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Grizzlegom

03-16-2007, 10:07 AM

What don't you like about Maroney kid is a beast?

he plays for the patriots.

but the main reason is because when minnesota came to penn state everyone was hyping maroney as a potential heisman candidate and saying he would run all over our defense and they would kill us. he ended up running for like 24 yards on 15 carries or something like that but the whole thing just made me hate him.

Splat

03-16-2007, 10:14 AM

he plays for the patriots.
but the main reason is because when minnesota came to penn state everyone was hyping maroney as a potential heisman candidate and saying he would run all over our defense and they would kill us. he ended up running for like 24 yards on 15 carries or something like that but the whole thing just made me hate him.

I can live with that.

draftguru151

03-16-2007, 10:15 AM

Rushing yards I'll take Maroney. Yards from scrimmage I'll take Bush.

bernbabybern820

03-16-2007, 10:15 AM

if Bush can gain around 10 yards he'll have a great year. Too many players tackled him with one hand.

bsaza2358

03-16-2007, 10:17 AM

I think Bush, White, Maroney, Addai, and MJD will all have great years. In terms of actual production, I foresee Maroney and Addai having the most success because there is really no one else to steal touches from them.

Freddy G

03-16-2007, 10:54 AM

Draft King

03-16-2007, 11:38 AM

MJD is going to have the biggest year of them all, with Fred Taylor getting older and having less carries, Jones-Drew will be forced the carry the load.

jkpigskin

03-16-2007, 11:53 AM

wierd that everyone except maroney will be sharing time....

so i say maroney

Geo

03-16-2007, 11:58 AM

New England - Laurence Maroney
[Home] Buffalo, Miami, N.Y. Jets, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, San Diego, Philadelphia, Washington
[Away] Buffalo, Miami, N.Y. Jets, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Dallas, N.Y. Giants

Indianapolis - Joseph Addai
[Home] Houston, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Denver, Kansas City, New England, New Orleans, Tampa Bay
[Away] Houston, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Oakland, San Diego, Baltimore, Atlanta, Carolina

New Orleans - Reggie Bush
[Home] Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, Arizona, St. Louis, Philadelphia, Jacksonville, Tennessee
[Away] Atlanta, Carolina, Tampa Bay, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, Houston, Indianapolis

I think I just may vote for Reggie Bush, given the wonderful draw of the NFC West in addition to the six division games against the NFC South (all of whom can be run on). He plays with one of the league's best backs in Duece McAllister though, which isn't the case with Laurence Maroney and Joseph Addai. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if Maroney has the most rushing yards, Bush the most receiving yards, and Addai the most yards from scrimmage.

It's hard to gauge though considering there's some flux in how New England and Indianapolis will handle their RB situations following the departure of veterans. How many goal-line carries will Maroney see? How much of the load will Addai have to carry?

There are backs that should consider themselves lucky that they don't have to face the Jacksonville Jaguars, Big John Henderson and Marcus Stroud specifically, twice a year like Addai does. It was hilarious how everyone trumpeted Mo Drew over Addai in 2006, when Drew has the enormous benefit of facing the Colts twice instead of the Jags defense twice (269 of Drew's 941 rushing yards - 28.6% for crying out loud - came in 2 games against the Colts). Considering they also ignored that Drew also had the benefit of playing behind Fred Taylor and one of the best run-blocking offensive lines in football, it's all par for the course I suppose.

HawkeyeFan

03-16-2007, 12:02 PM

Mauroney now that he's the feature back in New England.

Mini Steven Jackson :)

Space Ghost

03-16-2007, 12:06 PM

My money is on Maroney because he will probably get the most touches out of all of those other guys.

Geo

03-16-2007, 12:13 PM

Maroney surprised me last year in that he was more hit-and-miss than I thought he'd be, especially with one of the league's better run-blocking offensive lines. I thought I was looking at a bigger Willie Parker at times, and I'm sure that frustrated head coach Bill Belichick.

But now that he has a year under his belt, especially in terms of getting comfortable with the offensive line, I expect him to improve and shine more often as we all think he can.

Non_Sequitur

03-16-2007, 12:18 PM

Leon Washington!

Actually, I would have voted for Jones-Drew, but you didn't list Washington despite the fact that he rushed for more rushing yards than Reggie Bush, Jerious Norwood, LenDale White, Wali Lundy, etc.

Rankings in rushing yards for their rookie years:

1. Joseph Addai - 1081
2. Maurice Jones-Drew - 941
3. Laurence Maroney - 745
4. Mike Bell - 677
5. Leon Washington - 650
6. Jerious Norwood - 633
7. Reggie Bush - 565
8. DeAngelo Williams - 501
9. Wali Lundy - 476
10. LenDale White - 244
11. Michael Robinson - 116
12. Jerome Harrison - 60
13. Brian Calhoun - 16
14. P.J. Daniels - 0
14. Cedric Humes - 0
14. Quentin Ganther - 0

How you couldn't even include Leon Washington was a severe lack in judgement.

You can say "Well he's not going to be a number 1 next year," but neither are Bush, Norwood, Lundy, or Bell. And three of those guys got less yardage than Washington. So that's not a legit argument.

Non_Sequitur

03-16-2007, 12:20 PM

wierd that everyone except maroney will be sharing time....

so i say maroney

Joseph Addai and LENDALE WHITE!!!

=P

Geo

03-16-2007, 12:29 PM

If Jerious Norwood could get the lion's share of touches in Atlanta, he'd be a more serious candidate in my mind.

LonghornsLegend

03-16-2007, 12:36 PM

im surprised addai has so few votes....he is the sole back with maroney, but he is an offense that will move more and gain more yards then almost all the others, and will focus alot of attention to the passing game, he can catch out the backfield, and is a workhorse type back, i think they were very happy he was still there, and i think he has the biggest year

gbpackers0065

03-16-2007, 12:46 PM

Lendale White but Jones-Drew is a close 2nd

Geo

03-16-2007, 12:50 PM

I have to say, Addai impressed me in not missing a game all year, despite getting nicked up as the season wore on. He played in 24 games, including the pre-season and post-season, which is twice that of the usual 12 in college. And add to that all of the work and stress placed into the pre-draft process by rookies, to get drafted as best you can.

throwback54milkman

03-16-2007, 12:56 PM

don't sleep on Leon Washington, he certainly won't have the stats of Maroney or Addai, but i guarantee he will be a major factor in the Jets passing and running game next season.

Splat

03-16-2007, 12:58 PM

Leon Washington!

Actually, I would have voted for Jones-Drew, but you didn't list Washington despite the fact that he rushed for more rushing yards than Reggie Bush, Jerious Norwood, LenDale White, Wali Lundy, etc.

Rankings in rushing yards for their rookie years:

1. Joseph Addai - 1081
2. Maurice Jones-Drew - 941
3. Laurence Maroney - 745
4. Mike Bell - 677
5. Leon Washington - 650
6. Jerious Norwood - 633
7. Reggie Bush - 565
8. Wali Lundy - 476
9. LenDale White - 244
10. Michael Robinson - 116
11. Jerome Harrison - 60
12. Brian Calhoun - 16
13. P.J. Daniels - 0
13. Cedric Humes - 0
13. Quentin Ganther - 0

How you couldn't even include Leon Washington was a severe lack in judgement.

You can say "Well he's not going to be a number 1 next year," but neither are Bush, Norwood, Lundy, or Bell. And three of those guys got less yardage than Washington. So that's not a legit argument.

Then vote other is it that hard and by the way no way he has the best year out of those other backs the whole reason TJ wanted traded is because he wanted the ball more.

Non_Sequitur

03-16-2007, 12:59 PM

don't sleep on Leon Washington, he certainly won't have the stats of Maroney or Addai, but i guarantee he will be a major factor in the Jets passing and running game next season.

He only started like 4 games and got 650 yards as a role player. My main beef with Mangini would be watching Leon tear off a couple nice runs, and then him go with Barlow for 3 straight plays and have us punt. That happened a lot.

Non_Sequitur

03-16-2007, 01:03 PM

Then vote other is it that hard and by the way no way he has the best year out of those other backs the whole reason TJ wanted traded is because he wanted the ball more.

If you are creating a rookie list it's best to include at least the whole top 5. Especially when including guys such as Lundy and White.

I realize you probably hate the Jets because we upgraded our head Coach and yall traded for a downgrade, but you should at least show some knowledge when you create a post. What's a poll if it doesn't include the top 5?

I'm sorry that you created a crappy poll when it could have been a good topic. But maybe you could take this a learn your lesson. It's not that hard to look up stats if you are planning to start topics.

Geo

03-16-2007, 01:06 PM

The Jets making a great trade for Thomas Jones just might have something to do with it.

Splat

03-16-2007, 01:06 PM

What ever you say homer Laurence Maroney is winning the poll and I would bet he would still be winning the poll even with LW on it so it doesn't really matter.

Non_Sequitur

03-16-2007, 01:08 PM

The Jets making a great trade for Thomas Jones just might have something to do with it.

Falcons have Dunn.
Saints have McAllister.
Jaguars have Taylor.

That's obviously not the reason. The little Chiefs fan is either a hater, or he doesn't know his football.

Non_Sequitur

03-16-2007, 01:08 PM

What ever you say homer.

Hahahaha.

Fine. Get all pissed off then. Not MY fault you botched YOUR topic. Lol.

Splat

03-16-2007, 01:11 PM

If the guy is such a great RB why did you guys trade for some one that will for sure start over him to me it seems like your coaching staff is not as high on him as you are.

Man_Of_Steel

03-16-2007, 01:14 PM

Maroney is playing for a solid team and is now the featured back. Maroney.

DeathbyStat

03-16-2007, 01:16 PM

he plays for the patriots.

but the main reason is because when minnesota came to penn state everyone was hyping maroney as a potential heisman candidate and saying he would run all over our defense and they would kill us. he ended up running for like 24 yards on 15 carries or something like that but the whole thing just made me hate him.

Wow you took the words right out of my mouth, I was at that game and I think gary russel actually gained more yards.

Non_Sequitur

03-16-2007, 01:34 PM

If the guy is such a great RB why did you guys trade for some one that will for sure start over him to me it seems like your coaching staff is not as high on him as you are.

If Lundy is such a great RB, why did the Texans sign an over the hill former Pro Bowler?

He made your list. =)

remix 6

03-16-2007, 01:35 PM

Maroney and here are the reasons

-im a slight homer..but i got many other reasons

-last year..our run blocking was not good..neither was playing calling..we seemed to be moving towards ZBS very slowly with a lot of zone runs

-Maroney faced 8 men in box because no threat at WR, now with Stallworth we can stretch field and keep the safeties back

-Maroney has tremendous ability..his weakness was he wnated to make big plays out of nothing a lot and not accept a 2-3 yard gain instead.

-Hes suprisingly strong for a guy his build and will only get stronger.we saw his stiff arms and he was top 5 in yards after contact behind Gore and Henry i believe..

-We have a top 2 QB and our playcalling/blocking will be better with Dillon gone and Maroney taking most of the load

stats wise i think Addai could be the best because of who he has but Maroney will be the better looking one :)
-fast
-quick
-strong
-wicked stiff arm
-he loves scoobe doo snacks

dhoe20

03-16-2007, 01:42 PM

I'm surprised no one is voting for Addai... I think him and Maroney will be close.

Splat

03-16-2007, 01:43 PM

If Lundy is such a great RB, why did the Texans sign an over the hill former Pro Bowler?

He made your list. =)

You your self as a Jets fan said you would have voted for someone other then LW and yet your mad he is not on the poll if a Jets fan would not vote for him want makes you think a non Jets fan would?

Non_Sequitur

03-16-2007, 03:31 PM

You your self as a Jets fan said you would have voted for someone other then LW and yet your mad he is not on the poll if a Jets fan would not vote for him want makes you think a non Jets fan would?

Just because I'd be voting for someone else, doesn't mean that Leon didn't deserve to be on the List.

Just because Reggie Bush was a lock to win the Heisman, doesn't mean you don't invite Leinart. Leinart still deserves to be mentioned.

You can't honestly believe that Leon shouldn't be listed. That logically doesn't make sense. You overlooked him.

Own up to your mistake, it's not like it's a big deal, we all make them from time to time. I mean hell, I made one when I overlooked DeAngelo Williams on my list of rookies (He should be 8 between Reggie Bush and Wali Lundy BTW, I'll edit that now).

SeanTaylorRIP

03-16-2007, 03:35 PM

Wali, Wali!!!

neko4

03-16-2007, 03:50 PM

I like Jones-Drew and DeAngelo, though I voted Drew. Bush and Maroney will still have good years but these two could start and dominante

Caddy

03-16-2007, 05:14 PM

Laurence Maroney

He finally gets to carry the full load unlike other guys like MJD and Norwood.

'cuse-213

03-16-2007, 05:17 PM

Leon Washington

princefielder28

03-16-2007, 05:17 PM

I like what Addai could do if he has a good number two back but Laurence Maroney will receive the majority of the carries in NE and they have a threatening passing game now so watch out!

eaglesalltheway

03-17-2007, 03:23 PM

Mo Drew with still be splitting time, but he should have a lot of overall yards.

Bush will have the most yards, period.

Maroney will have the most rushing yards, and probably by a significant margin as well.

That seems like it could be pretty accurate to me, but I voted for MJD, the guy is going to wreck people once he is the main guy in Jacksonville.

remix 6

03-17-2007, 03:27 PM

everyone..take down your votes of Maroney. some guy is saying Leonard is equally as fast and quick as him and much better RB

marks01234

03-17-2007, 07:11 PM

Maroney >>> Bush

jetsfan3

03-17-2007, 07:14 PM

Not even Leon Washington on the poll? :(

It could be Maroney, or Jones-Drew. I voted Jones-Drew just because he is a beast. And also, out of College he was known as just Maurice Drew, at least on this forum. Was he always JONES-Drew?

remix 6

03-17-2007, 07:16 PM

hows Leon gonna be better than these guys when he wont split 50-50 with Jones?

bearsfan_51

03-17-2007, 07:18 PM

I love how people speak in definitives as if any of us have a ******* clue what's going to happen.

cordscords

03-17-2007, 07:30 PM

Joesph Addai

Philliez01

03-17-2007, 07:30 PM

I like what Addai could do if he has a good number two back but Laurence Maroney will receive the majority of the carries in NE and they have a threatening passing game now so watch out!

Indy doesn't have a threatening passing game?

What makes you think Maroney will do better than Addai without a #2?

remix 6

03-17-2007, 07:42 PM

Indy doesn't have a threatening passing game?

What makes you think Maroney will do better than Addai without a #2?

their ability..talent :)

SuperMcgee

03-17-2007, 07:47 PM

DeAngelo is going to break out and get plenty of time to shine

geaux tigers

03-17-2007, 09:42 PM

i could see Addai leading both yds rushing and yds from scrimmage. especially see how later on in the season peyton has been more willing in getting addai involved in the passing game.

1300yds rushing
60+ rec 500+yds rec.

America

03-17-2007, 09:44 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Mike Bell did. He'll probably manage 1300 yards and 6 TDs.
Maroney should get a lot, but with all the WRs the Pats are bringing in, it's looking like they'll be big on passing the ball. MJD, my favorite back in the draft last year, should get the most total yards. I don't think Bush will do that much. Carolina's line and running game isn't doing too well but Deangelo should be able to manage 900+ yards. I don't think Lendale has what it takes yet to be a gamebreaking feature back, even though there's no one on the roster to chalenge him. Joseph Addai should be looking to 1300 yards.

remix 6

03-17-2007, 09:46 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Mike Bell did. He'll probably manage 1300 yards and 6 TDs.

Travis Henry says hello MileHIGH

Scotty D

03-17-2007, 10:01 PM

Travis Henry says hello MileHIGH

Honestly I voted for Mike Bell in this poll forgetting that they signed Travis Henry. I still think he will be successful though.

Bobo

03-17-2007, 10:30 PM

I'll guess MJD. Speed and power were much better than I thought. Playing in the AFC South will help too.

I'd like to see DeAngelo Williams do well. He was fun to watch at Memphis.

RaiderNation

03-17-2007, 10:35 PM

MJD or addai

America

03-17-2007, 10:40 PM

Travis Henry says hello MileHIGH

Thanks, completely forgot about that. My vote goes to Addai then.

MP123

03-17-2007, 10:53 PM

Laurence Maroney because he will be the feature back. Guys like Addai and Bush play in a mutliback system. Jones-Drew is the backup behind Taylor, but should see a lot more carries next year. So it should be Maroeny, as the rest aren't really that good.

And also, where do I go to get sigs like the ones you guys have?

Philliez01

03-18-2007, 12:03 AM

their ability..talent :)

Addai is just as talented as Maroney is though? Addai was a 4.4 guy, has great hands, good cutback ability, not great moves though, always falls forward, good pass-blocker etc.

Also MP; Dominic Rhodes is gone leaving an untested DeDe Dorsey and CFL'er Kenton Keith as the main backups to Addai. Dorsey should have a minor role this season if they don't draft a RB so I'm unsure if it's a "multiback" system.

smittyjs

03-18-2007, 12:32 AM

I do think Lendale White will be in the top 4 in rushing yards for a second year RB.

soybean

03-18-2007, 04:24 AM

Non_Sequitur

03-18-2007, 04:28 AM

Not even Leon Washington on the poll? :(

It could be Maroney, or Jones-Drew. I voted Jones-Drew just because he is a beast.

My thoughts exactly.

draftguru151

03-18-2007, 09:19 AM

Addai is just as talented as Maroney is though? Addai was a 4.4 guy, has great hands, good cutback ability, not great moves though, always falls forward, good pass-blocker etc.

Also MP; Dominic Rhodes is gone leaving an untested DeDe Dorsey and CFL'er Kenton Keith as the main backups to Addai. Dorsey should have a minor role this season if they don't draft a RB so I'm unsure if it's a "multiback" system.

Addai isn't as talented at Maroney. Addai may put up better numbers but it won't be because of his talent.

remix 6

03-18-2007, 09:33 AM

R.I.P DWILL DNASH

03-18-2007, 09:53 AM

Laurence Maroney

Philliez01

03-18-2007, 10:30 AM

by talent i dont mean 40 yard dash..VJ and all that crap
i mean on the field. put Maroney in Colts offense and its murder

Maroney is faster on the field, quicker and is a homerun threat. Hes also got a crazy stiff arm

Addai is a great back but put them on the same team and Maroney will outshine him

I do agree with HR threat and faster (I'm indifferent on "quicker" as Addai hits the hole pretty hard but I guess we can agree to disagree there?) but wouldn't you agree with what was said earlier about Maroney's running style? He appeared to be hit or miss throughout the season, running sort-of like a scat back you know? He's obviously not one and can be a 1,500-yard rushing back but wouldn't you agree that he ran differently last season?

EdReedUnstoppable

03-18-2007, 10:32 AM

P.J. Daniels...........HA! jk

Its the guy I told yall was the best RB who came out last year Laurence Maroney!!!

remix 6

03-18-2007, 01:01 PM

I do agree with HR threat and faster (I'm indifferent on "quicker" as Addai hits the hole pretty hard but I guess we can agree to disagree there?) but wouldn't you agree with what was said earlier about Maroney's running style? He appeared to be hit or miss throughout the season, running sort-of like a scat back you know? He's obviously not one and can be a 1,500-yard rushing back but wouldn't you agree that he ran differently last season?

Maroney last year showed a load of talent..speed..strength..quickness and great acceleration and burst

his problem: he was impatient at times..if he didnt see the hole he didnt settle for 2 yard gain..he tried making a big play a lot . our OL/playcalling was very good as he was always 1 on 1 with a free man in his face as soon as he got the ball

i wouldnt say he ran like a scatback..he was given a lot of inside carries instead of plays better for his speed(outside runs maybe) he seemed like a balanced back who was a threat to break 1 every time and many of us were suprised with his strength because he never went down with 1 defender. He wasnt easy to bring down nor easy to chase because hes fast, strong and quick. i cant wait to see him add some bulk and more muscle without losing speed/quickness.

he came in kind of small looking..he was 217 lbs but he didnt look like it and didnt seem to have muscle defination .. his calves looked small and so did his arms

1 thing is he has to go with the NFL Diet and Nutrition program to eat the proper foods and gain some bulk. If he can get up to 225 with proper diet he'll be very good because he has room to be up to 230-235 without losing a lot of speed. hes suprisingly strong though for his build

http://www.mattspatsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/1159794884_0810.jpg

but to answer the question: he can run like a scatback..hits hole full speed, few lateral moves and gone but he can also run like Larry Johnson and other big backs