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Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 08:55 AM
I will be posting results from the Scouting Combine as they trickle in at the following link:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/ScoutingCombine/ScoutingCombine.php

DiG
02-25-2010, 08:58 AM
cant wait! when do measurements start?

Hines
02-25-2010, 11:17 AM
That height, weight, and arm length is going to help out Tony Washington. Now all that will kill him is his interviews since he has had off the field incidents.

Cicero
02-25-2010, 11:42 AM
Bruce Campbell has some long arms.

Mr.Regular
02-25-2010, 11:43 AM
Charles Brown has beefed up to a nice 303. He should be a first round pick, I think the guy is fantastic. A perfect LT for a ZBS.

Giantsfan1080
02-25-2010, 11:50 AM
Bruce Campbell has some long arms.

As does Anthony Davis and Russell Okung.

DiG
02-25-2010, 11:50 AM
Charles Brown has beefed up to a nice 303. He should be a first round pick, I think the guy is fantastic. A perfect LT for a ZBS.

shhhh he needs to fall to the Skins 2nd round pick.

Mr.Regular
02-25-2010, 11:53 AM
shhhh he needs to fall to the Skins 2nd round pick.
Hellzz no, Ive been wanting him in Green Bay all year. The only question I had about him was his weight, and he answered it right there.

K Train
02-25-2010, 11:56 AM
damn 303 from 285....william beatty 2.0

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 11:59 AM
It will be interesting to see if Brown maintained his athleticism with the extra weight.

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 12:06 PM
Check out this must-read article from Bill Barnwell of Football Outsiders running on ESPN.com that debunks some of the classic Scouting Combine myths

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=4944935

phlysac
02-25-2010, 12:09 PM
The "Bulaga has 33" arms" rumors appear true. Anyone have any recent comparisons of top OT prospects with similar arm-length?

BRAVEHEART
02-25-2010, 12:12 PM
The "Bulaga has 33" arms" rumors appear true. Anyone have any recent comparisons of top OT prospects with similar arm-length?

I think Sam Baker's arms were around there (not sure), but Sam has alot of skill that makes up for his physical shortcomings. I don't know if Buluga is on that level.

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 12:13 PM
The "Bulaga has 33" arms" rumors appear true. Anyone have any recent comparisons of top OT prospects with similar arm-length?

Here are a handful of the top guys from last year:

Eben Britton - 32 3/4
Eugene Monroe - 33 7/8
Michael Oher - 33 1/2
Jason Smith - 33 3/4

killxswitch
02-25-2010, 12:14 PM
I love hearing Charles Brown is up over 300. Could be 310+ by the start of next season. If the Colts nabbed him at 31 I wouldn't cry about it.

BRAVEHEART
02-25-2010, 12:16 PM
where are the results coming from...NFL network?

Viper652
02-25-2010, 12:20 PM
They measure at midday and not in the morning, right? Or sometimes in the afternoon?

phlysac
02-25-2010, 12:23 PM
Here are a handful of the top guys from last year:

Eben Britton - 32 3/4
Eugene Monroe - 33 7/8
Michael Oher - 33 1/2
Jason Smith - 33 3/4

Thank you Scott.

SenorGato
02-25-2010, 12:32 PM
Oh man is someone going to love Anthony Davis...

I apologize for the stupidity of this comment, but he's going to be playing RT on my 2011 Madden team (because D'Bricks at LT).

Babylon
02-25-2010, 12:34 PM
The "Bulaga has 33" arms" rumors appear true. Anyone have any recent comparisons of top OT prospects with similar arm-length?

Joe Thomas.

As for Charles Brown i'm not sure that getting up to 303 is what i'd call adding bulk. The key for him is going to be the bench press then i might jump on the bandwagon, not yet.

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 12:37 PM
Here's an article by my buddy Nolan Nawrocki over at Pro Football Weekly with a chart of the arm lengths of NFL left tackles. Lots of good players in that 33-inch range.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/04/14/arm-length-hand-quickness-dictate-olt-success

bitonti
02-25-2010, 12:37 PM
The "Bulaga has 33" arms" rumors appear true. Anyone have any recent comparisons of top OT prospects with similar arm-length?

33 inch arms are fine. it's the 30 inch arms that worry scouts.

Viper652
02-25-2010, 12:49 PM
How do they measure the arm length exactly?

K Train
02-25-2010, 12:50 PM
chris williams had short arms i think

DiG
02-25-2010, 12:50 PM
How do they measure the arm length exactly?

arm extended, measure from the dip in the shoulder to the extension of the middle finger

Viper652
02-25-2010, 12:57 PM
Man, Im pretty tall yet I only have 30 inch arms at best.

bitonti
02-25-2010, 12:58 PM
these results definitely help Scott and Campbell...

DiG
02-25-2010, 12:58 PM
wow dwyer claims hes shed 17 lbs since his last game.

RealityCheck
02-25-2010, 12:59 PM
Why is Bulaga's weight missing?

Viper652
02-25-2010, 01:00 PM
hmm, so they do measure in the morning. Most people are fractionally taller in the morning than at night. Gravity and your spine compresses.

Viper652
02-25-2010, 01:02 PM
Campbell is such a beast. Im a Maryland fan so I know all about him. 6-6 and 315 pounds mostly muscle with 36 inch arms is pretty sick.

Viper652
02-25-2010, 01:05 PM
I cant believe how lean Campbell looks for 315 pounds. Its insane

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 01:05 PM
Come on guys, why post links to sites that have the same information I do posted in the link at the top of this thread. Give Draft Countdown those page views! :)

Finnegans Wake
02-25-2010, 01:07 PM
arm extended, measure from the dip in the shoulder to the extension of the middle finger

Thanks for that. I always wondered what the exact method was.

Jakey
02-25-2010, 02:39 PM
Anyone got a link to the weigh-ins? Im impatient XD

ToldLikeItIs
02-25-2010, 02:43 PM
Kyle Calloway measure in yet?

Bulaga weighed in at 315.

Boxol
02-25-2010, 02:49 PM
Kyle Calloway measure in yet?

Bulaga weighed in at 315.

Kyle Calloway

*
Height:
6'6"
*
Weight:
323 lbs.
*
Arm Length:
33 1/4 in.
*
Hand Size:
10 1/8 in.

Boxol
02-25-2010, 02:50 PM
Anyone got a link to the weigh-ins? Im impatient XD

http://www.nfl.com/combine/players#players-tab-set-1:players-grid-container-position

RealityCheck
02-25-2010, 03:01 PM
Levi Brown went in at 6-3, 229.

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 03:03 PM
http://www.nfl.com/combine/players#players-tab-set-1:players-grid-container-position

Those heights aren't accurate. In fact, they're off by 1/2 inch in some cases.

RealityCheck
02-25-2010, 03:08 PM
Screw NFL.com

PossibleCabbage
02-25-2010, 03:10 PM
Those heights aren't accurate. In fact, they're off by 1/2 inch in some cases.

Why are NFL.com's numbers not accurate? Because they sanitize the information for the public by rounding off quarter inches?

RealityCheck
02-25-2010, 03:20 PM
Why are NFL.com's numbers not accurate? Because they sanitize the information for the public by rounding off quarter inches?
What's the difference on your on-field performance if you're 6'6" 3/8 or 6'6" 6/8?

Jakey
02-25-2010, 03:53 PM
What's the difference on your on-field performance if you're 6'6" 3/8 or 6'6" 6/8?

I wouldnt complain about another half inch ;)

PossibleCabbage
02-25-2010, 03:55 PM
What's the difference on your on-field performance if you're 6'6" 3/8 or 6'6" 6/8?

On the other hand, why bother measuring people's heights precisely and publishing information on people's heights, if you're not going to publish the precise information on people's heights?

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 03:55 PM
I wouldnt complain about another half inch ;)

To each his own! :)

OregonDucks
02-25-2010, 04:13 PM
When do they take the wonderlic and when should we know the results? Btw I took a similar test for fun and scored a 31. :)

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 04:19 PM
When do they take the wonderlic and when should we know the results? Btw I took a similar test for fun and scored a 31. :)

Those Wonderlic scores are pretty closely guarded, especially after the Vince Young fiasco. We may hear about some guys who do well but don't count on hearing about the single-digit scores.

no bare feet
02-25-2010, 04:24 PM
The hype of the boomstick goes on, I love bruce and this is the perfect platform for him to be a top 20 pick. 5 OTs in the top 20? Okung, Williams, Bulaga, Campbell and Davis?

wicket
02-25-2010, 04:27 PM
is there a schedule somewhere that says what combine event happens when?

OregonDucks
02-25-2010, 04:45 PM
is there a schedule somewhere that says what combine event happens when?

Good question, I've wondered that myself. I hope they follow it more closely this year, the past few years they have missed a few guys running their drills and sometimes dont go back show us.

Babylon
02-25-2010, 04:46 PM
The hype of the boomstick goes on, I love bruce and this is the perfect platform for him to be a top 20 pick. 5 OTs in the top 20? Okung, Williams, Bulaga, Campbell and Davis?

Last year there were 3 in the top 20 and this group arguably may not be as good. I say no.

Scott Wright
02-25-2010, 04:49 PM
is there a schedule somewhere that says what combine event happens when?

WORKOUT SCHEDULE

Saturday, Feb. 27 Group 1 (OL, SPECIALISTS)
Group 2 (OL)
Group 3 (TE)

Sunday, Feb. 28 Group 4 (QB, WR)
Group 5 (QB, WR)
Group 6 (RB)

Monday, March 1 Group 7 (DL)
Group 8 (DL)
Group 9 (LB)

Tuesday, March 2 Group 10 (DB)
Group 11 (DB)

BaLLiN
02-25-2010, 04:54 PM
Of course they put the best ones on monday and tuesday so i cant see them... ugh

K Train
02-25-2010, 05:12 PM
i cant believe its already the bruce campbell show lol....his size and athleticism is almost scary. hes looks more like vernon davis than a LT but is 65 pounds heavier

OregonDucks
02-25-2010, 05:16 PM
WORKOUT SCHEDULE

Saturday, Feb. 27 Group 1 (OL, SPECIALISTS)
Group 2 (OL)
Group 3 (TE)

Sunday, Feb. 28 Group 4 (QB, WR)
Group 5 (QB, WR)
Group 6 (RB)

Monday, March 1 Group 7 (DL)
Group 8 (DL)
Group 9 (LB)

Tuesday, March 2 Group 10 (DB)
Group 11 (DB)

He wants the event schedule not position.

no bare feet
02-25-2010, 05:17 PM
40 yard dash: sometime between Feb 27th-****!

TPac
02-25-2010, 05:21 PM
Anyone know why Levi Brown and a couple other QBs had their measurements today?

Bradyjackson12
02-25-2010, 05:35 PM
On NFL.com, the arm strength of Anthony Davis is 34 while it is 36 on your site. Which one is correct?
Also, do you think either Bruce Campbell or Sergio Kindle could fall to the Patriots at 22 and which one would fit the best. Matt Light is getting up in years but we also need a serious boost on the outside pass rush.
Keep up your good work.

no bare feet
02-25-2010, 05:36 PM
On NFL.com, the arm strength of Anthony Davis is 34 while it is 36 on your site. Which one is correct?
Also, do you think either Bruce Campbell or Sergio Kindle could fall to the Patriots at 22 and which one would fit the best. Matt Light is getting up in years but we also need a serious boost on the outside pass rush.
Keep up your good work.

When in doubt, trust Scott Wright

Hokie_Pokie08
02-25-2010, 05:54 PM
On NFL.com, the arm strength of Anthony Davis is 34 while it is 36 on your site. Which one is correct?
Also, do you think either Bruce Campbell or Sergio Kindle could fall to the Patriots at 22 and which one would fit the best. Matt Light is getting up in years but we also need a serious boost on the outside pass rush.
Keep up your good work.

Davis's arm length is 34 inches.

wicket
02-25-2010, 05:56 PM
When in doubt, trust Scott Wright

dont be a fool, give boobie the ball

JoeJoeBrown
02-25-2010, 06:08 PM
I just was selected to receive a $1000 Walmart giftcard!

Make sure to mute your speakers if you are browsing at work!

OregonDucks
02-25-2010, 07:03 PM
They just said on nfln that the OL and TE's are bench pressing tomorrow, does anyone know at what time they are doing that?

king2am
02-25-2010, 08:25 PM
I just was selected to receive a $1000 Walmart giftcard!

Make sure to mute your speakers if you are browsing at work!

Ah HA HA HA! That's awesome man. Just awesome.

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 12:35 AM
Scott why dont you have all the height and hand sizes for all the OL and TE?

boknows34
02-26-2010, 03:53 AM
is there a schedule somewhere that says what combine event happens when?


Is this what you are looking for? It includes the schedule for all the measurements, tests and interviews, not just the workouts.

http://www.nflcombine.net/players/schedule

Scott Wright
02-26-2010, 07:34 AM
Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen came in at 6-2 5/8 and 222 lbs. That is taller than both Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez. Put that to rest. On the other hand Colt McCoy was just 6-1 1/8.

Razor
02-26-2010, 07:46 AM
Bradford is 6'4" 2/8 236 lbs. That looks like a prototypical QB to me.

DiG
02-26-2010, 08:20 AM
keep those qb weigh ins coming scott!!

superman
02-26-2010, 08:40 AM
would have never guessed bradford was bigger than tebow

Scott Wright
02-26-2010, 08:49 AM
I'm really not all that surprised by Bradford's weigh-in. Remember, he basically got a three month jump on his pre-draft training because his season ended so early.

Scott Wright
02-26-2010, 09:07 AM
Here is a link to where I am compiling the results:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/ScoutingCombine/ScoutingCombine.php

DiG
02-26-2010, 09:09 AM
I'm really not all that surprised by Bradford's weigh-in. Remember, he basically got a three month jump on his pre-draft training because his season ended so early.

ive heard rumor that the added weight is a good bit muscle. ill be interested to see eventually how he throws and see if hes managed to get a bit more zip behind his balls.

draftguru151
02-26-2010, 09:10 AM
Nice weights for Best and Dwyer. Love Dwyer at that weight so much more than what he weighed this past season. Best has a pretty solid lower half so that weight isn't that surprising.

And wow Dez Bryant at 6-2 225. Can't wait to see what he runs.

wicket
02-26-2010, 09:11 AM
nice so jimmy is about as heavy and tall as reported.

Hines
02-26-2010, 09:28 AM
I thought Best would be around 5'9 185 or something. With him being as big as he is, I wouldn't be surprised if he moved up in the first round discussion even more. He's a little bigger than Spiller and that surprises me as well because Spiller looks bigger than what he measured in.

coordinator0
02-26-2010, 09:35 AM
I've always wondered this, do the size of a receivers hands play a big part in his ability to catch the ball?

Hines
02-26-2010, 09:36 AM
It certainly helps.

Grizzlegom
02-26-2010, 09:37 AM
I've always wondered this, do the size of a receivers hands play a big part in his ability to catch the ball?

read the article scott posted in the first page and it will tell u everything you need to know.

coordinator0
02-26-2010, 09:39 AM
I can't, it's Insider and I don't have it.

brat316
02-26-2010, 09:49 AM
Jordan Shippley 5-11. Wasn't he suppose to be like 6-3?

Hines
02-26-2010, 09:50 AM
Jordan Shippley 5-11. Wasn't he suppose to be like 6-3?

I doubt it. He was listed at 6'0.

wicket
02-26-2010, 09:51 AM
Jordan Shippley 5-11. Wasn't he suppose to be like 6-3?

wrong roommate, you are thinking of tebows roommate

Texas Homer
02-26-2010, 10:10 AM
I'm glad Colt measured in at 6'1 1/8.

Sure it isn't 6'4", but it is taller than the 5'11" some people seem to think Colt is.

FlyingElvis
02-26-2010, 10:10 AM
How quickly do you update the measurables within each player's scouting report, Scott?


Of course they put the best ones on monday and tuesday so i cant see them... ugh

No DVR? Best. Technology. Ever.

brat316
02-26-2010, 10:33 AM
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/26/holliday-adding-receiver-workouts-to-return-duties/

Holliday plans to run 4.23 and do WR drills and return drills.

keylime_5
02-26-2010, 10:34 AM
I remember Bradford being really thin as a freshman and sophomore. I figured no way was he more than 220 lbs. tops, probalby closer to 210. Looks like he put that 6'4" frame to good use.

superman8456
02-26-2010, 10:39 AM
Brandon James stock is going to be rising.

murdamal86
02-26-2010, 11:00 AM
Brandon James stock is going to be rising.

Based off what? Fill me in or is this just a prediction?

Babylon
02-26-2010, 11:03 AM
nice so jimmy is about as heavy and tall as reported.

Should help him i would think.

DiG
02-26-2010, 11:10 AM
scott - how does shanahan announcing that the skins will run a 3-4 change their draft in your eyes?

ThePudge
02-26-2010, 11:19 AM
Sam Bradford checking in at 6'4 1/4 236 surprises me. I would imagine that wight number will be down at 227-230 by his Pro Day but it's great to know he's bulked up and he really does have the size to look the part.

Jonathan Dwyer at 229 suggests we might be seeing a show this weekend. At 245 he looked a bit sluggish, but between 230-235 he's shown rare speed. At this weight I'm thinking you're going to see him run below the 4.48 I had initially expected him at.

Dez at a full 6'2 actually surprises/pleases me though he needs to get that weight (225) down by his Pro Day so he can look as agile and fast as he plays. Good height for him though...

SenorGato
02-26-2010, 11:37 AM
Bryant at 225 is perfect...He's going to blow up the combine. Mike Williams' 221 is an issue though...I didn't see any pictures but I can't imagine it being a good 221.

Nicely done by both Clausen and Bradford...

ThePudge
02-26-2010, 11:43 AM
Bryant at 225 is perfect...He's going to blow up the combine.

I have a hard time believing his playing weight in 2008 was 225. I've heard rumors that he's out of shape and I guess we'll be seeing in a couple days. By his Pro Day I'd like to see him between 215 and 220. Just to let you know, his 34" arms at only 6020 are longer than most Tight Ends and more than a handful of Offensive Tackles. Those arms and his leaping ability allow him to play taller than he is and appear 6'3-6'4 on the field.

SenorGato
02-26-2010, 11:46 AM
I have a hard time believing his playing weight in 2008 was 225. I've heard rumors that he's out of shape and I guess we'll be seeing in a couple days. By his Pro Day I'd like to see him between 215 and 220. Just to let you know, his 34" arms at only 6020 are longer than most Tight Ends and more than a handful of Offensive Tackles. Those arms and his leaping ability allow him to play taller than he is and appear 6'3-6'4 on the field.

Yes, but that was 2 years ago. I have no doubts it wasn't...

I've heard 0 rumors about him being out of shape...I expect that 225 is legit...if you saw him in the 3 games he played this year he looked absolutely jacked.

Andre Johnson was 6'2 225...That comparison is thrown at Bryant for good reasons...I'd swear he wants to be in that class of WR, but I don't know him. Still...actions speak louder than words...he's put himself in that class of WR propsect.

Bryant knows exactly what he's doing...thats why he's my favorite non-Suh prospect in this draft. He's had NFL in his eyes since '08...Next step for him is to run the 40 in the 4.4s.

ThePudge
02-26-2010, 12:05 PM
Yes, but that was 2 years ago. I have no doubts it wasn't...

I've heard 0 rumors about him being out of shape...I expect that 225 is legit...if you saw him in the 3 games he played this year he looked absolutely jacked.

Andre Johnson was 6'2 225...That comparison is thrown at Bryant for good reasons...I'd swear he wants to be in that class of WR, but I don't know him. Still...actions speak louder than words...he's put himself in that class of WR propsect.

Bryant knows exactly what he's doing...thats why he's my favorite non-Suh prospect in this draft. He's had NFL in his eyes since '08...Next step for him is to run the 40 in the 4.4s.

I did see the games, he is jacked... but I still don't believe his playing weight is quite that high. I'd think when he is in game shape (which don't fool yourself, he isn't) he's somewhere between 217 and 221 just by studying him on film. Andre Johnson was a physical freak second only to Calvin Johnson (he ran a 4.41 at 230), Dez possesses a tremendous physical skill-set but he comes up short against Andre.

Rumor
http://www.nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35567013/sports/player_news

Rumor
http://www.newsok.com/nfl-network-draft-guru-says-dez-bryant-has-much-to-prove/article/3442265?custom_click=pod_headline_osu-sports

Basically, it was was reported two-three weeks ago that Bryant is out of shape. So, if you haven't heard the rumors I'd have to suggest you tune up the frequency a bit because it's been all over the internet. 225 for him doesn't equate to body fat but he'll need to show he can crack 4.5 at that weight which I have some doubt that he can. His Pro Day will give us a better look I think as the process has really just begun for Underclassmen and some time to adjust may be necessary. So like many RS Sophomores and Juniors, I doubt Bryant knows exactly what he was doing and he has a lot to prove here in Indy before it appears as if he did.

I love Dez Bryant. He's the #3 player on my board and as a draft prospect I compare his value to that of Larry Fitzgerald's in 2004. Still downplaying concerns isn't the route I'm taking and I won't pretend like Bryant is spinning a web here, knowing exactly what he's doing, and will be drafted in the Top 3-5 picks.

Morton
02-26-2010, 12:30 PM
Toby Gerhart at 6'0" 230+ lbs?

I know he's a big guy, but I pictured him as more of a 6'1" or 6'2" 225lb kind of guy.

Was kind of shocked he isn't that tall, and has all that weight on his frame. When you see him in interviews and such, he doesn't seem like that big of a guy. 230+lbs is alot to carry on a 6'0" frame.

Scott Wright
02-26-2010, 12:56 PM
How quickly do you update the measurables within each player's scouting report, Scott?




No DVR? Best. Technology. Ever.

Within a week of having them all.

YotoJets007
02-26-2010, 01:03 PM
I did see the games, he is jacked... but I still don't believe his playing weight is quite that high. I'd think when he is in game shape (which don't fool yourself, he isn't) he's somewhere between 217 and 221 just by studying him on film. Andre Johnson was a physical freak second only to Calvin Johnson (he ran a 4.41 at 230), Dez possesses a tremendous physical skill-set but he comes up short against Andre.

Rumor
http://www.nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35567013/sports/player_news

Rumor
http://www.newsok.com/nfl-network-draft-guru-says-dez-bryant-has-much-to-prove/article/3442265?custom_click=pod_headline_osu-sports

Basically, it was was reported two-three weeks ago that Bryant is out of shape. So, if you haven't heard the rumors I'd have to suggest you tune up the frequency a bit because it's been all over the internet. 225 for him doesn't equate to body fat but he'll need to show he can crack 4.5 at that weight which I have some doubt that he can. His Pro Day will give us a better look I think as the process has really just begun for Underclassmen and some time to adjust may be necessary. So like many RS Sophomores and Juniors, I doubt Bryant knows exactly what he was doing and he has a lot to prove here in Indy before it appears as if he did.

I love Dez Bryant. He's the #3 player on my board and as a draft prospect I compare his value to that of Larry Fitzgerald's in 2004. Still downplaying concerns isn't the route I'm taking and I won't pretend like Bryant is spinning a web here, knowing exactly what he's doing, and will be drafted in the Top 3-5 picks.


For Bryant, 40 yard clock wont be overrated. lol.. Does Bryant being kicked out mean he cant train in the Sanders "gym"? Dunno. He being beefed up means he is out of shape but Charles Brown being beefed up means he is a legit? How funny people are. Cant wait to find out.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 01:09 PM
Based off what? Fill me in or is this just a prediction?

I keep thinking of Riley Cooper running by him on that kick return, from that i'd have to question his speed.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 01:11 PM
I have a hard time believing his playing weight in 2008 was 225. I've heard rumors that he's out of shape and I guess we'll be seeing in a couple days. By his Pro Day I'd like to see him between 215 and 220. Just to let you know, his 34" arms at only 6020 are longer than most Tight Ends and more than a handful of Offensive Tackles. Those arms and his leaping ability allow him to play taller than he is and appear 6'3-6'4 on the field.

I agree on the weight issue. Seems guys get their weight down to get better speed numbers, if you're over it's probably for a reason.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Toby Gerhart at 6'0" 230+ lbs?

I know he's a big guy, but I pictured him as more of a 6'1" or 6'2" 225lb kind of guy.

Was kind of shocked he isn't that tall, and has all that weight on his frame. When you see him in interviews and such, he doesn't seem like that big of a guy. 230+lbs is alot to carry on a 6'0" frame.

I wouldnt have been shocked if he were 5'11" so 6' seems perfectly fine, saves people from saying that at 6'2" with his upright style........

thetedginnshow
02-26-2010, 01:39 PM
That's why LaFell has problems catching. He has super small hands.

Bay Bay is nasty. He broke his foot/ankle though right? Or was that just a rumor?

ThePudge
02-26-2010, 01:42 PM
That's why LaFell has problems catching. He has super small hands.

Bay Bay is nasty. He broke his foot/ankle though right? Or was that just a rumor?

Foot. No rumor. He'll be healthy by camp (supposedly)

OSUGiants17
02-26-2010, 01:45 PM
I hate not being able to watch the combine.

FlyingElvis
02-26-2010, 01:47 PM
For Bryant, 40 yard clock wont be overrated. lol.. Does Bryant being kicked out mean he cant train in the Sanders "gym"? Dunno. He being beefed up means he is out of shape but Charles Brown being beefed up means he is a legit? How funny people are. Cant wait to find out.

wut?

You're comparing the response to a "beefed up" WR to that of a "beefed up" lineman?

superman
02-26-2010, 01:48 PM
im watching now, are they gonna bench or what? they keep saying it then nothing...

ninerfan
02-26-2010, 01:58 PM
Bradford at 6'4 236 ticks alot of boxes for me. I had envisioned him in the Alex Smith mould of body type (tall, lean athletic) but the extra 15 - 20 pounds will enable him to absorb the punishment he's going to have to take when he's drafted to a low team. As long as his shoulder checks there is no way he's not the top QB in my mind and real chance of going top 3

Pryme
02-26-2010, 02:04 PM
Bruce Campbell puts up 225lb 34 times! Holy crap! There goes the Cowboy's shot at getting him. :(

superman
02-26-2010, 02:07 PM
Bruce Campbell puts up 225lb 34 times! Holy crap! There goes the Cowboy's shot at getting him. :(

idk about holy crap because a lot of linemen will put up 30+, but yeah that's good. he's turning out to be quite impressive overall.

Pryme
02-26-2010, 02:09 PM
idk about holy crap because a lot of linemen will put up 30+, but yeah that's good. he's turning out to be quite impressive overall.

I don't think he makes it out of the top 20 with this combine. Tackles are gonna go early and often come draft day.

superman8456
02-26-2010, 02:11 PM
idk about holy crap because a lot of linemen will put up 30+, but yeah that's good. he's turning out to be quite impressive overall.

For a 6'7 dude, 34 reps is damn impressive. There wont be that many other lineman to go over 30.

ToldLikeItIs
02-26-2010, 02:12 PM
Workout freak, bust.

superman
02-26-2010, 02:14 PM
For a 6'7 dude, 34 reps is damn impressive. There wont be that many other lineman to go over 30.
i said he's impressive.

but there's usually 10+ guys a year that break 30.

bored of education
02-26-2010, 02:16 PM
Workout freak, bust.

Bulaga will be better than Joe Thomas.

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:16 PM
Anyone said anything about Charles Brown's hands? Holy crap. 11.5 inches. He has bear paws.

Mr.Regular
02-26-2010, 02:16 PM
Workout freak, bust.
How does that make him an auto bust?
He was no slouch on the field. His pass protection was very good, his run blocking needed some work. He may need some work but hes shown hes a good football player and he has amazing potential. I think hes underrated on this board.

Mr.Regular
02-26-2010, 02:17 PM
i said he's impressive.

but there's usually 10+ guys a year that break 30.

With his long arms though, getting up that high is even more impressive.

bored of education
02-26-2010, 02:17 PM
Anyone said anything about Charles Brown's hands? Holy crap. 11.5 inches. He has bear paws.

I am liking Brown to GB in the 1st.

Pryme
02-26-2010, 02:17 PM
For a 6'7 dude, 34 reps is damn impressive. There wont be that many other lineman to go over 30.

It's even more impressive when you consider the length of his arms. With 36.25 inch arms, that's amazing. Dude's a stud, no doubt raw, but a physical specimen.

superman
02-26-2010, 02:18 PM
where are the results coming from? im watching nfl network and it hasnt showed anybody.

Mr.Regular
02-26-2010, 02:19 PM
I am liking Brown to GB in the 1st.
I like your thinking. Hed be an absolute perfect fit in our system.
Im afraid Seattle wants him though. Huge need at LT, they run a ZBS which Brown is suited for, and of course the Carroll connection. Is it too crazy to throw out Seattle at 14 for Brown?!

Pryme
02-26-2010, 02:20 PM
Okung puts up 225lb 38 times. My jaw is officially on the floor...

Hines
02-26-2010, 02:21 PM
Bulaga will be better than Joe Thomas.

No, no, no, you got it all wrong. Bulaga WILL be better than Anthony Munoz.

Shane P. Hallam
02-26-2010, 02:22 PM
No, no, no, you got it all wrong. Bulaga WILL be better than Anthony Munoz.

Bulaga will be a better QB than Joe Montana.

Hines
02-26-2010, 02:23 PM
Okung benched 225 38 times. Nice.

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:24 PM
I am liking Brown to GB in the 1st.

With his weight up over 300, if he shows upper body power and no decrease in agility or technique from the weight gain he might leapfrog into the top 5 OTs. I thought the Colts might take him but we may not get the chance. Great arm length, hand size, height and weight, and his game spoke for itself at USC.

Okung/Davis 1st and 2nd (no particular order)
Campbell/Bulaga 3rd and 4th (npo)
Is Williams or Brown the 5th best OT?

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:25 PM
I like your thinking. Hed be an absolute perfect fit in our system.
Im afraid Seattle wants him though. Huge need at LT, they run a ZBS which Brown is suited for, and of course the Carroll connection. Is it too crazy to throw out Seattle at 14 for Brown?!

I didn't think about that. You might be right. If Tyson Jackson can be picked 3rd overall, Charles Brown get go 14th.

superman8456
02-26-2010, 02:25 PM
i said he's impressive.

but there's usually 10+ guys a year that break 30.

only 3 offensive tackles broke 30 last year

Mr.Regular
02-26-2010, 02:26 PM
Okung puts up 225lb 38 times. My jaw is officially on the floor...
Wowza. Very impressive especially with his arms.

bored of education
02-26-2010, 02:27 PM
I didn't think about that. You might be right. If Tyson Jackson can be picked 3rd overall, Charles Brown get go 14th.

I was pissed about that because of the 3-4 change I thought Raji was going to be better but Jackson played very solid last year and improved week in week out. It will be telling what step he makes from here forward.

Hines
02-26-2010, 02:27 PM
Charles Brown: 21 reps
Selvish Capers: 19
Mike Iupati: 27
Anthony Davis: 21

Babylon
02-26-2010, 02:29 PM
I am liking Brown to GB in the 1st.

I saw a lot of Brown this year and i think he's overrated. I might change my tune if he puts up a good bench number but he looked soft at the point of attack.

gpngc
02-26-2010, 02:29 PM
Okung for 38- nice....

gpngc
02-26-2010, 02:30 PM
I saw a lot of Brown this year and i think he's overrated. I might change my tune if he puts up a good bench number but he looked soft at the point of attack.

Apparently he met with the Seahawks already on Wed.

I doubt they'll consider him at #14, but you never know - it's more likely they'd look at him at #40.

superman8456
02-26-2010, 02:31 PM
Charles Brown: 21 reps
Selvish Capers: 19
Mike Iupati: 27
Anthony Davis: 21

I'm a little disappointed by that. I thought he was going to put up near the 27+ range.

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:32 PM
Charles Brown: 21 reps
Selvish Capers: 19
Mike Iupati: 27
Anthony Davis: 21

Expected more from Davis. The others are about what I expected. I don't think Iupati is going to be the immediate mauler guard people want him to be. 27 is not horrible at all but I bet most people expected 30+.

I was pissed about that because of the 3-4 change I thought Raji was going to be better but Jackson played very solid last year and improved week in week out. It will be telling what step he makes from here forward.

It might turn out to be a good pick but my point is that no one expected it at all at the time. Some had him graded a 2nd rounder, though closer to draft day he was more up in the 18-25 range. I don't remember anyone calling him a top 5 and very few saying top 10.

DiG
02-26-2010, 02:32 PM
Okung/Davis 1st and 2nd (no particular order)
Campbell/Bulaga 3rd and 4th (npo)
Is Williams or Brown the 5th best OT?

depends on the system. they fit different offenses and project differently imo. williams is a beast RT prospect and brown is a legit lt zbs prospect.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 02:32 PM
Apparently he met with the Seahawks already on Wed.

I doubt they'll consider him at #14, but you never know - it's more likely they'd look at him at #40.

I know they're down there so it would make sense Pete would touch base. He's not one of my favorites but i trust Carroll's judgement. I think 1st round is too high for him.

superman
02-26-2010, 02:32 PM
only 3 offensive tackles broke 30 last year

i believe that. i don't believe only 3 linemen broke it though. guarantee the number is over 10.

Hines
02-26-2010, 02:33 PM
Iupati has long arms, so 27 is pretty good IMO.

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:34 PM
I saw a lot of Brown this year and i think he's overrated. I might change my tune if he puts up a good bench number but he looked soft at the point of attack.

21. Not great. But all that weight is pretty new. I bet he will continue to get stronger. I think a key will be to see if he's retained his agility. If he got bigger, but slower and not that much stronger, he might be worse off than if he'd stayed closer to his playing weight last year.

As a LT do you think his pass protect skills outweigh his run blocking issues?

ToldLikeItIs
02-26-2010, 02:35 PM
Insane for Okung to do that. He does not look even close to strong enough to do that many.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 02:35 PM
Okung benched 225 38 times. Nice.

That's a great number for him. The question i have about him is his mobility. He's answered the strength question.

bored of education
02-26-2010, 02:35 PM
Vlad Ducasse will put up 56 reps!

superman8456
02-26-2010, 02:35 PM
Vlad Ducasse will put up 56 reps!

I bet he disappoints and puts up under 23.

Mr.Regular
02-26-2010, 02:36 PM
I think Brown was underrated all year, but I think I'm one of his biggest fans on the board. He didn't get the recognition because people initially thought he was way too small. His pass protection was suburb, kicking out in run blocking was good, he was really good at the second level IMO and he flashed fantastic athleticism. He didn't have a major push in the run game, but thats not what LT's in the NFL are paid for. And he did bulk up so that can't do anything but improve.

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:36 PM
Iupati has long arms, so 27 is pretty good IMO.

He does, but so does Okung and he got 9 more reps at what, 30 lbs lighter? IMO 27 is solid but I think Iupati has shown at the Senior Bowl and now early at the combine that he isn't the superhero that people have built him up to be. A little overhyped IMO, though still the best OG prospect in the draft.

ToldLikeItIs
02-26-2010, 02:37 PM
Looking at him again, he just doesn't have any bad weight. He's all lean muscle.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 02:37 PM
21. Not great. But all that weight is pretty new. I bet he will continue to get stronger. I think a key will be to see if he's retained his agility. If he got bigger, but slower and not that much stronger, he might be worse off than if he'd stayed closer to his playing weight last year.

As a LT do you think his pass protect skills outweigh his run blocking issues?

I thought the strength issue surfaced in pass blocking too, against Oregon he was getting stuffed by some no name. The fact he was a former TE would make me wonder just how much needed bulk he can add. I wish the kid well just not with my team.

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:38 PM
I think Brown was underrated all year, but I think I'm one of his biggest fans on the board. He didn't get the recognition because people initially thought he was way too small. His pass protection was suburb, kicking out in run blocking was good, he was really good at the second level IMO and he flashed fantastic athleticism. He didn't have a major push in the run game, but thats not what LT's in the NFL are paid for. And he did bulk up so that can't do anything but improve.

He reminds me of Tony Ugoh. Hopefully Brown is not a headcase like Ugoh though.

superman
02-26-2010, 02:38 PM
i believe that. i don't believe only 3 linemen broke it though. guarantee the number is over 10.

http://ingamenow.com/2009-nfl-combine-bench-press-results-tony-fiammetta-reps-30/

thetedginnshow
02-26-2010, 02:38 PM
Okung looks right in a Seahawks jersey.

Hines
02-26-2010, 02:38 PM
Vlad: 29
Mitch Petrus: 45

ToldLikeItIs
02-26-2010, 02:41 PM
What'd Bulaga put up?

Hines
02-26-2010, 02:42 PM
26 I believe.

keylime_5
02-26-2010, 02:43 PM
Bulaga put up ∞ reps

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:43 PM
Vlad: 29
Mitch Petrus: 45

Wow. Just checked, that's the most since 2000.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 02:47 PM
Bulaga put up ∞ reps

????????????

redbills
02-26-2010, 02:47 PM
Hillsdale's Jared Veldheer put up 32 reps
Bruce Campbell - 34, Anthony Davis - 21, Bryan Bulaga - 26, Charles Brown - 21, Vlad Ducasse - 29, Mike Iupati - 27, Selvish Capers - 19
Russell Okung just put up 38 reps
Eric Olsen got 35
Just finished. Did 23 RT @TwizzlasBanter: @ShawnZobel_DHQ has Trent Williams bench yet?

ShawnZobe twitter

Hines
02-26-2010, 02:48 PM
????????????

Infinity. haha

keylime_5
02-26-2010, 02:48 PM
????????????

means infinity

anyone remember how many reps Jake Long put up btw? Joe Thomas?

Shane P. Hallam
02-26-2010, 02:51 PM
means infinity

anyone remember how many reps Jake Long put up btw? Joe Thomas?

Thomas did 28, Long had 37

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:53 PM
Hillsdale's Jared Veldheer put up 32 reps

Really surprised at that one. His shorter arms probably help, but I still didn't expect that strength. It will be really interesting to see what his technique and footwork looks like in drills.

brat316
02-26-2010, 02:53 PM
why are they benching now I thought it was suppose to be tommorw.

killxswitch
02-26-2010, 02:54 PM
why are they benching now I thought it was suppose to be tommorw.

Since it's not really a public event maybe they just decided to be flexible and do it early.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 02:54 PM
Hillsdale's Jared Veldheer put up 32 reps
Bruce Campbell - 34, Anthony Davis - 21, Bryan Bulaga - 26, Charles Brown - 21, Vlad Ducasse - 29, Mike Iupati - 27, Selvish Capers - 19
Russell Okung just put up 38 reps
Eric Olsen got 35
Just finished. Did 23 RT @TwizzlasBanter: @ShawnZobel_DHQ has Trent Williams bench yet?

ShawnZobe twitter

I think anything over 25 is good, down in the low 20s cant be a good thing. High 30s you have to take notice.

Shane P. Hallam
02-26-2010, 02:55 PM
why are they benching now I thought it was suppose to be tommorw.

You were incorrect, It's all split up into groups, O-line and TEs will do everything first.

ToldLikeItIs
02-26-2010, 02:56 PM
How about Calloway?

Babylon
02-26-2010, 02:57 PM
Anthony Davis and Charles Brown at 21. Hurts Davis more i think as he was talked up as a top 10 pick, not sure this helps that case. Brown was expected to be low, he doesnt have a lot of upper body strength to me.(yet)

redbills
02-26-2010, 02:57 PM
Arizona State's Shawn Lauvao and USC's Jeff Byers both put up 33 reps
4 minutes ago via UberTwitter

wonderbredd24
02-26-2010, 03:01 PM
Anthony Davis and Charles Brown at 21. Hurts Davis more i think as he was talked up as a top 10 pick, not sure this helps that case. Brown was expected to be low, he doesnt have a lot of upper body strength to me.(yet)

Unless they plan on dragging a bench to the middle of the field during the game, I think Davis will be fine. He'll do it again at his pro day anyway.

Does Okung with his 38 reps play with more power than Davis and his 21? Not in my opinion

I'm curious what quality of reps these guys are doing, whether they are Larry Allen, full extension man reps or those elbows still bent ****** reps that somehow still count.

BaLLiN
02-26-2010, 03:03 PM
Anthony Davis is starting to seem more and more like William Beatty

YotoJets007
02-26-2010, 03:03 PM
Okung has longest arms and put up 38 reps. Damn. He is locked for top 5 pick easily.

619
02-26-2010, 03:04 PM
Okung has longest arms and put up 38 reps. Damn. He is locked for top 5 pick easily.

My jaw just dropped.....

keylime_5
02-26-2010, 03:08 PM
left tackle is more about film than any other position I think. It sure doesn't hurt putting up 38 reps though. 21's not great, but it's not that bad for a guy who is supposed to have quick feet and be a great pass blocker.

brat316
02-26-2010, 03:15 PM
You were incorrect, It's all split up into groups, O-line and TEs will do everything first.

NFL.com lies.

Addict
02-26-2010, 03:21 PM
Okung has longest arms and put up 38 reps. Damn. He is locked for top 5 pick easily.

keep in mind it does not change his game tape.

McGahee
02-26-2010, 03:22 PM
Does anyone remember what Alex Smith's hand size was? ...for comparison sakes

Babylon
02-26-2010, 03:24 PM
Okung has longest arms and put up 38 reps. Damn. He is locked for top 5 pick easily.

I'd need to see what kind of mobility he had, feet are the most important thing for an O-lineman to me. Cant hurt though can it?

Babylon
02-26-2010, 03:27 PM
Unless they plan on dragging a bench to the middle of the field during the game, I think Davis will be fine. He'll do it again at his pro day anyway.

Does Okung with his 38 reps play with more power than Davis and his 21? Not in my opinion

I'm curious what quality of reps these guys are doing, whether they are Larry Allen, full extension man reps or those elbows still bent ****** reps that somehow still count.


I agree on tape not lying. The only thing i would say about my comment about Davis is to keep it in the context of him going in the top half dozen picks or so as some have suggested.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 03:28 PM
Does anyone remember what Alex Smith's hand size was? ...for comparison sakes

I want to say an 8. that was the issue with him, holding onto the ball.

Shane P. Hallam
02-26-2010, 03:37 PM
I want to say an 8. that was the issue with him, holding onto the ball.

Yup, 8 and a half.

YotoJets007
02-26-2010, 03:48 PM
I'd need to see what kind of mobility he had, feet are the most important thing for an O-lineman to me. Cant hurt though can it?

yeah.. Okung's current weaknesses are leg drive and balls. He played less than finesse.

wicket
02-26-2010, 03:53 PM
anybody know what sam young pressed?

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 03:55 PM
Presicitions on how many reps suh will put up? I say 42

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 03:55 PM
oops predictions

YotoJets007
02-26-2010, 04:00 PM
Petrus did 45 reps... wow.

LonghornsLegend
02-26-2010, 04:00 PM
Unless they plan on dragging a bench to the middle of the field during the game, I think Davis will be fine. He'll do it again at his pro day anyway.

Does Okung with his 38 reps play with more power than Davis and his 21? Not in my opinion

I'm curious what quality of reps these guys are doing, whether they are Larry Allen, full extension man reps or those elbows still bent ****** reps that somehow still count.


Well it's not like they are doing the bench somewhere private, somebody is standing over them watching and if they don't extend enough it doesn't count. There all judged by the same measures and technique.


Also maybe Okung doesn't "play" with more power then Davis, but there is a pretty huge difference in overall strength at the next level between 21 reps and 38, granted you have to look at what their strengths and weaknesses are and compare it with film, but there is a big difference in strength between the two.

YotoJets007
02-26-2010, 04:05 PM
Well it's not like they are doing the bench somewhere private, somebody is standing over them watching and if they don't extend enough it doesn't count. There all judged by the same measures and technique.


yeah. Bar must touch chest also.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 04:23 PM
Presicitions on how many reps suh will put up? I say 42

Really nothing to be gained for him to risk an injury, i'd throw out 32.

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 04:26 PM
Really nothing to be gained for him to risk an injury, i'd throw out 32.

True. But in his draft journey video he said he was ready to go all out at the combine, so maybe that means on the bench press too.

superman8456
02-26-2010, 04:30 PM
Well it's not like they are doing the bench somewhere private, somebody is standing over them watching and if they don't extend enough it doesn't count. There all judged by the same measures and technique.


I saw some of Petrus reps and he didnt get the full elbow extension. Not saying they dont count or whatever, but it is a little easier.

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 04:33 PM
Suh just doesnt seem like the guy who is gonna post a decent number on the bench, I seem him as a guy who wants to continue to impress.

Babylon
02-26-2010, 04:38 PM
I saw some of Petrus reps and he didnt get the full elbow extension. Not saying they dont count or whatever, but it is a little easier.

Wasnt that the knock on USC players last year? Personally i look at the results and dont try to read anything into it.

bitonti
02-26-2010, 04:48 PM
bench press results are an indicator of weight room commitment, not necessarily functional football strength. All of these guys can bench way more than 225.

Petrus 45 and Okung 38 prove they work hard and have the stamina to do it all 4 quarters.

Anthony Davis 21 Selvish Capers 19 marginally acceptable to play football, but the scouts know these guys aren't in weight room as much as the high-rep players.

regoob2
02-26-2010, 04:53 PM
I have a hard time believing his playing weight in 2008 was 225. I've heard rumors that he's out of shape and I guess we'll be seeing in a couple days. By his Pro Day I'd like to see him between 215 and 220. Just to let you know, his 34" arms at only 6020 are longer than most Tight Ends and more than a handful of Offensive Tackles. Those arms and his leaping ability allow him to play taller than he is and appear 6'3-6'4 on the field.
I wouldnt be surprised if Bryant lost weight. He was always carrying a few extra pounds.

Mike Williams has always been big and strong. That doesnt surprise me at all. He's going to be a steal.

Bills2083
02-26-2010, 05:02 PM
Anthony Davis is starting to seem more and more like William Beatty

Is this a good or bad thing?

619
02-26-2010, 05:03 PM
Is this a good or bad thing?

Neither. They're nothing alike.

Phillysteeler
02-26-2010, 05:04 PM
Does anybody know if Petrus is good as a blocker? I don't know much about him but the 45 reps intrigued me. I also didn't know Preston Parker was in this draft. He wasn't that great at Florida State but he was used in a number of ways there and his versatility and athleticism could help him. Anybody think he will end up a late round pick or is he an undrafted free agent?

batsandgats
02-26-2010, 05:09 PM
he is a good blocker. He was originally a tight end coming into college so he has some athleticism to go along with that power (he actually played some fullback in college). Hes projected anywhere from the 2nd to the 4th.

Phillysteeler
02-26-2010, 05:20 PM
He sounds like a solid player. I wouldn't mind the Steelers picking him up in the second or third if they don't go with Iupati in the first.

Giantsfan1080
02-26-2010, 05:25 PM
I don't see the Davis and Beatty comparison. The thing that might hurt Davis that scout and GM's are going to think he's lazy which has haunted him his whole college career. He's still Top 10 guy to me though.

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 05:25 PM
Well Dez Bryant isnt going to workout now, I was really exciting to see him workout. SOme hammy issue

SeanTaylorRIP
02-26-2010, 05:27 PM
Nice 34 reps for Bruce after measuring in at over 6-6" and I believe around the longest arms. If he really does run in the 4.8's like it's been reported, damn another freak athlete from MD, although you could already tell that from watching him in games. The Maryland strength and conditioning program deserves a gold medal.

contento
02-26-2010, 05:28 PM
Bench Reps mean next to nothing.


Here's a list of top performers from 07...a lot of studs in there, huh?

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=09000d5d806ceaab&template=with-video&confirm=true

Addict
02-26-2010, 05:30 PM
Well Dez Bryant isnt going to workout now, I was really exciting to see him workout. SOme hammy issue

yeah right. Just like all those other guys he probably injured his cervix cavity.

wonderbredd24
02-26-2010, 05:33 PM
Nice 34 reps for Bruce after measuring in at over 6-6" and I believe around the longest arms. If he really does run in the 4.8's like it's been reported, damn another freak athlete from MD, although you could already tell that from watching him in games. The Maryland strength and conditioning program deserves a gold medal.
regards,

Steroids

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 05:33 PM
hahahahahahaha

BuddyCHRIST
02-26-2010, 05:46 PM
Does anybody know if Petrus is good as a blocker? I don't know much about him but the 45 reps intrigued me. I also didn't know Preston Parker was in this draft. He wasn't that great at Florida State but he was used in a number of ways there and his versatility and athleticism could help him. Anybody think he will end up a late round pick or is he an undrafted free agent?

Parker was great his sophomore year, the best player on FSU's offense that year. He was injured and inconsistent his Junior year but he's still a solid football player who has great hands and will work hard. But obviously he has off the field issues, will be lucky to be drafted.

RaiderNation
02-26-2010, 05:53 PM
Looking more and more likely Campbell will be a raider :(

superman
02-26-2010, 06:02 PM
Does anybody know if Petrus is good as a blocker? I don't know much about him but the 45 reps intrigued me. I also didn't know Preston Parker was in this draft. He wasn't that great at Florida State but he was used in a number of ways there and his versatility and athleticism could help him. Anybody think he will end up a late round pick or is he an undrafted free agent?

preston is definitely a wild card. maybe a poor man's harvin, which would be a very good late pick.

superman8456
02-26-2010, 06:02 PM
Looking more and more likely Campbell will be a raider :(

At least its not the worst that could happen. The worst that could happen would be you get JPP.

ThePudge
02-26-2010, 06:04 PM
At least its not the worst that could happen. The worst that could happen would be you get JPP.

Please tell me how Campbell is remotely close to Pierre-Paul as a prospect.

_YL_
02-26-2010, 06:06 PM
Welcome to the Raiders Bruce Campbell number 74 will be waiting.

EvilNixon
02-26-2010, 06:08 PM
If Bruce can run a sub 4.9 forty, I am going to be happy to see in in Silver and Black.

Addict
02-26-2010, 06:14 PM
If Bruce can run a sub 4.4 forty, I am going to be happy to see in in Silver and Black.

fixed it for you

Caddy
02-26-2010, 06:23 PM
If Bruce can run a sub 4.9 forty, I am going to be happy to see in in Silver and Black.

How does a sub 4.9 forty help an offensive lineman?

Babylon
02-26-2010, 06:27 PM
How does a sub 4.9 forty help an offensive lineman?

Unless an O-lineman is running around a 5.4 forty i'm not concerned. Footwork and balance is much more important.

niel89
02-26-2010, 06:29 PM
Bench Reps mean next to nothing.


Here's a list of top performers from 07...a lot of studs in there, huh?

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=09000d5d806ceaab&template=with-video&confirm=true

This is all we got right now! But in reality these bench reps mean very little in the long run.

EvilNixon
02-26-2010, 06:41 PM
How does a sub 4.9 forty help an offensive lineman?

Give him the elite triangle numbers Al loves.

Hines
02-26-2010, 07:09 PM
Andrew Quarless is going to end up making a lot of money this weekend.

Grizzlegom
02-26-2010, 08:59 PM
Andrew Quarless is going to end up making a lot of money this weekend.

I've been saying that for months, without the off-field issues, he could be a second round pick, even with them i think he's gonna shoot up to the 4th round this weekend.

Go_Eagles77
02-26-2010, 09:38 PM
Since Trindon Holliday did the bench today does that mean he's running the 40 tomorrow?

Unbiased
02-26-2010, 09:59 PM
Give him the elite triangle numbers Al loves.

Did Gallery have a good 40 time for a lineman? Or is he the exception.

energizerbunny
02-26-2010, 10:16 PM
Bench Reps mean next to nothing.


Here's a list of top performers from 07...a lot of studs in there, huh?

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=09000d5d806ceaab&template=with-video&confirm=true


The only time bench means anything is if its extreme, either positively or negatively.

With that said bench press alone has never gotten anyone draft. Anyone remember Mike Kudla?

RaiderNation
02-26-2010, 10:16 PM
5dsIUKe5p0k

Thats doesnt look like a OT to me lol

energizerbunny
02-26-2010, 10:22 PM
Did Gallery have a good 40 time for a lineman? Or is he the exception.

Gallery was the total package, I think he ran around a 4.9 or high 4.8
He did have slightly shorter arms then you'd expect from a 6'7 dude.... I think they were only around 32 and change.

energizerbunny
02-26-2010, 10:27 PM
5dsIUKe5p0k

Thats doesnt look like a OT to me lol

Gone are the days of sloppy fat dudes on the lines.

Programs have began training their big guys like the track and field guys have been training their guys for years.

Although there may be a little extra "stuff" in the water at Maryland.

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 10:45 PM
Id be stoked to get bruce campbell, unlike all the guys Al davis has been picking he actually has a future!

OregonDucks
02-26-2010, 10:46 PM
Haha trindon getting 10 reps. He looks like a pretty strong dude, hes very compact and has short arms. You'd think he'd get more than that.

JoeJoeBrown
02-26-2010, 11:36 PM
Gone are the days of sloppy fat dudes on the lines.

Programs have began training their big guys like the track and field guys have been training their guys for years.

Although there may be a little extra "stuff" in the water at Maryland.

I think there is a little extra "stuff" in the water in every big time football player's lunchbox.

FUNBUNCHER
02-27-2010, 12:08 AM
Bruce Campbell is a mutant, don't know if he's from the state of Maryland as a prep, but if Friedgen could keep all the top Maryland recruits in state, he'd have won a national championship by now.

Vernon Davis only gained 20# at UMD, so in book he's a legit freakazi.

Merriman is the one who was a 170# HS sophomore who 'grew' to 255# by his sophomore year in college.

Someone is going to overdraft Campbell in the top 10, possibly top 5, based on his raw potential.

His physique at 315 is ridiculous!!

cajuncorey
02-27-2010, 12:21 AM
Bruce Campbell is a mutant, don't know if he's from the state of Maryland as a prep, but if Friedgen could keep all the top Maryland recruits in state, he'd have won a national championship by now.

Vernon Davis only gained 20# at UMD, so in book he's a legit freakazi.

Merriman is the one who was a 170# HS sophomore who 'grew' to 255# by his sophomore year in college.

Someone is going to overdraft Campbell in the top 10, possibly top 5, based on his raw potential.

His physique at 315 is ridiculous!!

dont forget adam podlesh... the punter that ran a 4.4 forty time lol

BroadwayJoe10
02-27-2010, 12:43 AM
Haha trindon getting 10 reps. He looks like a pretty strong dude, hes very compact and has short arms. You'd think he'd get more than that.

For what it's worth, at 5'5" 160lbs (did they not weigh him in at the combine??) benching 225, 65 lbs over your body weight, 10 times is not all that terrible.

Look for instance at the TEs. Gresham and a lot of those boys only put up 20 reps, when they weigh in the 240-260 range. I'd put good money that Holliday could put up 160 20+ times. I'd say he's pound for pound up there in strength with the rest of those guys, just he's lacking a ton of LBs haha.

metafour
02-27-2010, 02:02 AM
Gresham and a lot of those boys only put up 20 reps, when they weigh in the 240-260 range.

That is a bad comparison, because you have to look at "weight" relative to height/structure. Just because Holiday weighs 160lbs; doesn't mean that lifting 160lbs is what he should be measured in, or that someone who weighs more than that should automatically be able to lift more.

Addict
02-27-2010, 05:20 AM
remind me, isn't 45 reps some kind of record?

Jim Jim
02-27-2010, 05:44 AM
No. It tied the record.

superman
02-27-2010, 06:30 AM
For what it's worth, at 5'5" 160lbs (did they not weigh him in at the combine??) benching 225, 65 lbs over your body weight, 10 times is not all that terrible.

Look for instance at the TEs. Gresham and a lot of those boys only put up 20 reps, when they weigh in the 240-260 range. I'd put good money that Holliday could put up 160 20+ times. I'd say he's pound for pound up there in strength with the rest of those guys, just he's lacking a ton of LBs haha.

yeah i was gonna point that out too. 65+ bodyweight 10 times isn't bad.

superman
02-27-2010, 07:05 AM
so is trindon holiday running today because he's a specialist? or will he with the wr's or rb's.

nhlkdog411
02-27-2010, 07:47 AM
For what it's worth, at 5'5" 160lbs (did they not weigh him in at the combine??) benching 225, 65 lbs over your body weight, 10 times is not all that terrible.

Look for instance at the TEs. Gresham and a lot of those boys only put up 20 reps, when they weigh in the 240-260 range. I'd put good money that Holliday could put up 160 20+ times. I'd say he's pound for pound up there in strength with the rest of those guys, just he's lacking a ton of LBs haha.

This is true but as the guy said he just LOOKS like he is strong enough to do more..I'm a similar size 5'6'' 150 and I can do it 10-11 times...I'm not saying its bad but we do expect more from people going into the NFL.

draftguru151
02-27-2010, 07:55 AM
Gone are the days of sloppy fat dudes on the lines.

Programs have began training their big guys like the track and field guys have been training their guys for years.

Although there may be a little extra "stuff" in the water at Maryland.

http://tonybruno.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/andre-smith.jpg

Shane P. Hallam
02-27-2010, 07:55 AM
Cody is down to 354, good for him. Steelers did interview Iupati! Still doubt it happens, but I hope.

Some interview notes from @MoveTheSticks:

"Pouncey has been really good in the team interviews...Mixed reviews on Anthony Davis and Trent Williams. Okung is helping himself"

"A lot of teams are hoping Gresham falls in their lap... He is going to go higher than people think"

"Bulaga has helped himself... Bigger than expected... Arm-length good enough. Impressive in interviews with teams"

Hines
02-27-2010, 08:10 AM
I like Iupati, but I think I would rather go with a true T and move Colon to RG.

Kindle and Dunlap weigh in smaller than what they were listed.

UKfan
02-27-2010, 08:11 AM
What did Campbell run have they said? Am watching but possibly missed the 40 time?

redbills
02-27-2010, 08:15 AM
Unofficial Times
A.Davis - 5.38
V.Ducasse - 5.21
M.Iupati - 5.26

Scotty D
02-27-2010, 08:16 AM
4.27 for Trindon!

UKfan
02-27-2010, 08:16 AM
Trindon Holliday, unofficial 4.27

redbills
02-27-2010, 08:16 AM
T.Holliday - 4.27