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Mr. Goosemahn
08-16-2010, 02:43 PM
To see previously discussed prospects, click here.
Jake Locker - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2230943
Cameron Heyward - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41890
Marvin Austin - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41892
Adrian Clayborn - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41919
Anthony Castonzo - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41929
Greg Romeus - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41940
Von Miller - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2238637
Mike Pouncey - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41959
Allen Bailey - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41971
Mark Herzlich - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41993
Prince Amukamara - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42000
Gabe Carimi - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42014
Patrick Peterson - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42030
Terrance Toliver - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42042
Noel Devine - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42053
DeAndre McDaniel - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42063
A. J. Green - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42070
Jonathan Baldwin - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42075
Michael Floyd - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42089
Joseph Barksdale - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42098
Bruce Carter - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42108
Rodney Hudson - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42122
Marcus Cannon - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42132
Jerrell Powe - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42149
Kyle Rudolph - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42196
Ryan Mallett - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42210
Christian Ponder - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42239


http://blog.pennlive.com/joehermitt/2008/09/large_EVAN_ROYSTER.jpg

RB Evan Royster, Penn State
6'1 - 212 lbs. - Senior

Highlights!

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For some reason, everytime I see him the first thing I think about is that his head is too big. Also, he's a good RB, maybe late first, probably second round.

BeerBaron
08-16-2010, 02:52 PM
Good at everything, not great at anything is what I think. I'm thinking like 3rd/4th round personally to be a well rounded backup.

K Train
08-16-2010, 02:54 PM
3rd round at best, better than tony hunt...thats not saying much

BeerBaron
08-16-2010, 02:58 PM
3rd round at best, better than tony hunt...thats not saying much

Totally different style of player too.

And who are they playing in that first picture? I don't recognize the other team...

K Train
08-16-2010, 03:13 PM
clearly its that powerhouse that is the coastal carolina chanticleers lol

P-L
08-16-2010, 03:21 PM
clearly its that powerhouse that is the coastal carolina chanticleers lol
Hey now, Coastal Carolina was Penn State's toughest non-conference opponent in years.

Sniper
08-16-2010, 03:47 PM
Word has it that he showed up to camp weighing 225 pounds and most of the added weight wasn't good. For a guy who's not a burner to start with, that's not a good thing.

TACKLE
08-16-2010, 05:39 PM
Word has it that he showed up to camp weighing 225 pounds and most of the added weight wasn't good. For a guy who's not a burner to start with, that's not a good thing.

I heard somewhere that he was the only PSU player not to pass their conditioning test.

cajuncorey
08-16-2010, 09:14 PM
frank gore anyone?

Shane P. Hallam
08-16-2010, 09:19 PM
no better than a 5th round pick, you heard it here. He is a product of the great O-line, no burst, no real vision or speed. Blah.

Sniper
08-16-2010, 09:41 PM
great O-line

What the hell are you talking about?

wonderbredd24
08-16-2010, 09:46 PM
Who else has been drafted other than A.Q. Shipley in round 7?

Cadogan went undrafted. Who else has there been?

marshallb
08-16-2010, 10:24 PM
Who else has been drafted other than A.Q. Shipley in round 7?

Cadogan went undrafted. Who else has there been?

They do have Wisnewski(sp?) who will likely be a pretty high pick for an interior OL.

Mr.Regular
08-16-2010, 10:47 PM
I see a player who makes excellent cuts and seems to have good downfield vision. Two very good traits to have. Plus his legs seem to always be moving. One of my favourite qualities to look for in a prospect. I hate seeing legs go dead on contact. A very underrated thing to look for in a back.

That being said, in no way do I see a feature back. His speed looks good on Saturdays but he's no burner. He's also not a power type back at all. I've also heard his conditioning and work ethic are not the best.

So he's a solid back with some really good skills to work with, but he's not a guy who's going to carry your backfield with speed or power. He could be a nice change of pace guy in a one cut zone type scheme possibly, but that's if he conditions well.

Like Shane said, 5th round seems appropriate for a guy with those types of expectations, maybe a round or so higher to the right system if his conditioning and pre draft workouts go well.

Hurricanes25
08-16-2010, 10:50 PM
My comparsion for him is a poor mans Clinton Portis.

FUNBUNCHER
08-16-2010, 11:05 PM
He's a local so I'm already a big fan, but as of right now I don't see much more than a backup in the pros, depending on who picks him up.

A really nice college player, but I don't see enough about him that's 'special' to allow him excel at the next level.

Good runner, average to below-average athlete for the position.

BTW, he was such a beast in HS, a glider who never appears to be running that fast. Too bad I'm afraid that might be because he's not that fast.

Dude does have great feet though, almost like he's moving on his toes when he cuts.

yo123
08-16-2010, 11:51 PM
Other than his very good agility he's average in every way possible. I wouldn't touch him before the 5th.

703SKINS202
08-17-2010, 12:48 AM
He is a ridiculously good lacrosse player if he doesn't get drafted.

katnip
08-17-2010, 01:20 PM
I heard somewhere that he was the only PSU player not to pass their conditioning test.

lol, that's pretty bad. How many players are on a college team? 80 something

Sniper
08-17-2010, 04:01 PM
lol, that's pretty bad. How many players are on a college team? 80 something

105 including walk-ons.

jrdrylie
08-17-2010, 04:22 PM
I'll admit that I haven't watched him too much, but based on the short clip, he seems to have pretty good vision and makes some really good cuts. However, he looks like he lacks some speed. And for a slower back, he didn't seem to break a lot of tackles. And if the thing about failing a conditioning test is true, that is a major red flag. Lazy or out of shape in college translates to lazy or out of shape in the NFL 99% of the time. I guess I would compare him to Cedric Benson. Late 2nd or early 3rd prospect.

Hines
08-17-2010, 05:45 PM
He reminds me of Matt Forte. Not the fastest guys, but seem to get it done. He's also a really good receiver out of the backfield.

Big Bird
08-18-2010, 12:01 AM
He reminds me of Matt Forte. Not the fastest guys, but seem to get it done. He's also a really good receiver out of the backfield.
I was just about to say, what's the difference between him and Matt Forte.

They are similar build and have a similar running style. And HWJr underestimates both of their receiving skills; Forte and Royster are excellent Receivers. Royster is so refined in that area, it's sickening. He has natural hands, is a crisp route runner, and has excellent awareness. At worst, Royster is the next Kevin Faulk. But I love Royster's vision. He has produced behind a crappy Offensive Line. I have no idea how anybody could think last year's Line was good; it was utter crap. His balance is sickening as well.

He's a good Running Back and has a nice skill-set to be a consistent 1,000 Yard Rusher in the pro's.

FUNBUNCHER
08-18-2010, 03:00 AM
Does anyone think Royster has better than 4.6 speed??

I believe when Matt Forte came out, he had sub 4.5 speed. Regardless, Royster will have to work his ass off to make some team's final 53. He's far from a given.

underscore
08-18-2010, 07:45 PM
I was just about to say, what's the difference between him and Matt Forte.


Forte proved in college he could shoulder a full workload. Royster (possibly through no fault of his own) hasn't come close to showing that.

Brent
08-18-2010, 07:51 PM
frank gore anyone?
no, frank gore was only drafted in the 3rd because of his knee injuries. not because he sucked.

Big Bird
08-19-2010, 01:18 AM
Forte proved in college he could shoulder a full workload. Royster (possibly through no fault of his own) hasn't come close to showing that.
Forte's Sophomore and Junior seasons-308 Carries
Royster's Sophomore and Junior Seasons-396 Carries

AP's final two seasons, he had 220 and 188 Carries, respectively.

Chris Johnson topped 200 Carries once, in his entire career. Jonathan Stewart was the same.

Sorry not everybody can have Senior Seasons like Matt Forte where the entire Offense is built around one guy and you end up carrying the ball 361 times...

And to the guy who said he can't run faster then a 4.6, are you serious?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZyl6Txh1go
Watch that video. He blows past Stevie Brown (#3 at the end), who ran a 4.51. Stevie ran a 4.395 coming out of HS. Both rivals and scout had Royster clocked at 4.45 coming out. I don't always trust High School times, but come on. He burnt past a legit low 4.5 guy.

The hate is ridiculous...

FUNBUNCHER
08-19-2010, 08:15 AM
No one said Royster can't run a 4.6 or better, I just said from watching his game tape, his speed is suspect to me. Bottom line, the dude has trouble outrunning people. Royster does pick up yards, but he also gets tackled a lot from behind.

If the rumors are true that he will play this season over 220#, then yeah, I'm gonna question his speed.
Outrunning a 4.5 defender is okay, but it doesn't reflect that Royster has the explosion to split a secondary and go for 50+ yards to the endzone.

Nobody's hating on Evan, but as of right now, I don't think he warrants being picked higher than the 3rd round, and that's being generous assuming he has great postseason workouts.

Sniper
08-19-2010, 09:58 AM
He blows past Stevie Brown (#3 at the end), who ran a 4.51. Stevie ran a 4.395 coming out of HS. Both rivals and scout had Royster clocked at 4.45 coming out. I don't always trust High School times, but come on. He burnt past a legit low 4.5 guy.

A) A lot of people ran by Stevie Brown. It doesn't mean that they were fast.
B) Royster's not going to clock at 4.45 or 4.5 if he stays at 225, unable to finish a conditioning test.

Nalej
08-19-2010, 01:55 PM
They do have Wisnewski(sp?) who will likely be a pretty high pick for an interior OL.

Never seen him play (this is my first semester at PSU) but he's a pretty cool guy. I got to hang out with him when we both volunteered for the local special olympics. Not as big as I'd expect from an interior lineman though

Bengals78
08-19-2010, 02:59 PM
Penn State RB - Pass.
As the Who said, I wont get fooled again.

ThePudge
08-19-2010, 05:14 PM
Forte's Sophomore and Junior seasons-308 Carries
Royster's Sophomore and Junior Seasons-396 Carries

AP's final two seasons, he had 220 and 188 Carries, respectively.

Chris Johnson topped 200 Carries once, in his entire career. Jonathan Stewart was the same.

Sorry not everybody can have Senior Seasons like Matt Forte where the entire Offense is built around one guy and you end up carrying the ball 361 times...

And to the guy who said he can't run faster then a 4.6, are you serious?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZyl6Txh1go
Watch that video. He blows past Stevie Brown (#3 at the end), who ran a 4.51. Stevie ran a 4.395 coming out of HS. Both rivals and scout had Royster clocked at 4.45 coming out. I don't always trust High School times, but come on. He burnt past a legit low 4.5 guy.

The hate is ridiculous...

#6, Donovan Warren was a 4.55-4.6 guy and he's the one chasing after Royster in that video without much of an angle. Stevie Brown misses his opportunity at the 42 yard line 5 seconds into the video. Royster is not faster than 4.50-4.55, has average power, and average quickness/change of direction while at the same time not being overly elusive. He's durable, he's pretty tough, he does a lot of things well but nothing great. You're right not to trust High School reported times because they almost never are too accurate in projecting these players' 40 times at the Combine.

He reminds me some of former UConn back Donald Brown. If he has 1,600-1,800 yards this year the First Round appears to be in reach, though I think his skill-set translates to the 3rd-4th Round.

cajuncorey
08-21-2010, 01:32 AM
no, frank gore was only drafted in the 3rd because of his knee injuries. not because he sucked.

LOL fair enough

underscore
08-31-2010, 06:15 PM
Joe Paterno from today:

"Q. What have you seen from Evan (Royster) in practice and talk about what you're looking for out of him?

COACH PATERNO: Maybe that's why I didn't…Evan Royster has got to …he's a little heavy. He's about 220. And I keep telling him that he's not going to have the kind of endurance he needs unless he loses some weight. But he knows what's going on. And he's a good back. He's a good back.

I think he's one step away, maybe a little bit just a little bit more intensity away from being better.

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