Joey Porter to the Cardinals

[tjsunstein]

Per Sportscenter.

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/10746104373

3 year deal apparently.

[Da-Phins]

If you have any young guys who you are trying to develop that plays the same position as Porter then say audios to that. He was known as the "progress stopper" in Miami. If not, then good signing for them.

[PACKmanN]

If you have any young guys who you are trying to develop that plays the same position as Porter then say audios to that. He was known as the "progress stopper" in Miami. If not, then good signing for them.

Why would the LB coach stop doing his job?

[Da-Phins]

Why would the LB coach stop doing his job?

Porter would basically tell the young pups to go **** themselves if they tried to come on to the field subbing in for him. So it was hard for them to get any playing time cause he wouldnt get off(thats what she said) even though they were the better pass rusher then Porter was. Porter only applied 11 QB pressures last year according to a few Miami reporters.

Who knows. Porter may be one of those guys that just need to go to a different team to get things going again cause minus 3/4 quarters of 08 season, he really hasnt done much for us in 3 years.

[fenikz]

sploooooosh

Arizona gave LB Joey Porter a three-year, $17.5 million contract, with a max value of $24.5 million. Porter strikes again.

schefter's tweet

[thebow305]

Wow, overpaid big time!

I think a Snickers bar could do what Porter did for our defense last year.

[BlindSite]

Big dollars for 5-7 sacks, something of a locker room cancer who's going to give your opponents plenty of headlines for the cork board.

[thebow305]

Big dollars for 5-7 sacks, something of a locker room cancer who's going to give your opponents plenty of headlines for the cork board.

Exactly, that's all he EVER did. Just fire the other teams up. Even with his 18 sack season or whatever it was, there weren't really impact sacks. I can remember one against the 49ers to ice the game, but the rest were just non-factors. If you take into account that all he does is rush the passer on every single play, it's not that impressive at all. He has little pass coverage ability, and is a complete non-factor in the run game. Good riddance!

[Splat]

Ya, I don't like that deal for the Cards but what ever.

[RaiderNation]

Rental player for a year or 2. This allows them to sure up the LT position in the 1st now

[fenikz]

Whis & Grimm know him better than me(and all of you) So I trust them, he never had any problems in Pitt, just once he got to Miami

did overpay a bit for him, but everyone is this offseason at least we aren't giving out record contracts.

[Grizzlegom]

i like the deal for the Cards. He wasn't nearly as bad for us as bow and Da-Phins made him out to be. His first year Cam Cameron played him out of position, his second year he was a DPOY candidate because Parcells put him back at his natural position and last year he just got into trouble with all the trash talk and off-field antics he likes to perform. He also couldn't accept that Cameron Wake was a better pass rusher than him and was replacing him in obvious passing situations and thats the only reason we had any problems with him. Dude can still play and is much better in coverage and against the run than he's given credit for. He isn't a premier player anymore but he's definitely still an above average starter and instantly becomes the best LB on ur team since you lost Dansby. Like you said Whiz and Grimm are familiar with him and he'll be playing opposite Haggans again which should make both of them better since they know each others tendencies.

Definitely gave him too much money and it makes me wonder if we could have traded him but I wish him good luck. Like I said, I think he's still a good player, he's just in decline and with BP hating players that run their mouths, once his skills weren't elite anymore, he was considered expendable.

[D-Unit]

Big name, diminished game.

[TheMorningZoo]

potential stop-gap, getting up their in age, he is past his prime and on the downside of his career... + the Cards other OLB's are old, so they still need to address this situation, but will probably go OT round 1, but I would still target Jerry Hughes if it is a possibility

[V.I.P]

lol @ Arizone thinking Joey Porter is an upgrade.

potential stop-gap, getting up their in age, he is past his prime and on the downside of his career... + the Cards other OLB's are old, so they still need to address this situation, but will probably go OT round 1, but I would still target Jerry Hughes if it is a possibility

Jerry Hughes won't be around when they pick in the 2nd round, and i don't see them reaching for him in the first.

[Hines]

I love Peezy. I wished he would come back to Pittsburgh and retire as a Steeler. That said, I would NEVER give up potentially 8 million for him.

[K Train]

joey porter and clark haggans, that is SICK 5-6 years ago

i do like porter alot, but him being a red steeler of the west isnt a surprise

[K Train]

Whis & Grimm know him better than me(and all of you) So I trust them, he never had any problems in Pitt, just once he got to Miami

did overpay a bit for him, but everyone is this offseason at least we aren't giving out record contracts.

whis and grimm dealt with him very little as steeler offensive coaches. they just want another former steeler on their resume

[wordofi]

Wow, overpaid big time!

I think a Snickers bar could do what Porter did for our defense last year.

Everybody's paid what their worth. That's why Porter was paid $17.5 million.

[bhaarat316]

They needed help at Olb quite a bit.

[TitleTown088]

Why not give this money to a superior player like Rolle or Dansby?

[scottyboy]

Why not give this money to a superior player like Rolle or Dansby?

apparently they did offer Rolle the same amount of cash but he liked the giants better <3

idk about dansby

[keylime_5]

red steeler of the west, that's cute.

didn't joey have 16 sacks just two seasons ago? they need someone inside to replace Dansby and/or a real nose tackle or their run defense is gonna really stink.

EDIT: 17 sacks two years ago actually. 8 last year. still has some in the tank.

[TheMorningZoo]

lol @ Arizone thinking Joey Porter is an upgrade.



Jerry Hughes won't be around when they pick in the 2nd round, and i don't see them reaching for him in the first.

It might be considered a slight reach, but if the top flite OT's are off the board, you are left with Charles Brown or Jerry Hughes. I think Hughes will be gone early 2nd, so late first might not be too big of a reach.

Chargers took Larry English last year earlier than that, and we just rotated him a bit with Merriman and Phillips... He can use more time, but is the long term-answer when one of them packs his bags.

Same should be done for Arizona IMO

[Stranger]

lol @ Arizone thinking Joey Porter is an upgrade.


He is a better pass rusher than anyone currently on the roster. The OLBs on our roster currently are.

33 year old Haggans and his 5 sacks.
Rookie from last year Brown who went on IR before the season started.
Rookie (6th round) from last year Davis.

The staff are quite high on Brown on Davis but we need a proven pass rusher threat and even if he is slowing down Porter provides that. I don't see how anyone can be against this move.

[GoRavens]

Bad move in my opinion.
Three years for a player on the decline is outrageous.
Why not pay Dansby, and waste money on Porter?
...Doesn't make sense.
Pass rush is still an immediate need for Arizona.
Maybe Porter will squirt out 5 sacks.. -___-

[Ness]

This guy is always talking smack. I hope Vernon Davis clowns his butt twice a year.

[fenikz]

so does Darnell Dockett

[MasterShake]

so does Darnell Dockett

Yup...and certainly no reason to give Darnell Docket that money...or Anquan Boldin....give it to Joey Porter.

Thats some damn fine GMing. Let your young superstars go and invest in washed up assholes.

[Supporting Caste]

The Cardinals are going to be atrocious next year.

[Stranger]

Bad move in my opinion.
Three years for a player on the decline is outrageous.
Why not pay Dansby, and waste money on Porter?
...Doesn't make sense.
Pass rush is still an immediate need for Arizona.
Maybe Porter will squirt out 5 sacks.. -___-

We gave Dansby 20 million over the last two years. We offered him big contracts during that time but he kept stalling. The guy wanted to leave, nothing more we could have done.

If Porter squirts out 6 sacks this season that equals the season high for any of our OLBs since we have switched full time to the 3-4.

Yup...and certainly no reason to give Darnell Docket that money...or Anquan Boldin....give it to Joey Porter.

Thats some damn fine GMing. Let your young superstars go and invest in washed up assholes.

Dockett and Boldin both received an extension from the Cardinals.

[Splat]

Dockett and Boldin both received an extension from the Cardinals.

This.

Alot of people are still under the impression they didn't you can debate that they out played those deals but they did sign extensions.

[fenikz]

i thought people would join a forum about football to educate themselves rather than just spout off stupid comments

[Vikes99ej]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say he doesn't play three years for the Cars.

[Splat]

Cardinals wanted Wimbley before Porter signing (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/20/cardinals-wanted-wimbley-before-porter-signing/)

[thebow305]

Dude can still play and is much better in coverage and against the run than he's given credit for.

I'm sorry man, but I don't know what you were watching for the past 2 years, Porter sucks against the run. Straight up. Pass coverage maybe he's as you describe. But he adds NOTHING in run support. I mean it with all my heart that some posters in this forum could do what he did in that department.

[MasterShake]

Dockett and Boldin both received an extension from the Cardinals.

I'm aware of their previous extentions, but they are both young studs in their prime...one is gone and one has a foot out the door and the other foot is disgruntled in the locker room.

Players of that caliber don't grow on trees...you hold onto them until they can't produce anymore. Porters contract could have gone to saving one of them. They could draft an OLB who could match porters production at this point in his career.

Now they'll have an OLB who will give them 7-8 sacks and then get cut do to an over-priced contract.

[Scotty D]

The Cardinals are going to be atrocious next year.

NFC west will be a dog fight between them and the 49ers. I still think they win the division.

[GoRavens]

NFC west will be a dog fight between them and the 49ers. I still think they win the division.

I disagree.
49ers have improved a ton the last 2 years, and this upcoming season they'll just be better.
49ers: 10-6 Playofffzzzzzzzz
Seahawks: 8-8
Cardinals: 7-9
Rams: 6-10

[Splat]

I'm not sold on any QB on the 49ers roster, that said the whole Div has question marks at QB so...

[Bucs_Rule]

I give the edge to San Francisco.

Arizona defense was horrendous in the 2 playoff games and it got weaker in the off-season. On offense I expect Leinart or Anderson to struggle for a few games, even if the opening day starter plays well he won't approach Kurt Warner's play.

Alex Smith looked decent in the spread offense. That should give them a similar offense to Arizona. They have the better defense so that gives them a slight edge.

And San Francisco swept Arizona last season.

Seattle thinks Charlie Whitehurst is the solution, enough said.

And St.Louis is St.Louis

One thing we can all agree on, the NFC West will defend its title as the league's worst division.

[thenewfeature06]

Porter will def add a toughness to this defense but still think they should address defense in the first..

[Stranger]

I'm aware of their previous extentions, but they are both young studs in their prime...one is gone and one has a foot out the door and the other foot is disgruntled in the locker room.

Players of that caliber don't grow on trees...you hold onto them until they can't produce anymore. Porters contract could have gone to saving one of them. They could draft an OLB who could match porters production at this point in his career.

Now they'll have an OLB who will give them 7-8 sacks and then get cut do to an over-priced contract.

I don't know why you think us signing Porter had anything to do with Boldin going or why you think Dockett is on his way out with two years left on his contract. If we had kept Boldin we still would have gone after him, the team needs someone to rush the passer.

Boldin being traded wasn't because we decided we would give Porter the money instead of him. It came because Drew Rosenhaus and him got greedy and put themselves and the organisation in a bad situation two years ago. When it didn't work out Boldin got angry and said he wouldn't sign another extension. The money he got from Baltimore was similar to what the Cardinals offered him back then (and I am sure would have offered him again if he wanted to stay).


Dockett is signed through until after next year and then will either sign an extension or play under the franchise tag (so with us for at least three more years). I don't know why you assume we wont try hold on to him or where you got the disgruntled from. He wants a new contract and makes some noise about it during the offseason and occasional tweet (like the majority of players that want a new contract) but he shuts up during the season and is one of the leaders of the team.

[fenikz]

I'm aware of their previous extentions, but they are both young studs in their prime...one is gone and one has a foot out the door and the other foot is disgruntled in the locker room.

maybe 4 or 5 years ago, but Boldin is constantly injured and turning 30, he is in rapid decline

and since when was Dockett disgruntled he is having the time of his life

[wogitalia]

i thought people would join a forum about football to educate themselves rather than just spout off stupid comments

You have far too much faith in the human race...

A solid signing. Not sure he offers more than Dansby or Rolle, but it seems apparent that both those guys wanted out which is a bit of a worry.

Cards are going to be interesting this year. They seem to be weaker just about everywhere and with a notoriously cheap owner you know they are prime to be one of the teams to really exploit the lack of a salary floor. I hope not because I really like a lot of their players but this offseason has to be worrying.

[fenikz]

we don't have many holes and are probably the best drafting team in the league we will still be in the hunt for a ring next year

[MasterShake]

we don't have many holes and are probably the best drafting team in the league we will still be in the hunt for a ring next year

I like how you wear your homerism like a badge of honor.

Heck...I'm throwing the 49ers in contention for a ring next year too, logic be damned!

[fenikz]

enjoy watching us in January again, been about a decade since you played in a meaningful game

[MasterShake]

enjoy watching us in January again, been about a decade since you played in a meaningful game

Why should I allow facts like that to stop me from declaring us superbowl contenders?