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nofalcons10
02-06-2010, 10:01 AM
does anyone wan't to guess the 40-yard dash times of the draft prospects this year?

after the combine we can go back and check how well we did or didn't do.

CLong4Heisman
02-06-2010, 10:33 AM
Terrence Cody- 7 minutes
Tebow- 4.64
Every player from Iowa- 3.7

RealityCheck
02-06-2010, 10:37 AM
Terrence Cody- 7 minutes
to cross the 10 yd mark

Seriously, I'd say he does a 6.1 or so.

619
02-06-2010, 10:58 AM
Some of the faster times I expect:

Jacoby Ford - 4.26
CJ Spiller - 4.28
Jahvid Best - 4.32
Eric Berry - 4.33
Taylor Mays - 4.36

phlysac
02-06-2010, 11:06 AM
Can be merged with...

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37778&highlight=combine+estimates

Babylon
02-06-2010, 11:37 AM
Some of the faster times I expect:

Jacoby Ford - 4.26 4.31
CJ Spiller - 4.28 4.34
Jahvid Best - 4.32 4.4
Eric Berry - 4.33 4.45
Taylor Mays - 4.36 4.38 for Mays

Probably depends on the track, combine times lately seem a little slower (than pro days). Mine are in bold if anyone cares.

JHL6719
02-06-2010, 12:54 PM
I don't think anyone breaks the 4.3 barrier this year....although I'd say Jacoby Ford has the best chance...

I'm gonna go 4.32 for Ford...

Spiller 4.35..

Jahvid Best 4.38...

Mays 4.41..


I think Taylor Price, Riley Cooper, and Patrick Robinson are going to time really well...

In fact...I think Robinson could crack the 4.4 barrier....I'm gonna say 4.39 for Robinson....

Cooper 4.42...

Price 4.40...

LizardState
02-06-2010, 01:04 PM
Jacoby Ford - 4.26
CJ Spiller - 4.28

Isn't anything <4.3 on the periphery of world class speed? Borderline Usian Bolt territory?

Question: what about the shoes? Do they require them to wear fb shoes for the 40 like they do at various schools' Pro Days?

619
02-06-2010, 01:10 PM
Isn't anything <4.3 on the periphery of world class speed? Borderline Usian Bolt territory?

I wasn't conservative with those projections and they were probably more on the low end. I feel comfortable with Ford in that sub-4.3 category just in case you guys think I wasn't serious. Everyone else I'd probably estimate with a lower time on second thought. Ford will run a sub-4.3, guaranteed.

And Usain Bolt would run a sub-3.9 time on his worst of days, so I wouldn't consider it anywhere near his territory.

BaLLiN
02-06-2010, 01:14 PM
Isnt Trindon (probably misspelled) Holliday from LSU in this draft? if so, im guessing 4.27, hes got some wheels

terribletowel39
02-06-2010, 05:33 PM
Trindon Holliday and Jacoby Ford will have a side bet as to who runs the fastest time at the combine.

I say both of them run under 4.30. I'm going with Trindon Holliday having the best chance to break CJ's record. And yes, he could do it, his acceleration and top end speed is ridiculous.

DoWnThEfiElD
02-06-2010, 05:40 PM
I have a feeling Mays is going to disappoint with his 40 time.

RealityCheck
02-06-2010, 06:31 PM
Mays - 4.36
Holliday - 4.22
Ford - 4.24
Gilyard - 4.35

Freddie Barnes - Oh wait...

Ravensfan92
02-06-2010, 07:52 PM
What kind of 40 do you guys think Gilyard will run?

I think he could shock some people with his 40. I'm predicting he runs a 4.42. JMO.

Riley cooper IMO could run a sub 4.4 40. People underestimate this guy's speed.

RealityCheck
02-06-2010, 07:53 PM
Gilyard will run in the 4.3s, I'm saying.

Expect the same for McCluster.

Ravensfan92
02-06-2010, 07:53 PM
Mays - 4.36
Holliday - 4.22
Ford - 4.24
Gilyard - 4.35

Freddie Barnes - Oh wait...

NO way Gilyard runs a 4.3 40.


No way Holliday runs a faster time than Ford. They both ran track, and Ford beat him in the 100m NCAA championship

But i doubt either of them will run a 4.24.

asorrysight1
02-06-2010, 09:06 PM
And Usain Bolt would run a sub-3.9 time on his worst of days, so I wouldn't consider it anywhere near his territory.

That's debatable, considering he doesn't run the 40 yard dash, and that he isn't known for his fast starts. He doesn't pick up most his speed until around the 50 meter mark. That's when he puts those long strides of his to use.

FloridaFootball
02-06-2010, 09:36 PM
4.38 for Mays

Probably depends on the track, combine times lately seem a little slower (than pro days). Mine are in bold if anyone cares.

If Mays runs anything in the 4.3's Id be impressed.

Monomach
02-06-2010, 11:41 PM
NO way Gilyard runs a 4.3 40.


No way Holliday runs a faster time than Ford. They both ran track, and Ford beat him in the 100m NCAA championship

But i doubt either of them will run a 4.24.

100m performance is in no way indicative of 40-yard performance. In the 100, most runners don't hit top speed until long after the first 40 yards.

Some great 100m runners run crappy 40s.

Not that I'm defending those times he posted. They're jokes, I think.

TACKLE
02-07-2010, 01:56 AM
Trindon Holliday and Jacoby Ford will have a side bet as to who runs the fastest time at the combine.

I say both of them run under 4.30. I'm going with Trindon Holliday having the best chance to break CJ's record. And yes, he could do it, his acceleration and top end speed is ridiculous.

Did Holliday even get a combine invite?

wicket
02-07-2010, 06:24 AM
golden tate 4.43
kyle mccarthey 4.61
jimmy clausen 4.87
eric olsen 5.01
sam young 5.17

J-Mike88
02-07-2010, 08:02 AM
I'd be shocked to death if Mays is in the 4.3 anything.

Little Trindon Holliday should blaze in the 4.30 range. He'd look great in geen & gold returning for us next year.

terribletowel39
02-07-2010, 08:59 AM
Did Holliday even get a combine invite?

I thought I had heard from somewhere he had. But it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't. He got no East/West or Senior Bowl love.

GoRavens
02-07-2010, 09:30 AM
If golden runs a 4.4 I'll be so happy.
2 fastest times will be trindon holliday, and cj spiller

Babylon
02-07-2010, 12:16 PM
I'd be shocked to death if Mays is in the 4.3 anything.

Little Trindon Holliday should blaze in the 4.30 range. He'd look great in geen & gold returning for us next year.

Say what you want about Mays but he does have great straight line speed. watch video of him and he easily catches guys with supposed high 40 times.

BaLLiN
02-08-2010, 04:24 PM
every year people think that players will do waay better than what they do, this is not off of game speed which is deceiving because endurance is involved and a player may breeze by tired players and look like a 4.3 guy.

Alot of the guys being talked about, Spiller and Ford, are track guys, they are used to this preparation so it only makes sense for them to do well, especially with added time. Im not sure if Spiller will do any better than 4.3 because of a foot injury during the season. Ford should do well, and Holliday, who no one mentioned, will probably get a 4.25-4.27 i dont think CJ's record is getting broken despite the fact we legitimate track athletes here.

Another thing, Gilyard is not going to break or come near 4.3, his forte was getting in and out of cuts well, he is no where near a blazer, hes more of a 4.45 guy at the lowest.

BaLLiN
02-08-2010, 04:28 PM
Another thing, Speed does not equal good return ability, Holliday isnt awful but he'd get wrecked by most players in the nfl, hes just so small, much more of a track athlete than football player.

McCluster has speed, but hes more agile than straight line fast, i expect him to do really well in the 3 cone.

critesy
02-08-2010, 04:32 PM
ben tate - 4.44
walter mcfadden - 4.46
antonio coleman - 4.72

Day One Pick
02-09-2010, 01:07 PM
Just some random

Patrick Robinson 4.31

Jacoby Ford 4.33

C.J. Spiller 4.33

Jahvid Best 4.35

Trindon Holliday 4.36

Dexter McCluster 4.39

Taylor Price 4.41

Arrelious Benn 4.42

Joe Haden 4.43

Daryl Washington 4.44

Antonio Brown 4.44

Earl Thomas 4.46

Jordan Shipley 4.47

Mardy Gilyard 4.47

Dez Bryant 4.48

Taylor Mays 4.49

Golden Tate 4.49

steelernation77
02-09-2010, 01:17 PM
100m performance is in no way indicative of 40-yard performance. In the 100, most runners don't hit top speed until long after the first 40 yards.

Some great 100m runners run crappy 40s.

Not that I'm defending those times he posted. They're jokes, I think.

On Ford (2009):
NCAA Champion in the 60m (6.52); he actually had a school-record time of 6.51 in the prelims...undefeated in the 60m...won the 60m at the ACC meet...All-American for his 60m national title
http://clemsontigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ford_jacoby01.html

On Holliday:
"Also earned All-America honors for the 2009 indoor season while finishing as the NCAA runner-up in the 60-meter dash "
http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=233482

Holliday could still run a faster 40, but a 60m should be a better indicator of possible 40yrd times than a 100m.

Babylon
02-09-2010, 01:58 PM
Just some random

Patrick Robinson 4.31

Jacoby Ford 4.33

C.J. Spiller 4.33

Jahvid Best 4.35

Trindon Holliday 4.36

Dexter McCluster 4.39

Taylor Price 4.41

Arrelious Benn 4.42

Joe Haden 4.43

Daryl Washington 4.44

Antonio Brown 4.44

Earl Thomas 4.46

Jordan Shipley 4.47

Mardy Gilyard 4.47

Dez Bryant 4.48

Taylor Mays 4.49

Golden Tate 4.49

Some good ones there, i do think you're off by quite a bit on Patrick Robinson and Taylor Mays.

RealityCheck
02-09-2010, 03:39 PM
Just some random

Patrick Robinson 4.31

Jacoby Ford 4.33

C.J. Spiller 4.33

Jahvid Best 4.35

Trindon Holliday 4.36

Dexter McCluster 4.39

Taylor Price 4.41

Arrelious Benn 4.42

Joe Haden 4.43

Daryl Washington 4.44

Antonio Brown 4.44

Earl Thomas 4.46

Jordan Shipley 4.47

Mardy Gilyard 4.47

Dez Bryant 4.48

Taylor Mays 4.49

Golden Tate 4.49
There is no way in this world that Daryl Washington is faster than Mardy Gilyard. Or anyone being faster than Ford and Holliday.

nhlkdog411
02-09-2010, 04:50 PM
NO way Gilyard runs a 4.3 40.


No way Holliday runs a faster time than Ford. They both ran track, and Ford beat him in the 100m NCAA championship

But i doubt either of them will run a 4.24.

Probably should go ahead and look this stuff up since Holliday won the 100 and Ford won the 60.

Ravensfan92
02-09-2010, 04:55 PM
Probably should go ahead and look this stuff up since Holliday won the 100 and Ford won the 60.

I dont know what this is, but Ford beat him, so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9UNxPhDee4

Ravensfan92
02-09-2010, 04:56 PM
What do you guys think Damian Williams runs?

I'm thinking a 4.45, i think he's a lot faster than people think. BTW dont be suprised if a guy like Riley cooper breaks the 4.4 mark.

terribletowel39
02-09-2010, 05:06 PM
I dont know what this is, but Ford beat him, so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9UNxPhDee4

This youtube video was of the 60 yard like nhlk said. Ford beat Holliday in the 60. Holliday beat Ford in the 100.

BaLLiN
02-09-2010, 05:42 PM
Isnt Jahvid Best, or was he, a great track recruit?

MinerRod
02-10-2010, 12:40 AM
I'm Expect McCluster, Holiday, and Jahvid Best to all run close a 4.3

Day One Pick
02-10-2010, 07:49 AM
What do you guys think Damian Williams runs?

I'm thinking a 4.45, i think he's a lot faster than people think. BTW dont be suprised if a guy like Riley cooper breaks the 4.4 mark.

Damian Williams 4.51

BigJohn98
02-10-2010, 10:05 AM
Some good ones there, i do think you're off by quite a bit on Patrick Robinson and Taylor Mays.

Robinson ran a 4.25 in summer workouts his junior year.

He also ran down Noel Devine in the Gator Bowl when he was about 20 yards behind him. He will run a fast time. Guarantee it.

brasho
02-10-2010, 10:43 AM
Robinson ran a 4.25 in summer workouts his junior year.

He also ran down Noel Devine in the Gator Bowl when he was about 20 yards behind him. He will run a fast time. Guarantee it.

And Laverneus Coles ran a 4.1 according to Bobby Bowden and then couldn't get below a 4.4 at his pro day... and Warrick was a 4.4 guy but couldn't run better than 4.6. If I've learned one thing about 40 times, it's never believe what the schools tell you. Particularly if the schools are FSU, Ohiot St., or Virginia Tech.

brasho
02-10-2010, 10:50 AM
And Usain Bolt would run a sub-3.9 time on his worst of days, so I wouldn't consider it anywhere near his territory.

You really know nothing about track, do you?

Bolt can run a 3.9 40 if you averaged out the entire length of his `100 meter run. But his 40 time is likely no better than 4.3. 100 meter runners make their money AFTER the first 30 yards and running sub 4.0 40's not only do not happen, they are not possible. Carl Lewis ran a 40 for scouts back in the 80s and hit a 4.5, he was never a great starter, he had great finishing speed though. Tim Dwight was the Big 10's 3rd ranked 100M runner in college and then he went to the combine and ran a 4.61.

Thus there are huge differences between having a fast 40 and running a fast 100M. First of all, half of a great 40 time directly relates to the start. While in a 100M, having a great start is nice but not an absolute necessity. Most great 100M runners have build up speed and they just keep getting faster and faster all the way to 60M while most athletes, football or track are at fullspeed at 30 yards.

brasho
02-10-2010, 11:00 AM
Trindon Holliday and Jacoby Ford will have a side bet as to who runs the fastest time at the combine.

I say both of them run under 4.30. I'm going with Trindon Holliday having the best chance to break CJ's record. And yes, he could do it, his acceleration and top end speed is ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure Brandon Banks got an invite as well. Supposedly he can run sub 4.3.

Babylon
02-10-2010, 11:06 AM
Robinson ran a 4.25 in summer workouts his junior year.

He also ran down Noel Devine in the Gator Bowl when he was about 20 yards behind him. He will run a fast time. Guarantee it.

And yet he couldnt stay with Riley Cooper, What does he run then?

steelernation77
02-10-2010, 11:06 AM
You really know nothing about track, do you?

Bolt can run a 3.9 40 if you averaged out the entire length of his `100 meter run. But his 40 time is likely no better than 4.3. 100 meter runners make their money AFTER the first 30 yards and running sub 4.0 40's not only do not happen, they are not possible. Carl Lewis ran a 40 for scouts back in the 80s and hit a 4.5, he was never a great starter, he had great finishing speed though. Tim Dwight was the Big 10's 3rd ranked 100M runner in college and then he went to the combine and ran a 4.61.

Thus there are huge differences between having a fast 40 and running a fast 100M. First of all, half of a great 40 time directly relates to the start. While in a 100M, having a great start is nice but not an absolute necessity. Most great 100M runners have build up speed and they just keep getting faster and faster all the way to 60M while most athletes, football or track are at fullspeed at 30 yards.

Dwight was bothered by a groin injury. He definitely had faster than 4.6 speed.

brasho
02-10-2010, 11:10 AM
Dwight was bothered by a groin injury. He definitely had faster than 4.6 speed.

I didn't know that, but he was still healthy enough to run both times and certainly didn't blow anybody's doors off. The point being, he didn't run a great 40 but wsa certainly a very fast 100M runner and was extremely fast on the field.

brasho
02-10-2010, 11:42 AM
Robinson ran a 4.25 in summer workouts his junior year.

He also ran down Noel Devine in the Gator Bowl when he was about 20 yards behind him. He will run a fast time. Guarantee it.

Based on what you stated, if Robinson runs a legit 4.25 and Devine was a 4.5 (and we all know he is faster than that) guy, mathmatically speaking, Robinson runs a 1/4 of a second faster than Devine every 40 yards, which means Devine would have to be running 300 yards while Robision was 20 yards behind him at 320 yards to make up that 20 yard difference. Not that either runner could sprint 300+ yards or that it is even possible to run 300 yards inside of a stadium... the point is that maybe Devine had a 20 yard headstart but he certainly wasn't sprinting.. or perhaps it wasn't a 20 yard headstart, which leads me to my final point---IMPOSSIBLE!

To further illustrate the point of Johnson not being able to catch a fullspeed Devine that had a 20 yard headstart. Chris Johnson couldn't catch up to Terrence Cody if Cody were running a 40 against Johnson and Johnson started 20 yards behind him so I'm going to call BS on this one.

Shane P. Hallam
02-13-2010, 03:36 PM
I'm working on an article about 40 times and going to make some predictions. I don't want to predict EVERY prospect at the combine, but want to make sure I hit on the big names and who it will impact. Here is my list, let me know if you think I should add anyone:


Quarterback:
Sam Bradford
Jarrett Brown
Daryll Clark
Jimmy Clausen - *will not run the 40*
Armanti Edwards
Mike Kafka
Dan LeFevour
Colt McCoy
Tony Pike
Jevan Snead
Tim Tebow


Running Back:
Jahvid Best
LeGarrette Blount
Anthony Dixon
Jonathan Dwyer
Toby Gerhart
Montario Hardesty
Stafon Johnson
Ryan Matthews
Dexter McCluster
Joe McKnight
C.J. Spiller
Ben Tate
Keith Toston

Wide Receivers:
Danario Alexander
Arrelious Benn
Dezmon Briscoe
Dez Bryant
Riley Cooper
Eric Decker
Jacoby Ford
Mardy Gilyard
Brandon LaFell
Taylor Price
Andre Roberts
Jordan Shipley
Golden Tate
Demaryius Thomas
Blair White
Damian Williams
Jeremy Williams
Mike Williams

Tight Ends:
Nate Byham
Dorin Dickerson
Ed Dickson
Garrett Graham
Jimmy Graham
Jermaine Gresham
Aaron Hernandez
Michael Hoomanawanui
Anthony McCoy
Dennis Pitta
Andrew Quarles

Offensive Line:
Ciron Black
Charles Brown
Bryan Bulaga
Bruce Campbell
Selvish Capers
Anthony Davis
Vladimir Ducasse
Mike Iupati
Mike Johnson
Russell Okung
Maurkice Pouncey
Rodger Saffold
Jared Veldheer
Ed Wang
Trent Williams

Defensive Line:
Tyson Alualu
Alex Carrington
Terrence Cody
Jermaine Cunningham
Carlos Dunlap
Junior Galette
Thaddeus Gibson
Brandon Graham
Everson Griffen
Greg Hardy
Jerry Hughes
Arthur Jones
Sergio Kindle
Gerald McCoy
Koa Misi
Derrick Morgan
Jared Odrick
Jason Pierre-Paul
Brian Price
Ricky Sapp
George Selvie
Ndamukong Suh
Dan Williams
Linsey Witten
Corey Wootton
Jason Worilds

Linebacker:
Pat Angerer
Navorro Bowman
Donald Butler
Rennie Curran
Sean Lee
Rolando McClain
Roddrick Muckelroy
Eric Norwood
Brandon Spikes
Daryl Washington
Sean Weatherspoon

Secondary:
Nate Allen
Javier Arenas
Larry Asante
Eric Berry
Morgan Burnett
Chris Chancellor
Kam Chancellor
Perrish Cox
Dominique Franks
Brandon Ghee
Joe Haden
Kareem Jackson
Chad Jones
Reshad Jones
Myron Lewis
Trevard Lindley
Taylor Mays
Kyle McCarthy
Devin McCourty
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Patrick Robinson
Myron Rolle
Amari Spievey
Earl Thomas
Syd’Quan Thompson
Alterraun Verner
Donovan Warren
Kyle Wilson
Major Wright

DoWnThEfiElD
02-13-2010, 03:43 PM
Isnt Jahvid Best, or was he, a great track recruit?

Yes Best ran a 10.3 in the 100 in high school. He was one of the best in that nation that year.

TACKLE
02-13-2010, 03:47 PM
Who do you think runs a faster 40: Mays or Berry?

For me, I just got a feeling its going to be Mays.

Thumper
02-13-2010, 04:06 PM
Who do you think runs a faster 40: Mays or Berry?

For me, I just got a feeling its going to be Mays.

I think it will be close, both around the 4.45 range and Mays will just edge him out but Berry will completely blow Taylor Mays out of the water in the 3 cone drill and in the 20 yard shuttle.

Babylon
02-13-2010, 04:19 PM
Who do you think runs a faster 40: Mays or Berry?

For me, I just got a feeling its going to be Mays.

Put me down for:

Mays-4.38
Berry-4.49

JFLO
02-13-2010, 04:21 PM
Mays - 4.35
Berry - 4.43

Thumper
02-13-2010, 04:35 PM
I'm just going to go ahead and make a list of some guys who I think will run in the 4.3s

CJ Spiller
Jacoby Ford
Brandon Banks
David Gettis
Taylor Price
Joe Haden
Patrick Robinson
Earl Thomas

Babylon
02-13-2010, 04:51 PM
I'm just going to go ahead and make a list of some guys who I think will run in the 4.3s

CJ Spiller
Jacoby Ford
Brandon Banks
David Gettis
Taylor Price
Joe Haden
Patrick Robinson
Earl Thomas

You're extremely optimistic there especially when combine times tend to be conservative or where you talking pro days?

JFLO
02-13-2010, 04:54 PM
Spiller is bound to disappoint some people because he has the highest expectations of almost anyone in the combine.

Thumper
02-13-2010, 05:00 PM
You're extremely optimistic there especially when combine times tend to be conservative or where you talking pro days?

I'm optimistic because I think 8 guys will run 4.3s? That is fairly low IMO and all of them are fully capable of running a 4.3. 7 of them actually have ran 4.3s in the past, 4 of them were great track athletes and I was watching Earl Thomas highlights and he looked much faster than Eric Berry or Taylor Mays IMO and if he doesn't run a 4.3 he will run a low 4.4, he is the fastest safety.

Babylon
02-13-2010, 05:06 PM
I'm optimistic because I think 8 guys will run 4.3s? That is fairly low IMO and all of them are fully capable of running a 4.3. 7 of them actually have ran 4.3s in the past, 4 of them were great track athletes and I was watching Earl Thomas highlights and he looked much faster than Eric Berry or Taylor Mays IMO and if he doesn't run a 4.3 he will run a low 4.4, he is the fastest safety.

I would expect the track guys to be there but i dont see: Haden, Thomas or Robinson sniffing 4.3. I would throw in Mays and Riley Cooper as two guys i think could easily get under 4.4

Thumper
02-13-2010, 05:16 PM
I would expect the track guys to be there but i dont see: Haden, Thomas or Robinson sniffing 4.3. I would throw in Mays and Riley Cooper as two guys i think could easily get under 4.4

Personally I think Mays will run slower than a lot of people expect, he ran a 4.6 coming out of highschool at 218 pounds and now he is nearly 240 and he is supposed to run a 4.3? I am giving him the benefit of the doubt when I say I think he will run a 4.4. Riley Cooper I have no idea what he will run but judging by his size, I'd say the fastest he will run is low 4.4.

Joe Haden was known for his speed coming into college, running a 4.4 coming into Florida and he is a workout freak, I am expecting him to run fast. Someone else pointed out that Patrick Robinson ran a 4.25 during spring training and one scout (Daniel Jeremiah, former Ravens and Browns scout) said they expect him to run FAST in Indianapolis. Earl Thomas probably will run a 4.4 but I just felt like throwing a wildcard in there.

Babylon
02-13-2010, 05:24 PM
Personally I think Mays will run slower than a lot of people expect, he ran a 4.6 coming out of highschool at 218 pounds and now he is nearly 240 and he is supposed to run a 4.3? I am giving him the benefit of the doubt when I say I think he will run a 4.4. Riley Cooper I have no idea what he will run but judging by his size, I'd say the fastest he will run is low 4.4.

Joe Haden was known for his speed coming into college, running a 4.4 coming into Florida and he is a workout freak, I am expecting him to run fast. Someone else pointed out that Patrick Robinson ran a 4.25 during spring training and one scout (Daniel Jeremiah, former Ravens and Browns scout) said they expect him to run FAST in Indianapolis. Earl Thomas probably will run a 4.4 but I just felt like throwing a wildcard in there.

Mays was running around a 10.5 100 here in Seattle in highschool so i'm not sure what that translates to but it is pretty quick. I think just watching the ground he can cover tells you all you need to know about his speed.

thetedginnshow
02-13-2010, 05:59 PM
Bay Bay - 4.58
Brandon Graham - 4.72
Burnett - 4.46
Norwood - 4.75
Damian Williams - 4.49
Shipley - 4.42
McCluster - 4.41
Spievey - 4.56

Thumper
02-13-2010, 07:25 PM
Here are some that I personally don't believe will happen but the players are saying they ran these times.

Ryan Matthews says he ran a 4.35 recently and is consistently running in the high 4.3s
Brandon Ghee claims to have run a 4.31 40 yard dash, I think that is EXTREMELY far fetched, that is the major question about him, does he have the deep speed to be a great corner?
Taylor Price claims he ran a 4.31 as well, I think he runs a tad bit slower probably around 4.36

Bruce Campbell claims to run a 4.75 which is amazing considering he is 6'8" and about 310 pounds.

Jason Paul-Pierre claims he can run the 40 in 4.4 seconds
Jason Worilds has been timed at 4.49 in recent years

(I believe this one) Patrick Robinson ran a 4.45 at a Nike camp heading into his freshman year at Florida St.

batsandgats
02-13-2010, 07:55 PM
And yet he couldnt stay with Riley Cooper, What does he run then?

Cooper is a 4.3 guy

superman8456
02-13-2010, 10:14 PM
Is Brandon James gonna run?

SKim172
02-13-2010, 10:44 PM
I think people are being way too optimistic about these forty times. Look, we all know the forty is more-or-less a guideline rather than law and only idiots like Al Davis take it as a hard-and-fast rule to judge a prospect's speed. We're talking tenths and hundredths of a second here. A guy who's 4.5 isn't noticeably slower than a guy who's 4.4 without a stopwatch. If a guy's slightly tired, if he gets a bit of a misstep along the way, if he runs two inches towards the left rather than straight on, this could all affect the time. Generally, if a guy runs below a 4.5, you can say he's pretty fast.

I've also heard from Combine scouts that you shouldn't trust the official forty times released on NFLN. The general sentiment is that the Network gives a very generous time for the prospects. Every scout has their own timer and the general consensus seems to be that the real forties are up to a tenth more than what's shown on TV.

Anyway, back on-topic, I'd say Devin McCourty out of Rutgers has a good shot at breaking the 4.4 barrier. His brother ran a 4.35 at the Pro Day last year. Of course, it was the pro day and Devin isn't Jason. But they are twins and based on gameplay, I'd say Devin is actually a bit faster than Jason (if that makes sense).

BTW, does anyone else have reservations about Devin based on Jason McCourty's play last season?

antwanh5
02-16-2010, 06:57 PM
Personally I think Mays will run slower than a lot of people expect, he ran a 4.6 coming out of highschool at 218 pounds and now he is nearly 240 and he is supposed to run a 4.3? I am giving him the benefit of the doubt when I say I think he will run a 4.4. Riley Cooper I have no idea what he will run but judging by his size, I'd say the fastest he will run is low 4.4.

Joe Haden was known for his speed coming into college, running a 4.4 coming into Florida and he is a workout freak, I am expecting him to run fast. Someone else pointed out that Patrick Robinson ran a 4.25 during spring training and one scout (Daniel Jeremiah, former Ravens and Browns scout) said they expect him to run FAST in Indianapolis. Earl Thomas probably will run a 4.4 but I just felt like throwing a wildcard in there.

2 things, Taylor Mays was a high school sprinting champion as a sophomore and junior and didnt even run his senior year but the 4.6 your referring to was extremely fast considering Mays pulled a hamstring half way through the race.....He was one of the fastest high school athletes in the Nation

Also Earl Thomas LOOKS WAY faster than he is. He has short legs so it looks like he is running much faster than he really is.

I agree on Robinson. One of the fastest guys in the draft be far. He should light up combine. incredible footwork and speed.

antwanh5
02-16-2010, 07:14 PM
Robinson ran a 4.25 in summer workouts his junior year.

He also ran down Noel Devine in the Gator Bowl when he was about 20 yards behind him. He will run a fast time. Guarantee it.

I agree, I feel Robinson is the fastest corner in the draft. While i dont think he will crack 4.2 he still will have a low 4.3.

also, yes he caught Devine but he was 7-8 yards behind him and running down Devine is special. Devine gets caught a lot. he's so short he takes tiny steps and eats up no ground. He probably runs a 4.5

P-L
02-26-2010, 05:09 PM
Brandon Graham has been consistently running between a 4.56-4.60 while training. Those numbers may be a tad inflated, but I expect a sub-4.70 40 this week.

BaLLiN
02-27-2010, 06:31 PM
Isnt Trindon (probably misspelled) Holliday from LSU in this draft? if so, im guessing 4.27, hes got some wheels

GOD DAMN IT!!! i got the unofficial :/

Addict
02-27-2010, 06:33 PM
GOD DAMN IT!!! i got the unofficial :/

I believe his official time is 4.34

BaLLiN
02-27-2010, 06:36 PM
I believe his official time is 4.34

yeah i know, i was so close, it said he unofficially got 4.27

Complex
02-27-2010, 07:19 PM
Cooper is a 4.3 guy

I doubt it hes not faster then Percy, I say 4.45 at best.

mellojello
02-27-2010, 09:00 PM
Yes Best ran a 10.3 in the 100 in high school. He was one of the best in that nation that year.Desean Jackson was supposedly faster than Jahvid Best in the 40 (based on articles I read about team running drills, which they were the two fastest guys on the team). Since Desean ran a 4.35 at the combine, I'm guessing that Best is gonig to be closer to the 4.40 mark. However, I will say, it's not their speed that is so impressive (many NFL guys can run 4.4 or faster), it is the combination of the speed/footwork/vision.

619
02-28-2010, 09:51 AM
I feel comfortable with Ford in that sub-4.3 category just in case you guys think I wasn't serious. Ford will run a sub-4.3, guaranteed.

Isn't anything <4.3 on the periphery of world class speed?

Why was it so hard to believe??? Ford does have world-class speed, at least in football terms.

Jimmy
02-28-2010, 10:03 AM
what do you guys think tebow will run?

me: 4.67

Shane P. Hallam
02-28-2010, 10:15 AM
what do you guys think tebow will run?

me: 4.67

He won't run I don't think.

619
02-28-2010, 10:18 AM
He won't run I don't think.

The next group of QBs are about to run. He is there.

ALP1987
02-28-2010, 10:46 AM
4.70 and 4.72 for Tebow. That's not bad for a power runner.

Geason Noceur
02-28-2010, 11:25 AM
Did Bradford run the 40?

Razor
02-28-2010, 11:28 AM
CJ Spiller will run a 4.26.

619
02-28-2010, 11:37 AM
Some of the faster times I expect:

Jacoby Ford - 4.26
CJ Spiller - 4.28

Cmon CJ, make me look good. :D

Day One Pick
02-28-2010, 03:00 PM
Just some random

Patrick Robinson 4.31

Jacoby Ford 4.33

C.J. Spiller 4.33

Jahvid Best 4.35

Trindon Holliday 4.36

Dexter McCluster 4.39

Taylor Price 4.41

Arrelious Benn 4.42

Joe Haden 4.43

Daryl Washington 4.44

Antonio Brown 4.44

Earl Thomas 4.46

Jordan Shipley 4.47

Mardy Gilyard 4.47

Dez Bryant 4.48

Taylor Mays 4.49

Golden Tate 4.49

I nailed Jahvid Best and Taylor Price's times. Pretty close on Holliday.