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diabsoule
06-03-2010, 09:15 PM
http://www.dailycamera.com/top-sports/ci_15222068

Here and a Rivals site have both reported that Pac-10 is preparing to invite Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Colorado, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State. There is no timetable yet but it is sometime "in the near future". If this happens, and those six teams accept, it would dramatically alter the landscape of college athletics.

YAYareaRB
06-03-2010, 09:22 PM
what are the chances one of them actually accepts?

JFLO
06-03-2010, 09:25 PM
I think the biggest chance to accept would be Colorado, but I don't see it happening with any team.

If only Boise State, Utah or BYU would get a Pac-10 offer. Or TCU to the Big 12...

If Texas ends up going independent or to the Pac-10 or whatever, then TCU would be a lock to the Big 12 then right?

diabsoule
06-03-2010, 09:30 PM
The reason for the discussions have stemmed from previous talks between the two conferences discussing a merger of sorts so that they could share revenue and tv rights. This move would just consolidate power making them one of, if not the, elite conference in NCAA football.

I think the Big XII schools will definitely consider a move over. If that happens the Big XII would cease to exist and you could all but guarantee that the Big 10 would then go after Missouri and Nebraska, which those two would no longer have to pay the exit fees. Only Big XII teams left then would be Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas State.

This is definitely a situation that will need to be paid close attention to.

wonderbredd24
06-03-2010, 09:31 PM
what are the chances one of them actually accepts?
If they do, it only confirms that Nebraska and Missouri are going to the Big Ten.

This certainly makes sense with all the talk of expansion, the PAC-10 and Big XII seemed left out, so why not just join together and make one super conference to compete with the new Big Ten and the SEC

I don't think it's gonna happen, but it would make sense.

YAYareaRB
06-03-2010, 09:36 PM
I hope the MW keeps the nucleus of Utah, BYU, and TCU whether or not we get Boise.

wonderbredd24
06-03-2010, 09:37 PM
I hope the MW keeps the nucleus of Utah, BYU, and TCU whether or not we get Boise.
I think the PAC-10 is trying to go big, but if this thing doesn't work, the Mountain West is next.

The question to me is if the Mountain West gets Boise State, do they think they are better and potentially more profitable than the PAC-10?

YAYareaRB
06-03-2010, 09:54 PM
I think the PAC-10 is trying to go big, but if this thing doesn't work, the Mountain West is next.

The question to me is if the Mountain West gets Boise State, do they think they are better and potentially more profitable than the PAC-10?

I think we become better. I don't know about more profitable. Los Angeles really puts the Pac-10 over the top. USC is the professional team down there.

OneToughGame
06-03-2010, 10:06 PM
Rather have Boise State then Colorado in the Pac 10, That is of course if Colorado accepts.

YAYareaRB
06-03-2010, 10:11 PM
You Cant Take Them! You Cant You Cant You Cant!

diabsoule
06-03-2010, 11:43 PM
The Pac-10 would not invite Boise. Their just not big enough for what the Pac 10 is looking for. If the Broncos accept an invite to the Mountain West then I don't see why any of the MWC teams would bolt for the Pac 10 if both are BCS conferences. Doesn't make much sense then.

Smokey Joe
06-04-2010, 01:21 AM
I really don't see this going down. I think the Pac-10 is hoping for at least 1 school to accept but preferably two.

However, the only two I see with any chance of joining are Colorado and Texas Tech. These two teams have a lot more reason to bolt than the other teams.

Texas and Texas A&M seemed to be tied at the hip (IIRC, that is what ruled out A&M to joining the SEC if they expanded), and I only see them leaving if 1 of two things happen:

1.) The SEC expands and brings both Texas and A&M

or

2.) Texas creates their own network, becomes independant and A&M leaves for the SEC.

However, while I think Texas probably does want to become independant, they are probably hesitant and want to see if there are any changes to the BCS where independant teams are hindered.

This **** gets too confusing.

bearsfan_51
06-04-2010, 01:32 AM
Something is off about this rumor. There may be something to it, but not in its current form.

The Pac-10 requires unanimous consent to add anyone. Stanford and Berkeley are not going to sign off on adding crappy academic schools like Texas Tech and Texas A&M. How do I know? They tried to do it in 1990 and it was voted down.

bearsfan_51
06-04-2010, 01:34 AM
The Pac-10 would not invite Boise. Their just not big enough for what the Pac 10 is looking for. If the Broncos accept an invite to the Mountain West then I don't see why any of the MWC teams would bolt for the Pac 10 if both are BCS conferences. Doesn't make much sense then.
Money, prestige, television contract, and who said the MWC was going to be a BCS conference?

bearsfan_51
06-04-2010, 01:35 AM
The question to me is if the Mountain West gets Boise State, do they think they are better and potentially more profitable than the PAC-10?
I've never heard anyone ask this question. Where in the world would this profit come from?

diabsoule
06-04-2010, 02:12 AM
Money, prestige, television contract, and who said the MWC was going to be a BCS conference?

There have been discussions about adding the MWC to the BCS due to their performance on the field. Adding Boise State would only strengthen their case, especially if they are added before July 1, I believe.

Brent
06-04-2010, 06:33 AM
Stanford and Berkeley are not going to sign off on adding crappy academic schools like Texas Tech and Texas A&M.
http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf

sure about one, bud?

wonderbredd24
06-04-2010, 08:29 AM
I've never heard anyone ask this question. Where in the world would this profit come from?
Television.

With Boise State in the fold, the MWC would be in position to negotiate themselves a nice contract

According to the WAC President trying to make an argument for more bowl money, he showed that the WAC was doing better than the Big East and ACC in Television ratings and attendance. And that's the WAC. An improved Mountain West is going to be right in the mix and be able to negotiate themselves a nice TV contract.

bearsfan_51
06-04-2010, 11:28 AM
http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf

sure about one, bud?
Haha...I thought about you when I said that.

Yes, I'm sure. I didn't look at those rankings (bizarre methodology), but Texas A&M is the 53rd ranked research university in the U.S. according to the ARWU, which is the premier ranking system for academic research.

That isn't bad (certainly not Texas Tech or Oklahoma State bad), but I included A&M because Stanford has already turned them down for academic reasons.

bearsfan_51
06-04-2010, 11:29 AM
Television.

With Boise State in the fold, the MWC would be in position to negotiate themselves a nice contract

According to the WAC President trying to make an argument for more bowl money, he showed that the WAC was doing better than the Big East and ACC in Television ratings and attendance. And that's the WAC. An improved Mountain West is going to be right in the mix and be able to negotiate themselves a nice TV contract.
I would love to see the numbers that show that, on average, the WAC gets more T.V. viewers than the ACC.

diabsoule
06-04-2010, 12:07 PM
From Stewart Mandel's twitter:

"Beauty of the Pac-10's plan is that it doesn't affect travel as much as you'd think. Big 12 schools would make 1 West Coast trip per season."

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/9790/expansion-what-about-a-pac-10-big-12-partnership

Link provides information that a partnership and possible assimilation of the Big XII has been in discussions.

Below is a link that shows how the the tv ratings, revenue, attendance, and rankings are between the MWC/WAC, ACC, and Big East.
http://www.arentfox.com/email/fishel/BCS%20Revenue%20Discrimation%20Chart.pdf

Article the link is taken from which discusses the fairness of the BCS:
http://blogs.ajc.com/barnhart-college-football/2010/05/27/is-the-bcs-supposed-to-be-fair/

Brent
06-04-2010, 03:15 PM
Haha...I thought about you when I said that.

Yes, I'm sure. I didn't look at those rankings (bizarre methodology), but Texas A&M is the 53rd ranked research university in the U.S. according to the ARWU, which is the premier ranking system for academic research.

That isn't bad (certainly not Texas Tech or Oklahoma State bad), but I included A&M because Stanford has already turned them down for academic reasons.
yeah, well compared to Stanford, most school are relatively ******.

lowlife
06-04-2010, 06:48 PM
I see a lot of this as posturing.
The other big leagues making it known (via denied leaks) that they are prepared to be proactive.

Super conferences sounds cool, but will end up super ******.

Texas Homer
06-04-2010, 07:50 PM
I'd be fine with Texas to the Pac 10. I'd prefer Texas to the Big 10, but the Pac 10 sounds nice as well.

YAYareaRB
06-04-2010, 11:04 PM
Whats wrong with the BIG XII? they're are one of the best conferences in the nation. them and the SEC are my 1a and 1b

CashmoneyDrew
06-04-2010, 11:15 PM
If this happens, I guess the SEC will be coming for Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech and Clemson. Just pure guessing though.

YAYareaRB
06-04-2010, 11:26 PM
SEC should go after Tech and Clemson. Renew the Clemson and South Carolina rivalry. I remember the fight.

bearsfan_51
06-04-2010, 11:29 PM
If this happens, I guess the SEC will be coming for Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech and Clemson. Just pure guessing though.
I think Virginia Tech and West Virginia are probably the most likely. The SEC really doesn't need Georgia Tech and Clemson for anything.

CashmoneyDrew
06-05-2010, 08:19 PM
Well rivalries with SCAR and and UGA, but I don't really care either way. If we do expand, Florida St. and Miami are the must gets. Anything else is just icing on the cake.

wonderbredd24
06-05-2010, 08:22 PM
Well rivalries with SCAR and and UGA, but I don't really care either way. If we do expand, Florida St. and Miami are the must gets. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
That's been my feeling, especially since Florida State and Miami don't have a ton of loyalty to their current conferences.

Basically keeping almost all the Florida talent in the SEC seems like a worthwhile investment to me

diabsoule
06-06-2010, 02:42 AM
Baylor is pushing to make its case for inclusion into a merger with the PAC-10 instead of Colorado.

Also, Nebraska has been given a two week deadline to decide its fate.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1091406

Mr.Regular
06-06-2010, 06:32 PM
Why won't the realignments take place until 2012? I thought it would be the 2011 season but I read on ESPN that's not the case. What's the deal?

PS let me see if I'm getting this straight... the Pac10 is looking to take the big players of the Big12 south...the Big 10 has their eyes on Missouri/Nebraska and hopefully Notre Dame...and we're then expecting the SEC to take some ACC schools?
Am I getting this right? Where will that leave everything? After the dust settles will there only be 4 mega conferences?

BPhilb
06-06-2010, 10:42 PM
Why won't the realignments take place until 2012? I thought it would be the 2011 season but I read on ESPN that's not the case. What's the deal?

PS let me see if I'm getting this straight... the Pac10 is looking to take the big players of the Big12 south...the Big 10 has their eyes on Missouri/Nebraska and hopefully Notre Dame...and we're then expecting the SEC to take some ACC schools?
Am I getting this right? Where will that leave everything? After the dust settles will there only be 4 mega conferences?


Yes..And the 4 conferece championship game winners will play in a 4 team playoff for the national title to be aired on one of the conference networks. We will finally get a playoff, but probably at the expense of 100 schools or so never having a chance to get in. The universities will control the money still and I wouldn't be suprised if this doesn' lead to the NCAA being disbanded down the road. Good times.

FUNBUNCHER
06-06-2010, 11:15 PM
4 super conferences would suck and we be almost as bad as when the NCAA only selected 32 teams to play for the nat'l championship in b-ball.

Texas has no real incentive to leave the Big 12; they and OU are almost guaranteed a spot every year in the NC with an undefeated season.

These BCS schools need to jump the broom and agree to an 8 team playoff for the NC and quit trying to cannibalize their competition.

wonderbredd24
06-06-2010, 11:18 PM
4 super conferences would suck and we be almost as bad as when the NCAA only selected 32 teams to play for the nat'l championship in b-ball.

Texas has no real incentive to leave the Big 12; they and OU are almost guaranteed a spot every year in the NC with an undefeated season.

These BCS schools need to jump the broom and agree to an 8 team playoff for the NC and quit trying to cannibalize their competition.
I tend to agree with you about UT and OU unless they are afraid of the Big XII falling apart which is why the conference is putting a proverbial gun to Missouri and Nebraska's heads and making them decide their future, but it's not about National Titles... it's about TV money and right now Texas and Oklahoma have the sweetest set ups in the country, which is part of the reason Nebraska and Missouri are unhappy.

I don't see why the bigger conferences would necessarily be a bad thing if only because it means conference play will be improved. Ohio State plays Notre Dame. Texas plays USC. Alabama plays Miami. I can dig it.

dannyz
06-06-2010, 11:26 PM
The way it looks I don't think the big 12 or the big East will be a conference anymore. Pac 10,SEC,Big 10,and a ACC/BigEast SuperConferences are left. Better competition. A question what happens to all the smaller NON-BCS Conferences like the WAC,MWC,MAC do they just jump into one of these 4 or what ?

bearsfan_51
06-07-2010, 12:09 AM
A question what happens to all the smaller NON-BCS Conferences like the WAC,MWC,MAC do they just jump into one of these 4 or what ?
Nothing happens to them, they stay as secondary conferences.

LonghornsLegend
06-07-2010, 12:14 PM
I have a few questions:


If this comes to happen, I'd want to know how the conference would be broken up. Is it scrambled all the way over, is Texas and OU going to be on the same side etc etc.



Also, is there going to be a conference championship game now? They would probably need to have one with this many schools.



I would just need more information on how this would shake out, divisions inside the Pac-10, etc etc. It's a bit confusing as of now.

thenewfeature06
06-07-2010, 12:18 PM
I think I saw today that AZ and AZ state would be in the other division with the 6 teams coming over...per ESPN

wonderbredd24
06-07-2010, 12:30 PM
I think I saw today that AZ and AZ state would be in the other division with the 6 teams coming over...per ESPN
The idea being that the Big XII schools would only have to make one coastal trip per year.

yourfavestoner
06-07-2010, 12:45 PM
Something is off about this rumor. There may be something to it, but not in its current form.

The Pac-10 requires unanimous consent to add anyone. Stanford and Berkeley are not going to sign off on adding crappy academic schools like Texas Tech and Texas A&M. How do I know? They tried to do it in 1990 and it was voted down.

The university presidents and chancellors have given the Pac-10 commissioner full authority to explore expansion options.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5257774

bearsfan_51
06-07-2010, 01:32 PM
Yeah I saw that. It's interesting. Obviously, schools like Texas Tech and Oklahoma State aren't going to do much for the academic reputation of the Pac-10 (which is undoubtedly important to them, especially schools like Stanford and Berkeley).

That said, the Pac-10 hired Scott because they were concerned about becoming less relevant in the big two sports. Adding the state of Texas would obviously drastically alter that.

bearsfan_51
06-07-2010, 01:34 PM
It's really still two conferences, under the banner of one giant TV network. The two conferences would only play each other once a year and in the championship game.

Not sure how it would work in basketball, but the Big East already has 16 teams if I remember correctly.

LizardState
06-07-2010, 02:02 PM
I think it's safe to say we can add this to the list of reasons to hate how big $ is altering the face of sports all over. Tradition be damned -- it's all about the benjamins.

The Pac 10 wants its own TV network, or a unique Pac 10 TV deal like the one the SEC has with CBS. Texas, just the mega-U. of Texas at Austin & not the entire U. of Texas system that encompasses TAMU & Texas Tech, wants it own network. Not gonna happen, but those were the plans.

Word in the street here in California is that all 10 Pac 10 schools will vote yea to take Colorado, big win-win for both there, Colorado U. would be a seamless academic merger with the Pac 10 schools with similar standards, & Colorado is motivated b/c they received the 2nd to last TV $ remuneration of the Big 12 last yr. And Boulder is a very liberal environmentalist town that would be right in there with U-Dub at Seattle, UCLA, Berkeley & Palo Alto.

ESPN said late last week that Baylor is looking to go somewhere too, Pac 10 or SEC, with the Pac 10 more likely. Nebraska looks like a done deal to be 12th member of the misnamed Big 10. Kansas & Kansas St. look to be the orphans here when it's all done, their AD looked scared shitless in his press conference last wk. He made a good point about geography being a big factor, Texas would for example have to travel >1,000 mi. round trip to play the West Coast schools, bad for the visiting teams any way you slice it. Look at the Hawaii Warriors & their W-L rcds, they have to deal with way too much travel to play in the WAC, factor in the travel expenses + insurance costs & that's a risky proposition for any program. If Texas just stands pat they can still rule the reorged Big 12 (Big 11? Big 9? Who tf knows) & post a huge TV profit from their gargantuan-sized athletic program, they're #2 in in the nation in total athletic dept. budget BTW, Stanford is #1.

When they start moving this could be the biggest change in college FB in many decades & is guaranteed to affect the BCS balance of power.

bearsfan_51
06-07-2010, 02:27 PM
The Big Ten won't stop at 12, especially if the Pac-10 goes to 16.

LizardState
06-07-2010, 02:43 PM
ESPN just speculated that the Big 12 will go OOB if the Pac 10 raids 6 of their members & all 6 move west. Also that the SEC will put the Big East OOB by taking some members, UWVA for sure & maybe Louisville, they want Florida St. -- the Seminoles & Miami are safe in the ACC..... for now. I could see the SEC taking Baylor if the Pac 10 doesnt, Waco, TX is a lot closer to the South than the Left Coast.

Mtn. West just announced they arent expanding

RealityCheck
06-07-2010, 03:02 PM
I hope it does happen.

Don't get me wrong, the Big 12 is one of my favorite conferences. Why do I want it? Because it would wreak some huge havoc in college football.

And I love riots.

LonghornsLegend
06-07-2010, 06:44 PM
I like how all this commotion about conference re-alignments are going on, yet we still can't get a damn playoff for CFB.


So do the conferences changes names also? Big 14? Pac16? That's gonna be weird as hell.

RealityCheck
06-07-2010, 06:52 PM
Pac-16 would be awesome.

bearsfan_51
06-07-2010, 07:20 PM
I like how all this commotion about conference re-alignments are going on, yet we still can't get a damn playoff for CFB.
I fail to see how one would lead to the other. If anything, the mega-conferences are a product of the extreme aversion to a playoff system by the major conference chairman.

D-Unit
06-07-2010, 08:57 PM
Is it the NCAA avoiding a playoff system? I always thought it was the big fish schools who didn't want it. They want to keep theirs comin'.

I love this. Anything to get closer to a playoff system works for me. This is a way to get a real champion.

LonghornsLegend
06-07-2010, 09:00 PM
I fail to see how one would lead to the other. If anything, the mega-conferences are a product of the extreme aversion to a playoff system by the major conference chairman.

I guess I just always hear from people in charge they are not sure how a playoff would work, and how many teams, etc etc, yet moving 6+ teams from numerous conferences and changing schedules seems easier. I don't know, they probably don't go hand in hand, just seemed ironic to me, and a playoff would make more sense to get worked out then all of this.


But then again it's all about the money.

bearsfan_51
06-07-2010, 09:13 PM
I guess I just always hear from people in charge they are not sure how a playoff would work, and how many teams, etc etc, yet moving 6+ teams from numerous conferences and changing schedules seems easier. I don't know, they probably don't go hand in hand, just seemed ironic to me, and a playoff would make more sense to get worked out then all of this.


But then again it's all about the money.
Sort of. It's all about the money to those conference commissioners. If they had a playoff, they would make more money total, but they would have to split it with everyone else.

This way, the Pac-10 and the Big Ten could potentially eliminate an entire conference, push the SEC/ACC towards eliminating another one, and consolidate even more control over television contract money.

Which should answer your question D. This is a conference commissioner decision. They run the BCS, not the NCAA.

soybean
06-08-2010, 01:24 AM
Well i guess this would bring more light to the pac 10 vs. SEC discussion.

If all 16 agree does it then become the pac-16? or would they just rename it altogether?

LizardState
06-09-2010, 12:40 PM
Well i guess this would bring more light to the pac 10 vs. SEC discussion.

If all 16 agree does it then become the pac-16? or would they just rename it altogether?

ESPN just speculated that the Big 12 will go OOB if the Pac 10 raids 6 of their members & all 6 move west. Also that the SEC will put the Big East OOB by taking some members, UWVA for sure & maybe Louisville, they want Florida St. -- the Seminoles & Miami are safe in the ACC..... for now.

If your HC is named Jimbo you belong in the SEC.

Stamper
06-09-2010, 06:04 PM
dude from orangebloods.com just said all 6 schools who got invited will join pac-10

critesy
06-09-2010, 06:37 PM
im so behind in all this stuff, but when would it take affect.. like this year or when they future schedules or what.. i have no clue.

wogitalia
06-09-2010, 10:46 PM
Seems pretty interesting.

Haven't seen it mentioned, but would it make any sense for the MWC to snap up the other 4 Big 12 leftovers saying all the expansion happened.

Kansas at the very least would give the MWC a legitimate basketball powerhouse and you would think for the smaller scale schools involved the MWC would be better than being independent. Baylor and TCU could even work on a nice in state rivalry, you bring Kansas and Kansas State. Iowa State are the real leftover, but make the numbers nice, if they get Boise though that changes I guess.

dannyz
06-09-2010, 10:51 PM
The MWC should get a BCS Bowl bid if they added Boise,Kansas,Kansas St,Iowa St. The Big 12 is gone the MWC could also get Houston.

diabsoule
06-10-2010, 02:10 AM
The MWC should get a BCS Bowl bid if they added Boise,Kansas,Kansas St,Iowa St. The Big 12 is gone the MWC could also get Houston.

Outside of Boise State, those other schools only lessen the chance that the MWC would receive a BCS bid.

Ozzy
06-10-2010, 11:06 AM
What happens to Kansas? Hopefully they join the Big Ten, their basketball program has to be in one of the big conferences, even if their football is weak.

LonghornsLegend
06-10-2010, 02:49 PM
I'm still waiting to hear word on if they are expecting to announce a conference championship game. Seems the only logical choice, but I don't want to assume it'll happen.

Hurricanes25
06-10-2010, 02:54 PM
I'm still waiting to hear word on if they are expecting to announce a conference championship game. Seems the only logical choice, but I don't want to assume it'll happen.

If they do end up with 16 teams, I think they pretty much have to divide the conference up and have a championship game. Even a few months ago they were discussing a possibility of a championship game so it is very logical.

Go Cowboys
06-10-2010, 03:36 PM
Everything I am reading points to the Pac-10 wanting a Championship game. Same with the Big Ten.

If for some reason Colorado is the only school to go and Notre Dame goes to Big Ten.... Would Big 12 consider adding TCU to it or something?

CashmoneyDrew
06-10-2010, 03:49 PM
With the expansion they will definitely have a championship game. The football side of it in addition to the added revenue make it pretty impossible to pass up.

Go Cowboys
06-10-2010, 04:06 PM
This just happened:


Kansas' Athletic Director Lew Perkins just resigned

LonghornsLegend
06-10-2010, 08:15 PM
Everything I am reading points to the Pac-10 wanting a Championship game. Same with the Big Ten.

If for some reason Colorado is the only school to go and Notre Dame goes to Big Ten.... Would Big 12 consider adding TCU to it or something?

I was thinking about this, because I mean, not every school has to leave right? I know people assume if Texas goes the rest will follow, but what if a good number of Big XII schools stay put, or decline offers, couldn't they just offer TCU, Houston, Boise St or some number of teams to keep it going?


I guess it just seems logical that it'll be tore apart but I just wasn't sure.

I think schools like TCU and Boise should be able to jump in with one of the bigger conferences, or someone should send out an invite, they shouldn't continually get shafted year after year.



Anyone hear if Notre Dame is leaning towards the Big 10 also?

onejayhawk
06-11-2010, 01:36 PM
What happens to Kansas? Hopefully they join the Big Ten, their basketball program has to be in one of the big conferences, even if their football is weak.

One rumor is that Syracuse and Rutgers would join the Big 10, and that Kansas and either Missouri or Kansas State would replace them.

J

LonghornsLegend
06-16-2010, 09:37 AM
Looks like the demise of the Big XII was premature by everyone.

cunningham06
06-18-2010, 07:41 PM
Looks like the demise of the Big XII was premature by everyone.

I for one am really glad that's the case. Sure there would be some new interesting rivalries if UT were to join the Pac-10, but the current rivalries are just so damn good with OU and A&M. The Red River Shootout is always my most anticipated game of the year, not to mention an extremely fun game to go to.

I know OU was saying they would go where UT goes, but I'd hate to lose A&M.

diabsoule
06-19-2010, 02:43 PM
There are two ways the Pac10 can divide themselves and both are North and South.

There's Option A:
North
Cal
Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Washington
Washington State

South
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
UCLA
USC
Utah

and then there is Option B:

North
Colorado
Oregon
Oregon State
Utah
Washington
Washington State

South
Arizona
Arizona State
Cal
Stanford
UCLA
USC

I lean towards Option A myself.

diabsoule
07-27-2010, 06:45 PM
Larry Scott officially announced that new Pac 10 will be called Pac 12. "We like to be mathematically correct."

Paranoidmoonduck
07-27-2010, 06:50 PM
This is pretty exciting. I welcome an expansion of the Pac-10 and the invention of a championship game.