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YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 06:36 PM
Because of many big moves made today, I stopped after 5th Round.
Round. This mock is locked between Peppers signing with Bears and Boldin traded to Ravens.

Round 1

1. St. Louis (1-15)- QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma.
2. Detroit (2-14)- DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska.
3. Tampa Bay (3-13)- DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma.
4. Washington (4-12)- OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State.
5. Kansas City (4-12)- FS Eric Berry, Tennessee.
6. Seattle (5-11)- OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland.
7. Cleveland (5-11)- OLB/DE Jason Pierrer-Paul, South Florida.
8. Oakland (5-11)- DE Everson Griffen, Southern California.
9. Buffalo (6-10)- LB Rolando McClain, Alabama.
10. Jacksonville (7-9)- DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech.
11. Denver - from Chicago (7-9)- ILB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri.
12. Miami (7-9)- TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma.
13. San Francisco (8-8)- OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers.
14. Seattle - from Denver (8-8)- RB CJ Spiller, Clemson.
15. New York Giants (8-8)- SS Earl Thomas, Texas.
16. Tennessee (8-8)- CB Devin McCourty, Rutgers.
17. San Francisco - from Carolina (8-8)- QB Jimmy Clausen, Norte Dame.
18. Pittsburgh (9-7)- CB Joe Haden, Florida.
19. Atlanta (9-7)- CB Kyle Wilson, Boise State.
20. Houston (9-7)- RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State.
21. Cincinnati* (10-6)- WR Golden Tate, Norte Dame.
22. New England* (10-6)- OLB Jerry Hughes, Texas Christian.
23. Green Bay* (11-5)- OT Charles Brown, Southern California.
24. Philadelphia* (11-5)- DE Sergio Kindle, Texas.
25. Baltimore* (9-7)- WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State.
26. Arizona* (10-6)- OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan.
27. Dallas* (11-5)- OT Bryan Bulaga, Iowa.
28. San Diego* (13-3)- DE Jared Odrick, Penn State.
29. New York Jets* (9-7)- DE Mike Neal, Purdue.
30. Minnesota* (12-4)- S Taylor Mays, Southern California.
31. Indianapolis* (14-2)- DT Brian Price, UCLA.
32. New Orleans* (13-3)- OLB Eric Norwood, South Carolina.


Round 2

1. St. Louis (1-15)- DT Lamaar Houston, Texas.
2. Detroit (2-14)- CB Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest.
3. Tampa Bay (3-13)- WR Damien Williams, Southern California.
4. Kansas City (4-12)- DT Dan Williams, Tennessee.
5. Washington (4-12)- RB Jahvid Best, California.
6. Cleveland (5-11)- CB Kareem Jackson, Alabama.
7. Oakland (5-11)- OT Jared Veldheer, Hillsdale.
8. Seattle (5-11)- WR Arrelious Benn, Illinois.
9. Buffalo (6-10)- OT Trent Williams, Oklahoma.
10. Tampa Bay - from Chicago (7-9)-DE Carlos Dunlap, Florida.
11. Miami (7-9)- OLB Ricky Sapp, Clemson.
12. New England - from Jacksonville (7-9)- TE Jimmy Graham, Miami-FL.
13. Denver (8-8)- NT Terrence Cody, Alabama.
14. New York Giants (8-8)- DT Geno Atkins, Georgia.
15. New England - from Tennessee (8-8)- WR Carlton Mitchell, South Florida.
16. Carolina (8-8)- WR Mardy Gilyard, Cincinnati.
17. San Francisco (8-8)- RB Ben Tate, Auburn.
18. Kansas City - from Atlanta (9-7)- OL Rodger Saffold, Indiana.
19. Houston (9-7)- DT Jeff Owens, Georgia.
20. Pittsburgh (9-7)- ILB Brandon Spikes, Florida.
21. New England* (10-6)- DE Arthur Jones, Syracuse.
22. Cincinnati* (10-6)- S Chad Jones, Louisiana State.
23. Philadelphia* (11-5)- G Mike Iupati, Idaho.
24. Green Bay* (11-5)- ATH Jacoby Ford, Clemson.
25. Baltimore* (9-7)- CB Chris Cook, Virginia.
26. Arizona* (10-6)- CB Patrick Robinson, Florida State.
27. Dallas* (11-5)- S Nate Allen, South Florida.
28. San Diego* (13-3)- RB Joe McKnight, Southern California.
29. New York Jets* (9-7)- CB Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt.
30. Minnesota* (12-4)- QB Tim Tebow, Florida.
31. Indianapolis* (14-2)- C Maurkice Pouncey, Florida.
32. New Orleans* (13-3)- DE Tyson Alualu, California.







Round 3

1. St. Louis (1-15)- OLB Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State.
2. Detroit (2-14)- LB Daryl Washington, Texas Christian.
3. Tampa Bay (3-13)- RT Vladimir Ducasse, Massachusetts.
4. Kansas City (4-12)- TE Rob Gronkowski, Arizona.
5. Oakland (5-11)- WR Dorin Dickerson, Pittsburgh.
6. Philadelphia - from Seattle (5-11)- LB Dekoda Watson, Florida State.
7. Cleveland (5-11)- RT Zane Beadles, Utah.
8. Buffalo (6-10)- NT Linval Joseph, East Carolina.
9. Miami (7-9)- NT Cam Thomas, North Carolina.
10. Jacksonville (7-9)- QB Jarrett Brown, West Virginia.
11. Chicago (7-9)- RT Jason Fox, Miami-FL.
12. New York Giants (8-8)- QB Tony Pike, Cincinnati.
13. Tennessee (8-8)- WR Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech.
14. Carolina (8-8)- RS Trindon Holliday, Louisiana State.
15. San Francisco (8-8)- S Darrell Stuckey, Kansas.
16. Denver (8-8)- WR Emmanuel Sanders, Southern Methodist.
17. Houston (9-7)- DB Amari Spivey, Iowa.
18. Pittsburgh (9-7)- RB Montario Hardesty, Tennessee.
19. Atlanta (9-7)- DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern.
20. Cincinnati* (10-6)- OL John Perry, Ole Miss.
21. Oakland - from New England* (10-6)- CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, Indiana (PA).
22. Green Bay* (11-5)- OLB Jason Worilds, Virginia Tech.
23. Philadelphia* (11-5)- RB Toby Gerhart, Stanford.
24. Baltimore* (9-7)- DE Corey Peters, Kentucky.
25. Arizona* (10-6)- OT Marshall Newhouse, Texas Christian.
26. Dallas* (11-5)- NT Torell Troup, Central Florida.
27. San Diego* (13-3)- NT Jay Ross, East Carolina.
28. Cleveland - from New York Jets* (9-7)- S Major Wright, Florida.
29. Minnesota* (12-4)- RB James Starks, Buffalo.
30. Indianapolis* (14-2)- CB Dominique Franks, Oklahoma.
31. New Orleans* (13-3)- ATH Dexter McCluster, Ole Miss.





Round 4

1. St. Louis (1-15)- OLB Navorro Bowman, Penn State.
2. Detroit (2-14)- OG Shawn Lauvae, Arizona.
3. Tampa Bay (3-13)- CB AJ Jefferson, Fresno State.
4. Kansas City (4-12)- C/G Joe Hawley, UNLV.
5. Washington (4-12)- OT Tony Washington, Abilene Christian.
6. Seattle (5-11)- DE Daniel Te'o'-Nesheim, Washington.
7. Cleveland (5-11)- WR Donald Jones, Youngstown State.
8. Oakland (5-11)- G Mike Petrus, Arkansas.
9. Buffalo (6-10)- WR Brandon LeFall, Louisiana State.
10. Jacksonville (7-9)- WR Marcus Easley, Connecticut.
11. Chicago (7-9)- S Robert Johnson, Utah.
12. Miami (7-9)- WR Scott Long, Louisville.
13. Tennessee (8-8)- QB John Skelton, Forham.
14. Carolina (8-8)- QB Jevan Snead, Ole Miss.
15. San Francisco (8-8)- C JD walton, Boston College.
16. Denver (8-8)- S Jonathon Amaya, Nevada.
17. New York Giants (8-8)- DE Thaddeus Gibson, Ohio State
18. Pittsburgh (9-7)- ILB Donald Butler, Washington.
19. Atlanta (9-7)- LB Kavell Conner, Clemson.
20. Houston (9-7)- C Matt Tennant, Boston College.
21. New England* (10-6)- ILB Pat Angerer, Iowa.
22. Cincinnati* (10-6)- TE Andrew Quarless, Penn State.
23. Philadelphia* (11-5)- DE Hall Davis, Louisiana-Lafayette.
24. Green Bay* (11-5)- HB Aaron Hernandez, Florida.
25. Baltimore* (9-7)- WR Andre Roberts, The Citadel.
26. Arizona* (10-6)- TE Dennis Pitta, Brigham Young.
27. Dallas* (11-5)- WR Taylor Price, Ohio.
28. San Diego* (13-3)- OT Selvish Capers, West virginia.
29. Philadelphia - from New York Jets* (9-7)- TE Clay Harbor, Missouri State.
30. Minnesota* (12-4)- DT Brandon Deaderick, Alabama.
31. Indianapolis* (14-2)- TE Ed Dickson, Oregon.
32. New Orleans* (13-3) - DE Alex Carrington, Arkansas State.






Round 5

1. St. Louis (1-15)- TE Anthony McCoy, Southern California.
2. Detroit (2-14)- CB Perrish Cox, OKlahoma State.
3. Cleveland - from Tampa Bay (3-13)- CB Javier Arenas, Alabama.
4. Washington (4-12)- OLB Arthur Moats, James Madison.
5. Kansas City (4-12)- C Eric Olson, Norte Dame.
6. Cleveland (5-11)- S Morgan Burnett, Georgia.
7. Oakland (5-11)- C Ted Larsen, North Carolina State.
8. Seattle (5-11)- QB Zac Robinson, OKlahoma.
9. Buffalo (6-10)- OLB Koa Misi, Utah.
10. Chicago (7-9)- DT D'Anthony Smith, Louisiana Tech.
11. Kansas City - from Miami (7-9)- WR Riley Cooper, Florida.
12. Jacksonville (7-9)- DE Jermaine Cunningham, Florida.
13. Kansas City - from Carolina (8-8)- WR Chris McGaha, Arizona.
14. San Francisco (8-8)- RS Brandon James, Florida.
15. Detroit - from Denver (8-8)- RB Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech.
16. New York Giants (8-8)- G Mike Johnson, Alabama.
17. Tennessee (8-8)- DE Kevin Basped, Nevada.
18. Atlanta (9-7)- WR Bliar White, Michigan State.
19. Houston (9-7)- CB Jerome Murphy, South Florida.
20. Pittsburgh (9-7)- OL Chris Scott, Tennessee.
21. Cincinnati* (10-6)- DT Earl Mitchell, Arizona.
22. Tampa Bay - from New England* (10-6)- OLB Perry Riley, Louisiana State.
23. Green Bay* (11-5)- OT Sam Young, Norte Dame.
24. St. Louis - from Philadelphia* (11-5)- WR Mike Williams, Syracuse.
25. Baltimore* (9-7)- OLB Larry Hart, Central Arkansas.
26. Arizona* (10-6)- ILB Darryl Sharpton, Miami-Fl.
27. Oakland - from New England via Denver and Dallas* (11-5)- OLB Roddrick Muckelroy, Texas.
28. San Diego* (13-3)- G Shelley Smith, Colorado State.
29. Cleveland - from New York Jets* (9-7)- QB Jonathan Crompton, Tennessee.
30. Minnesota* (12-4)- CB Donovan Warren, Michigan.
31. Indianapolis* (14-2)- S Reshad Jones, Georgia.
32. New York Jets - from Philadelphia via New Orleans* (13-3)- OL Alex Parsons, Southern California.

T-RICH49
03-05-2010, 06:42 PM
Dwyer over McGaha and it's a PERFECT KC draft

zachsaints52
03-05-2010, 08:13 PM
Horrible.... HORRIBLE Saints mock... You have us reaching for Norwood when Dan Williams slides to the 2nd? Alualu is actually a DT, but Daryl Washington is there. Why would we need McCluster when he is a Reggie Bush type player? And Bowman is there, so even better for the Saints to get him. But Carrington is a nice pick. Going by your style Saints should get
1. Dan Williams
2. Daryl Washington
3. J.D. Walton
4. Carrington is fine.

vidae
03-05-2010, 08:16 PM
Dwyer over McGaha and it's a PERFECT KC draft

Leave us McGaha! Give Dwyer over Cooper and THEN it's perfect!

thebow305
03-05-2010, 08:24 PM
VERY Nice Phins draft.

I love Gresham and would be happy if we drafted him. But WR is a bigger need, and if Dez Bryant fell to us at #12, we'd HAVE to take him! So if we took Dez in the first, then we could take Dennis Pitta in the 4th.

Either that, or give us Mike Williams in the 4th instead of Scott Long. He's more of a #1 than Long.

Smooth Criminal
03-05-2010, 08:28 PM
Yes ******* please for Pittsburgh. I'd kill for Haden and Spikes.

T-RICH49
03-05-2010, 08:38 PM
I should also aff Spikes with our 2nd 2nd rounder.Berry+Williams+Spikes = NASTY

summond822
03-05-2010, 08:49 PM
6. Seattle (5-11)- OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland.
14. Seattle - from Denver (8-8)- RB CJ Spiller, Clemson.
8. Seattle (5-11)- WR Arrelious Benn, Illinois.
6. Seattle (5-11)- DE Daniel Te'o'-Nesheim, Washington.
8. Seattle (5-11)- QB Zac Robinson, OKlahoma.

Campbell...hell no...I'd rather take Clausen over Campbell...thats how much I don't like him. (and i'm not too excited about Clausen at 6).

I love me some Spiller, but at the same time, it might be kind of hard to justify passing on Clausen at 14.

Love Benn in the second.

Think that might be a bit high for Teo'Nesheim and I love him. I think Thaddeus Gibson has more potential, and thus is probably the pick there.

I'll take Robinson in the 5th. Could turn out to be our starting QB for years.

wonderbredd24
03-05-2010, 08:51 PM
Awful Browns draft

Give us Joe Haden, then Mike Iupati or Trent Williams or Vladimir Ducasse or Rob Gronkowski, then Cam Thomas or Montario Hardesty or John Jerry, then 2 of Ed Dickson, Thad Gibson, Alex Carrington, and Anthony McCoy with the latter 3rd and 4th, then the first 2 picks in round 5 are fine, but give us Donovan Warren over Crompton

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 08:58 PM
Horrible.... HORRIBLE Saints mock... You have us reaching for Norwood when Dan Williams slides to the 2nd? Alualu is actually a DT, but Daryl Washington is there. Why would we need McCluster when he is a Reggie Bush type player? And Bowman is there, so even better for the Saints to get him. But Carrington is a nice pick. Going by your style Saints should get
1. Dan Williams
2. Daryl Washington
3. J.D. Walton
4. Carrington is fine.

Williams is more of holding the fort. Alualu can run all directions to go with his run stuffing ability.

Norwood offers better run support than Bowman. Washington is not going to Saints unless they dump Vilma.

Unbiased
03-05-2010, 08:59 PM
For Jacksonville, I wouldn't pass on Clausen, but if they're okay with Garrard then I would do this:

1. Derrick Morgan
3. Jarrett Brown
4. Robert Johnson or Jonathan Amaya
5. Mike Johnson

Good picks overall.

Hines
03-05-2010, 09:01 PM
Beautiful mock.

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:03 PM
Campbell...hell no...I'd rather take Clausen over Campbell...thats how much I don't like him. (and i'm not too excited about Clausen at 6).

I love me some Spiller, but at the same time, it might be kind of hard to justify passing on Clausen at 14.

Love Benn in the second.

Think that might be a bit high for Teo'Nesheim and I love him. I think Thaddeus Gibson has more potential, and thus is probably the pick there.

I'll take Robinson in the 5th. Could turn out to be our starting QB for years.


I dont like Campbell too but I could not see them taking Charles Brown for better value.

Gibson could not go wrong if they find a room for rushing LB, the position that belongs to Curry. TeoN has size and good combine numbers to play DL.

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:05 PM
Leave us McGaha! Give Dwyer over Cooper and THEN it's perfect!

I have hesitated to give them Dwyer because he only can run one direction. Haley will go ballistic if Dwyer cant do COD.

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:06 PM
For Jacksonville, I wouldn't pass on Clausen, but if they're okay with Garrard then I would do this:

1. Derrick Morgan
3. Jarrett Brown
4. Robert Johnson or Jonathan Amaya
5. Mike Johnson

Good picks overall.

I go with qb stereotype. lol. Brown has better mobility than Clausen. I think Jaguars should draft more than enough DE.

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:09 PM
Awful Browns draft

Give us Joe Haden, then Mike Iupati or Trent Williams or Vladimir Ducasse or Rob Gronkowski, then Cam Thomas or Montario Hardesty or John Jerry, then 2 of Ed Dickson, Thad Gibson, Alex Carrington, and Anthony McCoy with the latter 3rd and 4th, then the first 2 picks in round 5 are fine, but give us Donovan Warren over Crompton


Iupati and Ducasse wont fit Mangini scheme. Williams maybe. Jackson has experience in 3-4 man coverage scheme Ryan likes. Browns have dozens of DL.

wonderbredd24
03-05-2010, 09:14 PM
Iupati and Ducasse wont fit Mangini scheme. Williams maybe. Jackson has experience in 3-4 man coverage scheme Ryan likes. Browns have dozens of DL.

Why won't Iupati and Ducasse fit in Mangini's scheme? Mangini has said he prefers bigger linemen, he brought in Floyd Womack last year, and Tom Heckert is the new GM who had the biggest set of linemen in all of the NFL in Philadelphia

The front seven has almost no impact on the secondary, so basing a corner selection on that is insane.

The Browns have 1 defensive linemen they've drafted and developed themselves in Athyba Rubin. They are desperate for youth. They could use another nose to develop behind Rubin and they have basically nothing under 30 playing at defensive end and even less athleticism at that position.

Grizzlegom
03-05-2010, 09:19 PM
VERY Nice Phins draft.

I love Gresham and would be happy if we drafted him. But WR is a bigger need, and if Dez Bryant fell to us at #12, we'd HAVE to take him! So if we took Dez in the first, then we could take Dennis Pitta in the 4th.

Either that, or give us Mike Williams in the 4th instead of Scott Long. He's more of a #1 than Long.

i actually agree with everything he said haha.

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:21 PM
Why won't Iupati and Ducasse fit in Mangini's scheme? Mangini has said he prefers bigger linemen, he brought in Floyd Womack last year, and Tom Heckert is the new GM who had the biggest set of linemen in all of the NFL in Philadelphia

The front seven has almost no impact on the secondary, so basing a corner selection on that is insane.

The Browns have 1 defensive linemen they've drafted and developed themselves in Athyba Rubin. They are desperate for youth. They could use another nose to develop behind Rubin and they have basically nothing under 30 playing at defensive end and even less athleticism at that position.

They pay a lot of money on DL. That is why I hold DL until late round.

Mangini likes leaner OL with lighter footwork. Both Iupati and Ducasse displayed the heavy footwork right now. Mangini will force them to trim down to get leaner. It will take them a few years to complete the task and Mangini may or may not be around.

Heckert and Mangini have different philosophy but I go with Mangini this time. Another time I will go with Heckert.

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:22 PM
i actually agree with everything he said haha.

Long runs faster. Said enough. lol.

wonderbredd24
03-05-2010, 09:26 PM
They pay a lot of money on DL. That is why I hold DL until late round.

Mangini likes leaner OL with lighter footwork. Both Iupati and Ducasse displayed the heavy footwork right now. Mangini will force them to trim down to get leaner. It will take them a few years to complete the task and Mangini may or may not be around.

Heckert and Mangini have different philosophy but I go with Mangini this time. Another time I will go with Heckert.

Ummm... what? Iupati is ridiculously athletic for a man his size including his feet. He just has no kick slide because he has no clue what he's doing at tackle.

Ducasse's feet are good enough to play tackle... he's certainly able to play guard if need be.

Leaner offensive linemen? Mangini brought in a 320lb center/guard in Rex Hadnot and a 335lb G/T in Floyd Womack last year. He also desperately tried to get Eric Steinbach to beef up and had Joe Thomas add some weight, when he was already at 310lbs. He also drafted a 310lb center in Alex Mack.

And who pays a lot of money for DLine? The only guy making any money on the Browns along the defensive line is Shaun Rogers.

redbills
03-05-2010, 09:47 PM
Cam Thomas in R3 and I'd LOVE LOVE it. Also I'd take Clausen over Lando.

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:53 PM
Ummm... what? Iupati is ridiculously athletic for a man his size including his feet. He just has no kick slide because he has no clue what he's doing at tackle.

Ducasse's feet are good enough to play tackle... he's certainly able to play guard if need be.

Leaner offensive linemen? Mangini brought in a 320lb center/guard in Rex Hadnot and a 335lb G/T in Floyd Womack last year. He also desperately tried to get Eric Steinbach to beef up and had Joe Thomas add some weight, when he was already at 310lbs. He also drafted a 310lb center in Alex Mack.

And who pays a lot of money for DLine? The only guy making any money on the Browns along the defensive line is Shaun Rogers.


Womack is over 330? Hell no. Mangini likes to have 310-320 as long as they can move around well. Steinbach was well under 300. Thomas has to added some muscle because he was finesse. Mangini wanted to have stronger than finesse OL but not heavy or power OL.

Iupati has athleticism for his size but he does move well for Mangini's liking. Both Iupati and Ducasse are candidates for ballooning to 330-340 easily. Mangini will say pass on both.


Shaun Smith and Corey Williams were pricy but I was not aware that Williams is now with Lions. Too late to change.

PhysicalwithanF
03-05-2010, 09:55 PM
Davis is good at #13 and then it just goes downhill..

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:55 PM
Cam Thomas in R3 and I'd LOVE LOVE it. Also I'd take Clausen over Lando.

Bills convert to 3-4 scheme so they need the mike for that. McClain has rich experience in 3-4 under Saban and has been a leader for them.

YotoJets007
03-05-2010, 09:56 PM
Davis is good at #13 and then it just goes downhill..

no kidding?

wonderbredd24
03-05-2010, 09:57 PM
Shaun Smith wasn't pricey and he was cut last year during the season.

Iupati and Ducasse are already in the 330 neighborhood and Heckert/Holmgren are the ones making the picks and I think you're wrong about Mangini and underestimating how athletic both guys are.

zachsaints52
03-05-2010, 10:32 PM
Williams is more of holding the fort. Alualu can run all directions to go with his run stuffing ability.

Norwood offers better run support than Bowman. Washington is not going to Saints unless they dump Vilma.

Thats all we need whatever DT we draft to do, hold down the fort, basically be a NT type player. Washington can play OLBB. and I hope Norwood can do better then Bowman on run support, being the difference between using a 1st and 3rd on the players. Don't get me wrong ,I love Norwood. But for the first with Williams there will be a horrible move and wouldnt help the rest of the draft at all.

Mr. Goosemahn
03-05-2010, 11:42 PM
Switch Hardesty for Gerhart, and those three rounds would be ideal for the Steelers. Awesome picks!

Bills2083
03-06-2010, 12:28 AM
Love the Bills draft!

Stranger
03-06-2010, 04:39 AM
26. Arizona* (10-6)- OLB Brandon Graham, Michigan

Good pick.

26. Arizona* (10-6)- CB Patrick Robinson, Florida State

Not a huge Robinson fan but CB is a need and he keeps with the profile of athletic but raw corners that we have drafted recently.

. Arizona* (10-6)- OT Marshall Newhouse, Texas Christian.

Don't know much about him but fills a need.

26. Arizona* (10-6)- TE Dennis Pitta, Brigham Young

I like it as I think we will be seeing more two TE sets this year. What is he like as a blocker since that is usually the first priority for a TE in Whisenhunt's scheme.

26. Arizona* (10-6)- ILB Darryl Sharpton, Miami-Fl.

Fills a need but I don't know much about him. He seems quite small, how well does he fit in a 3-4?

Good job on the mock. Will be interesting to see what happens after the Boldin trade.

Clarkpba
03-06-2010, 05:16 AM
You did a good job with the positions for the Bengals just a bad job on the 1st round Dez Bryant is a much better fit for the Bengals need at WR. They need a big tall guy at that spot not another average height WR. That and I have a hard time seeing alot of the players falling as far as you have them in your draft.

redbills
03-06-2010, 08:48 AM
Bills convert to 3-4 scheme so they need the mike for that. McClain has rich experience in 3-4 under Saban and has been a leader for them.

Poz and Kwiki is fine at ILB imo. Yea I love Lando but we really need a QB we don't really need a starting ILB.

YotoJets007
03-06-2010, 09:49 AM
You did a good job with the positions for the Bengals just a bad job on the 1st round Dez Bryant is a much better fit for the Bengals need at WR. They need a big tall guy at that spot not another average height WR. That and I have a hard time seeing alot of the players falling as far as you have them in your draft.

Bryant not participating at the combine is the factor for now.

coordinator0
03-06-2010, 09:53 AM
Really don't like the Ravens picks outside of Bryant and Roberts (yes, even with the addition of Boldin I still like multiple WR picks). The rest seem like reaches and just not good fits for the Ravens.

YotoJets007
03-06-2010, 09:54 AM
Poz and Kwiki is fine at ILB imo. Yea I love Lando but we really need a QB we don't really need a starting ILB.

Gailey will run the most boring old fashioned EP offense in the NFL so why should they pay a lot of money on QB. That is my reasoning. Taking McClain and dumping/trading Poz or Kwiki for qb help.

YotoJets007
03-06-2010, 10:01 AM
Really don't like the Ravens picks outside of Bryant and Roberts (yes, even with the addition of Boldin I still like multiple WR picks). The rest seem like reaches and just not good fits for the Ravens.

Hart may be a reach but Cook and Peters are not in my mock. Both had been unheard until NFL started to talk about draft full time.

Cook ran well enough to move up closer to an elite class of corner for this draft and CBs are off the board so rapid that Cook could end up being taken in 2nd round. He should be a 3rd round if CB movement is slow.

Peters is a darkhorse for DE in 3-4 or UT in 4-3. Since DT class becomes thinner by the time of Peters being taken off the board.

I had tired to have them taking TE but I kept passing on TE.

YotoJets007
03-06-2010, 10:06 AM
Good pick.



Not a huge Robinson fan but CB is a need and he keeps with the profile of athletic but raw corners that we have drafted recently.



Don't know much about him but fills a need.



I like it as I think we will be seeing more two TE sets this year. What is he like as a blocker since that is usually the first priority for a TE in Whisenhunt's scheme.



Fills a need but I don't know much about him. He seems quite small, how well does he fit in a 3-4?

Good job on the mock. Will be interesting to see what happens after the Boldin trade.


Newhouse was a late round steal but he showed his strength at the combine and OT depth is mediocre. He may be a reach to most draftniks but Cards need a OT in hurry.

Pitta is a wrong TE for Whisenhurst. My apologies. He is just a good vertical TE.

Sharpton is a donwhill LB despite his size. He has size but is just shorter.

TheMatriculator
03-06-2010, 10:08 AM
I should also aff Spikes with our 2nd 2nd rounder.Berry+Williams+Spikes = NASTY

Agreed. For me that would be a perfect Chiefs draft.

BUT...
with 15 teams playing the 3-4, there's no way Williams makes it to the 2nd round.

it seems unlikely the Chiefs (or any other team) would devote all three top draft choices to the defense (even though our defense needs that much help).

YotoJets007
03-06-2010, 10:09 AM
Thats all we need whatever DT we draft to do, hold down the fort, basically be a NT type player. Washington can play OLBB. and I hope Norwood can do better then Bowman on run support, being the difference between using a 1st and 3rd on the players. Don't get me wrong ,I love Norwood. But for the first with Williams there will be a horrible move and wouldnt help the rest of the draft at all.

That is how Williams got canned from Jaguars job. Jaguars prefer to have DT holding the fort.

Washington is not a downhill LB even though he has speed to do a blitz.

YotoJets007
03-06-2010, 10:11 AM
Agreed. For me that would be a perfect Chiefs draft.

BUT...
with 15 teams playing the 3-4, there's no way Williams makes it to the 2nd round.

it seems unlikely the Chiefs (or any other team) would devote all three top draft choices to the defense (even though our defense needs that much help).

There are many sizable DT for this draft so teams could afford to wait until 2nd or 3rd round.

prock
03-06-2010, 10:47 AM
I love the Vikes mock except Tebow. ******* hate him. What is your reasoning for Warren falling to the fifth?

YotoJets007
03-06-2010, 11:24 AM
I love the Vikes mock except Tebow. ******* hate him. What is your reasoning for Warren falling to the fifth?

Combine affecting. I mostly use combine numbers to influence the mock.

YotoJets007
03-06-2010, 11:32 AM
Shaun Smith wasn't pricey and he was cut last year during the season.

Iupati and Ducasse are already in the 330 neighborhood and Heckert/Holmgren are the ones making the picks and I think you're wrong about Mangini and underestimating how athletic both guys are.

Oh how about another Smith?

Iupati and Ducasse are definitely Holmgren's style but why on earth must he sabotage Mangini's style for his future. Holmgren needs to either follow Mangini's style or fire him. Mangini is kept so this mock belongs to Mangini.

I think I know Mangini that well. Mangini likes to have versatile OL but he is not crazy for finesse or power scheme. Power-lite blocking assignment that is.

redbills
03-06-2010, 12:13 PM
Gailey will run the most boring old fashioned EP offense in the NFL so why should they pay a lot of money on QB. That is my reasoning. Taking McClain and dumping/trading Poz or Kwiki for qb help.

why might we run it 80% of the time? We have no QB. And the last part makes no sense, draft Jimmy and you are set in one move, and you really think you can get a good QB in return for a LBer?

Sniper
03-06-2010, 12:47 PM
If the Eagles took Sergio Kindle ahead of Brandon Graham, I'd go on a baby-killing spree.

Iupati would be dandy in the second.

Gerhart in the third is also dandy.

Ed Dickson over Hall Davis, please.

Perrish Cox over Clay Harbor.

YotoJets007
03-08-2010, 10:11 AM
why might we run it 80% of the time? We have no QB. And the last part makes no sense, draft Jimmy and you are set in one move, and you really think you can get a good QB in return for a LBer?

Not straight up trade. Could package with him or dump him to make a room for better upgrade at different position.

Bills could land a veteran qb. the type of offense Gailey has run does not require all pro qb. Clausen in top 10 is pricey for being rarely counted on in Gailey system.

Poz51
03-08-2010, 10:30 AM
Because of many big moves made today, I stopped after 5th Round.
Round. This mock is locked between Peppers signing with Bears and Boldin traded to Ravens.

9. Buffalo (6-10)- LB Rolando McClain, Alabama.
9. Jimmy Clausen
9. Buffalo (6-10)- OT Trent Williams, Oklahoma.
8. Buffalo (6-10)- NT Linval Joseph, East Carolina.
9. Buffalo (6-10)- WR Brandon LeFall, Louisiana State.
9. Buffalo (6-10)- OLB Koa Misi, Utah.


If this actually happended for Buffalo, I think I would Sh$t myself... In a good way if that is possible :D Although I agree with red that passing on Clausen isnt a good idea, if he is there at 9 I cant see how they pass him up in this situation... I actually like Joseph more than Thomas in the 3rd, but either works for me.

YotoJets007
03-08-2010, 10:55 AM
If this actually happended for Buffalo, I think I would Sh$t myself... In a good way if that is possible :D Although I agree with red that passing on Clausen isnt a good idea, if he is there at 9 I cant see how they pass him up in this situation... I actually like Joseph more than Thomas in the 3rd, but either works for me.

Wow, I am under attack. lol. I tried to picture them taking Clausen instead of McClain and I actually like it because I am not afraid of Clausen. wink.

marshallb
03-08-2010, 11:07 AM
Good work on the 5 rounds. As for the Vikings, I love the Mays pick, I hate Tebow and the pick, I'm fine with Starks, Deadrick would be ok, although he's more of a 3-4 DE than a NT, and Warren is great value there, although Reshad Jones has grreat value there as well, and I'd be tempted to take him even though we already took Mays.

roidrunner
03-08-2010, 02:04 PM
i dont think the packers are going to pass on getting a CB the need is just too great.

proshoota25
03-08-2010, 02:15 PM
haha wow, terrible patriots mock, worst ive seen yet. Kindle would be picked over hughes in a second. Graham is a huge reach at the top of round 2. Arthur Jones is the only pick i like.

RealityCheck
03-08-2010, 03:32 PM
Terrible Pats mock. Hughes will be there in the 2nd, and reaching for Graham and Mitchell is way off. Still, me loves Pat Angerer.

SINCE1978
03-08-2010, 03:41 PM
Suh then CB is pretty solid Detroit mock ... Cox to us in the 5th, wow! What did he do/not do to drop in your eyes? I see Perrish Cox ranked as a top 5 overall CB in this draft. Whatever, that would be cool. Cox/Washington/Ghee/Suh is really stocking up young talent on D.

Dwyer slipped into your 5th round too? You crazy ...

YotoJets007
03-08-2010, 05:22 PM
Terrible Pats mock. Hughes will be there in the 2nd, and reaching for Graham and Mitchell is way off. Still, me loves Pat Angerer.

Patriots will face a handful of heavy blitz and stunts featured by Bills, Dolphins and Jets so they need fast offense to protect Brady. Graham may not a reach because he ran 4.5 at 265 lbs. Mitchell indeed is a reach but he can beat Moss by week one easily.

I go with Hughes because he is quicker than Graham.

YotoJets007
03-08-2010, 05:24 PM
Suh then CB is pretty solid Detroit mock ... Cox to us in the 5th, wow! What did he do/not do to drop in your eyes? I see Perrish Cox ranked as a top 5 overall CB in this draft. Whatever, that would be cool. Cox/Washington/Ghee/Suh is really stocking up young talent on D.

Dwyer slipped into your 5th round too? You crazy ...


Cox looked bad on tape and combine performance did not help him overcome his inconsistency. Dwyer lacks of COD and lateral speed to be a first 2 round talent. Right now, he is an ideal for goalline situation RB.

twizbuck
03-08-2010, 07:09 PM
Change Chad Jones to Nate Allen and you have a wonderful Bengals draft.