Would you want Randy Moss on your team?

[eacantdraft]

Modern day Randy Moss that is. The one that combines a surly/selfish attitude with deteriating skills.

I would not him and his suckage anywhere close to my team's locker room.

[etk]

Green Bay: He's all yours :D

[bigbluedefense]

No thank you. The Giants have enough divas to last a life time. We don't need another.

It would be killer to have him and Plax though, but I think the cons outweigh the pros..

[neko4]

I sure do!

[duckseason]

I said no, but if I were a Packer fan, I'd love to have him. I really can't picture there being any problems up there with him. He's got Favre, and they'll be competitive. The first time he opens his mouth, Favre'll just smack him. The other team I would welcome him to would be the Patriots. He wouldn't be able to half-ass it on either of those teams.

[neko4]

I said no, but if I were a Packer fan, I'd love to have him. I really can't picture there being any problems up there with him. He's got Favre, and they'll be competitive. The first time he opens his mouth, Favre'll just smack him. The other team I would welcome him to would be the Patriots. He wouldn't be able to half-ass it on either of those teams.

Exactly, guys like Andrew Walter arent good enough to command such respect, which is why I think Moss should work out great.

[Splat]

No way and I'm a Chiefs fan who are very thin at WR so that is pretty bad.

[The Unseen]

No. waaaaayyyy too much amoritization for a player that has injury problems and is getting past his prime.

[M1Koter]

Green Bay: He's all yours :D

please don't remind me, I still can't belive packer fans want the guy who pretending to moon the crowd in Green bay, would want that guy to come play, I frickin hate him with a passion and can't stand the packer fans that would welcome him with open arms

[B-Dawk]

No. waaaaayyyy too much amoritization for a player that has injury problems and is getting past his prime.

Moss is way past his prime

[Splat]

I would rather have T.O. and I hate T.O.

[M1Koter]

I would rather have T.O. and I hate T.O.

I think I would actually to. If there was one player in the league that I wouldn't want on the packers, it's moss

[lod01]

Favre to Moss baby, get used to it!

[DeathbyStat]

Yes if the last piece to my super bowl puzzle was an aging receiver with diminished skills a poor attitude that only runs one route......then yes.

[Flyboy]

No. Not so much that he "sucks" but that he'd totally ruin team chemistry and he is definitely not a Sean Payton player.

[portermvp84]

We should start another poll would you like TO on your team?

[etk]

No. waaaaayyyy too much amoritization for a player that has injury problems and is getting past his prime.

Imagine the Jaguars adding another tall WR that can't catch.

[#1chiefs_fan]

yes. In the right suitiation Randy Moss can be very good.
In his first year with Norv Turner, he had over 1000 yards but things changed when they fired Norv and hired Art Shell and Tom Walsh to run the offense. I think if Randy Moss can give Lane Kiffin a chance, it will work out for both sides. Plus if they draft Jamarcus Russell then they have a big arm that can get Moss down the field like when he was with Daunte Culpepper in Minnesota.

[AdrianWilson12]

I'd take him for almost any team, but as a Arizona Cardinals fan it would be a flat out NO, just because we have absolutely no need.

[niel89]

no way he just isnt the type of guy i want on the ravens

[PACKmanN]

he knows if he doesnt product anything thousands of packer fans will roit to his house and demand for his head.

[princefielder28]

Yes if the last piece to my super bowl puzzle was an aging receiver with diminished skills a poor attitude that only runs one route......then yes.

That's kinda the situation in Green Bay but we need a RB too

[cordscords]

Yes

2004: 13 TD in 13 games
2005: 1005 Yards, 8 TD with Collins at QB
2006: A poor season which I attribute, for a large part, the Raiders totally sucking.

Put him in GB, he will put up 1200 yards, 10 TD easy.

[Man_Of_Steel]

Take him GB, screw your franchise.

[the_legend_killer]

I'd want him, then again I'm a fan of his. If he goes to GB it'll be interesting to see how the Packer fans go from "I Hate him!" to "Oh, he's great!" to "I hate him, and ALWAYS had!"

[etk]

he knows if he doesnt product anything thousands of packer fans will roit to his house and demand for his head.

Yeah he knows that but he doesn't care

[frogstomp]

If I cheered for a team that had a QB that could throw the ball more than 20 yards, then most definitely.

Moss isn't nearly as bad as all of you are making him out to be. You have no evidence he is past his prime... the last two years he played for a team that had horrible QB's and coaches that didn't call his number a) enough, b) in the right plays.

He may not be his 1600 yard 17 TD season that he was the last time he cared and wasn't injured, but he is easily a 1300 10 TD guy with Favre.

If I was a Packer fan, I would be having wet dreams about Moss coming to town.

[Shiver]

If my team was a winner, absolutely. He is the best WR in the league on a competitive team.

[frogstomp]

If my team was a winner, absolutely. He is the best WR in the league on a competitive team.

See, I don't think that you even have to be a winner, per se. I think you have to be a solid team (at least 6-10) with a better than average QB, and a coach that will actually let Moss run the routes he runs best. When I watched Moss play in Oakland, they threw the ball deep to him like once a game, and then gave him some short passes, and then ignored him for the rest of the game. I think he just tired of it, along with the horrible QB play.

However, if you have a mediocre QB, you *better* be a winning team, or Moss won't play for you.

[eacantdraft]

If my team was a winner, absolutely. He is the best WR in the league on a competitive team.

Better than Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, and 30 other receivers?

[eacantdraft]

See, I don't think that you even have to be a winner, per se. I think you have to be a solid team (at least 6-10) with a better than average QB, and a coach that will actually let Moss run the routes he runs best. When I watched Moss play in Oakland, they threw the ball deep to him like once a game, and then gave him some short passes, and then ignored him for the rest of the game. I think he just tired of it, along with the horrible QB play.

However, if you have a mediocre QB, you *better* be a winning team, or Moss won't play for you.

Now that is the type of player I want on my team. Try only when you are winning.

I hope Moss realizes that he has to do his part to help the team to win.

[frogstomp]

Now that is the type of player I want on my team. Try only when you are winning.

I hope Moss realizes that he has to do his part to help the team to win.

I just said that it doesn't have to only be a winning team. I said that it has to be a good QB, or a winning team.

Anyways, obviously Moss isn't as bad as a teammate as you'd like to make him seem... why the hell would Doug Gabriel have asked the Pats to trade for him if that was true? It would have moved Gabriel down the depth chart, and he wasn't even a starter then, either.

[LonghornsLegend]

his skills beingn diminished are vastly overrated i believe, he has only 2 seasons under 1000 yds out of 10, and i dont know how anyone can blame his poor stats and lazy attitude on him...he had bad qb play the 2 years he was under 1000 yds....


marvin harrison is still playingg at a high level, why are all of you so stuck on the idea he's washed up like he's 38 years old

[frogstomp]

marvin harrison is still playingg at a high level, why are all of you so stuck on the idea he's washed up like he's 38 years old

Did anyone say that?...

[Shiver]

Better than Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, and 30 other receivers?

The only person on that list that was as good as Moss at his best was Marvin Harrison, and Terrell Owens. The other guys are a joke even to be mentioned, as if they are near as good as Moss can be.

[Titans10]

I wish we could get him in Tennessee, we need a reciever bad, and having one of the best in the game would really help with the development of Vince. It would never happen though

[LonghornsLegend]

Did anyone say that?...

the first thing out of almost everyone's mouth was that he has diminished skills, and they say it as if he's not a good WR anymore....im askingg what evidence proves that he's as bad as everyone makes it out to be....because in his first 10 years, its not many wr's that match up with those numbers, and i didnt see any sign of him slowing down....he's not the WR he was in 99, but he's still a top 10 wr in the NFL

[ninerfan]

He'd be welcome across the bay

[eaglesalltheway]

I don't want him messign with the Eagles chemistry, no way!

[bernbabybern820]

i love how two intelligent posters give their opinions and then all of a sudden the moss haters are gone :D

[The Dynasty]

what do u think? I would love to have him back.

[neko4]

The only person on that list that was as good as Moss at his best was Marvin Harrison, and Terrell Owens. The other guys are a joke even to be mentioned, as if they are near as good as Moss can be.

Fitzgerald has had a 1300 yd season, hes likely to repeat

[cheesehead10790]

I don't want him messign with the Eagles chemistry, no way!


What chemistry might that be???

[frogstomp]

the first thing out of almost everyone's mouth was that he has diminished skills, and they say it as if he's not a good WR anymore....im askingg what evidence proves that he's as bad as everyone makes it out to be....because in his first 10 years, its not many wr's that match up with those numbers, and i didnt see any sign of him slowing down....he's not the WR he was in 99, but he's still a top 10 wr in the NFL

But why are you bringing this up when the only post in this thread about Harrison was by EA, saying he's better than Moss.

You make no sense.

[bigbluedefense]

Moss has plenty left in the tank. Its hard to be a deep threat when your oline can't block beyond 1.5 seconds, and your qb wouldn't even be a 3rd stringer on most teams.

His attitude is an obvious problem. But the man can still to this day, flat out play. Put him on a decent team, and watch him fly.

[njx9]

hahahaha... the beginning of this thread is really funny. i won't repeat what shiver and frogstomp already said, but it's mind-boggling how many people can't seem to make the connection between moss's "decline" and the fact that he plays for one of the worst offenses i've seen in 20+ years of watching the NFL.

[Caddy]

No. With his contract and attitudinal problems, nobody would want him.

[hugepunch]

No thank you. The Giants have enough divas to last a life time. We don't need another.

It would be killer to have him and Plax though, but I think the cons outweigh the pros..

imagine the problems moss and plax would have. throw ME the ball! no eli THROW ME the ball.

[cheesehead10790]

imagine the problems moss and plax would have. throw ME the ball! no eli THROW ME the ball.


Hahaha and Eli wouldnt be able to get it to either of them. Thatd be the funniest part.

[njx9]

No. With his contract and attitudinal problems, nobody would want him.

awesome analysis, you'd make a great nfl gm.

[dhoe20]

Oh, hell yeah.

Better than Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, and 30 other receivers?

The only person on that list that was as good as Moss at his best was Marvin Harrison, and Terrell Owens. The other guys are a joke even to be mentioned, as if they are near as good as Moss can be.
Fitz is good, and if you gave Andre Johnson a better team he'd be a top WR too. In their prime though I'd say Moss was better than all of them.
Hahaha and Eli wouldnt be able to get it to either of them. Thatd be the funniest part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY5POA4lp8Y

He has a strong arm and can throw a good deep ball, idiot.

[Windy]

i still find it amazing he was able to get 42 catches in our "offense" last season. if i was a gm for another team i would only want him if he restructured his contract.

[bigbluedefense]

Hahaha and Eli wouldnt be able to get it to either of them. Thatd be the funniest part.


Funny...considering that Eli even with his issues is infinitely better than your Lord Favre is nowadays.

[eacantdraft]

Why am I not surprised that the Michael Vick fangirls are also big Randy Moss fangirls?

Andre Johnson plays on as sucky of teams as Moss and he shows up every game. And his QB doesn't play much better than the Raidahs and the Texan offensive line is worst.

Randy Moss is suppose to be a superstar. A superstar is suppose to try to make his team better, not quit when things go his way.

[frogstomp]

Why am I not surprised that the Michael Vick fangirls are also big Randy Moss fangirls?

Andre Johnson plays on as sucky of teams as Moss and he shows up every game. And his QB doesn't play much better than the Raidahs and the Texan offensive line is worst.

Randy Moss is suppose to be a superstar. A superstar is suppose to try to make his team better, not quit when things go his way.

There is so much wrong with what you just said, I'm not even going to bother arguing. Engaging any of the things you just spouted off would probably cause more brain damage than 3 weeks of straight drinking and heroin use.

[cheesehead10790]

Funny...considering that Eli even with his issues is infinitely better than your Lord Favre is nowadays.


I would take Brett at age 80 over Eli in his "prime".

He wouldnt be anywhere if his last name wasnt Manning.

Brett made a career by himself, and by going to freaking Southern Miss. And he didnt whine to his daddy when he got drafted because he didnt wanna be a bad team...

[bigbluedefense]

I would take Brett at age 80 over Eli in his "prime".

He wouldnt be anywhere if his last name wasnt Manning.

Brett made a career by himself, and by going to freaking Southern Miss. And he didnt whine to his daddy when he got drafted because he didnt wanna be a bad team...

Stop living in 1996. Its 2007. Brett Favre is a shell of his former self now. Packer fans need to realize this, and stop putting the man and his ego on the pedestal all the time.

[Shiver]

I would take Brett at age 80 over Eli in his "prime".

He wouldnt be anywhere if his last name wasnt Manning.

Brett made a career by himself, and by going to freaking Southern Miss. And he didnt whine to his daddy when he got drafted because he didnt wanna be a bad team...

:rolleyes:

Sure you would. No NFL team would take Favre right now, over Eli Manning, based on production on the field.

[eacantdraft]

There is so much wrong with what you just said, I'm not even going to bother arguing. Engaging any of the things you just spouted off would probably cause more brain damage than 3 weeks of straight drinking and heroin use.

So are you saying that it's OK for a player to quit on his team? Moss did that to 2 different teams.

But then again your prime objective is to sleep with him.

[njx9]

But then again your prime objective is to sleep with him.

you must be really secure with your own sexuality to throw that around so often.

[Shiver]

So are you saying that it's OK for a player to quit on his team? Moss did that to 2 different teams.

But then again your prime objective is to sleep with him.

Your obsessed with homosexual insults. Every one of your posts consists of;

'your ***'

'fangirls'

'you want to sleep with _____'

'put down the crack pipe'

You have to be 14-years old. Otherwise, that would just be sad.

[cheesehead10790]

Well for one thing Eli is/was surrounded by a lotmore talent. Eli was working with a playoff team. Favre may not have the physical ability that Eli has but he has 3 things Eli will never have: instinct, a brain, and respect. Theres a reason players and coaches comment on how they want Brett on their team...even today.

[frogstomp]

So are you saying that it's OK for a player to quit on his team? Moss did that to 2 different teams.

But then again your prime objective is to sleep with him.

How'd you know? Did he tell you that he wasn't going to sleep you because he found someone better?! Well, that would explain why you're so bitter...

[bigbluedefense]

Well for one thing Eli is/was surrounded by a lotmore talent. Eli was working with a playoff team. Favre may not have the physical ability that Eli has but he has 3 things Eli will never have: instinct, a brain, and respect. Theres a reason players and coaches comment on how they want Brett on their team...even today.

Brett Favre wasn't even the best qb in the NFC North this year. Rex freakin Grossman did better.

Seriously....just let it go. Favre was a great qb in his day, no doubt, but he is not the player he used to be.

And Eli's "talent" around him is overrated by people who have an agenda against him. Plax is solid, but nothing more than a big body deep threat. Toomer is his safety net, but he's no Reggie Wayne. Shockey is being misused by the OC.

Factor in Eli having a PB caliber 1st half of the season, then after his LT, his safety net WR, and Shockey all getting injured, its hard for me to say that it was all Eli's fault that we spiralled out of control the 2nd half of the season. Not to mention that we had a joke of a defense, and we ask our offense to put up 25+ points a game or its considered a disappointment.

[Shiver]

I am going to post for one whole day, like a 14-year old douche bag.

[frogstomp]

Brett Favre wasn't even the best qb in the NFC North this year. Rex freakin Grossman did better.

Seriously....just let it go. Favre was a great qb in his day, no doubt, but he is not the player he used to be.

He isn't, but he's definitely good enough to lob it the hell up for Moss. If they get Moss, I see a great statistical year (excluding INT's) for Favre.

[Shiver]

Well for one thing Eli is/was surrounded by a lotmore talent. Eli was working with a playoff team. Favre may not have the physical ability that Eli has but he has 3 things Eli will never have: instinct, a brain, and respect. Theres a reason players and coaches comment on how they want Brett on their team...even today.


Put down the crack pipe!!!!

You Favre fangirls are all alike. Your obsessed with him in a homosexual way.

[eacantdraft]

How'd you know? Did he tell you that he wasn't going to sleep you because he found someone better?! Well, that would explain why you're so bitter...


I knew that would get your goat.

Answer my question, is it OK for a player to quit on his team?

[cheesehead10790]

Brett Favre wasn't even the best qb in the NFC North this year. Rex freakin Grossman did better.

Seriously....just let it go. Favre was a great qb in his day, no doubt, but he is not the player he used to be.

And Eli's "talent" around him is overrated by people who have an agenda against him. Plax is solid, but nothing more than a big body deep threat. Toomer is his safety net, but he's no Reggie Wayne. Shockey is being misused by the OC.

Factor in Eli having a PB caliber 1st half of the season, then after his LT, his safety net WR, and Shockey all getting injured, its hard for me to say that it was all Eli's fault that we spiralled out of control the 2nd half of the season. Not to mention that we had a joke of a defense, and we ask our offense to put up 25+ points a game or its considered a disappointment.

First lets talk about how Rex Grossman was surrounded by a...superbowl team. That might have a liiiiiiiiiiitle bit to do with his success. Plax and toomer combo is better than Driver and Jennings. And Eli had a much better o-line than GB.Favre is far from what he used to be, but Eli is not the pro bowl QB you make him out to be.

Anyway, Moss would make Favre a 4000 yard QB again.

[bigbluedefense]

First lets talk about how Rex Grossman was surrounded by a...superbowl team. That might have a liiiiiiiiiiitle bit to do with his success. Plax and toomer combo is better than Driver and Jennings. And Eli had a much better o-line than GB.Favre is far from what he used to be, but Eli is not the pro bowl QB you make him out to be.

Anyway, Moss would make Favre a 4000 yard QB again.

I didn't say he was a PBer, I said he had a PB caliber first half, which he did considering his stats relative to the rest of the NFC qbs in the first half of the season.

Come on man, just let it go...players age, they get worse with age. Face reality.

[frogstomp]

I knew that would get your goat.

Answer my question, is it OK for a player to quit on his team?

If you knew that I would get him the whole time, why did you even bother wasting that money on the flowers you sent him? Anyways, I'm glad you've realized that you have no shot with Randy, and have moved on to someone more your "type."

About Randy's attitude: find one post where I defended his attitude. I simply said he was still a great player.

[Boston]

Funny...considering that Eli even with his issues is infinitely better than your Lord Favre is nowadays.

Funny how your comeback isnt' relevant.

[Geo]

Probably not, honestly.

[TitleTown088]

no way in hell.

[RaiderNation]

man we need to get rid of him

[eacantdraft]

If you knew that I would get him the whole time, why did you even bother wasting that money on the flowers you sent him? Anyways, I'm glad you've realized that you have no shot with Randy, and have moved on to someone more your "type."

About Randy's attitude: find one post where I defended his attitude. I simply said he was still a great player.


See, I don't think that you even have to be a winner, per se. I think you have to be a solid team (at least 6-10) with a better than average QB, and a coach that will actually let Moss run the routes he runs best. When I watched Moss play in Oakland, they threw the ball deep to him like once a game, and then gave him some short passes, and then ignored him for the rest of the game. I think he just tired of it, along with the horrible QB play.

However, if you have a mediocre QB, you *better* be a winning team, or Moss won't play for you.

Here you are making all kinds of excuses for your "man". A superstar would go make his team better, not quit on it.

You act like one of these Clay Aiken Claymates whenever your "husband" is dissed.

[jackalope]

no, keep him out of Green Bay.

[doingthisinsteadofwork]

no he jogs on his routes and cant catch.hes old as well.not to mention as a human being hes a dbag as well.

[49erfaithful]

after the T.O. inncident, no way ,the last thing SF needs is another selfish WR who could destroy our team

[frogstomp]

See, I don't think that you even have to be a winner, per se. I think you have to be a solid team (at least 6-10) with a better than average QB, and a coach that will actually let Moss run the routes he runs best. When I watched Moss play in Oakland, they threw the ball deep to him like once a game, and then gave him some short passes, and then ignored him for the rest of the game. I think he just tired of it, along with the horrible QB play.

However, if you have a mediocre QB, you *better* be a winning team, or Moss won't play for you.

Here you are making all kinds of excuses for your "man". A superstar would go make his team better, not quit on it.

You act like one of these Clay Aiken Claymates whenever your "husband" is dissed.

Look at what I said. I never once said that what he did was right. You'd think someone could look at what I posted, and see that it is speculation about *why* he stopped trying.

You're such an idiot. You keep losing an argument, and then make up new ones that have nothing to do with the old one. The sad thing is, you can't even win the new arguments that you come up with. Your homosexuality 'insults' are pretty bad, too.

[duckseason]

Oooohhh!!! Burn on Frogstomp! You love Randy Moss so much that you must've married him!! LOL!!!!! hey ea, high five!!!! Frogstomp needs to just run off and play with his "claymates!!" wink, wink....LOL!!!

[njx9]

"omg, moss sucks so much because he like, totally couldn't win the super bowl for the raiders, one of the best offenses in league history and he's always had such a great quarterback it's just too bad that he's such a terrible person because otherwise that team would've bene great because kerry collins and aaron brooks are world class quarterbacks and like, that o-line was totally like, OMG and stuff."

i can understand raiders fans being bitter. the rest of you have little to no excuse for the moronic "no, he sucks" comments. you're bloody wrong and nearly every respectable poster on this board has confirmed that. stop wasting bandwidth with worthless posts.

[dhoe20]

First lets talk about how Rex Grossman was surrounded by a...superbowl team. That might have a liiiiiiiiiiitle bit to do with his success. Plax and toomer combo is better than Driver and Jennings. And Eli had a much better o-line than GB.Favre is far from what he used to be, but Eli is not the pro bowl QB you make him out to be.

Anyway, Moss would make Favre a 4000 yard QB again.

Rex had a superbowl DEFENSE, and that's it. Driver is better than Plax, but Toomer is better than Jennings so that's a toss up. Then factor in the Toomer was hurt after just a couple games and...You're an idiot. Eli had a much better o-line? Puke got hurt halfway into the season. And even with the better o-line that's not the key to his success. He got sacked 8 TIMES in a philly game and still managed to pull out a comeback win in OT.

man we need to get rid of him

lol, I'd say it the other way around. He needs to get out of Oakland. He was on pace to become a HoF'er but he hasn't done anything in Oakland.

[doingthisinsteadofwork]

Much of which is his own fault.

[eacantdraft]

"omg, moss sucks so much because he like, totally couldn't win the super bowl for the raiders, one of the best offenses in league history and he's always had such a great quarterback it's just too bad that he's such a terrible person because otherwise that team would've bene great because kerry collins and aaron brooks are world class quarterbacks and like, that o-line was totally like, OMG and stuff."

i can understand raiders fans being bitter. the rest of you have little to no excuse for the moronic "no, he sucks" comments. you're bloody wrong and nearly every respectable poster on this board has confirmed that. stop wasting bandwidth with worthless posts.


Any player who give up on his team, sucks. Giving up on routes really increases a QB's confidence in his WR. Moss also had a good QB in Minnesota and then he quit on him as well. He sucks.

Glad you confirmed that we are respectable posters here. Coming from the most hated moderator, that means alot.

Be careful sleeping with Randy Moss. He probably would quit on you.

[Empire]

Any player who give up on his team, sucks. Giving up on routes really increases a QB's confidence in his WR. Moss also had a good QB in Minnesota and then he quit on him as well. He sucks.

Glad you confirmed that we are respectable posters here. Coming from the most hated moderator, that means alot.

Be careful sleeping with Randy Moss. He probably would quit on you.

What are you two years old? You keep repeating the most immature lines. One thing is for sure, no one guy or girl will be sleeping with someone so immature anytime soon.

[eacantdraft]

Rex had a superbowl DEFENSE, and that's it. Driver is better than Plax, but Toomer is better than Jennings so that's a toss up. Then factor in the Toomer was hurt after just a couple games and...You're an idiot. Eli had a much better o-line? Puke got hurt halfway into the season. And even with the better o-line that's not the key to his success. He got sacked 8 TIMES in a philly game and still managed to pull out a comeback win in OT.



lol, I'd say it the other way around. He needs to get out of Oakland. He was on pace to become a HoF'er but he hasn't done anything in Oakland.

The key word is "was". Randy Moss is not going into the Hall of Fame.

[frogstomp]

Any player who give up on his team, sucks. Giving up on routes really increases a QB's confidence in his WR. Moss also had a good QB in Minnesota and then he quit on him as well. He sucks.

Glad you confirmed that we are respectable posters here. Coming from the most hated moderator, that means alot.

Be careful sleeping with Randy Moss. He probably would quit on you.

I thought Randy was sleeping with me? Make up your mind, you fool.

Anyways, Randy doesn't suck. You have no argument for that. His personality leaves something to be desired, but that doesn't make him a bad player.

Haha, who are you to say anything about someone being hated? Look at your rep. Look at the posts people make directed at you.

[Empire]

The key word is "was". Randy Moss is not going into the Hall of Fame.

I don't think a two year old would know who is and isn't going into the Hall of Fame.

[Microphon200]

No. I've already said why so I'm not going to say why again.

[Empire]

No. I've already said why so I'm not going to say why again.

Easily the best argument in this thread. Give this man a standing ovation.

[eacantdraft]

I thought Randy was sleeping with me? Make up your mind, you fool.

Anyways, Randy doesn't suck. You have no argument for that. His personality leaves something to be desired, but that doesn't make him a bad player.

Haha, who are you to say anything about someone being hated? Look at your rep. Look at the posts people make directed at you.

Moss sucks in every major way possible. Every time he doesn't get his way, he cries. Some superstar. His numbers are down, no team is rushing out to get him. Certainly there is no bidding war going on. He is a bad player. He is a bad person.

I could care less about a human cancer's fangirls think of me.

Randy gets around as much as Ron Mexico and probably has the same disease as Ron.

[frogstomp]

Moss sucks in every major way possible. Every time he doesn't get his way, he cries. Some superstar. His numbers are down, no team is rushing out to get him. Certainly there is no bidding war going on. He is a bad player. He is a bad person.

I could care less about a human cancer's fangirls think of me.

Randy gets around as much as Ron Mexico and probably has the same disease as Ron.

Haha, you sound so bitter towards every person who has ever had sex.

Anyways, a bad player could never get 1600+ yards and 17 TD's in a season. Impossible. Moss is easily top 5 of the most talented receivers *ever*. Anyone who has watched football for about 5 minutes should know that.

And it isn't just Moss fans that hate you. It's pretty much anyone who has any respect for intelligence.

[eacantdraft]

Haha, you sound so bitter towards every person who has ever had sex.

Anyways, a bad player could never get 1600+ yards and 17 TD's in a season. Impossible. Moss is easily top 5 of the most talented receivers *ever*. Anyone who has watched football for about 5 minutes should know that.

And it isn't just Moss fans that hate you. It's pretty much anyone who has any respect for intelligence.


We are talking about recent history, not what Moss did in his prime. By your reasoning Kurt Warner must still be one of the top QB's in the land.

[Empire]

We are talking about recent history, not what Moss did in his prime. By your reasoning Kurt Warner must still be one of the top QB's in the land.

There's a big difference that maybe a two year old wouldn't understand. Moss was playing on the 31st ranked offense in the league and one of the worst I have seen in recent years. He did alright two years ago with an average offense and an average QB. Maybe you should try to understand this.

[frogstomp]

We are talking about recent history, not what Moss did in his prime. By your reasoning Kurt Warner must still be one of the top QB's in the land.

Recently? Moss had a 100+ yard game on the Oakland offense. How many other players could say that?

I'm not going to bring Moss' ability up, because his talent hasn't left him. Everyone knows that. Well, everyone except you, but frankly, you're so idiotic, I feel safer with you being against me than on the same side.

[bernbabybern820]

Just reading this argument is making my head hurt. And by the way Eli's play dropped off after Toomer's injury because he is the only Giants reciever that can actually run routes(and Shockey i guess). Plaxico(very average route runner) is basically a slower Randy Moss.

[eacantdraft]

There's a big difference that maybe a two year old wouldn't understand. Moss was playing on the 31st ranked offense in the league and one of the worst I have seen in recent years. He did alright two years ago with an average offense and an average QB. Maybe you should try to understand this.

Too bad you are only two years old because you may understand when you are older. Andre Johnson was on a team about as bad offensively as Moss. You didn't see Johnson quit on his routs like you did Moss. Moss didn't help the Raiders when he quit on them. He was particially responsible for their record.

[Empire]

Too bad you are only two years old because you may understand when you are older. Andre Johnson was on a team about as bad offensively as Moss. You didn't see Johnson quit on his routs like you did Moss. Moss didn't help the Raiders when he quit on them. He was particially responsible for their record.

Hahaha!! You can't even come up with your own comebacks. I love how you make arguments about something I don't even mention in my post. You're pathetic. Go back to pre-school, it's nap time.

[eacantdraft]

Hahaha!! You can't even come up with your own comebacks. I love how you make arguments about something I don't even mention in my post. You're pathetic. Go back to pre-school, it's nap time.

I don't need childish comebacks. I just showed you what a classy guy like Andre Johnson does for his struggling team versus a cancer like Randy Moss who is a quiter. Once of these days you may understand this or you may end up being a quiter just like Randy Moss.

[frogstomp]

I don't need childish comebacks. I just showed you what a classy guy like Andre Johnson does for his struggling team versus a cancer like Randy Moss who is a quiter. Once of these days you may understand this or you may end up being a quiter just like Randy Moss.

You're a homosexual.

Wait... that sounds like the only comeback that someone uses... hmmm... anyways. For the final time, I'll say this. A bad attitude does not make you a bad player. It just means you have a bad attitude. Now please stop talking, I'm embarrassed for you.

You should also look "quiter" up in the dictionary, and realize that it isn't a word.

[Empire]

I don't need childish comebacks. I just showed you what a classy guy like Andre Johnson does for his struggling team versus a cancer like Randy Moss who is a quiter. Once of these days you may understand this or you may end up being a quiter just like Randy Moss.

You're an idiot.

"I could care less about a human cancer's fangirls think of me.

Randy gets around as much as Ron Mexico and probably has the same disease as Ron."

"Be careful sleeping with Randy Moss. He probably would quit on you."

"Coming from the most hated moderator, that means alot."

"You act like one of these Clay Aiken Claymates whenever your "husband" is dissed."

"But then again your prime objective is to sleep with him"

"Why am I not surprised that the Michael Vick fangirls are also big Randy Moss fangirls?"

Those are all from one thread alone. I could go into your post count, but it take me a couple years to gather all of your childish insults and comebacks.

[njx9]

Any player who give up on his team, sucks. Giving up on routes really increases a QB's confidence in his WR. Moss also had a good QB in Minnesota and then he quit on him as well. He sucks.

yeah, lack of confidence was the big problem with collins and brooks. ok.

Glad you confirmed that we are respectable posters here. Coming from the most hated moderator, that means alot.

i would never call you respectable, but then, i'm apparently not the most hated moderator based on rep.

Be careful sleeping with Randy Moss. He probably would quit on you.

wow. i think that statement pretty much sums up your entire posting career.

[njx9]

EA: did you have so little to respond with that you had to follow me to another thread in the vain hope i wouldn't notice?

[neko4]

I thought Mods were just given rep automatically

[njx9]

which isn't really relevant when comparing mod to mod.

[Shiver]

This message is hidden because eacantdraft is on your ignore list.

I love this new forum.

[doingthisinsteadofwork]

I likew Eacantdraft's rep.
smells like sex panther

[Shiver]

I likew Eacantdraft's rep.
smells like sex panther

I'm amazed that kid isn't on TNew's level.

[LonghornsLegend]

But why are you bringing this up when the only post in this thread about Harrison was by EA, saying he's better than Moss.

You make no sense.

my point is that on the first page, at least 5 post were about his diminished skills, or being past his prime...my question is what does beingg past your prime have to do with not being able to be productive anymore, thats why I brought up harrison, i didnt say anyone else had to


i just think its being over exaggeratted too much, everyone acts as if his career is over, he has 3 years left where he could produce better then any other WR playing right now, regardless of his age, he's still one of the hardest WR's to cover in a balanced offense with an experienced qb

[dhoe20]

The key word is "was". Randy Moss is not going into the Hall of Fame.

You pretty much just repeated what I just said... What was the point? Randy still has a couple years left so anything can happen, especially if he gets a good qb.

I don't need childish comebacks. I just showed you what a classy guy like Andre Johnson does for his struggling team versus a cancer like Randy Moss who is a quiter. Once of these days you may understand this or you may end up being a quiter just like Randy Moss.

No doubt that Andre's good. But when Randy has a good QB w/ a good offensive game plan he's tops in the league.

[eacantdraft]

Despite the blind manlove from the part of the Randy Moss fangirls, the facts remain.

* Randy Moss has had 3 consecutive down seasons in which he got worst in each one.

* He has been a locker room cancer for two teams now.

* He is a quitter and cares about nothing but himself

* Teams aren't rushing out to start a bidding war for his services.

* He will probably remain a Raider for a while until the cut him.

Blind lust can't hide the truth.

[Non_Sequitur]

Yes, but only because we have Chad Pennington; who Randy Moss said when he was on the Vikings was the "Best QB to catch passes for" he'd ever places and that he threw "A more catchable deep ball" than Culpepper.

[LonghornsLegend]

* Randy Moss has had 3 consecutive down seasons in which he got worst in each one.

jus name me one, ANY WR, who would of put up 1200 yds, and 8 td's last year, on the raiders, with that O line, and brooks/walters, and no lamont jordan

take your pick, and id love to hear how they would of had great years

[Non_Sequitur]

jus name me one, ANY WR, who would of put up 1200 yds, and 8 td's last year, on the raiders, with that O line, and brooks/walters, and no lamont jordan

take your pick, and id love to hear how they would of had great years

Torry Holt.

JK, no one could, you are right. Last year was the first year tat Holt didn't get 1300+ yards in the past 7 years (every year but his rookie). He's the only guy to do it more than 3 times in a row, and he did it 6.

Then they get a vanilla offense guy and his streak goes all to hell.

[Shiver]

Despite the blind manlove from the part of the Randy Moss fangirls, the facts remain.

* Randy Moss has had 3 consecutive down seasons in which he got worst in each one.

By "3 consecutive" you mean two seasons in which he was leading the NFL in receiving stats until he got hurt, still put up good numbers, and one year on the worst offense in recent memory with no O-Line, no QB? Those are the facts.

* He has been a locker room cancer for two teams now.

Are you implying Moss was the main problem in Minnesota and Oakland? Priceless.

* He is a quitter and cares about nothing but himself

As is most of the players in the NFL. Very few would go all out, in the situation he was in last year.

* Teams aren't rushing out to start a bidding war for his services.

That "fact" is unprovable. Thus it isn't a "fact," unless you work inside the Raiders organization.

* He will probably remain a Raider for a while until the cut him.

Since when did conjecture become "facts," I'm confused.

Blind lust can't hide the truth.

I haven't heard some many insults deriving from attacking another person's sexuality in while. Once again this leads me to believe you are a 13 year old, E-Thug.

[49ersfan_87]

As is most of the players in the NFL. Very few would go all out, in the situation he was in last year.



Correct me if im wrong, but didnt he basically give up after the first two games?

I think that, no matter what, you give it 100 percent. I watched some raider games and he made walter look worse than he really was in some instances. Not running good routes, not fighting for the ball, dropping easy catches. While he has immense talent, what happens if your team loses 3 in a row? Will he still have the fire?

[Shiver]

Moss was productive until November, after getting embarrassed as a team by the Seahawks.

[etk]

I don't understand why you are such an avid Randy Moss defender, Shiver, but you are doing a damn good job at it. I mean I guess it's just blind manlove from a Randy Moss fangirl, but it's the best damn blind manlove I've ever seen :D

I think eacantdraft has officially surrendered, what is this kid's problem? I think the unpredictable troll has gone back to hiding under the bridge.

[Windy]

We did have the worst offense in recent memory but somehow Ronald Curry, a former 7th round pick had a career year. 60+ catches and 727 Yards. Plus he was coming off 2 horrible achilles injuries. It just shows the difference between two types of players.

[Shiver]

I don't understand why you are such an avid Randy Moss defender, Shiver, but you are doing a damn good job at it. I mean I guess it's just blind manlove from a Randy Moss fangirl, but it's the best damn blind manlove I've ever seen :D

I think eacantdraft has officially surrendered, what is this kid's problem? I think the unpredictable troll has gone back to hiding under the bridge.

I think I'm probably only doing it because of "eacantdraft," aka 14-year old e-thug.

[etk]

I think I'm probably only doing it because of "eacantdraft," aka 14-year old e-thug.

E-thug, MSN gangster, telephone tough guy.

Eacantdraft is all of the above. God I love amusing trolls on this forum.

[Football Fan]

Moss only makes sense on some nfl teams. Teams with a proven QB like Brady could really benefit, other teams like detroit would be totally the wrong place for him. Its a situational thing, so of coarse not everyone would want him. I think going after him only makes sense for a few teams out there especially at his cost.

[LonghornsLegend]

Moss only makes sense on some nfl teams. Teams with a proven QB like Brady could really benefit, other teams like detroit would be totally the wrong place for him. Its a situational thing, so of coarse not everyone would want him. I think going after him only makes sense for a few teams out there especially at his cost.

i agree with that, it would have to be the right fit...

a team close to winning the super bowl, and an experienced QB capable of getting the ball downfield

[eacantdraft]

By "3 consecutive" you mean two seasons in which he was leading the NFL in receiving stats until he got hurt, still put up good numbers, and one year on the worst offense in recent memory with no O-Line, no QB? Those are the facts.



Are you implying Moss was the main problem in Minnesota and Oakland? Priceless.



As is most of the players in the NFL. Very few would go all out, in the situation he was in last year.



That "fact" is unprovable. Thus it isn't a "fact," unless you work inside the Raiders organization.



Since when did conjecture become "facts," I'm confused.



I haven't heard some many insults deriving from attacking another person's sexuality in while. Once again this leads me to believe you are a 13 year old, E-Thug.

Your mancrush on Moss is so strong that you are in denial about anything bad about him.

Moss was the main problem in Minnesota and Oakland. Remember the Randy Ratio? His sideline blow up with Culpepper. His blow up with Oakland. His taking off plays in Oakland. Funny how no matter where Randy Moss goes, strife within his teams follow. Funny how his 2nd organization is trying to unload him in three years.

Most players will go all out. It's called pride and professionalism. Two thing Moss doesn't have. Wonder why Warren Sapp called him out publicly? Quit making excuses for Moss. Not everyone can be on a Super Bowl contender every year or be in a high powered offense like Randy Moss seems to think he has a natural born right to be.

Funny how Ronald Curry, a 7th round draft pick ended up with better numbers than Moss last year.

And you actually think there is a bidding war on Moss? You probably believe in the tooth fairy too. The trade to Atlanta rumour is dead. He is not going to New England. The only team that was interested in him appeared to be Green Bay until the fans voiced their objections. This is not what I call a bidding war.

[R.I.P DWILL DNASH]

No Way. Denver is fine right now.

[jetsfan3]

No way for the Jets. I don't know how he will be able to handle a 36 year old coach. He would not respect him and would be the usual lazy ass that he is.

[MP123]

No. He's not that good anymore and he puts in minimal effort. Also, he's not a team guy.

[sik wit it]

I'm sick of all you stupid ass Green Bay "Fans" that are bringing up the mooning incident over and over again. If you didn't know its tradition for fans to moon the opposing teams bus after games. Since Green Bay would usually have its way against Minny at home, Moss got his share of Green Bay arses in his face. The stunt he pulled at Lambeau is actually pretty funny if you aren't a scrooge. Get real and give Randy a chance. If we go deep in the playoffs there will still be room on the bandwagon for you but if we don't bring him in there will be no playoff bandwagon.
War Packers to the playoffs next year
War Randy to the bay of Green

[gbpackers0065]

hell no we can get a deep threat WR in round 3 of the draft

[eacantdraft]

I'm sick of all you stupid ass Green Bay "Fans" that are bringing up the mooning incident over and over again. If you didn't know its tradition for fans to moon the opposing teams bus after games. Since Green Bay would usually have its way against Minny at home, Moss got his share of Green Bay arses in his face. The stunt he pulled at Lambeau is actually pretty funny if you aren't a scrooge. Get real and give Randy a chance. If we go deep in the playoffs there will still be room on the bandwagon for you but if we don't bring him in there will be no playoff bandwagon.
War Packers to the playoffs next year
War Randy to the bay of Green

It's more than the fake mooning why football don't like Moss. It's the laziness, the Randy Ratio, the quitting on two teams in 3 years that makes America hate him.

[Empire]

It's more than the fake mooning why football don't like Moss. It's the laziness, the Randy Ratio, the quitting on two teams in 3 years that makes America hate him.

It's because of the same stupid posts from you over and over again that the whole board hates you.

[sik wit it]

It's more than the fake mooning why football don't like Moss. It's the laziness, the Randy Ratio, the quitting on two teams in 3 years that makes America hate him.
laziness= you'd quit on your team to if they sucked more dick than jenna jameson.
Randy Ratio=thats not even an argument, Mike Tice made that up.
quitting goes along with laziness

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[etk]

It's more than the fake mooning why football don't like Moss. It's the laziness, the Randy Ratio, the quitting on two teams in 3 years that makes America hate him.

When exactly did he "quit" on the Vikings?

[Empire]

When exactly did he "quit" on the Vikings?

Didn't you know?!!! He got only 767 yards in 2004. OMG he sucks so bad he quit on his team and faked an injury. I don't care if he got 13 touchdowns that year you just want to sleep with him. He's a horrible role model for me and every other 5 year old in the country. He's teaching us to smoke pot and give up on our teams.

[frogstomp]

Yeah, EA, don't bother giving rep of any form to anyone. It won't do anything, except make me laugh in your face more.

[Joe Montana]

Hire him as a water boy or grass keeper. Total waste and shouldn't be playing anymore.

[rchrd]

When exactly did he "quit" on the Vikings?

When he walked off the field before the game was over may be one instance of 'quitting'. Anyhow, I loved the guy in Minny and i'd still take him back with open arms. So not really sure what my point is, so will proceed to shutting up.

[BroadwayJoe10]

yes id love the jets to have him..and i can't wait till he gets on a team goes for 1200+ and 10+ tds and everyone starts saying how he just had a passion to win and couldnt do it on the raiders or something along those lines...but if not then he'll remain as one of the most talented wide recievers ever and a waste even if he does have one of the best 6 seasons to start a career ever

[eacantdraft]

Amazing how the Randy(Jake) Moss trade talk has gotten awfully quiet the last week.

[swagger]

Randy Moss doesn't suck, the Raiders do. Al Davis is an idiot for trading for Moss, when he didn't have the quarterback situation nor the o-line situation to make Moss a valuable commodity. There are very few teams that wouldn't have benefited from Moss, but the Riaders were bad enough to be one of them.

Congrats, Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders, on completing a trade detrimental to your team. And effectively wasting 2 yrs of Moss' career.

[dhoe20]

hell no we can get a deep threat WR in round 3 of the draft

Yeah but there's only one WR in this draft that might possibly be as good as Moss was in his best years.

[asmitty45]

Ya id take him on the Lions, he would compliment Roy Williams style of play and would be a stud in the Martz system. Furrey would be a crazy good 3 as well

[MP123]

Anyone who would want Randy Moss on their team is an idiot!!!

[swagger]

Anyone who would want Randy Moss on their team is an idiot!!!

Very intelligent post!!!

[LonghornsLegend]

Randy Moss doesn't suck, the Raiders do. Al Davis is an idiot for trading for Moss, when he didn't have the quarterback situation nor the o-line situation to make Moss a valuable commodity. There are very few teams that wouldn't have benefited from Moss, but the Riaders were bad enough to be one of them.

Congrats, Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders, on completing a trade detrimental to your team. And effectively wasting 2 yrs of Moss' career.

great post, agree completely about it being a horrible trade, but i also fault randy some for going knowing that

[eacantdraft]

Randy Moss doesn't suck, the Raiders do. Al Davis is an idiot for trading for Moss, when he didn't have the quarterback situation nor the o-line situation to make Moss a valuable commodity. There are very few teams that wouldn't have benefited from Moss, but the Riaders were bad enough to be one of them.

Congrats, Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders, on completing a trade detrimental to your team. And effectively wasting 2 yrs of Moss' career.

That's a fair trade. Jake Moss contributed to two sucky seasons by the Raiders, the Raiders wasted two seasons of Jake's career. Fortunately enough to keep him out of the Hall of Fame.

[eacantdraft]

Very intelligent post!!!

Very truthful post.

[frogstomp]

That's a fair trade. Jake Moss contributed to two sucky seasons by the Raiders, the Raiders wasted two seasons of Jake's career. Fortunately enough to keep him out of the Hall of Fame.

Your jokes are far less funny than you seem to think they are. In fact, they aren't funny at all. If anything, your jokes are depressing because they show just how stupid people can be.

[eacantdraft]

Your jokes are far less funny than you seem to think they are. In fact, they aren't funny at all. If anything, your jokes are depressing because they show just how stupid people can be.

And you are a prime example of how stupid people can be.

Jake is going to be a nobody once he retires. He's not going to the Hall of Fame and no network is going to hire Jake as an announcer.

[frogstomp]

And you are a prime example of how stupid people can be.

Jake is going to be a nobody once he retires. He's not going to the Hall of Fame and no network is going to hire Jake as an announcer.

Oh my god. You're a genius! I mean, I never thought that you would take my exact insult and use it right back on me? Boy is my face red!

Anyways, I wasn't even making a Moss argument, I was simply commenting on how this "Jake" joke is something that no one with an intelligence level above a common tapeworm would laugh at. But, then again, you seem to be trying to break your own record for most idiotic post every single time you hit "submit reply." Unfortunately for you, you're not even smart enough to do that. You just go around and steal other people's idiotic ideas and jokes, and try to act like you're the fool who thought them up, despite the fact everyone knows that you're too stupid to come up with any joke at all, be it lame or not.

[eacantdraft]

Oh my god. You're a genius! I mean, I never thought that you would take my exact insult and use it right back on me? Boy is my face red!

Anyways, I wasn't even making a Moss argument, I was simply commenting on how this "Jake" joke is something that no one with an intelligence level above a common tapeworm would laugh at. But, then again, you seem to be trying to break your own record for most idiotic post every single time you hit "submit reply." Unfortunately for you, you're not even smart enough to do that. You just go around and steal other people's idiotic ideas and jokes, and try to act like you're the fool who thought them up, despite the fact everyone knows that you're too stupid to come up with any joke at all, be it lame or not.

Stop acting like a prissy fangirl that you deny that you are every time one of your "heros" get dissed. And I would not use the word "hero" to describe Jake.

[frogstomp]

Stop acting like a prissy fangirl that you deny that you are every time one of your "heros" get dissed. And I would not use the word "hero" to describe Jake.

See my above comment. I don't care what you think of Moss, because your football knowledge... simply doesn't exist.

[eacantdraft]

See my above comment. I don't care what you think of Moss, because your football knowledge... simply doesn't exist.

At least I know Jake jaked it.