Breaking Bad [SPOILERS]

[Bert Macklin]

Mike is growing to be my favorite character after Saul.

[Vikes99ej]

I have a bad feeling about how Mike is gonna go. It's gonna come out of nowhere like right after he's done visiting his daugher or something. Just completely unexpected.

[TheBoyWonder22]

I thought the nanny was gonna take him out. That would have been nuts, but taking two affiliates out in an episode was probably enough in order to keep the story going. I think I'm going to try to audition for a small role for next season. I just want to be a part of the last season and I'm big enough to play a goon or a cop or something so I'll let you guys know how it goes after I've looked into it.

[49ersfan_87]

I knew the German company was playing a part this year!

And i actually think this season is going way faster than Season 4. At the very least, its a lot more entertaining.

[bearsfan_51]

I thought the nanny was gonna take him out. That would have been nuts, but taking two affiliates out in an episode was probably enough in order to keep the story going. I think I'm going to try to audition for a small role for next season. I just want to be a part of the last season and I'm big enough to play a goon or a cop or something so I'll let you guys know how it goes after I've looked into it.
You have to be part of the actor's guild to do anything other than be someone in the background in anything even semi-legitimate. You don't just show up and audition.

[TheBoyWonder22]

You have to be part of the actor's guild to do anything other than be someone in the background in anything even semi-legitimate. You don't just show up and audition.
Really? Well I was just saying I'd look into it. I honestly would be an extra in order to be a part of the show though. I start acting classes in the fall so I might as well learn about all of this stuff anyway.

[comahan]

Thats the Breaking Bad I love so much. Great stuff.

I think I'll audition to be a member of the german entourage next season. I look good in a suit and I could totally learn how to sit all german-like before they begin shooting.

[fenikz]

Much better episode, 14 episodes left

[Xiomera]

I'm gonna audition to be Jesse's previously unmentioned other brother.

Yeah, that'll work ...

[MetSox17]

Hank is close to putting it together. They're making it pretty clear with all the stupid blank looks he keeps giving whenever it's thrown in his face.

Just realized what you meant by this. He had one of those blank stares when the DEA boss was explaining how he was ashamed of how Gus was under his nose all along, even at his family BBQs (cue Hank remembering all the BBQs they've had at the White residence).

[JoeJoeBrown]

Just realized what you meant by this. He had one of those blank stares when the DEA boss was explaining how he was ashamed of how Gus was under his nose all along, even at his family BBQs (cue Hank remembering all the BBQs they've had at the White residence).

Yeah, that was painfully over obvious. But I guess necessary for the slower people that watch the show.

[MetSox17]

Yeah, that was painfully over obvious. But I guess necessary for the slower people that watch the show.

Yeah, they've had a few of those instances this season (like the Mike face after leaving the DEA interview), but i wasn't really paying attention then.

Also, Walt needs to chill with the spousal rape.

[JoeJoeBrown]

Yeah, they've had a few of those instances this season (like the Mike face after leaving the DEA interview), but i wasn't really paying attention then.

Also, Walt needs to chill with the spousal rape.

Yeah, that was ****** up.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Walt just needed to get that d wet. He takes what he wants.

[Brothgar]

Walt isn't only the one who knocks he is also the one who taps.

[WMD]

http://i.minus.com/i9JVel5T7726l.gif

Don't know if I'll bother watching the show anymore.. It's not Breaking Bad without Mr. Chow.

[bearsfan_51]

Why does it say 2009?

[MetSox17]

Yeah, not sure why it says 09 unless they're going by a year and change after the show initially started. In the timeline it has only been since i'd guess around 1.75 years

[wojo]

I think I'm going to try to audition for a small role for next season. I just want to be a part of the last season and I'm big enough to play a goon or a cop or something so I'll let you guys know how it goes after I've looked into it.

hahahahha good luck!!!!!! :evil_laugh: :popcorn:

[wojo]

I start acting classes in the fall

since when?

i now feel like an ass for laughing at something that you wanna do with your life. my b.

[wojo]

Also, Walt needs to chill with the spousal rape.

yea dude that scene when he was laying in bed w/ skylar was really creepy

[Todd Bertuzzi]

nB4Lz0Wb0MI

[Xiomera]

I posted that last week, Todd. But it's excellent footage.

[Rob S]

I have a feeling some serious **** is going to start happening this week.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Mike is such a great character.

[Rob S]

Walt-Brock is delightfully awkward.

[Brodeur]

Landry Clark is here to save the day.

[Xiomera]

Prediction:


Todd (Landry) is an undercover cop.

[Brodeur]

Jesse knows that Walt needs to die, it's in his eyes.

[yo123]

That last scene was ******* awesome. **** is about to get real.

[Xiomera]

Jesse knows that Walt needs to die, it's in his eyes.

Yep. It's gonna be great to see the duel play out between them before all is said and done.

Walt's hubris is at threat level midnight.

[yo123]

Jesse knows that Walt needs to die, it's in his eyes.

I hope Jesse turns on him. Walt doesn't have any redeeming scenes at all anymore. Just straight manipulation from beginning to end.

[hobbes2053]

Jesse is beginning to figure out the depth of Walt's dark side and I'm straight giddy to see it all unravel before show's end.

[Xiomera]

I hope Jesse turns on him. Walt doesn't have any redeeming scenes at all anymore. Just straight manipulation from beginning to end.

Jesse is beginning to figure out the depth of Walt's dark side and I'm straight giddy to see it all unravel before show's end.

The major thing to remember is that Jesse is quickly reaching this conclusion about Walt and he doesn't even know about Walt's involvement Jane's death or Brock's poisoning.

[hobbes2053]

The major thing to remember is that Jesse is quickly reaching this conclusion about Walt and he doesn't even know about Walt's involvement Jane's death or Brock's poisoning.

Are you saying that Jesse will kill Walt?

[yo123]

The major thing to remember is that Jesse is quickly reaching this conclusion about Walt and he doesn't even know about Walt's involvement Jane's death or Brock's poisoning.

You think there's still a chance Jane will come up? I think they wrapped up that storyline in the fly episode.

And this might be a stupid question but what is Walt's motivation for telling Jesse to tell Andrea everything? How did he know for sure he would break it off?

[Xiomera]

Are you saying that Jesse will kill Walt?

I'm leaning that way, but we can obviously expect another half dozen twists.

[TACKLE]

At this point, for all the twists that will ensue, I still can't really foresee a scenario where Walt doesn't end up dead or in jail by series end.

edit - I forgot about the opening scene of this season. Still, it's hard to see a way out for Walt.

[yo123]

You think there's still a chance Jane will come up? I think they wrapped up that storyline in the fly episode.

And this might be a stupid question but what is Walt's motivation for telling Jesse to tell Andrea everything? How did he know for sure he would break it off?

And speaking of the fly episode, someone on reddit brought up that it's weird that Walt is willing to cook in an environment filled with pests when he was making such a big deal over a single fly. I'm usually more open to overlooking things like that than most but it's an interesting thought.

[Xiomera]

You think there's still a chance Jane will come up? I think they wrapped up that storyline in the fly episode.

And this might be a stupid question but what is Walt's motivation for telling Jesse to tell Andrea everything? How did he know for sure he would break it off?

No, I've never believed Jesse would find out about Jane. And prior to the season I thought there was no chance he'd find out Walt poisoned Brock. But they've kept that possibility in the foreground, so I'd say odds are decent Jesse eventually figures it out. Perhaps Saul will tell him. It's obvious he would side with Jesse if he split from Walt.

[Brodeur]

And this might be a stupid question but what is Walt's motivation for telling Jesse to tell Andrea everything? How did he know for sure he would break it off?

Because Walt is a selfish bastard, and he wants to crumble what Jesse has by bringing him down to his level.

[yo123]

Because Walt is a selfish bastard, and he wants to crumble what Jesse has by bringing him down to his level.

I realize that it was in Walt's best interest for them to break up, but how was he so positive they would? What if Jesse would have taken Walt's "advice" and told her everything?

[Xiomera]

And speaking of the fly episode, someone on reddit brought up that it's weird that Walt is willing to cook in an environment filled with pests when he was making such a big deal over a single fly. I'm usually more open to overlooking things like that than most but it's an interesting thought.

It'll probably come up. When they came out of one of the commercial breaks, the camera opened on a close-up of a bug crawling on a table or wall in the house. No shot is accidental. It's probably foreshadowing complications with this fumigated house arrangement. It's too complicated to work consistently and the fact that it was Walt's idea means he'll be arrogantly confident that it's a flawless plan.

[hobbes2053]

It'll probably come up. When they came out of one of the commercial breaks, the camera opened on a close-up of a bug crawling on a table or wall in the house. No shot is accidental. It's probably foreshadowing complications with this fumigated house arrangement. It's too complicated to work consistently and the fact that it was Walt's idea means he'll be arrogantly confident that it's a flawless plan.

I thought about that as well in that the tented area will not be fumigated and could potentially leave some bugs. Especially since the homeowner asked if they would "get all of them."

Also, I don't know why I only made this realization now, but Hank's rehab was paid for with meth money. Just something that I simply glanced over.

[Brodeur]

I realize that it was in Walt's best interest for them to break up, but how was he so positive they would? What if Jesse would have taken Walt's "advice" and told her everything?

Walt knows Jesse better than that, and he was manipulating him.

[TACKLE]

Walt knows Jesse better than that, and he was manipulating him.

Obviously Jesse has grown and progressed throughout the show but deep down Walt knows that he's still just a scared kid who's just trying not to be a **** up.

[Xiomera]

How have we not mentioned the triumphant return of Skinny Peter and Brandon aka "Badger?"

Best scene ever

[yo123]

I was just about to bring that up. Who would have guessed Skinny Pete is a modern day Mozart?

[TACKLE]

Speaking of scenes that need to be mentioned, the cook scene was quite very awesome.

[Xiomera]

Speaking of scenes that need to be mentioned, the cook scene was quite very awesome.

Another brilliant music montage. Gilligan and his cinematographers are god damn masterminds of them.

[Brodeur]

I was just about to bring that up. Who would have guessed Skinny Pete is a modern day Mozart?

Badger, on the other hand, is pretty horrid at playing guitar.

[TACKLE]

Badger, on the other hand, is pretty horrid at playing guitar.

When you can spin a giant arrow like he can, you can talk.


One little thing that kinda bugged was how very unsubtle their movie selection was.

[hobbes2053]

When do Skyler and Marie die?

[Brodeur]

When you can spin a giant arrow like he can, you can talk.


One little thing that kinda bugged was how very unsubtle their movie selection was.

It was a cross promotion for AMC showing Scarface this week, plus the whole "everybody dies" thing was a shout out.

[cunningham06]

Speaking of scenes that need to be mentioned, the cook scene was quite very awesome.

That cook scene and the distribution scene with Badger, Skinny Pete, and Combo in season 2 are some of my favorites in this series. The music and pacing of those scenes is fantastic.

[TACKLE]

plus the whole "everybody dies" thing was a shout out.

to what? ten

[Brodeur]

to what? ten

Skyler realizing that everybody could die in her circumstance.

[yo123]

Anna Gunn is seriously really good at playing a terrified, trapped, depressed wife of a drug lord.

[TACKLE]

Skyler realizing that everybody could die in her circumstance.

(that's not really a 'shout out' but...) Yes, I along with everyone who watched the episode instantly knew that. Not hating, just thought that scene was a little heavy handed.

[Brodeur]

(that's not really a 'shout out' but...) Yes, I along with everyone who watched the episode instantly knew that. Not hating, just thought that scene was a little heavy handed.

Shut the **** up TACKLE.

[Cigaro]

What are the opinions of Walt here? Am I the only person who really hates him?

[Xiomera]

What are the opinions of Walt here? Am I the only person who really hates him?

Of course not. If you don't hate him, then Vince Gilligan didn't do his job.

He did a switcheroo with Jesse and Walt over the long haul that's absolutely brilliant.

[yo123]

What are the opinions of Walt here? Am I the only person who really hates him?

I think everyone with a conscience hated Walt a while ago. He's definitely supposed to be hated by now.

[Cigaro]

OK good. I only began watching the series this summer and just a week ago caught up with everything, so I haven't really posted in this thread too much. But I kind of thought that there would be a cult of personality around Walt.

[Bert Macklin]

I wish skylar would kill herself.

[TACKLE]

What are the opinions of Walt here? Am I the only person who really hates him?

I'm a sucker for sticking with the anti-hero to the end no matter what they do whether that be Tony Soprano, Don Draper, Vic Mackey, etc. I will say, it is getting awfully tough to still want the best for Walt. There's still a part of me that wants to see him turn things around but he's gone all in and any redeeming qualities 'good guy' qualities he had died with Gus Fring. I'm still not ready to hate him quite yet.

[Brodeur]

I'm a sucker for sticking with the anti-hero to the end no matter what they do whether that be Tony Soprano, Don Draper, Vic Mackey, etc. I will say, it is getting awfully tough to still want the best for Walt. There's still a part of me that wants to see him turn things around but he's gone all in and any redeeming qualities 'good guy' qualities he had died with Gus Fring. I'm still not ready to hate him quite yet.

Don Draper is hardly a person to place in the same manner as these three.

[yo123]

I wish skylar would kill herself.

Why? You can make the argument she was a little impatient with Walt early in the series but what is she doing wrong now exactly?

[TACKLE]

Don Draper is hardly a person to place in the same manner as these three.

Tis true I guess. He's more of a true anti-hero than an anti-hero-turned-villain like the others. Still, there are certainly still people out there who hate Don. Was trying to think of dominant TV anti-heroes though I could have probably come up with more examples from movies.

[Brodeur]

Why? You can make the argument she was a little impatient with Walt early in the series but what is she doing wrong now exactly?

Clearly she should fully embrace her psychopathic and homicidal husband who she is terrified of.

[Bert Macklin]

Why? You can make the argument she was a little impatient with Walt early in the series but what is she doing wrong now exactly?

Acting Canadian.

[MetSox17]

Skylar just needs to get used to the spousal rape and keeping her mouth shut.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Walt is the best villain I have ever seen portrayed on television. Just so evil, manipulative, and power hungry. Brian Cranston should win a lifetime achievement award for his performance. I have faith I will be satisfied with the ending just based on how great the show has been to this point. I have watched a lot of tv shows, Breaking Bad is my favorite.

[WMD]

Yeah, the best villains don't actually think they are villains. Walt is very unlikeable now.

[Splat]

"Just because you shot Jesse James, don't make you Jesse James."

Walt is all like "I'm a bad ass."

Mike is all like "Child Please."

:cj:

[Brothgar]

I just hope this series doesn't go Dexter after this season.

[thule]

It'll probably come up. When they came out of one of the commercial breaks, the camera opened on a close-up of a bug crawling on a table or wall in the house. No shot is accidental. It's probably foreshadowing complications with this fumigated house arrangement. It's too complicated to work consistently and the fact that it was Walt's idea means he'll be arrogantly confident that it's a flawless plan.

I am also with you on the foreshadowing with the bug crawling.

To me a bug signifies Walt getting setup. I felt like Mike might be setting Walt up. But not sure how likely that is at this point since they've been doing such a good job of showing us Mike's side of the story now. Might just be hiding the backstory.

[Xiomera]

I am also with you on the foreshadowing with the bug crawling.

To me a bug signifies Walt getting setup. I felt like Mike might be setting Walt up. But not sure how likely that is at this point since they've been doing such a good job of showing us Mike's side of the story now. Might just be hiding the backstory.

I love the power struggle. I hope Jesse ends up on top, haha


I kinda like the idea that Mike is trying to knock Walt down a few pegs. It's probably true.

My theory is that this new Todd character is an undercover cop. The fact that this crew, led by Ira, is a known group of thieves makes their operation risky. I'm a little surprised that both Walt AND Mike agreed to this arrangement.

[Xiomera]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7z1jowI8H1qhg13lo1_500.gif

[Cigaro]

"Just because you shot Jesse James, don't make you Jesse James."

Walt is all like "I'm a bad ass."

Mike is all like "Child Please."

:cj:

This is basically why I don't like Walt. I don't mind all the evil **** he has done. But Walt doesn't know his place in the world. Often enough, he wants to be Captain Badass, trying to interfere in matters he has no expertise(the money scene for example) and advocating dramatic and brutal solutions to problems. Then he'll revert back to being a weak and pathetic family man who advocates peace and his non-involvement in matters outside the actual cooking. An example of this sort of routine personality change of his is when Jesse gets robbed by the methhead couple on the streets. One day, Walt is telling Jesse to be a man and go murder the two. The very next day, he doesn't want that at all, now saying all he wanted to do was scare them. I absolutely hate that in people. If he wants to be a tough badass, then be one. If not, then stop acting like it half of the time. He needs to learn his place in the world.

(Do we actually need spoiler tags in a thread clearly indicated for containing spoilers? Anyways, spoilers ahead if so) As for Mike setting up Walt, I just don't see it. That does not benefit him in anyway, and Mike is too professional to let any personal dislike of Walt influence his decision making that much. Clearly though, something is going to go wrong. The fact that they leave their entire setup in the house when they actually bug the house to me seems like it will cause problems.

I also kind of think the laser tag will somehow return once again. Having a scene where they drive to it yet immediately dismiss it indicates there is perhaps more to it than that. A simple suggestion by Saul, who appeared to be completely aware that they would shoot it down, concerning the laser tag would have sufficed, instead of driving all of the way to it and then letting them shoot it down. I just feel it was included to jog our memory for a reason yet to have been revealed.

[Bulldogs]

Saul loves him some laser tag.

[wojo]

i can tell right now that something is going to go very wrong with using houses as their place to cook. its funny because i was thinking some people have cameras in their houses and then todd said that he disabled their nanny cam. for some reason i don't believe him. cooking in houses is something the old walt never would have risked.

i feel like skylar is going to be a problem this season. getting her involved in the operation was a terrible mistake on walts part because she clearly can't handle stress. the shrader family is clearly catching on and i won't be surprised when skylar says something to tip marie off.

walt's still my favorite character, i dont care what yall say. i guess i just like rooting for the bad guy.

edit:

also, i thought it was funny that jesse and walt were watching the three stooges when they were discussing jesse's relationship. clearly a sign that walt, jesse, and mike have made a big mistake.

[Cigaro]

i can tell right now that something is going to go very wrong with using houses as their place to cook. its funny because i was thinking some people have cameras in their houses and then todd said that he disabled their nanny cam. for some reason i don't believe him. cooking in houses is something the old walt never would have risked.

i feel like skylar is going to be a problem this season. getting her involved in the operation was a terrible mistake on walts part because she clearly can't handle stress. the shrader family is clearly catching on and i won't be surprised when skylar says something to tip marie off.

walt's still my favorite character, i dont care what yall say. i guess i just like rooting for the bad guy.

edit:

also, i thought it was funny that jesse and walt were watching the three stooges when they were discussing jesse's relationship. clearly a sign that walt, jesse, and mike have made a big mistake.

The whole idea of transporting a meth lab every week and cooking in random, unknown houses is idiotic from the start. But Todd stepping out and telling them that, plus us actually learning Todd's name, may indeed indicate he has a further role to play. I can't see in anyway it is a setup on Mike or Saul's end, and more than likely the head guy is legit as well, but who knows with the rest of them.

We have been kept in the know with the DEA because of Hank, so we would likely learn pretty quickly whether that angle is coming into play.

[Bert Macklin]

I forgot to post this yesterday.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7250/imagevrkc.jpg

[wojo]

its pretty obvious that some users here browse the breaking bad subreddit

[FlyingElvis]

The roach and the nanny-cam definitely strike me as foreshadowing. The nanny-cam alone seems like it'd be severely suspicious simply by being disabled. That should have been a clear-cut "walk away" instance. How exactly would a homeowner not be immediately suspicious when they realized that afterwards?

[Smooth Criminal]

The roach and the nanny-cam definitely strike me as foreshadowing. The nanny-cam alone seems like it'd be severely suspicious simply by being disabled. That should have been a clear-cut "walk away" instance. How exactly would a homeowner not be immediately suspicious when they realized that afterwards?

That's the first thing I thought as well. Wouldn't they be extremely suspicious if they were paranoid enough to have a nanny cam and then found it was disabled when other people were in the house? But I guess if they found that nothing was missing they would drop it and their first suspicion wouldn't be that they must have cooked meth in the house.

[FlyingElvis]

That's the first thing I thought as well. Wouldn't they be extremely suspicious if they were paranoid enough to have a nanny cam and then found it was disabled when other people were in the house? But I guess if they found that nothing was missing they would drop it and their first suspicion wouldn't be that they must have cooked meth in the house.

There certainly wouldn't be a jump to meth, but enough suspicion to perhaps look into it and find the pest control company is chock full of thieves.

With all the "planning" Walt does, I'm certain this will be a reference point later.

[Smooth Criminal]

There certainly wouldn't be a jump to meth, but enough suspicion to perhaps look into it and find the pest control company is chock full of thieves.

With all the "planning" Walt does, I'm certain this will be a reference point later.

If they called the police and said their cam was disabled but they had nothing else to report, I'm not sure how far it would go.

But this is breaking bad so you know it will go somewhere.

[FlyingElvis]

If they called the police and said their cam was disabled but they had nothing else to report, I'm not sure how far it would go.

But this is breaking bad so you know it will go somewhere.

I agree. It's more a point of not walking away. Any potential for a homeowner asking questions should be a walk-away scenario. I think it's going to be a case of video evidence later for the cam they didn't/don't find in a home.

[Smooth Criminal]

That could be too.

And I think the scene at the arcade was supposed to be a little comedic relief more than any hint of its relevance in the future.

[Bert Macklin]

its pretty obvious that some users here browse the breaking bad subreddit

Why you bitching?

[MetSox17]

And I think the scene at the arcade was supposed to be a little comedic relief more than any hint of its relevance in the future.

This. Honestly i feel the same about the roach running around the couch. I don't think it was as much foreshadowing as it just being a god damn cockroach running around while they work. But that's just me.

[Bert Macklin]

I also think if Mike wanted to start a hazard fund for his guys it should come out of his cut not Jesse and Walts.

[yo123]

Mike didn't even want to be a part of the group. Walt pushed him into it and he's benefiting just as much from paying these guys.

Also its Mike and he can do whatever the **** he wants.

[MetSox17]

Yeah, honestly that's why i figured Mike had spared that *****'s life. After his DEA meeting, he realized they were right, and that one of them would eventually flip if they didn't have their money. So once he went back in with Walt, my assumption was that he was gonna do it mostly to cover his ass and his guys. Kinda dick that he's making Walt & Jesse cover as well but i guess it can be sort of a pay-back type of thing for them killing Gus, and Mike has all the leverage. Without him they're just cooks.

[Jvig43]

I also have been thinking that opening scene in season 2, of the song about Walt being killed by the cartel and that hes a dead man and he doesn't know it yet, while also showing his dead body surrounded by a bunch of bullets could be a pretty big foreshadowing to how Walt goes out. I mean it really wouldn't make sense for Walt to be buying an automatic to fight the DEA, thats not a winnable battle. But against the Cartel it would be more likely and with the scene of him watching scarface in this last episode I feel pretty confident that theyve already alluded to how Walt is going to go, and I feel that scene may be getting a little underlooked at.

Also rewatching season 3 with the girl the other day and loved how in the episode before Ted breaks his neck it shows him slightly tripping over the same rug while going to answer the door.

[Xiomera]

This. Honestly i feel the same about the roach running around the couch. I don't think it was as much foreshadowing as it just being a god damn cockroach running around while they work. But that's just me.

Foreshadowing might not be the right word. The roach is a symbol of future contamination aka something going wrong.

[MetSox17]

Also rewatching season 3 with the girl the other day and loved how in the episode before Ted breaks his neck it shows him slightly tripping over the same rug while going to answer the door.
That's season 4, but yeah, they made sure you knew he was gonna trip on that again later.

Foreshadowing might not be the right word. The roach is a symbol of future contamination aka something going wrong.

Maybe. But i really think that's just reaching. The series is gonna be over, of course there will be something that goes wrong later. I don't think that his purpose for the roach there was to symbolize their downfall later. I think it was just a roach.

[Xiomera]

You're underestimating Vince Gilligan if you think anything in this show is done just because. It's a symbol, it's foreshadowing, it's something. They don't waste time and space in this show.

[fenikz]

im sure there are 300 hundred things that have happened went unnoticed and didnt have anything to do with the story line

[Xiomera]

im sure there are 300 hundred things that have happened went unnoticed and didnt have anything to do with the story line

I'm just arguing there's a purpose to the shot. I think it's symbolic.

I don't see why this is being made such a big deal.

[Smooth Criminal]

I don't think it's any deal at all. I think it was just supposed to be funny after the analyzed the first few places and they all just immediately shoot down the arcade idea.

[MetSox17]

I'm just arguing there's a purpose to the shot. I think it's symbolic.

I don't see why this is being made such a big deal.

It isn't, you're the one that keeps replying with "EVERYTHING MEANS SOMETHING". A few of us are just stating differently.

[Smooth Criminal]

And if you want the roach to symbolize something so simple as "things are going to go wrong" well no ****. It's breaking bad, how much fun would it be if things went perfect. We don't need symbols or clues to know things arnt going to go well.

[WMD]

Laser Tag was just a gag, but the Roach means something. I suspect Walt is very afraid of roaches, and he'll see it and scream and trip over his own foot running away, falling into their equipment and destroying everything. After giving up on Meth for good, Walt then turns to the "*** for pay" route to make money. Hank finds out that Walt does *** porn and kills himself.

[Xiomera]

It isn't, you're the one that keeps replying with "EVERYTHING MEANS SOMETHING". A few of us are just stating differently.

Come on man, I don't literally mean every single item on the set means something, but when they come out of a commercial break and let the camera linger on something like that, it's pretty easy to know to read into it and perhaps not take it at face value.

[comahan]

I just assumed it was cinematic effect, while also a little reminder that theyre using a fumigation deal as their cover.

[Xiomera]

I just assumed it was cinematic effect, while also a little reminder that theyre using a fumigation deal as their cover.

And likely a call-back to that time when, you know, they spent an entire goddamn episode chasing a fly. It's supposed to get your mind thinking of things like that.

[comahan]

Well theyre in a uh, tent... thing... to keep those out!

[Xiomera]

Well theyre in a uh, tent... thing... to keep those out!

I wasn't suggesting a literal "bug in the batch" contamination. I viewed it as a visual metaphor for the threat of "contamination" in their new business venture, lurking just outside.

[TACKLE]

How many shots in a given episode could be interpreted as an allusion to a future problem? Setting the stage for future problems and conflict has pretty much been the function of this season so far.

[Xiomera]

Sigh. Now you guys just want to argue. I've made my point.

[TACKLE]

Sigh. Now you guys just want to argue. I've made my point.

I'd like to apologize on behalf of us all for questioning your vague, general prediction that is based on very small, specific detail.

[Xiomera]

I'd like to apologize on behalf of us all for questioning your vague, general prediction that is based on very small, specific detail.

I didn't make a prediction. I made an observation. I have no idea why you guys keep talking about the roach.

[wojo]

Why you bitching?

im bitching? :confuse:

[Mufasa]

Can someone please tell me what episode this thread starts at. I kind of want to read along as I watch, but don't want to hit any new spoilers for me.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Pretty sure it starts at S3 E1.

[Mufasa]

Thank you sir.

[Brothgar]

XjqYlvUgJQ8

[WMD]

http://www.defectivity.com/fick/comics/20120716.jpg%20-%20Reverse%20Breaking%20Bad

[Rob S]

Skylar ******* with Walt Jr.'s breakfast....

[redbills]

I've never liked that ***** that is skylar.

[yo123]

Now that was a tense scene. Wow.

[Brodeur]

I've never liked that ***** that is skylar.

Yes, somehow she's the ***** in that conversation.

[yo123]

Ugh. If you still don't sympathize with Skylar you're missing the point of the show.

[redbills]

Ugh. If you still don't sympathize with Skylar you're missing the point of the show.

Maybe cuz I am a bad guy like Walt.

[Rob S]

Yeah, I don't really see hating Skylar now.

[Xiomera]

Walt is the villain of the show now and that's just fantastic.

[Brodeur]

Also, Jesse being broken down by two visceral bastards in Mike and Walt is sad. Almost as sad as Skyler taking a piece of bacon from Walt Jr.

[Xiomera]

Mike: "Well, she's gonna die!"

Hahaha, love it.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Great episode. Next week looks like it will appease the people asking for more action and it looks brilliant.

[yo123]

Mike: "Well, she's gonna die!"

Hahaha, love it.

That was awesome. So was Walt Jr. layin down the law about his dad's bacon. Don't **** with him during breakfast time.

[Bixby (Thumper)]

Ugh. If you still don't sympathize with Skylar you're missing the point of the show.

I have zero sympathy for her. She had her shot to get rid of Walt and he was staying away from the children for the most part. Then, she went and got involved with Walt's business and now she can't stand the heat.

[yo123]

Because everyone has perfect judgement immediately after their husband tells them they're a drug kingpin.

And now she has zero options. If she tells the police Hank is ******, and she can't leave because she doesn't want Walt Jr to know about his dad.

[Xiomera]

It's not looking like Walt and Co. are going to get too far down the path to regaining the meth monopoly Gus had going before this series ends. Running out of episodes, and I don't envision the remaining episodes of this season to begin leaping forward a month at a time to get us to flash-forward Walt's 52nd birthday.

But I really like that this season is forcing Walt to deal with the repercussions of killing Gus and not making it too easy for him to gain some of his own glory.

[Cigaro]

I dislike Skylar because I have a problem empathizing with attention-grabbing insanity. She has clear reason to be heavily stressed, but her complete mental breaks with her shutup fiasco and then the pool scene don't endear her to me at all.

Walt is ******* ******** trading in his perfectly fine car for $50 and then leasing the two flashy cars that he did. Yes Walt, that isn't strange at all.

Mike is a boss. That's all I really need to say about that.

[Xiomera]

I can't fathom all the Skyler hate. You're not supposed to like her character, but you should be somewhat sympathetic to her situation.

I'm curious where the Skyler-haters think she strayed from a "correct" path with regard to handling her husband's criminality. I just don't see a point in the series where she could have taken a different route and not have it destroy her family more permanently, thoroughly and publicly.

[Complex]

Skylar is awful was hoping she drowned. This episode was kind of bad.

[yo123]

All of you are so wrong I can't even handle it.

[Brodeur]

Skylar is awful was hoping she drowned. This episode was kind of bad.

.........................sure.

[Complex]

.........................sure.

It was, it had too much Skyler.

[Xiomera]

It was, it had too much Skyler.

Anna Gunn will probably win an Emmy when she submits this episode, but sure ....

[Cigaro]

I can't fathom all the Skyler hate. You're not supposed to like her character, but you should be somewhat sympathetic to her situation.

I'm curious where the Skyler-haters think she strayed from a "correct" path with regard to handling her husband's criminality. I just don't see a point in the series where she could have taken a different route and not have it destroy her family more permanently, thoroughly and publicly.

I am sympathetic to her situation, but not her handling of it. Not necessarily the 'choices' she made, but I have a very hard time sympathizing with recent her mental breakdowns.

[Complex]

Anna Gunn will probably win an Emmy when she submits this episode, but sure ....

Okay? she is still the worst character on the show. It's between her or her sister.

[yo123]

You can make a better argument for her being the best character than the worst one. That's just ****** stupid.

[Brodeur]

It was, it had too much Skyler.

Because she's important to the story the show is trying to make a point of. I thought it was the best episode of the season, and the Skyler/Walt scene in the bedroom was incredible. Then again, I'm being forced to agree with Daniel here and that is entirely uncomfortable.

[Cigaro]

Being a well written character or an actor/actress giving a great performance doesn't mean you have to like the character.

[Brodeur]

I don't see how her breakdowns can't endear a person to her. The "Shut Up" thing was just her completely cracking and losing it after holding it in with Walt for so long. The pool thing was to get them to take the kids for a few days so she could tell Walt the truth, and they could have it out.

[Xiomera]

I am sympathetic to her situation, but not her handling of it. Not necessarily the 'choices' she made, but I have a very hard time sympathizing with recent her mental breakdowns.

Are her mental breakdowns not justified by Walt's actions? I find it to be a completely reasonable response to the revelations about Walt she's had to endure. I'd find the character very unrealistic if she was completely comfortable with Walt's criminal descent and could handle it as coolly as Walt has learned to.

Okay? she is still the worst character on the show. It's between her or her sister.

"Worst" or "most unlikable?" I suppose you can make a case for the latter distinction, but she plays an integral role in the show. Killing her (as many people dream of) would eliminate so much of the show's tension.

[Xiomera]

Because she's important to the story the show is trying to make a point of. I thought it was the best episode of the season, and the Skyler/Walt scene in the bedroom was incredible. Then again, I'm being forced to agree with Daniel here and that is entirely uncomfortable.

You usually agree with me about this show. Accept it. I speak the unvarnished truth and so do you.

[Cigaro]

I don't see how her breakdowns can't endear a person to her. The "Shut Up" thing was just her completely cracking and losing it after holding it in with Walt for so long. The pool thing was to get them to take the kids for a few days so she could tell Walt the truth, and they could have it out.

Are her mental breakdowns not justified by Walt's actions? I find it to be a completely reasonable response to the revelations about Walt she's had to endure. I'd find the character very unrealistic if she was completely comfortable with Walt's criminal descent and could handle it as coolly as Walt has learned to.

Something being realistic does not make it justifiable. So no, her mental breakdowns are not justified by Walt's actions. Of course plenty of people have mental breakdowns under heavily stressful situations. That doesn't mean they are handling their situation correctly, nor does it mean I should sympathize with them. There are other ways of dealing with a situation than having a mental breakdown. I simply have a hard time relating to or sympathizing with characters who deal with their situation by mentally breaking down and doing insane things.

[Xiomera]

What alternative way do you think they should have written her character?

[Cigaro]

What alternative way do you think they should have written her character?

I do not think you are getting it at all. I am not criticizing the writing of her character, I am saying I personally can not sympathize with such characters. If they intend her to be a mentally weak character, there aren't many other options. But that does not mean I am required to therefore sympathize with her.

[TheBoyWonder22]

This was the first episode in which I empathized with Skylar. I probably would have sooner, but she hasn't really voiced her thoughts until tonight. The part I didn't like was how Walt didn't even acknowledge the watch until he was using it for his benefit. Another good episode, ****'s about to hit the fan.

[Xiomera]

I do not think you are getting it at all. I am not criticizing the writing of her character, I am saying I personally can not sympathize with such characters. If they intend her to be a mentally weak character, there aren't many other options. But that does not mean I am required to therefore sympathize with her.

I have a hard time believing you could be sympathetic to anyone if Skyler doesn't fall into that category, haha

[Brodeur]

I do not think you are getting it at all. I am not criticizing the writing of her character, I am saying I personally can not sympathize with such characters. If they intend her to be a mentally weak character, there aren't many other options. But that does not mean I am required to therefore sympathize with her.

http://jspivey.wikispaces.com/file/view/sexism.jpg/142259375/sexism.jpg

[Cigaro]

http://jspivey.wikispaces.com/file/view/sexism.jpg/142259375/sexism.jpg

You can continue with ignorant and baseless accusations if you want, but I have already stated in this thread I do not like Walt for the same exact reason. What now do you care to accuse me of?

[Xiomera]

Skyler is completely fuc ked. She articulated that point completely in tonight's episode, and eventually had to admit to Walt that she was backed into a corner without any way out.

That's worthy of sympathy. Her only option is to wait for Walt to die, which in itself is a horrible solution given that he's her husband (present monster or not).

[Cigaro]

Skyler is completely fuc ked. She articulated that point completely in tonight's episode, and eventually had to admit to Walt that she was backed into a corner without any way out.

That's worthy of sympathy. Her only option is to wait for Walt to die, which in itself is a horrible solution given that he's her husband (present monster or not).

I will repeat, I can sympathize with her situation, but not with her handling of it, at least so far as her mental breakdowns are concerned.

[Xiomera]

I will repeat, I can sympathize with her situation, but not with her handling of it, at least so far as her mental breakdowns are concerned.

Should Skyler's pool stunt be classified as a "mental breakdown" or a calculated, premeditated attempt to get Marie and Hank to take the kids to safety. They laid the groundwork for that in her conversation with Walt about sending Junior to boarding school, and even Marie admitted it was Skyler's idea for them to take the kids.

[Cigaro]

Should Skyler's pool stunt be classified as a "mental breakdown" or a calculated, premeditated attempt to get Marie and Hank to take the kids to safety. They laid the groundwork for that in her conversation with Walt about sending Junior to boarding school, and even Marie admitted it was Skyler's idea for them to take the kids.

The shutup breakdown was clearly a legitimate breakdown, and there were other ways to get the kids out of the house than pulling that stunt.

[yo123]

I just don't understand how you can fault her for having a mental breakdown when weeks ago there was someone coming to her house to kill her entire family. Who is anyone to decide how to react to something like that?

Not to mention that her pool stunt tonight wasn't just a breakdown, it served the purpose of getting Walt Jr. and Holly out of the house.

[Xiomera]

The shutup breakdown was clearly a legitimate breakdown, and there were other ways to get the kids out of the house than pulling that stunt.

Yes, the shut up thing was. But hell, Marie preceded all of that by being her meddling, annoying self. I didn't have a problem with it. It made sense.

And I don't see how you can fault her for her methods of getting the kids out of the house. It worked and she was desperate to shield them from Walt. It also may have garnered Skyler some sympathy from Hank/Marie, who had previously been swung to Walt's side of the feud due to the revelation of her infidelity.

[Brodeur]

The shutup breakdown was clearly a legitimate breakdown, and there were other ways to get the kids out of the house than pulling that stunt.

Not really, especially since Walt had completely manipulated Marie and Hank to thinking him the innocent one in their marriage as she slept with Ted.

[Xiomera]

Cigaro, we can agree to disagree. I just think it's kinda bizarre to be slamming Skyler's mental state. If anyone in the world should be having a mental breakdown, it's someone in her extremely bleak situation. We should all feel fortunate to have never found ourselves in such a hopeless position, haha

[Cigaro]

I just don't understand how you can fault her for having a mental breakdown when weeks ago there was someone coming to her house to kill her entire family. Who is anyone to decide how to react to something like that?

Not to mention that her pool stunt tonight wasn't just a breakdown, it served the purpose of getting Walt Jr. and Holly out of the house.

Yes, the shut up thing was. But hell, Marie preceded all of that by being her meddling, annoying self. I didn't have a problem with it. It made sense.

And I don't see how you can fault her for her methods of getting the kids out of the house. It worked and she was desperate to shield them from Walt. It also may have garnered Skyler some sympathy from Hank/Marie, who had previously been swung to Walt's side of the feud due to the revelation of her infidelity.

Her solution to making people sympathize with her after giving them a very legitimate reason to not sympathize with her is to have a mental breakdown. Yes clearly that is a valid reason why I should sympathize with her.

And it worked? She herself admitted it didn't really. It got them out of the house for a day or two, when they weren't even in danger. There was no endgame to her plan, she admitted as such. If she wanted to use a mental breakdown to facilitate their moving out of the house, why not at least do it the first time around? But why is a mental breakdown even necessary?

[Xiomera]

You think it's completely within her control to not have a mental breakdown?

I won't make any assumptions, but I'm inclined to believe that you've never been in a position quite as dire, bleak, hopeless and dangerous as the one she's in. It's probably a "you'd have to be there to understand" situation.

[Cigaro]

You think it's completely within her control to not have a mental breakdown?

There certainly is no simple answer for this question. No one generally openly and freely decides to have a mental breakdown(ironically though, Skylar somewhat did). But I also don't believe that any and every person in her situation would have reacted the same way in that situation. So yes, and no.

I won't make any assumptions, but I'm inclined to believe that you've never been in a position quite as dire, bleak, hopeless and dangerous as the one she's in. It's probably a "you'd have to be there to understand" situation.

Well you are right, no one in my family is a murdering drug lord. Perhaps I can be somewhat of an insensitive prick when relating to people's mental conditions. But not to sound as if if I am blindly excusing it, that is simply how I view things.

[hawkeye123]

Tying the floss tight around her finger must foreshadow Skyler hanging herself

[Bixby (Thumper)]

Tying the floss tight around her finger must foreshadow Skyler hanging herself

That Ricin is still laying around; Skylar is a guilt induced smoker... And Cranston has said that Walter is all alone in the flash forward to his 52nd birthday. It's only a matter of time before Skylar is offed. How will it be done?

But for as much as I feel uncomfortable watching scenes that have Skylar in them, that pool scene was visually striking. The blonde hair, pale skin, the dead electric blue eyes, white shirt and pool water all complimented each other so perfectly. I couldn't pull my eyes away.

[Bert Macklin]

Tying the floss tight around her finger must foreshadow Skyler hanging herself

Exactly what I thought. Overall weak episode.

[Brodeur]

Exactly what I thought. Overall weak episode.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/When+people+say+vaccines+cause+autism.+you+re+so+w rong_ef1cd5_3767691.jpeg

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Hate to say it but it was a weak episode by the show's standards.

[Bixby (Thumper)]

Prediction:
Walter Jr dies in a car wreck. Walt is completely unhinged at this point and doing whatever the hell he feels like which includes getting Jr a sports car and getting rid of the hand picked, slow rolling, safety machine that Skylar picked out. Why else would they make it a point to show Walt Jr revving the engine and have him talk about speeding? Then Skylar blames Walt for Jr's death and Walt goes full Heisenburg and kills her in some way that leads to him having to flee.

[Brodeur]

Hate to say it but it was a weak episode by the show's standards.

I completely disagree, it was a complete breaking point for Skyler and probably her finest episode yet, while establishing the closeness of Jesse/Walt even more and continued to show the fact that eventually, things will crumble . I don't think the show has had a weak episode since early season two, if it ever has.

Prediction:
Walter Jr dies in a car wreck. Walt is completely unhinged at this point and doing whatever the hell he feels like which includes getting Jr a sports car and getting rid of the hand picked, slow rolling, safety machine that Skylar picked out. Why else would they make it a point to show Walt Jr revving the engine and have him talk about speeding? Then Skylar blames Walt for Jr's death and Walt goes full Heisenburg and kills her in some way that leads to him having to flee.

Yeah, that's way too ridiculous.

[Bixby (Thumper)]

Hate to say it but it was a weak episode by the show's standards.

You saw Walt go into full Heisenberg mode. His demeanor changed, the way he talked changed a bit, the selling of the car for $50, the leasing of two sports cars, the "nothing is stopping this train", the Heisenburg hat, the mirror shot and then finally the ticking watch at the end (anyone remember when Mike called him a ticking bomb [or something like that]?). I think this episode will be huge moving forward.

[Bixby (Thumper)]

Yeah, that's way too ridiculous.

... Why? I like my prediction. :crying:

[wojo]

**** that dubstep scene

[Xiomera]

I thought the episode was brilliant. I don't know what some of you are looking for in a supposedly "good" episode of Breaking Bad. Last night's episode was full of great scenes. The Walt/Skyler confrontation scene was one of the best that's ever been written. This episode set the tone for the rest of the season (series?).

[Hurricanes25]

I thought it was a great episode. It may not have had plenty of action but I feel it's the episode that sets up the rest of the series. Walt is about to go on a power trip and when he does, **** is going to hit the fan.

[Cigaro]

Prediction:
Walter Jr dies in a car wreck. Walt is completely unhinged at this point and doing whatever the hell he feels like which includes getting Jr a sports car and getting rid of the hand picked, slow rolling, safety machine that Skylar picked out. Why else would they make it a point to show Walt Jr revving the engine and have him talk about speeding? Then Skylar blames Walt for Jr's death and Walt goes full Heisenburg and kills her in some way that leads to him having to flee.

I can agree with the bolded, after that a lot more questionable for me. We have seen the driving scenes were Walt Jr is driving two-footed and is corrected by Walt a number of times, but the last time we saw it was with Walt ultimately allowing it to be done. It could just be symbolism about doing something the wrong way to accomplish an end point, or it could imply that the two-footedness while driving will play an impact in the season.

[Xiomera]

I could envision a scenario in which 52nd birthday flash-forward Walt has lost Skyler (probably by murdering her) and Walter, Jr. (as collateral damage or in an accident) and stuck the baby with aunt Marie before getting out of Dodge (as Mike would say).

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Small BB tidbit in a recently Cranston interview.

For fans of Breaking Bad, Cranston told me, “episode 5 of the fifth season is the biggest episode we’ve ever done as far as scope and cost.”

Can't wait.

http://collider.com/bryan-cranston-lincoln-lawyer-2-sequel-total-recall-interview/185913/

[jrdrylie]

That Ricin is still laying around; Skylar is a guilt induced smoker... And Cranston has said that Walter is all alone in the flash forward to his 52nd birthday. It's only a matter of time before Skylar is offed. How will it be done?

But for as much as I feel uncomfortable watching scenes that have Skylar in them, that pool scene was visually striking. The blonde hair, pale skin, the dead electric blue eyes, white shirt and pool water all complimented each other so perfectly. I couldn't pull my eyes away.

I may be wrong, but didn't Walt flush the Ricin-laced cigarette?

[Bixby (Thumper)]

I may be wrong, but didn't Walt flush the Ricin-laced cigarette?

No, he hid the Ricin on the back of an outlet cover. The Ricin is still around. Kept the Ricin, flushed the cigarette.

[jrdrylie]

No, he hid the Ricin on the back of an outlet cover. The Ricin is still around. Kept the Ricin, flushed the cigarette.

That's right. Thanks.

[Xiomera]

I may be wrong, but didn't Walt flush the Ricin-laced cigarette?

He flushed a fake vial of ricin he created to deceive Jesse. It was full of table salt. It's all in the opening episode of the season. Huell lifted the ricin cigarette off Jesse last season.

[WMD]

Best episode of the season. Anybody think Lydia was recording Jesse? It would make sense, since she made sure he said Mike's whole name before she did anything. At first I figured she was just being extra cautious, but I don't know. I could see her helping the DEA to save herself.

[Vikes99ej]

Walt is a monster now and Skylar is just one of his casualties. When she said it was a bad plan you could see just how scared and helpless she really is. Another amazing episode. This season has been 10/10 so far. I don't know if another show has made me as anxious and distraught as this show has.

[Xiomera]

Best episode of the season. Anybody think Lydia was recording Jesse? It would make sense, since she made sure he said Mike's whole name before she did anything. At first I figured she was just being extra cautious, but I don't know. I could see her helping the DEA to save herself.

It's possible she was wired, but I like that outcome a lot less. By doing so, she'd be putting herself right back in danger of getting killed by Mike (which, incidentally, she did anyways).

[yo123]

Lydia is the one part of this season I haven't liked. Her nervous, jumpy act has been pretty tired since the beginning and it's been clear she's not going to last long. Just kill her off.

[Xiomera]

There's more to Lydia than we've seen. Mike alluded to it in his final conversation with Jesse and Walt last night. That's what he gets for being sexist, after all, haha

[Vikes99ej]

Small BB tidbit in a recently Cranston interview.



Can't wait.

http://collider.com/bryan-cranston-lincoln-lawyer-2-sequel-total-recall-interview/185913/

Looks like I'm staying off the internet until Sunday!

[Vikes99ej]

Don't forget, we're also supposed to see more of Todd (Jesse Plemons), who was touted as an important character coming into the season. I wonder what they have in store for him.

[TACKLE]

It wasn't as purely entertaining as some of the other episodes (and the dubstep car montage was a little silly) but it was probably the strongest of the season thus far.

I've now come to terms that I'm 'rooting' for the villain in this show so I know that skews my perception on this a little. Not saying she doesn't deserve any, but I agree with Cigaro that I'm having a hard time giving sympathy to Skylar. Her 'mental breakdown' in the pool wasn't really that at all as we found out later. It was a poorly thought out, manipulative ploy that was intended to essentially hurt Walt. Skylar's distress and feelings of being trapped are certainly justified. Though I do think because Walt has become a more and more dominating presence, we kinda forget that Skylar herself is a super controlling figure herself. She claims her actions/future plans are done in the name of her and the families safety which is true to an extent, but I think her desire for control. I know Walt has backed her into a lose-lose situation and she sees no way out of it and I very much understand why people are being pushed farther and farther from Walt and are becoming more and more sympathetic towards Skylar. Despite her circumstance, I personally just have a hard time sympathizing with weak, manipulative characters (*people).

[nepg]

The season started out slow and weak. It was definitely a catalyst for things to get going. At least, it better be. I ******* hate that hat so much. It's such a terrible hat.

[TheBoyWonder22]

The season started out slow and weak. It was definitely a catalyst for things to get going. At least, it better be. I ******* hate that hat so much. It's such a terrible hat.
Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up.

[Splat]

The season started out slow and weak.

False.....

[Jvig43]

The season started out slow and weak. It was definitely a catalyst for things to get going. At least, it better be. I ******* hate that hat so much. It's such a terrible hat.

Well to be fair to Breaking Bad, it is just a rip off of Dexter after all.........

[Vikes99ej]

If people are complaining about this weeks episode, I'd hate to see what they were saying after "Hazard Pay". That was the only episode of the season so far I would consider slow.

[Brothgar]

Is it just me or is there way too much foreshadowing symbolism in this series.

[Xiomera]

Is it just me or is there way too much foreshadowing symbolism in this series.

Too much? That's kind of a weird complaint.

[Brothgar]

Too much? That's kind of a weird complaint.

Well there isn't much to complain about but it takes away from most of the surprise of the show. The first two seasons it was good but now they kind of beat you over the head with it.

[Vikes99ej]

Well there isn't much to complain about but it takes away from most of the surprise of the show. The first two seasons it was good but now they kind of beat you over the head with it.

Oh yeah, just like the whole pink teddy bear and bodies coming out of Walts house thing in season two.

[crisco0710]

Prediction on how the show ends:


Since foreshadowing has been playing such a huge role in the show, I think that Skyler mentioning that the only thing she is waiting for is the cancer to come back and kill Walt is foreshadowing how the show will end.

[Xiomera]

That's the least interesting possible outcome, crisco. I think he'll meet his end in a far more interesting manner.

[fenikz]

Walt is obviously going to go out Tony Montana style

...or maybe Walr Jr will :o

[Bixby (Thumper)]

Walt is obviously going to go out Tony Montana style

...or maybe Walr Jr will :o

From the start Vince has said he wants to capture Walter's transformation into a Tony Montana style king pin.

[Cigaro]

He's going to OD on his own stuff, duh.

[Docta]

I think we're all overlooking the Ratatouille reference.

For those who have never watched Ratatouille, he's a rat...that cooks. Why did Walt suspiciously look at the watch that Jesse gave him?

[Bixby (Thumper)]

The Ratatouille reference is lost on me at this point. I have no idea what it means. I know that the entire movie's message is "anyone can cook" but I can't see where they're going with it. Best I can make of it is that Walt gets kicked out of his own organization because he's a "ticking timebomb" (watch) and "anyone can cook".

Walt's life is about to come crashing down. Hard.

[TACKLE]

Walt is obviously going to go out Tony Montana style

He's going to OD on his own stuff, duh.

I do kinda wanna see Walt get high on his own supply.

[TheBoyWonder22]

I don't think the foreshadowing is any more prevalent now than in seasons past. I think it's just because we're this far in the series, we've seen examples and naturally try to predict the future based on what has happened previously. I'm trying not to do it this season because obsessing over every detail really saps the enjoyment of being surprised.

Maybe we all need to just take a deep breath haha.

[fenikz]

i was just kidding :p

[Brodeur]

The season started out slow and weak. It was definitely a catalyst for things to get going. At least, it better be. I ******* hate that hat so much. It's such a terrible hat.

Go **** yourself and get the **** out of this thread, you piece of ****.

[Bixby (Thumper)]

Go **** yourself and get the **** out of this thread, you piece of ****.

Does his hat qualify as a fedora? I think so and I also think that fedoras blow.

[Brodeur]

Does his hat qualify as a fedora? I think so and I also think that fedoras blow.

http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu56/MightyCats/theres-the-door.jpg

[TheBoyWonder22]

Don't worry Brody, I already went Skylar on his ass.

[TACKLE]

Don't worry Brody, I already went Skylar on his ass.

So you made a futile effort to stop him but he still walked all over you? :P

[TheBoyWonder22]

Haha, he's clearly Marie. Not cool enough to be Walt. Plus, I was anything but subtle.

[Jvig43]

So you just shouted shut up at him?

[JoeJoeBrown]

Skylar is the most worthless character ever.

[Xiomera]

Skylar is the most worthless character ever.

Care to elaborate?

What constitutes as value for a TV character? I think Skyler plays a very necessary and critical role on the show.

[hawkeye123]

Anna Gunn has done a fantastic job, even though she looks like a man.

[Jvig43]

Look I hate skylar through the season 1-2 and half way through 3. But it really is hard not to sympathize for her at this point, and that episode was great for really showing how much she is struggling with everything and trying to keep her children safe. Walt is totally 100% the bad guy now, and I realize thats strange to have for a protagonist ( I think its ******* awesome) but seriously at this point Skylar is certainly a character deserving of our sympathy. She may have been a poor character to start with but right now shes alot better.

[Xiomera]

Vince Gilligan is gonna be on Conan as his second guest very shortly here ...

[redbills]

Skylar is the most worthless character ever.

No, while I don't like her....

http://albinoalien.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tumblr_m151ujlKxx1qasthro1_400.jpg

[vidae]

I'd rather keep Carl if it means Lori is dead.

[redbills]

I'd rather keep Carl if it means Lori is dead.

True, 1 of those dead is fine by me.

[Brodeur]

I'd rather keep Carl if it means Lori is dead.

At least Skyler has a reason for her emotions, and is a three dimensional character. Lori is a worthless *****.

[nepg]

They're both two-timing whores. At least Lori thought Grimes was dead and trusts her husband to make the right call. Skylar's just a ****.

[Brodeur]

They're both two-timing whores. At least Lori thought Grimes was dead and trusts her husband to make the right call. Skylar's just a ****.

You mean the same Lori that lets her child run off all the time, has absolutely no depth, is written horribly, asked her husband to kill a man and then gets pissed when he actually does kill him in self defense? Please, don't ever insinuate that they are even remotely close to each other. Skyler had reasons for doing what she's done, and is very well acted and written.

[Splat]

They're both two-timing whores. At least Lori thought Grimes was dead and trusts her husband to make the right call. Skylar's just a ****.

Skylar's husband kills people and sells drugs for a living, why should she trust him to make the right call?

[nepg]

Skylar's husband kills people and sells drugs for a living, why should she trust him to make the right call?
Because she made herself involved in it. She's just a ****.

[Xiomera]

Because she made herself involved in it. She's just a ****.

You guys are completely irrational about Skyler's character. It's like Aaron Sorkin is writing your comments for you!

[nepg]

You guys are completely irrational about Skyler's character. It's like Aaron Sorkin is writing your comments for you!
She's a ****. End of story.

[Brodeur]

Because she made herself involved in it. She's just a ****.

He did it as a means to try and help him, she didn't realize how deep and how ****** he really was until the end of last season in terms of how far he had gone.

[Xiomera]

She's a ****. End of story.

Let the kind doctors prescribe you some meds.

[JoeJoeBrown]

He did it as a means to try and help him, she didn't realize how deep and how ****** he really was until the end of last season in terms of how far he had gone.

She was a worthless ***** from the beginning.

Always complaining, always helpless. Cheated on her dying husband in response to him trying to bring in money for the family. The number moral standard for a parent should be to provide for their family. She didn't understand that, and would rather beg for handouts. The moral line between the law of the land and the law of human nature isn't that vague and she is too stupid to understand that.

Walt has turned into an evil man, but at that time, he wasn't. Her stupid slutty selfishness helped pushed him towards being a callous killer.

You seem to love terrible, one dimensional female characters.

[Brodeur]

She was a worthless ***** from the beginning.

Always complaining, always helpless. Cheated on her dying husband in response to him trying to bring in money for the family. The number moral standard for a parent should be to provide for their family. She didn't understand that, and would rather beg for handouts. The moral line between the law of the land and the law of human nature isn't that vague and she is too stupid to understand that.

Walt has turned into an evil man, but at that time, he wasn't. Her stupid slutty selfishness helped pushed him towards being a callous killer.

You seem to love terrible, one dimensional female characters.

You seem to be incredibly sexist and completely not understanding of everything she's done. In the first season, she begged her husband to get chemotherapy because she was terrified of having to raise a new born on her own, especially since she hadn't been able to achieve a stable income even before then. In season two, she was paranoid because her husband was disappearing at all hours, disappearing for days at a time, and was lying about having a second cell phone and just constantly lying to her in general.

When she actually found out, she kicked him out because he lied to her and did so in such an incredibly insane way that she thought could have got him killed (and she has come to hate drugs, since her brother in law is a DEA Agent). What does it matter if he was trying to bring in money, when he was compromising the relationship they had to do so and doing it in a completely illegal manner? Nevermind the fact that when she kicked him out, he forced himself in the house and made Skyler seem like the bad guy, so she slept with Ted to get back at him for doing so. Your black and white picture of it is so offensive and ridiculous I can't even begin to comprehend it.

And now, Walt got her brother in law shot and almost paralyzed/killed, he put his family in complete danger, continues to make her look like the ***** in front of their son, and is right back at it while seemingly doing it without an understanding of why she'd be mad that he'd do that in the first place. Hell, he bragged about Jesse having a gun to his head and now he's all peaceful with him. How is she supposed to feel? Is she just supposed to sit back and accept it, because he's the husband and she should just allow him to do whatever he wants?

[yo123]

CALM YOUR TITS SKYLAR SELLING METH AND KILLING PEOPLE IS NO BIG DEAL

sadfsda

[JoeJoeBrown]

You seem to be incredibly sexist and completely not understanding of everything she's done. In the first season, she begged her husband to get chemotherapy because she was terrified of having to raise a new born on her own, especially since she hadn't been able to achieve a stable income even before then. In season two, she was paranoid because her husband was disappearing at all hours, disappearing for days at a time, and was lying about having a second cell phone and just constantly lying to her in general.

When she actually found out, she kicked him out because he lied to her and did so in such an incredibly insane way that she thought could have got him killed (and she has come to hate drugs, since her brother in law is a DEA Agent). What does it matter if he was trying to bring in money, when he was compromising the relationship they had to do so and doing it in a completely illegal manner? Nevermind the fact that when she kicked him out, he forced himself in the house and made Skyler seem like the bad guy, so she slept with Ted to get back at him for doing so. Your black and white picture of it is so offensive and ridiculous I can't even begin to comprehend it.

And now, Walt got her brother in law shot and almost paralyzed/killed, he put his family in complete danger, continues to make her look like the ***** in front of their son, and is right back at it while seemingly doing it without an understanding of why she'd be mad that he'd do that in the first place. Hell, he bragged about Jesse having a gun to his head and now he's all peaceful with him. How is she supposed to feel? Is she just supposed to sit back and accept it, because he's the husband and she should just allow him to do whatever he wants?

I'm beginning to think that you may be a 50 year old divorced housewife.

I'm not going to write a dissertation on a TV show character that I have zero empathy with. I don't relate to people that are that inept, pathetic, cowardly, slutty, narrowminded, and uneducated. She was constantly browbeating and nagging Walt early on in the series. Everyone perceived him as meek, and she fully abused that. She sucks.

The guy risked life and limb to make cash to protect them for when he died. He did it the best way he thought that he could in the amount of time that he thought that he had. She showed zero comprehension or appreciation for those facts. None. She lacked the ability to synthesize any of the information and acted like the ******** white trash waitress that she was.

She went and ****** her boss while acting like a floozy in front of the rest of the company (singing like Marilyn Monroe at a birthday party? WTF?) That's how a rational human acts in response to finding out her dying husband compromised his moral system to provide the family hundreds of thousands of dollars in preparation for his imminent death. He knew what he did was wrong, that he was doing bad things, and that he shouldn't do them. So when he needed a moral pillar, she was not there for him at all. She was worthless and selfish. She was the final nail in good Walt's coffin.

And FWIW, my wife thinks Skylar is a dumb, poorly written character as well. Only during this season do either of us have anything amounting to sympathy for her.

[Bert Macklin]

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/3057/imagehla.jpg

[Brodeur]

I'm beginning to think that you may be a 50 year old divorced housewife.

I'm not going to write a dissertation on a TV show character that I have zero empathy with. I don't relate to people that are that inept, pathetic, cowardly, slutty, narrowminded, and uneducated. She was constantly browbeating and nagging Walt early on in the series. Everyone perceived him as meek, and she fully abused that. She sucks.

The guy risked life and limb to make cash to protect them for when he died. He did it the best way he thought that he could in the amount of time that he thought that he had. She showed zero comprehension or appreciation for those facts. None. She lacked the ability to synthesize any of the information and acted like the ******** white trash waitress that she was.

She went and ****** her boss while acting like a floozy in front of the rest of the company (singing like Marilyn Monroe at a birthday party? WTF?) That's how a rational human acts in response to finding out her dying husband compromised his moral system to provide the family hundreds of thousands of dollars in preparation for his imminent death. He knew what he did was wrong, that he was doing bad things, and that he shouldn't do them. So when he needed a moral pillar, she was not there for him at all. She was worthless and selfish. She was the final nail in good Walt's coffin.

And FWIW, my wife thinks Skylar is a dumb, poorly written character as well. Only during this season do either of us have anything amounting to sympathy for her.

You mean despite the fact that he was offered a job and full coverage for his medical bills at the company where his friends worked at? And that he was too prideful to bother working for them? He had other options, he wanted control and sought it.

[jrdrylie]

I didn't like Skylar at the beginning. But you have to see where she is coming from. At the beginning, Walt wouldn't talk to her, lied to her, disappeared for hours, practically anal-raped her in the kitchen, and was just an all around dick. I know he had cancer but she had every right to be mad.

Walt was doing things to make sure his family was taken care of. But that doesn't give him a blank check to do whatever he wants. Selling hard drugs and murdering people are not right things to do. I'm sorry, but Walt is a despicable human being doing despicable things. He isn't doing this to help his family anymore. He's doing it because he likes it. If Skylar wasn't being a ***** about all of this, it would be terribly unrealistic.

[JoeJoeBrown]

I didn't like Skylar at the beginning. But you have to see where she is coming from. At the beginning, Walt wouldn't talk to her, lied to her, disappeared for hours, practically anal-raped her in the kitchen, and was just an all around dick. I know he had cancer but she had every right to be mad.

Walt was doing things to make sure his family was taken care of. But that doesn't give him a blank check to do whatever he wants. Selling hard drugs and murdering people are not right things to do. I'm sorry, but Walt is a despicable human being doing despicable things. He isn't doing this to help his family anymore. He's doing it because he likes it. If Skylar wasn't being a ***** about all of this, it would be terribly unrealistic.

Oh, I have no defense of Walt or how terrible he is. He's an evil person. Her complete and utter lack of empathy from the beginning permitted his downward spiral. That and her lack of ability to provide for herself.

I don't like her. YOU GUYS CAN'T MAKE ME.

[JoeJoeBrown]

You mean despite the fact that he was offered a job and full coverage for his medical bills at the company where his friends worked at? And that he was too prideful to bother working for them? He had other options, he wanted control and sought it.

I did overlook that, didn't I?

Being beaten down all of your life by your family, especially your wife, will make a man want to take control of things.

[Bert Macklin]

I didn't like Skylar at the beginning. But you have to see where she is coming from. At the beginning, Walt wouldn't talk to her, lied to her, disappeared for hours, practically anal-raped her in the kitchen, and was just an all around dick. I know he had cancer but she had every right to be mad.

Walt was doing things to make sure his family was taken care of. But that doesn't give him a blank check to do whatever he wants. Selling hard drugs and murdering people are not right things to do. I'm sorry, but Walt is a despicable human being doing despicable things. He isn't doing this to help his family anymore. He's doing it because he likes it. If Skylar wasn't being a ***** about all of this, it would be terribly unrealistic.

She also stole 600k of that money for her family and gave it to her lover.

[Brodeur]

She also stole 600k of that money for her family and gave it to her lover.

Because if they investigated him, they would've investigated Skyler and where the money came from for the car wash and the money being peddled in. She was trying to think of a way to protect herself and Walt.