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JRTPlaya21
08-06-2010, 11:08 AM
USA Today Coaches' Poll

RK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS

1 Alabama (55) 0-0 1469 1
2 Ohio State (4) 0-0 1392 5
3 Florida 0-0 1245 3
4 Texas 0-0 1240 2
5 Boise State 0-0 1215 4
6 Virginia Tech 0-0 1052 10
7 TCU 0-0 1051 6
8 Oklahoma 0-0 1035 NR
9 Nebraska 0-0 1001 14
10 Iowa 0-0 952 7
11 Oregon 0-0 940 11
12 Wisconsin 0-0 778 16
13 Miami (FL) 0-0 728 19
14 Penn State 0-0 508 8
15 Pittsburgh 0-0 492 15
16 LSU 0-0 476 17
17 Georgia Tech 0-0 455 13
18 North Carolina 0-0 445 NR
19 Arkansas 0-0 438 NR
20 Florida State 0-0 374 NR
21 Georgia 0-0 312 NR
22 Oregon State 0-0 263 NR
23 Auburn 0-0 260 NR
24 Utah 0-0 169 18
24 West Virginia 0-0 169 22

Others receiving votes: Cincinnati 135, Houston 76, Brigham Young 66, Arizona 65, Mississippi 48, Clemson 44, Stanford 41, Connecticut 40, Notre Dame 38, South Carolina 38, Washington 26, Missouri 23, Navy 12, Oklahoma State 11, Boston College 10, Michigan State 10, Arizona State 6, California 6, Texas Tech 5, South Florida 4, Texas A&M 3, Temple 2, Northwestern 2, Mississippi State 1, Nevada 1, Northern Illinois 1, Central Michigan 1, Southern Methodist 1,

Smooth Criminal
08-06-2010, 11:42 AM
I really think this is one of the weakest times I've ever seen in college football. Last years preseason top 10 teams would slaughter this years.

Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma should expect to have worse teams than last year, Alabama looks the best in the nation, but still not as good as last year. Ohio State is improved, but not much, basically the same team as last year.

I guess it just looks weaker without big name QBs and a slew of returning Heisman winners.

JRTPlaya21
08-06-2010, 11:49 AM
It is pretty much the same teams minus USC. And I don't see last years LSU & Ole Miss teams slaughtering anyone.

jballa838
08-06-2010, 11:51 AM
throw these out. VT, OSU and Bama all go 12-1 we all know who the 2 teams in there will be because of this poll, and not how they play on the field. Cold world we live in...

Smooth Criminal
08-06-2010, 11:55 AM
It is pretty much the same teams minus USC. And I don't see last years LSU & Ole Miss teams slaughtering anyone.


Same teams, but with Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma all putting in new QBs I'm expecting them to be alot weaker. I seeing Florida and Texas in the top 4 with new QBs suprised me alot. Texas will likely cruise through a weak Big 12 however.

JRTPlaya21
08-06-2010, 12:16 PM
Us going 12-1? Yeah I can only pray for that. The games against, GT, UNC & at Miami are no cakewalks. And that is if we can beat a tough Boise team.

sbh15
08-06-2010, 01:25 PM
honestly, i'm surprised to see uf that high. however, i guess the pollsters think like me. i'd be willing to say that if john brantley were uf's starting qb last season, we would have won the national championship. he just fit the personell we had so much better than tebow. this season, we unfortunately will have to play bama at least once with a re-tooled defense. if one of our young cb's can step up, though, i have no doubt that uf will make a serious run at the NC.

TitanHope
08-06-2010, 02:27 PM
i'd be willing to say that if john brantley were uf's starting qb last season, we would have won the national championship.

You guys would've gotten raped with Brantley, and there's no evidence that suggests he's clutch or can lead Florida through an SEC schedule undefeated. Tebow is one of the greatest players in not only SEC history, but college football history. To insinuate that an inexperienced sophomore QB could do what Tebow couldn't do, which was beat a superior Alabama team (Tebow had ya'll undefeated leading up to the SECCG) and then beat a very good Texas team, solely because he's a more traditional pocket passer is absolutely absurd.

There's no way Brantley will leave school and be thought of as a superior QB than Tebow, and even if he's a better prospect, that still doesn't directly translate to wins. He's not going to achieve more, and he's not going to break any of Tebow's records. If Gators fans are thinking that's a possibility, then you guys are just trying to convince yourselves that Brantley is better than he really is or you guys don't realize how spectacular the run was that Tebow led ya'll on.

CLong4Heisman
08-06-2010, 02:54 PM
Navy always goes 9-3 against a decent schedule and yet they get no love. They've proven to be more deserving of a top 25 slot than FSU.

keylime_5
08-06-2010, 03:14 PM
I really think this is one of the weakest times I've ever seen in college football. Last years preseason top 10 teams would slaughter this years.

Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma should expect to have worse teams than last year, Alabama looks the best in the nation, but still not as good as last year. Ohio State is improved, but not much, basically the same team as last year.

I guess it just looks weaker without big name QBs and a slew of returning Heisman winners.

defense should be more or less the same, but hopefully the offense isn't as bad as it was for the first 7 games or so in 2009. The potential is there for Ohio State to be an elite offensive team this year at least. Agreed though, the top 10 has a lot more ?s than last year's top 10.

diabsoule
08-06-2010, 03:15 PM
I don't expect LSU to finish in the top 25 at the end of the year.

Sniper
08-06-2010, 03:34 PM
throw these out. VT, OSU and Bama all go 12-1 we all know who the 2 teams in there will be because of this poll, and not how they play on the field. Cold world we live in...

Who do you have winning against Ohio State and Bama?

jballa838
08-06-2010, 03:57 PM
Who do you have winning against Ohio State and Bama?

Us going 12-1? Yeah I can only pray for that. The games against, GT, UNC & at Miami are no cakewalks. And that is if we can beat a tough Boise team.
I was speaking hypothetically. I just used random teams from there and painted an illustration.

nrk
08-06-2010, 04:25 PM
Same teams, but with Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma all putting in new QBs I'm expecting them to be alot weaker. I seeing Florida and Texas in the top 4 with new QBs suprised me alot. Texas will likely cruise through a weak Big 12 however.

Uh, Landry Jones started more games than Sam Bradford last year.

YAYareaRB
08-06-2010, 04:36 PM
Alabama looks the best in the nation, but still not as good as last year.

Well sir I disagree

Brent
08-06-2010, 04:38 PM
Uh, Landry Jones started more games than Sam Bradford last year.
I don't see how OU isn't the highest rated Big 12 team. Their defense is always stout and their offense is going to be destroying teams this year. Landry is going to have a huge year.

SickwithIt1010
08-06-2010, 04:51 PM
Boise State gettin snubbed....lol.

I think they deserve to be 2 or 3, but I understand it would just hurt the big schools' feelings if they were that high.

wicket
08-06-2010, 04:52 PM
Boise State gettin snubbed....lol.

I think they deserve to be 2 or 3, but I understand it would just hurt the big schools' feelings if they were that high.

I truly feel they should be 3 but theyll be 3 or low after week 1 anyway

sbh15
08-06-2010, 06:12 PM
You guys would've gotten raped with Brantley, and there's no evidence that suggests he's clutch or can lead Florida through an SEC schedule undefeated. Tebow is one of the greatest players in not only SEC history, but college football history. To insinuate that an inexperienced sophomore QB could do what Tebow couldn't do, which was beat a superior Alabama team (Tebow had ya'll undefeated leading up to the SECCG) and then beat a very good Texas team, solely because he's a more traditional pocket passer is absolutely absurd.

There's no way Brantley will leave school and be thought of as a superior QB than Tebow, and even if he's a better prospect, that still doesn't directly translate to wins. He's not going to achieve more, and he's not going to break any of Tebow's records. If Gators fans are thinking that's a possibility, then you guys are just trying to convince yourselves that Brantley is better than he really is or you guys don't realize how spectacular the run was that Tebow led ya'll on.

no, i'm a gator fan. i appreciate everything tim tebow did and i know how much of every bit of success can be attributed to him. but the offense was just not very good last year, say what you want. brantley is a much better downfield passer than tim is/was, and the big play was the one thing holding uf back. that and spikes' nagging hamstring injuries. my claim was pretty ridiculous. but don't say john brantley couldn't have led that team through our regular season schedule undefeated because that schedule was a cakewalk. i think we would have given alabama a much better game with john brantley at the helm though. tebow was just ineffective that game... i guess it didn't help that demps got hurt. but brantley is a much better pure passer than tim and that's what i think we needed against alabama. half of our drives were three and out because passes were either inaccurate or rushed (and i think we all know that a rushed tebow pass is not a good one) or whatever.

i think that the john brantley we see this year, in the starting job for the 2010 gators, probably would have put up gaudy numbers. yeah, he probably wouldn't have won the national championship (just hyperbole really), but i think he'll be THAT good.

Forenci
08-06-2010, 06:16 PM
UConn got 40 points? Sweet.

Sniper
08-06-2010, 06:20 PM
UConn got 40 points scored against them by Michigan and lost? Sweet.

Edited for accuracy

Michigan
08-06-2010, 06:22 PM
Damn. Looking at the list of teams receiving votes shows just how far we've fallen off the radar. Even Central Michigan has a vote, and they just lost their career leader in everything. :(

Smooth Criminal
08-06-2010, 06:42 PM
Uh, Landry Jones started more games than Sam Bradford last year.

Still a new QB. Bradford was clearly the starter last season.

diabsoule
08-06-2010, 06:56 PM
Still a new QB. Bradford was clearly the starter last season.

Yep. Playing 10.5 games and the bowl game last year plus having a whole offseason of leading the team means nothing. ::eyeroll::

sbh15
08-06-2010, 07:40 PM
landry jones wasn't that good and lost his left tackle and best receiver... oklahoma is a top 25 team, they have no business in the top 10, though.

Forenci
08-06-2010, 09:11 PM
Edited for accuracy

It's going to be awesome when Jordan Todman runs for 200 yards against the Wolverines and embarrasses them in their own stadium.

Although I guess you're probably used to that by now. Hah!

RealityCheck
08-06-2010, 09:21 PM
#18, I guess it's okay.

And Boise needs to be higher. Let's say... #2.

Sniper
08-06-2010, 09:29 PM
It's going to be awesome when Jordan Todman runs for 200 yards against the Wolverines

200's a low estimate. Thanks for being kind.

and embarrasses them in their own stadium.

Although I guess you're probably used to that by now. Hah!

After Toledo and the Horror, UConn wouldn't be embarrassing.

Smooth Criminal
08-06-2010, 10:13 PM
Yep. Playing 10.5 games and the bowl game last year plus having a whole offseason of leading the team means nothing. ::eyeroll::

Who said it meant nothing? But coming into a season as the starting QB is alot more pressure than what he did last year.

I still think last year's preseason Oklahoma team would beat this years. Thats all that was said. Not that they're terrible this year or anything like that.

Smooth Criminal
08-06-2010, 10:15 PM
#18, I guess it's okay.

And Boise needs to be higher. Let's say... #2.

I expected Bama to be 1 obviously, Ohio State 2 just cause of name value, and Boise to be 3. I'm expecting them to jump Texas and Florida if they can get a very impressive win early over VT.

Brent
08-06-2010, 10:35 PM
landry jones wasn't that good and lost his left tackle and best receiver... oklahoma is a top 25 team, they have no business in the top 10, though.
What are you talking about? Williams wasnt that great at LT last year, Broyles is still there and Landry Jones was, indeed, good. He looked really bad against Nebraska (who didnt?) and struggled against Tech. Outside of those games, he looked pretty good for a guy who didnt come into the season with an offseason or preparation.

sbh15
08-06-2010, 11:05 PM
What are you talking about? Williams wasnt that great at LT last year, Broyles is still there and Landry Jones was, indeed, good. He looked really bad against Nebraska (who didnt?) and struggled against Tech. Outside of those games, he looked pretty good for a guy who didnt come into the season with an offseason or preparation.

gresham? i guess he didn't have him last year, but i was speaking more about the team as a whole. anyway, i agree they'll be pretty well off, but top ten? c'mon.

LizardState
08-07-2010, 12:29 AM
USC subtracted from the top 10 boosted a lot of teams up. If they had avoided the NCAA sanctions they would be no worse than #6 or 7 & wouldn't have lost all those transfer players. Now that they're ineligible the whole Pac 10 is wide open for the 1st time in a long while, Oregon Quackers still the favorite at this time.

Early tests will be Boise St. vs. Va. Tech & Miami going to Ohio St. on 9-11, 2 of those will drop out of the top 5 by the 3rd wk in September.

Alabama & Ohio St. have the 2 best, most experienced o-lines in the country, ranked nos. 1 & 2. Yeah, those facts are related.

The Buckeyes don't have a USC or Texas to undermine their season this yr, get past a hungry Miami team with their hotshot QB early & they could run the table.

Bama has that brutal SEC schedule & have to go to Tennessee, Arkansas & LSU, but thankfully have Penn St. & Florida at home. The Tide's best asset there is having the best QB in the conference not named Mallett, the best set of RBs in the country & more offensive experience than their opponents. If Mallett can tear up the Tide's freshman corners when the Razorbacks are at home watch out for Arkansas, that W could clear the path to the Atlanta SEC CG matchup with probably Florida with all that Urban Meyer young talent & team speed. On the other hand no defense on their schedule -- both Florida & Penn St. have defenses gutted by graduation -- will be able to hang with the Bama offense, stop both Richardson & Ingram if that's possible, then there's Julio & the passing game with receivers in single coverage, Saban will give DCs fits all season.

Teams that could fall fast: UNC if the NCAA drops the hammer, Michigan if upset early by UConn & Rodriguez in for a long season.

Teams rising fast: Stanford, b/c Harbaugh has been talking up winning the Pac 10 Soon to Be 12 & the Luck to Owusu combination will light up scoreboards, Iowa with Stanzi & an NFL-quality DT who can dominate whole games like Suh did, Arkansas as mentioned, & Suh's alma mater Nebraska who are still stinging from that 1-point squeaker win Texas managed last December & favored to take the Big 12 North.

sbh15
08-07-2010, 07:32 AM
Alabama & Ohio St. have the 2 best, most experienced o-lines in the country, ranked nos. 1 & 2. Yeah, those facts are related.

Bama has that brutal SEC schedule & have to go to Tennessee, Arkansas & LSU, but thankfully have Penn St. & Florida at home. The Tide's best asset there is having the best QB in the conference not named Mallett, the best set of RBs in the country & more offensive experience than their opponents. If Mallett can tear up the Tide's freshman corners when the Razorbacks are at home watch out for Arkansas, that W could clear the path to the Atlanta SEC CG matchup with probably Florida with all that Urban Meyer young talent & team speed.

i disagree (sort of) with the bolded statements... how about florida's line? returned every starter on an offensive line that was already one of the best in the nation. didn't the tide lose their best run blocking guard? anyway, you could probably just say the three best lines go to the top three teams.

obviously there's no real argument i have that brantley is better than mcelroy, but i think that the stats will do the talking at the end of the year. that's more of a prediction, though.

LizardState
08-07-2010, 11:00 AM
i disagree (sort of) with the bolded statements... how about florida's line? returned every starter on an offensive line that was already one of the best in the nation. didn't the tide lose their best run blocking guard? anyway, you could probably just say the three best lines go to the top three teams.

obviously there's no real argument i have that brantley is better than mcelroy, but i think that the stats will do the talking at the end of the year. that's more of a prediction, though.

Yeah you're right, Florida didn't retain everybody on their OL, they lost a Pouncey but they still have another Pouncey brother starting. Alabama lost only their RT from their front 5 & will replace him with freshman D.J. Fluker who was a top 5-ranked recruit, 6-4, 340 at age 18, so I would put those 2 OLs at about equal. Ohio St. has 3 juniors & 2 seniors back on their front 5, all about 300 or >300 lbs, they're bigger & the best OL in the country. Again with their schedule they have the easiest path to the NC game in the top 5 since Va. Tech or Boise St. will knock one of them off

iowatreat54
08-07-2010, 11:02 AM
I'd be willing to say Wisconsin's OL is better and more experienced than Alabama's and OSU's. It was the best in the Big Ten last year easily, and everyone is coming back. Even though I don't think Carimi is that great, their OL still is ridiculous.

Sniper
08-07-2010, 04:20 PM
Alabama & Ohio St. have the 2 best, most experienced o-lines in the country, ranked nos. 1 & 2. Yeah, those facts are related.

Ohio State's offensive line is nowhere near the top two in the country. They're not even the best OL in the conference. While they have a strong interior presence, their tackles left A LOT to be desired last year.

Sniper
08-07-2010, 04:23 PM
OSU's OL

39th nationally in yards per carry
19th nationally in rushing yards per game
56th nationally in sacks allowed
88th nationally in negative plays allowed

We have very, VERY different definitions of best OL.

nrk
08-07-2010, 05:15 PM
Still a new QB. Bradford was clearly the starter last season.

Sam started 3 games last year, and only played one complete game. He was clearly not the starter.

Who said it meant nothing? But coming into a season as the starting QB is alot more pressure than what he did last year.

I still think last year's preseason Oklahoma team would beat this years. Thats all that was said. Not that they're terrible this year or anything like that.

Coming into a season as the starting QB is more pressure then starting when you were #2 on the depth chart, following an injured Heisman winning QB? That makes no sense.

landry jones wasn't that good and lost his left tackle and best receiver... oklahoma is a top 25 team, they have no business in the top 10, though.

He never played with Gresham. Our receiving core was absolutely terrible last year, outside of Ryan Broyles. Despite this, all the games were close other than TT.

Smooth Criminal
08-08-2010, 05:39 PM
If you don't think there is more pressure on Jones this year than last year you're out of your mind. Its his team this year. Last year was supposed to be Bradford's team, and when he inherited it expectations came way down. This year he's the man on a top 10 team, thats alot of pressure.

nrk
08-08-2010, 07:09 PM
If you don't think there is more pressure on Jones this year than last year you're out of your mind. Its his team this year. Last year was supposed to be Bradford's team, and when he inherited it expectations came way down. This year he's the man on a top 10 team, thats alot of pressure.

We are returning 9 starters on offense. Despite what you may think, he did start last season. He's had the majority of last season with this team along with an offseason with them. Sure the expectations will be higher, but he will be calmer and more experienced which I think reduces his pressure.

draftguru151
08-08-2010, 07:23 PM
Definitely no pressure coming in mid-game as the back up replacing the heisman winner.

Smooth Criminal
08-08-2010, 11:16 PM
The expectations and pressure are definately higher this season than last for him. As soon as Bradford went down, so did the expectations for that team.

I think they're overrated. I highly doubt Oklahoma finishes in the top 10. They look pretty similar to the team from last year, some I'm expecting something like 8-4 for the season.

JRTPlaya21
08-21-2010, 12:38 PM
AP Top 25

RK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS

1 Alabama (54) 0-0 1491 1
2 Ohio State (3) 0-0 1400 5
3 Boise State (1) 0-0 1336 4
4 Florida 0-0 1237 3
5 Texas (1) 0-0 1223 2
6 TCU 0-0 1160 6
7 Oklahoma (1) 0-0 1104 NR
8 Nebraska 0-0 1033 14
9 Iowa 0-0 1007 7
10 Virginia Tech 0-0 973 10
11 Oregon 0-0 870 11
12 Wisconsin 0-0 822 16
13 Miami (FL) 0-0 785 19
14 USC 0-0 590 22
15 Pittsburgh 0-0 516 15
16 Georgia Tech 0-0 511 13
17 Arkansas 0-0 496 NR
18 North Carolina 0-0 397 NR
19 Penn State 0-0 382 9
20 Florida State 0-0 379 NR
21 LSU 0-0 300 17
22 Auburn 0-0 296 NR
23 Georgia 0-0 206 NR
24 Oregon State 0-0 198 NR
25 West Virginia 0-0 184 25

Others receiving votes: Cincinnati 108, Stanford 81, Utah 80, South Carolina 71, Houston 66, Connecticut 32, Notre Dame 31, Missouri 27, Brigham Young 19, Arizona 15, Clemson 15, Texas Tech 14, Navy 12, Washington 8, Texas A&M 7, Mississippi 6, Oklahoma State 3, Middle Tennessee 2, Central Michigan 2, Temple 2, UCF 1, Boston College 1, Southern Methodist 1

phlysac
08-21-2010, 02:52 PM
UConn got 40 points? Sweet.

They're a chic pic to win the Big East. November 11 could be HUGE.