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raiderchampion3
02-15-2010, 08:39 PM
If you look at all the teams in the division the Chargers are the class but I personally believe the Raiders are not that far off. The Raiders need a QB and they need to fix the trenches and they will in fact overtake the Chargers and the Broncos and Chiefs have a long ways to go because they have needs across the board? what do you guys think?

vikes_28
02-15-2010, 08:45 PM
i'm not sure this is the right place for this thread. But I'd still give it to the Chargers.

thenewfeature06
02-15-2010, 08:53 PM
chargers are def the favorites even w.o lt, darkhorse is oakland :D

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
02-15-2010, 08:58 PM
Funny, because the Broncos with trench help and a new QB>>>>>>>>>>the Raiders with same. Broncos don't even need a new QB that much. Raiders always seem to be the dark horse and always come up short. Raiders might actually do it this year, but they're far more likely to take their usual place right behind San Diego and Denver.

Job
02-15-2010, 09:12 PM
Maybe, just maybe we should wait after the draft and free agency. I don't know.

Saints-Tigers
02-15-2010, 09:13 PM
How many teams wouldn't be a favorite for top of the division if you improve them in the trenches and at QB?

TitanHope
02-15-2010, 09:15 PM
It's undoubtedly the Chargers, but I do think the other 3 teams can improve and make the division more competitive than it was last year.

keylime_5
02-15-2010, 09:23 PM
Chargers with Phiip Rivers and all that talent he has to throw to. If Denver plays like they did in the first half of 2009 then they can definitely win it. Chiefs need to find some kind of run defense and need to see Cassel not suck before they can start thinking about winning division titles again.

tjsunstein
02-15-2010, 09:32 PM
How many teams wouldn't be a favorite for top of the division if you improve them in the trenches and at QB?

The Raiders come to mind.

1. Chargers (11-5)
2. Chiefs (8-8)
3. Broncos (7-9)
4. Raiders (6-10)

I expect it to be pretty competitive in 2010 between within the division.

raiderchampion3
02-15-2010, 09:38 PM
You think the Raiders are the worst in the division I don' think so?

Stash
02-15-2010, 10:23 PM
At this point it would be the Chargers at the top and Broncos 2nd with the Raiders and Chiefs battling for 3rd. But that's all pretty obvious because the season just ended and there haven't been many major changes. Once the draft and FA are over we'll have a better idea of who improved the most. Unfortunately for me and other Raider fans we have Al Davis making our decisions so I'm not all that confident.

Bengalsrocket
02-15-2010, 10:36 PM
If we're actually going to keep this topic up, I'm going to go ahead and say I also think the Raiders are worst in the division.

They have a good amount of talent, but their leadership is awful. That starts with the owner and trickles all the way down to the coaches and staff. It's possible they don't even have a leader amongst the players on the field.

You could have the best team ever but if you don't guide them in the right direction then it doesn't matter.

frubulubu
02-15-2010, 10:41 PM
The Raiders come to mind.

1. Chargers (11-5)
2. Chiefs (8-8)
3. Broncos (7-9)
4. Raiders (6-10)

I expect it to be pretty competitive in 2010 between within the division.

Chiefs 8-8? C'mon man!

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
02-15-2010, 10:53 PM
I see the Chiefs as a 6 win team next year, TBH. To me, they're still one more year away from contention, provided they continue to move in the right direction. They could still finish 2nd, but that would require a godawful Broncos season which will hopefully end with the firing of McDaniels.

Raiders are tough to point out, they could conceivably get 8 wins, but they don't have the foundation to turn into a yearly contender. The Chiefs took their lumps for a few years and are almost ready to make a move. Raiders have been taking their lumps for longer but can't decide if they're fielding a contending team or trying to rebuild.

vidae
02-16-2010, 12:51 AM
It all depends on Free Agency and the draft. I'm a Chiefs fan, obviously, and I would be pretty happy with 6 wins. We ended the season strong but we still have a lot of work to do.

As far as the Raiders go, everyone is saying how they're about to turn a corner year in and year out and it never happens, and to be quite honest, I don't see it happening as long as Al Davis is alive.

raiderchampion3
02-16-2010, 01:12 AM
People should stop badgering Mr. Davis as he is a owner of three super bowl rings how many owners can say that? The last time I checked Mr. Davis does not want to lose and the players play on the field and he is doing his best putting a team that has a lot of the pieces in place and that should win a lot more games.

Job
02-16-2010, 01:30 AM
People should stop badgering Mr. Davis as he is a owner of three super bowl rings how many owners can say that? The last time I checked Mr. Davis does not want to lose and the players play on the field and he is doing his best putting a team that has a lot of the pieces in place and that should win a lot more games.

My grandmother was quite a resourceful woman not so long ago, yet I wouldn't trust her to get my groceries nowadays.

vidae
02-16-2010, 01:32 AM
Every year the Raiders should "win more games" but horrible drafts and terrible decisions at the top have led to seven straight losing seasons.

There is a reason that a joke is cracked every time someone runs a fast 40. Al Davis should not be running the Raiders. He doesn't understand what it takes to win in the NFL today.

CC.SD
02-16-2010, 02:45 AM
Hm what a homer thread. I will go with whoever Job's grandmother picks.

AntoinCD
02-16-2010, 03:23 AM
Unless something drastic changes then the Chargers are still the number one team in the division. It will be interesting to see how Denver do without Mike Nolan coaching the defense and the whole Brandon Marshall thing needs watching. The Chiefs are slowly but surely building talent but are still a year or two away.

Ah... The Raiders. Providing entertainment in the offseason for all NFL fans. Why IMO they won't win the AFC West.

Tom Cable has made it perfectly clear that with even half decent QB play they would have made the playoffs, but do you think Al Davis will let him sit Jamarcus Russell next year in favour of anyone? As long as Jamarcus Russel is playing QB and Al Davis is drafting players like DHB then they simply won't contend.

Who are their leaders on offense? Russell???

Who are their leaders on defense? Seymour, who went from a model citizen playing at an all pro level in NE to running his mouth and being very average for Oakland? Plus it's not a given he is resigned.

The Raiders simply have a lack of leadership and proven winners to make any sort of decent run.

bearsfan_51
02-16-2010, 04:44 AM
If you look at all the teams in the division the Chargers are the class but I personally believe the Raiders are not that far off. The Raiders need a QB and they need to fix the trenches and they will in fact overtake the Chargers and the Broncos and Chiefs have a long ways to go because they have needs across the board? what do you guys think?
I think you should write for the New Yorker.

raiderchampion3
02-16-2010, 11:32 AM
How about all the great picks is that Mr. Davis fault as well? How about Asomougha, Howard, Bush, Miller, Henderson and I could go on and on.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
02-16-2010, 12:01 PM
How about all the great picks is that Mr. Davis fault as well? How about Asomougha, Howard, Bush, Miller, Henderson and I could go on and on.

Comparing the good things Davis has done since the last Raiders SB appearance to the bad things he's done is comparing a pebble to a mountain, and edging me ever closer to invoking Godwin's law.

bearsfan_51
02-16-2010, 12:13 PM
I could go on and on.
Oh please do...

FlyingElvis
02-16-2010, 12:47 PM
Oh please do...

I second this.

DoughBoy
02-17-2010, 06:14 PM
I second this.

I thirded.

Splat
02-17-2010, 06:15 PM
SD and it ain't that close.

Raidernexx
02-27-2010, 06:42 PM
Comin' from this Raider fan:

1.) San Diego (I think LT was weighing them down the last two seasons and Darren Sproles should have been starting since mid-season.)

2.) Denver - They own the Raiders and the Chiefs lately in a boat race.
(It doesn't matter who's at QB or who's at Running back...Their Defense is extremely aggressive and unpredictable.)

3 or 4 Who Cares!?! They aren't going to be in contention!)
Kansas City or Oakland - Oakland would have the slight edge if they started the season with Gradkowski at Quarterback. The offense responds to him and Russell is just a drain on the entire team. (It pains me to say that because I wanted us to draft him.)

vidae
02-27-2010, 06:47 PM
The AFC West is going to be pretty competitive in a year or two I think.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
02-27-2010, 08:53 PM
Man, I miss the days in the early-middle part of the decade when this whole division was good. We've had 3 teams over .500 in one year, each team in the division has earned a first round bye last decade... no other division can say that. What happened :(

vidae
03-04-2010, 02:05 AM
Man, I miss the days in the early-middle part of the decade when this whole division was good. We've had 3 teams over .500 in one year, each team in the division has earned a first round bye last decade... no other division can say that. What happened :(

Carl Peterson and Josh McDaniels most recently. And the Raiders are just the Raiders.

Timbathia
03-04-2010, 09:34 PM
Carl Peterson and Josh McDaniels most recently. And the Raiders are just the Raiders.

Nah, it was before Josh. Davis and Shanahan both lost their minds at some point a few years ago and started thinking they were demi-gods. Somehow their brain matter was tied to the fat cells in their faces, and when that drained away they went crazy.

CC.SD
03-15-2010, 02:13 PM
Nah, it was before Josh. Davis and Shanahan both lost their minds at some point a few years ago and started thinking they were demi-gods. Somehow their brain matter was tied to the fat cells in their faces, and when that drained away they went crazy.

I kind of love this theory.

Brothgar
08-06-2010, 10:33 PM
I actually have the Raiders in the division. They have made a lot of the right moves and the chargers are falling apart a bit AJ Smith isn't helping either. I'm breaking down the AFC West tomorrow on my show @ 11AM EST http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sportcitychefs/2010/08/07/the-gridiron-chefs

T-RICH49
09-04-2010, 06:51 PM
I thirded.

is thirded a word?

Timbathia
09-06-2010, 04:23 AM
I actually have the Raiders in the division. They have made a lot of the right moves and the chargers are falling apart a bit AJ Smith isn't helping either. I'm breaking down the AFC West tomorrow on my show @ 11AM EST http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sportcitychefs/2010/08/07/the-gridiron-chefs

Having one good draft doesnt exactly make up for years of making poor moves. I know everyone loves to jump on the sexy picks, but I think the Raiders still have a bit to go. They will be in a close battle for second, but I cant imagine they will win 9+ games.

vidae
09-06-2010, 04:25 AM
The Raiders are picked to win almost every. single. year. *yawn*

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-06-2010, 06:35 AM
The Raiders are picked to win almost every. single. year. *yawn*

This. It's really getting old now.

LizardState
09-06-2010, 01:19 PM
All my Raider Nation neighbors are gaga over their team this yr b/c they had a sensible draft & have a talent base that looks good on ppr.

But this is the Raiders we're talking, always the QB questions that are updated now (with the injury concerns about Campbell) & the OL front 5 questions. Latest word from here is that Cable has Mario Henderson on notice about his job if he doesnt improve & McFadden is in a make or break yr. too.

I really hope McClain has a Patrick Willislike rookie yr. & their defense tears the division a new one, but there are still way too many Ifs about this team.

Speaking of Ifs, what if Marcus McNeill holds out? That could leave Rivers vulnerable for the Bolts. He's counting on rookie Ryan Mathews to keep pass rushes honest, he's good but he's still a rookie. Norvell has made personnel decisions that came back to bite him before, I have to wonder about letting Cromartie & Thompson go & trying to squeeze another yr. out of Merriman whose demise they keep predicting but he always manages to float back up into their starting lineup. He's a shadow of his former self but he's a survivor.

Timbathia
09-06-2010, 04:35 PM
All my Raider Nation neighbors are gaga over their team this yr b/c they had a sensible draft & have a talent base that looks good on ppr.

But this is the Raiders we're talking, always the QB questions that are updated now (with the injury concerns about Campbell) & the OL front 5 questions. Latest word from here is that Cable has Mario Henderson on notice about his job if he doesnt improve & McFadden is in a make or break yr. too.

I really hope McClain has a Patrick Willislike rookie yr. & their defense tears the division a new one, but there are still way too many Ifs about this team.

Speaking of Ifs, what if Marcus McNeill holds out? That could leave Rivers vulnerable for the Bolts. He's counting on rookie Ryan Mathews to keep pass rushes honest, he's good but he's still a rookie. Norvell has made personnel decisions that came back to bite him before, I have to wonder about letting Cromartie & Thompson go & trying to squeeze another yr. out of Merriman whose demise they keep predicting but he always manages to float back up into their starting lineup. He's a shadow of his former self but he's a survivor.

The Chargers are vulnerable - just not sure anyone else is good enough to take advantage. With the season about to start I will go out on a limb and predict that all four teams in the division go 8-8. The NFL tiebreakers cant separate them, so the 4 QBs have a foosball tourney to decide the division winner.

Timbathia
09-20-2010, 01:31 AM
Anyone changing their mind after 2 games??????????

I stand by my prediction that ALL teams go 8-8.