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ThePudge
03-05-2010, 04:26 PM
2010 NFL Draft – Post Combine Rankings

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Quarterbacks
Why the big move up for Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford in my rankings? It’s because I am starting to see the total package after revisiting film and watching him weigh in (6’4 ¼ 236) & answer questions about his injured shoulder. It appears the shoulder is at 85% right now, he’s throwing over 100 passes in his sessions and it’s holding up great; by the time camp starts or contact starts (in August) Bradford will be 100% and ready. He has the look of a player that could bring wins to a franchise and is my current favorite for the #1 Overall Pick to St. Louis. Like Bradford, Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen didn’t work out in Indy and will wait to throw at his Pro Day. I’m uncertain if NFL teams think of Clausen as a Top 5 guy and it looks more likely he’ll be in that 6-10 range on draft day. The story is the same for Texas’ Colt McCoy (who weighed in at only 6’1 1/8) and we’ll have to wait until his Pro Day as well. Though he also didn’t throw in Indy, Florida’s Tim Tebow did the athletic tests and had great success posting QB highs in the vertical (38.5”), the short shuttle (4.17), the long shuttle (11.27), and posted an incredible 6.66 3-Cone time. Before I jump to any conclusions about Tebow’s draft stock I’m going to have to check out this new motion and how he throws at his Pro Day.

On the field no Quarterback really stood out though West Virginia’s Jarrett Brown posted a great 40 time (4.54) and Central Michigan’s Dan LeFevour was able to show his athleticism at 6’3 ¼ 230. Nothing I saw would change my opinions that John Skelton, Jevan Snead, and Levi Brown are anything more than mid-round picks at best. Zac Robinson and Tony Pike were also unspectacular in Indianapolis as were late-undrafted options Mike Kafka and Sean Canfield. It should be interesting to follow the QB Pro Days as Tennessee’s Jonathan Crompton, Appalachian State’s Armanti Edwards, and Eastern Washington’s Matt Nichols will be working out then. Nothing much is settled (or strong) in this class except for the top where Bradford & Clausen may have franchise potential.

1. Sam Bradford – Oklahoma – Top 5 pick*
2. Jimmy Clausen – Notre Dame – Top 10 pick*
3. Tim Tebow - Florida - Early 2nd-Early 3rd
4. Colt McCoy - Texas - Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Dan LeFevour – Central Michigan – Late 3rd-Early 5th
6. Jarrett Brown – West Virginia – Mid 3rd-Early 5th
7. John Skelton – Fordham – Early 4th-Late 5th
8. Jevan Snead – Mississippi – Early 5th-6th Round
9. Mike Kafka - Northwestern - Late 4th-6th Round
10. Levi Brown – Troy – 6th-7th Round
11. Zac Robinson – Oklahoma State – 6th-7th Round
12. Tony Pike – Cincinnati – Late 4th-7th Round
13. Jonathan Crompton – Tennessee – 6th-7th Round
14. Armanti Edwards – Appalachain State – 6th Round-UDFA
15. Matt Nichols – Eastern Washington – 7th Round-UDFA
16. Sean Canfield – Oregon State – UDFA
17. Daryll Clark – Penn State – UDFA
18. Rusty Smith – Florida Atlantic - UDFA
19. Tim Hiller – Western Michigan – UDFA
20. Max Hall – BYU – UDFA

Running Backs
The 2010 NFL Combine came and went for the Running Backs with few changes at the top. Clemson’s C.J. Spiller measured in at only 196 pounds and didn’t do a full workout, but he did run the 40 with a time of 4.37. California’s Jahvid Best, another sub-200 back (199) ran the fastest 40 at the position (4.35) and should receive consideration toward the end of the first despite concussion concerns. Fresno State’s Ryan Matthews is a player moving up the boards and turned in a great workout in Indy with a 4.45 40 at 5’11 5/8 218. Matthews is largely thought to be the class’ most complete back, showing a little bit of everything under coach Pat Hill; it appears he could go as early as the First Round though I have more of a Mid-Second grade on him. Auburn’s Ben Tate was perhaps the position’s greatest standout at the Combine and took momentum from a strong Senior season & week at the Senior Bowl. If given a good situation Tate could be a surprise to some as he does have a second gear (4.43), explosiveness (40.5” vert & 10’4 broad), quickness, & fluidity all at 220. There is a chance that a team in the Mid-Late 2nd is intrigued by feature back potential and as evidenced all season there might be some hope there; at worst he should be a serviceable back in a north-south offense.

Two guys at opposite ends of the spectrum are Stanford’s Toby Gerhart and Georgia Tech’s Jonathan Dwyer. Gerhart had a great weekend at the Combine showing great physique at 6’0 1/8 231 and he really tested well with a 38” vert, a 9’10 broad, and impressive times in the short shuttle (4.25) and 3-Cone (6.94). Ultimately, if you came in with questions about his speed & ability to break the big run, you’re still going to have those concerns at the end of the day; but, Gerhart had a great workout and draw interest as early as the Mid 2nd though I have him graded right in the Early 3rd as a prospect. Dwyer managed to look out of shape and really lacked speed & explosiveness; he failed to stand out in any way and could be looking at a fall to the Mid 3rd, perhaps even the 4th Round unless he improves greatly at his Pro Day. Mississippi’s Dexter McCluster was very quick & fluid as expected though his slow 4.58 40 will alarm some. Tennessee’s Montario Hardesty (5’11 ¾ 225) & Buffalo’s James Starks (6’2 1/8 218) are two big backs that will come off the boards in the middle rounds and each possess enough explosiveness and athleticism to capture good roles on teams. Hardesty ran a 4.49 and posted RB highs in the vertical (41”) and broad jump (10’4) as well as good times in every timed test.

Out of the rest of the backs there really weren’t any standouts. Oklahoma State’s Keith Toston is a guy I like on film a lot and had a real good week at the Shrine game; however, he looked slow and slightly out of shape at only 213. Among other mid-late round options that failed to really make a great impression were Oregon’s LeGarrette Blount, Miami’s Javarris James, and USC’s Stafon Johnson. Two small school guys, Wayne State’s Joique Bell and North Dakota State’s Pat Paschall, couldn’t crack the 4.65 barrier in the 40 but turned in good overall workouts & each posted a good performance in the quickness & explosion tests. Fresno State’s Lonyae Miller is the last guy that I would say helped his cause at the Combine after he led the backs in bench reps (26) at 5’11 ¼ 221 with 4.53 speed and a solid performance in position drills & explosiveness tests. Paschall & Miller are likely late-undrafted options while Bell may garner a bit more attention after a good week in Mobile earlier.

1. C.J. Spiller – Clemson – Top 20
2. Jahvid Best – California – Late 1st-Early 2nd*
3. Ryan Matthews – Fresno State – Late 1st-Late 2nd*
4. Anthony Dixon – Mississippi State – Late 2nd-Early 4th
5. Ben Tate – Auburn – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
6. Toby Gerhart – Stanford – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Montario Hardesty - Tennessee - Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
8. Jonathan Dwyer – Georgia Tech – Early 3rd-Early 4th*
9. Dexter McCluster – Mississippi – Early 3rd-Early 4th (WR)
10. James Starks – Buffalo – Early 4th-Early 5th
11. Joe McKnight – USC – Mid 4th-Early 5th*
12. Keith Toston – Oklahoma State – 5th Round
13. LeGarrette Blount – Oregon – Late 4th-Early 6th
14. Javarris James – Miami – Mid 5th-6th Round
15. Joique Bell – Wayne State – Late 5th-6th Round
16. Stafon Johnson – USC - 6th-7th Round
17. Lonyae Miller – Fresno State – 7th Round-UDFA
18. Pat Paschall – North Dakota State – 7th Round-UDFA
19. Charles Scott – LSU – 7th Round-UDFA
20. Curtis Steele – Memphis - UDFA

Fullbacks
As expected there wasn’t a lot of noise from the Fullbacks at the Combine as only three received invitations. Virginia’s Rashawn Jackson didn’t participate in the bench but proved to be a fairly explosive athlete at 6’1 239 (9’7 broad) & turned in a fine workout after a pretty good week earlier at the Senior Bowl. In a weak class, Jackson is the best option for an all-purpose starting FB; however, it’s not likely he’s taken before the 5th Round. Another back in attendance in Mobile was Kentucky’s John Conner who is more of the bruising run-blocking type. He had a good showing here as well testing surprisingly well and he should be a lock to be drafted in the late rounds to a FB needy power-running team. The final fullback present in Indy was BYU’s Manese Tonga. Though he didn’t necessarily stand out in his workouts, Tonga had a good college career, comes from a good FB pedigree in BYU, and should tempt a team in the late rounds (likely the 7th). We didn’t get to see Rutgers’ Jack Corcoran or Utah’s Matt Asiata work out but each have a chance to get drafted because of the weakness at the position & lack of depth.

1. Rashawn Jackson – Virginia – Mid 5th-Early 6th
2. John Conner – Kentucky – Late 5th-Late 6th
3. Manese Tonga – BYU – 6th-7th Round
4. Jack Corcoran – Rutgers – 7th Round-UDFA
5. Matt Asiata – Utah – UDFA (RB)

Wide Receivers
The receivers were one of the least impressive groups in Indianapolis, though there is a star talent that has yet to workout in Oklahoma State’s Dez Bryant. He weighed in at the Combine 6’2 225 and didn’t participate due to a hamstring injury. Some maturity issues have been raised recently, but Bryant is still a Top 10 pick and a Top 5 value. Notre Dame’s Golden Tate surprised many by running a 4.42 but didn’t have an impressive build at 5’10 ¼ 199. A player that may have slipped a bit & hurt himself in interviews is Illinois” Arrelious Benn. He didn’t make the most of his Combine by running in the early-mid 4.5 range and didn’t stand out in drills. A few players that are expected to be drafted in the Early-Mid 2nd Round range, USC’s Damien Williams, Cincinnati’s Mardy Gilyard, and LSU’s Brandon LaFell, failed to improve their stock although they likely didn’t hurt it much either. LaFell, after rejecting the Senior Bowl weighed in with small 8 ¾” hands which is a big reason his hands are seen as somewhat inconsistent.

The Citadel’s Andre Roberts and Clemson’s Jacoby Ford both ranked among the standouts in the WR group & carried momentum heading into the event after good performances in Mobile. Roberts looked crisp & athletic at 5’10 7/8 195 and impressed showing good speed (4.46), explosiveness, and quickness in tests/drills. Ford, on the other hand, was the Combine’s fastest player clocked at 4.28. Both players will likely receive a lot of interest in the 3rd Round come April. A couple players I had higher expectations for coming into the weekend were Texas’ Jordan Shipley and Florida’s Riley Cooper. In particular, I though Cooper would run faster than a low 4.5 and likewise I didn’t think Shipley would be in the 4.6 area. Each will have to impress at their Pro Days to cement Third Round grades; I would expect Cooper will be down from 222 (in Indy) to around 215 by that time. Kansas’ Dezmon Briscoe is a guy that really may have hurt himself putting up only 9 reps in the bench press and running a low-mid 4.6 40. I wouldn’t be shocked to see the productive underclassman Jayhawk fall to the draft’s later rounds.

One player that has helped his cause since the end of the season is Michigan State’s Blair White who at 6’2 ¼ 207 timed right around 4.5 and really excelled in the quickness & change of direction drills. Pittsburgh’s Dorin Dickerson was a college Tight End but at only 6’1 3/8 226 running a 4.40 and showing off an explosive 43.5” vertical & 10’4 broad jump. On the field, however his athleticism doesn’t translate and he has struggles with route-running & changing direction. Syracuse’s Mike Williams disappointed with mid 4.6 speed and had terrible interviews, refusing to take responsibility for his checkered past. Louisville’s Scott Long had perhaps the best workout of any receiver and you can bet film will be re-visited though he wasn’t very productive in college. Joining Bryant in not working out due to injury were Georgia Tech’s Demaryius Thomas, Minnesota’s Eric Decker, and Missouri’s Danario Alexander. A couple MAC guys that I like, Bowling Green’s Freddie Barnes and Buffalo’s Naaman Roosevelt weren’t invited. The feeling that most evaluators are getting from this class is that it’s not a very strong one but offers one potential star talent.

1. Dez Bryant – Oklahoma State – Top 10 pick*
2. Golden Tate – Notre Dame – Late 1st-Early 2nd*
3. Demaryius Thomas – Georgia Tech – Late 1st-Mid 2nd*
4. Damian Williams – USC – Early-Mid 2nd*
5. Mardy Gilyard – Cincinnati – Second Round
6. Arrelious Benn - Illinois - Second Round*
7. Brandon LaFell – LSU – Early-Mid 2nd
8. Eric Decker – Minnesota – Early 3rd-Early 4th
9. Andre Roberts – The Citadel – Third Round
10. Jacoby Ford – Clemson – Late 2nd-Late 3rd
11. Jordan Shipley – Texas – Early 3rd-Early 4th
12. Jeremy Williams – Tulane – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
13. Riley Cooper – Florida – Late 3rd-Late 4th
14. Carlton Mitchell – South Florida – Late 3rd-Early 5th*
15. Dezmon Briscoe – Kansas – Late 4th-7th Round*
16. Blair White – Michigan State – Late 4th-Mid 5th
17. Danario Alexander – Missouri – Mid 5th-7th Round
18. Dorin Dickerson – Pittsburgh – Early 5th-Mid 6th (TE/H-B)
19. Freddie Barnes – Bowling Green – Late 5th-7th Round
20. Mike Williams – Syracuse – 6th Round-UDFA
21. Antonio Brown – Central Michigan – 6th-7th Round*
22. Naaman Roosevelt – Buffalo – 6th Round-UDFA
23. Joe Webb – UAB – Mid 5th-7th Round
24. Taylor Price – Ohio – Early 5th-6th Round
25. Scott Long – Louisville – Late 5th-7th Round

Tight Ends
The Tight End position was a fairly boring group in Indianapolis with my #2 and 3 ranked players (Gronkowski, Hernandez) choosing not to run the 40 or go through drills. The consensus top prospect, Oklahoma’s Jermaine Gresham, did a full workout and looked as most expected. He’s not a burner, but he’s a big down-field target with long arms, excellent hands, body control, and should be destined for a spot in the first round. USC’s Anthony McCoy was a disappointment in Indy where he had a chance to cement his name in the Second Round. At the Combine he showed suspect hands & concentration and he failed to run a good 40 time which could stunt the momentum he gained in Mobile. Another Pac-10 guy, Oregon’s Ed Dickson, continues to impress this post-season. Dickson looked good physically at 6’4 ¼ 249 was smooth & quick in position drills and his 4.67 40-Yard Dash helps his cause as a receiving TE prospect.

Jimmy Graham for Miami (Fl.) on the other hand impressed as expected with the best combination of size and athleticism in the Tight End group. At 6’6 ¼ 260 with long 35” arms and big hands Graham was able to run a 4.56, post a 38.5” vert, and stand out in most of the quickness and explosion tests/drills. There were a couple guys at the Combine, BYU’s Dennis Pitta and Missouri State’s Clay Harbor, that will make teams very happy in the mid-rounds, early on Day Three. A very productive college player, Pitta impressed with his speed (4.63), strength (27 Reps), and posted the top times among Tight Ends in the short shuttle (4.17), the 3-Cone (6.72), and the long shuttle; however, due to his age and lack of experience and ability as a blocker. Harbor may get looks at Half-Back but is muscularly built and turned in a great overall workout standing out in position drills. He ran a good 40 time at 4.69, turned in a 40” Vert, a 10”0 broad jump and was one of the big winners of the group. Unfortunately we didn’t get too much more out of the Tight End group as Michael Hoomanawanui (Illinois) and Colin Peek (Alabama) joined Gronkowki & Hernandez in sitting out the workouts while a guy I like Eastern Washington’s Nathan Overbay wasn’t invited.

1. Jermaine Gresham – Oklahoma – Top 25 pick
2. Rob Gronkowski – Arizona – Early-Mid 2nd*
3. Aaron Hernandez – Florida – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd (H-B)
4. Ed Dickson – Oregon – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
5. Anthony McCoy - USC - Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
6. Jimmy Graham – Miami (Fl.) – Early 3rd-Early 4th
7. Garrett Graham – Wisconsin – Mid 4th-Early 5th (H-B)
8. Michael Hoomanawanui – Illinois – Late 4th-Mid 5th
9. Colin Peek – Alabama – Early 4th-Mid 5th
10. Dennis Pitta – BYU – Mid 4th-Late 5th
11. Tony Moeaki - Iowa - Early 4th-Late 5th (H-B)
12. Clay Harbor – Missouri State – Early 5th-Early 6th (H-B)
13. Andrew Quarless – Penn State – Early 5th-Early 6th
14. Nathan Overbay – Eastern Washington – Mid 5th-7th Round
15. Nate Byham – Pittsburgh – 7th Round-UDFA

Offensive Tackles
Heading into the weekend the thinking was that anything could happen in Indy and there were definitely a select feviw that were supposed to stand out. He didn’t do a full workout but Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung really looked impressive at 6’5 ¼ 307 with extremely long 36” arms and showed tremendous power with 38 reps of 225, most among Offensive Tackle. Despite showing immaturity during interviews and posting disappointing numbers in the 40 yard dash and bench press (21 reps) Rutgers’ Anthony Davis should still have enough on film to be a Top 15 pick. A guy that may have revived his stock is Oklahoma’s Trent Williams who impressed everyone running a 4.88 40-Yard Dash and showed explosiveness with a 34.5” vert and 9’5 broad jump, incredible for a 315 pound Offensive Lineman. Most evaluators see Williams as a right tackle, but with 34 ½” arms and a good workout in Indy he could have intrigued OL coaches and put his name back in contention for a Top 15-20 pick. There was some hype coming out of Iowa that Bryan Bulaga may run in the 4.9-5.0 range, though there was no evidence to support that in Indy. Due to a heavy demand for his position, Bulaga may have a shot at the Top 10, though on film he looks a bit inconsistent in his technique.

Maryland’s Bruce Campbell was this year’s workout warrior at OT standing 6’6 3/8 with extremely long 36 ¼” arms, power (32 reps), and athleticism running an incredible 4.85 40. It’s unknown how high he may go as on film he’s never looked like a first round pick, but it’s thought the premium on his position could push Campbell as high as the Top 15, many feel that he could slip on draft day though further than the media expects. Charles Brown from USC didn’t workout but impressed me at 6’5 3/8 303 with 35 ¼” arms; his potential at Left Tackle could get him looks early on in the 2nd, though on film he looks more like a 3rd Rounder who needs work on his aggressiveness. Two small school Tackles really stood out in Indy, Abilene Christian’s Tony Washington and Hillsdale’s Jared Veldheer, they both have a shot to go as high as the 3rd and you better believe OL coaches are working hard looking for film on these guys. Marshall Newhouse from TCU looks like he could play Guard or Right Tackle and may be a good mid-round option as an athletic, thick lineman.

Well-respected & decorated seniors such as Iowa’s Kyle Calloway, WVU’s Selvish Capers, and LSU’s Ciron Black failed to do anything to stand out at the Combine and all could be late round picks that lack key NFL attributes: Calloway (feet/athleticism), Black (explosiveness/feet), and Capers (strength/temperament). I was disappointed that Rutgers’ Kevin Haslam and Stanford’s Chris Marinelli weren’t invited as they are both solid players on film & look like they have potential as late round options for a team in need of some versatile OL depth. Miami’s Jason Fox joined USC’s Brown in not working out and I’m not sure what he’ll be capable of doing at his Pro Day due to knee surgery near the end of the 2009 season. This class has some top prospects, some raw talent & upside, and is deep with good college players.

1. Russell Okung – Oklahoma State – Top 10 pick
2. Anthony Davis – Rutgers – Top 20 pick*
3. Trent Williams – Oklahoma – Top 20 pick (OG)
4. Bryan Bulaga – Iowa – Top 20 pick*
5. Bruce Campbell – Maryland – Top 10-Early 2nd*
6. Charles Brown – USC – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
7. Jared Veldheer – Hillsdale – Mid 3rd-Late 4th
8. Jason Fox – Miami (Fl.) – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
9. Tony Washington – Abilene Christian – Late 3rd-Early 5th
10. Marshall Newhouse – TCU – Mid 4th-Mid 5th (OG)
11. Selvish Capers – West Virginia – Late 4th-Early 6th
12. Kyle Calloway – Iowa – Mid 5th-6th Round (OG)
13. Kevin Haslam – Rutgers – 6th-7th Round
14. Ciron Black – LSU – 6th Round-UDFA (OG)
15. Chris Marinelli – Stanford – 7th Round-UDFA
16. Thomas Welch – Vanderbilt – 7th Round-UDFA
17. Ed Wang – Virginia Tech – 7th Round-UDFA
18. Adam Ulatoski – Texas – UDFA
19. Kurtis Gregory – Missouri – UDFA (OG)
20. Sam Young – Notre Dame – UDFA

Offensive Guards
There was little done at the NFL Combine to change to complexion of this years draft class. Idaho’s Mike Iupati is still the top dog possessing dominating game film, he’s enormous, he’s powerful, and he brings exactly the type of mean streak you want from a guy in the trenches. A player moving up the boards quietly is Indiana’s Roger Saffold who played Tackle in college and established himself as a very powerful, athletic, versatile player in East-West Shrine practices. Saffold came to the Combine at 316 and showed top explosiveness (9’5 Broad Jump) and ability to change direction on the move (7.42 3-Cone.) A guy that got hyped early on in the process, Vladimir Ducasse from Massachusetts showed a long, massive body and impressed with his bench total (29) though his technique is raw and he’ll need to play Guard in the NFL. Mississippi’s John Jerry is yet another converted Tackle that made himself some money. After dropping 20 pounds in the last year, Jerry appeared explosive, athletic, and powerful at the Combine and has a shot to come off the board in the Second Round.

Alabama’s Mike Johnson, perhaps the nation’s top lineman a year ago, weighed in at a sturdy 312 but didn’t do a full workout and lacks arm length and foot quickness. Arizona State’s Shawn Lauvao and Tennessee’s Chris Scott are two mid-round options that offer value at Offensive Tackle (their college position.) Lauvao was able to impress, putting up the bar 33 times, and recorded the top short shuttle time for a lineman at 4.51. Scott failed to stand out, only put up 19 reps at 319 pounds and ran over a 5.4, a definite disappointment for a guy who looked like a worthy project at the Senior Bowl and Shrine Game. Arkansas’ Mitch Petrus shocked the Combine by putting up 45 Reps, a spectacular number. Colorado State’s Shelley Smith (5.11) and James Madison’s Dorian Brooks (5.16) were two of the more impressive athletes at Guard and each looked good in positional drills. Texas Tech’s Brandon Carter was a huge disappointment on the bench (21) and may lack the feet to play OG or RT in the NFL. Illinois” Jon Asamoah was unable to workout in Indianapolis.

1. Mike Iupati – Idaho – Top 32 pick
2. Roger Saffold – Indiana – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd (OT)
3. Vladimir Ducasse – Massachusetts – Late 2nd-Early 3rd (OT)
4. John Jerry – Mississippi – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Mike Johnson – Alabama – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
6. Jon Asamoah – Illinois – Late 3rd-Late 4th
7. Shawn Lauvao – Arizona State – Late 4th-Mid 5th
8. Chris Scott – Tennessee – Late 4th-Early 6th (OT)
9. Mitch Petrus – Arkansas – Early 5th-Early 6th
10. Shelley Smith – Colorado State – Late 5th-6th Round
11. Zane Beadles – Utah – Late 5th-7th Round (OT)
12. Dorian Brooks – James Madison – 6th-7th Round
13. Chris DeGeare – Wake Forest – 6th Round-UDFA
14. Sergio Render – Virginia Tech – 7th Round-UDFA
15. Brandon Carter – Texas Tech – UDFA (OT)

Centers
Obviously there was not a ton of attention and buzz surrounding the Centers in this class and it’s apparent that this draft is much weaker at the top and far more thin than the 2009 class. The best of the bunch, Florida’s Maurkice Pouncey, failed to stand out during his workout and didn’t impress as much athletically as I thought he might. He’ll do a more complete workout in Gainesville and should wind up in the Second Round based on his impressive film and versatility as an interior lineman. A well-decorated player in the ACC, Boston College’s Matt Tennant had a good workout showing the best quickness in a phone booth & speed though he’s not likely to be picked until the 4th Round. The next best at the position is Baylor’s J.D. Walton who has a good powerful build at 6-2 5/8 300, he put up 34 Reps of 225, and he showed some explosiveness with an 8’5 Broad Jump. Overall it was a good workout for Walton who will likely be drafted second or third among Centers. Notre Dame’s Eric Olsen followed up a good Senior Bowl with an impressive showing this week with good size (6’3 7/8 306) and plenty of power (35 reps). Jeff Byers of USC is a bit older than your average Senior, but has enough experience, versatility, and strength (33 reps) to warrant interest in the late rounds.

1. Maurkice Pouncey – Florida – Second Round* (OG)
2. Matt Tennant – Boston College – Late 3rd-Late 4th
3. J.D. Walton – Baylor – Early 4th-Early 5th
4. Eric Olsen – Notre Dame – Early 5th-Mid 6th (OG)
5. Jeff Byers – USC – 6th Round-UDFA (OG)


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Defensive Ends
It was an interesting week for some of the names at the top of my DE rankings. Though more likely to fall in the 17-22 range, Michigan’s Brandon Graham is my top rated player at the position. After turning in a great week in Mobile, Graham established himself with power (30 reps), speed (4.72 40) and he did it all at an increased weight at 268; 3-4 Teams will look at him as a linebacker though I think he’ll find success in the NFL no matter what position. South Florida’s Jason Pierre-Paul may not have measured/tested as the freak many expected, but he still raised his stock in Indy showing off his height/length, some explosiveness, and good physique. His body could hold up to fifteen more pounds comfortably and teams will likely consider JPP as high as the Top 10 (Oakland, Jacksonville). I was not impressed with Georgia Tech’s Derrick Morgan who has an unspectacular build and looks as if he could add big time muscle mass. Originally thought of as a Top 15 pick, Morgan may have to wait until the Mid-Late First to hear his name called. USC’s Everson Griffen turned out to be the workout warrior of the group, posting 32 reps on the bench and a 4.66 40-yard dash at 273 pounds. Griffen has a lot of room to grow as a player and will get attention form 3-4 and 4-3 teams; expect to see him off the board in the Mid-Late First Round.

We have another case of polar opposites in super-productive, undersized (6’1 ¾ 255) Jerry Hughes from TCU and enormous (6’5 ¾ 277) underachiever Carlos Dunlap from Florida. To everyone’s surprise it was Hughes that really showed up at the Combine, impressing with a 4.69 40 and an impressive first step (1.53 10 yd split). With 33” arms and good quickness/acceleration it’s thought the TCU tweener could have officially put his name in the First Round conversation. Dunlap’s a guy that I wouldn’t take in the First, a guy who never put it all together on the field, and a guy who really didn’t help his cause with interviews where he failed to show a passion or IQ for the game. Physically he has a lot of mass in his torso & thighs and was fairly explosive in tests & drills, but he has very thin arms and will have a huge adjustment to the league mentally. The middle-of-the-pack ends such as Arkansas State’s Alex Carrington and Mississippi’s Greg Hardy worked out yet failed to really impress. Hardy, in particular, struggled with a poor showing on the bench (21 reps) then a slow 40 time (4.9e); he’s shown nothing to revive his stock (which was in the 1st at a time) and he appears destined to be an early pick on Day Three.

I’m glad Washington’s Daniel Te’o Nesheim continues to build his stock and show NFL teams he’s more than just a productive college player. He turned in a good week at the Shrine game and here Nesheim weighed in at 6’3 ½ 264 (33 ¾” arms) and managed to turn in a great total on the bench (29), the 40, and in most quickness/explosiveness tests. Another player that flashed physical ability wasn’t quite as productive in college and that’s South Carolina’s Clifton Geathers. He had that ‘wow’ factor in weigh-ins at 6’7 ½ 299 with unbelievable 37 ¾” arms; expect him to draw attention in the late rounds as a potential 5-Tech prospect for 3-4 teams. Unfortuntately the Combine came and went without full workouts from Northwestern’s Corey Wootton, Florida’s Jermaine Cunningham, and Alabama’s Brandon Deadrick among others.

1. Brandon Graham – Michigan – Top 25 pick (OLB)
2. Jason Pierre-Paul – South Florida – Top 10 pick*
3. Derrick Morgan – Georgia Tech – Top 20 pick*
4. Everson Griffen – USC – Top 25 pick* (OLB)
5. Jerry Hughes – TCU – Late 1st-Mid 2nd (OLB)
6. Carlos Dunlap – Florida – Late 1st-Mid 2nd*
7. Alex Carrington – Arkansas State – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd (3-4 DE)
8. Corey Wootton – Northwestern – Late 2nd-Late 3rd (3-4 DE)
9. Greg Hardy – Mississippi – Mid 3rd-Early 5th (OLB)
10. Jermaine Cunningham – Florida – Late 3rd-Late 4th
11. Brandon Deadrick – Alabama – Mid 4th-Mid 5th (DT/3-4 DE)
12. Daniel Te’o Nesheim – Washington – Late 4th-Mid 6th
13. Austen Lane – Murray State – Late 4th-Mid 5th
14. Lindsey Witten – Connecticut – Mid 5th-Early 7th
15. George Selvie – South Florida – Mid 5th-7th Round (OLB)
16. Clifton Geathers – South Carolina – 6th-7th Round* (3-4 DE)
17. Jeff Fitzgerald – Kansas State – 6th-7th Round
18. Hall Davis – Louisiana Lafayette – 6th-7th Round
19. C.J. Wilson – East Carolina – 6th Round-UDFA (3-4 DE)
20. Willie Young – North Carolina State – 6th Round-UDFA

Defensive Tackles
Let me preface by saying I haven’t seen quite a battle at the top of my board like this and of course it’s never been at the same position that I’m debating between two prospects. I have Oklahoma’s Gerald McCoy ahead of Ndamukong Suh on this, my latest board, not because of anything either player did (or didn’t do) in Indianapolis. During the weekend I saw a lot of both players, but even after Suh turned in the slightly better workout I started to get the feeling that McCoy was the more coveted player among NFL teams. It makes sense to me, as the former Sooner brings a clean injury history, experience in a variety of roles & positions, greater quickness upfield, and is extremely personable with a very likeable personality. Suh, on the other hand, is a bit more soft spoken and isn’t likely to be a havoc-wreaking pass-rusher, nor is he likely to hold the role of a two gap run stuffer. His personality is likeable & on the field you have to love his temperament, but he’s a man of few words and isn’t going to wow you in interviews. In Indy he showed a massive body with huge broad shoulders, thick thighs, and showed everything physically that he needed to. I just think McCoy’s explosiveness & potential as a penetrating 4-3 UT fits more along the NFL trends of increased passing and I think his personality is going to help him build relationships with those top teams. Ultimately this one comes down to what you need on your team, it’s truly a 1A & 1B situation and both players are locked into Top 3 spots.

Aside from the main events, there were a number of other quality Tackles in attendance including UCLA’s Brian Price who might have the potential to be a Top 15-20 pick. Price had one of the thickest upper bodies in attendance, flashed his power (34 reps), and also showed impressive feet & some athleticism. Tennessee’s Dan Williams may not have anything to raise his stock but he came in stout at 6’2 327, he moved well, and he did nothing that would cause you to believe a team won’t take him in the first round (most likely to play Nose Tackle in a 3-4). Well it was nice to see Alabama’s Terrance “Mount” Cody down sixteen pounds from the Senior Bowl to 354. Cody likely raised his stock after coming to the Senior Bowl noticeably over-weight, he has stated that he’d like to lose eight more pounds and play at that weight; the sky is the limit if a team gets interested in Cody as I could see him anywhere from the 11-28 range at this moment. The guy that may have helped himself most is Texas’ Lamarr Houston who just seems to be doing everything right from a strong senior season, to a strong championship game, then to a great week in Mobile. Houston looked fit and muscular at 6’2 ¾ 305 and flashed 4.8-4.9 speed, good agility in drills, and put up 30 reps on the bench press. Jared Odrick from Penn State is likely to attract a lot of attention from 3-4 teams looking for a 5-Tech. After a good Senior Bowl, Odrick turned in a good workout but didn’t particularly stand out; I could see him falling to the Second Round as of right now though I think he’ll garner interest from teams like New England and New York in the first.

Georgia’s Geno Atkins impressed with a muscular physique at 293, good explosiveness, and great power (34 reps). Don’t be surprised if you start hearing about Central Florida’s Torrell Troup in coming months as he’ll be a guy that could start to surge up boards after a good week at the Shrine game and an impressive Combine that included 34 bench reps at 6’2 ¾ 314 with 34” arms. Linval Joseph from East Carolina is another C-USA guy that had a great week in Indy putting up 39 reps at an enormous 6’4 ½ 328 with 34 ½” arms; Nose Tackle will be a possibility as Joseph will start moving up into the Day Two discussion. Another DT that impressed was Atkins’ teammate Jeff Owens who put up a group-leading 44 reps in the bench press. Al Woods from LSU had vines for arms (36”) and enormous hands (11”) to go along with the top vertical for DTs at 37”. Syracuse’s Arthur Jones and Louisiana Tech’s D’Anthony Smith were among those that didn’t work out due to injury.

1. Gerald McCoy – Oklahoma – Top 3 pick*
2. Ndamukong Suh – Nebraska – Top 3 pick
3. Brian Price – UCLA – Top 25 pick*
4. Dan Williams – Tennessee – Top 25 pick (NT)
5. Terrance Cody – Alabama – Mid 1st-Early 2nd (NT)
6. Lamarr Houston – Texas – Second Round
7. Jared Odrick – Penn State – Second Round (3-4 DE)
8. Tyson Alualu - California - Late 2nd-Early 4th (3-4 DE)
9. Geno Atkins – Georgia – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
10. Arthur Jones – Syracuse – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd (3-4 DE)
11. Cam Thomas – North Carolina – Late 2nd-Late 3rd (NT)
12. Torrell Troup – Central Florida – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
13. Linval Joseph – East Carolina – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th* (NT)
14. Jeff Owens – Georgia – Mid 4th-Late 5th (NT)
15. D’Anthony Smith – Louisiana Tech – Early 4th-Mid 5th
16. Al Woods – LSU – 6th-7th Round (3-4 DE)
17. Mike Neal – Purdue – Mid 5th-7th Round
18. Earl Mitchell – Arizona – 6th Round-UDFA (NT)
19. Aleric Mullins – North Carolina – 7th Round-UDFA (NT)
20. Doug Worthington – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA (3-4 DE)

Outside Linebackers
Luckily we got to see a lot Outside Linebackers as the position got full participation from the top eleven on my board here. A guy that really impressed me was Sean Weatherspoon from Missouri. I’ve been a fan of Spoon’s but I didn’t expect that he was going to turn in such a strong workout at 6’1 ¼ 239; in addition to showing good hips and lateral ability, he showed power (34 reps), speed (4.68), and explosiveness (40” vert). We may have to wait until Texas’ Pro Day to see Sergio Kindle live up to his workout hype, but the 6’2 7/8 250 pound backer showed good feet and tremendous upper body power. A lot of people came away very impressed by Penn State’s Navorro Bowman in Indy as he showed good hips, nimble feet, and looked agile at 242, ten pounds more than I had anticipated. We did get to see TCU’s Daryl Washington do a full workout which had its ups and downs. Washington is very lean, with a thin lower body and little muscle mass in his arms but he has quick feet, very fluid hips, good speed, and great ball skills for a Linebacker.

South Carolina’s Eric Norwood looks good on film, weighed in at a bulky 6’0 7/8 245, and looked more smooth and athletic than most imagined. I’m not sure how high Florida State’s Dekoda Watson could go after the workout he had, one that included a 4.56 40, a 40” vertical, and ran his short shuttle in 4.11. At 6’1 3/8 240 Watson’s not the biggest guy, but he weighed in bigger than I thought he would and has a very high draft ceiling. A pair of underclassmen converted Defensive Ends Ohio State’s Thaddeus Gibson and Virginia Tech’s Jason Worilds were among the standouts. Gibson showed plenty of athleticism in drills & testing and he wowed scouts with 32 Bench Reps. Worilds, the thicker of the two, timed at 4.72 and proved to be an explosive athlete that will get mostly looks at Outside LB in 3-4 schemes. Clemson’s Ricky Sapp profiles as a 3-4 Outside Linebacker but must add bulk to his frame to play at the NFL level. Though Sapp proved to be fluid and agile, he didn’t show the explosiveness that would have warranted early Round consideration. James Madison’s Arthur Moats is a converted end moving up my board as an explosive (4.66) athlete with a good pass rushing pedigree in FCS ball. Moats only measures 6’0 ¼ 246 but has 33 3/4 “ arms, speed off the edge, and should start to get consideration in the Mid-Rounds.

After injuring his ACL at the Senior Bowl, Wisconsin’s O’Brien Schofield skipped the bench press and 40 yard dash but he did do some position drills. Schofield weighed in at only 221 pounds, 21 less than the East-West Shrine game just a month ago. Georgia’s Rennie Curran was rumored in the 4.5-4.6 range but could only manage a low 4.7 and at only 5’10 5/8 that’d going to push him down a bit to the Mid Rounds. Clemson’s Kavell Conner and Oregon State’s Keaton Kristick both had good showings’ in Indy, displaying good athleticism and speed (4.63 for Conner.) Oklahoma’s Keenan Clayton really looked athletic running a 4.66 and offering the Linebackers’ top vertical jump at 41.5”. UCLA’s Kyle Bosworth has a shot at getting drafted and looked very quick & fluid with good feet and hips. Tennessee’s Rico McCoy was not invited to the NFL Combine surprisingly, so we’ll see what he’s got on his Pro Day.

1. Sean Weatherspoon – Missouri – Top 20 pick (ILB)
2. Sergio Kindle – Texas – Top 25 pick*
3. Navorro Bowman – Penn State – Early 2nd-Early 3rd*
4. Daryl Washington - TCU - Second Round (ILB)
5. Thaddeus Gibson - Ohio State - Early 2nd-Early 3rd*
6. Koa Misi – Utah – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Eric Norwood – South Carolina – Early 3rd-Mid 4th
8. Jason Worilds – Virginia Tech – Late 2nd-Late 3rd*
9. Dekoda Watson – Florida State – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
10. Ricky Sapp – Clemson – Second Round
11. A.J. Edds – Iowa – Late 3rd-Late 4th
12. Arthur Moats – James Madison – Late 4th-Early 6th
13. Rennie Curran - Georgia - Mid 4th-Mid 5th
14. O’Brien Schofield – Wisconsin – Mid 4th-Late 5th
15. Kavell Conner – Clemson – Early 5th-6th Round
16. Keaton Kristick – Oregon State – 6th-7th Round
17. Justin Cole – San Jose State – 6th-7th Round
18. Keenan Clayton – Oklahoma – 6th-7th Round
19. Rico McCoy – Tennessee – 6th Round-UDFA
20. Cameron Sheffield – Troy – 7th Round-UDFA


Inside Linebackers
The 2010 NFL Combine wasn’t particularly exciting for the Inside Linebackers as Alabama’s Rolando McClain chose not to participate, Brandon Spikes didn’t run the 40-Yard Dash, and we didn’t get to see a full workout from Donald Butler. At his pro day McClain will have to run well and show good hips to be drafted in the Top 12 in April, but still looks destined to be drafted in the first 18 picks. Though he didn’t do a full workout, Florida’s Brandon Spikes participated in the position drills. He has a very thick, filled out frame and shows the ability to play the ball in the air but it’s obvious he’s not quite as fast, nimble, or explosive as a typical top Linebacker prospect. Washington’s Donald Butler also didn’t do a full workout but wowed evaluators with a thick, muscular body at 6’1 245 and showed power & endurance putting up 35 reps of 225.

Linebacker “U” has yet another versatile, blue-collar prospect this year in Sean Lee. Overall Lee had a very good workout showing surprising agility and explosiveness; his stock will also get a boost due to the fact that he could bring value on the Weakside, Inside, and Special Teams. Mississippi State’s Jamar Chaney had one of the most impressive workouts for Inside Backers. Chaney has a compact, strong buikd at 6’0 ¾ 242 with long arms, great speed (4.54), explosiveness (39” vert), and power with 26 reps at 225. Pat Angerer from Iowa disappointed me a bit with his low 4.7 as I expected the undersized (6’0 ¼ 235), productive backer closer to a mid-late 4.5 time. Though Boston College’s Mike McLaughlin lacks height (6’0 ¼) and timed speed he had some impressive numbers in Indy putting up 29 reps, a 38.5” vertical, a 4.11 short shuttle, and the best 3-Cone time among LBs at 6.85. Though his film is pretty good, Miami’s Daryl Sharpton was unable to stand out at the Combine and his stock will likely drop after measuring in at 5’11 3/8 with a 4.8 40.

1. Rolando McClain – Alabama – Top 20 pick*
3. Brandon Spikes – Florida – Early 2nd-Early 3rd
3. Donald Butler – Washington – Early 3rd-Early 4th
4. Sean Lee – Penn State – Mid 3rd-Early 4th (OLB)
5. Jamar Chaney – Mississippi State – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
6. Roddrick Muckelroy – Texas – Late 4th-Mid 5th (OLB)
7. Pat Angerer – Iowa – Early 5th-7th Round
8. Mike McLaughlin – Boston College – 6th-7th Round
9. Daryl Sharpton – Miami (Fl.) – 6th Round-UDFA (OLB)
10. Nathan Triplett - Minnesota - 7th Round-UDFA

Cornerbacks
Some would agree that the Combine workouts, especially the positional drills, are particularly important for Defensive Backs. This year was no different and at many times it was easy to identify the cream of the crop. Florida’s Joe Haden entered Indianapolis a Top 10 prospect, though after posting a 4.57 (unofficial 40) it looks like he is more destined to between 11-15. Ultimately Haden’s 40 time isn’t too big a deal as he had a good workout showed great feet, burst, and change of direction skills (hips). Kyle Wilson from Boise State didn’t workout but looked the part measuring in at 5’11 194 and turning in 25 reps of 225, he may be cementing himself as the #2 Corner. Turning in some of the best workouts were Devin McCourty of Rutgers and Kareem Jackson of Alabama. McCourty showed to be particularly athletic and flew through almost every drill displaying his hips, great fluidity, speed, and surprising ball skills; he should prove to be one of the big winners at Cornerback and could be considered in late Round One. Kareem Jackson likely will have his name called in the Second, he isn’t the biggest of guys (only 5’10 ½ with 30” arms), but he had a real solid Combine workout. Jackson kept his feet moving, looked good moving his hips, has a strong build, and did a good job adjusting to & catching balls away from his body.

Though he’s not a burner and he certainly wasn’t perfect in his positional drills Michigan’s Donovan Warren should still draw consideration in the Second. Warren looked a bit high-hipped at times but showed great feet and ball skills, looking very natural breaking on the ball. Oklahoma’s Dominique Franks was one of the group’s most fluid athletes and Patrick Robinson had the best ball skills & looked smooth. One guy building some momentum through the Senior Bowl and Combine is Virginia’s Chris Cook. At 6’2 212 with a 4.46 Official 40 and an incredible 11’0 broad jump it’s looking like Cook’s one of the more physically gifted corners in this class that brings value as a Free Safety. Wake Forest’s Brandon Ghee and Indiana’s (Pa.) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah looked more fluid in drills and both turned in sub 4.5 times of their own in Mobile. UCLA’s Alterraun Verner is a guy I liked in college but even I was impressed by his ability to change direction, the quickness of his backpedal & feet, and looked good playing the ball.

Amari Spievey from Iowa is a guy I really expected more out of and his lackluster performance pushes him down the board. Spievey struggled in positional drills changing direction, played high-hipped, and just doesn’t look to have quite the foot quickness of some others in his group. Clemson’s Crezdon Butler (5’11 ¾ 191) and Fresno State’s A.J. Jefferson (6’0 1/8 193) profile as tall, athletic corners with upside at the next level and both showed fluidity & nimble feet as well as the ability to attack the ball in the air. Two more guys that shined in the Defensive Back positional drills were Purdue’s David Pender and Kansas State’s Josh Moore who each lack bulk but are fluid & very quick. Productive Kentucky corner Trevard Lindley really struggled to show straight-line speed and fluid hips though he’s got good feet and some of the best ball skills in the class. Alabama’s Javier Arenas and Oregon’s Walter Thurmond joined Wilson among those that didn’t work out.

1. Joe Haden – Florida – Top 15 pick*
2. Kyle Wilson – Boise State – Late 1st-Early 2nd
3. Devin McCourty – Rutgers – Late 1st-Early 2nd
4. Perrish Cox – Oklahoma State – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
5. Kareem Jackson – Alabama – Second Round*
6. Donovan Warren – Michigan – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd*
7. Dominique Franks – Oklahoma – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd*
8. Patrick Robinson – Florida State – Mid-Late 2nd
9. Chris Cook – Virginia – Late 2nd-Late 3rd (FS)
10. Brandon Ghee – Wake Forest – Early 3rd-Early 4th
11. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah – Indiana (Pa.) – Early 3rd-Mid 4th
12. Jerome Murphy – South Florida – Fourth Round
13. Alterraun Verner – UCLA – Late 4th-Late 5th
14. Amari Spievey – Iowa – Early 4th-Early 5th*
15. Javier Arenas – Alabama – Late 4th-Early 6th
16. Crezdon Butler – Clemson – Early 5th-6th Round
17. A.J. Jefferson – Fresno State – Late 4th-6th Round
18. David Pender – Purdue – 5th-7th Round
19. Josh Moore – Kansas State – 6th-7th Round
20. Syd’Quan Thompson – California – 5th-7th Round
21. Trevard Lindley – Kentucky – 6th Round-UDFA
22. Walter Thurmond III – Oregon – 7th Round-UDFA
23. Myron Lewis – Vanderbilt – 7th Round-UDFA
24. Chris Chancellor – Clemson – 7th Round-UDFA
25. Kevin Thomas – USC – 7th Round-UDFA

Safeties
As I said with the corners, positional drills at the Combine are particularly telling for Safeties whether they are in-the-box thumpers or rangy free safeties. Tennessee’s Eric Berry weighed in bigger than anyone expected (5’11 5/8 211) and still managed to clock under 4.5 in the 40 and turned in a 43” vertical. In the positional drills Berry continued to look the part, showing the feet, hips, explosiveness, and ball skills of an elite Free Safety or Cornerback prospect. Texas’ Earl Thomas is another CB/FS tweener that came to the Combine bulked up (208) and he looked good in his positional drills showing the hips & feet we all expected, though he surprisingly had occasional trouble catching the ball. Taylor Mays from USC was the talk of the Combine after he turned in an unofficial 4.24 at 6’3 1/8 230. Mays showed legitimate 4.3 speed, explosiveness, and plenty of power though if he wants to play Safety in the NFL he’s going to have to sink his hips when changing direction and refine/quicken his backpedal. There has been some talk of the Top 10 for Mays, and some Late-1st talk, but I expected to see him off the board in the 10-20 range.

Nebraska’s Larry Asante doesn’t bring quite the bulk you’d expect at 6’0 212, but he’s surprising fluid, nimble, and looked great flipping his hips & playing the ball in position drills. Chad Jones out of LSU was one disappointment among the Safeties. Jones looked great adjusting to the ball and catching away from his body but he showed very average feet, hips, and displayed little speed or explosiveness in drills. A solid performance was turned in by Kansas’ Darrell Stuckey who looked great mechanically with a quick backpedal, impressive hips, and looked good playing the ball in the air. Florida’s Major Wright opened some eyes with a 4.48 40 but did nothing further to stand out in drills. Another underclassman, Reshad Jones of Georgia, impressed with a good, strong build, he had 24 reps of 225, and he did a nice job tracking & catching the ball in drills though he doesn’t bring a ton of speed, explosiveness, or natural athleticism. Florida State’s Myron Rolle brings a strong academic pedigree, a force against the run on the field, and good technique however he definitely appeared a bit slow in his backpedal, in a straight-line, and lacks closing/recovery speed for an NFL Safety.

A guy that surprised me a bit with his quickness and bulk was Virginia Tech’s Kam Chancellor. Somewhat of a OLB/SS tweener , Chancellor is capable of staying low and has quick feet but he lacks the range and ball skills of an NFL Safety. Ohio State’s Kurt Coleman is undersized (5’10 ¼ 192) with a small frame and average straight-line speed but he had some of the best positional drills with great feet, terrific explosiveness, and showed the ability to attack & catch the ball. Jonathan Amaya from Nevada really impressed with his speed, explosiveness, and fluidity at 6’0 ¾ 203 and looks like a guy that may have value at Cornerback. I’m not sure where Notre Dame’s Kyle McCarthy will fit in NFL schemes with below average speed, but smooth feet and ball skills. Georgia Tech’s Morgan Burnett, South Florida’s Nate Allen, and USC’s Josh Pinkard are a few that didn’t work out in Indy while Maryland’s Terrell Skinner wasn’t invited.

1. Eric Berry – Tennessee – Top 10 pick* (CB)
2. Earl Thomas – Texas – Top 25 pick*
3. Taylor Mays – USC – Top 20 pick (OLB)
4. Larry Asante – Nebraska – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
5. Morgan Burnett – Georgia Tech – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd*
6. Chad Jones – LSU – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd*
7. Darrell Stuckey – Kansas – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
8. Nate Allen – South Florida – Early 3rd-Early 4th
9. Major Wright – Florida – Late 2nd-Early 4th
10. Reshad Jones – Georgia – Early 3rd-Early 4th
11. T.J. Ward – Oregon – Early 5th-6th Round
12. Terrell Skinner – Maryland – Early 5th-6th Round (CB)
13. Myron Rolle – Florida State – 5th-6th Round
14. Kam Chancellor – Virginia Tech – Early 5th-6th Round (OLB)
15. Kurt Coleman – Ohio State – 6th-7th Round
16. Barry Church – Toledo – 6th Round-UDFA
17. Jonathan Amaya – Nevada – 6th Round-UDFA
18. Kyle McCarthy – Notre Dame – 7th Round-UDFA
19. Kendrick Lewis – Mississippi – 7th Round-UDFA
20. Josh Pinkard – USC – 7th Round-UDFA

Specialists
1. Zoltan Mesko – Punter - Michigan
2. Leigh Tiffin – Kicker – Alabama
3. Trindon Holliday – Return Specialist – LSU
4. Aaron Pettrey – Kicker – Ohio State
5. Matt Dodge – Punter – East Carolina


- Top 200 – Post-Combine -

1. Gerald McCoy – DT – Oklahoma*
2. Ndamukong Suh – DT – Nebraska
3. Sam Bradford – QB – Oklahoma*
4. Dez Bryant – WR – Oklahoma State*
5. Eric Berry – S – Tennessee*
6. Russell Okung – OT – Oklahoma State
7. Jimmy Clausen – QB – Notre Dame*
8. Brandon Graham – DE/LB – Michigan
9. Anthony Davis - OT - Rutgers*
10. Joe Haden – CB – Florida*
11. Sean Weatherspoon – OLB – Missouri
12. C.J. Spiller - RB - Clemson
13. Jason Pierre-Paul – DE – South Florida*
14. Jermaine Gresham – TE – Oklahoma
15. Trent Williams – OT – Oklahoma
16. Rolando McClain – ILB – Alabama*
17. Brian Price – DT – UCLA*
18. Earl Thomas – S – Texas*
19. Bryan Bulaga – OT – Iowa*
20. Derrick Morgan – DE – Georgia Tech*
21. Taylor Mays – S – USC
22. Dan Williams – NT – Tennessee
23. Everson Griffen – DE/OLB – USC*
24. Terrance Cody – NT – Alabama*
25. Sergio Kindle - OLB - Texas
26. Golden Tate – WR – Notre Dame*
27. Kyle Wilson – CB – Boise State
28. Jahvid Best – RB – California*
29. Mike Iupati – OG – Idaho
30. Demaryius Thomas - WR - Georgia Tech*
31. Jerry Hughes – DE/OLB – TCU
32. Devin McCourty – CB – Rutgers
33. Perrish Cox – CB – Oklahoma State
34. Rob Gronkowski – TE – Arizona*
35. Damian Williams – WR – USC*
36. Lamarr Houston – DT – Texas
37. Maurkice Pouncey – C/OG – Florida*
38. Jared Odrick – DT/DE – Penn State
39. Navorro Bowman – OLB – Penn State*
40. Kareem Jackson – CB – Alabama*
41. Mardy Gilyard – WR – Cincinnati
42. Arrelious Benn – WR – Illinois*
43. Brandon LaFell – WR – LSU
44. Carlos Dunlap – DE – Florida*
45. Ryan Matthews – RB – Fresno State*
46. Daryl Washington – LB – TCU
47. Roger Saffold - OG/OT - Indiana
48. Brandon Spikes – ILB – Florida
49. Donovan Warren – CB – Michigan*
50. Dominique Franks – CB – Oklahoma*

51. Thaddeus Gibson - OLB - Ohio State*
52. Bruce Campbell – OT – Maryland*
53. Patrick Robinson – CB – Florida State
54. Aaron Hernandez – TE/H-B – Florida*
55. Charles Brown – OT – USC
56. Larry Asante – S – Nebraska
57. Koa Misi – OLB – Utah
58. Anthony Dixon – RB – Mississippi State
59. Alex Carrington – DE – Arkansas State
60. Vladimir Ducasse – OG/OT – Massachusetts
61. John Jerry - OG - Mississippi
62. Ben Tate - RB - Auburn
63. Tyson Alualu - DT/DE - California
64. Geno Atkins - DT - Georgia
65. Morgan Burnett – S – Georgia Tech*
66. Arthur Jones – DT – Syracuse
67. Chris Cook – CB/S – Virginia
68. Toby Gerhart – RB – Stanford
69. Eric Norwood – OLB – South Carolina
70. Chad Jones – S – LSU*
71. Tim Tebow - QB - Florida
72. Montario Hardesty - RB - Tennessee
73. Jason Worilds – OLB – Virginia Tech*
74. Darrell Stuckey – S - Kansas
75. Dekoda Watson – OLB – Florida State
76. Cam Thomas – NT – North Carolina
77. Brandon Ghee – CB – Wake Forest
78. Jonathan Dwyer – RB – Georgia Tech*
79. Andre Roberts – WR – The Citadel
80. Nate Allen – S – South Florida
81. Ed Dickson – TE – Oregon
82. Donald Butler – ILB – Washington
83. Colt McCoy - QB - Texas
84. Torrell Troup – DT – Central Florida
85. Sean Lee – LB – Penn State
86. Anthony McCoy - TE - USC
87. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah – CB – Indiana (Pa.)
88. Corey Wootton – DE – Northwestern
89. Jimmy Graham – TE – Miami (Fl.)
90. Ricky Sapp - OLB - Clemson
91. Dexter McCluster - RB/WR - Mississippi
92. Major Wright – S – Florida*
93. Jacoby Ford – WR - Clemson
94. Reshad Jones – S – Georgia*
95. Linval Joseph – DT/NT – East Carolina*
96. Jordan Shipley – WR – Texas
97. Mike Johnson – OG - Alabama
98. Jared Veldheer – OT – Hillsdale
99. Jason Fox – OT – Miami (Fl.)
100. Jeremy Williams – WR - Tulane

101. A.J. Edds – OLB – Iowa
102. Greg Hardy – DE – Mississippi
103. Jon Asamoah – OG – Illinois
104. Riley Cooper – WR – Florida
105. Tony Washington - OT - Abilene Christian
106. Matt Tennant – C – Boston College
107. Dan LeFevour – QB – Central Michigan
108. Jermaine Cunningham – DE – Florida
109. Jamar Chaney – ILB – Mississippi State
110. Garrett Graham – TE/H-B – Wisconsin
111. Carlton Mitchell – WR – South Florida*
112. Jerome Murphy – CB – South Florida
113. Marshall Newhouse – OG/OT – TCU
114. James Starks – RB – Buffalo
115. Jeff Owens – DT/NT - Georgia
116. Jarrett Brown – QB – West Virginia
117. Michael Hoomanawanui – TE – Illinois
118. D’Anthony Smith – DT – Louisiana Tech
119. Colin Peek – TE - Alabama
120. J.D. Walton – C – Baylor
121. Brandon Deadrick – DE/DT - Alabama
122. Alterraun Verner – CB – UCLA
123. Arthur Moats – OLB – James Madison
124. Rennie Curran – OLB – Georgia
125. John Skelton – QB – Fordham
126. Amari Spievey – CB – Iowa*
127. Daniel Te’o Nesheim – DE – Washington
128. Dennis Pitta – TE - BYU
129. O’Brien Schofield – OLB – Wisconsin
130. Joe McKnight – RB – USC*
131. Tony Moeaki – TE/H-B – Iowa
132. Shawn Lauvao – OG – Arizona State
133. Keith Toston – RB – Oklahoma State
134. Chris Scott – OG/OT – Tennessee
135. Clay Harbor – TE/H-B – Missouri State
136. Javier Arenas – CB – Alabama
137. Austen Lane – DE – Murray State
138. Mitch Petrus – OG – Arkansas
139. LeGarrette Blount – RB – Oregon
140. Roddrick Muckelroy – LB - Texas
141. Jevan Snead – QB – Mississippi*
142. Selvish Capers – OT – West Virginia
143. Dezmon Briscoe – WR – Kansas*
144. Andrew Quarless – TE – Penn State
145. T.J. Ward – S – Oregon
146. Eric Olsen – C/OG – Notre Dame
147. Terrell Skinner – S/CB – Maryland
148. Mike Kafka - QB - Northwestern
149. Blair White – WR – Michigan State
150. Nathan Overbay – TE – Eastern Washington

151. Lindsey Witten – DE/OLB – Connecticut
152. Javarris James – RB – Miami (Fl.)
153. Kavell Conner – OLB – Clemson
154. Crezdon Butler – CB – Clemson
155. Myron Rolle – S – Florida State
156. A.J. Jefferson – CB – Fresno State
157. Zoltan Mesko – P – Michigan
158. Kyle Calloway – OT/OG - Iowa
159. George Selvie – DE/OLB – South Florida
160. Rashawn Jackson – FB – Virginia
161. David Pender – CB - Purdue
162. Kam Chancellor – S/LB – Virginia Tech
163. Pat Angerer – ILB – Iowa
164. Levi Brown – QB - Troy
165. Shelley Smith – OG – Colorado State
166. Danario Alexander – WR – Missouri
167. Joique Bell – RB – Wayne State
168. Zane Beadles – OG/OT – Utah
169. Dorin Dickerson – WR/H-B - Pittsburgh
170. Kurt Coleman – S – Ohio State
171. Zac Robinson – QB – Oklahoma State
172. Al Woods – DT – LSU
173. Freddie Barnes – WR – Bowling Green
174. Tony Pike – QB – Cincinnati
175. Mike Neal – DT - Purdue
176. John Conner – FB – Kentucky
177. Josh Moore – CB – Kansas State
178. Dorian Brooks – OG – James Madison
179. Kevin Haslam – OT – Rutgers
180. Mike Williams – WR - Syracuse
181. Stafon Johnson – RB – USC
182. Antonio Brown – WR – Central Michigan
183. Clifton Geathers – DE –South Carolina
184. Jonathan Crompton – QB - Tennessee
185. Syd'Quan Thompson - CB - California
186. Keaton Kristick – OLB – Oregon State
187. Justin Cole – OLB – San Jose State
188. Jeff Fitzgerald – DE – Kansas State
189. Ciron Black – OT/OG – LSU
180. Chris DeGeare – OG – Wake Forest
191. Naaman Roosevelt – WR – Buffalo
192. Trevard Lindley – CB - Kentucky
193. Hall Davis – DE – Louisiana-Lafayette
194. Joe Webb – WR – UAB
195. C.J. Wilson – DE – East Carolina
196. Lonyae Miller – RB – Fresno State
197. Earl Mitchell – DT/NT – Arizona
198. Walter Thurmond III – CB – Oregon
199. Barry Church – S – Toledo
200. Taylor Price – WR – Ohio
201. Armanti Edwards – QB/WR – Appalachian State

prock
03-05-2010, 05:01 PM
pudge is a champ

ElectricEye
03-05-2010, 06:08 PM
Extremely good information there, very comprehensive assessment of it all. I see the runningbacks differently, I would swap Dixon and Hardesty, but great job overall. Best poster on this site right now by far.

princefielder28
03-05-2010, 06:14 PM
Once again, great job Pudge!

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 12:08 AM
Extremely good information there, very comprehensive assessment of it all. I see the runningbacks differently, I would swap Dixon and Hardesty, but great job overall. Best poster on this site right now by far.

It's hard to really explain my infatuation with Dixon, he's just a guy I've always really liked as a back. Though he likely will be drafted in the Third or later I think he'll be an effective pro back with the potential to carry the load in a couple years.

FUNBUNCHER
03-06-2010, 12:18 AM
Love how you show your work, Pudge!!!

Even when I don't agree on a few players, somehow you manage to convince me to give certain prospects a 2nd look.

Rep party at Pudge's house!!!

thetedginnshow
03-06-2010, 12:23 AM
Nice work! Interested to know why you have Mike Neal so low.

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 12:28 AM
Nice work! Interested to know why you have Mike Neal so low.

I see guys like Neal year in and year out. He's a blue-collar player, a tough guy, but one that doesn't do anything particularly special. He's not a gap holder, not is he a penetrator so I think he's kind of caught in that backup DT image for scouts. I like him enough to draft him, but I wouldn't go looking at him before the Mid 5th. He really proved himself a draft-worthy prospect at the Senior Bowl, Shrine Game, and Combine. I like him, I just don't think NFL coaches/scouts will have any big plans for him.

Flyboy
03-06-2010, 12:39 AM
I might not agree with all your rankings, but that definitely made me all warm in the pants.

thetedginnshow
03-06-2010, 12:59 AM
I see guys like Neal year in and year out. He's a blue-collar player, a tough guy, but one that doesn't do anything particularly special. He's not a gap holder, not is he a penetrator so I think he's kind of caught in that backup DT image for scouts. I like him enough to draft him, but I wouldn't go looking at him before the Mid 5th. He really proved himself a draft-worthy prospect at the Senior Bowl, Shrine Game, and Combine. I like him, I just don't think NFL coaches/scouts will have any big plans for him.

I see. Of course, I wasn't really talking about the draft consideration (though I do think he'll go higher than where you project), and more so about where you have him ranked. There just seems to me to be at least five DTs you have above him that I don't particularly think are on his level.

Everything else I don't disagree with too much, but that was just something that stuck out to me. I guess we'll see in the future!

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 01:03 AM
I might not agree with all your rankings, but that definitely made me all warm in the pants.

The way I see it all 32 teams will have a different draft board and disagreements are what make the draft unpredictable year to year. That said, I embrace different opinions. If there's anything you need a bit of reasoning on just let me know.

LizardState
03-06-2010, 10:20 AM
Big props again to The Pudge for his comprehensive overview.

I know it's underwhelming & ho-hum to write about those for whom we have no stats b/c they didnt work out, but that fact alone needed to be pointed out as it was noted by the NFL scouts.

the_dark_knight
03-06-2010, 10:48 AM
I don't agree it all, but man that's a lot of work + from me no doubt!

Grizzlegom
03-06-2010, 11:40 AM
one guy I'm really surprised you didn't mention in your write-up that you still have rated pretty high is Chad Jones of LSU. You seemed to let combine workouts affect a few of the players pretty positively or negatively yet he's one of the guys that really bombed the combine and you don't have him sliding down. From what I saw, he didn't look great in drills and had only 9 reps in the weight room to go along with a slower-than-expected 40. In addition, I've been hearing that in interviews, he didn't sound too committed to football and that baseball was still an option for him. He is still one of the best athletes in this draft but I have a hard time believing he'll come off the board in the 2nd anymore.

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 11:56 AM
one guy I'm really surprised you didn't mention in your write-up that you still have rated pretty high is Chad Jones of LSU. You seemed to let combine workouts affect a few of the players pretty positively or negatively yet he's one of the guys that really bombed the combine and you don't have him sliding down. From what I saw, he didn't look great in drills and had only 9 reps in the weight room to go along with a slower-than-expected 40. In addition, I've been hearing that in interviews, he didn't sound too committed to football and that baseball was still an option for him. He is still one of the best athletes in this draft but I have a hard time believing he'll come off the board in the 2nd anymore.

"Chad Jones out of LSU was one disappointment among the Safeties. Jones looked great adjusting to the ball and catching away from his body but he showed very average feet, hips, and displayed little speed or explosiveness in drills." - I agree he dropped the ball at the Combine. I wouldn't draft him in the 2nd either and I lowered him to an Early 3rd value on my board (69). Whoever comes out of this draft with Jones better have a great DB coach and some time.

Supporting Caste
03-06-2010, 12:00 PM
Montario Hardesty is way too low on that list, and I can't fathom how anyone would consider drafting Colt McCoy at all.

brat316
03-06-2010, 12:24 PM
Nice work, yeah i'm disappointed that some of the other round 2 safeties didn't workout.

JRTPlaya21
03-06-2010, 01:30 PM
Been looking forward to this. Always a pleasure Pudge.

ToldLikeItIs
03-06-2010, 03:07 PM
It looks to me like you've discredited every Iowa player at the combine this year. Well done Pudge.

Your rankings on Spievey, Moeaki, and Angerer are laughable.

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 03:22 PM
It looks to me like you've discredited every Iowa player at the combine this year. Well done Pudge.

Your rankings on Spievey, Moeaki, and Angerer are laughable.

That's exactly what I aimed at doing. Angerer failed to meet expectations and NFL standards and the DB workouts exposed some real flaws in Amari Spievey's mechanics & quickness.

iowatreat54
03-06-2010, 03:30 PM
That's exactly what I aimed at doing. Angerer failed to meet expectations and NFL standards and the DB workouts exposed some real flaws in Amari Spievey's mechanics & quickness.

Several teams have said Spievey is a first/second round talent, and Angerer exceeded expectations in his 40 and coverage drills.

What did those two players do poorly on? I haven't heard anything, so I'm interested.

I know Spievey didn't do any strength or agility drills, but have read that he had very fluid hip movement in the coverage drills, as well as showed good ability to go out and catch balls with his hands.

As for Angerer, someone posted a link that said this about him as a combine winner:
Pat Angerer, LB, Iowa. Previously considered a stiff and limited athlete, Angerer ran much better than expected and looked quicker and more athletic in drills. He came to the Combine as a late-round possibility but left with a fourth- or fifth-round grade.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-03-02/nfl-combine-winners-and-losers-defense

ToldLikeItIs
03-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Moeaki is being looked at by several teams as a 2nd/3rd rounder as well.

The Falcons in particular.

V.I.P
03-06-2010, 03:36 PM
Nice write up, terrific job Pudge.

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 03:43 PM
Several teams have said Spievey is a first/second round talent, and Angerer exceeded expectations in his 40 and coverage drills.

What did those two players do poorly on? I haven't heard anything, so I'm interested.

I know Spievey didn't do any strength or agility drills, but have read that he had very fluid hip movement in the coverage drills, as well as showed good ability to go out and catch balls with his hands.



TSN has by far the worst draft info on the net.

Many around the Iowa program (and Told) expected Pat Angerer in the mid 4.5s, I expected at worst low 4.6. At the Combine he turned in a low 4.7 and in no way would I consider that exceeding expectations. I'm not sold he can be a good coverage LB in the NFL at only 6'0 1/4 with short 30 1/2" arms. He didn't really stand out in any tests/drills and I'm not sure teams will see him as depth/ST or a starter... My bet would be depth/ST.

You must have read some bad reports on Spievey as he really struggled. As I wrote above "Amari Spievey from Iowa is a guy I really expected more out of and his lackluster performance pushes him down the board. Spievey struggled in positional drills changing direction, played high-hipped, and just doesn’t look to have quite the foot quickness of some others in his group." His tape still makes him a mid rounder with the chance to redeem himself and get back into the 3rd, but he's far from a first round pick and really didn't look good in Indy.

I don't know what in the world makes Tony Moeaki a 2nd/3rd Round pick. At 6'3 245 he's not overly big, athletic, and he wasn't very productive as a Hawkeye. He's more likely a late-round option at this point with some potential to move up into the mid rounds.

ToldLikeItIs
03-06-2010, 03:46 PM
They all did really well at the combine. That's the thing. Moeaki probably helped himself the most.

Articles are wrong, and Pudge is right?

golota
03-06-2010, 03:55 PM
2010 NFL Draft – Post Combine Rankings

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Quarterbacks
Why the big move up for Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford in my rankings? It’s because I am starting to see the total package after revisiting film and watching him weigh in (6’4 ¼ 236) & answer questions about his injured shoulder. It appears the shoulder is at 85% right now, he’s throwing over 100 passes in his sessions and it’s holding up great; by the time camp starts or contact starts (in August) Bradford will be 100% and ready. He has the look of a player that could bring wins to a franchise and is my current favorite for the #1 Overall Pick to St. Louis. Like Bradford, Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen didn’t work out in Indy and will wait to throw at his Pro Day. I’m uncertain if NFL teams think of Clausen as a Top 5 guy and it looks more likely he’ll be in that 6-10 range on draft day. The story is the same for Texas’ Colt McCoy (who weighed in at only 6’1 1/8) and we’ll have to wait until his Pro Day as well. Though he also didn’t throw in Indy, Florida’s Tim Tebow did the athletic tests and had great success posting QB highs in the vertical (38.5”), the short shuttle (4.17), the long shuttle (11.27), and posted an incredible 6.66 3-Cone time. Before I jump to any conclusions about Tebow’s draft stock I’m going to have to check out this new motion and how he throws at his Pro Day.

On the field no Quarterback really stood out though West Virginia’s Jarrett Brown posted a great 40 time (4.54) and Central Michigan’s Dan LeFevour was able to show his athleticism at 6’3 ¼ 230. Nothing I saw would change my opinions that John Skelton, Jevan Snead, and Levi Brown are anything more than mid-round picks at best. Zac Robinson and Tony Pike were also unspectacular in Indianapolis as were late-undrafted options Mike Kafka and Sean Canfield. It should be interesting to follow the QB Pro Days as Tennessee’s Jonathan Crompton, Appalachian State’s Armanti Edwards, and Eastern Washington’s Matt Nichols will be working out then. Nothing much is settled (or strong) in this class except for the top where Bradford & Clausen may have franchise potential.

1. Sam Bradford – Oklahoma – Top 5 pick*
2. Jimmy Clausen – Notre Dame – Top 10 pick*
3. Colt McCoy – Texas – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd
4. Tim Tebow – Florida – Mid 2nd-Early 4th
5. Dan LeFevour – Central Michigan – Late 3rd-Early 5th
6. Jarrett Brown – West Virginia – Mid 3rd-Early 5th
7. John Skelton – Fordham – Early 4th-Late 5th
8. Jevan Snead – Mississippi – Early 5th-6th Round
9. Levi Brown – Troy – 6th-7th Round
10. Zac Robinson – Oklahoma State – 6th-7th Round
11. Tony Pike – Cincinnati – Late 4th-7th Round
12. Jonathan Crompton – Tennessee – 6th-7th Round
13. Armanti Edwards – Appalachain State – 6th Round-UDFA
14. Matt Nichols – Eastern Washington – 7th Round-UDFA
15. Mike Kafka – Northwestern – 7th Round-UDFA
16. Sean Canfield – Oregon State – UDFA
17. Daryll Clark – Penn State – UDFA
18. Rusty Smith – Florida Atlantic - UDFA
19. Tim Hiller – Western Michigan – UDFA
20. Max Hall – BYU – UDFA

Running Backs
The 2010 NFL Combine came and went for the Running Backs with few changes at the top. Clemson’s C.J. Spiller measured in at only 196 pounds and didn’t do a full workout, but he did run the 40 with a time of 4.37. California’s Jahvid Best, another sub-200 back (199) ran the fastest 40 at the position (4.35) and should receive consideration toward the end of the first despite concussion concerns. Fresno State’s Ryan Matthews is a player moving up the boards and turned in a great workout in Indy with a 4.45 40 at 5’11 5/8 218. Matthews is largely thought to be the class’ most complete back, showing a little bit of everything under coach Pat Hill; it appears he could go as early as the First Round though I have more of a Mid-Second grade on him. Auburn’s Ben Tate was perhaps the position’s greatest standout at the Combine and took momentum from a strong Senior season & week at the Senior Bowl. If given a good situation Tate could be a surprise to some as he does have a second gear (4.43), explosiveness (40.5” vert & 10’4 broad), quickness, & fluidity all at 220. There is a chance that a team in the Mid-Late 2nd is intrigued by feature back potential and as evidenced all season there might be some hope there; at worst he should be a serviceable back in a north-south offense.

Two guys at opposite ends of the spectrum are Stanford’s Toby Gerhart and Georgia Tech’s Jonathan Dwyer. Gerhart had a great weekend at the Combine showing great physique at 6’0 1/8 231 and he really tested well with a 38” vert, a 9’10 broad, and impressive times in the short shuttle (4.25) and 3-Cone (6.94). Ultimately, if you came in with questions about his speed & ability to break the big run, you’re still going to have those concerns at the end of the day; but, Gerhart had a great workout and draw interest as early as the Mid 2nd though I have him graded right in the Early 3rd as a prospect. Dwyer managed to look out of shape and really lacked speed & explosiveness; he failed to stand out in any way and could be looking at a fall to the Mid 3rd, perhaps even the 4th Round unless he improves greatly at his Pro Day. Mississippi’s Dexter McCluster was very quick & fluid as expected though his slow 4.58 40 will alarm some. Tennessee’s Montario Hardesty (5’11 ¾ 225) & Buffalo’s James Starks (6’2 1/8 218) are two big backs that will come off the boards in the middle rounds and each possess enough explosiveness and athleticism to capture good roles on teams. Hardesty ran a 4.49 and posted RB highs in the vertical (41”) and broad jump (10’4) as well as good times in every timed test.

Out of the rest of the backs there really weren’t any standouts. Oklahoma State’s Keith Toston is a guy I like on film a lot and had a real good week at the Shrine game; however, he looked slow and slightly out of shape at only 213. Among other mid-late round options that failed to really make a great impression were Oregon’s LeGarrette Blount, Miami’s Javarris James, and USC’s Stafon Johnson. Two small school guys, Wayne State’s Joique Bell and North Dakota State’s Pat Paschall, couldn’t crack the 4.65 barrier in the 40 but turned in good overall workouts & each posted a good performance in the quickness & explosion tests. Fresno State’s Lonyae Miller is the last guy that I would say helped his cause at the Combine after he led the backs in bench reps (26) at 5’11 ¼ 221 with 4.53 speed and a solid performance in position drills & explosiveness tests. Paschall & Miller are likely late-undrafted options while Bell may garner a bit more attention after a good week in Mobile earlier.

1. C.J. Spiller – Clemson – Top 20
2. Jahvid Best – California – Late 1st-Early 2nd*
3. Ryan Matthews – Fresno State – Late 1st-Late 2nd*
4. Anthony Dixon – Mississippi State – Late 2nd-Early 4th
5. Ben Tate – Auburn – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
6. Toby Gerhart – Stanford – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd
7. Jonathan Dwyer – Georgia Tech – Early 3rd-Early 4th*
8. Dexter McCluster – Mississippi – Early 3rd-Early 4th (WR)
9. Montario Hardesty – Tennessee – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
10. James Starks – Buffalo – Early 4th-Early 5th
11. Joe McKnight – USC – Mid 4th-Early 5th*
12. Keith Toston – Oklahoma State – 5th Round
13. LeGarrette Blount – Oregon – Late 4th-Early 6th
14. Javarris James – Miami – Mid 5th-6th Round
15. Joique Bell – Wayne State – Late 5th-6th Round
16. Stafon Johnson – USC - 6th-7th Round
17. Lonyae Miller – Fresno State – 7th Round-UDFA
18. Pat Paschall – North Dakota State – 7th Round-UDFA
19. Charles Scott – LSU – 7th Round-UDFA
20. Curtis Steele – Memphis - UDFA

Fullbacks
As expected there wasn’t a lot of noise from the Fullbacks at the Combine as only three received invitations. Virginia’s Rashawn Jackson didn’t participate in the bench but proved to be a fairly explosive athlete at 6’1 239 (9’7 broad) & turned in a fine workout after a pretty good week earlier at the Senior Bowl. In a weak class, Jackson is the best option for an all-purpose starting FB; however, it’s not likely he’s taken before the 5th Round. Another back in attendance in Mobile was Kentucky’s John Conner who is more of the bruising run-blocking type. He had a good showing here as well testing surprisingly well and he should be a lock to be drafted in the late rounds to a FB needy power-running team. The final fullback present in Indy was BYU’s Manese Tonga. Though he didn’t necessarily stand out in his workouts, Tonga had a good college career, comes from a good FB pedigree in BYU, and should tempt a team in the late rounds (likely the 7th). We didn’t get to see Rutgers’ Jack Corcoran or Utah’s Matt Asiata work out but each have a chance to get drafted because of the weakness at the position & lack of depth.

1. Rashawn Jackson – Virginia – Mid 5th-Early 6th
2. John Conner – Kentucky – Late 5th-Late 6th
3. Manese Tonga – BYU – 6th-7th Round
4. Jack Corcoran – Rutgers – 7th Round-UDFA
5. Matt Asiata – Utah – UDFA (RB)

Wide Receivers
The receivers were one of the least impressive groups in Indianapolis, though there is a star talent that has yet to workout in Oklahoma State’s Dez Bryant. He weighed in at the Combine 6’2 225 and didn’t participate due to a hamstring injury. Some maturity issues have been raised recently, but Bryant is still a Top 10 pick and a Top 5 value. Notre Dame’s Golden Tate surprised many by running a 4.42 but didn’t have an impressive build at 5’10 ¼ 199. The only other receiver likely to garner some attention in the opening round is Illinois” Arrelious Benn. He didn’t make the most of his Combine by running in the early-mid 4.5 range and didn’t stand out in drills. A few players that are expected to be drafted in the Early-Mid 2nd Round range, USC’s Damien Williams, Cincinnati’s Mardy Gilyard, and LSU’s Brandon LaFell, failed to improve their stock although they likely didn’t hurt it much either. LaFell, after rejecting the Senior Bowl weighed in with small 8 ¾” hands which is a big reason his hands are seen as somewhat inconsistent.

The Citadel’s Andre Roberts and Clemson’s Jacoby Ford both ranked among the standouts in the WR group & carried momentum heading into the event after good performances in Mobile. Roberts looked crisp & athletic at 5’10 7/8 195 and impressed showing good speed (4.46), explosiveness, and quickness in tests/drills. Ford, on the other hand, was the Combine’s fastest player clocked at 4.28. Both players will likely receive a lot of interest in the 3rd Round come April. A couple players I had higher expectations for coming into the weekend were Texas’ Jordan Shipley and Florida’s Riley Cooper. In particular, I though Cooper would run faster than a low 4.5 and likewise I didn’t think Shipley would be in the 4.6 area. Each will have to impress at their Pro Days to cement Third Round grades; I would expect Cooper will be down from 222 (in Indy) to around 215 by that time. Kansas’ Dezmon Briscoe is a guy that really may have hurt himself putting up only 9 reps in the bench press and running a low-mid 4.6 40. I wouldn’t be shocked to see the productive underclassman Jayhawk fall to the draft’s later rounds.

One player that has helped his cause since the end of the season is Michigan State’s Blair White who at 6’2 ¼ 207 timed right around 4.5 and really excelled in the quickness & change of direction drills. Pittsburgh’s Dorin Dickerson was a college Tight End but at only 6’1 3/8 226 running a 4.40 and showing off an explosive 43.5” vertical & 10’4 broad jump. On the field, however his athleticism doesn’t translate and he has struggles with route-running & changing direction. Syracuse’s Mike Williams disappointed with mid 4.6 speed and had terrible interviews, refusing to take responsibility for his checkered past. Louisville’s Scott Long had perhaps the best workout of any receiver and you can bet film will be re-visited though he wasn’t very productive in college. Joining Bryant in not working out due to injury were Georgia Tech’s Demaryius Thomas, Minnesota’s Eric Decker, and Missouri’s Danario Alexander. A couple MAC guys that I like, Bowling Green’s Freddie Barnes and Buffalo’s Naaman Roosevelt weren’t invited. The feeling that most evaluators are getting from this class is that it’s not a very strong one but offers one potential star talent.

1. Dez Bryant – Oklahoma State – Top 10 pick*
2. Golden Tate – Notre Dame – Late 1st-Early 2nd*
3. Arrelious Benn – Illinois – Late 1st-Early 2nd*
4. Damian Williams – USC – Early-Mid 2nd*
5. Mardy Gilyard – Cincinnati – Second Round
6. Brandon LaFell – LSU – Early-Mid 2nd
7. Demaryius Thomas – Georgia Tech – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd*
8. Eric Decker – Minnesota – Early 3rd-Early 4th
9. Andre Roberts – The Citadel – Third Round
10. Jacoby Ford – Clemson – Late 2nd-Late 3rd
11. Jordan Shipley – Texas – Early 3rd-Early 4th
12. Jeremy Williams – Tulane – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
13. Riley Cooper – Florida – Late 3rd-Late 4th
14. Carlton Mitchell – South Florida – Late 3rd-Early 5th*
15. Dezmon Briscoe – Kansas – Late 4th-7th Round*
16. Blair White – Michigan State – Late 4th-Mid 5th
17. Danario Alexander – Missouri – Mid 5th-7th Round
18. Dorin Dickerson – Pittsburgh – Early 5th-Mid 6th (TE/H-B)
19. Freddie Barnes – Bowling Green – Late 5th-7th Round
20. Mike Williams – Syracuse – 6th Round-UDFA
21. Antonio Brown – Central Michigan – 6th-7th Round*
22. Naaman Roosevelt – Buffalo – 6th Round-UDFA
23. Joe Webb – UAB – Mid 5th-7th Round
24. Taylor Price – Ohio – Early 5th-6th Round
25. Scott Long – Louisville – Late 5th-7th Round

Tight Ends
The Tight End position was a fairly boring group in Indianapolis with my #2 and 3 ranked players (Gronkowski, Hernandez) choosing not to run the 40 or go through drills. The consensus top prospect, Oklahoma’s Jermaine Gresham, did a full workout and looked as most expected. He’s not a burner, but he’s a big down-field target with long arms, excellent hands, body control, and should be destined for a spot in the first round. USC’s Anthony McCoy was a disappointment in Indy where he had a chance to cement his name in the Second Round. At the Combine he showed suspect hands & concentration and he failed to run a good 40 time which could stunt the momentum he gained in Mobile. Another Pac-10 guy, Oregon’s Ed Dickson, continues to impress this post-season. Dickson looked good physically at 6’4 ¼ 249 was smooth & quick in position drills and his 4.67 40-Yard Dash helps his cause as a receiving TE prospect.

Jimmy Graham for Miami (Fl.) on the other hand impressed as expected with the best combination of size and athleticism in the Tight End group. At 6’6 ¼ 260 with long 35” arms and big hands Graham was able to run a 4.56, post a 38.5” vert, and stand out in most of the quickness and explosion tests/drills. There were a couple guys at the Combine, BYU’s Dennis Pitta and Missouri State’s Clay Harbor, that will make teams very happy in the mid-rounds, early on Day Three. A very productive college player, Pitta impressed with his speed (4.63), strength (27 Reps), and posted the top times among Tight Ends in the short shuttle (4.17), the 3-Cone (6.72), and the long shuttle; however, due to his age and lack of experience and ability as a blocker. Harbor may get looks at Half-Back but is muscularly built and turned in a great overall workout standing out in position drills. He ran a good 40 time at 4.69, turned in a 40” Vert, a 10”0 broad jump and was one of the big winners of the group. Unfortunately we didn’t get too much more out of the Tight End group as Michael Hoomanawanui (Illinois) and Colin Peek (Alabama) joined Gronkowki & Hernandez in sitting out the workouts while a guy I like Eastern Washington’s Nathan Overbay wasn’t invited.

1. Jermaine Gresham – Oklahoma – Top 25 pick
2. Rob Gronkowski – Arizona – Early-Mid 2nd*
3. Aaron Hernandez – Florida – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd (H-B)
4. Anthony McCoy – USC – Third Round
5. Ed Dickson – Oregon – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
6. Jimmy Graham – Miami (Fl.) – Early 3rd-Early 4th
7. Garrett Graham – Wisconsin – Mid 4th-Early 5th (H-B)
8. Michael Hoomanawanui – Illinois – Late 4th-Mid 5th
9. Colin Peek – Alabama – Early 4th-Mid 5th
10. Dennis Pitta – BYU – Mid 4th-Late 5th
11. Clay Harbor – Missouri State – Early 5th-Early 6th (H-B)
12. Andrew Quarless – Penn State – Early 5th-Early 6th
13. Nathan Overbay – Eastern Washington – Mid 5th-7th Round
14. Tony Moeaki – Iowa – 6th-7th Round (H-B)
15. Nate Byham – Pittsburgh – 7th Round-UDFA

Offensive Tackles
Heading into the weekend the thinking was that anything could happen in Indy and there were definitely a select feviw that were supposed to stand out. He didn’t do a full workout but Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung really looked impressive at 6’5 ¼ 307 with extremely long 36” arms and showed tremendous power with 38 reps of 225, most among Offensive Tackle. Despite showing immaturity during interviews and posting disappointing numbers in the 40 yard dash and bench press (21 reps) Rutgers’ Anthony Davis should still have enough on film to be a Top 10 pick. A guy that may have revived his stock is Oklahoma’s Trent Williams who impressed everyone running a 4.88 40-Yard Dash and showed explosiveness with a 34.5” vert and 9’5 broad jump, incredible for a 315 pound Offensive Lineman. Most evaluators see Williams as a right tackle, but with 34 ½” arms and a good workout in Indy he could have intrigued OL coaches and put his name back in contention for a Top 15-20 pick. There was some hype coming out of Iowa that Bryan Bulaga may run in the 4.9-5.0 range, though there was no evidence to support that in Indy. Due to a heavy demand for his position, Bulaga may have a shot at the Top 10, though on film he looks a bit inconsistent in his technique.

Maryland’s Bruce Campbell was this year’s workout warrior at OT standing 6’6 3/8 with extremely long 36 ¼” arms, power (32 reps), and athleticism running an incredible 4.85 40. It’s unknown how high he may go as on film he’s never looked like a first round pick, but it’s thought the premium on his position could push Campbell as high as the Top 15, many feel that he could slip on draft day though further than the media expects. Charles Brown from USC didn’t workout but impressed me at 6’5 3/8 303 with 35 ¼” arms; his potential at Left Tackle could get him looks early on in the 2nd, though on film he looks more like a 3rd Rounder who needs work on his aggressiveness. Two small school Tackles really stood out in Indy, Abilene Christian’s Tony Washington and Hillsdale’s Jared Veldheer, they both have a shot to go as high as the 3rd and you better believe OL coaches are working hard looking for film on these guys. Marshall Newhouse from TCU looks like he could play Guard or Right Tackle and may be a good mid-round option as an athletic, thick lineman.

Well-respected & decorated seniors such as Iowa’s Kyle Calloway, WVU’s Selvish Capers, and LSU’s Ciron Black failed to do anything to stand out at the Combine and all could be late round picks that lack key NFL attributes: Calloway (feet/athleticism), Black (explosiveness/feet), and Capers (strength/temperament). I was disappointed that Rutgers’ Kevin Haslam and Stanford’s Chris Marinelli weren’t invited as they are both solid players on film & look like they have potential as late round options for a team in need of some versatile OL depth. Miami’s Jason Fox joined USC’s Brown in not working out and I’m not sure what he’ll be capable of doing at his Pro Day due to knee surgery near the end of the 2009 season. This class has some top prospects, some raw talent & upside, and is deep with good college players.

1. Russell Okung – Oklahoma State – Top 10 pick
2. Anthony Davis – Rutgers – Top 10 pick*
3. Trent Williams – Oklahoma – Top 25 pick (OG)
4. Bryan Bulaga – Iowa – Top 20 pick*
5. Bruce Campbell – Maryland – Top 10-Early 2nd*
6. Charles Brown – USC – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
7. Tony Washington – Abilene Christian – Mid 3rd-Early 5th
8. Jared Veldheer – Hillsdale – Mid 3rd-Late 4th
9. Jason Fox – Miami (Fl.) – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
10. Marshall Newhouse – TCU – Mid 4th-Mid 5th (OG)
11. Selvish Capers – West Virginia – Late 4th-Early 6th
12. Kyle Calloway – Iowa – Mid 5th-6th Round (OG)
13. Kevin Haslam – Rutgers – 6th-7th Round
14. Ciron Black – LSU – 6th Round-UDFA (OG)
15. Chris Marinelli – Stanford – 7th Round-UDFA
16. Thomas Welch – Vanderbilt – 7th Round-UDFA
17. Ed Wang – Virginia Tech – 7th Round-UDFA
18. Adam Ulatoski – Texas – UDFA
19. Kurtis Gregory – Missouri – UDFA (OG)
20. Sam Young – Notre Dame – UDFA

Offensive Guards
There was little done at the NFL Combine to change to complexion of this years draft class. Idaho’s Mike Iupati is still the top dog possessing dominating game film, he’s enormous, he’s powerful, and he brings exactly the type of mean streak you want from a guy in the trenches. A player moving up the boards quietly is Indiana’s Roger Saffold who played Tackle in college and established himself as a very powerful, athletic, versatile player in East-West Shrine practices. Saffold came to the Combine at 316 and showed top explosiveness (9’5 Broad Jump) and ability to change direction on the move (7.42 3-Cone.) A guy that got hyped early on in the process, Vladimir Ducasse from Massachusetts showed a long, massive body and impressed with his bench total (29) though his technique is raw and he’ll need to play Guard in the NFL. Mississippi’s John Jerry is yet another converted Tackle that made himself some money. After dropping 20 pounds in the last year, Jerry appeared explosive, athletic, and powerful at the Combine and has a shot to come off the board in the Second Round.

Alabama’s Mike Johnson, perhaps the nation’s top lineman a year ago, weighed in at a sturdy 312 but didn’t do a full workout and lacks arm length and foot quickness. Arizona State’s Shawn Lauvao and Tennessee’s Chris Scott are two mid-round options that offer value at Offensive Tackle (their college position.) Lauvao was able to impress, putting up the bar 33 times, and recorded the top short shuttle time for a lineman at 4.51. Scott failed to stand out, only put up 19 reps at 319 pounds and ran over a 5.4, a definite disappointment for a guy who looked like a worthy project at the Senior Bowl and Shrine Game. Arkansas’ Mitch Petrus shocked the Combine by putting up 45 Reps, a spectacular number. Colorado State’s Shelley Smith (5.11) and James Madison’s Dorian Brooks (5.16) were two of the more impressive athletes at Guard and each looked good in positional drills. Texas Tech’s Brandon Carter was a huge disappointment on the bench (21) and may lack the feet to play OG or RT in the NFL. Illinois” Jon Asamoah was unable to workout in Indianapolis.

1. Mike Iupati – Idaho – Top 32 pick
2. Roger Saffold – Indiana – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd (OT)
3. Vladimir Ducasse – Massachusetts – Late 2nd-Early 3rd (OT)
4. John Jerry – Mississippi – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
5. Mike Johnson – Alabama – Late 3rd-Mid 4th
6. Jon Asamoah – Illinois – Late 3rd-Late 4th
7. Shawn Lauvao – Arizona State – Late 4th-Mid 5th
8. Chris Scott – Tennessee – Late 4th-Early 6th (OT)
9. Mitch Petrus – Arkansas – Early 5th-Early 6th
10. Shelley Smith – Colorado State – Late 5th-6th Round
11. Zane Beadles – Utah – Late 5th-7th Round (OT)
12. Dorian Brooks – James Madison – 6th-7th Round
13. Chris DeGeare – Wake Forest – 6th Round-UDFA
14. Sergio Render – Virginia Tech – 7th Round-UDFA
15. Brandon Carter – Texas Tech – UDFA (OT)

Centers
Obviously there was not a ton of attention and buzz surrounding the Centers in this class and it’s apparent that this draft is much weaker at the top and far more thin than the 2009 class. The best of the bunch, Florida’s Maurkice Pouncey, failed to stand out during his workout and didn’t impress as much athletically as I thought he might. He’ll do a more complete workout in Gainesville and should wind up in the Second Round based on his impressive film and versatility as an interior lineman. A well-decorated player in the ACC, Boston College’s Matt Tennant had a good workout showing the best quickness in a phone booth & speed though he’s not likely to be picked until the 4th Round. The next best at the position is Baylor’s J.D. Walton who has a good powerful build at 6-2 5/8 300, he put up 34 Reps of 225, and he showed some explosiveness with an 8’5 Broad Jump. Overall it was a good workout for Walton who will likely be drafted second or third among Centers. Notre Dame’s Eric Olsen followed up a good Senior Bowl with an impressive showing this week with good size (6’3 7/8 306) and plenty of power (35 reps). Jeff Byers of USC is a bit older than your average Senior, but has enough experience, versatility, and strength (33 reps) to warrant interest in the late rounds.

1. Maurkice Pouncey – Florida – Second Round* (OG)
2. Matt Tennant – Boston College – Late 3rd-Late 4th
3. J.D. Walton – Baylor – Early 4th-Early 5th
4. Eric Olsen – Notre Dame – Early 5th-Mid 6th (OG)
5. Jeff Byers – USC – 6th Round-UDFA (OG)


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Defensive Ends
It was an interesting week for some of the names at the top of my DE rankings. Though more likely to fall in the 17-22 range, Michigan’s Brandon Graham is my top rated player at the position. After turning in a great week in Mobile, Graham established himself with power (30 reps), speed (4.72 40) and he did it all at an increased weight at 268; 3-4 Teams will look at him as a linebacker though I think he’ll find success in the NFL no matter what position. South Florida’s Jason Pierre-Paul may not have measured/tested as the freak many expected, but he still raised his stock in Indy showing off his height/length, some explosiveness, and good physique. His body could hold up to fifteen more pounds comfortably and teams will likely consider JPP as high as the Top 10 (Oakland, Jacksonville). I was not impressed with Georgia Tech’s Derrick Morgan who has an unspectacular build and looks as if he could add big time muscle mass. Originally thought of as a Top 15 pick, Morgan may have to wait until the Mid-Late First to hear his name called. USC’s Everson Griffen turned out to be the workout warrior of the group, posting 32 reps on the bench and a 4.66 40-yard dash at 273 pounds. Griffen has a lot of room to grow as a player and will get attention form 3-4 and 4-3 teams; expect to see him off the board in the Mid-Late First Round.

We have another case of polar opposites in super-productive, undersized (6’1 ¾ 255) Jerry Hughes from TCU and enormous (6’5 ¾ 277) underachiever Carlos Dunlap from Florida. To everyone’s surprise it was Hughes that really showed up at the Combine, impressing with a 4.69 40 and an impressive first step (1.53 10 yd split). With 33” arms and good quickness/acceleration it’s thought the TCU tweener could have officially put his name in the First Round conversation. Dunlap’s a guy that I wouldn’t take in the First, a guy who never put it all together on the field, and a guy who really didn’t help his cause with interviews where he failed to show a passion or IQ for the game. Physically he has a lot of mass in his torso & thighs and was fairly explosive in tests & drills, but he has very thin arms and will have a huge adjustment to the league mentally. The middle-of-the-pack ends such as Arkansas State’s Alex Carrington and Mississippi’s Greg Hardy worked out yet failed to really impress. Hardy, in particular, struggled with a poor showing on the bench (21 reps) then a slow 40 time (4.9e); he’s shown nothing to revive his stock (which was in the 1st at a time) and he appears destined to be an early pick on Day Three.

I’m glad Washington’s Daniel Te’o Nesheim continues to build his stock and show NFL teams he’s more than just a productive college player. He turned in a good week at the Shrine game and here Nesheim weighed in at 6’3 ½ 264 (33 ¾” arms) and managed to turn in a great total on the bench (29), the 40, and in most quickness/explosiveness tests. Another player that flashed physical ability wasn’t quite as productive in college and that’s South Carolina’s Clifton Geathers. He had that ‘wow’ factor in weigh-ins at 6’7 ½ 299 with unbelievable 37 ¾” arms; expect him to draw attention in the late rounds as a potential 5-Tech prospect for 3-4 teams. Unfortuntately the Combine came and went without full workouts from Northwestern’s Corey Wootton, Florida’s Jermaine Cunningham, and Alabama’s Brandon Deadrick among others.

1. Brandon Graham – Michigan – Top 25 pick (OLB)
2. Jason Pierre-Paul – South Florida – Top 10 pick*
3. Derrick Morgan – Georgia Tech – Top 20 pick*
4. Everson Griffen – USC – Top 25 pick* (OLB)
5. Jerry Hughes – TCU – Late 1st-Mid 2nd (OLB)
6. Carlos Dunlap – Florida – Late 1st-Mid 2nd*
7. Alex Carrington – Arkansas State – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd (3-4 DE)
8. Corey Wootton – Northwestern – Late 2nd-Late 3rd (3-4 DE)
9. Greg Hardy – Mississippi – Mid 3rd-Early 5th
10. Jermaine Cunningham – Florida – Late 3rd-Late 4th
11. Brandon Deadrick – Alabama – Mid 4th-Mid 5th (DT/3-4 DE)
12. Daniel Te’o Nesheim – Washington – Late 4th-Mid 6th
13. Austen Lane – Murray State – Late 4th-Mid 5th
14. Lindsey Witten – Connecticut – Mid 5th-Early 7th
15. George Selvie – South Florida – Mid 5th-7th Round (OLB)
16. Clifton Geathers – South Carolina – 6th-7th Round* (3-4 DE)
17. Jeff Fitzgerald – Kansas State – 6th-7th Round
18. Hall Davis – Louisiana Lafayette – 6th-7th Round
19. C.J. Wilson – East Carolina – 6th Round-UDFA (3-4 DE)
20. Willie Young – North Carolina State – 6th Round-UDFA

Defensive Tackles
Let me preface by saying I haven’t seen quite a battle at the top of my board like this and of course it’s never been at the same position that I’m debating between two prospects. I have Oklahoma’s Gerald McCoy ahead of Ndamukong Suh on this, my latest board, not because of anything either player did (or didn’t do) in Indianapolis. During the weekend I saw a lot of both players, but even after Suh turned in the slightly better workout I started to get the feeling that McCoy was the more coveted player among NFL teams. It makes sense to me, as the former Sooner brings a clean injury history, experience in a variety of roles & positions, greater quickness upfield, and is extremely personable with a very likeable personality. Suh, on the other hand, is a bit more soft spoken and isn’t likely to be a havoc-wreaking pass-rusher, nor is he likely to hold the role of a two gap run stuffer. His personality is likeable & on the field you have to love his temperament, but he’s a man of few words and isn’t going to wow you in interviews. In Indy he showed a massive body with huge broad shoulders, thick thighs, and showed everything physically that he needed to. I just think McCoy’s explosiveness & potential as a penetrating 4-3 UT fits more along the NFL trends of increased passing and I think his personality is going to help him build relationships with those top teams. Ultimately this one comes down to what you need on your team, it’s truly a 1A & 1B situation and both players are locked into Top 3 spots.

Aside from the main events, there were a number of other quality Tackles in attendance including UCLA’s Brian Price who might have the potential to be a Top 15-20 pick. Price had one of the thickest upper bodies in attendance, flashed his power (34 reps), and also showed impressive feet & some athleticism. Tennessee’s Dan Williams may not have anything to raise his stock but he came in stout at 6’2 327, he moved well, and he did nothing that would cause you to believe a team won’t take him in the first round (most likely to play Nose Tackle in a 3-4). Well it was nice to see Alabama’s Terrance “Mount” Cody down sixteen pounds from the Senior Bowl to 354. Cody likely raised his stock after coming to the Senior Bowl noticeably over-weight, he has stated that he’d like to lose eight more pounds and play at that weight; the sky is the limit if a team gets interested in Cody as I could see him anywhere from the 11-28 range at this moment. The guy that may have helped himself most is Texas’ Lamarr Houston who just seems to be doing everything right from a strong senior season, to a strong championship game, then to a great week in Mobile. Houston looked fit and muscular at 6’2 ¾ 305 and flashed 4.8-4.9 speed, good agility in drills, and put up 30 reps on the bench press. Jared Odrick from Penn State is likely to attract a lot of attention from 3-4 teams looking for a 5-Tech. After a good Senior Bowl, Odrick turned in a good workout but didn’t particularly stand out; I could see him falling to the Second Round as of right now though I think he’ll garner interest from teams like New England and New York in the first.

Georgia’s Geno Atkins impressed with a muscular physique at 293, good explosiveness, and great power (34 reps). Don’t be surprised if you start hearing about Central Florida’s Torrell Troup in coming months as he’ll be a guy that could start to surge up boards after a good week at the Shrine game and an impressive Combine that included 34 bench reps at 6’2 ¾ 314 with 34” arms. Linval Joseph from East Carolina is another C-USA guy that had a great week in Indy putting up 39 reps at an enormous 6’4 ½ 328 with 34 ½” arms; Nose Tackle will be a possibility as Joseph will start moving up into the Day Two discussion. Another DT that impressed was Atkins’ teammate Jeff Owens who put up a group-leading 44 reps in the bench press. Al Woods from LSU had vines for arms (36”) and enormous hands (11”) to go along with the top vertical for DTs at 37”. Syracuse’s Arthur Jones and Louisiana Tech’s D’Anthony Smith were among those that didn’t work out due to injury.

1. Gerald McCoy – Oklahoma – Top 3 pick*
2. Ndamukong Suh – Nebraska – Top 3 pick
3. Brian Price – UCLA – Top 25 pick*
4. Dan Williams – Tennessee – Top 25 pick (NT)
5. Terrance Cody – Alabama – Mid 1st-Early 2nd (NT)
6. Lamarr Houston – Texas – Second Round
7. Jared Odrick – Penn State – Second Round (3-4 DE)
8. Geno Atkins – Georgia – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd
9. Arthur Jones – Syracuse – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd (3-4 DE)
10. Cam Thomas – North Carolina – Late 2nd-Late 3rd (NT)
11. Torrell Troup – Central Florida – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th
12. Linval Joseph – East Carolina – Mid 3rd-Mid 4th* (NT)
13. Tyson Alualu – California – Early 4th-Early 5th (DE)
14. Jeff Owens – Georgia – Mid 4th-Late 5th (NT)
15. D’Anthony Smith – Louisiana Tech – Early 4th-Mid 5th
16. Al Woods – LSU – 6th-7th Round (3-4 DE)
17. Mike Neal – Purdue – Mid 5th-7th Round
18. Earl Mitchell – Arizona – 6th Round-UDFA (NT)
19. Aleric Mullins – North Carolina – 7th Round-UDFA (NT)
20. Doug Worthington – Ohio State – 7th Round-UDFA (3-4 DE)

Outside Linebackers
Luckily we got to see a lot Outside Linebackers as the position got full participation from the top eleven on my board here. A guy that really impressed me was Sean Weatherspoon from Missouri. I’ve been a fan of Spoon’s but I didn’t expect that he was going to turn in such a strong workout at 6’1 ¼ 239; in addition to showing good hips and lateral ability, he showed power (34 reps), speed (4.68), and explosiveness (40” vert). We may have to wait until Texas’ Pro Day to see Sergio Kindle live up to his workout hype, but the 6’2 7/8 250 pound backer showed good feet and tremendous upper body power. A lot of people came away very impressed by Penn State’s Navorro Bowman in Indy as he showed good hips, nimble feet, and looked agile at 242, ten pounds more than I had anticipated. Clemson’s Ricky Sapp profiles as a 3-4 Outside Linebacker but must add bulk to his frame to play at the NFL level. Though Sapp proved to be fluid and agile, he didn’t show the explosiveness that would have warranted 1st Round consideration.

South Carolina’s Eric Norwood looks good on film, weighed in at a bulky 6’0 7/8 245, and looked more smooth and athletic than most imagined. I’m not sure how high Florida State’s Dekoda Watson could go after the workout he had, one that included a 4.56 40, a 40” vertical, and ran his short shuttle in 4.11. At 6’1 3/8 240 Watson’s not the biggest guy, but he weighed in bigger than I thought he would and has a very high draft ceiling. A pair of underclassmen converted Defensive Ends Ohio State’s Thaddeus Gibson and Virginia Tech’s Jason Worilds were among the standouts. Gibson showed plenty of athleticism in drills & testing and he wowed scouts with 32 Bench Reps. Worilds, the thicker of the two, timed at 4.72 and proved to be an explosive athlete that will get mostly looks at Outside LB in 3-4 schemes. James Madison’s Arthur Moats is a converted end moving up my board as an explosive (4.66) athlete with a good pass rushing pedigree in FCS ball. Moats only measures 6’0 ¼ 246 but has 33 3/4 “ arms, speed off the edge, and should start to get consideration in the Mid-Rounds.

After injuring his ACL at the Senior Bowl, Wisconsin’s O’Brien Schofield skipped the bench press and 40 yard dash but he did do some position drills. Schofield weighed in at only 221 pounds, 21 less than the East-West Shrine game just a month ago. Georgia’s Rennie Curran was rumored in the 4.5-4.6 range but could only manage a low 4.7 and at only 5’10 5/8 that’d going to push him down a bit to the Mid Rounds. Clemson’s Kavell Conner and Oregon State’s Keaton Kristick both had good showings’ in Indy, displaying good athleticism and speed (4.63 for Conner.) Oklahoma’s Keenan Clayton really looked athletic running a 4.66 and offering the Linebackers’ top vertical jump at 41.5”. UCLA’s Kyle Bosworth has a shot at getting drafted and looked very quick & fluid with good feet and hips. Tennessee’s Rico McCoy was not invited to the NFL Combine surprisingly, so we’ll see what he’s got on his Pro Day.

1. Sean Weatherspoon – Missouri – Top 20 pick (ILB)
2. Sergio Kindle – Texas – Top 25 pick*
3. Navorro Bowman – Penn State – Early 2nd-Early 3rd*
4. Ricky Sapp – Clemson – Second Round
5. Koa Misi – Utah – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd
6. Eric Norwood – South Carolina – Early 3rd-Mid 4th
7. Dekoda Watson – Florida State – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
8. Thaddeus Gibson – Ohio State – Late 2nd-Late 3rd*
9. Jason Worilds – Virginia Tech – Mid 3rd-Early 4th*
10. A.J. Edds – Iowa – Late 3rd-Late 4th
11. Arthur Moats – James Madison – Late 4th-Early 6th
12. O’Brien Schofield – Wisconsin – Mid 4th-Late 5th
13. Rennie Curran – Georgia – Mid 4th-Late 5th
14. Kavell Conner – Clemson – Early 5th-6th Round
15. Keaton Kristick – Oregon State – 6th-7th Round
16. Justin Cole – San Jose State – 6th-7th Round
17. Keenan Clayton – Oklahoma – 6th-7th Round
18. Rico McCoy – Tennessee – 6th Round-UDFA
19. Cameron Sheffield – Troy – 7th Round-UDFA
20. Kyle Bosworth – UCLA – 7th Round-UDFA

Inside Linebackers
The 2010 NFL Combine wasn’t particularly exciting for the Inside Linebackers as Alabama’s Rolando McClain chose not to participate, Brandon Spikes didn’t run the 40-Yard Dash, and we didn’t get to see a full workout from Donald Butler. At his pro day McClain will have to run well and show good hips to be drafted in the Top 12 in April, but still looks destined to be drafted in the first 18 picks. We did get to see TCU’s Daryl Washington do a full workout which had its ups and downs. Washington is very lean, with a thin lower body and little muscle mass in his arms but he has quick feet, very fluid hips, good speed, and great ball skills for a Linebacker. Though he didn’t do a full workout, Florida’s Brandon Spikes participated in the position drills. He has a very thick, filled out frame and shows the ability to play the ball in the air but it’s obvious he’s not quite as fast, nimble, or explosive as a typical top Linebacker prospect. Washington’s Donald Butler also didn’t do a full workout but wowed evaluators with a thick, muscular body at 6’1 245 and showed power & endurance putting up 35 reps of 225.

Linebacker “U” has yet another versatile, blue-collar prospect this year in Sean Lee. Overall Lee had a very good workout showing surprising agility and explosiveness; his stock will also get a boost due to the fact that he could bring value on the Weakside, Inside, and Special Teams. Mississippi State’s Jamar Chaney had one of the most impressive workouts for Inside Backers. Chaney has a compact, strong buikd at 6’0 ¾ 242 with long arms, great speed (4.54), explosiveness (39” vert), and power with 26 reps at 225. Pat Angerer from Iowa disappointed me a bit with his low 4.7 as I expected the undersized (6’0 ¼ 235), productive backer closer to a mid-late 4.5 time. Though Boston College’s Mike McLaughlin lacks height (6’0 ¼) and timed speed he had some impressive numbers in Indy putting up 29 reps, a 38.5” vertical, a 4.11 short shuttle, and the best 3-Cone time among LBs at 6.85. Though his film is pretty good, Miami’s Daryl Sharpton was unable to stand out at the Combine and his stock will likely drop after measuring in at 5’11 3/8 with a 4.8 40.

1. Rolando McClain – Alabama – Top 20 pick*
2. Daryl Washington – TCU – Second Round (OLB)
3. Brandon Spikes – Florida – Early 2nd-Early 3rd
4. Donald Butler – Washington – Early 3rd-Early 4th
5. Sean Lee – Penn State – Mid 3rd-Early 4th (OLB)
6. Roddrick Muckelroy – Texas – Late 4th-Mid 5th (OLB)
7. Jamar Chaney – Mississippi State – Late 4th-Late 5th
8. Pat Angerer – Iowa – Early 5th-7th Round
9. Mike McLaughlin – Boston College – 6th-7th Round
10. Daryl Sharpton – Miami (Fl.) – 6th Round-UDFA (OLB)

Cornerbacks
Some would agree that the Combine workouts, especially the positional drills, are particularly important for Defensive Backs. This year was no different and at many times it was easy to identify the cream of the crop. Florida’s Joe Haden entered Indianapolis a Top 10 prospect, though after posting a 4.57 (unofficial 40) it looks like he is more destined to between 11-15. Ultimately Haden’s 40 time isn’t too big a deal as he had a good workout showed great feet, burst, and change of direction skills (hips). Kyle Wilson from Boise State didn’t workout but looked the part measuring in at 5’11 194 and turning in 25 reps of 225, he may be cementing himself as the #2 Corner. Turning in some of the best workouts were Devin McCourty of Rutgers and Kareem Jackson of Alabama. McCourty showed to be particularly athletic and flew through almost every drill displaying his hips, great fluidity, speed, and surprising ball skills; he should prove to be one of the big winners at Cornerback and could be considered in late Round One. Kareem Jackson likely will have his name called in the Second, he isn’t the biggest of guys (only 5’10 ½ with 30” arms), but he had a real solid Combine workout. Jackson kept his feet moving, looked good moving his hips, has a strong build, and did a good job adjusting to & catching balls away from his body.

Though he’s not a burner and he certainly wasn’t perfect in his positional drills Michigan’s Donovan Warren should still draw consideration in the Second. Warren looked a bit high-hipped at times but showed great feet and ball skills, looking very natural breaking on the ball. Oklahoma’s Dominique Franks was one of the group’s most fluid athletes and Patrick Robinson had the best ball skills & looked smooth. One guy building some momentum through the Senior Bowl and Combine is Virginia’s Chris Cook. At 6’2 212 with a 4.46 Official 40 and an incredible 11’0 broad jump it’s looking like Cook’s one of the more physically gifted corners in this class that brings value as a Free Safety. Wake Forest’s Brandon Ghee and Indiana’s (Pa.) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah looked more fluid in drills and both turned in sub 4.5 times of their own in Mobile. UCLA’s Alterraun Verner is a guy I liked in college but even I was impressed by his ability to change direction, the quickness of his backpedal & feet, and looked good playing the ball.

Amari Spievey from Iowa is a guy I really expected more out of and his lackluster performance pushes him down the board. Spievey struggled in positional drills changing direction, played high-hipped, and just doesn’t look to have quite the foot quickness of some others in his group. Clemson’s Crezdon Butler (5’11 ¾ 191) and Fresno State’s A.J. Jefferson (6’0 1/8 193) profile as tall, athletic corners with upside at the next level and both showed fluidity & nimble feet as well as the ability to attack the ball in the air. Two more guys that shined in the Defensive Back positional drills were Purdue’s David Pender and Kansas State’s Josh Moore who each lack bulk but are fluid & very quick. Productive Kentucky corner Trevard Lindley really struggled to show straight-line speed and fluid hips though he’s got good feet and some of the best ball skills in the class. Alabama’s Javier Arenas and Oregon’s Walter Thurmond joined Wilson among those that didn’t work out.

1. Joe Haden – Florida – Top 15 pick*
2. Kyle Wilson – Boise State – Late 1st-Early 2nd
3. Devin McCourty – Rutgers – Late 1st-Early 2nd
4. Perrish Cox – Oklahoma State – Late 1st-Mid 2nd
5. Kareem Jackson – Alabama – Second Round*
6. Donovan Warren – Michigan – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd*
7. Dominique Franks – Oklahoma – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd*
8. Patrick Robinson – Florida State – Mid-Late 2nd
9. Chris Cook – Virginia – Late 2nd-Late 3rd (FS)
10. Brandon Ghee – Wake Forest – Early 3rd-Early 4th
11. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah – Indiana (Pa.) – Early 3rd-Mid 4th
12. Jerome Murphy – South Florida – Fourth Round
13. Alterraun Verner – UCLA – Late 4th-Late 5th
14. Amari Spievey – Iowa – Early 4th-Early 5th*
15. Syd’Quan Thompson – California – Late 4th-Late 5th
16. Javier Arenas – Alabama – Late 4th-Early 6th
17. Crezdon Butler – Clemson – Early 5th-6th Round
18. A.J. Jefferson – Fresno State – Late 4th-6th Round
19. David Pender – Purdue – 5th-7th Round
20. Josh Moore – Kansas State – 6th-7th Round
21. Trevard Lindley – Kentucky – 6th Round-UDFA
22. Walter Thurmond III – Oregon – 7th Round-UDFA
23. Myron Lewis – Vanderbilt – 7th Round-UDFA
24. Chris Chancellor – Clemson – 7th Round-UDFA
25. Kevin Thomas – USC – 7th Round-UDFA

Safeties
As I said with the corners, positional drills at the Combine are particularly telling for Safeties whether they are in-the-box thumpers or rangy free safeties. Tennessee’s Eric Berry weighed in bigger than anyone expected (5’11 5/8 211) and still managed to clock under 4.5 in the 40 and turned in a 43” vertical. In the positional drills Berry continued to look the part, showing the feet, hips, explosiveness, and ball skills of an elite Free Safety or Cornerback prospect. Texas’ Earl Thomas is another CB/FS tweener that came to the Combine bulked up (208) and he looked good in his positional drills showing the hips & feet we all expected, though he surprisingly had occasional trouble catching the ball. Taylor Mays from USC was the talk of the Combine after he turned in an unofficial 4.24 at 6’3 1/8 230. Mays showed legitimate 4.3 speed, explosiveness, and plenty of power though if he wants to play Safety in the NFL he’s going to have to sink his hips when changing direction and refine/quicken his backpedal. There has been some talk of the Top 10 for Mays, and some Late-1st talk, but I expected to see him off the board in the 10-20 range.

Nebraska’s Larry Asante doesn’t bring quite the bulk you’d expect at 6’0 212, but he’s surprising fluid, nimble, and looked great flipping his hips & playing the ball in position drills. Chad Jones out of LSU was one disappointment among the Safeties. Jones looked great adjusting to the ball and catching away from his body but he showed very average feet, hips, and displayed little speed or explosiveness in drills. A solid performance was turned in by Kansas’ Darrell Stuckey who looked great mechanically with a quick backpedal, impressive hips, and looked good playing the ball in the air. Florida’s Major Wright opened some eyes with a 4.48 40 but did nothing further to stand out in drills. Another underclassman, Reshad Jones of Georgia, impressed with a good, strong build, he had 24 reps of 225, and he did a nice job tracking & catching the ball in drills though he doesn’t bring a ton of speed, explosiveness, or natural athleticism. Florida State’s Myron Rolle brings a strong academic pedigree, a force against the run on the field, and good technique however he definitely appeared a bit slow in his backpedal, in a straight-line, and lacks closing/recovery speed for an NFL Safety.

A guy that surprised me a bit with his quickness and bulk was Virginia Tech’s Kam Chancellor. Somewhat of a OLB/SS tweener , Chancellor is capable of staying low and has quick feet but he lacks the range and ball skills of an NFL Safety. Ohio State’s Kurt Coleman is undersized (5’10 ¼ 192) with a small frame and average straight-line speed but he had some of the best positional drills with great feet, terrific explosiveness, and showed the ability to attack & catch the ball. Jonathan Amaya from Nevada really impressed with his speed, explosiveness, and fluidity at 6’0 ¾ 203 and looks like a guy that may have value at Cornerback. I’m not sure where Notre Dame’s Kyle McCarthy will fit in NFL schemes with below average speed, but smooth feet and ball skills. Georgia Tech’s Morgan Burnett, South Florida’s Nate Allen, and USC’s Josh Pinkard are a few that didn’t work out in Indy while Maryland’s Terrell Skinner wasn’t invited.

1. Eric Berry – Tennessee – Top 10 pick* (CB)
2. Earl Thomas – Texas – Top 25 pick*
3. Taylor Mays – USC – Top 20 pick (OLB)
4. Larry Asante – Nebraska – Mid 2nd-Early 3rd
5. Morgan Burnett – Georgia Tech – Late 2nd-Mid 3rd*
6. Chad Jones – LSU – Mid 2nd-Mid 3rd*
7. Darrell Stuckey – Kansas – Mid 3rd-Early 4th
8. Nate Allen – South Florida – Early 3rd-Early 4th
9. Major Wright – Florida – Late 2nd-Early 4th
10. Reshad Jones – Georgia – Early 3rd-Early 4th
11. T.J. Ward – Oregon – Early 5th-6th Round
12. Terrell Skinner – Maryland – Early 5th-6th Round (CB)
13. Myron Rolle – Florida State – 5th-6th Round
14. Kam Chancellor – Virginia Tech – Early 5th-6th Round (OLB)
15. Kurt Coleman – Ohio State – 6th-7th Round
16. Barry Church – Toledo – 6th Round-UDFA
17. Jonathan Amaya – Nevada – 6th Round-UDFA
18. Kyle McCarthy – Notre Dame – 7th Round-UDFA
19. Kendrick Lewis – Mississippi – 7th Round-UDFA
20. Josh Pinkard – USC – 7th Round-UDFA

Specialists
1. Zoltan Mesko – Punter - Michigan
2. Leigh Tiffin – Kicker – Alabama
3. Trindon Holliday – Return Specialist – LSU
4. Aaron Pettrey – Kicker – Ohio State
5. Matt Dodge – Punter – East Carolina


- Top 200 – Post-Combine -

1. Gerald McCoy – DT – Oklahoma*
2. Ndamukong Suh – DT – Nebraska
3. Sam Bradford – QB – Oklahoma*
4. Dez Bryant – WR – Oklahoma State*
5. Eric Berry – S – Tennessee*
6. Russell Okung – OT – Oklahoma State
7. Jimmy Clausen – QB – Notre Dame*
8. Anthony Davis – OT – Rutgers*
9. Brandon Graham – DE/LB – Michigan
10. Joe Haden – CB – Florida*
11. Sean Weatherspoon – OLB – Missouri
12. Jason Pierre-Paul – DE – South Florida*
13. C.J. Spiller – RB – Clemson
14. Jermaine Gresham – TE – Oklahoma
15. Trent Williams – OT – Oklahoma
16. Rolando McClain – ILB – Alabama*
17. Brian Price – DT – UCLA*
18. Earl Thomas – S – Texas*
19. Bryan Bulaga – OT – Iowa*
20. Derrick Morgan – DE – Georgia Tech*
21. Taylor Mays – S – USC
22. Everson Griffen – DE/OLB – USC*
23. Sergio Kindle – OLB – Texas
24. Dan Williams – NT – Tennessee
25. Terrance Cody – NT – Alabama*
26. Golden Tate – WR – Notre Dame*
27. Kyle Wilson – CB – Boise State
28. Arrelious Benn – WR – Illinois*
29. Jahvid Best – RB – California*
30. Mike Iupati – OG – Idaho
31. Jerry Hughes – DE/OLB – TCU
32. Devin McCourty – CB – Rutgers
33. Perrish Cox – CB – Oklahoma State
34. Rob Gronkowski – TE – Arizona*
35. Damian Williams – WR – USC*
36. Lamarr Houston – DT – Texas
37. Maurkice Pouncey – C/OG – Florida*
38. Jared Odrick – DT/DE – Penn State
39. Navorro Bowman – OLB – Penn State*
40. Kareem Jackson – CB – Alabama*
41. Mardy Gilyard – WR – Cincinnati
42. Brandon LaFell – WR – LSU
43. Carlos Dunlap – DE – Florida*
44. Demaryius Thomas – WR – Georgia Tech*
45. Ryan Matthews – RB – Fresno State*
46. Daryl Washington – LB – TCU
47. Ricky Sapp – OLB – Clemson
48. Brandon Spikes – ILB – Florida
49. Donovan Warren – CB – Michigan*
50. Dominique Franks – CB – Oklahoma*

51. Roger Saffold – OG - Indiana
52. Bruce Campbell – OT – Maryland*
53. Larry Asante – S – Nebraska
54. Patrick Robinson – CB – Florida State
55. Aaron Hernandez – TE/H-B – Florida*
56. Charles Brown – OT – USC
57. Koa Misi – OLB – Utah
58. Anthony Dixon – RB – Mississippi State
59. Alex Carrington – DE – Arkansas State
60. Vladimir Ducasse – OG/OT – Massachusetts
61. Geno Atkins – DT – Georgia
62. John Jerry – OG – Mississippi
63. Ben Tate – RB - Auburn
64. Morgan Burnett – S – Georgia Tech*
65. Arthur Jones – DT – Syracuse
66. Chris Cook – CB/S – Virginia
67. Toby Gerhart – RB – Stanford
68. Eric Norwood – OLB – South Carolina
69. Chad Jones – S – LSU*
70. Anthony McCoy – TE - USC
71. Donald Butler – ILB – Washington
72. Colt McCoy – QB - Texas
73. Cam Thomas – NT – North Carolina
74. Darrell Stuckey – S - Kansas
75. Dekoda Watson – OLB – Florida State
76. Brandon Ghee – CB – Wake Forest
77. Thaddeus Gibson – OLB – Ohio State*
78. Jonathan Dwyer – RB – Georgia Tech*
79. Andre Roberts – WR – The Citadel
80. Nate Allen – S – South Florida
81. Ed Dickson – TE – Oregon
82. Torrell Troup – DT – Central Florida
83. Sean Lee – LB – Penn State
84. Jason Worilds – OLB – Virginia Tech*
85. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah – CB – Indiana (Pa.)
86. Tim Tebow – QB – Florida
87. Corey Wootton – DE – Northwestern
88. Dexter McCluster – RB/WR – Mississippi
89. Jimmy Graham – TE – Miami (Fl.)
90. Major Wright – S – Florida*
91. Jacoby Ford – WR - Clemson
92. Reshad Jones – S – Georgia*
93. Montario Hardesty – RB – Tennessee
94. Linval Joseph – DT/NT – East Carolina*
95. Tony Washington – OT – Abilene Christian
96. Jordan Shipley – WR – Texas
97. Mike Johnson – OG - Alabama
98. Jared Veldheer – OT – Hillsdale
99. Jason Fox – OT – Miami (Fl.)
100. Jeremy Williams – WR - Tulane

101. A.J. Edds – OLB – Iowa
102. Greg Hardy – DE – Mississippi
103. Tyson Alualu – DT/DE - California
104. Jon Asamoah – OG – Illinois
105. Riley Cooper – WR – Florida
106. Matt Tennant – C – Boston College
107. Dan LeFevour – QB – Central Michigan
108. Jermaine Cunningham – DE – Florida
109. Garrett Graham – TE/H-B – Wisconsin
110. Carlton Mitchell – WR – South Florida*
111. Jerome Murphy – CB – South Florida
112. Marshall Newhouse – OG/OT – TCU
113. James Starks – RB – Buffalo
114. Jeff Owens – DT/NT - Georgia
115. Jarrett Brown – QB – West Virginia
116. Michael Hoomanawanui – TE – Illinois
117. D’Anthony Smith – DT – Louisiana Tech
118. Colin Peek – TE - Alabama
119. J.D. Walton – C – Baylor
120. Brandon Deadrick – DE/DT - Alabama
121. Alterraun Verner – CB – UCLA
122. Arthur Moats – OLB – James Madison
123. John Skelton – QB – Fordham
124. O’Brien Schofield – OLB – Wisconsin
125. Amari Spievey – CB – Iowa*
126. Daniel Te’o Nesheim – DE – Washington
127. Dennis Pitta – TE - BYU
128. Joe McKnight – RB – USC*
129. Shawn Lauvao – OG – Arizona State
130. Syd’Quan Thompson – CB - California
131. Rennie Curran – OLB – Georgia
132. Keith Toston – RB – Oklahoma State
133. Roddrick Muckelroy – LB - Texas
134. Chris Scott – OG/OT – Tennessee
135. Clay Harbor – TE/H-B – Missouri State
136. Javier Arenas – CB – Alabama
137. Jamar Chaney – ILB – Mississippi State
138. Austen Lane – DE – Murray State
139. Mitch Petrus – OG – Arkansas
140. LeGarrette Blount – RB – Oregon
141. Jevan Snead – QB – Mississippi*
142. Selvish Capers – OT – West Virginia
143. Dezmon Briscoe – WR – Kansas*
144. Andrew Quarless – TE – Penn State
145. T.J. Ward – S – Oregon
146. Eric Olsen – C/OG – Notre Dame
147. Terrell Skinner – S/CB – Maryland
148. Blair White – WR – Michigan State
149. Nathan Overbay – TE – Eastern Washington
150. Lindsey Witten – DE/OLB – Connecticut

151. Javarris James – RB – Miami (Fl.)
152. Kavell Conner – OLB – Clemson
153. Crezdon Butler – CB – Clemson
154. Myron Rolle – S – Florida State
155. A.J. Jefferson – CB – Fresno State
156. Zoltan Mesko – P – Michigan
157. Kyle Calloway – OT/OG - Iowa
158. George Selvie – DE/OLB – South Florida
159. Rashawn Jackson – FB – Virginia
160. David Pender – CB - Purdue
161. Kam Chancellor – S/LB – Virginia Tech
162. Pat Angerer – ILB – Iowa
163. Levi Brown – QB - Troy
164. Shelley Smith – OG – Colorado State
165. Danario Alexander – WR – Missouri
166. Joique Bell – RB – Wayne State
167. Zane Beadles – OG/OT – Utah
168. Dorin Dickerson – WR/H-B - Pittsburgh
169. Kurt Coleman – S – Ohio State
170. Zac Robinson – QB – Oklahoma State
171. Al Woods – DT – LSU
172. Freddie Barnes – WR – Bowling Green
173. Tony Pike – QB – Cincinnati
174. Mike Neal – DT - Purdue
175. John Conner – FB – Kentucky
176. Tony Moeaki – TE/H-B – Iowa
177. Josh Moore – CB – Kansas State
178. Dorian Brooks – OG – James Madison
179. Kevin Haslam – OT – Rutgers
180. Mike Williams – WR - Syracuse
181. Stafon Johnson – RB – USC
182. Antonio Brown – WR – Central Michigan
183. Clifton Geathers – DE –South Carolina
184. Jonathan Crompton – QB - Tennessee
185. Keaton Kristick – OLB – Oregon State
186. Justin Cole – OLB – San Jose State
187. Jeff Fitzgerald – DE – Kansas State
188. Ciron Black – OT/OG – LSU
189. Chris DeGeare – OG – Wake Forest
190. Naaman Roosevelt – WR – Buffalo
191. Trevard Lindley – CB - Kentucky
192. Hall Davis – DE – Louisiana-Lafayette
193. Joe Webb – WR – UAB
194. C.J. Wilson – DE – East Carolina
195. Lonyae Miller – RB – Fresno State
196. Earl Mitchell – DT/NT – Arizona
197. Walter Thurmond III – CB – Oregon
198. Barry Church – S – Toledo
199. Taylor Price – WR – Ohio
200. Armanti Edwards – QB/WR – Appalachian State



I disagree a little with your RB analysis. First you say Mathews is the most well rounded guy but he only caught a handful of passes at Fresno. Secondly, Dixon seems a bit high considering his lack of speed.

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 04:00 PM
They all did really well at the combine. That's the thing. Moeaki probably helped himself the most.

Articles are wrong, and Pudge is right?

Did you watch the Combine? I watched Speivey go through every single one of his drills & assure you that's not a player that displayed good hips, feet, or change of direction skills. I'll say it again, TSN is the worst draft source available on the internet. Everyone will have different rankings and as a whole Iowa players are tremendously overrated in yours.

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 04:03 PM
I disagree a little with your RB analysis. First you say Mathews is the most well rounded guy but he only caught a handful of passes at Fresno. Secondly, Dixon seems a bit high considering his lack of speed.

A lot of that on Matthews is knowing how he's been coached by Pat Hill. He's a guy that had to learn to pass block, to catch balls out of the backfield, and learned to use his eyes moving downhill. He looked good in Indy catching the ball and many see him as one of the draft's most well-rounded backs. Dixon's just a guy I love on tape and I think he has a chance to be a very good back at the NFL level. He's not going to blow you away in the 40 though, that's for sure.

nofalcons10
03-06-2010, 04:24 PM
no emmanuel sanders (SMU) or vince oghobaase?


personally i think oghobaase is 2nd or 3rd round talent.

golota
03-06-2010, 04:44 PM
A lot of that on Matthews is knowing how he's been coached by Pat Hill. He's a guy that had to learn to pass block, to catch balls out of the backfield, and learned to use his eyes moving downhill. He looked good in Indy catching the ball and many see him as one of the draft's most well-rounded backs. Dixon's just a guy I love on tape and I think he has a chance to be a very good back at the NFL level. He's not going to blow you away in the 40 though, that's for sure.

I like Mathews too. I rate gerhart/mathews/tate as my fave backs for the Chargers. My questions about him are the fact he was injured all 3 years of college, and he didnt seem to be tough at the goal line in the Bowl Game.

Supporting Caste
03-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Pudge - In all, you've obviously got a good list and, more importantly, you always have reasons behind your conclusions.

I have to ask though, how do you balance your considerations between film and combine workouts? For instance, Anthony Davis was appalling at the Combine, but your assessment of him seems relatively unaffected.

Other guys you seem to assess entirely based on how they worked out.

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 04:55 PM
Pudge - In all, you've obviously got a good list and, more importantly, you always have reasons behind your conclusions.

I have to ask though, how do you balance your considerations between film and combine workouts? For instance, Anthony Davis was appalling at the Combine, but your assessment of him seems relatively unaffected.

Other guys you seem to assess entirely based on how they worked out.

I think you really have to pick and choose. Some guys I felt so strongly about on film that nothing was going to change (which is sometimes the case). With others I felt like some huge questions were exposed at the Combine, though a player may have looked fine on film as a whole (which is also sometimes the case). It's very seldom random and as you said I have reasons for my conclusions. In a big way I think it depends on position...

An OL that blows up the Combine will surely raise their stock, but the evaluation for linemen is most telling on film. Andre Smith was the nation's best lineman a year ago and just had a skill-set that was not suited for the Combine/Pro Day; the case is similar for Jeff Otah a few years back, and that's why I don't expect a big lineman like Davis who may not have tested well strength & agility wise to be affected. I think Davis was hurt most from the immaturity he showed in interviews, but I think teams will view him as a high upside player at Left Tackle and a Top 10 pick.

I also would say the Combine is particularly telling for defensive backs because drills really show you a lot about a player's ability to run, change direction, move their feet, & play the ball. I think it says the least for players in the trenches/most for skill (DB/WR) players.

superman8456
03-06-2010, 04:59 PM
I'm not a big fan of your DT rankings. I think you've overrated Mr. Price and underrated Odrick.

BigBanger
03-06-2010, 05:43 PM
Did you watch the Combine? I watched Speivey go through every single one of his drills & assure you that's not a player that displayed good hips, feet, or change of direction skills. I'll say it again, TSN is the worst draft source available on the internet. Everyone will have different rankings and as a whole Iowa players are tremendously overrated in yours.
I'll just throw this out there, but Deion said Speivey had good / quick feet.


For whatever that is worth.

ThePudge
03-06-2010, 05:49 PM
I'll just throw this out there, but Deion said Speivey had good / quick feet.


For whatever that is worth.

His feet were the least of his problems and for the most part they looked good changing direction (with his feet) & fluid in his back-pedal (once again his footwork). He just plays very high-hipped and had a lot of trouble turning and running (a key CB skill). His ball skills looked average and his overall speed was lacking. I liked him on the field, but whatever questions people had a year ago with Malcolm Jenkins, they'll have double with Speivey who might also get looks at FS. We'll see... I like the 4th Round grade I have on him now.

vidae
03-06-2010, 06:33 PM
Great list and I thought you were great on JBs podcast.

Keep up the good work!

golota
03-06-2010, 07:11 PM
OK I will say that I believe Gerhart is the best RB of the group.

And should be the top back picked.

But I dont understand even if you dont agree with me, I dont understand why you rate him so low. He was the best college RB and provec his athleticism at the combine. SO whats up???

The other guys are not as good. PERIOD

BaLLiN
03-06-2010, 07:19 PM
OK I will say that I believe Gerhart is the best RB of the group.

And should be the top back picked.

But I dont understand even if you dont agree with me, I dont understand why you rate him so low. He was the best college RB and provec his athleticism at the combine. SO whats up???

The other guys are not as good. PERIOD

How did i know this post was going to be about Gerhart?

Paranoidmoonduck
03-06-2010, 08:12 PM
I disagree a little with your RB analysis. First you say Mathews is the most well rounded guy but he only caught a handful of passes at Fresno. Secondly, Dixon seems a bit high considering his lack of speed.

Jeez guy, way to quote the entire opening post.

Good stuff as always Pudge. I'm curious though, are you choosing to list Washington as a inside linebacker because that was his college position or because you actually think he'll play that position in the NFL (which seems to me highly improbable). Just curious since I saw you had Ducasse listed as a guard.

Hines
03-06-2010, 08:26 PM
Good work as always, but here are a few questions. Why do you have Jamar Chaney so low? I personally believe he can get picked in the second-third round. He performed in the proclaimed best conference in college football and really performed well at the Combine. Can Mitch Petrus play center? Lastly, why is Nate Allen so low? I personally believe he can sneak in the late first, mid second round area.

ThePudge
03-07-2010, 12:22 PM
Jeez guy, way to quote the entire opening post.

Good stuff as always Pudge. I'm curious though, are you choosing to list Washington as a inside linebacker because that was his college position or because you actually think he'll play that position in the NFL (which seems to me highly improbable). Just curious since I saw you had Ducasse listed as a guard.

I think Washington's most likely position is Weakside LB in a typical 4-3 or Tampa 2 scheme. Still in the habit of listing him at ILB, Graham at DE, etc. If it's an easier transition for him, I could see a team using him in the middle though I think it's far more likely we're looking a WLB that will be free to roam and cover backs/TEs in man situations.

JFLO
03-07-2010, 01:19 PM
pudge, when it comes to ranking the players overall (a la, Top 200), how do you rank one player over the other?

Do you go over position by position and say, this guy is better than this guy (for example, Sam Bradford will make a better pro than Dez Bryant).

Essentially, how do you make your Big Board?

ThePudge
03-07-2010, 01:30 PM
pudge, when it comes to ranking the players overall (a la, Top 200), how do you rank one player over the other?

Do you go over position by position and say, this guy is better than this guy (for example, Sam Bradford will make a better pro than Dez Bryant).

Essentially, how do you make your Big Board?

It's hard. I look at the perceived value they'd bring to a team with nothing and grade them based on how good of a prospect they are. For example, while Jimmy Clausen may bring a potential franchise QB, I think Dez Bryant has a better chance to be a star at his position. I think Bryant can help an offense more than Berry can help a defense, etc. It's very hard to explain and I guess to stay consistent on throughout, but you'll notice a little inflation for QBs/LTs, etc. I think Bradford brings more value to a team at QB, but I think Bryant/Berry more fit what I'd expect from the prototype (or ideal player) at their position.

It is tough to explain and the gaps aren't wide in most cases... I'll break it into a tier system (The top 3 Rounds at least) and help people get a better feel for how exactly I differentiate. Hope I could help, but it is tough to explain man.

golota
03-07-2010, 07:33 PM
Pudge/other readers,

Do you happen to know when if ever all of the OFFICIAL 40 times will be released to the public by the NFL?

ThePudge
03-08-2010, 08:42 PM
Good work as always, but here are a few questions. Why do you have Jamar Chaney so low? I personally believe he can get picked in the second-third round. He performed in the proclaimed best conference in college football and really performed well at the Combine. Can Mitch Petrus play center? Lastly, why is Nate Allen so low? I personally believe he can sneak in the late first, mid second round area.

I think Allen had a chnace to assert himself as a first round player at the Senior Bowl and I don't believe he did it. I worry a little about his short-area quickness and speed though I think some team will look to take him in the Early Third Round. Chaney just never blew me away on the field and was a nother guy that got the chance to impress in Mobile but never stood out. I like him as a Mid-Rounder.

scpanther22
03-08-2010, 09:19 PM
I think a 4-3 team will take george selvie.

ThePudge
03-09-2010, 01:46 PM
I think a 4-3 team will take george selvie.

I think the chances are 75/25 that he goes to a 4-3. I think there will be 3-4 teams with Selvie on their board though and after the 5th Round who knows what could possibly happen. He did well in LB drills at the Senior Bowl and may have some potential there, as a 3rd Down pass rusher, and a Special teamer.

nhlkdog411
03-09-2010, 04:08 PM
Awesome work overall man, bravo.

Shere Khan
03-10-2010, 01:08 PM
Very detailed, thourough analysis, Pudge.

Kudos.

ironman4579
03-13-2010, 12:56 PM
Pudge, while I know you are a guy that really uses tape and production more than the combine for evaluations (and I thank you for that), I was wondering if the news that Donovan Warren ran on a sprained ankle at the combine, would the 4.54 he ran on a still less than 100% ankle in borrowed cleats at Michigan's pro day cause you to move him up a little in your rankings? Or if there's positive reviews or an improved time at his and Graham's private workout on April 8th?

I don't actually disagree with your current ranking on him by the way, although I think a team that uses mainly man coverage will look at him quite a bit higher than zone teams, I was just wondering.

ThePudge
03-13-2010, 01:56 PM
Pudge, while I know you are a guy that really uses tape and production more than the combine for evaluations (and I thank you for that), I was wondering if the news that Donovan Warren ran on a sprained ankle at the combine, would the 4.54 he ran on a still less than 100% ankle in borrowed cleats at Michigan's pro day cause you to move him up a little in your rankings? Or if there's positive reviews or an improved time at his and Graham's private workout on April 8th?

I don't actually disagree with your current ranking on him by the way, although I think a team that uses mainly man coverage will look at him quite a bit higher than zone teams, I was just wondering.

I'm definitely going to be looking hard at that workout on the 8th. Based on what I've seen from UM & his Combine workout, I don't think he's going to end up in the first but he is a good player that will get his chance in the second round. I consider his foot speed & quickness a strong point in his game (along with strong ball skills & read and react ability), and I think he'll need to improve keeping his hips down as well as continue to make strides run-support.

I expect him in the mid 4.4 area with a healthy ankle and he obviously has the potential to be a starting Corner at the next level. He could bump up a bit in my rankings after the 8th, but there's not much he could do (in my eyes) that would drastically alter his stock.

Hines
03-13-2010, 02:05 PM
Pudge, can Saffold play LT in the NFL? I believe his versitilty is going to be a real turn on for NFL teams as he can play 4 of 5 OL positions IMO.

ThePudge
03-13-2010, 02:18 PM
Pudge, can Saffold play LT in the NFL? I believe his versitilty is going to be a real turn on for NFL teams as he can play 4 of 5 OL positions IMO.

For ZBS team like Houston/Green Bay I think it's a possibility, but when I see his frame & his physicality on the field I think of a good Left Guard prospect. I wouldn't hesitate to try Saffold at Left Tackle or on the right side if there is an injury there. Still, I think of Saffold more as a stop-gap at LT. He's not too short/short-armed, nor is he too frail for any OL position. I'd imagine there will a lot of teams with different ideas there. The Bengals put him through his position drills yesterday, and if he's there at 54th Overall he really would fit our OL scheme.

If I were Green Bay though, I'd like to grab a guy like Roger Saffold over USC's Charles Brown if I'm looking to reach on OL in the 1st Round.

Hines
03-13-2010, 02:22 PM
For ZBS team like Houston/Green Bay I think it's a possibility, but when I see his frame & his physicality on the field I think of a good Left Guard prospect. I wouldn't hesitate to try Saffold at Left Tackle or on the right side if there is an injury there. Still, I think of Saffold more as a stop-gap at LT. He's not too short/short-armed, nor is he too frail for any OL position. I'd imagine there will a lot of teams with different ideas there. The Bengals put him through his position drills yesterday, and if he's there at 54th Overall he really would fit our OL scheme.

If I were Green Bay though, I'd like to grab a guy like Roger Saffold over USC's Charles Brown if I'm looking to reach on OL in the 1st Round.

You think he could fit in Pittsburgh at RT?

Shane P. Hallam
03-13-2010, 02:24 PM
You think he could fit in Pittsburgh at RT?

I don't love Saffold's fit on the right side, Either LG or LT for him IMO.

ThePudge
03-13-2010, 02:28 PM
You think he could fit in Pittsburgh at RT?

It depends on what they're trying to do with that offense. I would be fine with Saffold inside at LG for a power-running team but I don't think he's necessarily ideal for a Tackle spot there. If, however, the Steelers are set on the 2009 passing based offense I'd say there is a chance they might look at the Indiana product. I'll let you know if I hear Pittsburgh associated with Saffold in coming weeks, and I'll be sure to keep an eye on the other Tackles/Guards they are talking to, try to notice a trend there in what they're looking for. I'm not positive right now though what the team is looking to do with the holes on their OL.

edit: As Shane touched on above, he doesn't have any experience on the right side so for the sake of footwork/hand use I think the Left side (Guard or Tackle) will be his place in the pros. Interesting to note that he was a 3 1/2 year starter only at LT for IU, though during the East-West Shrine week he showed power and good feet in a phone-booth inside at Guard.

Let me know if you know anything there and I'll survey a number of sources/players and see what I can find for you.

phlysac
03-13-2010, 02:28 PM
+ rep

Pudge,

Would you be so kind as to spotlight your analysis of Central Michigan WR Antonio Brown and why you feel he should remain modestly ranked in the later rounds.

Thanks in advance.

ThePudge
03-13-2010, 02:43 PM
+ rep

Pudge,

Would you be so kind as to spotlight your analysis of Central Michigan WR Antonio Brown and why you feel he should remain modestly ranked in the later rounds.

Thanks in advance.

Brown's simply a guy I had some expectations for coming into Indy, having watched him play plenty in the MAC & in person once (where he tore OU up.) I wanted to see some evidence that he's an NFL athlete, wanted to see that great foot quickness I saw at Central Michigan. I had projected Brown generously in the 4.4 range and his mid 4.5 time doesn't bode very well for his stock. He failed to make a strong impression in Indy with his explosiveness, feet, or hands. On film against MAC competition, he looks fast/quick, everything you'd want out of a slot/PR prospect. When stacked against the rest of the class he fails to stand out though and there doesn't appear to be any special NFL qualities.

I like Brown, I think he has a role at the next level, but I think he might be only a slightly better pro prospect than Texas' Quan Cosby was a year ago. In the NFL he may be able to forge a role as a slot receiver and perhaps punt returner. I think he could conceivably be drafted in the Late 4th-5th Round (slot/PR is a good role in the mid-rounds) but I'd expect more teams to grade Antonio in those later rounds.

ironman4579
03-13-2010, 04:50 PM
I'm definitely going to be looking hard at that workout on the 8th. Based on what I've seen from UM & his Combine workout, I don't think he's going to end up in the first but he is a good player that will get his chance in the second round. I consider his foot speed & quickness a strong point in his game (along with strong ball skills & read and react ability), and I think he'll need to improve keeping his hips down as well as continue to make strides run-support.

I expect him in the mid 4.4 area with a healthy ankle and he obviously has the potential to be a starting Corner at the next level. He could bump up a bit in my rankings after the 8th, but there's not much he could do (in my eyes) that would drastically alter his stock.

Thanks Pudge, I agree with you here. Do you agree that he seems to be much more refined and just overall better in man coverage, while zone awareness appears to be something of a weakness (although he improved this year playing it so often, I still tend to think he's far better matched up one on one.)?

Goganious
03-14-2010, 10:22 AM
First, Pudge, I would like to thank you for your excellent post. While I don't post very often, I am on these boards every day gobbling up all the draft discussion I can. Yours is by far the most well thought out and thorough analysis of the top prospects I've seen so far in this forum. Again, thank you for your hard work.

Also, I have 3 questions for you: Which DT do you see having the best NFL career as a 3-4 nose tackle. I realize its tough to project long term success as there are many variables that factor into the equation. Still, based on your contributions to this forum, I respect your opinion and would like to know what you think.

My second question is as follows: Does Derrick Morgan project well as a 3-4 OLB or is he strictly a hand-in-the-dirt guy? I have a sneaking suspicion that the new head coach of my favorite pro football team (Mr. Chan Gailey) may pull a draft day shocker out of his hat and draft the guy he recruited to Georgia Tech. However, if Morgan doesn't project as a 3-4 OLB, then my suspicion goes right out the window.

My third and final question: Do you believe its possible to land a left tackle in the 2nd round who has the ability to START immediately? If so, who?

Thank you again for your time and efforts.

ThePudge
03-14-2010, 02:27 PM
First, Pudge, I would like to thank you for your excellent post. While I don't post very often, I am on these boards every day gobbling up all the draft discussion I can. Yours is by far the most well thought out and thorough analysis of the top prospects I've seen so far in this forum. Again, thank you for your hard work.

Also, I have 3 questions for you: Which DT do you see having the best NFL career as a 3-4 nose tackle. I realize its tough to project long term success as there are many variables that factor into the equation. Still, based on your contributions to this forum, I respect your opinion and would like to know what you think.

My second question is as follows: Does Derrick Morgan project well as a 3-4 OLB or is he strictly a hand-in-the-dirt guy? I have a sneaking suspicion that the new head coach of my favorite pro football team (Mr. Chan Gailey) may pull a draft day shocker out of his hat and draft the guy he recruited to Georgia Tech. However, if Morgan doesn't project as a 3-4 OLB, then my suspicion goes right out the window.

My third and final question: Do you believe its possible to land a left tackle in the 2nd round who has the ability to START immediately? If so, who?

Thank you again for your time and efforts.


Thanks a lot man, good to see you posting on the board, I waited/read first before I began participating here too.As you said the situation each player falls in & the ability of the individual to handle success/fame/money ultimately will determine who will be most successful. Still, I think we see two Nose Tackle prospects that are far above the rest. Dan Williams (Tennessee) is ranked slightly higher on my board, but if he reaches his potential Alabama's Terrance "Mount" Cody will be the best Nose Tackle to come from this class and a real difference maker on D.

- I don't think Mount Cody will ever put up numbers per say, but as for any successful 3-4 NT, he'll impact the game in so many different ways and make the players around him better. He's as true a two-gap run-stuffer as you've ever seen, just an immovable object in the middle. He's disruptive in the sense that even when double teamed he may not actually budge & when his weight is down (in the 345-355 range) he moves pretty well and pushes the pocket a bit. His impact is felt most by the ILBs behind him, as they get free roam as you're not likely to see as many Guards/interior linemen getting to the second level. I think he offers the most potential to a franchise as a two-down, two-gap, run-stuffer that more or less makes the game 10 on 9. If he can keep his weight down & really wants it, I think a team wouldn't be unwise to take Cody among the draft's Top 10-15 picks.

The other first round option is Tennessee's Dan Williams as I noted earlier; North Carolina's Cam Thomas is thick, strong, & active enough to be a solid addition at NT in the 3rd Round or so; East Carolina's Linval Joseph is a bit tall, but he's thick & very powerful, he should garner interest in the 3rd-4th Rounds; Georgia's Jeff Owens is a bit more stout, like Williams, and has a lot of leverage/power, he has starter potential in the 4th Round; Late round possibilities at NT are Arizona's Earl Mitchell, North Carolina's Aleric Mullins, and East Carolina's Jay Ross.

- I've heard recently, via Daniel Jeremiah (former Browns/Ravens scout) that all the 3-4 teams he's talked to think Derrick Morgan can play Outside Linebacker. I wouldn't think that would be his best fit per say, but NFL teams don't necessarily need those long, athletic types all the time. Moving upfield in a pass-rushing OLB role is something that the former Yellow Jacket should be able to do. I'm not sure about Morgan moving backwards, however, getting depth in coverage and playing sideline to sideline. It also should be noted that the three teams he's talked to have Brandon Graham over Morgan on their board.

- I think you could be looking at a potential early starter in the 2nd Round in Southern Cal's Charles Brown. At 6'5 303 with long arms and very good athleticism, Brown is seen by many as a fringe First Round value but has not asserted himself as an elite pass-blocker & lacks a strong push in the run game. Still, if drafted in the Second, Brown could come in and start from Day One for a LT needy team. For Zone Blocking teams, Indiana's Roger Saffold is a three year starter at LT and fits the mold required by that scheme. Saffold may be better off inside at Guard, but I wouldn't be too afraid to use him as a stop-gap option at Tackle as he has more than adequate bulk, good athleticism, & solid technique. He should go anywhere from Early in the 2nd to the later stages of the round (Cincinnati/Green Bay/Philadelphia.)

Just wanted to let everyone know, also, that I've switched a few things around. I pushed myself to get this out early and since have taken other things into consideration & paid attention to a few Pro Days. By the end of the Pro days I'll have new boards/rankings up.

Some more major changes...

Moving Up
Thaddeus Gibson - OLB - Ohio State*
Mike Kafka - QB - Northwestern
Tony Moeaki - TE - Iowa
Tyson Alualu - DT/DE - California
Jason Worilds - OLB - Virginia Tech*
Jamar Chaney - ILB - Mississippi State
Montario Hardesty - RB - Tennessee

Moving Down
Syd'Quan Thompson - CB - California
Ricky Sapp - OLB - Clemson
Anthony McCoy - TE - USC

Longclaw
03-15-2010, 10:48 PM
Hey Pudge! Your analysis are always nice to read. Just want to ask who you think projects best for the Pats at DE and OLB with regards to their scheme and draft picks. Thanks!

bored of education
03-15-2010, 10:49 PM
thad gibson makes me hot

Rosebud
03-16-2010, 12:14 AM
just wondering about what yur thoughts on the giants and this year's DTs. I want price r Dan Williams and then Joseph or Troup later, but how realistic is that at our picks? Some are disappointed with Price and seem to feel he's dropping but he can't actually fall to the 2nd round, could he?

ThePudge
03-16-2010, 02:06 AM
Hey Pudge! Your analysis are always nice to read. Just want to ask who you think projects best for the Pats at DE and OLB with regards to their scheme and draft picks. Thanks!

Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. The best fits for the Pats at Defensive End (early) would be Penn State's Jared Odrick in the first round, and Arkansas State's Alex Carrington or Northwestern's Corey Wootton in the second. California's Tyson Alualu or Syracuse's Arthur Jones in the third are fits. Brandon Deadrick from Alabama is a late round option that fits a 3-4 scheme at End. Later round possibilities include Clifton Geathers (South Carolina), C.J. Wilson (East Carolina), and Doug Worthington (Ohio State).

A couple linebackers that could draw the team's attention early are Michigan's Brandon Graham, Georgia Tech's Derrick Morgan, or Texas' Sergio Kindle. In the second, possibilities are Utah's Koa Misi, Ohio State's Thaddeus Gibson, Va Tech's Jason Worilds, South Carolina's Eric Norwood, and Clemson's Ricky Sapp.

I know that's just a mess of names, but I imagine they'll be narrowing it down from that list. I know they've had a workout with Sapp but it was extremely hard to find any other evidence of Patriots' interest. Hope I could help!

Defsoul
03-16-2010, 07:05 AM
Ricky Sapp not explosive? He had one of the best times in the 10-yard split among all the DE/OLB tweener. His 1.59 was way better than Kindles 1.65. Only Jason Worlids put up a better time.

Grizzlegom
03-16-2010, 09:19 AM
Ricky Sapp not explosive? He had one of the best times in the 10-yard split among all the DE/OLB tweener. His 1.59 was way better than Kindles 1.65. Only Jason Worlids put up a better time.

I don't understand the Sapp hate either. I don't know what he's done to make people move him down boards. His knee checked out 100% healthy, he showed great straight line speed and performed extremely well in LB drills (arguably the best, right there with Hughes, Worilds, and Gibson). He showed good strength with his 23 reps, which was middle of the pack for DEs and weighed in at 252, only two pounds lighter than Worilds who has pretty many of the same questions/concerns (coming off an injury, had a down year, has been inconsistent), and 9 pounds HEAVIER than thad gibson as well. As far as DE/OLB guys, I have a hard time believing he isn't the top of the second tier (with guys like JPP, Kindle, Graham, Morgan, and Griffen being the first tier).

another guy I've got a beef with everyone seemingly moving down their boards is Tony Pike. I've seen some people move him completely out of their top 10, including Pudge, so I'm just wondering what he has done to warrant that. I know he struggled with consistency in his accuracy at both the Senior Bowl and the Combine but if you are going by that, Tim Tebow should be free-falling as well. Like Tebow will do tomorrow, Pike unveiled his new throwing motion and grip on the ball at his Pro Day and from everything I've heard, the difference was night and day and he looked GREAT and restored his stock, looking accurate and having a lot more zip on his passes. I know he isn't the greatest leader but from what I've seen heard, everyone seems to love the guy and he has great character and is clean off the field. I just don't understand how his pro day can be discounted so much when all the other top QBs are going to be living and dying on theirs.

thetedginnshow
03-16-2010, 09:27 AM
He actually went back to his old grip. He tried something new at the Senior Bowl.

Longclaw
03-21-2010, 11:56 PM
Your thoughts on Tyson Alualu? Heard the Pats are pretty high on him. Again many thanks!

ThePudge
03-22-2010, 01:03 AM
Your thoughts on Tyson Alualu? Heard the Pats are pretty high on him. Again many thanks!

I'll tell you what, I like him a lot as a 3-Tech, maybe not so much as a Pats 5-Tech. I just conducted an interview with him and I'll send you his responses (not allowed to post them on this site) via Private Message. Should have them in a couple days for you. I'm high on Alualu though and I think the Pats would have to use one of their 2nd Rounders on him. He's a guy that's not quite as scheme specific as say, Brian Price, but I've got doubts about his length/strength as a 3-4 DE (though it's no secret those teams are looking at him). I'll shoot you a PM when I get Tyson's take.

Longclaw
03-22-2010, 02:19 AM
Thanks for that Pudge. Appreciate it. I read somewhere that he can be a force when coached by great defensive coaching mind.

ImBrotherCain
03-29-2010, 09:03 PM
Bump for awesomeness

PrimetimeTheDon
03-30-2010, 01:53 PM
ThePudge, it's clear you do your homework.

That is why I am so confused. Toby Gerhart is like Anthony Dixon on steroids. I am confident that if you review the tape with an open mind you will alter your rankings.

mario
03-30-2010, 02:59 PM
Pudge, thanks for your awesome work, really I appreciate that.

Now, what's your thoughts on ASU WR Kyle Williams?

He wasn't very productive (mainly because he was the slot guy in a '2 WR set' offense) and many people had him as a 7th/UDFA.

With his 4.3 40 at ASU Pro Day, how much do you think he boost his stock? (althought we all knew he has speed).

I hope you don't have McGaha above him, you might disappoint me :p

Thanks!

ThePudge
03-30-2010, 04:32 PM
ThePudge, it's clear you do your homework.

That is why I am so confused. Toby Gerhart is like Anthony Dixon on steroids. I am confident that if you review the tape with an open mind you will alter your rankings.

I'm a huge Dixon fan & he will continue to stay very high in my rankings though I expect he'll be drafted in the 3rd-4th while Gerhart has a chance to go a full round or so earlier. It's hard to explain what exactly boosts Dixon on my board, but he's my favorite of the SEC Backs (Tate, Hardesty, etc.) I find him to be slightly more explosive on the field, more fluid changing gears, and I find him to be a slightly more patient runner with the same kind of pop that Gerhart brings on contact. I like that Dixon brings a bit of wiggle in the hole & open field, I think the knee brace Toby wears when he plays hampers his ability to elude tacklers & change direction as well as he did, say, at the NFL Combine. Another aspect of his game that I like more than Gerhart's is his experience as a run & pass blocker and a bit more experienced and natural as a receiver.

Now, Gerhart tests better and has fewer questions when it comes to character so I think he'll go earlier than Dixon. Both players profile as early-down power backs at the next level, but I think Dixon brings slightly more upside to be a team's feature back some day. He was largely masked by inferior talent at Mississippi State and could handle responsibilities playing Fullback some downs.

Two guys I've watched an extensive amount and I'm with everyone that says it's clear Gerhart is a Running Back. He'll be drafted, likely in the Mid 2nd-Early 3rd to play RB, not FB, but I think Dixon who will likely fall in the Early 3rd-Early 4th range has slightly more promise (to me) as a feature back.

ThePudge
03-30-2010, 04:36 PM
Pudge, thanks for your awesome work, really I appreciate that.

Now, what's your thoughts on ASU WR Kyle Williams?

He wasn't very productive (mainly because he was the slot guy in a '2 WR set' offense) and many people had him as a 7th/UDFA.

With his 4.3 40 at ASU Pro Day, how much do you think he boost his stock? (althought we all knew he has speed).

I hope you don't have McGaha above him, you might disappoint me :p

Thanks!

I like Williams more than McGaha, yes. I think teams are more likely to draft a potential burner for the slot than they are a sure-handed, but vertically challenged receiver for the outside. I think Williams will get looks later on Day Three as a potential slot guy/Punt Return option. At 5'10 188 with sub 4.4 speed, he's looking at a pretty premium skill set that puts him in a similar boat to SMU WR Emmanuel Sanders. I'd say he has a chance to go as high as the 5th, but I like his value in the 6th Round area. A very draftable prospect even before his Pro Day that is really gaining momentum later on here in the process.


Also, these rankings are a bit outdated... I've been in the process of altering them for an Early-April look. Any questions on player value are relevant... My rankings will likely include 350+ players, more analysis, & a new 255 player Big Board as we're now nearing the draft at a rapid pace.

Keep an eye out for my Bengals Draft Database which should be available by the end of the week, most of my positional rankings will be in there & everything that is not should be a part of my next big draft post (like this one).

PrimetimeTheDon
03-30-2010, 05:57 PM
I'm a huge Dixon fan & he will continue to stay very high in my rankings though I expect he'll be drafted in the 3rd-4th while Gerhart has a chance to go a full round or so earlier. It's hard to explain what exactly boosts Dixon on my board, but he's my favorite of the SEC Backs (Tate, Hardesty, etc.) I find him to be slightly more explosive on the field, more fluid changing gears, and I find him to be a slightly more patient runner with the same kind of pop that Gerhart brings on contact. I like that Dixon brings a bit of wiggle in the hole & open field, I think the knee brace Toby wears when he plays hampers his ability to elude tacklers & change direction as well as he did, say, at the NFL Combine. Another aspect of his game that I like more than Gerhart's is his experience as a run & pass blocker and a bit more experienced and natural as a receiver.

Now, Gerhart tests better and has fewer questions when it comes to character so I think he'll go earlier than Dixon. Both players profile as early-down power backs at the next level, but I think Dixon brings slightly more upside to be a team's feature back some day. He was largely masked by inferior talent at Mississippi State and could handle responsibilities playing Fullback some downs.

Two guys I've watched an extensive amount and I'm with everyone that says it's clear Gerhart is a Running Back. He'll be drafted, likely in the Mid 2nd-Early 3rd to play RB, not FB, but I think Dixon who will likely fall in the Early 3rd-Early 4th range has slightly more promise (to me) as a feature back.

I just don't see what you're looking at. Dixon has no explosion at all. He has solid wiggle, patience and vision. But no burst. Backs don't succeed at the NFL level without some burst. Dixon pretty much has none.

I've watched him live and on tape. I come to the same conclusion each time - nice back, but not enough of a 1st step to ever be a feature back in the nfl.

ThePudge
03-30-2010, 06:13 PM
I just don't see what you're looking at. Dixon has no explosion at all. He has solid wiggle, patience and vision. But no burst. Backs don't succeed at the NFL level without some burst. Dixon pretty much has none.

I've watched him live and on tape. I come to the same conclusion each time - nice back, but not enough of a 1st step to ever be a feature back in the nfl.

He has more build-up speed and doesn't exactly explode as much as say C.J. Spiller obviously. When I'm saying explosiveness here I don't mean to imply that he's a dynamic back, but compared to Gerhart I find that he comes out of cuts with more acceleration & more naturally. His 10'1 broad jump at the Combine (9'10 at his Pro Day) showed some of that athleticism & explosiveness. I don't see any more burst from Gerhart, though his first five yards were typically given to him in a Zone Blocking scheme behind a very good line in the Pac-10.

A personal favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zRDOMM0-2M&feature=related

I don't think you need an elite first step to be good back in the NFL. Vision & the ability to change speeds and follow blocks are more important for me. I think Shonn Greene will ride a similar skill-set to a starting role in New York in his second year.

Everyone will have different opinions though, you like Clausen more than Bradford. I like Dixon... a lot. I have since his first game as a college player. Some times people can view the same film and see different things.

PrimetimeTheDon
03-30-2010, 07:20 PM
He has more build-up speed and doesn't exactly explode as much as say C.J. Spiller obviously. When I'm saying explosiveness here I don't mean to imply that he's a dynamic back, but compared to Gerhart I find that he comes out of cuts with more acceleration & more naturally. His 10'1 broad jump at the Combine (9'10 at his Pro Day) showed some of that athleticism & explosiveness. I don't see any more burst from Gerhart, though his first five yards were typically given to him in a Zone Blocking scheme behind a very good line in the Pac-10.

A personal favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zRDOMM0-2M&feature=related

I don't think you need an elite first step to be good back in the NFL. Vision & the ability to change speeds and follow blocks are more important for me. I think Shonn Greene will ride a similar skill-set to a starting role in New York in his second year.

Everyone will have different opinions though, you like Clausen more than Bradford. I like Dixon... a lot. I have since his first game as a college player. Some times people can view the same film and see different things.

*shrug* I scouted Greene extensively last year and there was a time he was the #1 back on my board until final film study put Beanie as the #1. Greene was much more fluid and explosive in the open field than Dixon is.

I just disagree with you pretty strongly about Anthony Dixon. I also strongly disagree that he is as explosive as Gerhart.

I think your rankings are quite good so it's a shame I'm focusing on such a small issue. I particularly appreciate your WR rankings. Our QB rankings are fairly similar too, and despite our discussions on Clausen vs Bradford, the seperation from where I'll rank them and where you rank them is ultimately only about 10 spots.