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Splat
09-07-2010, 08:50 AM
After three great seasons you had the suspension and then the injury, I believe he will only be 27 this season so will he ever return to the beast he once was?

Don Vito
09-07-2010, 09:06 AM
He was one of the most dominant players in the game at such a young age, but right now all signs point to no if you ask me. After the steroid thing surfaced all he really had were few unproductive injury riddled years, if he doesn't return to form this year I doubt he ever will. I think a change of scenery would really benefit him.

J-Mike88
09-07-2010, 09:13 AM
I don't think he will ever reach that level again.
By that, I mean leading the NFL in sacks, and he did that in 12 games.

But I think he can get back to the 10-sack a season level. But it all, IMO, depends on the health of the knee.

Smooth Criminal
09-07-2010, 09:21 AM
I don't think he'll dominate like he did early in his career, but he'll be a good player.

prock
09-07-2010, 09:25 AM
"Will Shawne Merriman ever start juicing again?" would be a better topic.

bigbluedefense
09-07-2010, 09:36 AM
If I were a GM, I'd just stay away from Maryland prospects. It's pretty damn obvious that all these guys are juicers.

And most of them flame out in the NFL. There are always 2-3 freak athletes from Maryland who post amazing numbers at the combine, then they flame out in the NFL.

I'm surprised Maryland doesn't get called out more, I think its pretty obvious they all juice over there.

prock
09-07-2010, 09:38 AM
Does Vernon juice?

J-Mike88
09-07-2010, 09:42 AM
Does Vernon juice?
I'd say he juice's something.
But I still want him scoring 12 TDs this year for my fantasy team.

Many players juice something.

Splat
09-07-2010, 09:43 AM
I apple juice some times.

bigbluedefense
09-07-2010, 09:44 AM
Its true, many players do juice. And I'm sure VD is one of them.

I just don't trust Maryland though. Way too many busts are coming out of Maryland, and they're mostly combine risers who just wow people with their athleticism, which is probably juiced athleticism anyway.

K Train
09-07-2010, 09:45 AM
i dont think vernon is doing anything illegal, his brother has the same physique with a smaller frame.

Campbell, Davis, DHB, and gaither are all freak athletes but thats what they look for at maryland, the biggest fastest and strongest....not really the best football players. i dont think its a maryland thing, i think its a merriman thing

Mr. Goosemahn
09-07-2010, 09:58 AM
Merriman wasn't nearly as dominant and punishing after getting caught (just ask Mojo). Then the knee injuries did him in.

He was a great player, but the truth is that we have not seen him be productive without juicing up. Also, I'm no doctor, but I believe that steroid use can have harmful effects on the ligaments, which could also be something Merriman suffers fom. The muscles grow way too fast for the ligaments, and they can't keep up, so they become strained and then damaged. This sound right?

FUNBUNCHER
09-07-2010, 10:05 AM
If I were a GM, I'd just stay away from Maryland prospects. It's pretty damn obvious that all these guys are juicers.

And most of them flame out in the NFL. There are always 2-3 freak athletes from Maryland who post amazing numbers at the combine, then they flame out in the NFL.

I'm surprised Maryland doesn't get called out more, I think its pretty obvious they all juice over there.

If VD was juicing, he must have started at age 15.
Vernon IMO is a mutant. He's always been bigger/faster/stronger than every other kid on a football field since he was a pee-wee.

Shawne Merriman on the other hand was 170# at one point in HS at a height of 6'2, and there have been rumors about him taking PEDs since before he arrived at UMD.

Friedgen has a knack for recruiting local kids who've only played a year or two of HS football, but have a lot of untapped athletic ability.

Darius Heyward Bey was a track guy who played one year of HS football that no one really wanted.

Bruce Campbell is too dumb to juice and never really played HS football, but he was an absolute Bigfoot as a teen and Fridge took a chance on him.

Shawne may become a starter again, but that dominant player we all saw his first couple years, that wasn't 'natural' IMO.

USC is 'juicer U.', not the Terps btw.

Basically, if you can run, jump and lift the gym but don't like sports too tough, Friedgen will give you a free-ride to UMD.

K Train
09-07-2010, 10:16 AM
If VD was juicing, he must have started at age 15.
Vernon IMO is a mutant. He's always been bigger/faster/stronger than every other kid on a football field since he was a pee-wee.

Shawne Merriman on the other hand was 170# at one point in HS at a height of 6'2, and there have been rumors about him taking PEDs since before he arrived at UMD.

Friedgen has a knack for recruiting local kids who've only played a year or two of HS football, but have a lot of untapped athletic ability.

Darius Heyward Bey was a track guy who played one year of HS football that no one really wanted.

Bruce Campbell is too dumb to juice and never really played HS football, but he was an absolute Bigfoot as a teen and Fridge took a chance on him.

Shawne may become a starter again, but that dominant player we all saw his first couple years, that wasn't 'natural' IMO.

USC is 'juicer U.', not the Terps btw.

Basically, if you can run, jump and lift the gym but don't like sports too tough, Friedgen will give you a free-ride to UMD.

+1

pretty much all of this, they dont land top recruits as football players, but they target some unreal athletes

Shiver
09-07-2010, 10:19 AM
I don't think the PED (or lack thereof) did Merriman in, his knees did.

K Train
09-07-2010, 10:20 AM
I don't think the PED (or lack thereof) did Merriman in, his knees did.
its probably more related than you think

bigbluedefense
09-07-2010, 10:23 AM
I remember seeing Merriman for the first 2 years of his career and thinking to myself, this guy is the closest thing to Lawrence Taylor we've ever seen.

Now fast forward 2-3 years, and we're wondering if he can even get 10 sacks a season.

It's amazing how much things change in this league in such a short period of time.

Shiver
09-07-2010, 10:25 AM
its probably more related than you think


Excess stress because of the unnatural muscle gain? perhaps.

FUNBUNCHER
09-07-2010, 10:25 AM
The problem with PEDs is that the increased size/muscle strength puts more load on joints and ligaments than they were intended to support.

It would be like putting a muscular 21 year old's biceps into the arm of a five year old. At some point he's going to blow out his shoulder and elbow joints/ligaments.

katnip
09-07-2010, 12:07 PM
I voted - no.

he can be good again, I don't know, don't watch chargers games. But I don't think he'll ever be lights out again

Basileus777
09-07-2010, 12:32 PM
Whatever combination of the knee injuries and lack of juice caused it, he simply doesn't have the explosion and mobility he used to have. I don't see him ever getting close to what he was.

katnip
09-07-2010, 12:36 PM
To me once he lost his ability to over power tackles, thats when he lost it. I remember him vs. the Pats in the playoffs trying to over power the RT Kazcur (I think) and he couldn't do nothing.

wasn't he caught using PED's too?

FUNBUNCHER
09-07-2010, 12:43 PM
Merriman's go-to move used to be that he could bull rush an OT three to five yards into the backfield, disengage and rush the passer.

He's not that guy anymore.

killxswitch
09-07-2010, 01:21 PM
No.

1 - He's off roids.
2 - the SD DL is not what it used to be.

ViperVisor
09-07-2010, 01:32 PM
By the transitive property of Tila Tequila you doom yourself.

RaiderNation
09-07-2010, 02:03 PM
He isnt on the roids anymore so no

Xenos
09-07-2010, 02:35 PM
Merriman wasn't nearly as dominant and punishing after getting caught (just ask Mojo). Then the knee injuries did him in.

He was a great player, but the truth is that we have not seen him be productive without juicing up. Also, I'm no doctor, but I believe that steroid use can have harmful effects on the ligaments, which could also be something Merriman suffers fom. The muscles grow way too fast for the ligaments, and they can't keep up, so they become strained and then damaged. This sound right?
He led the league in sacks in 2006 without juicing up. People keep forgetting that he tested positive during the offseason prior to that crazy season. He has been negative since. He also did well the following season in 2007 when Cottrell finally let him rush the passer instead of playing coverage so much. The reason he's in this state right now is because both Kevin Mawae and another Titan player cheapshotted him and tore his ACL. And even after that incident, he still played well into the AFC Championship game. Ultimately, he really should have gotten that surgery immediately after that game.

If anything this should be the season where he should be coming back. The problem last year was he was still recovering from the surgery and thus tried to overcompensate for it which led to more injuries like the groin and plantar facilitis.

Xenos
09-07-2010, 02:36 PM
To me once he lost his ability to over power tackles, thats when he lost it. I remember him vs. the Pats in the playoffs trying to over power the RT Kazcur (I think) and he couldn't do nothing.

wasn't he caught using PED's too?
It was Light, and he was chokeholding Merriman all game long.

San Diego Chicken
09-07-2010, 02:49 PM
I think his priorities are messed up and he doesn't play hard anymore. He's more interested in being a celebrity. He had a good season in 07, post suspension. But ever since then success went to his head. I'm hoping that money will motivate him this year but I'm not holding my breath or anything.

CC.SD
09-07-2010, 03:01 PM
I think the real answer is 'who cares' and why is this a thread?

Splat
09-07-2010, 03:15 PM
I think the real answer is 'who cares' and why is this a thread?

Because I clicked the new thread button.

Nalej
09-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Maybe?????

wonderbredd24
09-07-2010, 03:25 PM
I know there are some that will argue against it, but in my opinion, the steroids that helped him early in his career are what's going to kill it now. I think the steroids have ****** the ligaments in his knee and will never get back to where they need to be.

No one seemed to want him at all when he was available either.

Bob Sanders Dreadlock
09-07-2010, 03:36 PM
Will he beat Tila Tequila again? I hope yes