DE Tapp traded to Eagles

[thebow305]

FoxSports.com's Jay Glazer reports the Eagles have acquired DE Darryl Tapp from the Seahawks in exchange for DE/OLB Chris Clemons and a fourth-round draft pick.


It's a worthwhile gamble for Philly. Tapp didn't fit into defensive coordinator Gus Bradley's scheme last year, but he's been more disruptive than Clemons over the past few seasons. Sean McDermott will be charged with getting the 25-year-old back to his 2007-08 production as a rotational pass rusher.

http://twitter.com/Jay_Glazer/status/10590987740

[DiG]

always liked tapp and thought he could fair well in a different system. this might be a decent move by the eagles.

[Cicero]

Carroll is 0/2 today...

[senormysterioso]

Maybe I'm off base, I haven't really seen a ton of either Trent Cole or Tapp but Tapp kind of reminds me of a poor man's Trent Cole, obviously the Eagles did a good job getting the most out of Cole. Maybe they'll have success with Tapp.

[diabsoule]

I really like this trade for the Eagles. I think Tapp should flourish in the Eagles system, esp with the coaching of McDermott.

I have no idea what Seattle is thinking, though.

[Cicero]

I really like this trade for the Eagles. I think Tapp should flourish in the Eagles system, esp with the coaching of McDermott.

I have no idea what Seattle is thinking, though.

You're not the only one...

[frubulubu]

This is somthing we didnt see brewing

[Shane P. Hallam]

PFT reporting OG Rob Sims may be next, for 4th round pick, possibly to Browns.

http://is.gd/aLeDn

[Thumper]

Well this is a pleasant surprise and I definitely think he can be at least a good player on the first two downs and can move inside to UT on third downs, he seems like he has developed into the player Abiamiri was supposed to be, a guy who is powerful and is good against the run. He isn't going to light the world on fire in terms of sacks but I definitely think he is an upgrade on the left side and is certainly better than Chris Clemons who flashed but never did anything decent aside from stiff arming the hell out of a Cowboys running back and trucking Tavaris Jackson.

[Cicero]

PFT reporting OG Rob Sims may be next, for 4th round pick, possibly to Browns.

http://is.gd/aLeDn

Sims being tendered for a 4th round pick was just stupid. I'm really scared for draft day.

[Cicero]

Well this is a pleasant surprise and I definitely think he can be at least a good player on the first two downs and can move inside to UT on third downs, he seems like he has developed into the player Abiamiri was supposed to be, a guy who is powerful and is good against the run. He isn't going to light the world on fire in terms of sacks but I definitely think he is an upgrade on the left side and is certainly better than Chris Clemons who flashed but never did anything decent aside from stiff arming the hell out of a Cowboys running back and trucking Tavaris Jackson.

Also keep in mind he only had one good player on the line with him (Mebane) vs. the three he will now have.

[BRAVEHEART]

I guess pete thinks Lo-Jack is good enough to hold his own this season.

[Romarville]

I'm a bit surprised by the move, mostly because yesterday he re-signed with the Seahawks. I personally don't think he's good enough to be a three down end, but he's a fairly decent rusher. As for Rob Sims potentially leaving, that would be a big mistake.

[frubulubu]

Whats Pete thinking ya'll?

[Abaddon]

I don't see much Seahawk football. Someone mind breaking Sims down for me?


As for Tapp, I really liked him coming out. Surprising to see him cast off like this.

[XxXdragonXxX]

I'm a bit surprised by the move, mostly because yesterday he re-signed with the Seahawks. I personally don't think he's good enough to be a three down end, but he's a fairly decent rusher. As for Rob Sims potentially leaving, that would be a big mistake.


He didn't really re-sign, he just signed his RFA tender. Without signing that he technically wouldn't be on the roster, therefore couldn't be traded.

Tapp has had 1 good game in his career, back in 2007 he had 4 sacks against the Rams....he ended the year with 7 sacks, a career high. He had 2.5 sacks last year. The guy is not good, people.

I would have been OK with just getting Clemons for him...talent-wise that would be a sideways move for a player that fits the Seahawks system better. Getting a 4th round pick in the deal to, thats a win for the Seahawks.

Maybe Tapp fits with the Eagles better than Clemons. Could be a good deal for both teams, but this is definitely not a bad deal for the Hawks.

[thetedginnshow]

I'm surprised by the reactions. I think Tapp for a 4th is great, especially in a class like this. And I have no idea why anyone would give a 4th for Sims. He's extremely mediocre. In a class like this, the Seahawks will just have to be able to draft well (and I can very well see Schneider doing that).

[YotoJets007]

I thought Seahawks just re signed Tapp. Whatever!

Tapp is the depth player as Carroll may not sure where will he play Tapp. DE or OLB. Clemons can be their rushing OLB (I believe he once played for Gregg Williams).

Trade benefits both teams and players.

[Thumper]

He didn't really re-sign, he just signed his RFA tender. Without signing that he technically wouldn't be on the roster, therefore couldn't be traded.

Tapp has had 1 good game in his career, back in 2007 he had 4 sacks against the Rams....he ended the year with 7 sacks, a career high. He had 2.5 sacks last year. The guy is not good, people.

I would have been OK with just getting Clemons for him...talent-wise that would be a sideways move for a player that fits the Seahawks system better. Getting a 4th round pick in the deal to, thats a win for the Seahawks.

Maybe Tapp fits with the Eagles better than Clemons. Could be a good deal for both teams, but this is definitely not a bad deal for the Hawks.

You clearly don't understand how much Chris Clemons sucks, he does absolutely nothing, nothing at all. He was beat out by Jason Babin, thats how bad he is. And at least Tapp can stop the run, something you can't expect from Clemons unless some type of miracle occurs. Clemons is a scrub, basically you just got a 4th round pick.

[tjsunstein]

I actually like this deal for the Seahawks. New regime getting rid of a guy that didn't fit the system and acquiring a 4th in the process seems like a good move. Not to mention Clemons can contribute some still. Not a bad move, imo, in a deep draft.

[XxXdragonXxX]

You clearly don't understand how much Chris Clemons sucks, he does absolutely nothing, nothing at all. He was beat out by Jason Babin, thats how bad he is. And at least Tapp can stop the run, something you can't expect from Clemons unless some type of miracle occurs. Clemons is a scrub, basically you just got a 4th round pick.


Hmm, nothing is about the same as we got from Tapp the past 4 years as well. Clemons will likely be used in the elephant package as a rush linebacker, he doesn't need to stop the run. Tapp could have been cut outright and I wouldn't have really cared. I'm sure thats the same way you feel about Clemons.

[zachsaints52]

Seems like Browns and Seahawks new regimes are really wanting to put their impact on their respective teams.

[Cicero]

You clearly don't understand how much Chris Clemons sucks, he does absolutely nothing, nothing at all. He was beat out by Jason Babin, thats how bad he is. And at least Tapp can stop the run, something you can't expect from Clemons unless some type of miracle occurs. Clemons is a scrub, basically you just got a 4th round pick.

That was my initial thought. If Carroll and Schneider really think Clemons make up for the difference between a second and a fourth I don't know what to tell them.

Hmm, nothing is about the same as we got from Tapp the past 4 years as well. Clemons will likely be used in the elephant package as a rush linebacker, he doesn't need to stop the run. Tapp could have been cut outright and I wouldn't have really cared. I'm sure thats the same way you feel about Clemons.

Which DE on our roster is better than Tapp again?

[XxXdragonXxX]

That was my initial thought. If Carroll and Schneider really think Clemons make up for the difference between a second and a fourth I don't know what to tell them.

This 2nd for a 4th crap is just plain stupid. That 2nd rounder was wasted FOUR YEARS AGO. We traded a player that didn't pan out, for another player that didn't pan out AND a 4th round pick. How is this bad for the Seahawks?


Which DE on our roster is better than Tapp again?

They're all about the same as Tapp. Thats not saying much though.

[Cicero]

This 2nd for a 4th crap is just plain stupid. That 2nd rounder was wasted FOUR YEARS AGO. We traded a player that didn't pan out, for another player that didn't pan out AND a 4th round pick. How is this bad for the Seahawks?

The 2nd was in reference to his tender, not where he was picked. They could have tendered him as a 3rd or 4th if they wanted. The chances of a 4th round pick being as good as Tapp are pretty slim. He's not a sack artist but he had a good amount of QB hits this year, he's good against the run, and he was the best DE on the roster.

[XxXdragonXxX]

The 2nd was in reference to his tender, not where he was picked. They could have tendered him as a 3rd or 4th if they wanted. The chances of a 4th round pick being as good as Tapp are pretty slim. He's not a sack artist but he had a good amount of QB hits this year, he's good against the run, and he was the best DE on the roster.


What does his tender have to do with anything? Did you expect to get a 2nd rounder for him? If you did you are crazy.

Being the best DE on the Seahawks roster is like being the best athlete at the special olympics. I will repeat this again, he had TWO AND A HALF SACKS LAST YEAR. Even Lo-Jack and Kerney's old ass managed more.

[senormysterioso]

What does his tender have to do with anything? Did you expect to get a 2nd rounder for him? If you did you are crazy.

Being the best DE on the Seahawks roster is like being the best athlete at the special olympics. I will repeat this again, he had TWO AND A HALF SACKS LAST YEAR. Even Lo-Jack and Kerney's old ass managed more.

That couldn't possibly have anything to do with having their pass defense being ranked 30th could it. It's hard to get sacks when DB's can't keep a guy covered up for more than 2 seconds.

[Cicero]

What does his tender have to do with anything? Did you expect to get a 2nd rounder for him? If you did you are crazy.

Being the best DE on the Seahawks roster is like being the best athlete at the special olympics. I will repeat this again, he had TWO AND A HALF SACKS LAST YEAR. Even Lo-Jack and Kerney's old ass managed more.

His tender has do with how Carroll and Schneider (the people who placed the tender on him) valued him, and the disturbing thought that Chris Clemons makes up the difference for trading down from the second round to the 4th.

Sacks are not an end all measurement. Kerney and Jackson might be on the same level as pass rushers but he was by far the best DE that we had against the run. Kerney will probably get injured again this year since he's completely washed up and then who are we going to throw out there?

[Thumper]

I hate citing Profootballfocus but I think that I'm going to here, Tapp ranked 17th overall for defensive ends. He only got 2 sacks which isn't good but he also had 15 QB hits and 13 hurries from his spot. He graded out 4th overall against the run, so he is a good run stuffer.

[XxXdragonXxX]

That couldn't possibly have anything to do with having their pass defense being ranked 30th could it. It's hard to get sacks when DB's can't keep a guy covered up for more than 2 seconds.


It's also hard to cover a WR when the QB has ALL DAY to throw because your DE's can't rush the passer. Not that the secondary was any good either.

This is the thing. After the season ended I was hard pressed to find 10 players on the entire roster that I would miss if they were gone...Tapp wasn't one of those 10 players. The only DB on that list was Josh Wilson. The only DL on that list was Brandon Mebane.

[bhaarat316]

would Tapp be better standing up in the 3-4?

[Cicero]

It's also hard to cover a WR when the QB has ALL DAY to throw because your DE's can't rush the passer. Not that the secondary was any good either.

This is the thing. After the season ended I was hard pressed to find 10 players on the entire roster that I would miss if they were gone...Tapp wasn't one of those 10 players. The only DB on that list was Josh Wilson. The only DL on that list was Brandon Mebane.

See it's not so much that I think Tapp is great, but we don't need to be downgrading when we already have so many needs (same goes for Grant).

[gpngc]

The key here is Nick Reed (someone Carroll is familiar with as well).

Simply put, the Seahawks had too many DEs. Tapp may have been the best of the bunch, but if he was - it wasn't by much and he sure as hell didn't make much of impact in terms of making the defense better as a unit.

I just fear that this newly acquired 4th rounder will now be flipped to San Diego for Charlie Whitehurst...

[XxXdragonXxX]

His tender has do with how Carroll and Schneider (the people who placed the tender on him) valued him, and the disturbing thought that Chris Clemons makes up the difference for trading down from the second round to the 4th.

No, it doesn't mean that at all. A 2nd round pick is the 2nd lowest he could be tendered. The lowest would be NO COMPENSATION.

Sacks are not an end all measurement. Kerney and Jackson might be on the same level as pass rushers but he was by far the best DE that we had against the run. Kerney will probably get injured again this year since he's completely washed up and then who are we going to throw out there?


Again, being the best run defending DE on the Seahawks roster means absolutely nothing. THEY ALL SUCK.

[frubulubu]

I was of the taught that Eagles would grab a end that would complement Cole in regards to sacks. I know he is stout against the run, but there are two DTs that do a good job of that already.

[XxXdragonXxX]

See it's not so much that I think Tapp is great, but we don't need to be downgrading when we already have so many needs (same goes for Grant).


I don't see it as downgrading. I see it as getting something for someone that could have been cut and nobody would have noticed on game day. Grant we actually did get nothing for. Basically getting rid of these guys just means somebody else gets to try, maybe they won't pan out, maybe they will. But as they say, "The definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over an expecting different results." Might as well try somebody new, it can't get any worse.

[MikeTeel]

Tapp fit into the scheme just fine. He was top 5 in the league in QB hits and just because he didn't put up sacks doesn't mean he wasn't getting pressure. As usual, he was amazing against the run. I really think he was capable of double digit sacks this season. This is a terrible deal for Seattle, the Seattle blog I post on frequently has over 1000 comments of people bitching of this deal, don't say that it isn't bad for Seattle, we got fleeced.

[Morton]

Pure low-risk / high-reward move for the Eagles.

Clemons was a marginal player with very little value, so for a 4th round pick they got a young, up-and-coming LDE, with the potential to make an impact, and if he doesn't they can just write it off as the loss of a 4th round pick, and simply view it as an addition to the depth chart.

I have a feeling that Tapp might be better in the Eagles system than he was in the Seahawks system. Don't know if I can say the same about Clemons, but for the sake of Pete Carroll's career, I'm going to hope so too.

[Cicero]

I don't see it as downgrading. I see it as getting something for someone that could have been cut and nobody would have noticed on game day. Grant we actually did get nothing for. Basically getting rid of these guys just means somebody else gets to try, maybe they won't pan out, maybe they will. But as they say, "The definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over an expecting different results." Might as well try somebody new, it can't get any worse.

Well I really doubt we will get someone as good as Tapp if we use that pick on a DE, there's no one left in FA as good as he is, and there is no one on our roster who is better than he is.

On a completely random note, I swear I'm having a dejavu moment right now. I really feel like I remember reading the two posts above mine a couple days ago.

[frubulubu]

Tapp fit into the scheme just fine. He was top 5 in the league in QB hits and just because he didn't put up sacks doesn't mean he wasn't getting pressure. As usual, he was amazing against the run. I really think he was capable of double digit sacks this season. This is a terrible deal for Seattle, the Seattle blog I post on frequently has over 1000 comments of people bitching of this deal, don't say that it isn't bad for Seattle, we got fleeced.

Good to hear.

[MikeTeel]

He's a really good guy, a fan favouite. Add him on Twitter and you'll see what I mean. He's really religious, but he loves all his fans and always replied to me when I sent him messages. Great guy. I'm going to miss him.

[Matthew Jones]

I hate citing Profootballfocus but I think that I'm going to here, Tapp ranked 17th overall for defensive ends. He only got 2 sacks which isn't good but he also had 15 QB hits and 13 hurries from his spot. He graded out 4th overall against the run, so he is a good run stuffer.

At first when I saw this I thought wow, this guy only had a couple sacks, but as you can tell I didn't see a whole wealth of Seahawks games because apparently this guy is a pretty good pass rusher. Sacks are a little bit overrated because usually we don't have access to hits and hurries so Pro Football Focus does a pretty good job helping people see the bigger picture. I think he's going to be a nice player opposite Trent Cole in Philadelphia.

[fenikz]

only decent person the seahawks had on the d-line

[Scotty D]

Would I be wrong in thinking the Seahawks are going to be ******* terrible next year?

[thetedginnshow]

Well I really doubt we will get someone as good as Tapp if we use that pick on a DE, there's no one left in FA as good as he is, and there is no one on our roster who is better than he is.

But they can use a first rounder on a stud DE, one far better than a rotational guy like Tapp, and use that 4th to fill a key need elsewhere on the team.

Honestly, I don't see why people are trashing the Seahawks that much. The draft pick is worth far more than the marginal impact he was having on that defense. Not that I think that it's bad for the Eagles though. They're in a much better position to use someone like Tapp to their advantage. But for the Hawks, they're best blowing everything up and seeing what they can get.

[J255979-11nine]

only decent person the seahawks had on the d-line

Brandon Mebane says, "Hi."

[Addict]

excellent trade for the Eagles. Not sure what if anything clemmons will add to the hawks though.

[FloridaFootball]

I really liked Tapp coming outa Virgina Tech, good move by eagles

[XxXdragonXxX]

I'm really just in disbelief that people actually think losing Tapp is going to hurt the Seahawks. He's just another one of those short, slow, good character guys that Ruskell loved to draft. Not sure what his thinking was here, I mean Ive heard of building a fast defense, I've heard of building a big defense....but Ruskell seemed to go for the worst of both worlds.

And no fenikz, Brandon Mebane happens to be the only decent player the Seahawks had on the DL.

[Cicero]

Would I be wrong in thinking the Seahawks are going to be ******* terrible next year?

In a word, no.