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BeerBaron
09-02-2010, 11:53 AM
Hope Mr. Goosemahn doesn't care, but I thought we could use a new prospect of the day to talk about.

To see previously discussed prospects, click here.
Jake Locker - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2230943
Cameron Heyward - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41890
Marvin Austin - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41892
Adrian Clayborn - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41919
Anthony Castonzo - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41929
Greg Romeus - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41940
Von Miller - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2238637
Mike Pouncey - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41959
Allen Bailey - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41971
Mark Herzlich - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41993
Prince Amukamara - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42000
Gabe Carimi - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42014
Patrick Peterson - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42030
Terrance Toliver - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42042
Noel Devine - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42053
DeAndre McDaniel - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42063
A. J. Green - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42070
Jonathan Baldwin - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42075
Michael Floyd - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42089
Joseph Barksdale - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42098
Bruce Carter - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42108
Rodney Hudson - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42122
Marcus Cannon - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42132
Jerrell Powe - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42149
Kyle Rudolph - httphttp://draftcountdown.com/forum/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=47://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42196
Ryan Mallett - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42210
Christian Ponder - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42239
Evan Royster - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42240
Ryan Kerrigan - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42261
Stephen Paea - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42270
Nate Solder - http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2266518
Chris O'Dowd - http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42312


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/BeerBaron/jerrodjohnson.jpg

QB Jerrod Johnson, Texas A&M
6'4 - 243 lbs. - Senior

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Big, strong, athletic, productive, good at throwing on the run, will have 3 years of starting experience after this season....his throwing motion could use some work though it seems.

With another good year I could see him as a solid 2nd-3rd round prospect. A good consolation prize for a team that misses out on one of the big names at the top of the draft. He could have just as much upside as some of them.

Thoughts?

prock
09-02-2010, 11:56 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing Johnson to the Vikings in the second or third round.

FUNBUNCHER
09-02-2010, 12:14 PM
Archie Manning said Jerrod Johnson had 'all the tools' to be a standout QB in the NFL.

Don Vito
09-02-2010, 12:16 PM
I like him a lot, I want to watch them whenever I get the chance. He has a pretty impressive skillset.

Hurricanes25
09-02-2010, 12:52 PM
His throwing motion is a little awkward but it's not that big of a deal. Come April, he'll be challenging Ponder to be the 3rd QB taken off the board. (as long as Luck doesn't come out)

Duffman57
09-02-2010, 12:53 PM
It might just be me, but his arm doesn't look all that strong.

I like him otherwise.

619
09-02-2010, 01:11 PM
Right now I got him tabbed as a solid second rounder. That is certainly subject to change because of his elite skillset, as I need to see him polish a few things, particularly in his throwing motion and his celerity in decision-making and read progression.

Despite being a gifted athlete, he doesn't fall victim to the stereotype of other top dual-QB threats. He exhibits a good pocket presence and above average accuracy between the numbers. He's probably on my short list of most intriguing players to look out for in this college football season.

princefielder28
09-02-2010, 01:52 PM
His throwing motion is a little awkward but it's not that big of a deal. Come April, he'll be challenging Ponder to be the 3rd QB taken off the board. (as long as Luck doesn't come out)

I agree with this. Johnson's ability and upside versus Ponder's "sureness" is going to be a back-and-forth between several front offices as draft time nears...this is assuming neither player falls flat on their face this season

iBoldin
09-02-2010, 02:35 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about his throwing motion. It's a little wonky, but it's not going to put him in any danger. A few adjustments with an NFL Quarterbacks coach and he'll be fine in no time.

Really good size, a nice dual-threat quarterback with tremendous upside. I really, really like Johnson and I think he'll be a first round pick at the draft. Near the end of the first, but he's definitely skilled enough to go in the first.

Ballbright
09-02-2010, 02:50 PM
NFL Draft Monsters' Tom Melton lists him as a 4th rounder, and says his pocket poise, and throwing motion leave something to be desired...

http://nfldraftmonsters.com/scouting/scouting-report-jerrod-johnson/

BeerBaron
09-02-2010, 02:54 PM
NFL Draft Monsters' Tom Melton lists him as a 4th rounder, and says his pocket poise, and throwing motion leave something to be desired...

http://nfldraftmonsters.com/scouting/scouting-report-jerrod-johnson/

We just saw Tebow go in the first round with one of the most godawful and slow throwing motions the is....I don't think it's too big of deal if you have other parts of the package, which I think Johnson does.

JHL6719
09-02-2010, 03:15 PM
Johnson doesn't have the off the charts intangibles, cult following, or legendary leadership qualities, or national championships of Tebow though.

His arm literally looks like it's in slow motion when he throws. Stares down wide open receivers and his ball tends to float. Does throw well on the run though. I think he'll get eat up in the NFL with that delivery.

The only way to quicken his release up is for him to shorten his stride when he throws, and even then it's not going to make that much difference.

Padding his stats against bad defenses in that conference. Honestly I don't see much there other than size.

Overrated.

Ballbright
09-02-2010, 03:42 PM
We just saw Tebow go in the first round with one of the most godawful and slow throwing motions the is....I don't think it's too big of deal if you have other parts of the package, which I think Johnson does.

I think most people realize that the Tebow first round reach was largely a by product of factors not related to his playing ability.

1. Increase in national attention for whatever team drafts him (including sales)
2. Arrogance of a coach thinking he can "coach" the deficiencies out of a player (whether he can or can't remains to be seen)
3. Media hype--closely related to #1, but the media machine that drives the Tebow train helped push what should've been a third round pick into the first round.

BeerBaron
09-02-2010, 03:45 PM
Padding his stats against bad defenses in that conference..

Didn't seem to hurt Sam Bradford....

JHL6719
09-02-2010, 04:16 PM
Didn't seem to hurt Sam Bradford....


I understand that. I think taking Sam Bradford #1 overall was a mistake though.

If a QB ISN'T throwing for a gazillion yards and a gazillion TD's in that conference due to the bad defenses and spread type offenses... then something is terribly wrong.

Landry Jones came in and set the schools single game TD pass record about 20 minutes after Bradford was hurt. (I know I'm exaggerating but you get the point)

Brent
09-02-2010, 04:58 PM
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if he kicks ass this year, he will surpass my love for Stephen McGee

villagewarrior
09-04-2010, 12:45 AM
You have to love a guy with those physical tools. His throwing motion is pretty dang ugly though which leads to his ball hanging in the air. That'll be exploited in the league.

Babylon
09-04-2010, 10:50 AM
Archie Manning said Jerrod Johnson had 'all the tools' to be a standout QB in the NFL.

What does Archie Manning know about QBs?:-D

aLARGEtopHat
09-07-2010, 01:53 AM
Looks like I should of stayed friends with him through HS... Could of been the next Keak.

Mr. Offseason
09-07-2010, 09:09 AM
Johnson has good athletic ability and good arm strength, but like Jacory Harris a lot of his passes float and hang in the air longer than you would like to see. This is strange for Johnson because I definitely think he has the arm to put more zip on his throws, yet he doesn't.

He also doesn't have very good footwork and he won't step into his throws, or he will throw off of his back foot, which I think impacts the zip on his throws and on the accuracy of his passes at times.

I don't think his throwing motion dooms him as a prospect, but it is definitely an issue in my opinion. Who knows how well you can correct those things. It's different for every QB. Personally though, I think Tebow was an exception to the "changing the release" rule. Andre Woodson tried something similar but it didn't work and he ended up in the 6th round and was eventually cut from the Giants roster.

Brent
09-14-2010, 08:21 PM
Johnson has good athletic ability and good arm strength, but like Jacory Harris a lot of his passes float and hang in the air longer than you would like to see. This is strange for Johnson because I definitely think he has the arm to put more zip on his throws, yet he doesn't.

He also doesn't have very good footwork and he won't step into his throws, or he will throw off of his back foot, which I think impacts the zip on his throws and on the accuracy of his passes at times.

I don't think his throwing motion dooms him as a prospect, but it is definitely an issue in my opinion. Who knows how well you can correct those things. It's different for every QB. Personally though, I think Tebow was an exception to the "changing the release" rule. Andre Woodson tried something similar but it didn't work and he ended up in the 6th round and was eventually cut from the Giants roster.
In his defense, he has never had a good offensive line in college. NEVER.

Hell, this year his starting left tackle is a true freshman. He'll be running for his life, again, this year.

regoob2
09-14-2010, 08:32 PM
Ive seen him play a few times and he's never looked like an NFL QB to me. Maybe a mid-rounder at best.

jnew76
09-15-2010, 02:49 PM
I will say this, if Jerrod Johnson plays this season the way he played against Texas last year, he is a top 5 pick.

I am a huge fan of Jerrod Johnson. He is inconsistent for sure, and he tries to do too much at times, he has a funky motion, all these things are true... But I see a leader and winner with marginal talent around him. The Texas game last year was one of the best I have ever seen by a dual purpose QB. He was almost perfect in that game IMO. I think that game will give him the confidence going into this year's conference play to make some real noise in the Big XII south. Johnson best attribute is his accuracy on the run. He is definitely a pass first QB who can run, but looks to pass. He is able to create time for his receivers to get open, and then delivers accurate passes on the run. Just as impressive is his accuracy moving right or left. He is great throwing accurately across his body while moving to the left.

Johnson needs to move through his progressions more quickly, and step up into the pocket a little more. His footwork and base need work, but I think his motion is good enough for the NFL.

I saw everything come together in that Texas game last year and I wonder if Johnson is capable of maintaining that level of play throughout his senior year.

Day One Pick
09-15-2010, 05:05 PM
Johnson is on the rise and chances are will be in the mix to be selected in the first round. He is Corey Chavous's (DraftNasty.com) #1 prospect. But last year Dan LeFevour was his #1 prospect. A few years ago another A&M QB was his #1 prospect, Reggie McNeal.

RealityCheck
09-15-2010, 05:07 PM
I love Jerrod. I see him as a mix of Joe Flacco (size and strength) and Vince Young (speed).

Basically, he's the 8th wonder of the world.

And a first round pick in my next mock too.

619
09-15-2010, 05:29 PM
Johnson is on the rise and chances are will be in the mix to be selected in the first round. He is Corey Chavous's (DraftNasty.com) #1 prospect. But last year Dan LeFevour was his #1 prospect. A few years ago another A&M QB was his #1 prospect, Reggie McNeal.

He's partial to dual-QBs, I get it. I enjoy when he objectively attempts to breakdown and analyze prospects that he doesn't consider to be 'his guys'; however, his rankings are atrocious.

SenorGato
09-15-2010, 08:53 PM
He's one of those guys who someone will draft as a project QB. He's got alot of the tools and he shows some polish in his game...I like him as a 4th-5th round QB prospect.

stephenson86
09-30-2010, 08:15 PM
Jerrod Johnson excites me as a prospect, I think given a situation where he has chance to develop for 3-4 years he could be a BRILLIANT NFL QB. He has all the tools, the brains and he knows the game of football, he looks like he has a very very bright future.

ElectricEye
09-30-2010, 09:27 PM
Johnson is taking a baseball bat to his stock right now.

descendency
09-30-2010, 10:31 PM
Johnson is taking a baseball bat to his stock right now.

Might be a good idea if he learns to use one.

Grizzlegom
09-30-2010, 10:51 PM
That O-line is TERRIBLE so its hard to evaluate him since he's constantly on the run but he is definitely moving down in my rankings. I still LOVE all his tools but that delivery will need to be redone and who knows how his footwork will be when he takes a snap from center/has time to sit in the pocket (I could see him having happy feet, hardcore). At this point, he's one of the enigmas I think in that he could go early to a team that loves him and his tools or he could just plummet totally out of the draft.

ElectricEye
09-30-2010, 11:01 PM
He's a third round prospect with the summation of the mechanical issues. He's a real good athlete, has a live arm, and he's accurate when all the moving pieces move the way they're supposed to, but he's just too raw to touch in the first two rounds. The thing that bothers me the most about him is his release. It's not as tight as it should be. Doesn't repeat it well and sort of drops it at times. That's why the ball comes out wrong for him when it does.

Stockwise, he's about where McCoy was at the end of the year last year. Like his future quite a bit better though. He absolutely needs a patient team and the best coaching you can possibly get. He is, from what I've read, a high character guy though. That's defiantly a mark in his favor being the project that he is.

Miaoww
10-01-2010, 02:20 AM
Just watching the A&M vs Oklahoma St game now. Johnson has some interesting qualities, but man do I hate how his throws float.

stephenson86
10-01-2010, 03:57 AM
His OL is amongst the worst I have seen for a while.

Ozzy
10-01-2010, 12:26 PM
His OL is amongst the worst I have seen for a while.Sure they had a rough game but most of that had to do with Ugo coming off the edge and being that good. Luke Joeckel is a promising freshman tackle for them and in the future he could be a fine player and I liked what I saw out of Patrick Lewis as well. Sure as a group they struggled at times and they should be able to run the ball better than they did.

Nonetheless, his offensive line did not make Jerrod float passes and throw bad interceptions, and or fumble the ball. Yes he could have used more protection but you take the weapons and line around Jerrod, I would take them any day over the guys that Oklahoma State quarterback had.

Jerrod simply holds onto the ball too long because he thinks he can make plays and not get tackled because he is so large. Still promising player but again I would not call that line totally trash, they have one or two decent prospects that might develop, and they are young so they do still need to learn and work together as a group.

descendency
10-01-2010, 04:46 PM
Jerrod Johnson's biggest problem isn't his OL. It's how little his 'football IQ' translates to on field play.

HawkeyeFan
10-02-2010, 12:24 AM
Just watching the A&M vs Oklahoma St game now. Johnson has some interesting qualities, but man do I hate how his throws float.
Throws look unnatural, and they're a lot of ducks.