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J-Mike88
08-28-2010, 08:15 AM
I need some help here, and perhaps I am not the only one who is looking at final 53 projections and possible trade partners.
The crappy NFL.com website doesn't have any depth charts up now.

I want to see, a generalized depth chart of every team to see who might be canditates for trades as we near roster cutdowns.

3 years ago, the Giants had extra RB's and we needed one. So Ted Thompson sent a 6th round pick to NY for Ryan Grant.
2 years ago, the Panthers needed a long snapper, so they sent us a 6th round pick for JJ Jansen, our long snapper at the time.
We've also seen trades of Tony Moll for Derrick Martin with the Ravens, we saw just last week the Vikings and Fish hook up on a little deal.

I guess since I am asking, I will be the first here to put what I think is our depth chart. Of course, to each their own. Even a group of the top 10 Packer posters will not agree on most of these, as there are some close competions at many positions.

PACKERS DEPTH CHART

QB- Rodgers, Flynn, Graham Harrell
RB- Grant, Jackson, Starks (hurt), Lumpkin, Porter
FB- Kuhn, Q Johnson, Hall
WR- Jennings, Driver, Jordyzzz, Jones, Swain, Patrick Williams, Jason Chery, Chastin West, Shawn Gore, Charles Dillon
TE- Finley, Havner, Quarless, Donald Lee, Crabtree
OT- Clifton, Tauscher, Bulaga, Newhouse, Giacomini, Barbre
OG- Sitton, Colledge, Spitz, TJ Lang (also OT)
C- Scott Wells, Evan Dietrich-Smith

DE- Jenkins, Neal, Harrell, Jarius Wynn, CJ Wilson
NT/DT- Raji, Pickett, Toribio, Talley
OLB- Matthews, Jones, Poppinga, Zombo!, Obiozor
ILB- Barnett, Chillar, Hawk, Bishop, Francois
CB- Woodson, Harris (hurt), Tramon Williams, Shields, Underwood, Pat Lee, Jarrett Bush
S- Collins, Burnett, Bigby (hurt), D Martin, Blackmon, Peprah, Levine

K- Crosby
P- Masthay, Bryan
LS- Goode


PACKERS
Excess Value Talent:
TE
OL
FB

Looking for:
OLB
CB

Who has depth at OLB or CB?
Who might be in need of an OL or TE or FB?

Brent
08-28-2010, 08:18 AM
espn does depth charts.

phlysac
08-28-2010, 08:57 AM
49ers (80 players)

Offense

QB – Alex Smith | David Carr | Nate Davis | Jarrett Brown

RB – Frank Gore | Brian Westbrook | Anthony Dixon | Michael Robinson

FB – Moran Norris | Jehuu Caulcrick | Brit Miller

WR – Michael Crabtree | Josh Morgan | Ted Ginn | Kyle Williams | Dominique Zeigler | Jason Hill | Bobby Guillory |
........ Kevin Jurovich

TE – Vernon Davis | Delanie Walker | Nate Byham | Tony Curtis | Joe Jon Finley

OT – Joe Staley | Anthony Davis | Alex Boone | Barry Sims | Matt Kopa

OG – Mike Iupati | Chilo Rachal | Adam Snyder (T/C) | Tony Wragge (C) | Brian de la Puenta

C – Eric Heitmann | David Baas (G) | Cody Wallace


Defense

DE – Justin Smith | Isaac Sopoaga (NT) | Ray McDonald | Demetric Evans | Khalif Mitchell (NT) | Derek Walker |
....... Will Tukuafu

NT – Aubrayo Franklin | Ricky Jean Francois (DE)

OLB – Manny Lawson | Parys Haralson | Ahmad Brooks | Travis LaBoy | Diyral Briggs | Bruce Davis

ILB – Patrick Willis | Takeo Spikes | Matt Wilhelm | NaVorro Bowman | Keaton Kristick | Mike Balogun

CB – Nate Clements | Shawntae Spencer | Tarell Brown | Karl Paymah | Phillip Adams | Will James |
...... Tramaine Brock

S – Dashon Goldson | Michael Lewis | Reggie Smith | Taylor Mays | Curtis Taylor | Chris Maragos


Special Teams

K – Joe Nedney | Shane Andrus
P – Andy Lee
LS - Brian Jennings


Injured Reserve

ILB - Scott McKillop
OLB - Martail Burnett

phlysac
08-28-2010, 09:08 AM
Looking for:
Who has depth at OLB or CB?


If the 49ers don't keep 5 OLB's they will have to waive Travis LaBoy or Diyral Briggs, both have looked great this preseason. If they keep 4 like last season, both will be available.

bigbluedefense
08-28-2010, 09:32 AM
If the 49ers don't keep 5 OLB's they will have to waive Travis LaBoy or Diyral Briggs, both have looked great this preseason. If they keep 4 like last season, both will be available.

Why isn't Ahmad Brooks getting more playing time at OLB? I saw 2 49er preseason games, and I never noticed him out there.

Briggs is getting a lot more action than Brooks, which is interesting bc Brooks flashed a ton of potential outside with the limited snaps he had last year.

J-Mike88
08-28-2010, 09:42 AM
If the 49ers don't keep 5 OLB's they will have to waive Travis LaBoy or Diyral Briggs, both have looked great this preseason. If they keep 4 like last season, both will be available.
Although I'd prefer to trade with an AFC team, you might have something there.

How do you feel about your depth at OL, and behind Vernon Davis?
Do you guys use a FB much, and how good is Norris, and the backup FBs?

Thanks for the help fellas. This is what I'm looking for. Let's find some trade partners for each other so good guys don't have to get cut.

phlysac
08-28-2010, 09:56 AM
Why isn't Ahmad Brooks getting more playing time at OLB? I saw 2 49er preseason games, and I never noticed him out there.

Briggs is getting a lot more action than Brooks, which is interesting bc Brooks flashed a ton of potential outside with the limited snaps he had last year.

Ahmad Brooks is currently the teams #3 OLB. He suffered a lacerated kidney early in preseason and won't play until the regular season.


How do you feel about your depth at OL

Happy with it. Only concern is consistency at RG (Rachal/Snyder). But there is a decent vet as depth at every spot on the line. It is possible that either Alex Boone or Barry Sims will not make the Final-53.

Depth: David Baas can start at G or C. Tony Wragge can backup at G oor C. Adam Snyder can backup at all 5 positions. Alex Boone and Barry Sims can backup both Tackle positions.


and behind Vernon Davis?

I feel that Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker and Nate Byham are one of the best TE trios in the NFL.


Do you guys use a FB much, and how good is Norris, and the backup FBs?

Fullback use is becoming limited. Norris is you stereotypical straight-ahead blocking back. Brit Miller is very popular amongst the fan base because of his work in the 2009 preseason. Jehuu Caulcrick appears to be the teams #2 FB. Because both Delanie Walker and Nate Byham both often play Jimmy Raye's "F-Back" position it seems likely the 49ers will only keep Norris.

wicket
08-28-2010, 10:09 AM
Who has depth at OLB or CB?


Patrick Robinson for BJ Raji straight up?

J-Mike88
08-28-2010, 10:56 AM
Patrick Robinson for BJ Raji straight up?
I saw Robinson last night, thought it was a bulked up and faster Mike McKenzie!
Same #34 and same Predator dreadlocks.

Is McKenzie unemployed again?
Maybe he'd upgrade Pat Lee & Brandon Underwood.

umphrey
08-28-2010, 12:11 PM
We aren't going to add any corners at this point. We wouldn't waste so much playing time and coaching time on Underwood and Lee to cut them now, especially this close to the season.

I could see us adding an OLB, but maybe Zombo did enough in the preseason where the coaches won't want to cut him.

Bengals78
08-28-2010, 12:13 PM
If the 49ers don't keep 5 OLB's they will have to waive Travis LaBoy or Diyral Briggs, both have looked great this preseason. If they keep 4 like last season, both will be available.

You cut Diyral I'll cut you!!!

phlysac
08-28-2010, 02:37 PM
You cut Diyral I'll cut you!!!

They don't want to lose him. He spent most of last season on the Practice Squad so they obviously like him. The problem is, I don't think he'd clear waivers this time around.

I prefer Briggs to LaBoy and think they'll keep five.

Scotty D
08-28-2010, 02:45 PM
QB Matthew Stafford - Shaun Hill - Drew Stanton
RB Jahvid Best -Kevin Smith -Maurice Morris -DeDe Dorsey -Aaron Brown
FB Jerome Felton -Jake Nordin
TE Tony Scheffler -Brandon Pettigrew -Dan Gronkowski -Will Heller
WR Calvin Johnson -Nate Burleson -Bryant Johnson -Derrick Williams -Tim Toone -Dennis Northcutt -Eric Fowler -Brian Clark -Michael Moore
OT Jeff Backus -Jon Jansen -Gosder Cherilous -Jason Fox -Corey Hilliard -Cliff Louis -Tyler Polumbus
OG Stephen Peterman -Rob Sims -Noah Franklin -Manny Ramirez
C Dominic Raiola -Dan Gerberry -Dylan Gandy
DE Kyle Vanden Bosch -Cliff Avril -Turk McBride -Lawrence Jackson -Willie Young -Jaron Baston -Chima Ihekwoaba
DT Ndamukong Suh -Corey Williams -Sammie Lee Hill -Andre Fluellen -Robert Callaway -Landon Cohen
LB Julian Peterson -DeAndre Levy -Zack Follett -Caleb Campbell -Isaiah Ekejiuba -Ashlee Palmer -Vinny Ciurciu -Landon Johnson -Korey Bosworth
Lee Campbell
CB Dre Bly -Jonathan Wade -Chris Houston -Eric King -Aaron Berry -Paul Pratt
TJ Rushing -Jack Williams
S Louis Delmas/Randy Phillips/Amari Spievey/CC Brown/Dante Wesley/Ko Simpson/John Wendling
K Steve Hauschka - Jason Hanson
P
Nick Harris
LS
Don Mulbach

wicket
08-28-2010, 02:48 PM
I saw Robinson last night, thought it was a bulked up and faster Mike McKenzie!
Same #34 and same Predator dreadlocks.

Is McKenzie unemployed again?
Maybe he'd upgrade Pat Lee & Brandon Underwood.

yeah mckenzie is unemployed but probably injured.

Robinson was terrible yesterday (again), he has the physical ability but he has no clue whatsoever how to play the game it seems.

phlysac
08-28-2010, 02:49 PM
DT Ndamukong Suh -Corey Williams -Sammie Lee Hill -Andre Fluellen -Robert Callaway -Landon Cohen


Joe Cohen?

I thought he looked decent in relief thus far this preseason. What is the word in Lion-Country?

Scotty D
08-28-2010, 02:50 PM
Joe Cohen?

I thought he looked decent in relief thus far this preseason. What is the word in Lion-Country?

Nope, Landon. Maybe they are brothers? Joe was actually on the roster last year and started some games.

phlysac
08-28-2010, 03:05 PM
Nope, Landon. Maybe they are brothers? Joe was actually on the roster last year and started some games.

I see that Joe Cohen injured his knee in practice on August 8 and placed on IR on the 9th. I mistakenly assumed it was him when I saw parts of Lions games this preseaason.

Mr. Goosemahn
08-28-2010, 03:18 PM
From what I've gathered, the Steelers 53 man roster will wind up looking something like this:

QB
1. Ben Roethlisberger
2. Byron Leftwich
3. Dennis Dixon
(Batch is cut after suspension is over)

RB
1. Rashard Mendenhall
2. Isaac Redman
3. Mewelde Moore
(I still hope Dwyer makes it, but many people say he's going to practice squad)

FB
1. David Johnson

WR
1. Hines Ward
2. Mike Wallace
3. Antwan Randle El
4. Emmanuel Sanders
5. Arnaz Battle
6. Antonio Brown

TE
1. Heath Miller
2. Matt Spaeth

LT
1. Max Starks
2. Tony Hills

LG
1. Chris Kemoeatu
2. Ramon Foster

C
1. Maurkice Pouncey
2. Doug Legursky

RG
1. Trai Essex
2. Doug Legursky

RT
1. Flozell Adams
2. Jonathan Scott

---

LE
1. Aaron Smith
2. Ziggy Hood
3. Doug Worthington

NT
1. Casey Hampton
2. Chris Hoke

RE
1. Brett Keisel
2. Nick Eason

LOLB
1. LaMarr Woodley
2. Thaddeus Gibson

ROLB
1. James Harrison
2. Jason Worilds

ILB (2 starters at once)
1. James Farrior
2. Lawrence Timmons
3. Larry Foote
4. Keyaron Fox
5. Stevenson Sylvester

CB
1. Ike Taylor
2. Bryant McFadden
3. Keenan Lewis
4. William Gai
5. Joe Burnett
6. Crezdon Butler

FS
1. Ryan Clark
2. Will Allen

SS
1. Troy Polamalu
2. Ryan Mundy

P
Daniel Sepulveda

K
Jeff Reed

LS
Greg Warren

KR/PR
Antonio Brown

Pat Sims 90
08-28-2010, 03:33 PM
Cincinnati
This is right from the Bengal Website

QB|Carson Palmer|J.T. O'Sullivan|Jordan Palmer
FB|Fui Vakapuna|Brian Leonard|Joe Tronzo|Dan Skuta
RB|Cedric Benson|Bernard Scott|Brian Leonard|Cedric Peermen|James Johnson
WR1|Chad Ochocinco|Jerome Simpson|Matt Jones|Maurice Purify|Dezmon Briscoe
WR2|Antonio Bryant|Terrell Owens|Andre Caldwell|Quan Cosby|Jordan Shipley
RT|Dennis Roland|Andre Smith|Chris Rodgers
RG|Bobbie Williams|Isaac Sowells
C|Kyle Cook|Reggie Stephens
LG|Nate Livings|Evan Mathis|Otis Hudson
LT|Andre Whitworth|Anthony Collins|Gabriel Manns
TE|Jermaine Gresham|Reggie Kelly|Daniel Coats|Chase Coffman|Darius Hill|Clark Harris

SS|Roy Williams|Chinedum Ndukwe|Kyries Hebert|Jeremy Miles
FS|Chris Crocker|Gibril Wilson|Rico Murray|Tom Nelson|Marvin White
LDE|Robert Geathers|Jonathan Fanene
LDT|Domata Peko|Orien Harris|Geno Atkins
RDT|Tank Johnson|Pat Sims|Clinton McDonald
RDE|Antwan Odom|Frostee Rucker|Carlos Dunlap
OLB1|Rey Maualuga|Michael Johnson|Dan Skuta|Rashad Jeanty
OLB2|Keith Rivers|Brandon Johnson|Vincent Rey
MLB|Dhani Jones|Abdul Hodge|Roddrick Muckelroy
RCB|Leon Hall|Morgen Trent|David Jones|Johnny Sears
LCB|Johnathan Joseph|Adam Jones|Brandon Ghee

K|Mike Nugent|Dave Rayner
P|Kevin Huber
H|Kevin Huber|Jordan Shipley|J.T. O'Sullivan
LS|Clark Harris|Mike Windt|Dan Skuta
KR|Bernard Scott|Andre Caldwell|Quan Crosby|Jordan Shipley
PR|Quan Crosby|Adam Jones|Jordan Shipley

J-Mike88
08-28-2010, 03:35 PM
LOLB
1. LaMarr Woodley
2. Thaddeus Gibson

ROLB
1. James Harrison
2. Jason Worilds
How have Thaddeus & All-Worilds looked so far?
Those were 2 guys I had on my short list of guys I wanted us to draft, as I don't have 100% faith in our other OLBs after Matthews.

I can't believe you guys, with Harrison and Woodley arleady, took both guys. I respect that, think that we needed more help there than you guys did.

J-Mike88
08-28-2010, 04:05 PM
espn does depth charts.
Is this correct Ravens fans?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/depth/_/name/bal/formation/3-4-defense

SaintsMan
08-28-2010, 05:12 PM
yeah mckenzie is unemployed but probably injured.

Robinson was terrible yesterday (again), he has the physical ability but he has no clue whatsoever how to play the game it seems.

Come on, he broke up a few passes last night and you can see that Rob has a ton of talent. Also, it's only preseason and he's a fricken rookie CB.

wicket
08-28-2010, 05:26 PM
Come on, he broke up a few passes last night and you can see that Rob has a ton of talent. Also, it's only preseason and he's a fricken rookie CB.

even when he made plays he was out of position, really check it again, he wasnt as bad as in week 2 but still pretty terrible

fenikz
08-29-2010, 05:16 AM
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QB Matt Leinart - Derek Anderson - John Skelton - Max Hall
RB Tim Hightower - Beanie Wells - Jason Wright - LaRod Stephens-Howling
FB Reagan Mauia
WR Larry Fitzgerald - Steve Breaston - Early Doucet - Stephen Williams - Andre Roberts
TE Ben Patrick - Anthony Becht - Jim Dray
LT Kevi Brown - Jeremy Bridges
LG Alan Faneca - Rex Hadnot
C Lyle Siendline - Rex Hadnot
RG Reggie Wells - Duece Latui
RT Brandon Keith - Herman Johnson

RDE Darnell Dockett - Alan Branch
NT Dan Williams - Gabe Watson
LDE Calais Campbell - Kenny Iwebema
OLB Jerry Porter - Cody Brown
ILB Paris Lennon - Pago Togafau
ILB Daryl Washington - Monty Biesel
OLB Clark Haggans - Will Davis - Stevie Baggs
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - Mike Adams
FS Kerry Rhodes - Rashad Johnson
SS Adrian Wilson - Matt Ware
CB Greg Toler - Marshay Green - Justin Miller
P Ben Graham
K Jay Feely
LS Mike Leach

KR LaRod Stephens-Howling
PR Andre Roberts

PUP: Gerald Hayes, O'Brien Schofield
Practice Squad: A.J. Jefferson, Max Komar, Alfonso Smith, Casey Knips, Jorrick Calvin

J-Mike88
08-29-2010, 09:32 AM
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QB Matt Leinart - Derek Anderson - John Skelton - Max Hall
I heard the love from Adam Schefter this week towards both John Red Skelton and Max Hall.

But do you expect the Cards to keep both those guys?
Will they cut Anderson if Leinart is given the #1 spot?
If Leinart is beaten out, what do they do with him?

J-Mike88
09-01-2010, 11:17 PM
Big cut downs are coming soon.

Anyone who's plugged into their team, can you list what position you have some extra depth at, and what position you still could use some upgrade?

Let's see if we can find and match some trade partners. There are always a few deals before cutdown day. Some guys are too good to get cut and can help someone else shore up a weakness in exchange.

For my Packers, IMO:

Deep: TE, FB, OG
ISO: CB, OLB, S maybe

J-Mike88
09-03-2010, 09:11 AM
What positions do your teams face some very tough cuts?
Who needs a decent OG/OT?
Or a good TE?

We've received calls about Jason Spitz and Evan Dietrich-Smith, two guys who can play OG & C. Spitz has started quite a few games for us, and he only has I think 4 years under his belt.

We need another OLB and/or CB. Willing to part with the above mentioned, plus I will throw in our 2008 2nd round pick, CB Pat Lee from Auburn, who I never understood why was chosen there. One year starting with nothing special there, in the SEC where they mostly run the ball.... at least Big 12 DBs got tons of experience defending the pass.

gpngc
09-03-2010, 11:03 AM
This roster is very fluid right now with all the rumors flying around...

Projected 53-man roster

QB: Matt Hasselbeck, Charlie Whitehurst, J.P. Losman
RB: Justin Forsett, Leon Washington, Julius Jones
FB: Owen Schmitt, Quinton Ganther
WR1: T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Ben Obomanu
WR2: Deion Branch, Golden Tate
WR3: Mike Williams, Deon Butler
TE: John Carlson, Chris Baker, Anthony McCoy
LT: Russell Okung, Ray Willis
LG: Mike Gibson, Ben Hamilton, Mansfield Wrotto
C: Chris Spencer, Steve Vallos
RG: Max Unger
RT: Sean Locklear

DE: Chris Clemons, Dexter Davis, E.J. Wilson
DT: Brandon Mebane, Craig Terrill, Kevin Vickerson
DT: Colin Cole, Kentwan Balmer
DE: Red Bryant, Nick Reed
OLB: Aaron Curry, Will Herring
MLB: Lofa Tatupu
OLB: David Hawthorne, LeRoy Hill, Tyjuan Hagler
CB: Marcus Trufant, Roy Lewis
FS: Earl Thomas, Jordan Babineaux
SS: Lawyer Milloy, Kam Chancellor
CB: Kelly Jennings, Walter Thurmond III

K: Olindo Mare
P: Jon Ryan
LS: Clint Gresham

Possible cuts
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR Deion Branch
RB Julius Jones

On the bubble
LB Matt McCoy
DT Quinn Pitcock
S Jamar Adams
WR Brandon Jones
WR Ruvell Martin
TE Cameron Morrah
RB Louis Rankin

Possible additions
WR Vincent Jackson
QB Matt Leinart

Practice Squad Candidates
C Jeff Byers
CB Marcus Brown
DT DeMarcus Granger
WR Mike Hass
FB Jameson Konz
FS Will Harris
CB Josh Pinkard
LB Joe Pawalek
LB Anthony Heygood
DT Rob Rose

fenikz
09-03-2010, 02:55 PM
I heard the love from Adam Schefter this week towards both John Red Skelton and Max Hall.

But do you expect the Cards to keep both those guys?
Will they cut Anderson if Leinart is given the #1 spot?
If Leinart is beaten out, what do they do with him?

If Leinart won then Anderson would of stayed on as backup, but since Anderson won I expect that Leianrt will be cut or traded and that Hall will become the #2

phlysac
09-04-2010, 09:53 AM
49ers 53

Offense

QB – Alex Smith | David Carr | Nate Davis

RB – Frank Gore | Brian Westbrook | Anthony Dixon

FB – Moran Norris

WR – Michael Crabtree | Josh Morgan | Ted Ginn | Kyle Williams | Dominique Zeigler

TE – Vernon Davis | Delanie Walker | Nate Byham | Tony Curtis | Joe Jon Finley

OT – Joe Staley | Anthony Davis | Alex Boone | Barry Sims

OG – Mike Iupati | Chilo Rachal | Adam Snyder (T/C) | Tony Wragge (C)

C – Eric Heitmann | David Baas (G)


Defense

DE – Justin Smith | Isaac Sopoaga (NT) | Ray McDonald | Demetric Evans

NT – Aubrayo Franklin | Ricky Jean Francois (DE)

OLB – Manny Lawson | Parys Haralson | Ahmad Brooks | Travis LaBoy | Diyral Briggs

ILB – Patrick Willis | Takeo Spikes | NaVorro Bowman

CB – Nate Clements | Shawntae Spencer | Tarell Brown | Phillip Adams | Will James | Tramaine Brock

S – Dashon Goldson | Michael Lewis | Reggie Smith | Taylor Mays | Curtis Taylor


Special Teams

K – Joe Nedney
P – Andy Lee
LS - Brian Jennings


Injured Reserve

ILB - Scott McKillop
OLB - Martail Burnett


Cuts

QB - Jarrett Brown
RB - Michael Robinson
FB - Jehuu Caulcrick
FB - Brit Miller
WR - Jason Hill
WR - Bobby Guillory
WR - Kevin Jurovich
OT - Matt Kopa
OG - Brian de la Puenta
C - Cody Wallace
DE/NT - Khalif Mitchell
DE - Derek Walker
DE - Will Tukuafu
OLB - Bruce Davis
ILB - Matt Wilhelm
ILB - Keaton Kristick
ILB - Mike Balogun
CB - Karl Paymah
S - Chris Maragos
K - Shane Andrus