Best LT after last year?

[katnip]

I'd have to say D'Brick was pretty dominant last year pass/run blocking.

But who would you guys say is elite right now? From what I saw watching various games last year. Ryan Clady is top 5 right now

[Brodeur]

Mario Henderson.

[wonderbredd24]

Joe Thomas

[papa burgundy]

Joe Thomas

agreed....

[Matthew Jones]

Joe Thomas, Jake Long, Jared Gaither, Ryan Clady, Jordan Gross are my top five off the top of my head.

[umphrey]

Joe Thomas or Ryan Clady

Now that that Orlando Pace, Jonathan Ogden, Walter Jones are all gone there aren't any elite offensive tackles IMO.

[wonderbredd24]

Joe Thomas or Ryan Clady

Now that that Orlando Pace, Jonathan Ogden, Walter Jones are all gone there aren't any elite offensive tackles IMO.
Shutting down Jared Allen and Terrell Suggs to the point where you wouldn't know they were even in the game seems pretty elite to me. Joe Thomas is an absolute beast.

Jake Long is also good and D'Brickashaw Ferguson gets better by the year. And Michael Roos is underrated. He never gets much attention, but he's a great player.

[SenorGato]

D'Brickashaw because I'm a homer and he's underrated as heck.

[Thumper]

Elite Tackles
1. Joe Thomas
2. Jake Long
3. Michael Roos
------------------
Very Good Tackles
4. D'Brickshaw Ferguson
5. Jared Gaither

[Thumper]

Ryan Clady is super overrated.
Clady's 2009 stats: 8 sack, 6 QB hits, 20 Pressures
Clady's 2008 stats: 0 sacks, 7 QB hits, 37 Pressures

[Scotty D]

Elite Tackles

3. Michael Roos


Michael Roos and David Stewart are quite underrated.

[Michigan]

Jake Long and Joe Thomas, with Michael Roos and Ryan Clady not far off.

[Monomach]

Ryan Clady is super overrated.
Clady's 2009 stats: 8 sack, 6 QB hits, 20 Pressures
Clady's 2008 stats: 0 sacks, 7 QB hits, 37 Pressures

That's the difference between Cutler and Orton's mobility.

[yourfavestoner]

After next year:
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1210/nfl_a_monroe_300.jpg

I've always been a really, really big Marcus McNeil fan, too. Dude doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves.

[Supporting Caste]

Joe Thomas absolutely is on the level of Ogden, Pace, Jones, etc. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if he goes down as the best tackle of the past 20 years or so.

[gsorace]

Ryan Clady is super overrated.
Clady's 2009 stats: 8 sack, 6 QB hits, 20 Pressures
Clady's 2008 stats: 0 sacks, 7 QB hits, 37 Pressures

The only thing more meaningless than offensive linemen stats are cornerback stats.

But to answer the question, Joe Thomas is the best left tackle in the nfl

[umphrey]

Shutting down Jared Allen and Terrell Suggs to the point where you wouldn't know they were even in the game seems pretty elite to me. Joe Thomas is an absolute beast.

Jake Long is also good and D'Brickashaw Ferguson gets better by the year. And Michael Roos is underrated. He never gets much attention, but he's a great player.

Well I did say he is top 2 in the league. I just think last generation was better than this generation.

[keylime_5]

Clady and Thomas are the clearly the top 2 in the game right now. There's a bunch of good young LTs though. I love me some Mike Roos.

[vidae]

Ryan Clady is super overrated.
Clady's 2009 stats: 8 sack, 6 QB hits, 20 Pressures
Clady's 2008 stats: 0 sacks, 7 QB hits, 37 Pressures

Four of those were Tamba Hali! BEAST!

[Vox Populi]

Joe Thomas and it isn't even close. Roos and Clady were both worse in '09 than '08. I'd probably take Jake Long as the second best last year.

[fenikz]

Roos > Clady

1. Thomas
2. Roos
3. Clady

[descendency]

Joe Thomas

This. (10 chars)

How come no one mentioned Flozell Adams or Jason Peters??? :rolleyes:

[prock]

1. Joe Thomas
2. Michael Roos
3. Jake Long
4. Ryan Clady
5. D'Brick Ferguson
6. Jared Gaither
7. Jordan Gross
8. Bryant McKinnie (just kidding, settle down)

[the decider13]

That's the difference between Cutler and Orton's mobility.

I'm glad someone gets it. There were times last year that Orton fell when no one was touching him. His mobility is simply terrible. Cutler, on the other hand, was able to get away from the rushers.

[Vox Populi]

I'm glad someone gets it. There were times last year that Orton fell when no one was touching him. His mobility is simply terrible. Cutler, on the other hand, was able to get away from the rushers.

So you're saying Clady isn't as good as his rookie stats might say and that Cutler has mad "escapability", gotcha.

[tjsunstein]

Allen Barb.. no, TJ La.. no, Chad Clifto.. no. I can't even pretend to be a homer because of how poorly all the tackles played.

Joe Thomas, far and away.

[prock]

So you're saying Clady isn't as good as his rookie stats might say and that Cutler has mad "escapability", gotcha.

Well considering he gave up wayyyy less pressures his second year than his rookie year, you are wrong. Cutler was pressured more and gave up less sacks. Orton was pressured less and was sacked more. You analyzed that poorly.

[umphrey]

Allen Barb.. no, TJ La.. no, Chad Clifto.. no. I can't even pretend to be a homer because of how poorly all the tackles played.

Joe Thomas, far and away.

You can still be a WI Badgers homer

[DoughBoy]

NVM..

Go Michael RoooooooSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Nalej]

Joe Thomas and Jake Long are my top two.

My future homer pick is... Sebastian Vollmer.
Dude is a beast and will replace M.Light soon

[the decider13]

So you're saying Clady isn't as good as his rookie stats might say and that Cutler has mad "escapability", gotcha.

Yes, that's what is meant when I said that Orton fell down when no one is touching him.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm feeling the Roos love. Dude's been a beast since his rookie year. Because of him the Titans are always at the lower end of sacks allowed and he paved the way for Lenwhale to get 1100 + yards and a 2000 yard rusher.

And we got him for a second rounder. Beast.

[Saints-Tigers]

Titans line was maddd sick. Roos is the best run blocker IMO, and David Stewart is probably the best RT, and definitely the best in the run game.

I still remember that Chiefs game a few years ago where Lenwhale went 80 yards without being touched.

[GhostDeini]

This is either Jake Long or Joe Thomas.

Long brings more to the table so I'd pick him.

[Rosebud]

I'd still take Michael Roos, Joe Thomas, Ryan Clady, "brick", Long and BEatty in that order...okay Beatty isn't there yet but I fully believe he'll be a stud. For a guy as light and quick as he is he has a great feel for run blocking and can protect the blindside. Put 10-15 pounds on the kid and he's a star.

[vidae]

Titans line was maddd sick. Roos is the best run blocker IMO, and David Stewart is probably the best RT, and definitely the best in the run game.

I still remember that Chiefs game a few years ago where Lenwhale went 80 yards without being touched.

Ugh. You're not the only one. :(

[kmartin575]

Ryan Clady is super overrated.
Clady's 2009 stats: 8 sack, 6 QB hits, 20 Pressures
Clady's 2008 stats: 0 sacks, 7 QB hits, 37 Pressures

Pretty funny that almost half of Tamba Hali's sacks last year came against Clady (8.5 total, 4 against Clady). He would have had more if Clady wasn't constantly holding him all game.

[OzTitan]

Titans line was maddd sick. Roos is the best run blocker IMO, and David Stewart is probably the best RT, and definitely the best in the run game.

I still remember that Chiefs game a few years ago where Lenwhale went 80 yards without being touched.

Roos is generally considered an elite pass blocker but not so lofty in the run blocking ranks. He's solid but it's his quick feet and technique that makes him a great pass blocker; when it comes to cracking skulls in run blocking he isn't amongst the best really.

[yourfavestoner]

Roos is generally considered an elite pass blocker but not so lofty in the run blocking ranks. He's solid but it's his quick feet and technique that makes him a great pass blocker; when it comes to cracking skulls in run blocking he isn't amongst the best really.

David Stewart>Michael Roos

There. I said it.

[TitanHope]

David Stewart>Michael Roos

There. I said it.

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/omg-cat.gif

[JFLO]

I'm going with Joe Thomas. His performance last season was uncanny.

I agree that Clady lost his mojo when Shanahan left, but I think he has the talent to eventually get it all back.

[BmoreBlackByrdz]

if/when Michael Oher moves to LT, he should definitely be in consideration. Dude was a stud his rookie year at RT and switched over to LT flawlessly when Gaither went down.

[RealityCheck]

1. Thomas
2. Clady
3. Ferguson
4. Roos
5. Long

Honorable mention - Gross, Gaither, McNeill, Vollmer (homer pick)

[Splat]

The guy that was on a boat fishing when he was drafted is the best in the game right now.

[Go_Eagles77]

Jason Peters needs to step his game back up this year.

[Gay Ork Wang]

The guy that was on a boat fishing when he was drafted is the best in the game right now.
Joe Thomas!

[bam bam]

if/when Michael Oher moves to LT, he should definitely be in consideration. Dude was a stud his rookie year at RT and switched over to LT flawlessly when Gaither went down.

why even post this amalgam of hypothetical and homer?

[BmoreBlackByrdz]

why even post this amalgam of hypothetical and homer?

ummm...what?

[J255979-11nine]

Jason Peters needs to step his game back up this year.

So he should revert back to his '06 form? That's wishful thinking...

[wonderbredd24]

if/when Michael Oher moves to LT, he should definitely be in consideration. Dude was a stud his rookie year at RT and switched over to LT flawlessly when Gaither went down.
Flawlessly? That's a really strong word. Oher is a good tackle that should get better, but the guy had his problems with speed rushers.

[Cicero]

Joe Thomas
.

Easy choice.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

It's very difficult to rank offensive tackles unless you really analyze them in depth. But I'll say that the elite tier is Thomas, Clady, and Long. Haven't seen enough on Brick to fully comment on him. Also I could be forgetting someone.

And stats are complete and total garbage. As has been said here, Orton has a terrible pocket presence which contributed in part to Clady's rather high sack totals. Rushing stats are even worse, because people try to attribute them to an individual, when the fact is that a team is only as good at run blocking as their worst run blocker. Every single lineman has to make their block or the run gets blown up before it starts. I played OT for three years, so I know what I'm saying when I say this. Stats need to be looked at in context or they're useless, especially OL and defense stats.

[Malaka]

Joe Thomas... everyone else is irrelevant.

Clady is a bit overrated especially after Tamba Hali made him his baby back ***** and Jake Long is my #2 but he's not dominant like Thomas, plus I lol'd when I saw what John Abraham did to him this season.

Edit: I forgot about Roos, don't have much to say about him but he is under Thomas but in the upper echelon with Long and Clady.

[TitanHope]

Titans line was maddd sick. Roos is the best run blocker IMO, and David Stewart is probably the best RT, and definitely the best in the run game.

I still remember that Chiefs game a few years ago where Lenwhale went 80 yards without being touched.

I'd actually say Stewart is the better run-blocker, but having Jake Scott next to him helps him more than Roos having Eugene Amano at LG. Both have meanstreaks too, with Stewart definitely having the foulest demeanor of the two.

The scary thing is, I fully expect the Titans to be a better run-blocking team next year with the addition of Leroy Harris at LG and moving Eugene Amano back to C, his more natural position. Harris is gonna be a stud, and I think he can develop into the 3rd best OL on the Titans behind Roos and Stewart. He's got amazing athletic ability, even starting at RT for the Titans against the 49'ers, and has the power to go 1-on-1 against massive NT's as he showed when he started at C for the Titans against the Ravens in the Playoffs and was able to hold his own against Ngata. I'm expecting him to pull often and roadgrade for CJ.

[RufusMcDaniel]

David Stewart>Michael Roos

There. I said it.

To me it doesn't matter who is better, I'm glad we have both. :D

But I like what the Jags did last year solidifying their tackle positions.

[P-L]

Joe Thomas is probably the top tackle in the game right now. I think Jake Long is second best. I'm interested if Ryan Clady has a bounce back year this coming season.

[BlindSite]

Jordan Gross is vastly underrated if people have him under Ferguson. He's a top 5 easily along with Long, Clady, Thomas

[J255979-11nine]

Jordan Gross is vastly underrated if people have him under Ferguson. He's a top 5 easily along with Long, Clady, Thomas

Totally. And Chris Gamble and Richard Marshall are the best CB tandem in the league. Matt Moore is vastly underrated and is a future Pro-Bowl QB and Daunte Rasario is a stud in the making.


PANTHERS PANTHERS PANTHERS OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!!!!

[the decider13]

Totally. And Chris Gamble and Richard Marshall are the best CB tandem in the league. Matt Moore is vastly underrated and is a future Pro-Bowl QB and Daunte Rasario is a stud in the making.


PANTHERS PANTHERS PANTHERS OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!!!!

Yeah....except that Jordan Gross is a total stud and is a top 5 tackle.

1. Thomas
2. Clady
3. Gross
4. Roos
5. Long

[BlindSite]

Yeah....except that Jordan Gross is a total stud and is a top 5 tackle.

1. Thomas
2. Clady
3. Gross
4. Roos
5. Long

Thomas
Long
Roos
Gross
Clady

[Hawk]

Totally. And Chris Gamble and Richard Marshall are the best CB tandem in the league. Matt Moore is vastly underrated and is a future Pro-Bowl QB and Daunte Rasario is a stud in the making.


PANTHERS PANTHERS PANTHERS OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHA i laughed really hard

I'd go

Thomas
Long
Clady
DBrick
Roos

[BUSTKUNTLAWL]

Joe Thomas is the clear best answer, IMO. This is why when the Browns suck very bad next season (sorry guys) they will be in a great position once they get an actual QB.

I've been impressed with how quickly Jake Long has been developed at LT. I really liked him out of Michigan, but thought he might take some time to really be great on the left side.

Overrated LTs:

1. Jason Peters
2. Jason Peters
3. Jason Peters

[BlindSite]

HAHAHAHA i laughed really hard

I'd go

Thomas
Long
Clady
DBrick
Roos
Roos is better than Clady in both facets of the game and Ferguson gave up 8 sacks last year.

Ferguson shouldn't even be in the discussion.

[J255979-11nine]

Roos is better than Clady in both facets of the game and Ferguson gave up 8 sacks last year.

Ferguson shouldn't even be in the discussion.

A rookie QB adjusting to making NFL reads, the speed of the game, and the overall environment around him is in no way going to impact the amount of sacks recorded against him. :roll:

[BaLLiN]

D'Brick is getting overrated, he's good, he's not top 5. Regardless of the stats, he didn't always hold his own. Didn't they use a TE/RB often to chip so Ferguson wouldn't be as bad? (thought i read this in the jets board)

I also agree with Blindsite, despite his previously notorious homerism. He's not exaggerating.

[senormysterioso]

Joe Thomas is probably the top tackle in the game right now. I think Jake Long is second best. I'm interested if Ryan Clady has a bounce back year this coming season.

Isn't Clady out for an extended period maybe even the season? I thought he tore up his knee playing basketball a week or two ago.

[gsorace]

Roos is better than Clady in both facets of the game and Ferguson gave up 8 sacks last year.

Ferguson shouldn't even be in the discussion.

How many Jets game did you watch last season? Also he only gave up 6 sacks, the same as Jordan Gross, not that it matters because stats for offensive linemen are completely meaningless.

[BlindSite]

How many Jets game did you watch last season? Also he only gave up 6 sacks, the same as Jordan Gross, not that it matters because stats for offensive linemen are completely meaningless.

He gave up 8, gross gave up 5.

I watched about 7 games incl playoffs.

Stats might be meaningless whatever, but he's not as good in pass protection and he's not as good as a run blocker.

[scottyboy]

http://natalielefler.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/taylorlawrence21.jpg

the best LT after ever year

[yourfavestoner]

Thomas
Long
Roos
Gross
Clady

I think people forget about Gross because he's switched back and forth from LT and RT so many times earlier in his career.

[wordofi]

It's got to be Joe Thomas. I believe that he held James Harrison, Jared Allen, and Terrell Suggs sackless in 2009.

[fear the elf]

EDIT: nvm10char

[Addict]

http://www.studyofsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/backus.jpg
it's jeff back--

...

who the hell am I kidding? Joe Thomas baby.

[zachsaints52]

Hard to go against Mr. Thomas.

[WinslowBodden]

Robert Gallery.

[Bengals78]

I honestly think it is Joe Thomas by default.
He is better overall than just about any other LT right now.
He has no glaring weakness, could he get better in the run game? Of course but he is good enough it isnt a liability.

The best LT in the game is a Joe Thomas - Andrew Whitworth hybrid I have developed....

[SenorGato]

Roos is better than Clady in both facets of the game and Ferguson gave up 8 sacks last year.

Ferguson shouldn't even be in the discussion.

Yea, OK. I don't see anyone listed above him as better than him...most of those guys are getting on there just because once you're considered a good LT/OL you're pretty much set there until you start obviously declining.

Ferguson is a top tier LT. I don't even know where 8 sacks comes from...

[Bengals78]

http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=&surn=ferguson&playerid=2949

PFF has him at 6 sacks.

[bigbluedefense]

The most overrated LT in the league is probably Jason Peters. He has been very disappointing the past 2 years.

The most underrated is probably a 3 way tie between Jordan Gross, Michael Roos, and Marcus McNeil.

Shout out to D'Brick too for that underrated title.

[GhostDeini]

D'Brick belongs nowhere in this thread.

[SenorGato]

D'Brick belongs nowhere in this thread.

D'Brick >>>>>>> Gross

[GhostDeini]

To hell with Gross.

I'ma Jake Long man myself. Best all around LT in the biz. Quickest first step off his stance in the league and monster run blocker. Doesn't get any better than that.

[stephenson86]

To hell with Gross.

I'ma Jake Long man myself. Best all around LT in the biz. Quickest first step off his stance in the league and monster run blocker. Doesn't get any better than that.

http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/JoeThomasGoneFishing.jpg

Oh Haiiiiiiiii

[TheMorningZoo]

1. Joe Thomas
2. Jordan Gross
3. Roos
4. Jake Long
5. Ryan Clady
6. D'Brick

[LonghornsLegend]

The most overrated LT in the league is probably Jason Peters. He has been very disappointing the past 2 years.

The most underrated is probably a 3 way tie between Jordan Gross, Michael Roos, and Marcus McNeil.

Shout out to D'Brick too for that underrated title.


I remember how I wanted Dallas to find a way to trade for Peters if we had the cap room to do it badly, this is pretty much why I'm happy going with the guy you developed in house vs giving up the house for another LT.


Gaithers situation may not end up the same way if he was traded, but that whole Peters situation made me shy away from trading for those type of players. Typically if their a legit LT they don't get traded anyway.

[DoughBoy]

I like how everyone in this thread pretends to know who the best LT in the game is.

[gsorace]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/bills_de_says_brick_wall_f4GLnxtV8WDXIk2HDvhDcP

When asked about Jets left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Schobel said, "He's playing as good as anybody at that position. He's definitely playing quite a bit better than he has the last few years."

Schobel ranked him with Cleveland's Joe Thomas and Miami's Jake Long as the NFL's top tackles.

"He could be the best," Schobel said of Ferguson. "He's definitely up there. I think he's definitely in the top three."

[bigbluedefense]

I remember how I wanted Dallas to find a way to trade for Peters if we had the cap room to do it badly, this is pretty much why I'm happy going with the guy you developed in house vs giving up the house for another LT.


Gaithers situation may not end up the same way if he was traded, but that whole Peters situation made me shy away from trading for those type of players. Typically if their a legit LT they don't get traded anyway.

I actually loved Gaithers lol. The difference between him and Peters were the circumstances. Peters had an awful year and was being shopped with little to no depth behind him. Plus Buffalo was being cheap.

Gaithers on the other hand, had a great year, and Baltimore had the luxury of letting him go bc they have Oher. They didn't want to pay Gaithers when they already have Oher on the team. He became expendable.

I know Gaithers has a reputation for being lazy, and was injured last year, but damn, the proof is in the pudding, the guy can play. I'd give up a late first for him in a heartbeat.

I'm still furious we didn't land him. He was a 5th round pick! A 5th! What a steal.

[Brodeur]

I honestly think it is Joe Thomas by default.
He is better overall than just about any other LT right now.
He has no glaring weakness, could he get better in the run game? Of course but he is good enough it isnt a liability.

The best LT in the game is a Joe Thomas - Andrew Whitworth hybrid I have developed....

Could he get better in the run game? He's probably the best run blocking tackle in the league.

[GhostDeini]

Could he get better in the run game? He's probably the best run blocking tackle in the league.

You have to be kidding, right ? There is no way in hell Joe Thomas is the best run blocking LT in the game. He just isn't.

Jake Long or even Michael Roos can make that claim that but certainly not Thomas.

[The Legend]

Ryan Clady is super overrated.
Clady's 2009 stats: 8 sack, 6 QB hits, 20 Pressures
Clady's 2008 stats: 0 sacks, 7 QB hits, 37 Pressures

where can i get a site that shows OL stats?