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ChefMike
02-17-2010, 11:20 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4921333

Brothgar
02-17-2010, 11:25 AM
This changes alot of mocks maybe. But they still need another wide out.

ChefMike
02-17-2010, 11:26 AM
This will change mock drafts but is Stallworth really a #1 option? or a GREAT #2 option. If we were now able to somehow get a TO or a Marshall we would have to be an odds on favorite to win the AFC.

FlyingElvis
02-17-2010, 11:29 AM
Interesting. Though I'm not sure it will change mocks much considering Dante is older, has been out of the game, and can't be considered a #1 anyway. Maybe if he lights it up once he's signed and in OTA/camp, etc. it could change mocks.

ChefMike
02-17-2010, 11:37 AM
He wont change the need for a #1 WR. He will be a great #2 for us. We will still need to get a Boldin or a Marshall or hope that a rookie can come in and be a front line WR and not a project. Mason needs to be resigned as does Washington. I would let Clayton and Williams walk and take the compensation next year for them.

banetzdererste
02-17-2010, 11:40 AM
Nice!

Hope he develop like Benson did with the bengals

Brothgar
02-17-2010, 11:41 AM
This will change mock drafts but is Stallworth really a #1 option? or a GREAT #2 option. If we were now able to somehow get a TO or a Marshall we would have to be an odds on favorite to win the AFC.

How funny would that be if TO ended up in Baltimore.

ChefMike
02-17-2010, 11:45 AM
How funny would that be if TO ended up in Baltimore.

Well this proves we aren't scared to take a risk...

Brothgar
02-17-2010, 11:47 AM
Well this proves we aren't scared to take a risk...

I'm not saying that I'm just saying that after he practically forced his way away from Baltimore (refused to sign IIRC) to go to the Eagles (and gave up a SB ring in the process maybe) for him to end up there would be funny as hell.

ChefMike
02-17-2010, 11:54 AM
I'm not saying that I'm just saying that after he practically forced his way away from Baltimore (refused to sign IIRC) to go to the Eagles (and gave up a SB ring in the process maybe) for him to end up there would be funny as hell.

I agree 100% That is a long shot but its a possibility

brat316
02-17-2010, 12:06 PM
Stallworth i think will get cut after training camp, when you have to trim down rosters. Before he wasn't a good number 1 either, and now i don't think he can be effective as a number 2. Through out the years, he would just catch 1 or 2 deep balls a game. Slot WR for Stallworth

I still think Baltimore should go after a WR either trade/FA or draft. If you plan on spending it on a 1st on WR, why not target Marshall, even though i would hate that.

Brothgar
02-17-2010, 12:08 PM
Stallworth i think will get cut after training camp, when you have to trim down rosters. Before he wasn't a good number 1 either, and now i don't think he can be effective as a number 2. Through out the years, he would just catch 1 or 2 deep balls a game. Slot WR for Stallworth

I still think Baltimore should go after a WR either trade/FA or draft. If you plan on spending it on a 1st on WR, why not target Marshall, even though i would hate that.

I doubt it. He is playing for less money than some kickers in the league.

ChefMike
02-17-2010, 12:09 PM
I think Stallworth will easily be able to make the roster and contribute. He can be a great #2 for us. I do agree with we should go after Marshall or Boldin as they would make our receiving core dangerous and making our running game that much stronger.

coordinator0
02-17-2010, 12:11 PM
Doesn't change much in the sense that we still need a receiver to play on the outside, but i like the signing nonetheless. He'll probably be our slot receiver if he makes the team, and even with a year away from football he's probably better at getting separation than any of our other receivers.

EdReedUnstoppable
02-17-2010, 12:48 PM
Awful move, and if Ozzie uses this as an excuse not to go after a young WR such as Demaryius Thomas, or Arrelious Benn in the draft then Ozzie is dumber than I already think he is.

Absolutely sickening that Stallworth will get the honor of putting on a Ravens jersey, in fact I think Im gonna go vomit right now.

BmoreBlackByrdz
02-17-2010, 01:55 PM
Awful move, and if Ozzie uses this as an excuse not to go after a young WR such as Demaryius Thomas, or Arrelious Benn in the draft then Ozzie is dumber than I already think he is.

Absolutely sickening that Stallworth will get the honor of putting on a Ravens jersey, in fact I think Im gonna go vomit right now.

what's wrong with it? It's a low risk, medium reward kinda deal. They signed him dirt cheap and he will be in their off season workout program. I don't see this as a bad move, I see it as a cheap gamble.

Well worth it.

Ravens1991
02-17-2010, 02:01 PM
I dont see this being anything big. But does it mean the end of Washington or Clayton in Baltimore? It wont help that much if we really want to see results we got to get a big name elite WR.

Hines
02-17-2010, 02:29 PM
Is he going to run over an innocent man while driving drunk and high again in Baltimore? Ok, ok, low blow, but I really don't think he'd make much of an impact. He hasn't developed to what people thought he would be, he's very injury prone, and he's been out of the game for a year. It will be interesting to see how well he does.

I still think he's a **** human being and shouldn't be allowed to play in the NFl again.

D-Unit
02-17-2010, 02:30 PM
I'm happy because it means you guys will pass on Golden Tate now. Yay! :D

coordinator0
02-17-2010, 02:34 PM
I'm happy because it means you guys will pass on Golden Tate now. Yay! :D

I would be happy if that happens as well. Don't think it changes any draft plans though.

Chucky
02-17-2010, 02:35 PM
Now they just need to sign Leonard Little. That would be a killer lineup along with Ray Lewis

ccB
02-17-2010, 02:38 PM
I would be happy if that happens as well. Don't think it changes any draft plans though.

I was just about to post the same thing, out of all the WR's I think Tate is the one I want the least. If this stopped us from taking Benn though, someone (probably Stallworth) would get a karate chop to the throat.


I don't hate this move as long as he's nothing more than a #3 WR.

D-Unit
02-17-2010, 03:04 PM
I was just about to post the same thing, out of all the WR's I think Tate is the one I want the least. If this stopped us from taking Benn though, someone (probably Stallworth) would get a karate chop to the throat.


I don't hate this move as long as he's nothing more than a #3 WR.
I never understood why some Ravens fans liked Tate. He's too similar to what you already got in Clayton. You need something different. Benn does make much more sense.

GoRavens
02-17-2010, 05:44 PM
Now they just need to sign Leonard Little. That would be a killer lineup along with Ray Lewis

not at all
he doesn't fit

America
02-17-2010, 05:46 PM
He came very cheap so I don't have a problem with the move. He's got talent, and can be a mismatch with his speed. I don't think he's a character problem either, I think he'll mesh well with the guys in the locker room and will do good in the community. Thousands of people drive drunk every day and while its incredibly dangerous and stupid, it doesn't make you a **** human being as HinesWardJr said, but just a stupid and dangerous person. He's was remorseful and cooperative throughout the whole process and I have no issue giving him a second chance. I think he'll do whatever he can to leave a positive mark on the community.

Back to on the field, I think he can succeed as a slot receiver, especially on deep routes matched up against a safety. Yes DWill can also do this and he's good but if Harbaugh won't play him cause he's in the doghouse, someone needs to be able to run these routes. I think this signing doesn't pull us away from drafting a WR in the first at all; it might even point to us taking one as Ozzie is identifying the need for a wideout. Benn fits what we need much more than Tate does and should be in our range. If Mason comes back and Clayton and Washington go, that leaves us with Mason/Benn/Stallworth/Dwill which in my opinion would be an upgrade over last years and it wouldn't be costly, like signing Boldin or Marshall, which I don't even think we can do under this years CBA or whatever because we'd need to lose somebody of that value.

Babylon
02-17-2010, 05:52 PM
Now they just need to sign Leonard Little. That would be a killer lineup along with Ray Lewis

On a somewhate related topic i'm surprised they didnt sign Matt Jones who brings more to the table than Stallworth (in a good way).

zachsaints52
02-17-2010, 05:54 PM
Stallworth i think will get cut after training camp, when you have to trim down rosters. Before he wasn't a good number 1 either, and now i don't think he can be effective as a number 2. Through out the years, he would just catch 1 or 2 deep balls a game. Slot WR for Stallworth


Stallworth was never a #1 guy, but always #2 and #3 in other places. I think this signing and drafting a rooking in the first would be a really good start to helping out your WR corps tho.

niel89
02-18-2010, 05:35 AM
I really like the signing. Very low risk with the possibility to add a pretty decent pass catcher. There is a very good chance that he doesn't make it past training camp, but he could be a good player for us. I'm glad he came to a stable franchise if he really wants to turn his life around.

GoRavens
02-18-2010, 07:55 AM
Not a bad signing by any means... Stallworth is a consistent threat, with awesome speed which is exactly what Flacco needs. This signing changes how Baltimore will target receivers in the draft IMO. All Flacco needs now is a big, strong, animal to handle short competitions. Like Golden Tate, but as much as I'd still love Golden in Baltimore, Arrelious Benn might be the likely selection in round 1.

thenewfeature06
02-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Baltimore have used 4 of there last 5 first round picks on offense players I am pretty sure, certainly they could select a wr but just an interesting stat to hear.

Ravens1991
02-18-2010, 02:37 PM
I still see that we add a WR somehow, whether its a 1st round pick or a trade. Personally my ideal situation would be trade the 1st for marshall, re-sign Mason.

Marshall will atract many double teams, this will leave Mason 1 on 1 w/ a #2 CB, that is a great match up. Have Stallworth and Washington as our #3 and #4. Have Marcus Smith as our #5. If we dont re-sign Washington we can bump up Eron Riley from the PS.

thenewfeature06
02-18-2010, 03:02 PM
What bout D will

Ravens1991
02-18-2010, 05:41 PM
The coaching staff said Dwill didnt do enough to earn playing time or something like that. I doubt he is back

GoRavens
02-18-2010, 06:27 PM
1st round pick for Brandon Marshall would be awesome, fascinating, incredible, marvelous, shocking, stunning, surprising, unbelievable, wonderful

BmoreBlackByrdz
02-18-2010, 06:47 PM
I could definitely see the Ravens offering a 1st, and only a 1st, but I think the Bronco's want more for him. Probably a 3rd or 4th as well.

And why blame em? He's arguably the best young WR in the league.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
02-19-2010, 06:55 AM
I still see that we add a WR somehow, whether its a 1st round pick or a trade. Personally my ideal situation would be trade the 1st for marshall, re-sign Mason.

Marshall will atract many double teams, this will leave Mason 1 on 1 w/ a #2 CB, that is a great match up. Have Stallworth and Washington as our #3 and #4. Have Marcus Smith as our #5. If we dont re-sign Washington we can bump up Eron Riley from the PS.

This!!!! Marshall/Mason/Washington/Stallworth/Smith I would be cool with.

Brothgar
02-19-2010, 07:10 AM
Now they just need to sign Leonard Little. That would be a killer lineup along with Ray Lewis

http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/see-what-you-did-there.jpg

ChefMike
02-22-2010, 07:51 AM
Here might be a cheaper and effective way to bring in a TOP WR and still allow us to draft a WR at #1.

What if we traded our #3 or #2 for Randy Moss in NE? He is in the last year of his contract (so he will have a huge year) he has great hands and can go deep better then most in the NFL. Then we can draft a WR at #1 let him mature under Moss and Mason for a season.

Thoughts???

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
02-22-2010, 10:20 AM
Here might be a cheaper and effective way to bring in a TOP WR and still allow us to draft a WR at #1.

What if we traded our #3 or #2 for Randy Moss in NE? He is in the last year of his contract (so he will have a huge year) he has great hands and can go deep better then most in the NFL. Then we can draft a WR at #1 let him mature under Moss and Mason for a season.

Thoughts???

I would cream myself if that happened but it won't. Patriots want him for the last year.

FlyingElvis
02-22-2010, 11:08 AM
Yeah, um, no. Randy will likely be a FA next year (if there is one) but there's no way he's leaving NE early. With Welker a question mark and Tate/Aiken/Edelman the only other viable WRs on the roster, there's no way in hell Randy is going anywhere this season. Not for a 2nd or 3rd, anyway.

trkaline
02-22-2010, 11:26 AM
Yeah if we were ever to get Randy Moss...it will be when he is washed up and should have retired the year prior...

ChefMike
02-22-2010, 11:59 AM
Don't be so sure... consensus says this is a deep draft and the Pats love lots of picks. Look at what they did last year with Seymour, he was a Pro Bowler and in the last year of his contract just like Moss is. They weren't deep on Defense and still let him go.

FlyingElvis
02-22-2010, 12:11 PM
Seymour was for a 1st, though. The question below is based on a 2nd or 3rd. Plus, it's the Raiders. There's a reasonable chance that pick is a top 10, whereas the Ravens are a contender every year. Seymour for a top 10 (ish) is a good value; Moss for a 20-30 (ish) is not.

. . . there's no way in hell Randy is going anywhere this season. Not for a 2nd or 3rd, anyway.

Hines
02-22-2010, 03:13 PM
I don't think Moss would be down for only getting a few targets while Rice, McGahee, and McClain run up and down the field.

ChefMike
02-23-2010, 09:50 AM
Seymour is younger and not on the downside of his career like Moss. Plus we are slowly changing to a passing team with Flacco at the helm. Yes Rice opens up Passing lanes but at the same time if we have a threat like moss and stallworth and mason that could make Rice a 1500 yd back.

GoRavens
02-23-2010, 06:13 PM
Stallworth ran a 4.40 flat ON GRASS for his Ravens tryout.. That's about a 4.35 on turf. Stallworth is super fast, and is a proven playmaker. At this point it's
1WR- Mason
2WR- Stallworth
3WR- Clayton
4WR- Washington
Baltimore should pass on a first round receiver, and address TE (Gresham), CB (Cox) or DE (Dunlap/Price)..My front runners for being the new go to man in Baltimore are;

1) Jordan Shipley (SECOND ROUND)- My personal favorite. A+ potential. I got my fingers crossed..

2) Demaryius Thomas (SECOND ROUND) - Could end up being a star in the league.

3) Eric Decker (THIRD ROUND) - Great at what he does.

coordinator0
02-23-2010, 07:13 PM
Just because he can run fast doesn't mean he's good. We shouldn't use or rely on him as anything more than a slot receiver, nor should we pass up a receiver in the first if the value is there.

I'm also starting to think that Washington won't be back. Clayton will most likely be tendered and brought back, the coaching staff loves him and they value that a LOT. Then, if/when we bring in another receiver via FA or the draft (especially if it's a higher round pick), that would relegate him to the 4th/5th receiver spot. Of course that also depends on if Mason is re-signed.

Ugh, so much turmoil and questions about our receivers. I love it :).

BmoreBlackByrdz
02-23-2010, 07:17 PM
I think the Raven's will take the BPA at DE or CB. My hopes are that Kyle Wilson is still on the board. If not him, then Carlos Dunlap.

The awesome thing about the Stallworth signing is that if we cut him before the regular season starts (aka, he doesn't make the team) then we don't have to pay him the 900,000. So basically, he's free unless he makes the team.

coordinator0
02-23-2010, 08:40 PM
Wilson wouldn't be TOO bad, but Dunlap? C'mon man. Brian Price would be FAR better if we were hoping for a defensive lineman to fall to us.

BmoreBlackByrdz
02-24-2010, 05:02 AM
you're probably right, I'm following the draft as close as I was last year, I just think Ozzie will take a pass rusher over a WR in the 1st round any day.

There's a lotta WR depth and I think taking the BPA in the first round is the best way to go.

GoRavens
02-24-2010, 05:34 AM
In my ideal world, the Ravens trade their first round pick for Brandon Marshall. I really really really want Marshall in Baltimore. Really bad. He's a top 5 receiver in the NFL, which is exactly what Flacco needs. Give Baltimore Brandon Marshall, and the Ravens are winning the Superbowl

ChefMike
02-24-2010, 08:30 AM
In my ideal world, the Ravens trade their first round pick for Brandon Marshall. I really really really want Marshall in Baltimore. Really bad. He's a top 5 receiver in the NFL, which is exactly what Flacco needs. Give Baltimore Brandon Marshall, and the Ravens are winning the Superbowl

I agree we need Marshall, but should we also trade away a #1? could we somehow package a #2 and next years #2 or a #1 in 2012? I mean look at what the Raiders gave up last year to the Pats to get Seymour. Maybe we can send next years #1 for Marshall and a 4th this year?