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princefielder28
03-10-2010, 08:00 PM
I've been working on my rankings and I decided to throw out my top 10s at each position as a topic for discussion......

QB
1. Sam Bradford* :: Oklahoma
2. Jimmy Clausen* :: Notre Dame
3. Dan LeFevour :: Central Michigan
4. Tim Tebow :: Florida
5. Jevan Snead* :: Ole Miss
6. John Skelton :: Fordham
7. Levi Brown :: Troy
8. Colt McCoy :: Texas
9. Zac Robinson :: Oklahoma State
10. Jarrett Brown :: West Virginia

RB
1. CJ Spiller :: Clemson
2. Ryan Mathews* :: Fresno State
3. Jahvid Best* :: California
4. Toby Gerhart :: Stanford
5. Ben Tate :: Auburn
6. Montario Hardesty :: Tennessee
7. Dexter McCluster :: Ole Miss
8. Jonathan Dwyer* :: Georgia Tech
9. LeGarrette Blount :: Oregon
10. James Starks :: Buffalo

WR
1. Dez Bryant* :: Oklahoma State
2. Golden Tate* :: Notre Dame
3. Arrelious Benn* :: Illinois
4. Mardy Gilyard :: Cincinnati
5. Brandon LaFell :: Louisiana State
6. Demaryius Thomas* :: Georgia Tech
7. Damian Williams* :: USC
8. Eric Decker :: Minnesota
9. Taylor Price :: Ohio
10. Seyi Ajirotutu :: Fresno State

TE
1. Jermaine Gresham :: Oklahoma
2. Rob Gronkowski* :: Arizona
3. Aaron Hernandez* :: Florida
4. Ed Dickson :: Oregon
5. Garrett Graham :: Wisconsin
6. Anthony McCoy :: USC
7. Dorin Dickerson :: Pittsburgh
8. Dennis Pitta :: BYU
9. Colin Peek :: Alabama
10. Jimmy Graham :: Maimi(FL)

OT
1. Russell Okung :: Oklahoma State
2. Anthony Davis* :: Rutgers
3. Bryan Bulaga* :: Iowa
4. Trent Williams :: Oklahoma
5. Bruce Campbell* :: Maryland
6. Charles Brown :: USC
7. Vladimir Ducasse :: UMASS
8. Jared Veldheer :: Hillsdale
9. Jason Fox :: Miami(FL)
10. Tony Washington :: Abilene Christian

OG
1. Mike Iupati :: Idaho
2. Rodger Saffold :: Indiana
3. Jon Asamoah :: Illinois
4. Mike Johnson :: Alabama
5. John Jerry :: Mississippi
6. Zane Beadles :: Utah
7. Mitch Petrus :: Arkansas
8. Ciron Black :: Louisiana State
9. Sergio Render :: Virginia Tech
10. Marshall Newhouse :: TCU

C
1. Maurkice Pouncey* :: Florida
2. Matt Tennant :: Boston College
3. J.D. Walton :: Baylor
4. Kenny Alfred :: Washington State

DE
1. Derrick Morgan* :: Georgia Tech
2. Brandon Graham :: Michigan
3. Jerry Hughes :: TCU
4. Jason Pierre-Paul* :: South Florida
5. Everson Griffen* :: USC
6. Carlos Dunlap* :: Florida
7. Alex Carrington :: Arkansas State
8. Greg Hardy :: Mississippi
9. Corey Wootton :: Northwestern
10. Austen Lane :: Murray State

DT
1. Ndamukong Suh :: Nebraska
2. Gerald McCoy* :: Oklahoma
3. Brian Price* :: UCLA
4. Dan Williams :: Tennessee
5. Lamarr Houston :: Texas
6. Jared Odrick :: Penn State
7. Arthur Jones :: Syracuse
8. Tyson Alualu :: California
9. Torell Troup :: Central Florida
10. D’Anthony Smith :: Louisiana Tech

OLB
1. Sean Weatherspoon :: Missouri
2. Daryl Washington :: TCU
3. Eric Norwood :: South Carolina
4. Sergio Kindle :: Texas
5. Novarro Bowman :: Penn State
6. Koa Misi :: Utah
7. Ricky Sapp :: Clemson
8. Thaddeus Gibson* :: Ohio State
9. AJ Edds :: Iowa
10. O’Brien Schofield :: Wisconsin (INJURY)

ILB
1. Rolando McClain* :: Alabama
2. Donald Butler :: Washington
3. Brandon Spikes :: Florida
4. Sean Lee :: Penn State
5. Pat Angerer :: Iowa

CB
1. Joe Haden* :: Florida
2. Kareem Jackson* :: Alabama
3. Perrish Cox :: Oklahoma State
4. Kyle Wilson :: Boise State
5. Devin McCourty :: Rutgers
6. Amari Spievey* :: Iowa
7. Alterraun Verner :: UCLA
8. Dominique Franks :: Oklahoma
9. Chris Cook :: Virginia
10. Patrick Robinson :: Florida State

S
1. Eric Berry* :: Tennessee
2. Earl Thomas* :: Texas
3. Chad Jones* :: LSU
4. Taylor Mays :: USC
5. Nate Allen :: South Florida
6. Kendrick Lewis :: Mississippi
7. Morgan Burnett* :: Georgia Tech
8. Reshad Jones* :: Georgia
9. Larry Asante :: Nebraska
10. Major Wright* :: Florida

Iamcanadian
03-10-2010, 08:14 PM
You obviously didn't follow the Combine. Sorry to say it but it is just ugly to look at. Snead at #5 QB has to be a joke. Zero pocket presence, pure panic under pressure, cannot find the open receiver and has the mental toughness of an ostrich(they bury their head in the sand and hope nobody will notice them when threatened). That sums up Snead as a prospect.
The rest ios just as bad.

princefielder28
03-10-2010, 08:22 PM
You obviously didn't follow the Combine. Sorry to say it but it is just ugly to look at. Snead at #5 QB has to be a joke. Zero pocket presence, pure panic under pressure, cannot find the open receiver and has the mental toughness of an ostrich(they bury their head in the sand and hope nobody will notice them when threatened). That sums up Snead as a prospect.
The rest ios just as bad.

After you get past the top three quarterbacks, it's really all a crapshoot. I'm not the biggest fan of Snead but he does have some intrguing skills and all the QBs below him have just as many question marks.

I wish you would go further in-depth on what you disliked because the ranking of one QB doesn't really show me much.

Don Vito
03-10-2010, 08:28 PM
Diggin the Kendrick Lewis love, he is a complete FS prospect he just isn't an off the charts athlete. I think he will be very solid in the NFL.

Rosebud
03-10-2010, 08:56 PM
Arthur Jones still that high for ya? I agree with the DT and C rankings, the two positions I've paid the most attention to this year.

Love seeing starks crack a top 10. If he had just had an average year by his standards and not got hurt I fully expected him to be a second round pick.

SloppyJoe
03-10-2010, 09:02 PM
i really like Jerry Hughes, but #3 is really high imo

are you not that high on Sergio Kindle or do you just really like Washington and Norwood that much?

Patrick Robinson as the #10 CB? that pretty low imo

princefielder28
03-10-2010, 09:07 PM
i really like Jerry Hughes, but #3 is really high imo

are you not that high on Sergio Kindle or do you just really like Washington and Norwood that much?

Patrick Robinson as the #10 CB? that pretty low imo

I am not a big fan of Kindle. I've seen the flashes with him but I just don't feel comfortable with placing him ahead of the other three.

Patrick Robinson is another one where I can see some of the stuff that people get all excited over, but he's not the type of playmaker to warrant a real high grade.

49erNation85
03-10-2010, 10:47 PM
Dan is not better then Tebow athletically wise and is not much better passer IMO . we didn't even LAfevour throw at the combine . so it should go , Bradford , clausen tebow . then just go down from your own list .

MiWolves
03-10-2010, 10:57 PM
LeFevours mechanics make him a better prospect in my opinion

Morton
03-11-2010, 05:55 PM
I think that Jerry Hughes is going to blow up the NFL.

That having been said, why do you have him under "DE" when he probably should be under "OLB"?

There is a 99% chance that he's getting selected purely as a 3-4 rush LB in the draft.

RealityCheck
03-11-2010, 05:58 PM
LaFivorzzzzzzz

thetedginnshow
03-11-2010, 05:59 PM
Just wondering, but why do you love Kareem Jackson so much? I don't have a problem with it, but I was just wondering why since I don't really ever remember seeing any reasoning.

prock
03-11-2010, 06:56 PM
I find it hard to believe you don't think Donovan Warren is a top 10 CB in the draft.

Grizzlegom
03-11-2010, 07:00 PM
Firstly, Jacob Hickman quit football. Other than that, my rankings are very different from yours but I LOVE the Kareem Jackson love as he is probably my favorite CB in this draft.

princefielder28
03-11-2010, 11:09 PM
I think that Jerry Hughes is going to blow up the NFL.

That having been said, why do you have him under "DE" when he probably should be under "OLB"?

There is a 99% chance that he's getting selected purely as a 3-4 rush LB in the draft.

I'll probably end up doing that but I usually just rank players pretty much by their college position. I could probably throw Graham in the LB rankings too.

princefielder28
03-11-2010, 11:13 PM
Just wondering, but why do you love Kareem Jackson so much? I don't have a problem with it, but I was just wondering why since I don't really ever remember seeing any reasoning.

I think Jackson is one of the safest bets at the position and he's shown some real solid play while playing in the top conference in college football. He's got good size and speed and I really like that he played under Nick Saban.

the_dark_knight
03-12-2010, 10:51 AM
Most of these are decent but we obviously have different taste in corners.

djp
03-12-2010, 10:53 AM
Good stuff prince. Only thing I can think of really quickly is Anthony Davis #2. I think Bulaga and Trent Williams are both better prospects than Davis. I know I wrote I wasn't a big Bulaga guy, but they were showing some games on BTN and I really watched him more closely. Guy is nasty.

I just don't like Anthony Davis.

LizardState
03-12-2010, 11:58 AM
I think Jackson is one of the safest bets at the position and he's shown some real solid play while playing in the top conference in college football. He's got good size and speed and I really like that he played under Nick Saban.

Kudos for the Jackson love, I've watched him in depth at Bama for awhile & he's a gamer -- 40 times? **** 'em, this guy can cover, chase down receivers, & tackle, that's what playing corner is about, s/b 2nd-3rd CB drafted no later than the late 2nd rd.

C
1. Maurkice Pouncey* :: Florida
2. Matt Tennant :: Boston College
More kudos for the Tennant love, he merits consideration & receives 3 gold stars just for being a BC interior o-lineman.

QB
1. Sam Bradford* :: Oklahoma
2. Jimmy Clausen* :: Notre Dame
3. Dan LeFevour :: Central Michigan
4. Tim Tebow :: Florida
5. Jevan Snead* :: Ole Miss
6. John Skelton :: Fordham
7. Levi Brown :: Troy
8. Colt McCoy :: Texas
9. Zac Robinson :: Oklahoma State
10. Jarrett Brown :: West Virginia

Good a thread as any to discuss this, I think this is a think twice QB draft with no obvious Staffordlike #1 choice there. Why is Bradford the #1 QB by default? The pre-shoulder injury Bradford, uhh maybe, as long as there's this question about his proneness to injuring that shoulder as it has repeatedly been & put him out of action both times he should have an asterisk * next to his name. Yes he will be drafted early b/c there is always a premium on potential franchise QBs, but I think he's one more pop on that shoulder that has a big target on it from being out of fb -- don't think the defenses he'll face in the NFL don't know it. That drops him but does that automatically elevate Cllusen, Golden Domer trailing clouds of glory nothwithstanding? IDTS, the questions about his ability to make all the throws in the NFL linger. Does that elevate Lefevour as this yr's Sanchez? Maybe, he had the most impressive All Star game & post season showing, I like him & Pike better than these top 2 but I'm just weird that way. Yes Snead screwed the pooch bigtime this yr but the tools are there, in the right system with the right position coach he could play in the NFL. Colt McCoy? Again, he's like Bradford who will need a doctor's note to play, I think he's dropped to as late as the 3rd rd.

RBs: Glad to see Matthews ranked 2nd, his stock is rising. Gerhart, Tate & Blount s/b in a separate category as Textbook Power Backs, all 3 are NFL-ready IMO. Dwyer shouldn't be in the top 10, he came from an option offense & has a difficult transition ahead of him. Spiller & McCluster s/b also be separated as RS 1st, RBs 2nd, way too high an injury risk for them if they're #1 picks earning #1 $ who are asked for 10+ carries/gm. -- no HC wants to lose their #1 pick who might be the Next Devin Hester/Josh Cribbs/Leon Washington gamebreaker RS.

OTs: transpose these 2: Bulaga s/b 1st (isnt that the current consensus?), Okung 3rd.

DE
1. Derrick Morgan* :: Georgia Tech
2. Brandon Graham :: Michigan
3. Jerry Hughes :: TCU
4. Jason Pierre-Paul* :: South Florida

Graham, Hughes (although he will be an OLB in the NFL as noted), & JPP are all on the same top shelf tied for #1, Morgan 2nd. Graham is a sack artist & sure tackler, has had a superlative post-season & is quick as a cat, JPP almost that fast.

Where are the other 5 ILBs? If you listed 10, eye-gouger Spikes would be 10th if that high.

I know there's no NT/NG category, but where's Cody among DTs?

the_dark_knight
03-12-2010, 12:20 PM
Most of these are decent but we obviously have different taste in corners.

princefielder28
03-12-2010, 01:14 PM
Where are the other 5 ILBs? If you listed 10, eye-gouger Spikes would be 10th if that high.

I know there's no NT/NG category, but where's Cody among DTs?

I struggle with ranking 10 inside backers because I don't know if there's really ten guys that are worth drafting. Otherwise, here's what it would look like

1. Rolando McClain* :: Alabama
2. Donald Butler :: Washington
3. Brandon Spikes :: Florida
4. Sean Lee :: Penn State
5. Pat Angerer :: Iowa
6. Jamar Chaney :: Mississippi State
7. Phillip Dillard :: Nebraska
8. Darryl Sharpton :: Miami(FL)
9. Kion Wilson :: South Florida
10. Micah Johnson :: Kentucky

As far as Terrence Cody, I have him rated as the #14 DT