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mellojello
08-29-2010, 07:17 PM
Here are the top candidates. I'm going to periodically move guys up or down based on your feedback:

Jahvid Best
LeSean McCoy
Beanie Wells
Knowshon Moreno
Shonn Greene
Arian Foster
Ryan Mathews
CJ Spiller
Dexter McCluster
Bernard Scott
Montario Hardesty
Toby Gerhart
Montario Hardesty
Anthony Dixon
Ben Tate
Chris Ivory

Despite limited acition in three preseason games, my money is on Jahvid Best. I'm convinced his game transitions very well to the NFL, unlike many college studs that fizzle out at the next level for various reasons. He's the best all-around RB imo and with the exception of Spiller, nobody comes close to his explosiveness. *** Note*** I hope this thread doesn't casue anyone any "angst." Also, no thread craping. If you don't like this topic, please move on to the next one.

Hurricanes25
08-29-2010, 07:24 PM
It's way too early for this. How can we pick a player who hasn't played in a regular season game?

tjsunstein
08-29-2010, 07:29 PM
Just to clarify from the previous thread, no where did I claim that the guys I listed were better. Just pointing out that it was quite a talented group to be calling Best, well, the best when he's done absolutely nothing in a regular season game was crazy. So before Brodeur or others go ahead and changes the topic instead of defending why Best tops the rest using some logic instead of blatant homerism, I'll leave it at that.

Best wasn't the highest pick of the group meaning he clearly wasn't seen as the top RB.
He didn't have the best college career, either.
I guess what he has right now over most of the other guys is speed, and oppurtunity which doesn't make him better. See DHB.

Don Vito
08-29-2010, 07:33 PM
It's way too early for this. How can we pick a player who hasn't played in a regular season game?

True.






















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niel89
08-29-2010, 07:35 PM
I find the thread title to be bias. Who is the "Best" RB? I see your tricks.


But really, these guys haven't even played yet. Come back in a few years or at least one year..

tjsunstein
08-29-2010, 07:35 PM
An argument can be made against each and every one of these guys. Define what you mean by 'Best' RB?

Who's the most talented? Who will have a better year? Career?

Very unfair question when half of the backs haven't played in any game of importance.

Hurricanes25
08-29-2010, 07:35 PM
I also find it funny that you capitalized "B" in best in the thread title. Very clever............

WE GET IT, YOU LIKE JAHVID BEST.

Bucs_Rule
08-29-2010, 07:36 PM
I will only look at last year's crop. Beanie Wells. The guy runs really hard. It is no comparison when he is in the game then Hightower. A lot of that is hightower, but it is so unusual to have that big of an upgrade.

The others haven't shown me much. It is still early though.

mellojello
08-29-2010, 07:54 PM
I also find it funny that you capitalized "B" in best in the thread title. Very clever............

WE GET IT, YOU LIKE JAHVID BEST.I confess, I'm a Cal homer & Jahvid Best fan. That doesn't change the fact that he's a "baller," a term I don't throw around loosely. Seeing is believing for most of us, so I get it that a lot of people will disagree with me. That's great. I want to hear who's as good, or better because believe me, I am taking it into consideration when I do my fantasy football draft. I want to know who's the next up and coming stud. If you disagree, join the debate and just tell us who's better and why.

VernonLawson89
08-29-2010, 08:05 PM
Anthony Dixon ofcourse..

General Zod
08-29-2010, 09:43 PM
Why with this thread again.....

Shiver
08-29-2010, 09:45 PM
"Best" RB, eh?


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saintsfan912
08-29-2010, 09:51 PM
Chris Ivory

Borat
08-29-2010, 10:03 PM
Mellojello is the Best at misusing quotation marks.

SeanTaylorRIP
08-29-2010, 10:16 PM
Arian Foster should be on this list.

ThePudge
08-29-2010, 10:31 PM
Beanie Wells or C.J. Spiller. They were my two highest graded backs in 09' & 10' respectively and they both will receive plenty opportunity to prove themselves/succeed.

Jahvid could be a good one; but honestly, how long do you think he lasts in this league carrying a large part of the load? I'm really not sold on his durability or his ability to put on weight without losing quickness/speed. I really like him for Detroit and I like him to give the team the spark they needed in the running game, but I'd be a little surprised to see him play in this league (effectively) more than 6 years or so. I think he'll be nicked up often.

yourfavestoner
08-29-2010, 10:44 PM
I think Beanie Wells ends up having the best season this year.

Scotty D
08-29-2010, 11:19 PM
Beanie Wells or C.J. Spiller. They were my two highest graded backs in 09' & 10' respectively and they both will receive plenty opportunity to prove themselves/succeed.

Jahvid could be a good one; but honestly, how long do you think he lasts in this league carrying a large part of the load? I'm really not sold on his durability or his ability to put on weight without losing quickness/speed. I really like him for Detroit and I like him to give the team the spark they needed in the running game, but I'd be a little surprised to see him play in this league (effectively) more than 6 years or so. I think he'll be nicked up often.

Definitely the major question. In the last preseason game he had 1 rush for 51 yards and 1 rec for 10 yards. From the way Schwartz has been handling him in the preseason I don't think he will be run in to the ground. I know he got a concussion from a nasty leap but has he had concerns besides that? I lean more towards a freak injury. I'm not worried about his size or anything.

ThePudge
08-30-2010, 12:09 AM
I love how Detroit is already monitoring his touches. I'm worried about his knees primarily. I believe he suffered very minor injuries there and I'm concerned it may just get worse. I just don't know that this size back can handle the wear & tear of a full-time job at Running Back. It's a gut feeling, it's a concern of mine, and I can only hope that Best & the Detroit organization prove me wrong. I don't see any way Best can get 300 touches at any time in his career, you need to be real careful with the guy. I think he could be a great back, but Detroit would be wise to go out and draft him a partner in that backfield (if Kevin Smith doesn't improve.) Just kind of a scary player in that regard.

Mostly though, I'm not afraid of his injury history at all. I don't expect recurring concussion issues, though that could be a concern for some. I'm just worried about what the wear & tear of a big role in the NFL could do to him early in his career.

A Perfect Score
08-30-2010, 12:10 AM
For this upcoming season? Beanie Wells. Hes a monster and he's gunna have a huge year. For their career? I've been a huge CJ Spiller fan throughout the entire process, and I see no reason to change that now. You think Best is gunna be electric? Just watch Spiller. Even in Buffalo, Im betting Spiller becomes one hell of a RB.

fenikz
08-30-2010, 12:10 AM
This year i'll go with Ryan Mathews, over their careers I'll take Beanie Wells

mellojello
08-30-2010, 12:12 AM
Why with this thread again.....Sorry for the redundancy. The last one was locked for some reason, but it's my understanding that it may have projected "angst."

nepg
08-30-2010, 12:23 AM
You know, I'll take McCluster for the Kevin Faulk factor. Sure, Edge and Ricky were amazing in their primes, but over the long-haul, Kevin Faulk has some claim to the best RB of 1999, imo.

McCluster should fill that same role, and has less talented players opposing him in this discussion.

vidae
08-30-2010, 12:38 AM
I really hope we can have a third thread talking about how great a rookie who hasn't played in a regular season is going to be.

Saints-Tigers
08-30-2010, 12:40 AM
You know, I'll take McCluster for the Kevin Faulk factor. Sure, Edge and Ricky were amazing in their primes, but over the long-haul, Kevin Faulk has some claim to the best RB of 1999, imo.

McCluster should fill that same role, and has less talented players opposing him in this discussion.

Lol, i love Faulk, but over Edge? lol.

A Perfect Score
08-30-2010, 12:41 AM
Lol, i love Faulk, but over Edge? lol.

Edge? What about over Ricky...Ricky Williams in his prime is one of the best RBs Ive ever seen play. If he wasn't so damn ridiculous (Don't get me wrong, I love him...but the **** he pulled was ridiculous), I think we would be talking about one of the best ever in Ricky.

yourfavestoner
08-30-2010, 01:28 AM
Edge? What about over Ricky...Ricky Williams in his prime is one of the best RBs Ive ever seen play. If he wasn't so damn ridiculous (Don't get me wrong, I love him...but the **** he pulled was ridiculous), I think we would be talking about one of the best ever in Ricky.

On the other hand, if he wouldn't have taken time off, he probably only would have lasted another season or two the way Miami was just running him into the ground. You could already see the fatigue setting in during the year he set the carries record (2003 I think).

Also, I don't think Edge gets enough credit for how he was able to reinvent himself in the middle of his career. He was drafted as a speedy, all-purpose back. Once his knee got torn up and he lost most of his speed, he was able to turn himself into a damn good grinder. I think he led the league in carries of 5-10 yards multiple years in a row.

Both guys had fantastic careers.

NotRickJames
08-30-2010, 01:58 AM
Shonn Green and Arian Foster are my top two guys. Foster will really turn some heads this season, and I think he'll make it clear that he's a better player than Beanie or Moreno.

As for the future, I love Spiller and Dwyer as the best backs from 2010 draft. It may be years before Dywer gets a chance to really shine, but I think he'll turn out better than Mathews.

Jahvid Best could be a huge gamebreaker, but I'm not convinced he'll ever be able to take a big load. Also, aren't the Chiefs using McCluster as a receiver primarily?

Paranoidmoonduck
08-30-2010, 02:15 AM
So...apparently Mathews is crazy underrated. Out of all those guys, he's my favorite (although my main reason for picking him over Spiller is their respective situations).

San Diego Chicken
08-30-2010, 03:38 AM
Mathews has looked really great and consistent so far. His acceleration is superb, he can really turn the corner on outside runs in a flash.

wicket
08-30-2010, 04:10 AM
chris ivory is the obvious pick

Saints-Tigers
08-30-2010, 05:34 AM
Edge? What about over Ricky...Ricky Williams in his prime is one of the best RBs Ive ever seen play. If he wasn't so damn ridiculous (Don't get me wrong, I love him...but the **** he pulled was ridiculous), I think we would be talking about one of the best ever in Ricky.


Well, I could see teh argument over Ricky. Not that Faulk was even close to as good, but Ricky was very mentally weak and couldn't put it together for the Saints, finally got it together, and then just up and quit. Faulk has at least been a steady weapon.

I wouldn't take Faulk over even two years of Miami Ricky though.

Damn Ricky was so good when he wanted to be =/

mellojello
09-13-2010, 01:56 PM
Arian Foster should be on this list.Very, very nice call...

Splat
09-13-2010, 02:02 PM
Also, aren't the Chiefs using McCluster as a receiver primarily?

He did most of his work in OTA's/Camp at WR but then in the preseason he spent more time at RB so it's wait and see really.

mellojello
09-19-2010, 07:25 PM
...Just pointing out that it was quite a talented group to be calling Best, well, the best when he's done absolutely nothing in a regular season game was crazy...

Best wasn't the highest pick of the group meaning he clearly wasn't seen as the top RB.
He didn't have the best college career, either.
I guess what he has right now over most of the other guys is speed, and oppurtunity which doesn't make him better. See DHB.

I know, I'm a crazy mofo that doen't know what I'm talking about, so just ignore me!

Also, I don't care too much where guys are picked in the draft - that's someone else's opinion. I look at players, highlights, their skills, etc. and come up with my own opinion.

katnip
09-19-2010, 07:29 PM
Based on what I've seen so far (college and pro), Jahvid Best or CJ Spiller. I'd say Beanie Wells is the most physically talented overall though - size, speed, etc. I just don't like the fact he gets injured alot to me for a a back of his caliber IMO.

Werowance
09-19-2010, 07:56 PM
How about the guy who just rushed for 120 and 3 TDs today? LeSean McCoy. I'm certainly not trying to say he is the best but he deserves a mention especially if guys like Ivory, Tate, Dixon, Hardesty, Gerhart, Scott and McCluster are getting nods.

Also consider that McCoy has been much more effective than CJ Spiller, Ryan Matthews and on par with Best, Wells (rookie season), Moreno (again, rookie season), Shonn Greene and Arian Foster is a one game wonder.

I'd rank them right now as:
1. Jahvid Best
2. Beanie Wells
3. LeSean McCoy
4. Knowshon Moreno
5. Greene/Foster
-Foster is a one game wonder right now, he averaged 3.6 yards a carry in his follow up effort and Greene is just a playoff wonder, he flashed big time against Oakland and rushed for over 300 yards in the playoffs but outside of those games he has 0 rushing touchdowns, he has only scored in 3 games he has played in.

umphrey
09-19-2010, 08:01 PM
I think Greene and Moreno are best built to be high carry backs with top total career yards. I'll take Best for my team every Sunday though. CJ Spiller #2. Beanie Wells will only be remembered for his draft position in a few years.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-19-2010, 08:07 PM
I think Foster can be a perennial 1,000 yard rusher for the Texans especially with their passing game. He is the perfect one cut and go rusher. He has power and pretty good speed. He's also ok in the pass game, all around such a solid runner and in the perfect situation .