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Splat
08-23-2010, 10:21 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d819f82b9/article/source-jets-mangold-near-new-sevenyear-deal?module=HP_headlines

All-Pro center Nick Mangold (http://www.nfl.com/players/nickmangold/profile?id=MAN228598) and the Jets are closing in on a new seven year, $55 million contract, NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora reports, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

The deal would make the two-time Pro Bowl selection the highest paid center in NFL history.

The two sides have agreed on the length and total compensation of the deal, but are still working out issues such as guaranteed money, which will be between $22-$25M guaranteed.

Thecollegedropout
08-23-2010, 10:48 PM
Good he deserves it. He came to camp, never complained and did what was asked of him. He is right there with Jeff Saturday as far as the best center in the game today and he has been a great player for the team since being drafted back in 2006.

Hopefully this will wake Revis and his eyes and see how you get rewarded.

TitanHope
08-23-2010, 10:53 PM
Good he deserves it. He came to camp, never complained and did what was asked of him. He is right there with Jeff Saturday as far as the best center in the game today and he has been a great player for the team since being drafted back in 2006.

Hopefully this will wake Revis and his eyes and see how you get rewarded.

I've heard from Colts fans that Saturday has lost a step, like Kevin Mawae. So I think it's ok to list Mangold as the holder of the top Center throne.

Can't think of anyone I'd rather have, to be honest.

Saints-Tigers
08-23-2010, 10:57 PM
Interior linemen might be the way to go really. OT's are so expensive that you can basically afford two elite interior OL players, lol.

A Perfect Score
08-23-2010, 10:59 PM
He's worth every penny. He's probably the best interior lineman in the game at the moment, and he has a very nice looking future ahead of him. If they lock down Dbrick and Mangold in the same offseason, that Oline is looking pretty good for the next 10 years.

Splat
08-23-2010, 11:06 PM
He's worth every penny. He's probably the best interior lineman in the game at the moment, and he has a very nice looking future ahead of him. If they lock down Dbrick and Mangold in the same offseason, that Oline is looking pretty good for the next 10 years.

They all ready did lock up Brick so ya if this gets done and it should that is very good for the Jets.

Job
08-23-2010, 11:32 PM
What's he gonna sing?

Mr.Regular
08-23-2010, 11:56 PM
I've heard from Colts fans that Saturday has lost a step, like Kevin Mawae. So I think it's ok to list Mangold as the holder of the top Center throne.

Can't think of anyone I'd rather have, to be honest.
Yeah, I think Mangold is clearly the top center. Ryan Kalil may be the #2 at this point. Guy was a stud last year, he could be closing the gap if he keeps it up.

Glad Mangold got his extension. Was taken at the bottom of the first round and became a premier player. Those rookie contracts there aren't that lucrative so he deserved a raise. Plus he didn't ***** or moan about it, just let the team know, and then continued his business.
Performed well, acted professionally, and got what he wanted. Good for him.

PACKmanN
08-24-2010, 12:15 AM
so now he can finally afford lipsuction for his sister

Brodeur
08-24-2010, 12:52 AM
What's he gonna sing?

He's the lead singer and bass guitarist for a Wings cover band.

BlindSite
08-24-2010, 06:38 AM
This is going to suck when it's time to sign Kalil

BmoreBlackByrdz
08-24-2010, 07:03 AM
So with them signing D'Brickishaw and Mangold in the same off season to huge deals, is it even financially possible for them to also sign Revis to that $130+ million contract he wants?

Razor
08-24-2010, 07:29 AM
Interior linemen might be the way to go really. OT's are so expensive that you can basically afford two elite interior OL players, lol.

Logan Mankins says hi... *sigh*

killxswitch
08-24-2010, 07:45 AM
I've heard from Colts fans that Saturday has lost a step, like Kevin Mawae. So I think it's ok to list Mangold as the holder of the top Center throne.

Can't think of anyone I'd rather have, to be honest.

Saturday is no longer in the discussion. He is fairly dependable and his mind is as quick as ever but physically he is losing ground.

How the hell are the Jets paying for all this?

AHungryWalrus
08-24-2010, 08:58 AM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/richest-billionaires/woody-johnson-net-worth/

...I don't understand what you mean.

Jvig43
08-24-2010, 09:54 AM
Saturday is no longer in the discussion. He is fairly dependable and his mind is as quick as ever but physically he is losing ground.

How the hell are the Jets paying for all this?


How are they doing this while trying to sign Revis to his ridiculous more then 100 mill contract that he wants. Do they really not plan to have the guy play?

AHungryWalrus
08-24-2010, 09:57 AM
How are they doing this while trying to sign Revis to his ridiculous more then 100 mill contract that he wants. Do they really not plan to have the guy play?

Revis wants 160 + million. Jets are offering him 122 million. They have a plan to sign him to the 120 million dollar contract. Not the 160+.

Jvig43
08-24-2010, 10:24 AM
Revis wants 160 + million. Jets are offering him 122 million. They have a plan to sign him to the 120 million dollar contract. Not the 160+.

Link please? I believe you, I just couldnt see revis holding out if they offered him 122 million. And still, how are they paying for all of this?

killxswitch
08-24-2010, 10:42 AM
Link please? I believe you, I just couldnt see revis holding out if they offered him 122 million. And still, how are they paying for all of this?

I've heard that said on talk radio several times. It's a 10 year contract though so the numbers are impressive but not otherworldly.

@Walrus - I understand the Jets owner is loaded, but I thought there were rules in place where your total team salary couldn't go up by more than 30% or something along those lines. The Jets have signed DBrick, Santonio Holmes, Antonio Cromartie, LDT, now Mangold, and still have Revis and David Harris to go. I don't see how it's possible to get all that money paid out without breaking the 30% rule.

ironman4579
08-24-2010, 10:44 AM
Looks like David Harris might end up being the odd man out.

yourfavestoner
08-24-2010, 11:29 AM
I've heard that said on talk radio several times. It's a 10 year contract though so the numbers are impressive but not otherworldly.

@Walrus - I understand the Jets owner is loaded, but I thought there were rules in place where your total team salary couldn't go up by more than 30% or something along those lines. The Jets have signed DBrick, Santonio Holmes, Antonio Cromartie, LDT, now Mangold, and still have Revis and David Harris to go. I don't see how it's possible to get all that money paid out without breaking the 30% rule.

I think the 30% rule only means that a player's salary cannot exceed a 30% increase in the first year of the new contract. So most of these contracts probably have a negligible raise the first year and jump way up after that.

BeerBaron
08-24-2010, 11:58 AM
I think the 30% rule only means that a player's salary cannot exceed a 30% increase in the first year of the new contract. So most of these contracts probably have a negligible raise the first year and jump way up after that.

I think it applies to the base salary of each contract year...it can't bea raise more than 30% of the previous year.

The Jets got around that by giving a huge signing bonus to D'Brick that will be paid out sometime after the first day of the next league year and before the first game...that way, if there's a lockout, they don't have to pay him until things get back on track and games get scheduled.

But I've read that Revis (or more appropriately, Revis' agent) don't want to do it that way...(a lot of teams wanted to put that into the contract of the their first round picks but many weren't going for it.)

AHungryWalrus
08-24-2010, 06:51 PM
I think it applies to the base salary of each contract year...it can't bea raise more than 30% of the previous year.

The Jets got around that by giving a huge signing bonus to D'Brick that will be paid out sometime after the first day of the next league year and before the first game...that way, if there's a lockout, they don't have to pay him until things get back on track and games get scheduled.

But I've read that Revis (or more appropriately, Revis' agent) don't want to do it that way...(a lot of teams wanted to put that into the contract of the their first round picks but many weren't going for it.)

D-Brick already has a high contract, so 30% rule doesn't apply to him so much. The issue is that the guaranteed money given out to new contracts still has to fit under the 2009 cap. That's why Brick isn't guaranteed against injury, just performance. Mangold was given rolling guarantees, but not much fully guaranteed (from what I understand) simply because we can't do it.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/comments/report-revis-demanding-162m-over-10-years-401333.html - Revis link

Harris is the odd man out for now. He and his agent have already said that they understand that without a solid CBA there probably won't be a deal.

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/comments/david-harris-extension-with-jets-not-expected-until-labor-issues-are-resolved-says-agent-401302.html

LonghornsLegend
08-24-2010, 06:57 PM
Revis will be signed also, but there is no way in hell they can bring back David Harris as well, I'd probably be looking to trade him instead of losing him for nothing.


This also makes that Jason Brown deal(even though he hit FA) look like a bargain. Granted he's not in the same caliber but he is a very good young center you can build your offensive line around and looks Mangold may get twice as much.

AHungryWalrus
08-24-2010, 07:01 PM
As for Revis, it looks like Cowlishaw story was right.

http://www.thejetsblog.com/2010/08/24/buzz-revis-back-by-thursday/

How the hell was he the one to break the news? Craziness. Sort of scared to see what the deal is, but my extremely recently developed dislike for Revis is thawing pretty rapidly.

AHungryWalrus
08-24-2010, 07:03 PM
Revis will be signed also, but there is no way in hell they can bring back David Harris as well, I'd probably be looking to trade him instead of losing him for nothing.

No way we trade Harris. Right or wrong, this is a Superbowl push year for the Jets. Even if they think they can't sign him next year, they are going to hang on to him. And if we do win, or can at least come close, I wouldn't be surprised to see us fit him under. Remember, Braylon, Santonio, Cromartie, and Jason Taylor (essentially) are under one year deals. No way we bring them all back. One of the WR's, JT, and possibly Cromartie are gone by next year.

LonghornsLegend
08-24-2010, 07:10 PM
Yea I don't expect Harris to go anywhere being that it's a SB or bust type of season, but he's still gonna leave a hole on that team next season as a really good player they need to replace.

V.I.P
08-24-2010, 07:26 PM
Can Harris play MLB in a 4-3? If so i'd give em Ruud, and a 2nd from next years draft. :-D