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jetsfan0099
03-28-2010, 01:06 PM
He seemed to fall as I thought he was a guaranteed first rounder now it seems people have him round 2. From what I read he had a great pro day workout looking fluid and athletic enough to play as a rushing LB.

Would he be a good fit for the NYJ at pick #29? I'm guessing he'll go late first early 2nd in the draft. I would love Brandon Graham but he'll be off the board most likely before we pick, but I also liked what I saw from Hughes on a highlight/lowlight video. I like his speed and hustle.

If he was drafted by the NYJ how many sacks would he get as a rookie would you think?

Thumper
03-28-2010, 01:07 PM
Jerry Hughes is worth a lot more than the 29th pick.

JFLO
03-28-2010, 01:23 PM
Sort of depends on the scenario...If Kindle or Graham are still there, then no. Otherwise, it would have to be a desperate team need.

From an overall prospect standpoint, Hughes definitely isn't worth the 29th pick. 39th, 49th...yes

jetsfan0099
03-28-2010, 01:23 PM
Jerry Hughes is worth a lot more than the 29th pick.

You think hes going to be a stud?

jetsfan0099
03-28-2010, 01:25 PM
Sort of depends on the scenario...If Kindle or Graham are still there, then no. Otherwise, it would have to be a desperate team need.

From an overall prospect standpoint, Hughes definitely isn't worth the 29th pick. 39th, 49th...yes

Its not a desperate situation with the Jets, we need to improve the pass rush but we have a capable starter in Bryan Thomas at OLB right now, he just isn't much of a pass rusher.

RealityCheck
03-28-2010, 01:52 PM
He is, but the Jets have bigger needs at WR and maybe the offensive line.

RaiderNation
03-28-2010, 01:53 PM
He is, but the Jets have bigger needs at WR and maybe the offensive line.

Jets have the best oline in the NFL thats why they were able to win with a rookie QB

GoRavens
03-28-2010, 01:55 PM
I like Jerry Hughes a lot, but no way is he worth that high of a pick.
He's too much of a tweener, which is tough to translate over into the NFL.
I like Hughes a lot though, he's my favorite pass rusher this year but no way should he go in round 1.

JFLO
03-28-2010, 02:00 PM
I think the Jets main need is at pass rusher. It doesn't look like Vernon Gholston is going to pan out (at least not in NYC) and Bryan Thomas isn't going to be a consistent threat to the opposing pocket. I also think they'll look hard at Jared Odrick as a 5-Tech.

Also safety

thetedginnshow
03-28-2010, 02:01 PM
We'd be lucky if he falls to us.

jetsfan0099
03-28-2010, 02:30 PM
Interesting that some say he won't be there and some say hes a 2nd round pick.

DeepThreat
03-28-2010, 02:50 PM
He is definitely worth the pick as a pass rusher. He doesn't offer much else, but to a 3-4 team he has a lot of value.

V.I.P
03-28-2010, 03:05 PM
Jets have the #1 running game, and #1 defense in the NFL thats why they were able to win with a rookie QB

Fixed it for ya.

toddmlazarchick
03-28-2010, 03:39 PM
Im hoping if we go Okung in the first we can take Hughes to be our pass rushing OLB along with Orakpo in our 3-4

BroadwayJoe10
03-28-2010, 11:08 PM
Fixed it for ya.

Not for nothing, but you don't just fall backwards into the #1 running game in the league. You earn it by having a coach and team who is dedicated to running the ball (600+ times) and having one of the best Olines in the league, which is compiled of 4 first rounds picks.

I agree that the #1 defense and running game didn't hurt though ;)

holt_bruce81
03-28-2010, 11:24 PM
He'll probably be gone by the 29th pick. Yes he's worth it if he'd there.

SaintsMan
03-29-2010, 03:48 AM
Hughes is the #1 guy i'm hoping is there for the Saints at 32.

prock
03-29-2010, 01:01 PM
Hughes could go earlier than 29 pretty easily.

J-Mike88
03-29-2010, 02:06 PM
Hughes is easily worth it, in fact, I want him to be the #23 pick.


3-4 OLB Combine or Pro Day Number Comparisons:

Shawne Merriman 6-4, 272, 4.64, X, X, 4.21 20-shuttle, 25 bench, 40 vertical
LaMarr Woodley 6-1 1/2, 266, 4.74, 2.72, 1.65, 4.42 20-shuttle, 29 bench, 38 vertical,
Vernon Gholston 6-3, 266, 4.65, 2.65, 1.53, 4.40 20-shuttle, 7.12 3-cone, 37 bench, 42 vertical
Larry English 6-2, 255, 4.74, 2.71, 1.59, 4.38 20-shuttle, 7.26 3-cone, 24 bench, 36 vertical
Brian Orakpo 6-3, 263, 4.63, 2.6, 1.56, 4.45 20-shuttle, 7.26 3-cone, 31 bench, 39 vertical
Clay Matthews 6-3, 240, 4.58, 2.68, 1.58, 4.18 shuttle, 6.90 3-cone, 23 bench, 35 vertical
Brad Jones (PD) 6-2 3/4, 232, 4.54, 2.56, 1.59, 4.21 shuttle, 6.75 3-cone, 19 bench, 33 vertical

Jerry Hughes 6-2, 255, 4.65, 2.63, 1.63, 4.15 shuttle, 6.99 3-cone, 26 bench, 34 vertical
Brandon Graham 6-1 1/2, 268, 4.71, 2.69, 1.61, X, X, 31 bench
Sergio Kindle 6-2 3/4, 250, 4.65, 2.69, 1.65, 4.53 shuttle, 7.26 3-cone, 25 bench, 36 vertical
Ricky Sapp 6-3 3/4, 252, 4.65, 2.62, 1.60, 4.41 shuttle, 7.29 3-cone, 23 bench, 34 vertical
Koa Misi 6-2 1/2, 251, 4.75, 2.76, 1.64, 4.27 shuttle, 7.07 3-cone, X bench, 38 vertical

J-Mike88
03-29-2010, 02:09 PM
I like Jerry Hughes a lot, but no way is he worth that high of a pick.
He's too much of a tweener, which is tough to translate over into the NFL.
..... no way should he go in round 1.

Compare his size, strength, weight, and 40, 20, and shuttle times to Clay Matthews last year and tell me why he's too much of a tweener.
His quick times compare favorably, and he's bigger and stronger than Matthews. That's just the numbers. On the field, Hughes gets to the QB.

Compare Hughes numbers to last year's 1st round pick Larry English.

I just posted all the combine numbers.

SenorGato
03-29-2010, 08:59 PM
The Jets aren't taking another OLB in the first round to sit behind 3 other guys, especially with so much other DE/OLB talent to grab later.

jetsfan0099
03-30-2010, 03:20 PM
The Jets aren't taking another OLB in the first round to sit behind 3 other guys, especially with so much other DE/OLB talent to grab later.

To sit behind 3 guys? Who is the 3rd guy? Vernon Gholston if you are saying him is terrible and should have been cut already, the guy isn't better than practice squad players. The only reason he is on the team is because he was that 6th overall pick which is one of the biggest reasons for needing a rookie cap.

Bryan Thomas isn't much of a pass rusher, he had a whooping 2 sacks last season.


The Jets are going to take best available player and if Hughes is that guy they'll take him. Bryan Thomas and Calvin Pace are both in their 30s and like I mentioned before Thomas isn't a good pass rusher. Pace was the only one that could get after the QB, so the need is there.

Hughes fits the style that Rex likes, the passion and intensity for the game along with the motor and athletic ability to play multiple spots.

Its sad when your leaders in QB hits are your ILBs.

bitonti
03-30-2010, 03:34 PM
i like jerry hughes but it should be noted he got his sacks against no bodies and non prospects. Graham beat real players and is a better prospect.

people talk about clay matthews... he played at a top notch program... tcu didn't play any left tackles worth talking about

jetsfan0099
03-30-2010, 05:49 PM
i like jerry hughes but it should be noted he got his sacks against no bodies and non prospects. Graham beat real players and is a better prospect.

people talk about clay matthews... he played at a top notch program... tcu didn't play any left tackles worth talking about

I don't expect Graham to be on the board at #29.

regoob2
03-30-2010, 06:25 PM
End of the first is where a lot of teams reach for need. Even if he wasnt, he's close enough.

SenorGato
03-30-2010, 06:48 PM
To sit behind 3 guys? Who is the 3rd guy? Vernon Gholston if you are saying him is terrible and should have been cut already, the guy isn't better than practice squad players. The only reason he is on the team is because he was that 6th overall pick which is one of the biggest reasons for needing a rookie cap.

Bryan Thomas isn't much of a pass rusher, he had a whooping 2 sacks last season.


The Jets are going to take best available player and if Hughes is that guy they'll take him. Bryan Thomas and Calvin Pace are both in their 30s and like I mentioned before Thomas isn't a good pass rusher. Pace was the only one that could get after the QB, so the need is there.

Hughes fits the style that Rex likes, the passion and intensity for the game along with the motor and athletic ability to play multiple spots.

Its sad when your leaders in QB hits are your ILBs.

1. Our players on D are not defined by the amount of sacks they get.

2. Gholston's still there, no matter how big of a bust 2 year vet/24 year old is.

3. Luckily, Hughes probably won't be the BPA.

4. Calvin Pace isn't in his 30's.

5. Passion and intensity are nice, but cliches suck.

6. No, it's not sad when your ILBs are leading in QB hits. It just is.

7. We're still not spending another first round pick on a guy won't start at one of the few positions we actually have young, first round depth at.

jetsfan0099
03-30-2010, 08:11 PM
1. Our players on D are not defined by the amount of sacks they get.

2. Gholston's still there, no matter how big of a bust 2 year vet/24 year old is.

3. Luckily, Hughes probably won't be the BPA.

4. Calvin Pace isn't in his 30's.

5. Passion and intensity are nice, but cliches suck.

6. No, it's not sad when your ILBs are leading in QB hits. It just is.

7. We're still not spending another first round pick on a guy won't start at one of the few positions we actually have young, first round depth at.

Pace is 29 and turns 30 in October, close enough to 30.

Define it anyway you want, but sacks or pressure our guys weren't getting much without sending the 5-7 guys.

So because we have a bust that will be cut after this season we shouldn't address the position?

Your OLB or DL should be getting pressure on the QB, when they barely could get to the QB it is a problem. Like what happened against the Colts and the Patriots (2nd game).

The Jets could go DE 1st round with them needing to grab a starter there, but I wouldn't be surprised if they went with a OLB/DE that can get after the QB. I don't expect Bryan Thomas here much longer, I think he has 2 years left on his contract and Gholston will be gone after this year unless he makes a huge jump which I don't expect.
Jets haven't had a legit edge rusher since Abe.

BuffaloBillsFan
03-30-2010, 08:22 PM
I think he is worth it.

waazup
03-30-2010, 11:14 PM
I'm really hoping he falls to the Saints at #32. The Cardinals, Jets, and Colts look to be our main competition.

SenorGato
03-30-2010, 11:17 PM
I'd much rather hope Terrence Cody falls to us.

thetedginnshow
03-30-2010, 11:21 PM
You'd have to be blind to think the Jets were good at getting pressure this season.

SenorGato
03-30-2010, 11:31 PM
You'd have to be blind to think the Jets were good at getting pressure this season.

Sorry, what? Our D got pressure last year, what killed us was losing the interior pass rush that Kris Jenkins gives us.

derza222
03-31-2010, 12:23 AM
The Jets did get pressure last season, but IMO it was more due to scheme and overloads than individual players. Having somebody who can consistently get pressure by beating the player across from them instead of being placed in a favorable matchup that may make the defense more vulnerable elsewhere would be nice. However, I will agree that they may not think it is something worth addressing. We'll see, but for the time being I pretty much trust what this regime is going to do in terms of the defense so I'll be okay with it either way as long as we keep building in the trenches to an extent.

KingmanIII
04-04-2010, 03:25 PM
He'd be a perfect fit in the Chiefs' 3-4 at #36.

cajuncorey
04-04-2010, 06:22 PM
jets will use that pick on everson griffin