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remix 6
03-18-2007, 05:04 PM
This kid "SmashMouth" or w.e keeps insisting Patriots will/should draft Leonard because he can be our featured back and be a starter that we need. Heres what hes saying

-Leonard is as fast and quick as Maroney
-Leonard is bigger and stronger than Maroney
-Says Maroney is not a featured back and we need someone who can start


Can someone please help me get it through his head that Maroney faster and quicker on the field than Leonard and that Maroney will be fine as a featured back.

Need some opinions please. Thanks

HoopsDemon12
03-18-2007, 05:11 PM
nah nah leonard will be fine in his own right but i mean come on maurony(seriouslly had a brain fart and cant rememeber how to spell his name) is gonan be a beast next year...and as the feature back take the order for atleast 1200 yards and 9 tds now

bigbluedefense
03-18-2007, 05:11 PM
Leonard lacks the lateral movement and hip fluidity to be a feature back. He's too stiff out there.

I like Leonard. He's from Jersey. I support my Jersey boys. But he has too many youknowwhat riders. He's a player without a position, who will probably fit best as an HBack in the 2 TE offense. I don't like him as a fulltime RB.

duckseason
03-18-2007, 05:14 PM
Wow. How moronic. I see Maroney as being one of the next great RB's. He should establish himself as one of the best in the game in the next few years, IMO. Even if you don't agree with that, it's ludicrous to say he isn't a feature back.

Flyboy
03-18-2007, 05:14 PM
I like Leonard. He's from Jersey. I support my Jersey boys. But he has too many youknowwhat riders. He's a player without a position, who will probably fit best as an HBack in the 2 TE offense. I don't like him as a fulltime RB.

He reminds me of a more athletic Cooley which isn't a bad thing at all.

Eaglez.Fan
03-18-2007, 05:18 PM
IMO the Pats should still take him, but no way will he replace Maroney.

MP123
03-18-2007, 05:20 PM
Leonard isn't a first rounder. Anyone who uses a first rounder on him will regret it.

Beans
03-18-2007, 05:22 PM
The Pats should take him, Maroney and Leonard would be the most beastly pair ever.

As would Cadillac/Leonard.

remix 6
03-18-2007, 05:25 PM
thanks guys. hope he reads this

he kept saying "Leonard is faster and quicker than Maroney..he got a better 3 cone than Lynch and Peterson etc etc"

pissed me off and hes impossible to push off the "Leonard as a featured back and better than Maroney" wagon

Splat
03-18-2007, 05:29 PM
IMO Maroney can be a featured back for sure in the NFL he could have last year if they didn't have CD.

remix 6
03-18-2007, 05:31 PM
IMO Maroney can be a featured back for sure in the NFL he could have last year if they didn't have CD.

oh thanks for reminding me

he stated: Maroney is not a feature back..he couldnt start over Dillon last year.

Splat
03-18-2007, 05:41 PM
Dillon all ready new the O and was making a lot of money and we all know CD is not the best locker room guy it would have been bad for the team if they would have sat him he would of threw a fit. That being said even not starting LM out played CD Dillion was not starting next year even if he stayed with NE the job was going to go to LM and still will.

Number 10
03-18-2007, 05:47 PM
Leonard lacks the lateral movement and hip fluidity to be a feature back. He's too stiff out there.

I like Leonard. He's from Jersey. I support my Jersey boys. But he has too many youknowwhat riders. He's a player without a position, who will probably fit best as an HBack in the 2 TE offense. I don't like him as a fulltime RB.

Thats what people said about Brandon Jacobs when he came into the NFL.

Go figure.

I still stand by my statement that the kid can be a tailback in the NFL but with that said, he is not better than Maroney.

remix 6
03-18-2007, 05:49 PM
Thats what people said about Brandon Jacobs when he came into the NFL.

Go figure.

I still stand by my statement that the kid can be a tailback in the NFL but with that said, he is not better than Maroney.

well Jacobs has this year to show something..he'll get a good bulk of carry if not most of it.

Splat
03-18-2007, 05:51 PM
I'm not sold on Brandon Jacobs.

Severe Punishment
03-18-2007, 06:22 PM
So he likes Leonard, even better than maroney...seriously what harm is this causing and why do you care what he thinks ?

remix 6
03-18-2007, 06:26 PM
So he likes Leonard, even better than maroney...seriously what harm is this causing and why do you care what he thinks ?

i could care less if he likes Leonard. thats not my problem

kid is being stupid saying Leonard is faster, quicker and stronger than Maroney and says Maroney is not a featured back and Leonard should be drafted to be the starter in New England.


if you dont have anything good to say dont say nothing Severe.

Severe Punishment
03-18-2007, 06:30 PM
There are millions of stupid posts from stupid people you can find online at any given time....just don't give yourself a stroke caring about them.
That's all I'm sayin

princefielder28
03-18-2007, 06:32 PM
Tell him he's wrong. Leonard is a threat out of the backfield but Maroney is a back that can take the load and be a very successful back in the NFL. He played unbelieveable at Minnesota and that will translate right to the NFL once he becomes the full time starter and that time is now.

duckseason
03-18-2007, 06:32 PM
So he likes Leonard, even better than maroney...seriously what harm is this causing and why do you care what he thinks ?

One of the greatest aspects of sports is the arguments. They're arguing about his favorite team. Me and my brother had fist fights over things like whether or not his 9ers intentionally allowed Candlestick to become muddy for the '94 NFC Championship against my Cowboys. It's what memories are made of.

etk
03-18-2007, 06:51 PM
Brian Leonard is not NFL starting tailback material. He can be a West Coast FB/H-back, but at RB his potential is limited to that of a Nick Goings.

luckyjackaubrey
03-18-2007, 07:12 PM
Maroney will be a great back but I like the choice of Leonard for many reasons.

#1 You need depth in the nfl. Maroney didn't make it through last year in one
piece and few do. This team likes a healty back on the field and often
chose to keep Dillon on the bench with minor dings. You gotta practice
all week to play for Bill.

#2 Maroney will be great but I still think you need to push him. Sophmore
jinx is not a well known phenomena because someone made it up. I saw
a different back after he came back from the 2 game injury hiatus. He
was tentative hitting holes and the 3rd gear was not as evident. Having
a 2nd option is a good thing. Sammy Morris is depth, k Faulk is 3rd down
back, Evans is a cult hero / special teams guy.
#3 The Patriots are a diverse offense that morphs weekly. What Maroney
does one week, Leonard will do differently the next. Their skill sets
are complimentary.
#4 I like leonard's makeup. I think he would have no problem being the 2nd
guy and would respond to Bill telling him to bust his butt for playing
time. The push would keep LM working hard. I think he needs to be
challenged.

ninerfan
03-18-2007, 07:33 PM
Maroney and vet back up will do the Pats just fine

remix 6
03-18-2007, 07:57 PM
Maroney and vet back up will do the Pats just fine

which is Sammy Morris who he says cant start incase an emergy and same with Faulk

although both have started in past and Morris did better than Brown last year filling in :\

Smooth Criminal
03-18-2007, 08:13 PM
I like Maroney alot but I do think some of his success came from the fact that they had Dillon. I think getting a guy like Leonard that can also be a weapon in the passing and running game from FB would be a great move for the Pats. They really don't have any glaring needs after signing talents at LB and WR and signing back Samual. I think adding Leonard would add another dimension to their offense and give Brady yet another weapon to use.

remix 6
03-18-2007, 08:17 PM
I like Maroney alot but I do think some of his success came from the fact that they had Dillon. I think getting a guy like Leonard that can also be a weapon in the passing and running game from FB would be a great move for the Pats. They really don't have any glaring needs after signing talents at LB and WR and signing back Samual. I think adding Leonard would add another dimension to their offense and give Brady yet another weapon to use.

the point of this thread isnt wether Patriots could use Leonard or not. Its more along the lines of your opinions on SmashMouth saying "Leonard is faster and quicker than Maroney and would be a FEATURED back Patriots need"

He doesnt think Maroney is faster/quick than Leonard and doesnt believe hes good enough to start so he wants Leonard to start at RB :\

TheChampIsHere
03-19-2007, 04:07 AM
I agree Leonard would be a good pick for the Patriots and I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if he gets taken at 28 by them, in fact I have my mock saying that they will.

I disagree that the Pats need a feature back and that Leonard is a better back than Maroney.

Im a big fan of Maroney and I think he can be a starter, but he did great in a dual HB system last year and in this day and age you dont want your backfield to be too thin. Leonard would be a real nice addition to the Pats because he can be a backup runner and he is a tough inside runner which is really the only weakness in Maroney's game (although I think hes underrated in that regard) Leonard would also fit in real well with a team like the Pats that like to use their backs in the passing game because he is a great receiver.

remix 6
03-19-2007, 03:50 PM
I agree Leonard would be a good pick for the Patriots and I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if he gets taken at 28 by them, in fact I have my mock saying that they will.

I disagree that the Pats need a feature back and that Leonard is a better back than Maroney.

Im a big fan of Maroney and I think he can be a starter, but he did great in a dual HB system last year and in this day and age you dont want your backfield to be too thin. Leonard would be a real nice addition to the Pats because he can be a backup runner and he is a tough inside runner which is really the only weakness in Maroney's game (although I think hes underrated in that regard) Leonard would also fit in real well with a team like the Pats that like to use their backs in the passing game because he is a great receiver.

Maroney's weakness isnt inside running..most of his yards came there because thats where we ran him most :\

TheChampIsHere
03-20-2007, 02:43 AM
Maroney's weakness isnt inside running..most of his yards came there because thats where we ran him most :\

you did see that I said I think hes extremely underrated in that department right? Hes not a back whos thought of as a pounder in between the tackles, but honestly I think he's a very complete back.

Shiver
03-20-2007, 02:44 AM
What if Leonard were black?

.....

Sorry, but I think, unknowingly, we all have the tendency to judge based off of that factor. Not intentionally, but it is, what it is. I personally think he would be very good in a committee R.B.B.C situation. That said; Maroney is much better than he is. To suggest otherwise is crazy, in my estimation.

TheChampIsHere
03-20-2007, 04:13 AM
What if Leonard were black?

.....

Sorry, but I think, unknowingly, we all have the tendency to judge based off of that factor. Not intentionally, but it is, what it is. I personally think he would be very good in a committee R.B.B.C situation. That said; Maroney is much better than he is. To suggest otherwise is crazy, in my estimation.

for all the talk about people being racist and not giving Leonard his props I dont know anyone, experts or fans, who still think of Leonard as a FB. In college, he weighed a lot more so at first people thought of him as a FB who would be a great receiving threat and a good runner as well, a versatile weapon. Then he lost weight and showed HB speed so now everyone has him as a HB. I mean who is not giving him his fair shake? No one is still calling him a FB. Its a bunch of nonsense honestly. Nobody acted like Hawk wasnt a phenomenal athlete last year, nobody is acting like Olsen isn't a remarkable athlete at his position. If you wanna talk unconscious racism, how about the premise that every black QB is athletic with a strong arm but cant read a defense? Thats the only place where I really see much racism/bias in evaluation in football.

I like Leonard and I dont think he is quite a feature back but I think he'd be a great back in a RBBC. He has such a great skill set that he can be a versatile weapon for a team. However, Maroney is a great pure runner and I think he has the stuff to be a top 10 back in this league now that he has a feature role.

remix 6
03-20-2007, 05:56 AM
What if Leonard were black?

.....

Sorry, but I think, unknowingly, we all have the tendency to judge based off of that factor. Not intentionally, but it is, what it is. I personally think he would be very good in a committee R.B.B.C situation. That said; Maroney is much better than he is. To suggest otherwise is crazy, in my estimation.

i can care less if hes blue. im not saying he isnt a good enough RB or starter b/c hes white. im saying hes not gonna ever beat out Maroney whos much faster/quicker and more natural at RB. Leonard is fast straightline and strong but he doesnt have enough wiggle. same can be said about a lot of black RBs coming into pros