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The Unseen
03-05-2010, 07:11 PM
That's right, bitches. You get to draft all the badass mofos in history who paved the way...with their minds.

Philosophers, scientists, mathematicians, any sort of polymath...intellectuals in general. I will set the amount of draft picks, any restrictions on necessary picks, etc once I have enough people so we can discuss what makes sense. After the draft, there will be a poll to determine the best team. You will want to be able to argue for your intellectual...yes I will allow Wikipedia and other sourcing, but be able to spice up how awesome they were.

There are six rounds, and four required picks: intellectuals in the Arts, two for Knowledge (philosophy, mathematics, science, and religion) and one for Leadership (specifically Politics and Military) , along with two wildcards. There is overlap in these areas with some polymaths, but I will be the arbiter (with some discussion of course) on who fits what catergory.

Round 1

1. wicket - Leonardo da Vinci
2. tjsunstein - Aristotle
3. broth - Albert Einstein
4. CJ - General Sun Tzu
5. me - Gottfried Leibniz
6. diab - Sir Issac Newton
7. vikes - Galileo Galilei
8. BF - Jesus Christ

Round 2

1. BF - Alexander the Great
2. vikes - Michelangelo
3. diab - Johann Sebastian Bach
4. me - Plato
5. CJ - Socrates
6. broth - William Shakespeare
7. tjsunstein - Confucius
8. wicket - Archimedes

Round 3

1. wicket - Cicero
2. tjsunstein - Louis Pasteur
3. broth - Thomas Edison
4. CJ - Nicolas Copernicus
5. me - RenéDescartes
6. diab - Karl Marx
7. vikes - George Washington
8. BF - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

Round 4

1. BF - Mohandas Gandhi
2. vikes - Benjamin Franklin
3. diab - Napoleon Bonaparte
4. me - Genghis Khan
5. CJ - Niccolò Machiavelli
6. broth - Pablo Picasso
7. tjsunstein - Thomas Jefferson
8. wicket - John Forbes Nash

Round 5

1. wicket - Gary Kasparov
2. tjsunstein - Buddha
3. broth - Hannibal
4. CJ - Nikola Tesla
5. me - George Washington Carver
6. diab - Muhammad the Prophet
7. vikes - St. Paul
8. BF - Voltaire

Round 6

1. BF - Augustus Caesar
2. vikes - Vince Lombardi
3. diab - Friedrich Nietzsche
4. me - James Clerk Maxwell
5. CJ - Raphael
6. broth - Linus Pauling
7. tjsunstein - Carl Friedrich Gauss
8. wicket - Guglielmo Marconi

Round 7

1. wicket - Stephen Hawkins
2. tjsunstein - Samuel Johnson
3. broth - Charles Darwin
4. CJ - Pythagoras
5. me - Leonhard Euler
6. diab - Dmitri Mendeleev
7. vikes - Edgar Allen Poe
8. BF - Sigmund Freud

Round 8

1. BF - Michel Foucault
2. vikes - John Locke
3. diab - Winston Churchill
4. me - Adam Smith
5. CJ - Henry David Thoreaue
6. broth - Niels Bohr
7. tjsunstein - Daniel Tammet
8. wicket - Scott Wright

CJSchneider
03-05-2010, 07:20 PM
How many posters? How many rounds?

The Unseen
03-05-2010, 07:21 PM
We'll call it like we see it for rounds. Umm, let's cap at eight posters for now.

CJSchneider
03-05-2010, 07:21 PM
I'll play; it sounds like fun.

Rob S
03-05-2010, 07:38 PM
http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/theremoteisland/2009/03/sbaker_season1_004.jpg

CJSchneider
03-05-2010, 07:39 PM
There goes Brodeur's first pick.

Brothgar
03-05-2010, 08:21 PM
so in and yoda will be my first pick

The Unseen
03-05-2010, 08:45 PM
yea, no fake intellectuals.

tjsunstein
03-06-2010, 12:00 AM
I'll get in on this.

TACKLE
03-06-2010, 12:40 AM
Somebody better take Charlie Kaufman. That man is a genius.

The Unseen
03-08-2010, 12:31 AM
BUMP.

c'mon gaiz

bearsfan_51
03-13-2010, 04:48 PM
I draft myself.

vikes_28
03-13-2010, 05:59 PM
I'm inzzzzzzzz

diabsoule
03-14-2010, 11:54 PM
I can do this.

CJSchneider
03-15-2010, 01:17 PM
I'm in - I have the time now that it's Spring Break.

bearsfan_51
03-15-2010, 01:29 PM
That should make 8 posters.

wicket
03-15-2010, 05:55 PM
if you still need someone id like to do this

The Unseen
03-15-2010, 06:03 PM
yay!

I think we have seven to nine whether you could TACKLE or not and Rob S or not. I'll PM them to see if they wanted to do it.
wicket, you can join. The cap was arbitrary - ten posters would still be fine.

I think we'll do six rounds for now. That sound good? I'll get a random order up once I confirm who we have.

bearsfan_51
03-15-2010, 06:07 PM
I think it would make sense if we had categories, for example:

-The Arts, Science, Philosophy, Politics, etc. Or we could just draft the six smartest people we can think of, the former would challenge more diverse thinking, however.

tjsunstein
03-15-2010, 06:46 PM
Can I pick bf?

wicket
03-15-2010, 07:05 PM
if we call it the intellectual draft the categories should be kept within parts of science prolly if you want to do categories, otherwise just call it the genius draft or something

bearsfan_51
03-15-2010, 07:18 PM
??????

Only intelligent people do science?

diabsoule
03-15-2010, 07:36 PM
My first pick - Dr. Doogie Howser

The Unseen
03-15-2010, 09:12 PM
I think it would make sense if we had categories, for example:

-The Arts, Science, Philosophy, Politics, etc. Or we could just draft the six smartest people we can think of, the former would challenge more diverse thinking, however.

Yeah, I was thinking about this but forgot, thanks. I say we pick one for the Arts, one for Science, one for Philosophy, and one for Politics/Military, and two wild cards. We could do a separate one for mathematics, but as that is slim pickings I say mathematics is an alternate possibility for Science or Philosophy, especially since some of the big early mathematicians were also philosophers. Also, historians and social scientists could also work into this mould. So finally:

The Arts
Science/Mathematics/Social Sciences
Philosophy/Mathematics/Social Sciences
Politics/Military
Wild Card
Wild Card

TACKLE
03-15-2010, 11:19 PM
yay!

I think we have seven to nine whether you could TACKLE or not and Rob S or not. I'll PM them to see if they wanted to do it.
wicket, you can join. The cap was arbitrary - ten posters would still be fine.

I think we'll do six rounds for now. That sound good? I'll get a random order up once I confirm who we have.

Sorry Unseen. I'm not in.

vikes_28
03-15-2010, 11:21 PM
PM me when it's time to start this. Cause I'll probably forget if I'm not reminded.

tjsunstein
03-15-2010, 11:23 PM
PM me when it's time to start this. Cause I'll probably forget if I'm not reminded.

Seconded on this.

The Unseen
03-15-2010, 11:23 PM
No problem.

Anyways, I think we'll get started Tuesday night with

bearsfan51
me
CJSchneider
diabsoule
wicket
vikes
broth
tjsunstein

EDIT: this is not a random order yet

The Unseen
03-15-2010, 11:31 PM
Okay, order:

1. wicket
2. tjsunstein
3. broth
4. CJ
5. me
6. diab
7. vikes
8. BF

Then in reverse for rounds 2, 4, and 6:

1. BF
2. vikes
3. diab
4. me
5. CJ
6. broth
7. tjsunstein
8. wicket

bearsfan_51
03-16-2010, 12:43 PM
Lets just start when people are ready. I don't have internet at my apartment right now so I can only be online when I'm in my office.

vikes_28
03-16-2010, 12:50 PM
So I guess PM wicket, and we'll get this thing started.

Chucky
03-16-2010, 12:52 PM
So I guess PM wicket, and we'll get this thing started.

Don't worry Vikes...no one else is going to take JC or coppercab

vikes_28
03-16-2010, 01:40 PM
Don't worry Vikes...no one else is going to take JC or coppercab

Which is funny, cause I was going to take JC with my first pick. Is that ok with you?

The Unseen
03-16-2010, 03:16 PM
I PM'ed wicket, and told him he can pick whenever he wanted. I'll also keep time restrictions lax - give about a day to make a pick.

oh and the Jf'inC mention makes me realize that religious figures could also fit into the philosophy/math/science slots. I know that's alot, but I figure it makes schematic sense: Art, Knowledge, Knowledge, and Leadership basically.

wicket
03-16-2010, 05:09 PM
sorry I kept you waiting but I wasnt online all day, witht he first pick Ill pick (obviously) Leonardo da Vinci, the ultimate **** universalis

bearsfan_51
03-16-2010, 05:12 PM
Give us a write up, lazy ass.

The Unseen
03-16-2010, 07:36 PM
bearsfan: I should've made this clearer earlier, but write-ups can be made in a poll thread we will have later

tjsunstein
03-16-2010, 07:50 PM
I shall select Aristotle.

The Unseen
03-16-2010, 07:56 PM
fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I thought he might slip through the cracks to a later round...guess not

Brothgar
03-16-2010, 08:17 PM
http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/050418_Einstein/050405_einstein_tongue.widec.jpg

tjsunstein
03-16-2010, 09:16 PM
Reachhh

haha, jk.

CJSchneider
03-16-2010, 09:33 PM
http://api.ning.com/files/TSB0-vn3IGjcP-ahBpiFXvxeMKDSZD-uS8RwKvhECpWA2E-KLFROkCevKLeiZIBy9gX10LGnHJHtrsW1ACURu3vEzmRHoZve/sun_tzu_general.jpg

General Sun Tzu

The Unseen
03-16-2010, 10:04 PM
http://www.matheplanet.com/matheplanet/nuke/html/uploads/6/7723_Gottfried_Leibniz.jpg

Gottfried Leibniz

diabsoule
03-16-2010, 10:07 PM
Sir Isaac Newton

https://libwebspace.library.cmu.edu:4430/posner/sp09/subcontents/images/GodfreyKneller-IsaacNewton-1689.jpg

The Unseen
03-16-2010, 10:08 PM
I invented Calculus first!

diabsoule
03-16-2010, 10:12 PM
I invented Calculus first!

We agreed to share that honor, sir.

vikes_28
03-16-2010, 11:20 PM
As promised, my first selection will be Jesus Christ


http://howgoodisthat.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/jesus-thumps-up1.jpg

Edit:

Changing this pick. I feel as if I try and argue my case, I could be pushing the boundaries. My new pick is:

Galileo

http://academic.evergreen.edu/curricular/scirev/Galileo01.jpg

The Unseen
03-16-2010, 11:41 PM
I forgot about inventors. They can go in either the Art slot or the Knowledge slot[s]. Good deal?

vikes_28
03-17-2010, 09:53 PM
Can I skip BF?

The Unseen
03-17-2010, 09:59 PM
no, I'll wait until tomorrow. He said he doesn't get on his computer as often.

bearsfan_51
03-18-2010, 02:29 PM
Thanks for waiting. I don't have internet at my house and it was St. Patrick's Day after all. Gimme just a sec.

bearsfan_51
03-18-2010, 02:32 PM
Jesus of Nazarath:

http://theocus.com/Jesus_Christ.jpg

bearsfan_51
03-18-2010, 02:35 PM
Alexander the Great:

http://fjordlord.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/alexander_the_great_biography.jpg

Brothgar
03-18-2010, 02:36 PM
Jesus Christ:

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/2007/05/07/jesus_christbook.jpg

Alexander the Great:

http://scribalterror.blogs.com/scribal_terror/images/2008/06/19/pompeii_art_alexander_great.jpg




how can you be a HOFer and fail this bad? (picture links) :p

vikes_28
03-18-2010, 02:42 PM
Thanks for the message broth...lol

I pick Michelangelo, artist, who was known for painting the Sistine Chapel!

diabsoule
03-18-2010, 03:47 PM
Johann Sebastian Bach

http://www.jsbach.net/bass/elements/bach-hausmann.jpg

The Unseen
03-19-2010, 11:30 AM
Plato

http://www.mrdowling.com/images/701plato.jpg

Gay Ork Wang
03-19-2010, 11:42 AM
Who is the REAL Plato? THINK ABOUT IT!

CJSchneider
03-19-2010, 11:45 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Socrates_Louvre.jpg/450px-Socrates_Louvre.jpg

Socrates

Brothgar
03-19-2010, 02:06 PM
http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/s/shakespeare/william/shakespeare.jpg

William Shakespere

The Unseen
03-19-2010, 03:04 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Socrates_Louvre.jpg/450px-Socrates_Louvre.jpg

Socrates

I made you up!

CJSchneider
03-19-2010, 03:39 PM
I made you up!

Sadly, you did such a good job, other contemporarys wrote about me as well which leads to my possible existance after all.

tjsunstein
03-19-2010, 06:12 PM
Confucius

http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/history/MUHLBERGER/uploaded_images/confucius-757900.jpg

Gay Ork Wang
03-19-2010, 06:25 PM
Confucius

http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/history/MUHLBERGER/uploaded_images/confucius-757900.jpg
Winner Winner!

wicket
03-20-2010, 05:26 AM
I pick Archimedes and Cicero,

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/a/archimedes/portrait.jpg
http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/cicero/portrait.jpg
yeah im going old school baby, another advantage is that I can still flipflop catergories with all of my choices :)

BandwagonPunditry
03-20-2010, 09:52 AM
Ah, gutted I didn't see this earlier.

tjsunstein
03-21-2010, 10:23 AM
Louis Pasteur

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/p/pasteur/louis/portrait.jpg

Brothgar
03-22-2010, 12:05 AM
http://www.ftl.pinecrest.edu/ms/WebQuests/Stuart/Thomas%20Edison.jpg

Thomas Edison

CJSchneider
03-22-2010, 05:27 AM
Nicolaus Copernicus

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Nikolaus_Kopernikus.jpg

Brothgar
03-22-2010, 11:40 AM
Can we trade up?

Eaglez.Fan
03-22-2010, 04:11 PM
http://www.ftl.pinecrest.edu/ms/WebQuests/Stuart/Thomas%20Edison.jpg

Thomas Edison

ugg... There was a much better inventor/scientist/engineer available.

The Unseen
03-22-2010, 06:45 PM
René Descartes

http://www.biografiasyvidas.com/biografia/d/fotos/descartes.jpg

(he's a wildcard if you're keeping track...I'll get to Art and Leadership later)

I can't see how you could trade up broth. There's no real means to do so, and there's not much incentive since there aren't any clear-cut boards that we have that match up like NFL team boards do. But I tell you what - if you can make an offer that someone would accept, go right ahead. Just don't assume it could work.

CJSchneider
03-23-2010, 08:51 PM
I would think we could skip Diab by now.

The Unseen
03-23-2010, 08:57 PM
I'll give him until tomorrow morning.

diabsoule
03-24-2010, 06:19 PM
Sorry, I've been without my computer for two days because it's been in the shop.

here's my pick:

Karl Marx

http://www.donalforeman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Marx.jpg

vikes_28
03-25-2010, 12:36 AM
http://peasantprince.com/images/george_washington.jpg

George Washington.

bearsfan_51
03-25-2010, 01:05 AM
Washington was not a terribly educated man, a mediocre general, and his best attribute as a politician was that he was tall and everybody liked him.


Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

http://www.capricorn-astrology-software.com/example_reports/mozart/wolfgang-amadeus-mozart.jpg

bearsfan_51
03-25-2010, 01:06 AM
Mohandas Gandhi

http://mwenyemacho.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/gandhi-spinning-wheel.jpg

Cicero
03-25-2010, 01:28 AM
I pick Archimedes and Cicero,

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/a/archimedes/portrait.jpg
http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/cicero/portrait.jpg
yeah im going old school baby, another advantage is that I can still flipflop catergories with all of my choices :)

Best pick of the draft right there.

Gay Ork Wang
03-25-2010, 07:26 AM
Washington was not a terribly educated man, a mediocre general, and his best attribute as a politician was that he was tall and everybody liked him.

Gingers are intimidated by tall men

vikes_28
03-25-2010, 03:51 PM
Gingers are intimidated by tall men

But I'm tall, so what difference does that make? Anyways, pick is:

Benjamin Franklin

http://hilariousduck.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/ben_franklin.jpg

Brothgar
03-25-2010, 03:56 PM
But I'm tall, so what difference does that make? Anyways, pick is:

Benjamin Franklin

http://hilariousduck.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/ben_franklin.jpg
http://shanoogie.com/l/thread-pics/FFFFFUUUUU.jpg

diabsoule
03-25-2010, 10:01 PM
Napoleon Bonaparte

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/4/41/NapoleonBike.jpg

The Unseen
03-25-2010, 10:28 PM
Genghis Khan

http://www.logoi.com/notes/img/genghis-khan.jpg

CJSchneider
03-26-2010, 05:27 AM
Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Portrait_of_Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli_by_Santi_di_T ito.jpg

Brothgar
03-26-2010, 07:49 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Pablo_picasso_1.jpg

Pablo Picasso

tjsunstein
03-26-2010, 07:50 PM
Thomas Jefferson

wicket
03-26-2010, 08:23 PM
To add some diversity:
John Forbes Nash

and my first wildcard:
Gary Kasparov

tjsunstein
03-28-2010, 07:43 PM
I'll take Buddha

Brothgar
03-29-2010, 11:09 AM
Hannibal Barca of Carthage

http://www.tunisiaonlinenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/hannibalbarca-full.jpg

CashmoneyDrew
03-29-2010, 12:33 PM
Who's gonna pick Kanye West?

CJSchneider
03-29-2010, 05:14 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/N.Tesla.JPG

Nikola Tesla

The Unseen
03-30-2010, 01:03 AM
George Washington Carver

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/George_Washington_Carver.jpg

diabsoule
03-30-2010, 07:46 AM
Muhammad the Prophet
http://www.hf.uib.no/religion/popularikonografi/bilder/01b.jpg

vikes_28
03-30-2010, 02:19 PM
St. Paul (not Mao), Apostle

http://www.catholicmedia.net/halo/pic/paul1.jpg

bearsfan_51
03-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Voltaire

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Voltaire.jpg/531px-Voltaire.jpg

CJSchneider
03-30-2010, 03:07 PM
Already been picked.

bearsfan_51
03-30-2010, 03:08 PM
Augustus Caesar
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Statue-Augustus.jpg/400px-Statue-Augustus.jpg

The Unseen
03-30-2010, 03:08 PM
again, already been picked.

Eaglez.Fan
03-30-2010, 03:23 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/N.Tesla.JPG

Nikola Tesla

winner, winner!

CJSchneider
03-30-2010, 03:27 PM
Love the hair!!!

CJSchneider
04-01-2010, 09:47 AM
Who's up? I want to finish this!

vikes_28
04-01-2010, 11:55 AM
Help! Chucky is molesting children! :eek:

CJSchneider
04-01-2010, 12:48 PM
Historically and Intellectually, I think Paul Brown may have been a better pick.

vikes_28
04-01-2010, 02:50 PM
Lombardi had so many good speeches though. That's my reasoning behind him.

Chucky
04-01-2010, 10:00 PM
OH MY GAWDDDD!!!!


I can not believe that Vikes actually picked Vince Lombardi in an intellectual draft including....everyone from ******* all time. This is ******* ridiculous. I mean I know this is a football forum but holy ******* ****.

diabsoule
04-02-2010, 02:41 AM
http://slowmuse.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/nietzsche.jpg

Frederick Nietzsche

The Unseen
04-02-2010, 10:24 AM
James Clerk Maxwell

http://hibp.ecse.rpi.edu/%7Econnor/education/Fields/F09/images/Maxwell.jpg

JFLO
04-02-2010, 11:00 AM
There is one guy that hasn't been taken yet that is pretty surprising. 1800s era writer...don't wanna give it away too much...

CJSchneider
04-02-2010, 11:22 AM
Raffaello Sanzio da Urbino - Rapheal

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Sanzio_00.jpg

CJSchneider
04-02-2010, 11:25 AM
There is one guy that hasn't been taken yet that is pretty surprising. 1800s era writer...don't wanna give it away too much...

He's not the only one. I have 4 on my mind right now that would make good additions to any team. I may even post a Best of the Undrafted team when we are done.

diabsoule
04-02-2010, 12:29 PM
He's not the only one. I have 4 on my mind right now that would make good additions to any team. I may even post a Best of the Undrafted team when we are done.

Have you drafted all of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or just most of them?

CJSchneider
04-02-2010, 01:03 PM
Have you drafted all of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or just most of them?

LOL, I'll trade the two I have for Leonardo and make one last non-Italian, cartoon's namesake pick.

Brothgar
04-02-2010, 01:37 PM
http://www.encognitive.com/images/linus-pauling.jpg

Linus Pauling

Brothgar
04-02-2010, 05:37 PM
winner, winner!

Tesla doesn't hold a candle to Edison which is what he would be doing without it!

bearsfan_51
04-02-2010, 06:30 PM
Lombardi had so many good speeches though. That's my reasoning behind him.
http://www.writespirit.net/inspirational_talks/political/martin_luther_king_talks/martin-luther-king2.jpg

*Shakes head*

vikes_28
04-02-2010, 08:24 PM
****. I forgot about someone. :/

vikes_28
04-02-2010, 08:25 PM
OH MY GAWDDDD!!!!


I can not believe that Vikes actually picked Vince Lombardi in an intellectual draft including....everyone from ******* all time. This is ******* ridiculous. I mean I know this is a football forum but holy ******* ****.

Ok.

10....)(

CJSchneider
04-02-2010, 08:32 PM
Tesla doesn't hold a candle to Edison which is what he would be doing without it!

Tesla took Edison's work to the next level. No knock to Edison, but to say he dosen't hold a candle is a poor statement.

Brothgar
04-02-2010, 08:41 PM
Tesla took Edison's work to the next level. No knock to Edison, but to say he dosen't hold a candle is a poor statement.

Granted but really EF said there was "Much better" inverters than Edison and I knew he was talking Tesla. I'm surprised he didn't call another pick of mine over rated. that I'll disclose later.

The Unseen
04-03-2010, 12:39 AM
Would anyone mind extending this ***** two rounds? Two more wild-cards?

wicket
04-03-2010, 06:01 AM
Would anyone mind extending this ***** two rounds? Two more wild-cards?

im in, still waiting to make my last picks though

CJSchneider
04-03-2010, 08:20 AM
Would anyone mind extending this ***** two rounds? Two more wild-cards?

Sure. I'm down.

vikes_28
04-03-2010, 10:30 AM
def. There is a guy I forgot about that I would still like to pick.

CJSchneider
04-03-2010, 11:20 AM
def. There is a guy I forgot about that I would still like to pick.

You mean to tell me that you forgot another great speech writer that all of us have managed to pass on thus far ;)

Chucky
04-03-2010, 11:47 AM
def. There is a guy I forgot about that I would still like to pick.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_i8YmC41u0qE/RfxrZGhkJ4I/AAAAAAAAAgg/0e8MdyMVKaU/s320/Red.jpg

Don't worry no one else is going to take Red.



Oh...and I am sure you can still take Judas as well

Eaglez.Fan
04-03-2010, 12:26 PM
Granted but really EF said there was "Much better" inverters than Edison and I knew he was talking Tesla. I'm surprised he didn't call another pick of mine over rated. that I'll disclose later.

Well, in my opinion, Tesla was a much better inventor and scientist than Edison. Edison had way more funding and help. Not to mention that many of Edison's patents were invented by someone else, and it is almost common knowledge that Edison didn't invent the FIRST lightbulb. The world just wasn't ready for Tesla when he came up with the ideas he did. Some of Tesla's experiments that he conducted are still deemed "impossible" by many phsyics textbooks today, which is why the science world finds it hard to accept him.

vikes_28
04-04-2010, 12:24 AM
You mean to tell me that you forgot another great speech writer that all of us have managed to pass on thus far ;)

Meh. It was the last pick in the draft. And now it's looking like it's not even going to finish. After all, it's a silly draft on teh internetz.

tjsunstein
04-04-2010, 11:02 AM
Carl Friedrich Gauss

Steal?

wicket
04-04-2010, 03:24 PM
Two kinda easy picks:
Guglielmo Marconi
Stephen Hawkins

Brothgar
04-04-2010, 04:12 PM
Two kinda easy picks:
Guglielmo Marconi
Stephen Hawkins

I'm pretty sure the draft is over so you have to choose one of those.

wicket
04-04-2010, 04:15 PM
I'm pretty sure the draft is over so you have to choose one of those.

I thought we decided to do two more rounds

CJSchneider
04-04-2010, 05:02 PM
Yeah, so did I.

Brothgar
04-04-2010, 05:05 PM
oh yeah my bad.

JFLO
04-04-2010, 05:36 PM
I'm not seeing too much Transcendentalism love around these parts.

What gives?

The Unseen
04-04-2010, 08:11 PM
Literature doesn't seem to be a high priority. There's a bigger emphasis on polymaths and science guys.

Brothgar
04-05-2010, 07:36 PM
So... whats going on with this?

tjsunstein
04-05-2010, 07:43 PM
It's dead.

Brothgar
04-05-2010, 07:44 PM
It's dead.

I think it is your pick.

The Unseen
04-06-2010, 12:40 AM
It's dead.

because you haven't picked.

tjsunstein
04-06-2010, 09:25 AM
I had no idea since the first page hadn't been updated since I picked Gauss. Didn't think we were going more than 6 rounds either. Nor did anyone PM me to pick.

Nikola Tesla

CJSchneider
04-06-2010, 09:39 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/N.Tesla.JPG

Nikola Tesla

I had no idea since the first page hadn't been updated since I picked Gauss. Didn't think we were going more than 6 rounds either. Nor did anyone PM me to pick.

Nikola Tesla

Pick again.

The Unseen
04-06-2010, 10:01 AM
I had no idea since the first page hadn't been updated since I picked Gauss. Didn't think we were going more than 6 rounds either. Nor did anyone PM me to pick.

Nikola Tesla

Sorry, that's my fault. We're doing two more wildcard picks.

But yeah, Tesla's been taken.

tjsunstein
04-06-2010, 12:00 PM
Samuel Johnson

Brothgar
04-06-2010, 02:31 PM
http://ambassadors.net/images/Charles_Darwin_01.jpg

Charles Darwin

CJSchneider
04-06-2010, 02:43 PM
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Portraits/Art/Pythagoras.jpg

Pythagoras

Chucky
04-06-2010, 04:33 PM
How the **** did Darwin last this long?

Steal imo.

But of course

Winning the first super bowl> Evolution

The Unseen
04-07-2010, 03:05 PM
Leonhard Euler

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Leonhard_Euler_2.jpg

diabsoule
04-07-2010, 07:28 PM
Dmitri Mendeleev

http://arjunpuri.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/6-dmitri-mendeleev.jpg

vikes_28
04-07-2010, 10:19 PM
Sorry for holding this up guys.

I select:

Edgar Allen Poe

For his psychotic works of poetry and literature all while under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

Chucky
04-07-2010, 10:25 PM
Sorry for holding this up guys.

I select:

Chucky

You make me blush.

I mean had you picked Toon or some other HOF posters it could have been funny, but obviously you fail there as well

vikes_28
04-07-2010, 10:28 PM
You make me blush.

I mean had you picked Toon or some other HOF posters it could have been funny, but obviously you fail there as well

Well, i figured since you think you're above everybody else, i thought I'd pick you. CHUCKY = JESUS

Chucky
04-07-2010, 10:30 PM
Well, i figured since you think you're above everybody else, i thought I'd pick you. CHUCKY = JESUS

I don't think I am above everybody else just people who pick football coaches in an intellectuals draft. Also, please don't insult me by comparing me to a ******* carpenter.

The Unseen
04-08-2010, 12:35 AM
calm down ladies

A Perfect Score
04-08-2010, 12:51 AM
Sorry for holding this up guys.

I select:

Edgar Allen Poe

For his psychotic works of poetry and literature all while under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

Of all the drug influenced and alcoholic writers in history, you take POE? Jesus.

The lack of writers drafted is shocking to me. There are about 5 I can think of who, IMO, should of been drafted already.

diabsoule
04-08-2010, 01:29 AM
Of all the drug influenced and alcoholic writers in history, you take POE? Jesus.

The lack of writers drafted is shocking to me. There are about 5 I can think of who, IMO, should of been drafted already.

I already took my writer who also greatly influenced politics.

Karl Marx - The Communist Manifesto

The Unseen
04-08-2010, 01:46 AM
Well diab, most intellectuals count as writers in that sense. I think the idea in "writer" is works of fiction.

vikes_28
04-08-2010, 11:38 AM
calm down ladies

The funny thing is, is I don't understand why Chucky is posting in here. He's not involved in this at all.

bearsfan_51
04-08-2010, 12:07 PM
Ziggy Freud

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Sigmund_Freud_LIFE.jpg

bearsfan_51
04-08-2010, 12:09 PM
Michel Foucault

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Foucault5.jpg

diabsoule
04-08-2010, 01:13 PM
I was kinda hoping Freud would fall to me.

CJSchneider
04-08-2010, 01:32 PM
Are you guys ready? This is where Vikes drafts Walt Disney because no one had drawn a mouse as the Captain of a steamboat before.

vikes_28
04-08-2010, 01:53 PM
Are you guys ready? This is where Vikes drafts Walt Disney because no one had drawn a mouse as the Captain of a steamboat before.

Very much so!

And with that, I draft....

John Locke

CJSchneider
04-08-2010, 02:00 PM
Good pick. As an educator I have become very well versed in his "Tabula Rasa" theory.

vikes_28
04-08-2010, 02:07 PM
Good pick. As an educator I have become very well versed in his "Tabula Rasa" theory.

At this point Locke is a steal

diabsoule
04-08-2010, 02:12 PM
Winston Churchill

http://image.blog.bitcomet.com/postpic/20091025/12488596_mjeqdp091025133725.jpg

CJSchneider
04-08-2010, 02:12 PM
I don't know about all that, but it is a good pick.

The Unseen
04-09-2010, 12:22 AM
Adam Smith

http://blog.braintraffic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/adam-smith.jpg

CJSchneider
04-09-2010, 05:50 AM
Henry David Thoreau

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Henry_David_Thoreau.jpg/486px-Henry_David_Thoreau.jpg

Brothgar
04-09-2010, 01:49 PM
http://isases.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/niels_bohr_albert_einstein_by_ehrenfest1.jpg

Very difficult decision but I'm going with

Neils Bohr

tjsunstein
04-09-2010, 01:55 PM
Daniel Tammet

wicket
04-09-2010, 02:30 PM
with the last pick I select scott wright

tjsunstein
04-09-2010, 02:32 PM
I knew that was coming.

Brothgar
04-09-2010, 03:17 PM
with the last pick I select scott wright

http://www.liquidmatrix.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/facepalm.jpg

Brothgar
04-09-2010, 03:42 PM
So what now?

Brothgar
04-09-2010, 03:48 PM
Broth's final roster. Arguments to be filled in over time.

3. broth - Albert Einstein

The following is an excerpt from Wiki:
Albert Einstein was a German-born Swiss-American theoretical physicist, philosopher and author who is widely regarded as one of the most influential and best known scientists and intellectuals of all time. He is often regarded as the father of modern physics. He received the 1921 Nobel Prize in Physics "for his services to Theoretical Physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect."

His many contributions to physics include the special and general theories of relativity, the founding of relativistic cosmology, the first post-Newtonian expansion, explaining the perihelion advance of Mercury, prediction of the deflection of light by gravity and gravitational lensing, the first fluctuation dissipation theorem which explained the Brownian movement of molecules, the photon theory and wave-particle duality, the quantum theory of atomic motion in solids, the zero-point energy concept, the semiclassical version of the Schrödinger equation, and the quantum theory of a monatomic gas which predicted Bose–Einstein condensation.

Einstein published more than 300 scientific and over 150 non-scientific works. Einstein additionally wrote and commentated prolifically on numerous philosophical and political issues.

*end of excerpt

6. broth - William Shakespeare



3. broth - Thomas Edison


6. broth - Pablo Picasso

3. broth - Hannibal

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6. broth - Linus Pauling

The following is an article from nobelprize.org
Linus Pauling (February 28, 1901- )*, the only person who has won two undivided Nobel Prizes,1 was born in Portland, Oregon, the son of a pharmacist, Henry H.W. Pauling, and Lucy (Darling) Pauling. He attended Washington High School in Portland but because of a technicality did not receive his diploma until 1962, long after he had received his bachelor's degree from Oregon State College in 1922, his doctorate from the California Institute of Technology in 1925, and honorary degrees from universities in seven countries.

With the help of a National Research Council fellowship in 1925-1926 and a Guggenheim Foundation fellowship in 1926-1927, he studied with three physicists: Arnold Sommerfeld in Munich, Erwin Schrodinger in Zurich, and Niels Bohr in Copenhagen. From 1927 until 1964, he was a member of the professorial staff of California Institute of Technology, earning a reputation as a gifted teacher - articulate, enthusiastic, with a talent for simplification and a willingness to engage in controversy. For twenty-two of those thirty-seven years, he was chairman of the Division of Chemistry and Chemical Engineering, as well as director of the Gates and Crellin Laboratories of Chemistry.

From 1963 to 1967, Pauling was attached to the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions at Santa Barbara, California, as a research professor; from 1967 to 1969, he was a professor of chemistry at the University of California at San Diego; since 1969 he has been on the professorial staff of Stanford University.

From his graduate days until the mid-thirties, Pauling was interested primarily in physical chemistry, especially in molecular spatial configurations and their relevance to molecular behavior. In 1939 he published the results of over ten years of research in The Nature of the Chemical Bond and the Structure of Molecules and Crystals. When he won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry for 1954, he was cited "for his research into the nature of the chemical bond and its application to the elucidation of the structure of complex substances."

Pauling's interest in the "behavior" of molecules led him from physical chemistry to biological chemistry, from an absorption in the architecture of molecules to their functioning, especially in the human body. He began with proteins and their main constituents, the amino acids, which are called the "building blocks of life." He studied the abnormal in structure as well as the normal, even creating abnormalities in order to observe effects. From his creation of synthetic antibodies formed by altering molecules of globulin in the blood, came the development of a substitute for blood plasma.

In 1950 he constructed the first satisfactory model of a protein molecule, a discovery which has implications for the understanding of the living cell. He has studied and published papers on the effects of certain blood cell abnormalities, the relationship between molecular abnormality and heredity, the possible chemical basis of mental retardation, the functioning of anesthetics. Looking to the future, he said in the last edition of The Nature of the Chemical Bond, "We may ask what the next step in the search for an understanding of the nature of life will be. I think that it will be the elucidation of the nature of the electromagnetic phenomena involved in mental activity in relation to the molecular structure of brain tissue. I believe that thinking, both conscious and unconscious, and short-term memory involve electromagnetic phenomena in the brain, interacting with the molecular (material) patterns of long-term memory, obtained from inheritance or experience."

Pauling's latest chemical-medical-nutritional study has been published in a 1970 book entitled Vitamin C and the Common Cold, in which he maintains that the common cold can be controlled almost entirely in the United States and some other countries within a few years, through improvement of the nutrition of the people by an adequate intake of ascorbic acid [vitamin C].2

During World War II, Pauling participated in scientific enterprises deemed vital to the protection of the country. Early in the war he was a consultant to the explosives division of the National Defense Research Commission and from 1945 to 1946 a member of the Research Board for National Security. For his contributions, which included work on rocket propellants, on an oxygen deficiency indicator for pressurized space, such as that in submarines and aircraft, and on a substitute for human serum in medical treatment, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Merit in 1948.

The use of the atomic bomb near the end of the war turned Pauling in a new direction. As one who had long worked on the structure of molecules, both normal and abnormal, on their behavior in the human body, and on their transmission through heredity, he took an immediate and intense interest in the potentially malignant effects of nuclear fallout on human molecular structures, as well as in the forces of blast and fire released by an exploding bomb. From the late forties on, Pauling, as a member of Einstein's Emergency Committee of Atomic Scientists, which was active from 1946 to 1950, as a supporter of many peace organizations, and as an individual, has waged a constant campaign against war and its now nuclear nature. He calculated estimates on the probable frequency of congenital deformity in future generations resulting from carbon 14 and radioactive fission products released by nuclear testing, and publicized them; protested the production of the hydrogen bomb; advocated the prevention of the spread of nuclear weapons; promoted the banning of tests of nuclear weapons as a first step toward multilateral disarmament.3

In the early fifties and again in the early sixties, he encountered accusations of being pro-Soviet or Communist, allegations which he categorically denied. For a few years prior to 1954, he had restrictions placed by the Department of State on his eligibility to obtain a passport.

In 1958, on January 15, he presented to the UN the celebrated petition signed by 9,235 scientists from many countries in the world protesting further nuclear testing. In that same year he published No More War!, a book which presents the rationale for abandoning not only further use and testing of nuclear weapons but also war itself, and which proposes the establishment of a World Peace Research Organization within the structure of the UN to "attack the problem of preserving the peace".

When the Soviet Union announced a resumption of nuclear testing in August, 1961, after the nuclear powers had voluntarily withheld testing for three years, Pauling redoubled his efforts to convince the Russian, American, and British leaders of the necessity of a test ban treaty. He spoke as a man of science. His intellectual position is summarized in a communication published in Harper's Magazine4 in 1963: "I have said that my ethical principles have caused me to reach the conclusion that the evil of war should be abolished; but my conclusion that war must be abolished if the human race is to survive is based not on ethical principles but on my thorough and careful analysis, in relation to international affairs, of the facts about the changes that have taken place in the world during recent years, especially with respect to the nature of war."

The Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, outlawing all but underground nuclear testing, was signed in July, 1963, and went into effect on October 10, 1963, the same day on which the Norwegian Nobel Committee announced that the Peace Prize reserved in the year 1962 was to be awarded to Linus Pauling.

*end article.


3. broth - Charles Darwin


The father of evolution

6. broth - Niels Bohr

The Unseen
04-10-2010, 01:23 AM
You can post what you want for an argument, but I plan on having a separate thread for it.

My plan is to have a portion of the overall vote be from the members of the draft themselves, and a portion from the "public." The question is how I should weigh each side. I'm tempted to make the votes from the members heavier, like multiply each vote you get by a certain amount or whatever. What does everyone else think?

either way you can PM me now on who you vote for.

vikes_28
04-10-2010, 06:20 AM
You can post what you want for an argument, but I plan on having a separate thread for it.

My plan is to have a portion of the overall vote be from the members of the draft themselves, and a portion from the "public." The question is how I should weigh each side. I'm tempted to make the votes from the members heavier, like multiply each vote you get by a certain amount or whatever. What does everyone else think?

either way you can PM me now on who you vote for.

I think you should weigh our votes heavier. Cause chances are, the public isn't going to want to sit and read all of our arguments on why we think so and so is an intellectual. We may get 10-15 votes at max. So yes, weigh ours more.

wicket
04-10-2010, 06:23 AM
Wickets final lineup:
arguments to be filled in later

1. wicket - Leonardo da Vinci
2. wicket - Archimedes
3. wicket - Cicero
4. wicket - John Forbes Nash
5. wicket - Gary Kasparov
6. wicket - Guglielmo Marconi
7. wicket - Stephen Hawkins
8. wicket - Scott Wright

CJSchneider
04-10-2010, 06:39 AM
You can post what you want for an argument, but I plan on having a separate thread for it.

My plan is to have a portion of the overall vote be from the members of the draft themselves, and a portion from the "public." The question is how I should weigh each side. I'm tempted to make the votes from the members heavier, like multiply each vote you get by a certain amount or whatever. What does everyone else think?

either way you can PM me now on who you vote for.

If you do this, make it so we can't vote for ourselves. What is the point of making those votes heavier if we just null it out by voting for our own lineup.

Gay Ork Wang
04-10-2010, 06:41 AM
No Goethe but Lombardi, Poe and Scott Wright makes me cry

bearsfan_51
04-10-2010, 11:23 AM
I still can't believe that nobody took MLK.....

1) Jesus of Nazarath
2) Alexander the Great
3) Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
4) Mohandas Gandhi
5) Augustus Caesar
6) Voltaire
7) Sigmund Freud
8) Michel Foucault

diabsoule
04-10-2010, 12:51 PM
I still can't believe that nobody took MLK.....

1) Jesus of Nazarath
2) Alexander the Great
3) Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
4) Mohandas Gandhi
5) Augustus Caesar
6) Voltaire
7) Sigmund Freud
8) Michel Foucault

Nobody took Beethoven either.

Here's my list...

1. Sir Issac Newton
2. Johann Sebastian Bach
3. Karl Marx
4. Napoleon Bonaparte
5. Muhammad the Prophet
6. Friedrich Nietzsche
7. Dmitri Mendeleev
8. Winston Churchill

tjsunstein
04-10-2010, 03:00 PM
tjsunstein Roster:

Aristotle
Confucius
Louis Pastuer
Thomas Jefferson
Buddha
Carl Friedrich Gauss
Samuel Johnson
Daniel Tammet

The Unseen
04-10-2010, 04:28 PM
CJ: No, you can't vote for yourself.

And I'll weigh our votes 4 times as much. Odds are the winner among is only gonna get a few votes, so I figure that's fair.

My final roster

Gottfried Leibniz
Plato
Rene Descartes
Genghis Khan
George Washington Carver
James Clerk Maxwell
Leonhard Euler
Adam Smith

wicket
04-10-2010, 05:10 PM
do you only vote on a winner or rank the guys?

The Unseen
04-10-2010, 05:22 PM
ranking would be hard to correlate with the public vote since they can't rank people.

The Unseen
04-10-2010, 05:24 PM
wait, what am I talking about? of course they could. we don't need to have a poll.

but that's hard to assign value to rankings. any ideas?

wicket
04-10-2010, 05:24 PM
ranking would be hard to correlate with the public vote since they can't rank people.

you can just use the public vote as a ranking of most votes to least votes

CJSchneider
04-10-2010, 07:14 PM
Team WIN


General Sun Tzu
Socrates
Nicolas Copernicus
Niccolò Machiavelli
Nikola Tesla
Raphael
Pythagoras
Henry David Thoreaue

The Unseen
04-10-2010, 07:47 PM
You have three Nicholas-named people. I think Team Nick is a better name.

OSUGiants17
04-10-2010, 08:11 PM
IMO, bearsfan is killing you all

tjsunstein
04-10-2010, 08:17 PM
IMO, bearsfan is killing you all

I didn't doubt that would happen.

The Unseen
04-11-2010, 05:08 PM
Again, you can PM me your votes and your descriptions now. Let's get this done relatively soon.

A Perfect Score
04-11-2010, 05:14 PM
Bearsfan and Diab had by far the strongest drafts in my opinion. Vikes is just confusing.

bearsfan_51
04-11-2010, 06:22 PM
Again, you can PM me your votes and your descriptions now. Let's get this done relatively soon.
We send our write-ups to you? Why would we do that?

bearsfan_51
04-11-2010, 06:23 PM
Bearsfan and Diab had by far the strongest drafts in my opinion. Vikes is just confusing.
I'm guessing that vikes is probably pretty young.

You can tell that I teach in the Humanities, not a hardcore scientist in the bunch. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

A Perfect Score
04-11-2010, 06:32 PM
I actually thought your first pick was the weakest. After that you absolutely dominated though.

I cant really say anything about Vikes, he will report me again, but I think its less about being young and more about being uneducated.

I'm a little shocked at some of the talent left on the board as far as literary figures are concerned. Hemingway, for one, really shocks me, especially in regards to the major influence he had on modern literature, and the evolution of minimalist writing in particular. Joyce, Im a little shocked wasnt drafted, as hes quite possibly the best pure writer of the last 100 years, rivaled only by Nabokov IMO, and was the definition of a modernist writer. There are others as well, such as Faulkner, but those really stand out to me as guys who really shaped the way modern literature is perceived. I think they definitely should of been drafted, but I guess thats just me.

wicket
04-11-2010, 06:38 PM
almost took nevil shute for his duel performance, combining being such a great writer with aircraft design is special, If you combine that with the fact that he was one of the main engineers designing arguably the most influential plane in WW2 in the spitfire.

bearsfan_51
04-11-2010, 06:38 PM
Jesus is without question the most historically and intellectually significant person in the history of the world. My write-up will reinforce this point.

A Perfect Score
04-11-2010, 06:42 PM
I didn't say it was a bad pick, just that I liked the rest of your roster better haha.

CJSchneider
04-11-2010, 06:45 PM
I'll be doing state testing starting tomorrow and will be busy as all hell next week. That being said I doubt I will get around to a write up. If you just beg for one, I'm sure I can manage a cut and paste job, but nothing original. Feel free to do a write up for me ( anyone, + rep for a decent effort). I did send my vote in already.

Chucky
04-11-2010, 06:52 PM
Economists were severely overlooked imo.

Milton Friedman should have absolutely been picked as well as Mises imo.

bearsfan_51
04-11-2010, 06:56 PM
Milton Friedman is a fascist, but he's been very influential no doubt.

Chucky
04-11-2010, 07:29 PM
Milton Friedman is a fascist, but he's been very influential no doubt.

Would you like to elaborate on Friedman being a fascist, I have heard the argument a million times, and it never fails to make me laugh.


EDIT: I am not a hard core believer in the chicago school at all.

I am much more a fan of the long neglected Austrian school fyi

bearsfan_51
04-11-2010, 07:52 PM
Would you like to elaborate on Friedman being a fascist.
Not really, waste of time.

Brothgar
04-11-2010, 08:35 PM
Any thoughts on my team?

The Unseen
04-12-2010, 06:20 PM
We send our write-ups to you? Why would we do that?


you don't have to

and Friedman worked for a fascist but I don't think he was one

The Unseen
04-12-2010, 06:29 PM
oh and if Friedman were to be drafted, in terms of influence Adam Smith and Keynes should have been drafted before him (I took Smith), perhaps also Ricardo.