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D-Unit
06-16-2010, 07:10 PM
*This is an interactive activity that will allow us to get a forum wide's opinion on each team's draft. Please feel free to comment on your decision.

PRE-DRAFT NEEDS (according to Scott): #1 - CB| #2 - QB | #3 - OL

DRAFT PICKS:

Round 1, Pick 29 (29) Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 194 Boise State

Round 2, Pick 29 (61) Vlad Ducasse OT 6'4" 332 Massachusetts

Round 4, Pick 14 (112) (From Panthers) Joe McKnight RB 5'11" 198 Southern Cal

Round 5, Pick 8 (139) (From Seahawks) John Conner RB 5'11" 246 Kentucky

TRADES:

Jets receive:
Wide receiver Santonio Holmes

Steelers receive:
Fifth-round pick (No. 155):
Traded to Cardinals
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Jets receive:
Fourth-round pick (No. 112):
Joe McKnight

Panthers receive:
Fourth-round pick (No. 124):
Eric Norwood
Sixth-round pick (No. 198):
David Gettis
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Jets receive:
Fifth-round pick (No. 139):
John Conner

Seahawks receive:
Running back Leon Washington

Smooth Criminal
06-16-2010, 07:16 PM
I'm going with a C. This is a very average draft. I like Wilson alot. I don't think McKnight will work out. They had 4 picks and took two runningbacks, while having Greene and Tomlinson on the roster.

I like Holmes for them though. Theyre gonna need to find the money to sign him long term though.

SloppyJoe
06-16-2010, 08:06 PM
voted B (B-)

i really like Kyle Wilson

OL depth/potential starters are always good to me

2 RB with the last two picks.
They need a new Returner after Washington is gone and McKnight could be a good change of pace back for Green when LT is retired

i might went another direction with the last pick, but Conner is the type of RB Ryan really likes. for a running first team u can not habe enough quality backs


so for me overall the Jets did a pretty good Job with the few picks they had

Michigan
06-16-2010, 10:25 PM
Not much to comment on. I see a solid starter at CB, a fringe starter at OT, and two backup running backs. However, if you factor in how big of a steal the Holmes trade is, this draft gets a solid B.

SF Dolphin Fan
06-16-2010, 10:56 PM
The Jets have drafted well over the last few years, even when they haven't necessarily had a lot of picks. On face value this looks like a pretty average haul, but factoring in Holmes helps this draft. I'd say C+.

prock
06-17-2010, 12:09 AM
Love Holmes, love Vlad, like the Wilson pick, but nothing else was great for me. In fact, drafting Connor and McKnight was pretty ******* ********.

Abaddon
06-17-2010, 09:17 AM
Why all the hate for the Connor pick? How is dropping a 5 on one of the best, if not the best, FBs in the draft a bad pick? LT needs a lead blocker to be effective and Connor could be a really good one.

They got a really good CB in Rd1, who they'll need imo because Cromartie is...well...he's probably better as depth.

Ducasse should develop into a fine starter at LG.

Not enamored with the McNight pick, but he was a decent value there and made some sense.

Throw in the starting WR they got for a 5th round pick, and I had to give this one an A.

No real value complaints to be made. I dig it.

Abaddon
06-17-2010, 09:19 AM
PRE-DRAFT NEEDS (according to Scott): #1 - CB| #2 - QB | #3 - OL

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Texas Homer
06-17-2010, 10:11 AM
I voted (B).

AntoinCD
06-17-2010, 10:19 AM
Ill give it a low B(tempted to give it a C) because IMO each player is a downgrade on players they already had with the exceptions of Wilson.

Vlad Ducasse may well be the future at LG but he is a signficant downgrade from Faneca.

Replacing Thomas Jones and Leon Washington with Joe McKnight and John Conner is ludicrous IMO as well.

The acquisitions of LT, Cromartie, Holmes etc makes this a better than average offseason for the Jets but the draft was rather poor if you ask me.

LonghornsLegend
06-17-2010, 10:39 AM
I really love this draft tbh.


Kyle Wilson could of went #7 overall and nobody would of blinked an eye, another cover corner makes that defense even more dangerous and he's also incredible value, has #1 CB potential and he's opposite Revis.


Ducasse is a great pick who is going to be playing Guard, I think he can end up being very good and he's alot cheaper, and probably won't be any worse then Faneca would of been this year at his salary.


McKnight is going to be a great counter to Shonn Greene, he is an excellent receiver out of the backfield, and really what they needed. McKnight is going to be a weapon, and if they use him on screens, and outlets for Sanchez he'll be just what they need. They needed a guy like him, and got one.


John Conner is exactly what a power running football team needs, it's not flashy but he'll make things easier for everyone and continue to make them a smash mouth football team.


Throw in Santonio Holmes for a 5th, I easily give them an A. Not sure how they could get lower then a B to me, and I haven't handed out many A's. Looking at what they needed, the value they got, how many of these guys will start(Holmes, Ducasse, Wilson, Conner) and McKnight to have a huge role as a 3rd down specialist, there wasn't much better they could do.

killxswitch
06-17-2010, 11:06 AM
Solid B draft when Holmes is included. Wilson is an excellent pickup at 29, it might be really hard to throw much on the Jets in the coming years. Ducasse is a decent value at the end of the 2nd. The other two picks are just ok. C without Holmes, B with him.

Rosebud
06-17-2010, 11:13 AM
Kyle Wilson could of went #7 overall and nobody would of blinked an eye

That's just not true, if Kyle Wilson went #7 people would be arguing about who was a worse reach, Wilson or Alualu for weeks. I had Kyle Wilson's ceiling in the late teens as the highest he could go if a team got scared the Texans might take him.

killxswitch
06-17-2010, 11:14 AM
That's just not true, if Kyle Wilson went #7 people would be arguing about who was a worse reach, Wilson or Alualu for weeks. I had Kyle Wilson's ceiling in the late teens as the highest he could go if a team got scared the Texans might take him.

There were a number of people saying they liked Wilson over Haden. I wasn't one of them but they were out there.

Hurricanes25
06-17-2010, 11:31 AM
Replacing Thomas Jones and Leon Washington with Joe McKnight and John Conner is ludicrous IMO as well.


Connor is a FB so he's not expected to produce like Thomas Jones.

Anyways, I gave them a B-

Wilson- The more I think about it, the more I like the pick. We're not exactaly sure what we're going to get out of Cromartie and I think the Jets know that.

Ducasse- Faneca was quickly declining so an upgrade was needed. I like the pick and he was a great value at the end of the 2nd.

McKnight- Im not his biggest fan but since they parted ways with Leon, this was a logical choice.

Connor- It's no secret that the Jets are going to run the ball so why not grab the best FB in the draft with an old T-Rich on the roster.

I thought the Jets shoud have taken a defensive lineman somewhere in the draft but other than that, Im pretty pleased.

LonghornsLegend
06-17-2010, 11:55 AM
That's just not true, if Kyle Wilson went #7 people would be arguing about who was a worse reach, Wilson or Alualu for weeks. I had Kyle Wilson's ceiling in the late teens as the highest he could go if a team got scared the Texans might take him.

Doubt it.


There were numerous reports about Wilson being the #1 rated corner, and alot of scouts had him rated higher then the late teens. Cleveland needed a corner badly, and some people saw Haden more as a mid rounder at best. Alualu wasn't in contention for the best prospect at his position.

Rosebud
06-17-2010, 12:06 PM
There were a number of people saying they liked Wilson over Haden. I wasn't one of them but they were out there.

And there were some people who like Alualu as a top 15-20 pick, still doesn't mean that nobody even batted an eye when it happened. Kyle Wilson could've gone that high, but it would've been surprising is all I'm saying. And while he certainly had his fans, Jackson and Haden were commonly thought to be ranked higher by most scouts.

timewaster
06-17-2010, 12:12 PM
People trying to compare Connor to Jones or any running back.......... he is a fullback. Tony Richardson is like 40 years old. He is coming into replace TRich. This is like the LT replacing Thomas Jones thing, idiots everywhere.

I expect Slauson (last years 6th rounder) to start at LG this season. Vlad will likely be moved to Tackle for the 2011 season.

I give them a B+.

P-L
06-17-2010, 01:11 PM
Kyle Wilson falling to #29 was a bigger surprise to me than it would've been if he went #7.

LizardState
06-17-2010, 03:03 PM
Voted C, I agree w with smoothcriminal in that the Jets draft itself was just average. Add their other offseason FAs & they get a B+.

Kyle Wilson may find himself starting in the other (non-Revis) corner slot, they have current nickelback Dwight Lowery with a couple of yrs experience but he only weighs like 182 -- he will likely remain the nickel/dime pkg db or eventually become their FS. Wilson is the a real potential starter here, Vlad will get his chance to crack their starting OL since they dumped Faneca recently, they s/b bringing Vlad along gradually although it's said OG is the easiest slot on the OL to play as a rookie it will be a real baptism of fire for him.

Jets Super Bowl run? Could be, Ryan has made some decisive offseason personnel moves, he's slimmed down, rested, & ready!

RaiderNation
06-17-2010, 04:16 PM
Gave it a B. Love Vlad and Wilson picks. They will both be good players

Rosebud
06-17-2010, 05:15 PM
Kyle Wilson falling to #29 was a bigger surprise to me than it would've been if he went #7.

See I could've seen him in the mid teens but to me he was always the 4th rated DB after Berry, Haden and Thomas at best and as the offseason wore on I got to see more of Jackson and so come draft night he was on par with Wilson for me making Wilson the third ranked corner and 5th ranked DB on my board, he dropped a little, but when Houston passed on him for Jackson I saw a slide coming.

Mr.Regular
06-19-2010, 01:01 AM
Love the Wilson pick, that was a slam dunk.
Ducasse is also another solid one. Faneca was expensive and not that good anymore....Ducasse is cheap and loaded with potential. They already have one of the best, if not the best, OLine in the league so they could afford this move. I like it.
McKnight is a nice compliment to Greene, and Connor was a top fullback this class and could turn out to be a longtime starter for the team. Plus you have to factor in the Holmes trade. Another good deal for the Jets.
It has to be an A IMO.

'cuse-213
06-19-2010, 12:15 PM
What was with the first 10 posts in this? Apparently the Jets drafted 2 RB's in this draft.. news to me.

FlyingElvis
06-21-2010, 10:24 AM
I'd say an A- is in order. I'll give it an A in order to level off some of the ridiculous C and below grades.

They get a top corner at the tail end of round 1. Everybody and their sister on this site (me included) rips the Jets for overpaying for Cro because he's soft. Add to that the need for at least 4 good CBs in today's NFL and this pick is a no brainer.

Vlad is a monster. Great value again, as Faneca is ancient. This is the draft - it's unwise to expect starters right off the bat.

McKnight & Conner were both good picks. They replace old vets and injured players. LT is done - everyone knows it except him. His place on the roster should have no impact on drafting young RBs. Leon is going to miss time, so the Jets replace him with younger, cheaper talent.

This looks to me like a smart draft strategy which landed solid talent at excellent value. ******* Jets. :(

onejayhawk
06-23-2010, 03:32 PM
I went with C, but B is not out of line. They take a hit on quantity, and the day 3 picks are forgettable. Wilson was an ordinary pick, but not a bad one. Ducasse was the best pick, though Holmes as a 5th is excellent, if you score that way. Conner, as a FB, has possibilities.

J

Abaddon
07-04-2010, 07:29 AM
Old 06-23-2010, 03:32 PM

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