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DiG
02-23-2010, 10:09 AM
Apologies in advance for not doing descriptions this time around. Wanted to get this finished pre combine. If you question any of the picks or want me to explain why I went with a certain player just ask and Ill respond. Threw in a few trades as well for the fun of it.

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers via Stl - DT Ndamukong Suh
*TB trades pick #42 to St Louis
2. Detroit Lions - DT Gerald McCoy
3. St. Louis Rams via TB - QB Sam Bradford
4. Washington Redskins - S Eric Berry
5. Kansas City Chiefs - WR Dez Bryant
6. Seattle Seahawks - OT Russell Okung
7. Cleveland Browns - OT Anthony Davis
8. Oakland Raiders - CB Joe Haden
9. Buffalo Bills - QB Jimmy Clausen
10. New York Giants via Jax - ILB Rolando McClain
*NY trades 3rd round pick to Jax
11. Denver Broncos - NT Dan Williams
12. Miami Dolphins - DE/OLB Jason Pierre Paul
13. San Francisco 49ers - RB C.J. Spiller
14. Seattle Seahawks - DE Derrick Morgan
15. Jacksonville Jaguars via NYG - DE/OLB Brandon Graham
16. Tennessee Titans - OLB Sean Weatherspoon
17. San Francisco 49ers - OT Bryan Bulaga
18. Pittsburgh Steelers - G Mike Iupati
19. Atlanta Falcons - CB Kyle Wilson
20. Houston Texans - DT Brian Price
21. Cincinnati Bengals - FS Earl Thomas
22. New England Patriots - DE/OLB Sergio Kindle
23. Green Bay Packers - DL Jared Odrick
24. Philadelphia Eagles - S Taylor Mays
25. Baltimore Ravens - TE Jermaine Gresham
26. Arizona Cardinals - OT Trent Williams
27. Dallas Cowboys - WR Golden Tate
28. San Diego Chargers - RB Jahvid Best
29. New York Jets - CB Donovan Warren
30. Minnesota Vikings - C/G Maurkice Pouncey
31. Indianapolis Colts - DE Everson Griffen
32. New Orleans Saints - DE Carlos Dunlap

33. St. Louis Rams - CB Perrish Cox
34. Detroit Lions - CB Patrick Robinson
35. Tampa Bay Bucs - WR Arrelious Benn
36. Kansas City Chiefs - ILB Brandon Spikes
37. Washington Redskins - OT Bruce Campbell
38. Cleveland Browns - DE Corey Wootton
39. Oakland Raiders - OT Vladimir Ducasse
40. Seattle Seahawks - S Chad Jones
41. Buffalo Bills - OT Charles Brown
42. St. Louis Rams via TB - WR Brandon LaFell
43. Miami Dolphins - NT Terrance Cody
44. New England Patriots - OLB Jerry Hughes
45. Denver Broncos - WR Damian Williams
46. New York Giants - DT Lamarr Houston
47. New England Patriots - CB Devin McCourty
48. Carolina Panthers - DE Ricky Sapp
49. San Francisco 49ers - S Morgan Burnett
50. Kansas City Chiefs - FS Nate Allen
51. San Diego via Houston - NT Cam Thomas
*SD trades Antonio Cromartie to Houston
52. Pittsburgh Steelers - RB Jonathan Dwyer
53. New England Patriots - OL Rodger Saffold
54. Cincinnati Bengals - WR Mardy Gilyard
55. Philadelphia Eagles - LB Daryl Washington
56. Green Bay Packers - SS Larry Asante
57. Baltimore Ravens - CB Kareem Jackson
58. Arizona Cardinals - TE Aaron Hernandez
59. Dallas Cowboys - DL Alex Carrington
60. San Diego Chargers - CB Brandon Ghee
61. New York Jets - OLB Koa Misi
62. Philadelphia via Minne - DE Greg Hardy
*Philadelphia trades Donovan McNabb to Minnesota
63. Indianapolis Colts - G Mike Johnson
64. New Orleans Saints - OLB Navorro Bowman

zachsaints52
02-23-2010, 10:13 AM
I personally dont believe Saints should trade up to get Odrick when we can just pluck Terrance Cody and keep our 3rd rounder.

Razor
02-23-2010, 10:17 AM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w42/barrow_co2/Facepalm.jpg

Dunlap over Kindle? Hughes over Sapp? I'd love to hear why. :) Also, I'm not a fan of McCourty or Saffold to the Patriots.

AntoinCD
02-23-2010, 10:19 AM
Hopefully the Pats can resign Leigh Bodden which will mean CB is not a need. I like Saffold and Jerry Hughes but if Dunlap is picked in the 1st I don't see them taking Hughes. Dunlap would indicate the switch back to the 4-3 IMO and Hughes will be better suited to OLB I think

DiG
02-23-2010, 10:22 AM
Hopefully the Pats can resign Leigh Bodden which will mean CB is not a need. I like Saffold and Jerry Hughes but if Dunlap is picked in the 1st I don't see them taking Hughes. Dunlap would indicate the switch back to the 4-3 IMO and Hughes will be better suited to OLB I think

for the pats mock i got some help from electriceye. the dunlap over kindle pick was my decision based on the idea that i dont think kindle will check out with belichick and i like dunlaps value better for your scheme. hughes is great value in the 2nd and brings a totally different dimension than dunlap. personally, i dont think that bodden resigns and i think mccourty could be the best fit in the draft for your zone defense. i love saffolds versatility to play rt or guard for you guys.

vidae
02-23-2010, 10:37 AM
Bryant is a meh pick with McClain and Berry on the board.

The second round picks are okay, but we need to address C/G, so Ducasse or Mike Johnson would be great there.

DiG
02-23-2010, 10:43 AM
Bryant is a meh pick with McClain and Berry on the board.

The second round picks are okay, but we need to address C/G, so Ducasse or Mike Johnson would be great there.

my plan was to give you guys tennant in the 3rd but i decided agiasnt doing a 3rd round until after the combine. i went with bryant because i think both mcclain and berry, although very good prospects, are not positions that are worthy of top 5 money. this is such a deep safety class that berry really almost becomes a luxury pick in the top 10, especially the top 5. bryant, imo, is a premiere wr prospect and would be a better choice for the chiefs future than resigning chambers.

marshallb
02-23-2010, 10:49 AM
Well, if the Vikings-Eagles trade is McNabb for a 2nd, I'd be extremely happy with that, hell I'd be ok if we gave up our 3rd as well. Not a big fan of Puncey as I don't think his value is good enough to take there as RG is not our biggest need by any means.

DiG
02-23-2010, 10:51 AM
Well, if the Vikings-Eagles trade is McNabb for a 2nd, I'd be extremely happy with that, hell I'd be ok if we gave up our 3rd as well. Not a big fan of Puncey as I don't think his value is good enough to take there as RG is not our biggest need by any means.

to be honest i didnt love the value at any position of need for you guys and i looked for a trade down but i couldnt find one that i was happy with so i went with pouncey because i have him as best player available on my big board at your positions of need.

ElectricEye
02-23-2010, 10:59 AM
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w42/barrow_co2/Facepalm.jpg

Dunlap over Kindle? Hughes over Sapp? I'd love to hear why. :) Also, I'm not a fan of McCourty or Saffold to the Patriots.

Insinuating Ricky Sapp is a player any worth to anyone is a pretty epic facepalm. Name one thing Ricky Sapp does on a football field better than Jerry Hughes. Name one half thing, even. He's not even big enough to play 3-4 OLB right now.

I would not like the Dunlap pick. I could see it happening, but I'm not a fan of the idea. Don't like his projection to the 3-4 or his character, but if there's two things BB loves it's big linebackers and Florida Gators, so it's a legit possibility. I personally would not take him over Kindle as Kindle probably has more upside in a 3-4 and has played standing up before.

Jerry Hughes, love it. He's just the kind of athletic pass rusher our defense needs. Instant impact player for us next year, which is word for word what we need.

McCourty is not someone I know much about, but from what you told me he sounds like a pretty nice fit for our scheme an upgrade at corner would be nice even if we do somehow work out a way to keep Bodden, which isn't really getting any press right now(which isn't a good sign).

Only pick I really don't like is the Saffold pick, given it's reach by a round or two. Don't mind him as a prospect at all and we'll need a linemen with Steven Neal departing, but Alex Carrington might be the better choice there given we're also losing Jarvis Green.

Overall, really good mock. Patriots mocks are hard. We have a lot of picks and a lot of holes :/

Splat
02-23-2010, 11:07 AM
Not a big fan of the Chiefs draft other then Spikes.

thenewfeature06
02-23-2010, 11:11 AM
If Campbell does fall to us in the 2nd, this draft is ideal.

21ST
02-23-2010, 11:22 AM
There was good o-line value in the 2nd why did you go with a corner

DiG
02-23-2010, 11:23 AM
There was good o-line value in the 2nd why did you go with a corner

decided halfway thru rd 2 that i wasnt going to do a rd 3 and when i made the perrish cox pick i had planned on trading carlos rogers for a 3rd to take best available ol.

zachsaints52
02-23-2010, 11:25 AM
Can you give reason for the Saints trade?

wicket
02-23-2010, 11:28 AM
saints trading up for someone who isnt that good a fit nor good value @ that point makes no sense to me.

prock
02-23-2010, 11:29 AM
if the vikings had that draft, i would jizz my pants. mcnabb for a second would be sick. pouncey isnt a great choice there, but its not horrible. rather see chad jones cuz safety is our biggest need.

Bengals78
02-23-2010, 11:31 AM
You sir, are a genius.

Pat Sims 90
02-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Your Bengals Mock is Sexy

DiG
02-23-2010, 11:39 AM
Can you give reason for the Saints trade?

sure. among the saints primary needs ive got dt, og/c, olb, and potentially s, although i do think they will resign darren sharper so i excluded safety in my thought process. i think defense is a higher priority for saints in the early rounds over og/c, since the saints do well drafting ol in the mid rounds. once kindle went off the board to the packers, the remaining value at dt/olb is slim to none. odrick is the only remaining player that i have with a first round grade for the saints and i dont expect him to make it past the cards, cowboys, chargers trio of picks. personally, i have odrick way ahead of the next best dt for a 4-3 defense which would probably for me be lamarr houston and at the time of the pick i didnt think there would be great value at the end of rd 2 for a dt either whereas i had a feeling an olb would be available.

AkiliSmith
02-23-2010, 11:41 AM
I'm not a fan of Gilyard to the Bengals. They need a big guy or a deep threat, Gilyard is neither. Too similar to the players they already have.

zachsaints52
02-23-2010, 11:46 AM
sure. among the saints primary needs ive got dt, og/c, olb, and potentially s, although i do think they will resign darren sharper so i excluded safety in my thought process. i think defense is a higher priority for saints in the early rounds over og/c, since the saints do well drafting ol in the mid rounds. once kindle went off the board to the packers, the remaining value at dt/olb is slim to none. odrick is the only remaining player that i have with a first round grade for the saints and i dont expect him to make it past the cards, cowboys, chargers trio of picks. personally, i have odrick way ahead of the next best dt for a 4-3 defense which would probably for me be lamarr houston and at the time of the pick i didnt think there would be great value at the end of rd 2 for a dt either whereas i had a feeling an olb would be available.

By why not just wait and get Cody since we need a true run stuffer and use the 3rd on a C?

T-RICH49
02-23-2010, 11:49 AM
no chance we pass on Berry or McClain for Dez Bryant....just no

DiG
02-23-2010, 11:51 AM
By why not just wait and get Cody since we need a true run stuffer and use the 3rd on a C?

because based on my rankings, i dont consider cody better than a late 2nd round pick for a 4-3 defense but hell go earlier for a 3-4.

zachsaints52
02-23-2010, 11:53 AM
because based on my rankings, i dont consider cody better than a late 2nd round pick for a 4-3 defense but hell go earlier for a 3-4.

But for our 4-3 team he will act like a 3-4 NT....

DiG
02-23-2010, 11:56 AM
But for our 4-3 team he will act like a 3-4 NT....

i understand that but theres still no way im willing to mock him to the saints in the first round. i just dont see it at all.

rockio42
02-23-2010, 11:56 AM
**** that....If we trade down to #3 I want their top 2nd round pick...also with 2 2nd round picks and picking a QB in the first at least (and maybe both 2nd rounders) one of those picks HAS to be defense, can't go through two rounds without a LB or DL

FlyingElvis
02-23-2010, 12:12 PM
Dunlap and Hughes would be welcome additions, assuming Dunlap's "character concerns" are behind him.

Both McCourty and Saffold seem like reaches right now. Obviously both can improve their stock, and I'd love McCourty as a KR specialist with CB potential. His stock has Senior Bowl hype written all over it right now, though. I think Gilyard would fill a bigger need while still giving NE the KR specialist and be a better value.

Then again, BB certainly seems to have vastly different values for guys come draft day. Mankins & Vollmer being the most notable examples.

OaklandRaider56
02-23-2010, 12:27 PM
Two athletic freaks to the Raiders? Makes sense.

Unbiased
02-23-2010, 12:32 PM
I like the trade down for Jacksonville, but I'd rather take Price or Iuapati than Weatherspoon with the pick.

akvikefan89
02-23-2010, 01:19 PM
Pouncey and McNabb. You sir, are my hero.

Rosebud
02-23-2010, 01:36 PM
I really don't like that trade for the Gmen. McClain is a stud but we have too many holes on D to be all gun hoe with our picks. We need a starter at DT, a depth DT, a SS, a C and LB that can be ready to contribute by the end of the season. I'd rather just stay at 15 and grab Brian Price or Dan Williams, maybe even move back to see if one of those two falls and if not grab Weatherspoon, Earl Thomas or possible even Chad Jones.

I do like Houston in round two though.

SloppyJoe
02-23-2010, 01:38 PM
Suh and Marshall for the Bucs?!?!....mmhh i really like that :)

RaiderNation
02-23-2010, 01:44 PM
I <3 the raiders draft. Might want Vlad more but Im fine with Campbell

DiG
02-23-2010, 02:09 PM
I really don't like that trade for the Gmen. McClain is a stud but we have too many holes on D to be all gun hoe with our picks. We need a starter at DT, a depth DT, a SS, a C and LB that can be ready to contribute by the end of the season.

have you no faith in FA at all? your not going to address all those positions in the draft and honestly you can only really hope 1st and 2nd rounders contribute right away. a guy like mclain would be well worth your 3rd round pick imo and as a skins fan id be scared if you guys could pull that off.

Legacy
02-23-2010, 03:02 PM
If the Bucs come out of the first two rounds with Ndamukong Suh and Brandon Marshall, I'd be pretty happy.

Brothgar
02-23-2010, 03:07 PM
WHY?!?! Why did you give the Lions Gerald McCoy!!! WHY?!?!

just kaeding

AntoinCD
02-23-2010, 03:26 PM
Dunlap and Hughes would be welcome additions, assuming Dunlap's "character concerns" are behind him.

Both McCourty and Saffold seem like reaches right now. Obviously both can improve their stock, and I'd love McCourty as a KR specialist with CB potential. His stock has Senior Bowl hype written all over it right now, though. I think Gilyard would fill a bigger need while still giving NE the KR specialist and be a better value.

Then again, BB certainly seems to have vastly different values for guys come draft day. Mankins & Vollmer being the most notable examples.

I like Saffold and im not sure he would be that much of a reach at the bottom of the second. Another lineman though I wouldnt mind at that point would be Veldheer. Obviously we got a good one last year in Vollmer and Veldheer could hopefully be as good and give us a set of bookends for the next 10-12 years.

FlyingElvis
02-23-2010, 03:42 PM
^ I usually try to stay away from labeling guys as a "reach" at all. With that said, these are both guys that seem to be late 3rd or even 4th round at best in most rankings I have looked at so far.

DiG
02-23-2010, 03:50 PM
^ I usually try to stay away from labeling guys as a "reach" at all. With that said, these are both guys that seem to be late 3rd or even 4th round at best in most rankings I have looked at so far.

scott wright has saffold in the 2nd round of his latest mock and mccourty ranked as the 5th best cb as do i, although our first 4 are ranked differently. personally given draft trends, i find it hard to believe that 5-6 cbs wont go in the first two rounds and mccourty is actually a better fit in your zone defense than some of the cbs ranked higher than him. im confident neither of those picks are reaches for the pats.

AntoinCD
02-23-2010, 03:59 PM
^ I usually try to stay away from labeling guys as a "reach" at all. With that said, these are both guys that seem to be late 3rd or even 4th round at best in most rankings I have looked at so far.

Yea I think at the minute there are a lot of prospects that can really be described as 2nd-4th round talents and could go anywhere in between. The combine should be interesting because I feel a lot of skill position guys will fall and a lot of linemen will rise.

coordinator0
02-23-2010, 04:04 PM
Love the trade down for Baltimore, but the picks aren't very good. Especially Koa Misi. Gresham I could see, if he shows well in the combine workouts and such he'll probably get his value back to nearly what it was last year. I just don't see him being that much better than Benn at this point, and we tend to like the TEs who can both block and receiver. Gresham looks to be mostly a receiver (yes Heap did that as well, but he's also a pretty decent blocker).

Misi on the other hand... is a reach. And a reach at a position that isn't needed. DE/OLB is set on this team. Now if it were somebody that profiled to be a 4-3 OLB or a 4-3 DE that would be different, or even better a 4-3 UT.

Chucky
02-23-2010, 04:08 PM
If the Bucs got Marshall and Suh from the first two rounds it would be orgasmic. Awesomeness

DiG
02-23-2010, 04:10 PM
Misi on the other hand... is a reach. And a reach at a position that isn't needed. DE/OLB is set on this team. Now if it were somebody that profiled to be a 4-3 OLB or a 4-3 DE that would be different, or even better a 4-3 UT.

you must be poppin the kruger pills they hand out around powerplant...just playin http://www.msnheaven.com/content/emoticons/69/tongue0009.gif

K Train
02-23-2010, 04:19 PM
iupati would make me blow a gasket, but i would then be calmed down by dwyer....who needs a thunder and lightning duo when you have thunder and earthquake

RealityCheck
02-23-2010, 04:19 PM
22. New England Patriots - DE Carlos Dunlap
44. New England Patriots - OLB Jerry Hughes
47. New England Patriots - CB Devin McCourty
53. New England Patriots - OL Rodger Saffold

Naaaaah.
Yeah!
Nah.
Nah.

K Train
02-23-2010, 04:22 PM
i think dunlap would be a pretty good fit in NE

coordinator0
02-23-2010, 04:27 PM
you must be poppin the kruger pills they hand out around powerplant...just playin http://www.msnheaven.com/content/emoticons/69/tongue0009.gif

Haha I'm not really even considering Kruger as solid depth, but we also have to actually play him and see what he's got. The Ravens also have other quality backups that can play the DE/OLB role, even in depth. Look at it this way - Suggs and Johnson aren't losing their starting spots anytime soon. We have Kruger who will probably get a lot of minutes backing up these two if we continue to play a 3-4 (which I doubt). Then we've got guys like Barnes and McClain who aren't that spectacular, but still solid depth and special teams guys.

Hines
02-23-2010, 04:58 PM
If Iupati is there on the board and there is noone else there that'll fit our needs, I'll take him. Dwyer in the second is sexy as well.

thebow305
02-23-2010, 05:14 PM
Wow, I'd be pretty upset if that's how our draft started.

Graham is a reach at #12, so give us Kindle or Morgan there instead. And LaFell is a reach in the 2nd as well. He sucks and Demaryius Thomas or Damian Williams would be much better picks there instead.

jCut
02-23-2010, 05:29 PM
Nice Denver draft.

Grizzlegom
02-23-2010, 06:03 PM
not really a fan of the Dolphins draft, as good as Graham has been, i just don't see him as a top 15 pick, i'd rather go Dan Williams or Kindle there to be honest. In the second i don't dislike LaFell but I'd rather see someone like Nate Allen or, if we went with Williams in the first, Ricky Sapp.

DiG
02-23-2010, 06:17 PM
not really a fan of the Dolphins draft, as good as Graham has been, i just don't see him as a top 15 pick, i'd rather go Dan Williams or Kindle there to be honest.

i can understand right now how you may think dan williams or kindle might be better value but i went with this pick based on parcells history drafting as well as my personal opinion that graham will continue to climb through the combine, interviews, and pro day workouts. come april i honestly think you might be lucky to get graham here.

Abaddon
02-23-2010, 08:24 PM
Can't see Oakland passing on Haden. Can't see Haden falling that far regardless.

bluebonnet78
02-23-2010, 09:06 PM
I'd take Golden Tate for Dallas. As much as I'd like to see the safety and offensive line situation addressed early on, I hope Jerry is going to take the best player available on his board (other than any player playing TE, RB, or QB). I also am beginning to think Jerry could be blowing hot air about wide receiver not being a draft priority this year as he said in an interview earlier. Ogletree looks promising as a second receiver, but Golden Tate could be a special player if he's just sitting there at 27. I still have injury concerns about Miles Austin actually so I think stocking up at the position isn't a bad idea especially if Jerry has doubts about Roy Williams (which he should).

I was surprised to see the plight of Bruce Campbell in your draft especially with Arizona. Arizona is in serious need of a left tackle upgrade and I could see them reaching at that spot. I guess your rationale is that the certainty of Williams as a RT outweighs the confidence they have in an injury prone Campbell. In your draft scenario I could also see Dallas taking Bruce Campbell and grooming him as a left tackle. Some Dallas fans don't see left tackle as a need with Doug Free, but I think that it's sort of unresolved at this point how much Free can competently handle.

Good mock even though it's missing explanations. The trades made it more fun to read too.

BaLLiN
02-23-2010, 09:13 PM
fair trade for the giants, dont care much for houston though

proshoota25
02-23-2010, 10:22 PM
hmmm you dont think Kindle would check out wit Bill B? How about Dunlap? He might be one of the dumbest guys in the draft. Kindle would be picked over Dunlap very quickly imo.

futureshock
02-23-2010, 10:57 PM
WHY?!?! Why did you give the Lions Gerald McCoy!!! WHY?!?!

just kaeding

My question is why no trade for Det?

If STL wants a QB then they trade w/TB. Great. At that point Det trades the #2 to Was for the #4, a third in this draft and a second or third in next years draft AND still picks up McCoy or Okung a no lose proposition.

Was gets Bradford
STL gets Clausen (No way they take DT at that point because if McCoy doesn't light it up more then Suh that GM - who is already under fire for many losing seasons in the past few years, and already investing so heavily in that area already)
DET gets McCoy and enough ammo to then trade backup into the second or late first round. Dependent on who is around at those times.

vikes_28
02-24-2010, 02:16 AM
Nice Vikings 2nd round. First round is ok, but I wouldn't mind at all if we got McNabb in the second.

DiG
02-24-2010, 09:29 AM
made some tweaks for you guys. cheers.

Poz51
02-24-2010, 10:32 AM
Apologies in advance for not doing descriptions this time around. Wanted to get this finished pre combine. If you question any of the picks or want me to explain why I went with a certain player just ask and Ill respond.

9. Buffalo Bills - QB Jimmy Clausen

41. Buffalo Bills - OT Charles Brown
43. Miami Dolphins - NT Terrance Cody
44. New England Patriots - OLB Jerry Hughes
45. Arizona Cardinals via Den - OLB Ricky Sapp


Love the first round pick, in the second round do you think Brown is the type of player who would fit in Buffalo? Personnaly I do not, looks like the run will be stressed, and this time I actually believe they will be more consistant in doing so, which IMO is not one of Browns strengths. I see the upside of him in pass protection, but that to me is negated with regards to his run blocking. LT certainly is a priority in Buffalo, a blind monkey smoking a dubbie knows that, but I think there are other needs that could be addressed, then take Vledheer, Capers, Washington, Fox, or whomever in the third, and take the value in Cody, Hughes, or Sapp in the second. Cody being the guy I would go with personally.

Nice Denver draft.
Must be a man crush thing, in my mock he is a reach...
p.s. I actually agree with him being a reach...

Grizzlegom
02-24-2010, 10:59 AM
made some tweaks for you guys. cheers.

I'm on board with the changes, particularly Mount Cody. JPP for Graham is a push for me (i'm with you on Graham being worth a top 15 pick when its all said and done but i still think teams are going to shy away from him til the 20s because of his size/wingspan)

FlyingElvis
02-24-2010, 11:31 AM
scott wright has saffold in the 2nd round of his latest mock and mccourty ranked as the 5th best cb as do i, although our first 4 are ranked differently. personally given draft trends, i find it hard to believe that 5-6 cbs wont go in the first two rounds and mccourty is actually a better fit in your zone defense than some of the cbs ranked higher than him. im confident neither of those picks are reaches for the pats.

Fair enough. And precisely the reason why I try to stay away from "he's a reach" type comments. :)

Diehard
02-24-2010, 11:38 AM
made some tweaks for you guys. cheers.

You need to give Denver's 2nd rounder back or add trade details.

DiG
02-24-2010, 11:39 AM
You need to give Denver's 2nd rounder back or add trade details.

touche. good catch there. uno momento.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2010, 09:27 AM
scott wright has saffold in the 2nd round of his latest mock and mccourty ranked as the 5th best cb as do i, although our first 4 are ranked differently. personally given draft trends, i find it hard to believe that 5-6 cbs wont go in the first two rounds and mccourty is actually a better fit in your zone defense than some of the cbs ranked higher than him. im confident neither of those picks are reaches for the pats.

Fair enough. And precisely the reason why I try to stay away from "he's a reach" type comments. :)

After an impressive showing at the combine, including the insane "NFLNMotion" shots of him doing a cone drill, I'm thinking Saffold might be a steal that late.

Jerry's World
03-01-2010, 12:52 PM
Give the Bucs Damian Williams. I do not like Benn. He had a bad year.

StripedWalrus
03-01-2010, 01:38 PM
Damaryius Thomas instead of Gilyard in the second is what I would prefer...however Gily really wants to play in Cincy...so he very well could be in Cincy next year. Would prefer drafting Thomas in the second but I am not saying you are wrong in any way by picking Gily.