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Mr. Goosemahn
08-23-2010, 02:18 PM
To see previously discussed prospects, click here.
Jake Locker - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2230943
Cameron Heyward - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41890
Marvin Austin - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41892
Adrian Clayborn - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41919
Anthony Castonzo - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41929
Greg Romeus - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41940
Von Miller - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2238637
Mike Pouncey - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41959
Allen Bailey - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41971
Mark Herzlich - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41993
Prince Amukamara - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42000
Gabe Carimi - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42014
Patrick Peterson - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42030
Terrance Toliver - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42042
Noel Devine - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42053
DeAndre McDaniel - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42063
A. J. Green - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42070
Jonathan Baldwin - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42075
Michael Floyd - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42089
Joseph Barksdale - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42098
Bruce Carter - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42108
Rodney Hudson - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42122
Marcus Cannon - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42132
Jerrell Powe - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42149
Kyle Rudolph - httphttp://draftcountdown.com/forum/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=47://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42196
Ryan Mallett - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42210
Christian Ponder - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42239
Evan Royster - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42240
Ryan Kerrigan - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42261
Stephen Paea - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42270
Nate Solder - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2266518


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/03/02/kristofer_odowd.jpg

C Kris O'Dowd, USC
6'5 - 315 lbs. - Senior

No highlights :(

Very good center prospect, IMO. Was hampered by injuries last year. I really, really liked him and hoped the Steelers would take him when he was available, but it's all good with Pouncey now. I'm not going to lie, I had O'Dowd over Mack and Pouncey as guys on my Steelers wishlist, and still like him a lot. I also happen to love Pouncey now :D

Anyways, great size for a center, first true freshman to start at center in USC history. Read many people had him as a first rounder for a while, then he started appearing in the second and third round last year (had he declared as a junior). How high do you guys have him ranked right now?

BeerBaron
08-23-2010, 02:29 PM
The NFL is shifting towards having bigger, stronger centers as more and more teams switch to the 3-4 since they will need their center to handle huge NTs. In a division like the AFC East and North especially, where almost every team runs the 3-4 it is very important.

So that will help him for sure...plus the tons of experience at a high profile school. He needs to get past the injuries though and stay healthy for a year if he wants to be a first rounder.

wicket
08-23-2010, 02:40 PM
was kinda dissapointed by his last season tbqh

FlyingElvis
08-23-2010, 03:08 PM
I wanted to see the Pats grab O'Dowd in the second round this year, and I'll stick with that again in 2011. If he really plays well and gets into the 1st I'd be fine with that, too. NE does have 2 first round picks coming up and 2 in the second, as well.

RaiderNation
08-23-2010, 03:14 PM
He would be perfect for the Raiders in the 2nd.

BRAVEHEART
08-23-2010, 03:32 PM
He needs to stay healthy. I also don't think he's a legit 6'5". I wouldn't be surprised if he's a big 6'3". He doesn't have long arms either. Besides for that, he's pretty legit. Not the most athletic lineman, but he's smart, polished, and strong.

He's one of those few C's that come along and deserve a 1st round grade.

BeerBaron
08-23-2010, 03:52 PM
He's one of those few C's that come along and deserve a 1st round grade.

I think their numbers are going to increase in the near future. One reason, as I mentioned above, is that you need a bigger, more powerful center to handle all of the 3-4 NTs.

Plus, interior offensive lineman have traditionally been the most successful position to draft in the first round. Not many guards and centers go in the first, but those that do tend to be very, very good. I think more teams will see how safe of a pick it is and how many of them turn into pro bowlers and will start drafting more as well.

BRAVEHEART
08-23-2010, 04:24 PM
I think their numbers are going to increase in the near future. One reason, as I mentioned above, is that you need a bigger, more powerful center to handle all of the 3-4 NTs.

Plus, interior offensive lineman have traditionally been the most successful position to draft in the first round. Not many guards and centers go in the first, but those that do tend to be very, very good. I think more teams will see how safe of a pick it is and how many of them turn into pro bowlers and will start drafting more as well[/B].

That's pretty much it. 1st round interior linemen are usually elite at their posistion, and safe at that. Other posistions often get reached at too often (QB, LT, DE, WR, etc...). (for the most part) Nobody reaches for and interior lineman, because they are easy to aqcuire.

A Perfect Score
08-23-2010, 06:24 PM
He would look damn good in a Ravens uniform. Personally, I'm a huge fan and I think he will end up being every bit the prospect Mack or Pouncey were. Still not as good as Mangold though.

prock
08-23-2010, 06:25 PM
Would look good in a Vikings uniform too.

soybean
08-24-2010, 06:59 PM
This Foo shut down Ndamukong Suh. Sure he might've been a sophmore but O'dowd was a true freshman.

Watch the USC vs. nebraska game, as the announcers said "you could've driven a big rig through those holes!"

thenewfeature06
08-24-2010, 07:00 PM
I really do want Oakland to draft him, he would be a great young piece for a developing line.

K Train
08-24-2010, 07:07 PM
hes sick....not quite mangold/pouncey/mack status, but definitely above unger/wood/kalil and hes definitely got the stones to dominate big NTs. id be on board with drafting him as a G next year....kemo-pouncey-odowd=sweet sweet sexual magic, what an interior line turn around that would be

BRAVEHEART
08-24-2010, 08:00 PM
hes sick....not quite mangold/pouncey/mack status, but definitely above unger/wood/kalil and hes definitely got the stones to dominate big NTs. id be on board with drafting him as a G next year....kemo-pouncey-odowd=sweet sweet sexual magic, what an interior line turn around that would be

I'd say he's above Mack, less than Pouncey (who's one of the best athletes at the posistion, if not the best), and on the same level of Mangold. His main concern is staying healthy, and he could be better than all of them.

Grain of Salt homer post, but that's how I feel. If he wasn't injured so often he would've been a 1st round pick already.

Hines
08-24-2010, 08:52 PM
Would love to have him in Pittsburgh.

Mr. Goosemahn
08-24-2010, 09:53 PM
I'd say he's above Mack, less than Pouncey (who's one of the best athletes at the posistion, if not the best), and on the same level of Mangold. His main concern is staying healthy, and he could be better than all of them.

Grain of Salt homer post, but that's how I feel. If he wasn't injured so often he would've been a 1st round pick already.

Okay, this confused me a bit, lemme try and rearrange this:

Mack < O'Dowd = Mangold < Pouncey

That right?

SenorGato
08-25-2010, 04:57 AM
He's not quite Alex Mack, but he reminds me of Matt Tennant...Tennant should have went earlier than the 5th. Good player with prototype size.

BeerBaron
08-25-2010, 10:25 AM
I'd say he's above Mack, less than Pouncey (who's one of the best athletes at the posistion, if not the best), and on the same level of Mangold. His main concern is staying healthy, and he could be better than all of them.

Grain of Salt homer post, but that's how I feel. If he wasn't injured so often he would've been a 1st round pick already.

So Pouncey, a rookie who has never played in a real NFL game yet, is already better than the highest paid player at his position who's been to pro bowls? Kind of insane, no?

If you mean that Pouncey has immense potential and could be better than Mangold in a few years, I might be able to better see where you're coming from, but still....

K Train
08-25-2010, 10:45 AM
i think hes more talking as a prospect in which case i would have mangold 1a and pouncey 1b followed by mack, odowd, wood, kalil, unger (just in the last few years)

edit: a piece of homerism from me, even though i was really high on pouncey before he was a steeler...i was infatuated with mangold though

A Perfect Score
08-25-2010, 10:48 AM
Rating C from the past several years, my rankins are

1. Mangold
2. Mack
3. Pouncey
4. Kalil
5. Unger

If I had to put O'Dowd in there, he would be at #3, before Pouncey and after Mack.

CC.SD
08-26-2010, 12:02 PM
He's not as good as Kalil was by a long shot. I like Kris a lot though.

619
08-26-2010, 12:27 PM
He's at the very top of my draft wishlist for the Raiders this season.

K Train
08-27-2010, 08:18 AM
tricky spam

BRAVEHEART
08-28-2010, 01:33 AM
@Mr.Gooshman & Beer

I'm rating them as prospects coming into the league. I said Pouncey is one of the most athletic centers inthe league (can you name me a center more "athletic" than him?).


Sawie for da konfusion.

Mr. Goosemahn
08-28-2010, 03:47 AM
@Mr.Gooshman & Beer

I'm rating them as prospects coming into the league. I said Pouncey is one of the most athletic centers inthe league (can you name me a center more "athletic" than him?).


Sawie for da konfusion.

Yeah, I know, I simply didn't process the order correctly, so I had to simplify it, lol.

Glad you really like Pouncey :)

And yeah, he's probably in contention for top-athlete at the position (note: just athlete, not best...yet.)

Jericho@SC
08-29-2010, 11:09 PM
As an 'SC fan, I can definitely say he's better than Kalil. He might not have a better body of work due to injuries, but when he's healthy he's one of the best run blockers of the Pete Carroll era.

I've personally watched him on live TV punk Marvin Austin in the High School All American game (when both were HS Seniors) and then a sophomore Ndamokung Suh against Nebraska when he was a freshman in '06.

He's not the most athletic, but he has elite strength and power to drive back DL's. If he can get over the injuries, he'll be a Pro Bowler for sure.

yourfavestoner
08-30-2010, 01:39 AM
As an 'SC fan, I can definitely say he's better than Kalil. He might not have a better body of work due to injuries, but when he's healthy he's one of the best run blockers of the Pete Carroll era.

I've personally watched him on live TV punk Marvin Austin in the High School All American game (when both were HS Seniors) and then a sophomore Ndamokung Suh against Nebraska when he was a freshman in '06.

He's not the most athletic, but he has elite strength and power to drive back DL's. If he can get over the injuries, he'll be a Pro Bowler for sure.

Yeah, he's a stud, and I agree that he's a better prospect than Kalil was coming out.

K Train
08-30-2010, 08:24 AM
kalil was look at as strictly a zone blocking guy, a guy that would have killed it in denver...he turned out to be better than that clearly.

i think odowd looks like a center that the teams in the AFC north and NFC east are gonna be looking at pretty hard, a guy that can handle the guys like haynesworth, rat, ngata, cody, rogers, hampton..ect

Saints-Tigers
11-09-2012, 03:43 AM
This spam is awesome. So is some of the analysis in here, l ol.