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Mr. Goosemahn
08-12-2010, 06:03 PM
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Jonathan Baldwin - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42075
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Bruce Carter - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42108
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TE Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
6'6 - 260 lbs. - Junior

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Great TE, should be a first rounder if he declares, IMO. A pretty weak class overall, I think. Great size, good speed, great hands.

bce
08-12-2010, 07:26 PM
One of the better prospects in the last few years. late rd 1 would be as high as i would go, but, if i had a solid team and needed a potential elite upgrade at TE i would certainly consider taking him.

BeerBaron
08-12-2010, 10:42 PM
Should be the best of a weak class. I think his final stock could end up being even better than Gresham's even.

PACKmanN
08-12-2010, 11:13 PM
I see a lot of Greg Olsen in him

yourfavestoner
08-12-2010, 11:26 PM
I see a lot of Greg Olsen in him

I haven't seen him play, but their situations (very solid guy in a weak crop/middle-to-end of first round material) sound very familiar.

ThePudge
08-13-2010, 12:02 AM
I don't like him anywhere close to the amount I liked Jermaine Gresham as a prospect, but currently I think he fits nicely into the Late 1st mix. He looks very athletic on film and reminds me of a cross between Greg Olsen and Todd Heap (two former late first round picks.) The fact that his freshman & sophomore production was near identical (roughly 30 rec 350 yds) with 5 career Td's would indicate that we'd better not jump the gun though. Rudolph obviously has a lot of ability, but his lack of production, especially in the redzone, is worrisome. I'll be watching him closely this season, I expect he'll make strides and prove most of us right.

AntoinCD
08-13-2010, 05:00 AM
I really like Kyle Rudolph as a prospect. If the Pats hadn't taken Gronkowski and Hernandez I would have been all over him this year. It will be interesting to see how he does this year. The one worry I would have is he is not very productive but played in an offense that had Clausen, Floyd and Tate. You'd have thought with the opportunities he could have done better. Hopefully he has a good year though. I have him just slipping out of the first at the minute.

K Train
08-13-2010, 07:26 AM
heath miller anyone?

P-L
08-13-2010, 09:07 AM
Production is the most glaring concern right now. He has 700 yards and 5 TD in his career so far. That is a little low for one season from a 1st round pick at tight end, much less two seasons. That said, with Golden Tate in the NFL and a first-year starter at quarterback, I'd expect his production to go up this year.

CashmoneyDrew
08-13-2010, 11:10 AM
I like his jump ball ability. I'm hoping luke stocker will give him a run for his money as the first tight end taken.

Babylon
08-13-2010, 01:04 PM
If he runs a reported 4.6 then i think he'll surprise people as to when he comes off the board. Comparisons probably would be Jason Witten, Heath Miller and Todd Heap but may have more deep threat ability than any of those guys. He's almost athletically in the Russ Francis mold.

bam bam
08-13-2010, 01:46 PM
He looks very athletic on film and reminds me of a cross between Greg Olsen and Todd Heap (two former late first round picks.)

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bam bam
08-13-2010, 01:46 PM
Comparisons probably would be Jason Witten, Heath Miller and Todd Heap

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Bengals78
08-13-2010, 02:05 PM
Considering I played against him, he is the best TE prospect everrrrrrrrrrr

wicket
08-13-2010, 03:07 PM
dude is an athletic feak who will see a big increase in production this season for sure. But I have to say, worries about production are legit, the thing that worries me is that he doesnt seem to be all that great in locating the ball in the air, making him less lethal on stuff like fade routes than he should be

wicket
08-13-2010, 03:19 PM
If he runs a reported 4.6 then i think he'll surprise people as to when he comes off the board. Comparisons probably would be Jason Witten, Heath Miller and Todd Heap but may have more deep threat ability than any of those guys. He's almost athletically in the Russ Francis mold.

his reported speed is 4.5 though and I could actually see him running like a 4.57

ThePudge
08-13-2010, 04:26 PM
He's definitely a guy who looks sub 4.6 on the field. Very fast, but from what I've seen he's not overly physical with the ball in his hands (thus removing Heath Miller-Jason Witten comparisons from my mind.) He's very fluid though with a lot of explosiveness for his size. At this point, he's a potential first round pick. Wicket brings an interesting point about him needing to improve locating the ball; this could be perhaps the main reason why his production in the redzone has been so underwhelming for such a big, athletic TE. The theory is: more looks + another year of practice and being critiqued on film = An improved Rudolph in 10'.

Babylon
08-13-2010, 09:19 PM
his reported speed is 4.5 though and I could actually see him running like a 4.57

Was that post highschool time because he's put on about 30 lbs since then.

GoRavens
08-15-2010, 11:47 AM
This deserves all caps.

KYLE RUDOLPH IS THE BEST TE IN THE DRAFT!
BETTER THAN JERMAINE GRESHAM, FO SHO!
BETTER HANDS!
BETTER BLOCKING!
HE'S UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

Babylon
08-15-2010, 12:33 PM
dude is an athletic feak who will see a big increase in production this season for sure. But I have to say, worries about production are legit, the thing that worries me is that he doesnt seem to be all that great in locating the ball in the air, making him less lethal on stuff like fade routes than he should be

I cant believe i'm saying this but i think you're underestimating a Notre Dame player (Rudolph). I thought Clausen looked to his Wrs, Floyd and Tate a lot more and sort of neglected the TE, cant say i blame him but that is how it looked to me.

wicket
08-16-2010, 04:18 AM
I cant believe i'm saying this but i think you're underestimating a Notre Dame player (Rudolph). I thought Clausen looked to his Wrs, Floyd and Tate a lot more and sort of neglected the TE, cant say i blame him but that is how it looked to me.

to a certain extend i agree with this but the ball locating thing is an issue imo

Babylon
08-16-2010, 10:05 AM
to a certain extend i agree with this but the ball locating thing is an issue imo

He didnt have any trouble locating the ball against the UW but then again..........

Big Bird
08-16-2010, 12:55 PM
He is an excellent talent. Well-rounded Tight End. Reminds me a lot of Jason Witten. Big, good speed for a Tight End, crisp route runner, excellent awareness and knows how to find the open zone and sit in it, and a very good blocker. He isn't on the level Witten is as a blocker (the Cowboys pull him and use him as a FB and takes on Nose Tackles and Nose Guards, I've seen it multiple times), but he is still a great blocker for his age.

wordofi
08-16-2010, 01:27 PM
I don't think he's going to be in the 2011 NFL Draft. Players rarely leave Notre Dame early. With that said, he is a first round talent. Excellent size, good blocker, nice potential as a receiver, and good speed for his size. I think he goes in the top 16 in the 2012 NFL draft.

Babylon
08-16-2010, 01:58 PM
I don't think he's going to be in the 2011 NFL Draft. Players rarely leave Notre Dame early. With that said, he is a first round talent. Excellent size, good blocker, nice potential as a receiver, and good speed for his size. I think he goes in the top 16 in the 2012 NFL draft.

Clausen left early and i expect Floyd will this year also. I think the Irish have been lacking in top talent of late so not sure i would say they tend to stay there more than other schools. I would be very surprised if Rudolph isnt in this upcoming draft.

Saints-Tigers
08-16-2010, 02:04 PM
Rudolph reminds me of Gresham more than any of these white dudes being thrown out. It's not a perfect comparison, but he's way more Gresham than Witten.

Babylon
08-16-2010, 02:14 PM
Rudolph reminds me of Gresham more than any of these white dudes being thrown out. It's not a perfect comparison, but he's way more Gresham than Witten.

Gresham isnt much of a blocker from what i've seen so the comparisons to the others makes more sense to me.

P-L
08-16-2010, 03:23 PM
Gresham is actually a pretty good blocker (at least in my opinion) it's just that Oklahoma used him as a slot receiver the majority of the time. On the rare occasion that he was asked to stay back and block, I thought he did pretty well.

A Perfect Score
08-16-2010, 03:32 PM
Gresham is an awful comparison for Rudolph. Gresham was a much more fluid athlete and his ability to separate and extend towards the ball was lightyears ahead of where Rudolph is now. Rudolph does run great routes and Im interested to see where his athleticism ultimately tests out, but he isn't in the same league as Gresham as far as fluidity in the open field is concerned.

I think the Todd Heap comparison is good for Rudolph.

Sniper
08-16-2010, 03:46 PM
Gresham is actually a pretty good blocker (at least in my opinion) it's just that Oklahoma used him as a slot receiver the majority of the time. On the rare occasion that he was asked to stay back and block, I thought he did pretty well.

Why the hell would you ask Jermaine Gresham to block? I'm not discounting what you're saying, but if you have Jermaine Gresham, having him block instead of running routes is borderline ********.

acerockolla
08-26-2010, 03:24 AM
I'm questioning why anyone is worrying about Rudolph's athleticism; he was a basketball star in Ohio, and his film speaks for itself. His production also does not concern me- his production level is about even with John Carlson beforehand, added to the fact that Clausen had Tate+Floyd to throw to all day.

What should be questioned is his blocking and his ability to stay healthy.

SenorGato
08-26-2010, 03:29 AM
Really nice, possibly first round nice TE/H-back prospect.