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ccB
08-21-2010, 03:15 AM
I'm looking for 4-6 people (myself included) to do an MMA draft.

You will have to draft 2 fighters from each of the following weight classes: 135, 145, 155, 170, 185, 205, and heavyweight, to put together a PPV card. You will be looking to put together the most entertaining card possible.

You must draft 4 fighters who are 25 years old and younger

I may make up more rules before we start

Participants:

1. CCB
2. Fenikz
3. Caddy
4. Rob S
5. Ravens 1991
6. Phylsac

1 (1) - caddy - Anderson Silva - Middleweight (Tentatively)
1 (2) - ccb - Brock Lesnar - Heavyweight
1 (3) - rob - George St. Pierre - Welterweight
1 (4) - fenikz - Fedor Emelianenko - Heavyweight
1 (5) - ravens - Jon Jones - Light Heavyweight - Under 26
1 (6) - phly - Jose Aldo - Featherweight - Under 26
2 (7) - phly - Frankie Edgar - Lightweight
2 (8 ) - ravens - B.J. Penn - Lightweight
2 (9) - fenikz - Mauricio Rua - Light Heavyweight
2 (10) - rob - Junior dos Santos - Heavyweight - Under 26
2 (11) - ccb - Cain Velasquez - Heavyweight
2 (12) - caddy - Lyoto Machida - Light Heavyweight
3 (1) - caddy - Jake Shields - Welterweight
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caddy

Heavyweight
1.
2.

Light Heavyweight
1.Lyoto Machida
2.

Middleweight
1.Anderson Silva
2.

Welterweight
1.Jake Shields
2.

Lightweight
1.
2.

Featherweight
1.
2.

Bantamweight
1.
2.

Flyweight
1.
2.

Under 26
1.
2.
3.
4.
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ccb

Heavyweight
1.Brock Lesnar
2.Cain Velasquez

Light Heavyweight
1.
2.

Middleweight
1. Gegard Mousasi
2.

Welterweight
1.
2.

Lightweight
1.
2.

Featherweight
1.
2.

Bantamweight
1.
2.

Flyweight
1.
2.

Under 26
1. Gegard Mousasi
2.
3.
4.
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rob

Heavyweight
1.Junior dos Santos
2.

Light Heavyweight
1.
2.

Middleweight
1.
2.

Welterweight
1.George St. Pierre
2.

Lightweight
1.
2.

Featherweight
1.
2.

Bantamweight
1.
2.

Flyweight
1.
2.

Under 26
1.Junior dos Santos
2.
3.
4.
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fenikz

Heavyweight
1.Fedor Emelianenko
2.

Light Heavyweight
1.Mauricio Rua
2.

Middleweight
1.
2.

Welterweight
1.
2.

Lightweight
1.
2.

Featherweight
1.
2.

Bantamweight
1.
2.

Flyweight
1.
2.

Under 26
1.
2.
3.
4.
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ravens

Heavyweight
1.
2.

Light Heavyweight
1.Jon Jones
2.

Middleweight
1.
2.

Welterweight
1.
2.

Lightweight
1.B.J. Penn
2.

Featherweight
1.
2.

Bantamweight
1.
2.

Flyweight
1.
2.

Under 26
1.Jon Jones
2.
3.
4.
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phly

Heavyweight
1.
2.

Light Heavyweight
1.
2.

Middleweight
1.
2.

Welterweight
1.
2.

Lightweight
1.Frankie Edgar
2.

Featherweight
1.Jose Aldo
2.

Bantamweight
1.
2.

Flyweight
1.
2.

Under 26
1.Jose Aldo
2.
3.
4.
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Rob S
08-21-2010, 09:02 AM
Roster

HW: Junior Dos Santos vs. Shane Carwin
205: Forrest Griffin vs. Phil Davis
185: Jacare vs. Wanderlei Silva
170: Georges St. Pierre vs. Jon Fitch
155: Gilbert Melendez vs. Kenny Florian
145
135: Eduardo Dantas

Under 26: Junior Dos Santos, Phil Davis, Renan Barao

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 09:09 AM
i am in....

UKfan
08-21-2010, 09:47 AM
I'll stay out as I dont wanna slow it down due to my timezone, but if you want a judge I'd be interested in helping out.

zachsaints52
08-21-2010, 12:33 PM
If I could send in texts Id be in, because my schedule usually means im at work most of the 8am-9pm range.

ccB
08-21-2010, 02:57 PM
Whats the main goal, entertainment or stacking the **** out of a card with talent?

Either way, I am in.

I'll leave all creative control up to the drafter, if you want to aim for having the highest level of competition, do that, if you want to make some cool match ups that have some history behind them, do that, if you want it to be all about stylistic match ups, do that, anything goes.

ccB
08-21-2010, 02:57 PM
I will also have final say if any controversy arises.

Rob S
08-21-2010, 04:41 PM
I'll leave all creative control up to the drafter, if you want to aim for having the highest level of competition, do that, if you want to make some cool match ups that have some history behind them, do that, if you want it to be all about stylistic match ups, do that, anything goes.

What is the goal though? Making the best PPV or the best selling?

phlysac
08-21-2010, 05:19 PM
I'd love to join in the fun!

ccB
08-21-2010, 05:45 PM
What is the goal though? Making the best PPV or the best selling?

I'll probably do a poll asking, "which PPV would you buy?" and let people vote.

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 06:04 PM
IDK if that is the best way, because if you do that they will just scan the teams and vote for who ever has Brock or GSP. I mean how many people on this forum do u think could be educated to make a proper selection.

fenikz
08-21-2010, 06:07 PM
HW: Fedor
LHW: Shogun

Rob S
08-21-2010, 06:17 PM
I'll probably do a poll asking, "which PPV would you buy?" and let people vote.

Royce Gracie vs Matt Hughes vs Brock Lesnar triple threat ftw!

ccB
08-21-2010, 06:19 PM
how about each person votes for a team other then there own and whoever wins, wins.

fenikz
08-21-2010, 06:31 PM
How about voting for top 3 so there aren't any ties

1st - 3 pts
2nd - 2 pts
3rd - 1 pt

phlysac
08-21-2010, 06:33 PM
how about each person votes for a team other then there own and whoever wins, wins.
How about voting for top 3 so there aren't any ties

1st - 3 pts
2nd - 2 pts
3rd - 1 pt

That's not a bad idea. Perhaps couple it with a poll.

It's difficult to pull off the PPV rule because not everyone enjoys a card for the same reasons. Many love tough matchups while others love fights between big names or fights between top contenders.

Hope I'm selected.

ccB
08-21-2010, 06:35 PM
How about voting for top 3 so there aren't any ties

1st - 3 pts
2nd - 2 pts
3rd - 1 pt

Yeah we'll do this...phillysac you are in as long as you're around to make your picks.

phlysac
08-21-2010, 06:41 PM
Yeah we'll do this...phillysac you are in as long as you're around to make your picks.

when is it starting? I can confirm based upon that.

Rob S
08-21-2010, 07:18 PM
We should get phone numbers.....I can text people.

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 07:19 PM
lets make the voting annonymous through PM.

ccB
08-21-2010, 07:26 PM
edit forgot caddy

ccB
08-21-2010, 07:29 PM
There were 6 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

1. caddy
2. ccb
3. rob
4. fenikz
5. ravens
6. philly

Timestamp: 2010-08-22 00:28:59 UTC

Caddys up

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 07:32 PM
hour time limit or what?

ccB
08-21-2010, 07:35 PM
I'll go no limit for tonight since I kind of started it abruptly.

Caddy
08-21-2010, 07:47 PM
Picks in this thread?

ccB
08-21-2010, 07:49 PM
yeah go ahead

Caddy
08-21-2010, 07:53 PM
Love him or hate him, he can put on a show.

Anderson Silva - Middleweight (Could possibly change)

http://www.graciemag.com/pt/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/andersonsilva_forrest-griffin.jpg

Fight Card

Bantamweight
TBA vs TBA

Featherweight
Josh Grispi vs TBA

Lightweight
Shinya Aoki vs George Sotiropolous

Welterweight
Jake Shields vs TBA

Middleweight
Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort

Light Heavyweight
Lyoto Machida vs TBA

Heavyweight
TBA vs TBA

phlysac
08-21-2010, 07:53 PM
Snake-style draft or no?

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 07:58 PM
yea like since I am the 5th pick, I got the 2nd pick round 2.

ccB
08-21-2010, 08:03 PM
I select:

http://www.clbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Brock-Lesnar-2010.jpg

HW Brock Lesnar

Rob S
08-21-2010, 08:28 PM
Sweet, lets go!

Rob S
08-21-2010, 08:32 PM
3 sucks, but I gotta go with GSP here.

http://www.mmabay.co.uk/img/georges-st-pierre1.jpg

fenikz
08-21-2010, 08:40 PM
Fedor
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/305802/fedor_emelianenko.jpg

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 08:47 PM
I take John Jones.


Honestly IDK anyone who doesnt love seeing Jones fight.




and dont neg rep rape me CCBG.

http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/jon-jones-5.jpg

fenikz
08-21-2010, 08:48 PM
not a top 10 talent but honestly not many people I would rather watch fight

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 08:50 PM
yeah I mean it is a risky pick, because we all agree he is exciting as anyone in MMA.

phlysac
08-21-2010, 08:53 PM
Stole it from me... he was gonna be by 2nd pick... and he's under 25. Both selections coming momentarilty

phlysac
08-21-2010, 09:09 PM
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7794/josealdo.jpg
Jose "Junior" Aldo - Featherweight - Under 26

and

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4091/frankieedgar.jpg
Frankie "The Answer" Edgar - Lightweight

Caddy
08-21-2010, 09:19 PM
I think the Jones pick is acceptable. Easily one of the best fighters to watch at the moment.

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 09:19 PM
damn it I was targeting Aldo. I guess it evens out.


I take BJ Penn

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GNRM-_gWgSk/SD6SXi37w4I/AAAAAAAACHo/pMPbK7yrBzI/S240/BJ+Penn+19.JPG

fenikz
08-21-2010, 09:20 PM
Shogun
http://www.octagonbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Mauricio-Rua1.jpg

Caddy
08-21-2010, 09:21 PM
Shogun looks a lot like Fedor in that picture!

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 09:21 PM
steal, I was torn between Penn or Shogun.

fenikz
08-21-2010, 09:24 PM
btw I demand that Pride rules be allowed for my PPV


steal, I was torn between Penn or Shogun.

ya I was just gonna pick the one left over, out of Aldo, Shogun and Penn

phlysac
08-21-2010, 09:28 PM
Still bummed. I was stoked, thinking I'd walk with Aldo and Jones with my 1st two picks. Oh well.

Was hoping to get the 3rd and 4th finished before I bailed. TXT me to make my selections if it's before 1am EST.

If not I'll be on nearly all day tomorrow.

Ravens1991
08-21-2010, 10:42 PM
via text message Rob takes Junior Dos Santos.

Rob S
08-21-2010, 11:46 PM
JDS is 25 btw.

fenikz
08-22-2010, 12:19 AM
623-734-3206 text me if i ain't around

ccB
08-22-2010, 12:35 AM
http://www.cainvelasquez-fans.com/images/cain_velasquez_009.jpg
HW Cain Velasquez

Caddy
08-22-2010, 01:58 AM
LHW Lyoto Machida

http://mmacity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/lyoto_machida.jpg

and

WW Jake Shields

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_LCzDRss9B5c/SSW1ly6AKMI/AAAAAAAAAEc/IQ7JKt8A0Kc/s640/EliteXC%20-%20Heat%20-%209.%20Jake%20Shields%20vs.%20Paul%20Daley.jpg

phlysac
08-22-2010, 12:12 PM
1 (1) - caddy - Anderson Silva - Middleweight
1 (2) - ccb - Brock Lesnar - Heavyweight
1 (3) - rob - George St. Pierre - Welterweight
1 (4) - fenikz - Fedor Emelianenko - Heavyweight
1 (5) - ravens - Jon Jones - Light Heavyweight - Under 26
1 (6) - phly - Jose Aldo - Featherweight - Under 26
2 (7) - phly - Frankie Edgar - Lightweight
2 (8 ) - ravens - B.J. Penn - Lightweight
2 (9) - fenikz - Mauricio Rua - Light Heavyweight
2 (10) - rob - Junior dos Santos - Heavyweight - Under 26
2 (11) - ccb - Cain Velasquez - Heavyweight
2 (12) - caddy - Lyoto Machida - Light Heavyweight
3 (13) - caddy - Jake Shields - Welterweight
3 (14) - ccb - Urijah Faber- Bantamweight
3 (15) - rob - Shane Carwin - Heavyweight
3 (16) - fenikz - Alistair Overeem - Heavyweight
3 (17) - ravens - Chael Sonnen - Middleweight
3 (18 ) - phly - Rashad Evans - Light Heavyweight
4 (19) - phly - Dominick Cruz - Bantamweight - Under 26
4 (20) - ravens - Quentin Jackson - Light Heavyweight
4 (21) - fenikz - Gegard Mousasi - Light Heavyweight - Under 26
4 (22) - rob - Jon Fitch - Welterweight
4 (23) - ccb - Eddie Alvarez - Lightweight - Under 26
4 (24) - caddy - Shinya Aoki - Lightweight
5 (25) - caddy - Vitor Belfort - Middleweight
5 (26) - ccb - Antonio Rogerio Nogueira - Light Heavyweight
5 (27) - rob - Gilbert Melendez - Lightweight
5 (28 ) - fenikz - Dan Henderson - Middleweight
5 (29) - ravens - Nick Diaz - Welterweight
5 (30) - phly - Fabricio Werdum - Heavyweight
6 (31) - phly - Demian Maia - Middleweight
6 (32) - ravens - Frank Mir - Heavyweight
6 (33) - fenikz - Nate Marquardt - Middleweight
6 (34) - rob - Kenny Florian - Lightweight
6 (35) - ccb - Chan Sung Jung - Featherweight - Under 26
6 (36) - caddy - George Sotiropoulos - Lightweight
7 (37) - caddy - Josh Grispi - Featherweight - Under 26
7 (38 ) - ccb - Miguel Angel Torres - Bantamweight
7 (39) - rob - Forrest Griffin - Light Heavyweight
7 (40) - fenikz - Anthony Johnson - Welterweight
7 (41) - ravens - Joe Soto - Featherweight - Under 26
7 (42) - phly - Gray Maynard - Lightweight
8 (43) - phly - Ryan Bader - Light Heavyweight
8 (44) - ravens - Mitsuhiro Ishida LW- Welterweight
8 (45) - fenikz - Paul Daley - Welterweight
8 (46) - rob - Ronaldo Souza dos Santos - Middleweight
8 (47) - ccb - Randy Couture - Light Heavyweight
8 (48 ) - caddy - Rich Franklin - Light Heavyweight
9 (49) - caddy - Brian Bowles - Bantamweight
9 (50) - ccb - Hector Lombard - Middleweight
9 (51) - rob - Wanderlei Silva - Middleweight
9 (52) - fenikz - Benson Henderson - Lightweight
9 (53) - ravens - Roy Nelson - Heavyweight
9 (54) - phly - John Hathaway - Welterweight - Under 26
10 (55) - phly - Renan do Nascimento Moto Pegado - Bantamweight - Under 26
10 (56) - ravens - Rani Yahya - Bantamweight - Under 26
10 (57) - fenikz - Anthony Pettis - Lightweight - Under 26
10 (58 ) - rob - Phil Davis - Light Heavyweight - Under 26
10 (59) - ccb - Rory MacDonald - Welterweight - Under 26
10 (60) - caddy - Stefan Struve - Heavyweight - Under 26
11 (61) - caddy - Chad Mendes - Featherweight - Under 26
11 (62) - ccb - Thiago Alves - Welterweight
11 (63) - rob - Eduardo Dantas - Bantamweight - Under 26
11 (64) - fenikz - Manny Gamburyan - Featherweight
11 (65) - ravens - Micah Miller - Featherweight - Under 26
11 (66) - phly - Josh Koscheck - Welterweight
12 (67)- phly - Bibiano Fernandes - Featherweight
12 (68 ) - ravens - Tatsuya Kawajiri - Lightweight
12 (69) - fenikz - Marlon Sandro - Featherweight
12 (70) - rob - Michael McDonald -Bantamweight - Under 26
12 (71) - ccb - Nate Diaz - Welterweight - Under 26
12 (72) - caddy - Matt Hughes - Welterweight
13 (73) - caddy - Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera - Heavyweight
13 (74) - ccb - Evan Dunham - Lightweight
13 (75) - rob - Diego Nunes - Featherweight
13 (76) - fenikz - Mike Easton - Bantamweight - Under 26
13 (77) - ravens - Michael Bisping - Middleweight
13 (78 ) - phly - Chris Leben - Middleweight
14 (79) - phly - Aleksander Emelianenko - Heavyweight
14 (80) - ravens - Joseph Benavidez - Bantamweight
14 (81) - fenikz - Abel Cullum - Bantamweight - Under 26
14 (82) - rob - Raphael Assuncao - Featherweight
14 (83) - ccb - Leonard Garcia - Featherweight
14 (84) - caddy - Chase Beebe - bantamweight - Under 26

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caddy

Heavyweight
1.Stefan Struve
2.Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera

Light Heavyweight
1.Lyoto Machida
2.Rich Franklin

Middleweight
1.Anderson Silva
2.Vitor Belfort

Welterweight
1.Jake Shields
2.Matt Hughes

Lightweight
1.Shinya Aoki
2.George Sotiropoulos

Featherweight
1.Josh Grispi
2.Chad Mendes

Bantamweight
1.Brian Bowles
2.Chase Beebe

Under 26
1.Josh Grispi
2.Stefan Struve
3.Chad Mendes
4.Chase Beebe
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ccb

Heavyweight
1.Brock Lesnar
2.Cain Velasquez

Light Heavyweight
1.Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
2.Randy Couture

Middleweight
1.Hector Lombard
2.Thiago Alves

Welterweight
1.Rory MacDonald
2.Nate Diaz

Lightweight
1.Eddie Alvarez
2.Evan Dunham

Featherweight
1.Chan Sung Jung
2.Leonard Garcia

Bantamweight
1.Urijah Faber
2.Miguel Angel Torres

Under 26
1. Eddie Alvarez
2. Chan Sung Jung
3.Rory MacDonald
4.Nate Diaz
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rob

Heavyweight
1.Junior dos Santos
2.Shane Carwin

Light Heavyweight
1.Forrest Griffin
2.Phil Davis

Middleweight
1.Ronaldo Souza dos Santos
2.Wanderlei Silva

Welterweight
1.George St. Pierre
2.Jon Fitch

Lightweight
1.Gilbert Melendez
2.Kenny Florian

Featherweight
1.Diego Nunes
2.Raphael Assuncao

Bantamweight
1.Eduardo Dantas
2.Michael McDonald

Under 26
1.Junior dos Santos
2.Phil Davis
3.Eduardo Dantas
4.Michael McDonald
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fenikz

Heavyweight
1.Fedor Emelianenko
2.Alistair Overeem

Light Heavyweight
1.Mauricio Rua
2.Gegard Mousasi

Middleweight
1.Dan Henderson
2.Nate Marquardt

Welterweight
1.Anthony Johnson
2.Paul Daley

Lightweight
1.Benson Henderson
2.Anthony Pettis

Featherweight
1.Manny Gamburyan
2.Marlon Sandro

Bantamweight
1.Mike Easton
2.Abel Cullum

Under 26
1.Gegard Mousasi
2.Anthony Pettis
3.Mike Easton
4.Abel Cullum
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ravens

Heavyweight
1.Frank Mir
2.Roy Nelson

Light Heavyweight
1.Jon Jones
2.Quentin Jackson

Middleweight
1.Chael Sonnen
2.Michael Bisping

Welterweight
1.Nick Diaz
2.Mitsuhiro Ishida

Lightweight
1.B.J. Penn
2.Tatsuya Kawajiri

Featherweight
1.Joe Soto
2.Micah Miller

Bantamweight
1.Rani Yahya
2.Joseph Benavidez

Under 26
1.Jon Jones
2.Joe Soto
3.Rani Yahya
4.Micah Miller
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phly

Heavyweight
1.Fabricio Werdum
2.Aleksander Emelianenko

Light Heavyweight
1.Rashad Evans
2.Ryan Bader

Middleweight
1.Demian Maia
2.Chris Leben

Welterweight
1.Josh Koscheck
2.John Hathaway

Lightweight
1.Frankie Edgar
2.Gray Maynard

Featherweight
1.Jose Aldo
2.Bibiano Fernandes

Bantamweight
1.Dominick Cruz
2.Renan Barao

Under 26
1.Jose Aldo
2.Dominick Cruz
3.John Hathaway
4.Renan Barao
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phlysac
08-22-2010, 03:33 PM
Hung out all afternoon in hopes of making my next two picks. Gotta bounce before the 49ers game.

Please text me if my turn comes around, I will be happy to make any selection necessary.

814-688-9206

ccB
08-22-2010, 03:34 PM
I select:

http://www.scritchandscratch.com/img/scratch/09/090818_0102.jpg

Gegard Mousasi, (25 years old) he will be fighting MW for me.

ccB
08-22-2010, 03:35 PM
Hung out all afternoon in hopes of making my next two picks. Gotta bounce before the 49ers game.

Please text me if my turn comes around, I will be happy to make any selection necessary.

814-688-9206


Sorry about the hold up man I was hibernating, clock should start tomorrow.

phlysac
08-22-2010, 03:40 PM
he will be fighting MW for me.

What are your rules for weightclasses? Any fight in that class in their career or?

Mousasi said in 2008 he'd never fight MW again. I'm fine with it but it'd be cool if there was a definite "rule" we are using for weight classes.

Thanks in advance

fenikz
08-22-2010, 03:43 PM
I shall assume that Mousasi will be beyond exhaustion and fight terribly at MW

ccB
08-22-2010, 03:56 PM
What are your rules for weightclasses? Any fight in that class in their career or?

Mousasi said in 2008 he'd never fight MW again. I'm fine with it but it'd be cool if there was a definite "rule" we are using for weight classes.

Thanks in advance

I was just going to go by fighters fighting in weight classes that it is possible for them to make. Mousasi can and has made 185 it's just taxing for him. So if you want to go by current weight classes that's fine but then guys like Anderson must fight at 185, since he's recently said he has no intention of going back to 205, and a guy like Jose Aldo who can and has fought from 135-155 would be forced to kept at 145, it also created a weird dilemma with a guy like Thiago Alves. I was just trying to give us the most freedom to make interesting match ups, but if you guys have issue with Gegard at 185 I will be repicking someone different, because I don't want him at 205.

fenikz
08-22-2010, 04:00 PM
Ya I say just make em fight at what they are fighting at so there aren't any issues

Rob S
08-22-2010, 05:04 PM
CCB may have to repick then, but since he has 2 HW I can make my selection.

I select Shane Carwin! My 1st fight is set:

http://images.mma-core.com/images/fighters/full/Shane_Carwin_1000783.jpg

VS.
http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/junior-dos-santos-2.jpg

fenikz
08-22-2010, 05:14 PM
how do you know he wasn't going to pick his 3rd HW?

ccB
08-22-2010, 05:16 PM
just got back from the gym, gonna shower then I'll repick

Rob S
08-22-2010, 05:22 PM
how do you know he wasn't going to pick his 3rd HW?

You can only take 2 from each weight class, I think anyway.

fenikz
08-22-2010, 05:25 PM
ah, read it wrong, I was thinking 2 fights per weight class

ccB
08-22-2010, 05:50 PM
I change my Mousasi pick to:

http://counterkicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/K-Swiss-Kenny-Powers-Jump-Rope1.jpg

135: Uriah Faber

fenikz
08-22-2010, 05:53 PM
Alistair Overeem, HW
http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/fighting-stances/2010/05/16/alistairovereemx-large.jpg

Rob S
08-22-2010, 07:26 PM
Chael Sonnen for ravens

Rob S
08-22-2010, 07:39 PM
phlysac takes Rashad Evans and Dominic Cruz. Cruz is under 26.

Rob S
08-22-2010, 07:45 PM
Ravens takes rampage

fenikz
08-22-2010, 07:52 PM
Gegard Mousasi, LHW, 25 & Under
http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/strikeforce-fedor-rogers-event/gegard-mousasi-rameau-thierry-sokoudjou-3.jpg

Fedor vs Overeem
Shogun vs Mousasi

Rob S
08-22-2010, 08:04 PM
Jon Fitch. Could be boring, but it has to be done and honestly, I do want to see it.

http://pyleoflist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/jon-fitch-5.jpg

VS

http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_image/image/393/609/full/georges-st-pierre-2.jpg

Ravens1991
08-22-2010, 08:29 PM
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/fighter/20091207012506_jonjones.JPG

VS.

http://www.fighters.com/images/fighters/profile/Quinton_Rampage_Jackson200802121303.jpg


Every tapout *** would love to see this fight. Plus us MMA hardcore fans would love to see this as well. Jones finally gets tested against a fight w/ nice TDD, a elite chin and elite punching power. A fight that everyone would love to see.

ccB
08-22-2010, 08:36 PM
http://promma.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/eddie-alvarez.jpg
155: Eddie Alvarez (under 26)

Caddy
08-22-2010, 09:39 PM
Shinya Aoki LW

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/31dd480825.jpg

and

Vitor Belfort MW

http://en.susumug.com/ufc/030606/susumu12.jpg

ccB
08-22-2010, 09:50 PM
http://www.mmaconvert.com/wp-content/uploads/post-images/shogun_lil_nog.jpg

205: Antonio Rogerio Nogueira

Rob S
08-22-2010, 10:38 PM
Gilbert Melendez

http://solomma.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/gilbert-melendez1111.jpg

ccB
08-22-2010, 10:40 PM
I had (false) hope that he'd fall back to me :( Would of taken him over Alvarez if Alvarez wasn't under 26.

Caddy
08-22-2010, 10:45 PM
I'm liking the little run on lightweights. Although I've always favoured submission specialists over strikers.

fenikz
08-22-2010, 11:15 PM
Dan Henderson
http://chicagosmma.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/henderson-bisping-gif.gif

Ravens1991
08-22-2010, 11:20 PM
I take Nick Diaz.

Dont forget, Penn could bump up to 170. I am not making it official. But imagine Diaz and Penn squaring up.

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/80/_images/fighter/20091027011521_nickdiaz.JPG



Jon Jones
BJ Penn
Chael Sonnen
Rampage
Nick Diaz
Frank Mir

Ravens1991
08-22-2010, 11:32 PM
phlysac selects


Werdum
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/358764/fabricio_werdum_.jpg



Maia
http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/demian-maia-5.jpg

Ravens1991
08-23-2010, 12:10 AM
I take Frank Mir HW.

fenikz
08-23-2010, 12:17 AM
Nate Marquardt MW
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4339/ar1fj0.jpg

Fedor v Overeem
Shogun v Mousasi
Hendo v Marquardt

Rob S
08-23-2010, 11:17 AM
Kenny Florian- I just love watching this man fight and him vs Melendez would be quite interesting.

http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/kenny-florian1.jpg

VS

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Gilbert_Melendez.jpg/200px-Gilbert_Melendez.jpg

CARD:

GSP vs Jon Fitch
Junior Dos Santos vs Shane Carwin
Gilbert Melendez vs Kenny Florian

phlysac
08-23-2010, 12:04 PM
155: Eddie Alvarez (under 26)

Alvarez turned 26 in January

ccB
08-23-2010, 05:18 PM
Alvarez turned 26 in January
according to:

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Eddie-Alvarez-9265

He doesn't turn 26 until November.

fenikz
08-23-2010, 05:21 PM
ya I'm sure wiki just confused the 1 & 11, cus every other person is set up Year, Month, Date

ccB
08-23-2010, 05:25 PM
I take:

http://www.themmanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/garcia-vs-jung_from-WEC.jpg

145: THE KOREAN ZOMBIE Chang Sung Jung! (under 26)

Caddy
08-23-2010, 06:19 PM
LW George Sotiropolous

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/07/04/1225887/762343-george-sotiropoulos.jpg

and

FW Josh Grispi (Under 26)

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/5295-Josh-Grispi-1.jpg

Fight Card

Bantamweight
TBA vs TBA

Featherweight
Josh Grispi vs TBA

Lightweight
Shinya Aoki vs George Sotiropolous

Welterweight
Jake Shields vs TBA

Middleweight
Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort

Light Heavyweight
Lyoto Machida vs TBA

Heavyweight
TBA vs TBA

phlysac
08-23-2010, 07:52 PM
according to:

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Eddie-Alvarez-9265

He doesn't turn 26 until November.

Works for me. I'm now seeing both dates listed on multiple pages. Sherdog seems most legit.

Apologies.

ccB
08-23-2010, 10:12 PM
I'll take:

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/files/2009/11/miguel-torres.jpg

135: Miguel Angel Torres

Setting up this fight:

http://www.mmacrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/139.jpg

Rob S
08-24-2010, 02:47 PM
Forrest Griffin for me

fenikz
08-24-2010, 03:35 PM
Anthony "Rumble" Johnson
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20091026125707_IMG_8617.JPG

ccB
08-24-2010, 03:39 PM
Anthony Johnson

You know he's fighting Middleweight now right?

fenikz
08-24-2010, 07:12 PM
Because of the knee injury and his struggle to cut weight, Johnson is now considering a move to the middleweight division of the UFC.[13] Johnson indicated on the June 4, 2010, episode of Inside MMA that he must typically lose 40 pounds to make 170. He begins dieting as soon as he is scheduled to fight and must cut the remainder before the weigh in. Despite this, Johnson said that although he may take a fight at 185, he does not plan to remain there and intends to stay at 170.
tennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Ravens1991
08-24-2010, 08:28 PM
Josh the fluke Grispi

Rob S
08-24-2010, 08:30 PM
Josh the fluke Grispi

taken by caddy

Ravens1991
08-24-2010, 08:33 PM
Joe Soto,.....

phlysac
08-24-2010, 08:41 PM
Joe Soto,.....

Damm you Ravens hahaha

phlysac
08-24-2010, 08:55 PM
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/5416/graymaynard.jpg
Gray "The Bully" Maynard - Lightweight

and

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4724/bader.jpg
Ryan "Darth" Bader - Light Heavyweight


Fight Card

Bantamweight
Dominick Cruz (16-1) vs TBA

Featherweight
Jose Aldo (17-1) vs TBA

Lightweight
Frankie Edgar (13-1) vs Gray Maynard (10-0)

Welterweight
TBA vs TBA

Middleweight
Demian Maia (13-2) vs TBA

Light Heavyweight
Rashad Evans (15-1-1) vs Ryan Bader ( 11-0)

Heavyweight
Fabricio Werdum (14-4-1) vs TBA

Ravens1991
08-24-2010, 08:59 PM
CCBG told me no flyweight

phlysac
08-24-2010, 09:08 PM
Well I was never told. I'd be free to repick if I can get confirmation

ccB
08-24-2010, 09:09 PM
we aren't doing flyweight, 135- heavyweight.

Ravens1991
08-24-2010, 09:09 PM
ya get confirmation. ill wait...

phlysac
08-24-2010, 09:10 PM
Setting up this fight:

http://www.mmacrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/139.jpg

Question...

You have Urijah Faber, Chan Sung Jung and Miguel Torres. Sung Jung has never fought at anything other than Featherweight. Who goes where?

Rob S
08-24-2010, 09:19 PM
Zombie is 145, Faber vs Torres is at 135

ccB
08-24-2010, 09:22 PM
Question...

You have Urijah Faber, Chan Sung Jung and Miguel Torres. Sung Jung has never fought at anything other than Featherweight. Who goes where?

Urijah and Torres are bantamweights.

phlysac
08-24-2010, 09:22 PM
repicked... Bader

phlysac
08-24-2010, 09:26 PM
Urijah and Torres are bantamweights.

Sorry about the confusion over Faber. I see he has said he'll fight at Bantamweight again.

Ravens1991
08-24-2010, 09:31 PM
Diego Sanchez LW.


HW-Frank Mir VS. Roy Nelson
LHW-Rampage VS. Jones(26)
MW-Chael Sonnen VS. Michael Bisping
WW-Nick Diaz VS. BJ Penn
LW-Kawajiri VS. Mitsuhiro Ishida
FW-Joe Soto(26) VS. Micha Miller(26)
BW-Rani Yahya(26) VS.

fenikz
08-24-2010, 09:36 PM
Paul Daley, WW
http://www.yorkblog.com/mma/daley.jpg

Fedor v Overeem
Shogun v Mousasi
Henderson v Marquardt
Rumble v Daley

Rob S
08-24-2010, 09:43 PM
Jacare<3 - 185

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/49423/20090512122241_ronaldo_jacare.jpg

Caddy
08-24-2010, 09:44 PM
Rumble vs Daley = Win.

ccB
08-24-2010, 10:07 PM
http://www.fallencelebrities.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/randy-couture-career.jpg

205: Randy Couture

Chucky
08-24-2010, 10:09 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:FKda77bufdmEfM:http://www.faketeams.com/images/admin/UFC.gif&t=1

205: Randy Couture

fapfapfapfapfapfap


HOW DID HE FALL THIS FAR.


HE'S RANDY ************* COUTURE.


I don't care how old he is

Caddy
08-24-2010, 10:54 PM
LHW Rich Franklin
BW Brian Bowles

http://nbcsportsmedia.msnbc.com/j/NBCSports/Sections/UFC/PhotoArchive/WEC/WEC35/BowlesGuillotine.aim640.jpg

Fight Card

Bantamweight
Brian Bowles vs TBA

Featherweight
Josh Grispi vs TBA

Lightweight
Shinya Aoki vs George Sotiropolous

Welterweight
Jake Shields vs TBA

Middleweight
Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort

Light Heavyweight
Lyoto Machida vs Rich Franklin

Heavyweight
TBA vs TBA

ccB
08-24-2010, 11:00 PM
I take:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/221304/Hector_Lombard_v_Jared_Hess__88_.JPG

185: Hector Lombard

CoHip6dfX64

ccB
08-24-2010, 11:07 PM
Caddy, I don't know how I feel about you having Machida v Silva, that is a fight that would never ever happen, both fighters have went on record saying they would never fight. What do the rest of you guys think about this? plus I thought we were taking fighters only at their current fighting weight, Anderson has recently stated he has no interest at fighting at 205 no more.

I'll leave this in the hands of you guys to figure out, just want to clear this up before it gets too far away from his pick.

Chucky
08-24-2010, 11:10 PM
Caddy, I don't know how I feel about you having Machida v Silva, that is a fight that would never ever happen, both fighters have went on record saying they would never fight. What do the rest of you guys think about this?

I'm not in this draft...but as an outsider I think you gotta let it happen. This is a fantasy draft. I mean if we are going to take realism into consideration then you have to look at the fact that Fedor wouldn't fight Overeem.

Caddy
08-24-2010, 11:12 PM
Caddy, I don't know how I feel about you having Machida v Silva, that is a fight that would never ever happen, both fighters have went on record saying they would never fight. What do the rest of you guys think about this? plus I thought we were taking fighters only at their current fighting weight, Anderson has recently stated he has no interest at fighting at 205 no more.

I'll leave this in the hands of you guys to figure out, just want to clear this up before it gets too far away from his pick.

I thought the point of this was to put on the most entertaining card possible and there isn't any mention of something like this being prohibited.

ccB
08-24-2010, 11:13 PM
I thought the point of this was to put on the most entertaining card possible and there isn't any mention of something like this being prohibited.

Well I mean if you want to do that fight it wouldn't be entertaining, it would be a glorified sparring match. I'm more perturbed with the weight class thing because my Mousasi pick got overturned for basically the same thing.

fenikz
08-24-2010, 11:15 PM
Ya I would just force Silva to be a MW, he isn't gonna be fighting at LHW except maybe vs Shogun for the title, especially wouldn't move up to fight Machida

Caddy
08-24-2010, 11:17 PM
Well I mean if you want to do that fight it wouldn't be entertaining, it would be a glorified sparring match. I'm more perturbed with the weight class thing because my Mousasi pick got overturned for basically the same thing.

I'm definitely happy with it. Just let me know what the ruling is sooner rather than later.

ccB
08-24-2010, 11:19 PM
I'm definitely happy with it. Just let me know what the ruling is sooner rather than later.

We'll just put a pause on this to get a couple more opinions from those in the draft, so that you are not at a disadvantage with who you can select.

Caddy
08-24-2010, 11:43 PM
No worries. I'm happy to go with what the people want.

djp
08-25-2010, 01:51 AM
As an outsider, I say you let him keep him, but I agree, the fight would be pretty boring in real life, which would affect my vote.

Caddy
08-25-2010, 02:05 AM
I'll just change it. Save all the controversy and let everyone get on with the draft.

to replace Wanderlei Silva, I select LHW Rich Franklin.

http://www.usaplayers.com/images/news/franklin1.jpg

This reverts my MW and LHW matchups back to:

Silva vs Belfort
Franklin vs Machida

Rob S
08-25-2010, 09:07 PM
I take Wanderlei Silva. Sets up a Brazilian clash vs Jacare.

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/wanderlei-silva.jpg

vs

http://www.vas.tv/images/jacare_press_pose.jpg


CARD:

GSP vs Jon Fitch
Junior Dos Santos vs Shane Carwin
Gilbert Melendez vs Kenny Florian
Jacare vs Wanderlei Silva

Caddy
08-25-2010, 10:17 PM
If Souza will bang with Wanderlei I like it.

ccB
08-25-2010, 10:34 PM
really like the way this is going guys, Caddy I don't know about everyone else but I'm more intrigued by the Belfort v Silva match up than Silva v Machida.

Caddy
08-25-2010, 11:10 PM
Yeah I've reverted back to Silva/Belfort. I'd love to see that fight regardless. It definitely would be a nice little war.

fenikz
08-26-2010, 12:32 AM
ccb can you update the front page, no clue where we are and who was picked

Caddy
08-26-2010, 12:40 AM
There is a list at the top of page 3 with some updates.

fenikz
08-26-2010, 12:44 AM
Ben Henderson, LW
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20091012122542_IMG_4954.JPG

Ravens1991
08-26-2010, 06:33 PM
Roy Nelson HWT.

phlysac
08-26-2010, 06:49 PM
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3122/hathaway.png
John "The Hitman" Hathaway - Welterweight - Under 26

and

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/644/barao.png
Renan "Barao" do Nascimento Mota Pegado - Bantamweight -
Under 26



Fight Card

Bantamweight
Dominick Cruz (16-1) vs Renan Barao (23-1)

Featherweight
Jose Aldo (17-1) vs TBA

Lightweight
Frankie Edgar (13-1) vs Gray Maynard (10-0)

Welterweight
TBA vs John Hathaway (14-0)

Middleweight
Demian Maia (13-2) vs TBA

Light Heavyweight
Rashad Evans (15-1-1) vs Ryan Bader ( 11-0)

Heavyweight
Fabricio Werdum (14-4-1) vs TBA

Ravens1991
08-26-2010, 07:04 PM
Rani Yahya. Bantamweight under 26

fenikz
08-26-2010, 07:15 PM
Anthony Pettis, LW, 23 Years Old
dSClPXMgUYo
go to 3:25 :D

lol @ mir, OOO OOO OOO OOO OOO

Fedor v Overeem
Shogun v Mousasi
Hendo v Marquardt
Rumble v Daley
Henderson v Pettis

Rob S
08-26-2010, 07:39 PM
Question, is a young fighters development taken into account here? Like, if I take a young guy and match him against a vet in a fight that is def. interesting, but also a bad move for a corp. like the UFC in terms of protecting a young fighter, would it count against me?

fenikz
08-26-2010, 07:41 PM
Pretty sure it's for right now as if the PPV were going to happen tomarrow

Rob S
08-26-2010, 07:45 PM
Pretty sure it's for right now as if the PPV were going to happen tomarrow

Yeah, I got that. My issue is do we need to look beyond the PPV? For instance, I would have loved to see Jon Jones fight pretty much anyone at 205 a year ago even tho it would have been a terrible move for the UFC if they moved him too soon and he lost. That PPV still would have been very interesting even if it wound up being a bad long term move for the organization. Catch my drift?

fenikz
08-26-2010, 07:54 PM
oh I see, if you think the guy is of level talent I don't see why not

Rob S
08-26-2010, 08:01 PM
oh I see, if you think the guy is of level talent I don't see why not

Cool. I reserve the right to change this in case CCB comes in and says we need to worry about the future and protect young fighters.

I am going to throw Phil Davis in there with Forrest Griffin. I think the kid is one of, if not the, brightest prospects in MMA and stands a very good chance in this fight with his wrestling. Maybe he will be totally out of his depth, but idk and I def. would like to see it. A win would be massive for Davis and a loss would pretty much kill off Forrest once and for all as a possible contender so both guys will be coming hungry.

http://mmaaddicts.com/dann/ufc-109-relentless/phil-davis.JPG

VS

http://www.mmafrenzy.com/files/2007/05/forrest-griffin.jpg

ccB
08-26-2010, 08:37 PM
Rob we aren't taking the future into account


I'll take

http://squabbles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/rory_macdonald.jpg

170: Rory MacDonald (under 26)

Caddy
08-27-2010, 03:18 AM
HW Todd Duffee (U-26)



and

FW Chad Mendes (U-26)

http://mattfaler.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/chad-mendes.jpg


Fight Card

Main Event
Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort

Co-Main Event
Lyoto Machida vs Rich Franklin

Main Card
Shinya Aoki vs George Sotiropolous

Jake Shields vs TBA

Undetermined
Brian Bowles vs TBA

Josh Grispi vs Chad Mendes

Stefan Struve vs TBA

ccB
08-27-2010, 03:50 AM
http://www.mmaconvert.com/wp-content/uploads/post-images/thiago_alves_5.jpg

185: Thiago Alves

Main Event:
HW: Brock Lesnar v Cain Velasquez

205: Randy Couture v Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
135: Urijah Faber v Miguel Angel Torres
185: Hector Lombard v Thiago Alves

Caddy
08-27-2010, 04:27 AM
LOL at the MW bout. Two short guys with unnaturally large upper bodies!

ccB
08-27-2010, 04:28 AM
LOL at the MW bout. Two short guys with unnaturally large upper bodies!

hahaha yup, and it would be a ******* war! Out of all the fights I've put together on my card that would be the one I'd be most excited to see.

Caddy
08-27-2010, 04:41 AM
hahaha yup, and it would be a ******* war! Out of all the fights I've put together on my card that would be the one I'd be most excited to see.

Definitely.

My favourite fight on my card is Sotiropolous vs Aoki. Partially because George is Aussie, but also because I reckon it'd be a wicked ground war.

Rob S
08-27-2010, 08:20 AM
Renan Barao - Under 26

Guy is a beast, will be progressing insanely quickly due to his experience and being from Aldo's camp. He will be a top 3-5 BW within the year imo.

http://mattfaler.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/renan-barao.jpg

Caddy
08-27-2010, 08:38 AM
I believe he has been picked Rob.

Rob S
08-27-2010, 08:56 AM
I will take Eduardo Dantas then. Under 26.

fenikz
08-27-2010, 04:03 PM
Manny Gamburyan, FW
http://www.cagetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/manny-gamburyan.jpg

Ravens1991
08-28-2010, 01:31 AM
Micah Miller FW 26

phlysac
08-28-2010, 01:48 AM
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4381/joshkoscheck.jpg
Josh Koscheck - Welterweight

and

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9161/bibianofernandes1.jpg
Bibiano "The Flash" Fernandes - Featherweight


Fight Card

Bantamweight
Dominick Cruz (16-1) vs Renan Barao (23-1)

Featherweight
Jose Aldo (17-1) vs Bibiano Fernandes (8-2)

Lightweight
Frankie Edgar (13-1) vs Gray Maynard (10-0)

Welterweight
Josh Koscheck (15-4) vs John Hathaway (14-0)

Middleweight
Demian Maia (13-2) vs TBA

Light Heavyweight
Rashad Evans (15-1-1) vs Ryan Bader ( 11-0)

Heavyweight
Fabricio Werdum (14-4-1) vs TBA

Caddy
08-28-2010, 08:13 AM
Damn you Phylsac!

phlysac
08-28-2010, 08:33 AM
Damn you Phylsac!

I assume you wanted Kos. Can't believe he was still there. I passed him up several times to make sure I got the Under 26ers and stuff.

Caddy
08-28-2010, 08:41 AM
Yeah I was the same. There are some good Welterweights around though so it's not a huge problem!

phlysac
08-28-2010, 09:10 AM
Yeah I was the same. There are some good Welterweights around though so it's not a huge problem!

That's why I put it off. But to get a top 3-5 in a division in round 11/12 is pretty crazy.

Ravens1991
08-28-2010, 09:14 AM
The crusher Kawajiri LW

phlysac
08-28-2010, 09:46 AM
The crusher Kawajiri LW

Do you want Diego Sanchez or BJ Penn at WW?

Going by weights they currently fight at Sanchez would be WW and Penn at LW

Ravens1991
08-28-2010, 09:50 AM
I could have sworn he said he would gog to 155. if he isnt and i need 2 change a pick let me know

phlysac
08-28-2010, 10:09 AM
I could have sworn he said he would gog to 155. if he isnt and i need 2 change a pick let me know

You just have to decide between the divisions. Sanchez and Penn have fought at both divisions. Penn currently fights at LW and Sanchez moved back to WW.

Ravens1991
08-28-2010, 10:12 AM
my plan was to send Penn to WW and have him fight Diaz. Is that alright w/ everyone???

phlysac
08-28-2010, 10:17 AM
Not my decision but be prepared for it to be denied.

Caddy was denied the ability to move Anderson Silva to LHW and CCB wasn't able to use Mousasi at MW.

Based on that alone I had solely been picking my guys at the weights that they are currently fighting.

It's definitely a confused situation though. CCB slotted Randy Couture at LHW when his current fight is at HW.

Ravens1991
08-28-2010, 12:29 PM
Well Mousasi said he will never fight at MW again. If Diego said I will never fight at LW again Ill change it.

Rob S
08-28-2010, 12:32 PM
Penn said he would fight at MW, so the only question would be Diego at 155 which I think is reasonable.

phlysac
08-28-2010, 01:09 PM
Penn said he would fight at MW, so the only question would be Diego at 155 which I think is reasonable.

Then Anderson Silva should be allowed to fight LHW?

Final round and it's still being discussed.

Rob S
08-28-2010, 01:26 PM
Then Anderson Silva should be allowed to fight LHW?

Final round and it's still being discussed.

Hasn't Anderson said that he won't go to 205 ever again? I don't think Diego said that, I easily could have missed it tho.

phlysac
08-28-2010, 01:34 PM
Hasn't Anderson said that he won't go to 205 ever again? I don't think Diego said that, I easily could have missed it tho.

No, but he said he'd NEVER fight Machida.


Here's a refresh of all previous discussion on the topic...

anything goes.
I will also have final say if any controversy arises.
Anderson Silva - Middleweight (Could possibly change)


(Mousasi) will be fighting MW for me.
What are your rules for weightclasses? Any fight in that class in their career or?

Mousasi said in 2008 he'd never fight MW again. I'm fine with it but it'd be cool if there was a definite "rule" we are using for weight classes.

Thanks in advance
I was just going to go by fighters fighting in weight classes that it is possible for them to make. Mousasi can and has made 185 it's just taxing for him. So if you want to go by current weight classes that's fine but then guys like Anderson must fight at 185, since he's recently said he has no intention of going back to 205, and a guy like Jose Aldo who can and has fought from 135-155 would be forced to kept at 145, it also created a weird dilemma with a guy like Thiago Alves. I was just trying to give us the most freedom to make interesting match ups, but if you guys have issue with Gegard at 185 I will be repicking someone different, because I don't want him at 205.
Ya I say just make em fight at what they are fighting at so there aren't any issues
Anthony "Rumble" Johnson
You know he's fighting Middleweight now right?
Because of the knee injury and his struggle to cut weight, Johnson is now considering a move to the middleweight division of the UFC.[13] Johnson indicated on the June 4, 2010, episode of Inside MMA that he must typically lose 40 pounds to make 170. He begins dieting as soon as he is scheduled to fight and must cut the remainder before the weigh in. Despite this, Johnson said that although he may take a fight at 185, he does not plan to remain there and intends to stay at 170.
Caddy, I don't know how I feel about you having Machida v Silva, that is a fight that would never ever happen, both fighters have went on record saying they would never fight. What do the rest of you guys think about this? plus I thought we were taking fighters only at their current fighting weight, Anderson has recently stated he has no interest at fighting at 205 no more.

I'll leave this in the hands of you guys to figure out, just want to clear this up before it gets too far away from his pick.
I thought the point of this was to put on the most entertaining card possible and there isn't any mention of something like this being prohibited.
Well I mean if you want to do that fight it wouldn't be entertaining, it would be a glorified sparring match. I'm more perturbed with the weight class thing because my Mousasi pick got overturned for basically the same thing.
Ya I would just force Silva to be a MW, he isn't gonna be fighting at LHW except maybe vs Shogun for the title, especially wouldn't move up to fight Machida
I'm definitely happy with it. Just let me know what the ruling is sooner rather than later.
We'll just put a pause on this to get a couple more opinions from those in the draft, so that you are not at a disadvantage with who you can select.
I'll just change it. Save all the controversy and let everyone get on with the draft.

ccB
08-28-2010, 03:16 PM
That's why I put it off. But to get a top 3-5 in a division in round 11/12 is pretty crazy.


Remember it's not about rankings though, it's about fights you'd pay to see and Koscheck doesn't have the most crowd appeasing style, I'm sure that's why he fell...that's why I didn't take him at least.

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I really wish I would of stuck to my guns and let everyone draft based on what weights their fighters could realistically make, but I didn't so, Diego's next fight is v Paulo Thiago @ 170 so I'd say you have to fight him at welterweight just to keep things fair for everyone else. Kind of wishing I overturned that Anthony Johnson pick but I forgot about it, because I'd put money on it the guy never fights at 170 again in his career, and he's getting picked on a technicality since he has no fight scheduled we're assuming it would be at 170 even though it's more likely it would be a middleweight fight, but it's whatever.

CCB slotted Randy Couture at LHW when his current fight is at HW.

That fight's at a catchweight since it's a freakshow fight, all Randy's most recent fights have been at 205


and here is the Anderson Silva quote:

"It would be a pretension on my part to move up to perform at 205-pounds or even in the heavyweight division. I feel good in my category, happy with our outcomes and there will always be someone to challenge for the 185-pound belt."

phlysac
08-28-2010, 04:23 PM
Remember it's not about rankings though, it's about fights you'd pay to see and Koscheck doesn't have the most crowd appeasing style, I'm sure that's why he fell...that's why I didn't take him at least.

I definitely understand your point but Kos is a more exciting personality and has a more exciting style than Matt Hughes ever did and Hughes was one of the biggest and most consistent PPV draws in MMA history.

This is the beauty of the voting system we have. Everyone likes fights/matchups for different reasons.

ccB
08-28-2010, 04:41 PM
I definitely understand your point but Kos is a more exciting personality and has a more exciting style than Matt Hughes ever did and Hughes was one of the biggest and most consistent PPV draws in MMA history.

This is the beauty of the voting system we have. Everyone likes fights/matchups for different reasons.

I don't want to seem like I was knocking your pick in anyway, it was definitely a great value pick this late, just was trying to muster up a reason as to why he dropped so far.

phlysac
08-28-2010, 04:51 PM
I don't want to seem like I was knocking your pick in anyway, it was definitely a great value pick this late, just was trying to muster up a reason as to why he dropped so far.

Oh, I know. I think he fell because none of us really like him. lulz.

Rob S
08-28-2010, 05:06 PM
Who is up? Me?

phlysac
08-28-2010, 05:14 PM
Who is up? Me?

Fenikz. I txted him at 10:30 this morning but never heard back.

Caddy
08-28-2010, 07:30 PM
Oh, I know. I think he fell because none of us really like him. lulz.

I actually like Koscheck. Met him in person earlier in the year and he is surprisingly a really nice guy.

phlysac
08-28-2010, 07:54 PM
I actually like Koscheck. Met him in person earlier in the year and he is surprisingly a really nice guy.

That's cool. I tend to defend the guy because he's from the same area as me and also went to a PSAC school, as I did. I just know that most people love to hate him. He just knows that being THE bad guy sells alot more ticket than just being another one of the good guys.

Anyoe have any luck getting ahold of fenikz?

phlysac
08-29-2010, 12:01 AM
Great showing by my guys Edgar, Maynard, and Maia tonight.

fenikz
08-29-2010, 06:09 AM
Marlon Sandro, FW
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20090803074520_200908021256.JPG

Fedor v Overeem
Shogun v Mousasi
Hendo v Marquardt
Rumble v Daley
Henderson v Pettis
Gamburyan v Sandro

ccB
08-29-2010, 06:25 PM
http://artofmma.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/nate-diaz3.jpg

170: Nate Diaz (u26)

HW: Brock Lesnar v Cain Velasquez
205: Randy Couture v Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
185: Hector Lombard v Thiago Alves
170: Nate Diaz v Rory MacDonald
135: Urijah Faber v Miguel Torres

Rob S
08-29-2010, 08:32 PM
Michael Mayday McDonald for me. BW, under 26.

Sets up a monster prospect showdown:

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20100713030707_E80E7496.JPG

VS.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fteSu9z1b2o/STNZhYU1i5I/AAAAAAAAAQo/ZCJS9u_Njh0/s200/EDUARDO+DANTAS.gif

ccB
08-29-2010, 08:33 PM
oh my bad I didn't mean to skip you Rob

Rob S
08-29-2010, 08:39 PM
oh my bad I didn't mean to skip you Rob

It's cool. I got my WW anyway. Diaz vs Rory Mac should be nice.

Caddy
08-29-2010, 09:32 PM
Matt Hughes, WW

http://themmaspace.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Matt%20Hughes.jpg

and

Big Nog, HW

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00426/nog_280x390_426847a.jpg

Chucky
08-29-2010, 09:35 PM
Big Nog is a ******* steal

ccB
08-29-2010, 09:44 PM
http://cdn.cagepotato.com/www/sites/default/files/DunhamEscuderoUFN20.jpeg

155: Evan Dunham

There may be higher rated guys still available but this guy is a stud, and is super exciting to watch fight, he vs Alvarez would be a war.

HW: Brock Lesnar v Cain Velasquez
205: Randy Couture v Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
185: Hector Lombard v Thiago Alves
170: Nate Diaz v Rory MacDonald
155: Eddie Alvarez v Evan Dunham
135: Urijah Faber v Miguel Torres
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Rob S
08-29-2010, 11:02 PM
I'm going with Diego Nunes if he isnt taken.

phlysac
08-30-2010, 09:49 PM
Complete listing of draftpicks at the top of page 3


fenikz is OTC!

Rob S
08-30-2010, 09:57 PM
Complete listing of draftpicks at the top of page 3


fenikz is OTC!

sick, man. Good looks on the board.

fenikz
08-31-2010, 03:47 PM
Mike Easton, BW, Under 25
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/thumbnail_crop/600/_images/pictures/20091006073651_UWCRedemption0092.JPG

phlysac
09-01-2010, 05:14 PM
Happy Birthday Ravens!!!

ccB
09-01-2010, 05:20 PM
my laptop got trashed by a virus so my internet access will be limited...let's get this finished though fellars only a handful of picks to go.

phlysac
09-01-2010, 05:29 PM
I'd make my final two selections but Ravens also needs a Middleweight so I can't risk stealing his pick.

Ravens1991
09-01-2010, 07:34 PM
I take Michael Bisping MW. His trash talking shows w/ Chael Sonnen maybe better then the actual fight but I would like to see this fight.

Ravens1991
09-01-2010, 07:38 PM
I substitute Sanchez for Mitsuhiro Ishida LW.

Caddy
09-01-2010, 08:20 PM
I needz one moar BW!

phlysac
09-02-2010, 06:06 PM
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5475/chrisleben.jpg
"The Crippler" Chris Leben - Middleweight

and

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8379/aleksemelianenkotattoos.jpg
Aleksander "The Grim Reaper" Emelianenko - Heavyweight


Fight Card

Bantamweight
Dominick Cruz (16-1) - WEC Bantamweight Champion - Sherdog #1 Bantamweight
vs
Renan Barao (21-1-1) - WEC - Sherdog #1 Brazilian Prospect

Featherweight
Jose Aldo (17-1) - WEC Featherweight Champion - Sherdog #1 Featherweight/#3 Pound-for-Pound
vs
Bibiano Fernandes (8-2) - DREAM Featherweight Champion

Lightweight
Frankie Edgar (13-1) - UFC Lightweight Champion - Sherdog #1 Lightweight/#4 Pound-for-Pound
vs
Gray Maynard (10-0) - UFC Lightweight #1 Contender

Welterweight
Josh Koscheck (15-4) - UFC - Sherdog #5 Welterweight
vs
John Hathaway (14-0) - UFC

Middleweight
Demian Maia (13-2) - UFC
vs
Chris Leben (21-6) - UFC

Light Heavyweight
Rashad Evans (15-1-1) - UFC - Sherdog #10 Pound-for-Pound
vs
Ryan Bader ( 11-0) - UFC - Ultimate Fighter Season 8 Champion

Heavyweight
Fabricio Werdum (14-4-1) - Strikeforce - Sherdog #2 Heavyweight
vs
Aleksander Emelianenko (17-3) - ProFC Heavyweight Champion

Caddy
09-03-2010, 08:13 PM
Guyyyyyyzzzzzzzzzzz

phlysac
09-04-2010, 08:41 AM
C'mon fellas let's finish this up so we can get to the voting.


In hopes of speeding this up, according to my analysis (I apologize if there are discrepencies) these are the remaining draft needs in draft order...


14 (80) - ravens - Bantamweight
14 (81) - fenikz - Under 26 - Bantamweight

14 (83) - ccb - Under 26 - Featherweight
14 (84) - caddy - Under 26 - Bantamweight


Up-to-date Draft Results and Rosters are available at the top of page 3.

Rob S
09-04-2010, 08:52 AM
Raphael Assuncao

Sets up a rematch with Diego Nunes

fenikz
09-05-2010, 07:24 PM
Abel Cullum, BW, Under 25

ccB
09-05-2010, 07:42 PM
C'mon fellas let's finish this up so we can get to the voting.


In hopes of speeding this up, according to my analysis (I apologize if there are discrepencies) these are the remaining draft needs in draft order...


14 (80) - ravens - Bantamweight
14 (81) - fenikz - Under 26 - Bantamweight

14 (83) - ccb - Under 26 - Featherweight
14 (84) - caddy - Under 26 - Bantamweight


Up-to-date Draft Results and Rosters are available at the top of page 3.

My featherweight doesn't have to be u26, I already have 4 of those ( MacDonald, Alvarez, Diaz, and Zombie)

but I'll take....

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/11332-GarciaSungJung332WEC48.jpg

145: Leonard Garcia

To set up the epic rematch v THE KOREAN ZOMBIE!

HW: Brock Lesnar v Cain Velasquez
205: Randy Couture v Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
185: Hector Lombard v Thiago Alves
170: Nate Diaz (u26) v Rory MacDonald (u26)
155: Eddie Alvarez (u26) v Evan Dunham
145: Chang Sung Jung (u26) v Leonard Garcia
135: Urijah Faber v Miguel Torres

Caddy
09-06-2010, 06:33 AM
I'll take Chase Beebe, BW (Under 26)

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/262450/chase-beebe.jpg

Caddy
09-06-2010, 07:56 AM
Fight Card

Main Event

Anderson "The Spider" Silva (27-4) vs Vitor Belfort (19-8)8)

Main Card

Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida (16-1) vs Rich "Ace" Franklin (28-5)

Shinya Aoki (24-5) vs George Sotiropoulos (13-2)

Jake Shields (25-4) vs Matt Hughes (45-7)

Antonio "Minotauro" Nogueira (32-6) vs Todd Duffee (6-1)

Under Card

Brian Bowles (8-1) vs Chase "The Rage" Beebe (13-5)

Josh "The Fluke" Grispi (14-1) vs Chad "Money" Mendes (8-0)




Also would anyone mind if I switched out Stefan Struve for another U-26 heavyweight?

Ravens1991
09-06-2010, 11:47 AM
go or it Caddy.

phlysac
09-06-2010, 08:28 PM
Ravens you still need to select your final fighter. Batamweight.


Also, could everyone check the top of page 3 for accuracy. I have a few questionable weights that I was unsure of.

phlysac
09-06-2010, 08:29 PM
I'll post the updated final draft board once I'm contacted regarding any corrections.

Ravens1991
09-06-2010, 08:32 PM
I am sorry I forgot, let me find a BW under 26.

Ravens1991
09-06-2010, 08:48 PM
Joseph Benavidez

phlysac
09-06-2010, 09:19 PM
I am sorry I forgot, let me find a BW under 26.

Benavidez isn't under 26 (turned 26 in July) but that's fine because you already had 4 "under-26ers"

phlysac
09-06-2010, 09:21 PM
Final Draft Board
Please check for accuracy
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1 (1) - caddy - Anderson Silva - Middleweight
1 (2) - ccb - Brock Lesnar - Heavyweight
1 (3) - rob - George St. Pierre - Welterweight
1 (4) - fenikz - Fedor Emelianenko - Heavyweight
1 (5) - ravens - Jon Jones - Light Heavyweight - Under 26
1 (6) - phly - Jose Aldo - Featherweight - Under 26
2 (7) - phly - Frankie Edgar - Lightweight
2 (8 ) - ravens - B.J. Penn - Lightweight
2 (9) - fenikz - Mauricio Rua - Light Heavyweight
2 (10) - rob - Junior dos Santos - Heavyweight - Under 26
2 (11) - ccb - Cain Velasquez - Heavyweight
2 (12) - caddy - Lyoto Machida - Light Heavyweight
3 (13) - caddy - Jake Shields - Welterweight
3 (14) - ccb - Urijah Faber- Bantamweight
3 (15) - rob - Shane Carwin - Heavyweight
3 (16) - fenikz - Alistair Overeem - Heavyweight
3 (17) - ravens - Chael Sonnen - Middleweight
3 (18 ) - phly - Rashad Evans - Light Heavyweight
4 (19) - phly - Dominick Cruz - Bantamweight - Under 26
4 (20) - ravens - Quentin Jackson - Light Heavyweight
4 (21) - fenikz - Gegard Mousasi - Light Heavyweight - Under 26
4 (22) - rob - Jon Fitch - Welterweight
4 (23) - ccb - Eddie Alvarez - Lightweight - Under 26
4 (24) - caddy - Shinya Aoki - Lightweight
5 (25) - caddy - Vitor Belfort - Middleweight
5 (26) - ccb - Antonio Rogerio Nogueira - Light Heavyweight
5 (27) - rob - Gilbert Melendez - Lightweight
5 (28 ) - fenikz - Dan Henderson - Middleweight
5 (29) - ravens - Nick Diaz - Welterweight
5 (30) - phly - Fabricio Werdum - Heavyweight
6 (31) - phly - Demian Maia - Middleweight
6 (32) - ravens - Frank Mir - Heavyweight
6 (33) - fenikz - Nate Marquardt - Middleweight
6 (34) - rob - Kenny Florian - Lightweight
6 (35) - ccb - Chan Sung Jung - Featherweight - Under 26
6 (36) - caddy - George Sotiropoulos - Lightweight
7 (37) - caddy - Josh Grispi - Featherweight - Under 26
7 (38 ) - ccb - Miguel Angel Torres - Bantamweight
7 (39) - rob - Forrest Griffin - Light Heavyweight
7 (40) - fenikz - Anthony Johnson - Welterweight
7 (41) - ravens - Joe Soto - Featherweight - Under 26
7 (42) - phly - Gray Maynard - Lightweight
8 (43) - phly - Ryan Bader - Light Heavyweight
8 (44) - ravens - Mitsuhiro Ishida- Welterweight
8 (45) - fenikz - Paul Daley - Welterweight
8 (46) - rob - Ronaldo Souza dos Santos - Middleweight
8 (47) - ccb - Randy Couture - Light Heavyweight
8 (48 ) - caddy - Rich Franklin - Light Heavyweight
9 (49) - caddy - Brian Bowles - Bantamweight
9 (50) - ccb - Hector Lombard - Middleweight
9 (51) - rob - Wanderlei Silva - Middleweight
9 (52) - fenikz - Benson Henderson - Lightweight
9 (53) - ravens - Roy Nelson - Heavyweight
9 (54) - phly - John Hathaway - Welterweight - Under 26
10 (55) - phly - Renan do Nascimento Moto Pegado - Bantamweight - Under 26
10 (56) - ravens - Rani Yahya - Bantamweight - Under 26
10 (57) - fenikz - Anthony Pettis - Lightweight - Under 26
10 (58 ) - rob - Phil Davis - Light Heavyweight - Under 26
10 (59) - ccb - Rory MacDonald - Welterweight - Under 26
10 (60) - caddy - Todd Duffee- Heavyweight - Under 26
11 (61) - caddy - Chad Mendes - Featherweight - Under 26
11 (62) - ccb - Thiago Alves - Welterweight
11 (63) - rob - Eduardo Dantas - Bantamweight - Under 26
11 (64) - fenikz - Manny Gamburyan - Featherweight
11 (65) - ravens - Micah Miller - Featherweight - Under 26
11 (66) - phly - Josh Koscheck - Welterweight
12 (67)- phly - Bibiano Fernandes - Featherweight
12 (68 ) - ravens - Tatsuya Kawajiri - Lightweight
12 (69) - fenikz - Marlon Sandro - Featherweight
12 (70) - rob - Michael McDonald -Bantamweight - Under 26
12 (71) - ccb - Nate Diaz - Welterweight - Under 26
12 (72) - caddy - Matt Hughes - Welterweight
13 (73) - caddy - Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera - Heavyweight
13 (74) - ccb - Evan Dunham - Lightweight
13 (75) - rob - Diego Nunes - Featherweight
13 (76) - fenikz - Mike Easton - Bantamweight - Under 26
13 (77) - ravens - Michael Bisping - Middleweight
13 (78 ) - phly - Chris Leben - Middleweight
14 (79) - phly - Aleksander Emelianenko - Heavyweight
14 (80) - ravens - Joseph Benavidez - Bantamweight
14 (81) - fenikz - Abel Cullum - Bantamweight - Under 26
14 (82) - rob - Raphael Assuncao - Featherweight
14 (83) - ccb - Leonard Garcia - Featherweight
14 (84) - caddy - Chase Beebe - bantamweight - Under 26

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caddy

Heavyweight
1.Todd Duffee
2.Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera

Light Heavyweight
1.Lyoto Machida
2.Rich Franklin

Middleweight
1.Anderson Silva
2.Vitor Belfort

Welterweight
1.Jake Shields
2.Matt Hughes

Lightweight
1.Shinya Aoki
2.George Sotiropoulos

Featherweight
1.Josh Grispi
2.Chad Mendes

Bantamweight
1.Brian Bowles
2.Chase Beebe

Under 26
1.Josh Grispi
2.Stefan Struve
3.Chad Mendes
4.Chase Beebe
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ccb

Heavyweight
1.Brock Lesnar
2.Cain Velasquez

Light Heavyweight
1.Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
2.Randy Couture

Middleweight
1.Hector Lombard
2.Thiago Alves

Welterweight
1.Rory MacDonald
2.Nate Diaz

Lightweight
1.Eddie Alvarez
2.Evan Dunham

Featherweight
1.Chan Sung Jung
2.Leonard Garcia

Bantamweight
1.Urijah Faber
2.Miguel Angel Torres

Under 26
1. Eddie Alvarez
2. Chan Sung Jung
3.Rory MacDonald
4.Nate Diaz
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rob

Heavyweight
1.Junior dos Santos
2.Shane Carwin

Light Heavyweight
1.Forrest Griffin
2.Phil Davis

Middleweight
1.Ronaldo Souza dos Santos
2.Wanderlei Silva

Welterweight
1.George St. Pierre
2.Jon Fitch

Lightweight
1.Gilbert Melendez
2.Kenny Florian

Featherweight
1.Diego Nunes
2.Raphael Assuncao

Bantamweight
1.Eduardo Dantas
2.Michael McDonald

Under 26
1.Junior dos Santos
2.Phil Davis
3.Eduardo Dantas
4.Michael McDonald
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fenikz

Heavyweight
1.Fedor Emelianenko
2.Alistair Overeem

Light Heavyweight
1.Mauricio Rua
2.Gegard Mousasi

Middleweight
1.Dan Henderson
2.Nate Marquardt

Welterweight
1.Anthony Johnson
2.Paul Daley

Lightweight
1.Benson Henderson
2.Anthony Pettis

Featherweight
1.Manny Gamburyan
2.Marlon Sandro

Bantamweight
1.Mike Easton
2.Abel Cullum

Under 26
1.Gegard Mousasi
2.Anthony Pettis
3.Mike Easton
4.Abel Cullum
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ravens

Heavyweight
1.Frank Mir
2.Roy Nelson

Light Heavyweight
1.Jon Jones
2.Quentin Jackson

Middleweight
1.Chael Sonnen
2.Michael Bisping

Welterweight
1.Nick Diaz
2.Mitsuhiro Ishida

Lightweight
1.B.J. Penn
2.Tatsuya Kawajiri

Featherweight
1.Joe Soto
2.Micah Miller

Bantamweight
1.Rani Yahya
2.Joseph Benavidez

Under 26
1.Jon Jones
2.Joe Soto
3.Rani Yahya
4.Micah Miller
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phly

Heavyweight
1.Fabricio Werdum
2.Aleksander Emelianenko

Light Heavyweight
1.Rashad Evans
2.Ryan Bader

Middleweight
1.Demian Maia
2.Chris Leben

Welterweight
1.Josh Koscheck
2.John Hathaway

Lightweight
1.Frankie Edgar
2.Gray Maynard

Featherweight
1.Jose Aldo
2.Bibiano Fernandes

Bantamweight
1.Dominick Cruz
2.Renan Barao

Under 26
1.Jose Aldo
2.Dominick Cruz
3.John Hathaway
4.Renan Barao
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Caddy
09-06-2010, 09:22 PM
Phylsac I changed Stefan Struve for Todd Duffee.

phlysac
09-09-2010, 06:55 PM
Are we going to do this vote?