to worry about, but if Clowney spurns SCAR for Clemson...I'm going to flip ****.

[draftguru151]

If Clowney goes to Clemson they better be banned from ever playing football again with all the money they're throwing around.

[thenewfeature06]

UNC isn't an option anymore?!?

[P-L]

I'm not one to just throw around accusations, but there is definitely something fishy going on at Clemson. If they land Clowney, it would all but confirm it.

[M.O.T.H.]

UNC isn't an option anymore?!?

It's SCAR or Clemson. Bama is technically in the running, but not really. He pretty much eliminated them.

He's seemed SCAR bound forever so switching to Clemson now would really get my blood boiling.

[JoeJoeBrown]

I'm not one to just throw around accusations, but there is definitely something fishy going on at Clemson. If they land Clowney, it would all but confirm it.

What does it matter anyways? Deny deny deny. Clemson boosters still aren't paying as much as a bunch of other schools.

[SickwithIt1010]

What is the word on Clowney?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Jadeveon+Clowney+announcement

takin one out of the Sniper playbook.

[LizardState]

10:15 a.m. on ESPN U. Monday.

It's Valentine's Day, his 18th b'day, it all sort of intersects & comes to a zenith then & there.

Mothman, fret not -- it's going to be SCAR.

[BigJohn98]

I'm not one to just throw around accusations, but there is definitely something fishy going on at Clemson. If they land Clowney, it would all but confirm it.

Of course there is something fishy. Why would three 5* players from Florida go to Clemson? A 6-7 program that hasn't won an ACC championship since 1991 and will most likely never win another. There is nothing appealing about playing for Dabo, who will most likely be fired after another terrible season this year.

How do you think they had Craig Loston committed to them until Tommy Bowden stepped down?

http://www.t-g.com/photos/11/29/76/1129768-L.jpg

[sbh15]

A lot of people think Clowney might have to go to prep school

[draftguru151]

He just has to get a qualifying test score, which a lot of guys still have to do, not like he's dealing with grade issues.

[SickwithIt1010]

Of course there is something fishy. Why would three 5* players from Florida go to Clemson? A 6-7 program that hasn't won an ACC championship since 1991 and will most likely never win another. There is nothing appealing about playing for Dabo, who will most likely be fired after another terrible season this year.

How do you think they had Craig Loston committed to them until Tommy Bowden stepped down?

http://www.t-g.com/photos/11/29/76/1129768-L.jpg

Ahhhh, some schools pay kids money to go to school....Florida State just finds the top guys that cant get accepted to other schools.

FSU recruits kids with the intelligence of a 3rd grader. How some of those kids get into college is beyond me.

[Pat Sims 90]

Clowney set to announce on ESPN at 10:15 this morning. 3 Teams down to are Alabama, Clemson, and South Carolina.

I figure it will be South Carolina that gets him.

[JoeJoeBrown]

Ahhhh, some schools pay kids money to go to school....Florida State just finds the top guys that cant get accepted to other schools.

FSU recruits kids with the intelligence of a 3rd grader. How some of those kids get into college is beyond me.

Uh, lots of schools do that. I dunno if you saw the Auburn players post the NC game, but a few of those guys had the IQ of a cast iron skillet.

Also don't forget that FSU had a freaking Rhodes Scholar on the team a few years ago. Those don't come around too often.

If only there was only a way to give kids a test to determine if they were competent enough to enter college.

[JoeJoeBrown]

Clowney set to announce on ESPN at 10:15 this morning. 3 Teams down to are Alabama, Clemson, and South Carolina.

I figure it will be South Carolina that gets him.

That's an awesome sig.

[draftguru151]

Clowney to South Carolina. SHOCKING!

[shylo3716]

South Carolina is the choice for Clowney.

[Vikes99ej]

SC is going to be ridiculous next year.

[JoeJoeBrown]

SC is going to be ridiculous next year.

About the same as this year, so good for them.

[Pat Sims 90]

SC is going to be ridiculous next year.

SC DL is going to be sick to watch.

[LizardState]

SC is going to be ridiculous next year.

To no one's surprise it's SCAR:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=6118985

Mothman now all happy-happy, joy-joy.

Add Clowney to the SCAR talent base with Lattimore & Alshon Jeffrey, who will likely be the premier receiver in the nation next yr. . This puts them a notch above Tennessee & just a half-notch below Florida in terms of talent in the SECE.

[Vikes99ej]

To no one's surprise it's SCAR:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=6118985

Mothman now all happy-happy, joy-joy.

Add Clowney to the SCAR talent base with Lattimore & Alshon Jeffrey, who will likely be the premier receiver in the nation next yr. SCAR. This puts them a notch above Tennessee & just a half-notch below Florida in terms of talent in the SECE.

Don't forget Stephon Gilmore.

[M.O.T.H.]

SCAR is soooo stacked. I cant wait to get this thing going already. I just hope we see a marked improvement in the secondary. If that comes, SCAR may be SEC Championship bound.

[Pat Sims 90]

SCAR is soooo stacked. I cant wait to get this thing going already. I just hope we see a marked improvement in the secondary. If that comes, SCAR may be SEC Championship bound.

With the talent they have. I think with anything less then winning the SEC is a major dissappointment.

[brat316]

SCAR SEC champ this year or next?

[Don Vito]

Lattimore
Alshon
Clowney
Gilmore

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/36972.gif

SCAR will be very good next year. The OL was improved last year and if Garcia grows up some more they could be a legit SEC contender.

[JoeJoeBrown]

Lattimore
Alshon
Clowney
Gilmore

http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/36972.gif

SCAR will be very good next year. The OL was improved last year and if Garcia grows up some more they could be a legit SEC contender.

The rest of the East is going to be better next season. They have a chance at being just as good as this year. I.e. 2-3 regular season losses and a shot at the SEC Title game.

[brat316]

Unless Lattimore leaves after this year.

[M.O.T.H.]

Unless Lattimore leaves after this year.

He's a true Sophomore. He's got two more years. Alshon and Gilmore will be leaving early, however. And Garcia is a Senior.

[sbh15]

Word on the street is that Momma Jernigan is driving a brand new Escalade... and so we see the beginning of the exploitation of the "Cam Newton Rule". PS, Clemson is doing this too.

[thenewfeature06]

http://www.tarheeltimes.com/article30556.aspx

Heels get a JUCO LB "Fabby Desir" from Scranton, PA.. looks to be a steal. Didn't even know we could still pick up guys but guess so.