Randy Moss, Deal Very Close

[Pocket]

KNBR is reporting that the Raiders and Packers have reached a tentative agreement on compensation for Randy Moss. But the entire thing is contingent upon Moss (and his agent) ability or willingness to restructure his current contract into something the Packers are more comfortable with and can absorb.

The particulars of the deal weren't discussed, but it has been rumored that the Raiders would get a 2nd round pick in 2007 and an additional pick in 2008.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

That sounds a lot like the rumor I saw last week..

[Vince Lombardi]

yea nothing new here. I would rather we didn't give up anymore than a 3rd, we could throw in KGB to sweeten the pot.

[LonghornsLegend]

maybe this is going to happen, green bay would have a pretty sick WR core

[bsaza2358]

So weird that Moss could go to GB, where he was a hated and hunted man for so many years.

[Shiver]

I am thrilled about this. Because now there is no way Calvin Johnson falls to Tampa Bay.

[RaiderLifer]

Please get it done Al

[toonsterwu]

I think this is a bad deal. Why? Has nothing to do with Moss really (at least, not directly). Just that, in giving up their 2nd, they somewhat limit their flexibility if they want to move up in the draft. For example, say Adrian Peterson falls as many still speculate. Green Bay really needs a running back ... but without a 2nd, they'll be hardpressed to shoot up to grab him. Or let's say Adrian Peterson comes off. They'll be a bit more hardpressed to jump before Buffalo to grab Marshawn Lynch (although I guess the first/3rd and another pick could get them into San Francisco's spot). In short, I think it limits their options in the draft.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

I'd like to see the link, I think it IS the same article from last week.

[toonsterwu]

I am thrilled about this. Because now there is no way Calvin Johnson falls to Tampa Bay.

Why is there no way? Raiders still would need a QB, and 2/3 scenarios haven't really changed.

[hugepunch]

i hope it happens i would like to see randy moss rejuvenate his career and get back to his hall of fame form.

[Shiver]

Why is there no way? Raiders still would need a QB, and 2/3 scenarios haven't really changed.

I was assuming they were getting Rodgers as part of it. That may or may not be true, so I spoke to soon.

[PACKmanN]

I think this is a bad deal. Why? Has nothing to do with Moss really (at least, not directly). Just that, in giving up their 2nd, they somewhat limit their flexibility if they want to move up in the draft. For example, say Adrian Peterson falls as many still speculate. Green Bay really needs a running back ... but without a 2nd, they'll be hardpressed to shoot up to grab him. Or let's say Adrian Peterson comes off. They'll be a bit more hardpressed to jump before Buffalo to grab Marshawn Lynch (although I guess the first/3rd and another pick could get them into San Francisco's spot). In short, I think it limits their options in the draft.

wrong. Our GM will never trade up and i mean never. He can simply draft Lynch or trade back get an extra second and draft Olsen. If we have a good passing attack less teams will have 7 ppl in the box which will allow us to run. Good example is the Clots.

[Shiver]

I think this is a bad deal. Why? Has nothing to do with Moss really (at least, not directly). Just that, in giving up their 2nd, they somewhat limit their flexibility if they want to move up in the draft. For example, say Adrian Peterson falls as many still speculate. Green Bay really needs a running back ... but without a 2nd, they'll be hardpressed to shoot up to grab him. Or let's say Adrian Peterson comes off. They'll be a bit more hardpressed to jump before Buffalo to grab Marshawn Lynch (although I guess the first/3rd and another pick could get them into San Francisco's spot). In short, I think it limits their options in the draft.


I cannot remember the last time Ted Thompson traded up in round 1, so I don't know if that was the plan this go around.

[Flyboy]

I am thrilled about this. Because now there is no way Calvin Johnson falls to Tampa Bay.

Preach on, Shiver. Keep CJ out of the NFC South!

Unless the Saints draft him.

[Flyboy]

I was assuming they were getting Rodgers as part of it. That may or may not be true, so I spoke to soon.

The new trade rumor I'm hearing doesn't involve Rodgers but rather KGB or Corey Williams.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Took me forever and a day, but I found this in the Raider forum, posted March 1st:

KNBR is reporting that the Raiders and Packers have reached a tentative agreement on compensation for Randy Moss. But the entire thing is contingent upon Moss (and his agent) ability or willingness to restructure his current contract into something the Packers are more comfortable with and can absorb.

The particulars of the deal weren't discussed, but it has been rumoured that the Raiders would get a 2nd round pick in 2007 and an additional pick in 2008

[Vince Lombardi]

Took me forever and a day, but I found this in the Raider forum, posted March 1st:

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ummm, that's exactly what's in the first post.....:confused:

[Windy]

it's the same rumor that has been going around and people who have been posting it probably dont even know what knbr is. it just makes it sound better.

[bigbluedefense]

They run the WCO...isn't Randy Moss in the WCO kind of counterintuitive?

Theyre better off getting one of these young promising WRs in the draft. They have a nice young unit so far, they don't want to ruin their progress with a potential lockerroom cancer.

Moss should go to a team that is missing the one key link to being top tier. He'd look good in a Jags uniform. Especially with Leftwich's cannon.

[toonsterwu]

I know Ted Thompson's recent history when in charge of personnel. Even dating to his Seattle days, when he was largely in charge of the draft, with Holmgren getting final say, I know he's never been a part of a deal up that I can remember. If this trade does go down (and sarf's finding the original post may make this thread to be dated ... after all, Journal-Sentinel reported this morning of the Raiders interest in KGB and Corey Williams), that would certainly impact the ability to move up.

Here's my case as to why it's not impossible. Thompson's built a solid core, but what he really lacks on that teams is top level talent. He's not going to find that top level talent by consistently dealing back. There's two ways of building through the draft:

a) getting top talent initially, then building the core later
b) getting the core first, and adding the top talent later so that they don't go through long developmental struggles

To suggest that any team is welded to the idea of not doing something is probably a bit of a reach. Certainly, teams have their habits and preferences, and that always plays a role. That being said, to say something is set in stone "wrong" is unrealistic. If they do make a move for Moss, what that sends is a signal that they are legitimately trying to make one final push under Favre. Waiting for a 2nd round RB and whatever mediocrity that can be found in FA, along with the amazing trio of Noah Herron, Vernand Morency, and PJ Pope, doesn't seem to coordinate with that philosophy.

It's too early to diminish any factor, IMO. What Thompson likes best is options and versatility. I don't believe he is welded to the idea of never dealing up, as is somewhat implicitly implied by many.

[bigbluedefense]

I know Ted Thompson's recent history when in charge of personnel. Even dating to his Seattle days, when he was largely in charge of the draft, with Holmgren getting final say, I know he's never been a part of a deal up that I can remember. If this trade does go down (and sarf's finding the original post may make this thread to be dated ... after all, Journal-Sentinel reported this morning of the Raiders interest in KGB and Corey Williams), that would certainly impact the ability to move up.

Here's my case as to why it's not impossible. Thompson's built a solid core, but what he really lacks on that teams is top level talent. He's not going to find that top level talent by consistently dealing back. There's two ways of building through the draft:

a) getting top talent initially, then building the core later
b) getting the core first, and adding the top talent later so that they don't go through long developmental struggles

To suggest that any team is welded to the idea of not doing something is probably a bit of a reach. Certainly, teams have their habits and preferences, and that always plays a role. That being said, to say something is set in stone "wrong" is unrealistic. If they do make a move for Moss, what that sends is a signal that they are legitimately trying to make one final push under Favre. Waiting for a 2nd round RB and whatever mediocrity that can be found in FA, along with the amazing trio of Noah Herron, Vernand Morency, and PJ Pope, doesn't seem to coordinate with that philosophy.

It's too early to diminish any factor, IMO. What Thompson likes best is options and versatility. I don't believe he is welded to the idea of never dealing up, as is somewhat implicitly implied by many.

Its always good to here from Toonster. I learn something with every post.

[Mr. Myogi]

Why is there no way? Raiders still would need a QB, and 2/3 scenarios haven't really changed.

We're just hopeing that the Raiders strike a deal for Schaub (maybe a 2nd and 3rd -since they are seeking a 2nd in the trade they could risk one) after they trade Moss and then draft CJ.

That way, The Falcons don't have to face him twice a year.

[eacantdraft]

maybe this is going to happen, green bay would have a pretty sick WR core

Sick as in declining skills and injury prone Moss?

[Flyboy]

Sick as in declining skills and injury prone Moss?

Moss/Driver/Jennings doesn't sound too bad on paper at all.

[bearsfan_51]

yea nothing new here. I would rather we didn't give up anymore than a 3rd, we could throw in KGB to sweeten the pot.
If by sweeten the pot you mean make it smell like **** I would agree. Nobody wants your garbage, not even the Raiders.

[bigbluedefense]

If by sweeten the pot you mean make it smell like **** I would agree. Nobody wants your garbage, not even the Raiders.

I was waiting for you to say something like that. The Packers trigger something in you, you always take a shot at em, lol.

[bearsfan_51]

I was waiting for you to say something like that. The Packers trigger something in you, you always take a shot at em, lol.

Oh I like Vince. I just find it incredibly unrealistic that KGB would have the value to bump it from a 2nd pick down to a 3rd.

Now, maybe a 2nd and KGB instead of a 2nd and a conditional 2008 pick I could see.

Packers fans seem stuck to the idea that they aren't going to give up a 2nd round pick. It's going to happen exactly how I predicted in the Moss thread. If they can pull it off for less than the value of a 2nd I will give them the ol' Tip O' the Hat. But I doubt it.

[ny10804]

If the Packers were to offer a player, the source said the Raiders wouldn't have any interest in quarterback Aaron Rodgers but indicated that defensive end Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila or defensive tackle Corey Williams might have considerable appeal to them. The Packers insist Rodgers isn't available, anyway.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=576312

I'll give my prediction right now:

Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila and a third round draft pick.

[Splat]

The last three years.

Randy Moss

49 catches 767 yards 13 TD's
60 catches 1005 yards 8 TD's
42 catches 553 yards 3 TD's

Eddie Kennison

62 cathces 1086 yards 8 TD's
68 catches 1102 yards 5 TD's
53 catches 860 yards 5 TD's

And people still want to say Moss is one of the better WR's in the NFL why???

[lod01]

They run the WCO...isn't Randy Moss in the WCO kind of counterintuitive?

Theyre better off getting one of these young promising WRs in the draft. They have a nice young unit so far, they don't want to ruin their progress with a potential lockerroom cancer.

Moss should go to a team that is missing the one key link to being top tier. He'd look good in a Jags uniform. Especially with Leftwich's cannon.

Driver west coast on one side, Jennings west coast on the other side in the slot, Moss....just run towards the end zone in case Favre is looking for a TD. It's a fit for Favre. Just ask him. FAVRE!!!!!!!!

[eacantdraft]

Amazing how 65% of Green Bay fans polled don't want Moss. If Moss is traded to Green Bay and is out of line once, Thompson may find himself in the unemployment line.

[PACKmanN]

The last three years.

Randy Moss

49 catches 767 yards 13 TD's
60 catches 1005 yards 8 TD's
42 catches 553 yards 3 TD's

Eddie Kennison

62 cathces 1086 yards 8 TD's
68 catches 1102 yards 5 TD's
53 catches 860 yards 5 TD's

And people still want to say Moss is one of the better WR's in the NFL why???
yet when he had a ok qb in Oakland he manged to put up 1000 yards and maybe he was hurt for 3 games the year before thats why he only has 767 yards oh by the way if u think Collins and Walter are better qb then Green there something wrong with u.

[Splat]

Believe what you want the guy doesn't even try unless he knows the ball is coming to him he takes plays off left and right and won't go over the middle. GB fans can think and hope all they want that they are getting Moss of 5 or 6th years ago but not going to happen. You better win your first 3 games or he will call it a season and just pack it in like he did with the Raiders.

[Caddy]

I'll believe it when I see it

[Vince Lombardi]

If by sweeten the pot you mean make it smell like **** I would agree. Nobody wants your garbage, not even the Raiders.

Well that comment was mostly tongue in cheek, I was thinking it would sweeten the pot for us. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif

[frogstomp]

The last three years.

Randy Moss

49 catches 767 yards 13 TD's
60 catches 1005 yards 8 TD's
42 catches 553 yards 3 TD's

Eddie Kennison

62 cathces 1086 yards 8 TD's
68 catches 1102 yards 5 TD's
53 catches 860 yards 5 TD's

And people still want to say Moss is one of the better WR's in the NFL why???

Moss probably played in about 2/3 of the games as Kennison, and he *still* had 6 more TD's.

Moss had no reason to try. He was on a horrible team, he had a horrible QB, and he was injured.

Now, he has a QB he has said he respects, a QB that can throw the deep ball, and a team that could be over .500.

[princefielder28]

I don't know if I like the 2nd rounder but I trust TT

[PACKmanN]

Believe what you want the guy doesn't even try unless he knows the ball is coming to him he takes plays off left and right and won't go over the middle. GB fans can think and hope all they want that they are getting Moss of 5 or 6th years ago but not going to happen. You better win your first 3 games or he will call it a season and just pack it in like he did with the Raiders.
I dont see that happening, Moss has to respect the team because he has Favre thorwing him the ball and his contract is only for 2 years so if he doenst fell like he wants to play we still have talent behind him that we can use and he can be cut.

[Splat]

Moss has to respect the team

Are we still talking about the same player? I'm a Chiefs fan but have always liked GB so I hope it works out for you guys I'm just saying don't hold your breath.

[slightlyaraiderfan]

The last three years.

Randy Moss

49 catches 767 yards 13 TD's
60 catches 1005 yards 8 TD's
42 catches 553 yards 3 TD's

Eddie Kennison

62 cathces 1086 yards 8 TD's
68 catches 1102 yards 5 TD's
53 catches 860 yards 5 TD's

And people still want to say Moss is one of the better WR's in the NFL why???
His first year in Oakland, he was leading the league in receiving...until he got hurt and was never the same after that. Last year, he was in that sad excuse for an NFL offense. Amazing he stilll got 42 catches.

[GB12]

Amazing how 65% of Green Bay fans polled don't want Moss. If Moss is traded to Green Bay and is out of line once, Thompson may find himself in the unemployment line.

That's BS. Those "fans" probably just watch Packer games with their wives and then don't follow the rest of it(offseason, draft, etc.). And i expect that many of them were also thinking that Gado would be the starter for years to come. TT won't change his mind just because those fans are more concerned with not having Moss than winning. Even if he Moss comes to Green Bay and still has problems TT better not and will not get fired.

[someone447]

Hey, I was hoping Gado COULD be the starter for years to come. But I knew it was a pipe dream. How awesome would that story have been?

[GB12]

Hey, I was hoping Gado COULD be the starter for years to come. But I knew it was a pipe dream. How awesome would that story have been?

I never bought into it and I never liked him. Sure good story, but that's it. He doesn't have good speed, not good power, not great vision, hands eh, really he was very lucky that he had that kind of success. The Morency trade was a complete steal.

[someone447]

I was waiting for you to say something like that. The Packers trigger something in you, you always take a shot at em, lol.

Good, it isn't only packer fans that have realized this. I find him to be one of the least homerist posters on this board, except when it comes to the Packers. Even when he talks about the bears he is fine, but if it is about the packers, it is the most homer poster on this board.

[neko4]

The last three years.

Randy Moss

49 catches 767 yards 13 TD's
60 catches 1005 yards 8 TD's
42 catches 553 yards 3 TD's

Eddie Kennison

62 cathces 1086 yards 8 TD's
68 catches 1102 yards 5 TD's
53 catches 860 yards 5 TD's

And people still want to say Moss is one of the better WR's in the NFL why???

Green and Huard or Collins and Walter, Kennison has a better QB plain as that

[jackalope]

please, no, i really don't want him.

[LonghornsLegend]

Believe what you want the guy doesn't even try unless he knows the ball is coming to him he takes plays off left and right and won't go over the middle. GB fans can think and hope all they want that they are getting Moss of 5 or 6th years ago but not going to happen. You better win your first 3 games or he will call it a season and just pack it in like he did with the Raiders.

i dont understand your point of posting those stats though, i know your not arguingg eddie kennison is better then randy moss, or anywhere near as good....


everyone seems to forget he was playing in oakland, so why would you hold those stats against him? he cant run deep routes like he did in minny because they dont have time, then they are playing musical chairs with qb's, playingg with a rookie at qb, no o line....


posting that was useless, everyone keeps crying about "decling player" like marvin harrison is 23 years old, randy moss still have 4 REALLY good years left in him, but dont hold what oakland has done on offense all on him

[dictator of logic]

Compare Moss to Ronald Curry, you might be suprised.

[Komp]

Moss can still be good if he wants to play. That is a big "if" tho...

Hopefully this deal gets done.

[TitleTown088]

If by sweeten the pot you mean make it smell like **** I would agree. Nobody wants your garbage, not even the Raiders.

The Raiders have expressed interst in KGB and Corey Williams according to the latest article that made this trade speculation pop up agian, but yeah, your right.




******* For Packer fans... For anyone who would like to see moss or not see moss in GB you can call this number and take the poll to be reviewed by Bob Harlan himself...( call during hours of course) Apparently the poll is in favor of the Packers landing moss according to the lady who was on the phone conducting the poll with me. &*%#$

920.569.7500 Green bay Packers Front office.. SAY NO!

This proves that they are seriously considering moss. I mean the Packers FO has a hotline set up.

I don't know how much longer this poll will be avialable b/c the last time I called they said to just send a fax or letter because of the mass amount of calls they were recieving.

[doingthisinsteadofwork]

That sounds a lot like the rumor I saw last week..

yeah im pretty sure thats the exact same rumor.

[keylime_5]

I am thrilled about this. Because now there is no way Calvin Johnson falls to Tampa Bay.

After Russell's good workout today and the fact that QB is about 100x more important of a position than WR, I wouldn't doubt that Oakland stays with Russell even if they get rid of Moss

[Shiver]

After Russell's good workout today and the fact that QB is about 100x more important of a position than WR, I wouldn't doubt that Oakland stays with Russell even if they get rid of Moss

Yeah, I was being optimistic. A man can dream!

[princefielder28]

After Russell's good workout today and the fact that QB is about 100x more important of a position than WR, I wouldn't doubt that Oakland stays with Russell even if they get rid of Moss

Yeah but name the last WR prospect as good as Calvin Johnson.................keep thinking

[soybean]

andre johnson?

[neko4]

Randy Moss?!?!?!?

[Smokey Joe]

I hope Moss returns to the NFC North... Charles Tillman could once again own him.

[skinzzfan25]

Good, don't want him to go to Tampa. They are practically in our division because we play them almost every year -_-.

[GB12]

I hope Moss returns to the NFC North... Charles Tillman could once again own him.

Driver, Moss, and Jennings against Tillman, Vasher, and manning.

Good match up.

[jackalope]

The Raiders have expressed interst in KGB and Corey Williams according to the latest article that made this trade speculation pop up agian, but yeah, your right.




******* For Packer fans... For anyone who would like to see moss or not see moss in GB you can call this number and take the poll to be reviewed by Bob Harlan himself...( call during hours of course) Apparently the poll is in favor of the Packers landing moss according to the lady who was on the phone conducting the poll with me. &*%#$

920.569.7500 Green bay Packers Front office.. SAY NO!

This proves that they are seriously considering moss. I mean the Packers FO has a hotline set up.

I don't know how much longer this poll will be avialable b/c the last time I called they said to just send a fax or letter because of the mass amount of calls they were recieving.i'm gonna try calling that.

[OhioState]

i won't believe it until it is official

[neko4]

i won't believe it until it is official

Good for you, too be bad nobody anounced a trade yet. A "deal" of sorts has been made but that hasnt been made official
I also tried calling

[TitleTown088]

Driver, Moss, and Jennings against Tillman, Vasher, and manning.

Good match up. I got a feeling that if the Packers aquire moss they would be running alot of that 4 reciever set we saw last year. Driver, Moss, Jennings, Robinson/Martin = nasty. Too bad the Packers have ****** TEs.

However, despite my pipe dreams I will still not support a randy Moss transaction unless Lord Favre publicly anounnces his approval.

[TheChampIsHere]

I was truly hoping for Aaron Rodgers, but hey a second round pick for Moss aint bad. But if we trade Moss and dont get a QB back and dont pick Russel, I am gonna feel pretty ****** about our QB situation, even though I do want CJ.

[princefielder28]

I was truly hoping for Aaron Rodgers, but hey a second round pick for Moss aint bad. But if we trade Moss and dont get a QB back and dont pick Russel, I am gonna feel pretty ****** about our QB situation, even though I do want CJ.

The Raiders will always be needing more regardless of what moves they make

[Microphon200]

Getting Randy Moss in a trade would be dumb. He says he would try for Brett Favre, but that doesn't mean he will. He has terrible work ethics and would be a bad locker romm guy. This draft is deep with wide receivers, so they can find one in the draft.

[princefielder28]

Getting Randy Moss in a trade would be dumb. He says he would try for Brett Favre, but that doesn't mean he will. He has terrible work ethics and would be a bad locker romm guy. This draft is deep with wide receivers, so they can find one in the draft.

That's still a very possible occurence

[TitleTown088]

Getting Randy Moss in a trade would be dumb. He says he would try for Brett Favre, but that doesn't mean he will. He has terrible work ethics and would be a bad locker romm guy. This draft is deep with wide receivers, so they can find one in the draft. Yeah, I honestly don't see the point of trading for someone like Moss if you must give up a 2nd rounder or more. . I'm actually quite content with the Packers WRs. I don't see the absolute need for Moss. If he could be had at a really good price it could be a different story however.

[neko4]

I got a feeling that if the Packers aquire moss they would be running alot of that 4 reciever set we saw last year. Driver, Moss, Jennings, Robinson/Martin = nasty. Too bad the Packers have ****** TEs.

However, despite my pipe dreams I will still not support a randy Moss transaction unless Lord Favre publicly anounnces his approval.

I believe the Great Lord has.

Getting Randy Moss in a trade would be dumb. He says he would try for Brett Favre, but that doesn't mean he will. He has terrible work ethics and would be a bad locker romm guy. This draft is deep with wide receivers, so they can find one in the draft.

Moss respects Favre unlike his previous QB's

[keylime_5]

Yeah, I heard a rumor somewhere about Aaron Rodgers being a part of this trade but there being a hangup on whether GreenBay should give up a 2007 conditional pick to the Raiders in case Rodgers sucks next year, or if Oakland would accept a 2008 conditional so he'd have 2 years in Oakland before the pick was decided as a 3rd rounder or a 7th rounder, etc.

Anyway, if Oakland does trade Moss and gets Rodgers out of it, then Johnson will certainly be a Raider and Russell will certainly be a Brown.

[DraftMichaelHuff]

Follow both Michael Smith and my own logic and get the Packers 2nd rounder for Moss and trade your original 2nd rounder pick, #33 for Matt Shaub, that way everyone is happy. You get a frachise QB, who is farmiliar with Greg Knapp and justin Griffith, a francise WR (CJ), the falcons get more picks and the Bucs still dont get CJ.

If the packers trade Rodgers for Moss that would be so dumb of the packers, he is the QB of the future of Farve ever leaves

[etk]

Good, don't want him to go to Tampa. They are practically in our division because we play them almost every year -_-.

Once again, this doesn't mean Oakland takes CJ at all.....

[PTPaQ]

Oh I like Vince. I just find it incredibly unrealistic that KGB would have the value to bump it from a 2nd pick down to a 3rd.

Now, maybe a 2nd and KGB instead of a 2nd and a conditional 2008 pick I could see.

Packers fans seem stuck to the idea that they aren't going to give up a 2nd round pick. It's going to happen exactly how I predicted in the Moss thread. If they can pull it off for less than the value of a 2nd I will give them the ol' Tip O' the Hat. But I doubt it.

Lmao. You have no clue what your talking about.

TT will never give up a 2nd round pick.

If KGB is involved it would be along with a 4th...MAYBE a 3rd.

Our GM would never get raped in a deal, unlike the Bears with Thomas Jones.

[TitleTown088]

Once again, this doesn't mean Oakland takes CJ at all.....
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[raidersfanxxx]

i dont care what we get, just take him off are hands already.

[PTPaQ]

I hope Moss returns to the NFC North... Charles Tillman could once again own him.

Yeh, maybe we could go after Steve Smith.

LoL, Tillman.

[Green Bay Scat]

I wouldnt mind getting Moss, just not for a 2nd and maybe a 3rd. If Moss was so good, they wouldnt want to trade him and they would try to make him happy, so obviously something isnt right. Besides Moss isnt nearly as fast as he use to be.

[neko4]

I wouldnt mind getting Moss, just not for a 2nd and maybe a 3rd. If Moss was so good, they wouldnt want to trade him and they would try to make him happy, so obviously something isnt right. Besides Moss isnt nearly as fast as he use to be.
Fast enough to stretch the field and get Jennings and Driver open underneath

[cheesehead10790]

Lmao. You have no clue what your talking about.

TT will never give up a 2nd round pick.

If KGB is involved it would be along with a 4th...MAYBE a 3rd.

Our GM would never get raped in a deal, unlike the Bears with Thomas Jones.


Lol well said. Maybe one day the Bears FO and their fans will understand how to run a football organization...

[PACKmanN]

Lol well said. Maybe one day the Bears FO and their fans will understand how to run a football organization...

thats gotta hurt.

[The Unseen]

Lol well said. Maybe one day the Bears FO and their fans will understand how to run a football organization...

Considering they just went to the Super Bowl, which is one more time that the Packers have in past years, I think they do.

And since when do "fans" run football organizations?

[cheesehead10790]

Considering they just went to the Super Bowl, which is one more time that the Packers have in past years, I think they do.

And since when do "fans" run football organizations?

Well considering the Bears hadnt made it to the SB since the 80s and GB was in two the past decade Id say the Packers fans can talk. I said front office by the way. And, sorry I forgot there are so many knit picky people like you...

[TitleTown088]

Why are you guys talking **** to the defending NFC champions?

[cheesehead10790]

Why are you guys talking **** to the defending NFC champions?


Because that title doesnt mean as much as it used to. NFC north is one of the worst conferences.

[TitleTown088]

Because that title doesnt mean as much as it used to. NFC north is one of the worst conferences.

They are the NFC champions. not just NFC north. Woudn't you be happpy if the Packers won it? Or would you not care because the " NFC isn't good"?

[THIZZorDIE]

Favre will gladly take Moss on his team. He throws the ball aimlessly enough, why not have a jump ball winner like Randy Moss to help him. Its a fit between QB and WR, thats for sure. Although I know Randy would rather play indoors on a track, than in the cold tundra. At this point, after two losing and miserable years in Oakland, Moss will cut out all of his BS, and play to win all year. He maybe 'quit' on the Raiders, at the worst point inside of those two years, but that will not be the case w/ Moss, on a competitive team. Moss didn't really create any kind of 'locker room dilemma', or off the field problems while he was in Oakland. The next team Moss goes to will get a dedicated one, if they are contending. Moss is even open to contract re-structuring. No, he wont let teams pay him like he's Eddie Kennison just because the stats over these past two years are comparable, but he wants to make it happen.

[princefielder28]

Because that title doesnt mean as much as it used to. NFC north is one of the worst conferences.

Since when is the NFC North a conference???

[PACKmanN]

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The deal is going to be finalized tomorrow.

Randy has been told to book a flight to Green Bay and will be at the press conference. Brett will also be making a statement at the press conference, according to my source.

The Raiders will announce a press conference for Friday at 5PM P.S.T.

The Raiders have agreed to allow the Packers to have their Press Conference before the Raiders official press conference, so expect a Packer Press Conference around 1 PM Green Bay time on Friday.

The Raiders will be getting Aaron, and the Packers 7th ruound pick in 2008 for Randy Moss, TE Courtney Anderson - Player Profile- www.sportsline.com/nfl...age/492881 and a conditional pick in 2009 with the highest being a 2nd round pick based on production numbers from Aaron.

Apparently T.T. insisted that part of the deal was for Ranndy Moss and his agent to restructure his contract and ALSO FOR RANDY to be at the PRESS CONFERENCE IN PERSON and offer an appology to the Green Bay Fans in regards to the Mooning of the fans in Green bay. (Good On You T.T.)

Word is Randy is very happy and he and Brett have been talknng on the phone. The respect that Randy has for Brett has always been known so this makes sense to me.

Aaron Rogers has not been assured that the Raiders will not draft Q.B. with the first Pick but is very upbeat on the opportunity to return to the bay area as well as know that he will be the number one QB going into camp.

I know you are all going to ask me for a source. I am sorry I can not give it to you, not that I am a reporter becuase I am not.

I can only tell you that this is what was told to me, by a guy I know, who is a friend of a friend... So this probably means crap.

I just wanted it posted and recorded incase it is right.

I am buying this becuase the Packers need help at TE, the appology and restructuring of Randy's contract as well as the fact the Brett is suppose to make a statement about the trade, after all.... He has been fighting for this.

R.P.



OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG

[TitleTown088]

http://packerforum.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=10301


The deal is going to be finalized tomorrow.

Randy has been told to book a flight to Green Bay and will be at the press conference. Brett will also be making a statement at the press conference, according to my source.

The Raiders will announce a press conference for Friday at 5PM P.S.T.

The Raiders have agreed to allow the Packers to have their Press Conference before the Raiders official press conference, so expect a Packer Press Conference around 1 PM Green Bay time on Friday.

The Raiders will be getting Aaron, and the Packers 7th ruound pick in 2008 for Randy Moss, TE Courtney Anderson - Player Profile- www.sportsline.com/nfl...age/492881 and a conditional pick in 2009 with the highest being a 2nd round pick based on production numbers from Aaron.

Apparently T.T. insisted that part of the deal was for Ranndy Moss and his agent to restructure his contract and ALSO FOR RANDY to be at the PRESS CONFERENCE IN PERSON and offer an appology to the Green Bay Fans in regards to the Mooning of the fans in Green bay. (Good On You T.T.)

Word is Randy is very happy and he and Brett have been talknng on the phone. The respect that Randy has for Brett has always been known so this makes sense to me.

Aaron Rogers has not been assured that the Raiders will not draft Q.B. with the first Pick but is very upbeat on the opportunity to return to the bay area as well as know that he will be the number one QB going into camp.

I know you are all going to ask me for a source. I am sorry I can not give it to you, not that I am a reporter becuase I am not.

I can only tell you that this is what was told to me, by a guy I know, who is a friend of a friend... So this probably means crap.

I just wanted it posted and recorded incase it is right.

I am buying this becuase the Packers need help at TE, the appology and restructuring of Randy's contract as well as the fact the Brett is suppose to make a statement about the trade, after all.... He has been fighting for this.

R.P.



OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG


Are you kidding me? That's just some BS some guy wrote up. I saw that like two days ago. How can you believe that?

Also, is that a marquan Manuel sig?

[PACKmanN]

Are you kidding me? That's just some BS some guy wrote up. I saw that like two days ago. How can you believe that?

Also, is that a marquan Manuel sig?

YUP! (why do i have to write 10 words?)

[princefielder28]

Are you kidding me? That's just some BS some guy wrote up. I saw that like two days ago. How can you believe that?

Also, is that a marquan Manuel sig?

The guy can't be believeable if he has a Manuel sig

[TitleTown088]

The guy can't be believeable if he has a Manuel sig

haha no kidding. I've seen thaht article on like 10 sites now, and it's total BS.