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09-11-2010, 01:53 PM
PROSPECTS BY SCHOOL (2011 Draft)
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ABILENE CHRISTIAN
471. Edmund Gates, WR, 6-0, 190, Abilene Christian
474. Trevis Turner, OT, 6-7, 336, Abilene Christian

AKRON
331. Eugene Jarvis, RB, 5-5, 170, Akron

ALABAMA
1. Mark Ingram, RB, 5-10, 215, Alabama *
9. Julio Jones, WR, 6-4, 212, Alabama *
39. Don'ta Hightower, ILB/OLB, 6-4, 258, Alabama *
59. Mark Barron, SS, 6-2, 210, Alabama *
67. Marcell Dareus, DT/DE, 6-3, 306, Alabama *
153. Kerry Murphy, DT/NT, 6-4, 320, Alabama #
202. Barrett Jones, OG, 6-5, 280, Alabama *
228. James Carpenter, OT/OG, 6-5, 295, Alabama
293. Greg McElroy, QB, 6-2, 225, Alabama

ALABAMA-BIRMINGHAM
351. Frantell Forrest, WR, 6-2, 195, Alabama-Birmingham
451. Jeff Anderson, TE, 6-3, 255, Alabama-Birmingham

APPALACHIAN STATE
378. Mark LeGree, FS, 6-0, 200, Appalachian State

ARIZONA
106. Nick Foles, QB, 6-5, 235, Arizona *
117. Colin Baxter, OG, 6-4, 295, Arizona
310. Juron Criner, WR, 6-4, 210, Arizona *
319. Ricky Elmore, DE/OLB, 6-5, 260, Arizona
368. Nic Grigsby, RB, 5-10, 180, Arizona
436. Keenyn Crier, P, 6-1, 200, Arizona
497. Adam Grant, OT, 6-6, 325, Arizona

ARIZONA STATE
53. Omar Bolden, CB, 5-10, 195, Arizona State
85. Lawrence Guy, DT/DE, 6-5, 300, Arizona State *
409. Thomas Weber, K, 6-0, 205, Arizona State

ARKANSAS
10. Ryan Mallett, QB, 6-5, 255, Arkansas *
41. DeMarcus Love, OT, 6-5, 315, Arkansas
80. Greg Childs, WR, 6-3, 217, Arkansas
376. D.J. Williams, TE/FB, 6-2, 250, Arkansas

ARKANSAS STATE
342. Derek Newton, OT, 6-6, 308, Arkansas State

AUBURN
76. Lee Ziemba, OT, 6-8, 300, Auburn
166. Mario Fannin, RB, 5-11, 228, Auburn
169. Darvin Adams, WR, 6-3, 185, Auburn *
199. Josh Bynes, ILB, 6-2, 240, Auburn
237. Cameron Newton, QB, 6-6, 250, Auburn *
249. Zach Clayton, DT, 6-3, 290, Auburn
282. Zac Etheridge, SS, 6-0, 213, Auburn
356. Zach Clayton, DT/DE, 6-3, 290, Auburn
411. Ryan Pugh, C, 6-1, 295, Auburn
449. Terrell Zachery, WR, 5-11, 205, Auburn

BALL STATE
317. MiQuale Lewis, RB, 5-6, 201, Ball State
288. Sean Baker, SS, 6-1, 205, Ball State *
156. Phil Taylor, DT/NT, 6-4, 355, Baylor
234. Derek Epperson, P, 6-3, 235, Baylor
204. Kendall Wright, WR, 5-10, 185, Baylor *
264. Robert Griffin III, QB/ATH, 6-2, 220, Baylor *

BOISE STATE
90. Austin Pettis, WR, 6-3, 202, Boise State
116. Nate Potter, OT/OG, 6-6, 300, Boise State *
129. Titus Young, WR, 6-0, 170, Boise State
221. Ryan Winterswyk, DE, 6-4, 270, Boise State
226. Kellen Moore, QB, 6-0, 187, Boise State *
266. Billy Winn, DT/DE, 6-4, 288, Boise State *
285. Jeron Johnson, SS, 5-11, 195, Boise State
306. Doug Martin, RB, 5-9, 201, Boise State *
372. Jeremy Avery, RB, 5-9, 173, Boise State
375. Brandyn Thompson, CB, 5-10, 180, Boise State

BOSTON COLLEGE
60. Anthony Costanzo, OT, 6-7, 300, Boston College
98. Mark Herzlich, OLB, 6-4, 250, Boston College
189. Thomas Claiborne, OG, 6-3, 325, Boston College
196. Alex Albright, DE/OLB, 6-5, 248, Boston College
235. Rich Lapham, OT, 6-8, 322, Boston College
297. Montel Harris, RB, 5-10, 200, Boston College *

BRIGHAM YOUNG
49. Matt Reynolds, OT, 6-6, 320, Brigham Young

BUFFALO
114. Davonte Shannon, SS, 6-0, 195, Buffalo

CALIFORNIA
111. Cameron Jordan, DE, 6-4, 285, California
336. Mike Mohamed, ILB, 6-3, 237, California
461. Kevin Riley, QB, 6-2, 221, California
112. Shane Vereen, RB, 5-10, 204, California *

CENTRAL FLORIDA
165. Bruce Miller, DE/OLB, 6-2, 248, Central Florida
359. Jah Reid, OT, 6-7, 315, Central Florida
465. Brynn Harvey, RB, 6-1, 207, Central Florida *

CENTRAL MICHIGAN
455. Colin Miller, C, 6-3, 295, Central Michigan

CINCINNATI
40. Armon Binns, WR, 6-4, 200, Cincinnati
231. Isiah Pead, RB, 5-10, 193, Cincinnati *
243. Vidal Hazelton, WR, 6-2, 210, Cincinnati
284. Alex Hoffman, OG, 6-6, 295, Cincinnati *
363. Marcus Barnett, WR, 6-1, 180, Cincinnati *
438. Jason Kelce, OG, 6-4, 292, Cincinnati
443. Ben Guidugli, FB, 6-0, 237, Cincinnati (TE)
464. Jake Rogers, K, 6-2, 215, Cincinnati

CITADEL
251. Cortez Allen, CB, 6-2, 190, Citadel

CLEMSON
89. Jarvis Jenkins, DT/NT, 6-4, 320, Clemson
47. Da'Quan Bowers, DE, 6-4, 278, Clemson *
57. DeAndre McDaniel, SS/FS, 6-1, 210, Clemson *
115. Jamie Harper, RB, 5-11, 230, Clemson *
143. Brandon Thompson, DT/DE, 6-3, 305, Clemson *
250. Chris Hairston, OT, 6-7, 325, Clemson
269. Rashard Hall, FS, 6-2, 195, Clemson #
314. Brandon Maye, ILB, 6-3, 230, Clemson *
394. Marcus Gilchrist, CB, 5-11, 190, Clemson

COLORADO
177. Nate Solder, OT, 6-8, 300, Colorado *
229. Jimmy Smith, CB/S, 6-2, 210, Colorado
335. Scotty McKnight, WR, 5-11, 185, Colorado
407. Jalil Brown, CB, 6-0, 200, Colorado

COLORADO STATE
467. Eric Peitz, TE, 6-5, 250, Colorado State

CONNECTICUT
180. Greg Lloyd, OLB/ILB, 6-1, 236, Connecticut
224. Lawrence Wilson, OLB, 6-1, 224, Connecticut
257. Zach Hurd, OG, 6-7, 315, Connecticut
316. Scott Lutrus, ILB, 6-3, 240, Connecticut
399. Zach Frazer, QB, 6-4, 231, Connecticut
457. Jordan Todman, RB, 5-9, 190, Connecticut *
492. Anthony Sherman, FB, 5-11, 240, Connecticut

DELEWARE
82. Pat Devlin, QB, 6-4, 220, Deleware

DUKE
300. Donovan Varner, WR, 5-9, 170, Duke *

EAST CAROLINA
68. Dwayne Harris, WR, 5-10, 205, East Carolina
374. D.J. Scott, OT, 6-6, 325, East Carolina
495. Travis Simmons, CB, 5-10, 177, East Carolina

EMPORIA STATE
383. Harold Ayodele, DT/NT, 6-1, 338, Emporia State

FLORIDA
19. Will Hill, FS/SS, 6-1, 200, Florida *
46. Ahmad Black, SS/FS, 5-10, 190, Florida
66. Michael Pouncey, OG/C, 6-5, 312, Florida
81. Janoris Jenkins, CB, 5-11, 190, Florida *
96. Lawrence Marsh, DT/DE, 6-5, 305, Florida
130. Jeff Demps, RB, 5-8, 185, Florida *
141. James Wilson, OG, 6-5, 315, Florida *
218. Marcus Gilbert, OT, 6-6, 318, Florida
272. John Brantley, QB, 6-3, 218, Florida *
339. Chas Henry, P, 6-3, 222, Florida
350. Emmanuel Moody, RB, 5-11, 212, Florida
388. Carl Johnson, OT/OG, 6-5, 342, Florida
447. Deonte Thompson, WR, 5-11, 203, Florida*
496. Brandon Hicks, ILB/OLB, 6-2, 224, Florida
499. A.J. Jones, OLB, 6-1, 226, Florida

FLORIDA ATLANTIC
442. Jeff Van Camp, QB, 6-6, 222, Florida Atlantic
502. Lester Jean, WR, 6-3, 200, Florida Atlantic
512. Tavious Polo, CB, 5-10, 168, Florida Atlantic

FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
398. T.Y. Hilton, WR, 5-10, 175, Florida International *

FLORIDA STATE
22. Christian Ponder, QB, 6-3, 220, Florida State
31. Rodney Hudson, OG, 6-2, 290, Florida State
181. Ryan McMahon, C, 6-3, 290, Florida State
213. Andrew Datko, OT, 6-6, 303, Florida State *
276. Markus White, DE/OLB, 6-4, 258, Florida State
355. Nigel Bradham, OLB, 6-3, 235, Florida State *

FORDHAM
419. Stephen Skelton, TE, 6-5, 238, Fordham

FORT HAYS STATE
468. O.J. Murdock, WR, 5-11, 195, Fort Hays State

FRESNO STATE
185. Chris Carter, OLB, 6-2, 240, Fresno State (DE)
261. Kenny Wiggins, OT/OG, 6-7, 310, Fresno State
296. Andrew Jackson, OG, 6-5, 295, Fresno State
502. Cornell Banks, DT/NT, 6-3, 310, Fresno State
506. Ben Jacobs, ILB/OLB, 6-4, 236, Fresno State
509. Anthony Leon, OLB, 6-4, 227, Fresno State

GEORGIA
3. A.J. Green, WR, 6-4, 208, Georgia *
44. Clint Boling, OT, 6-5, 295, Georgia *
122. Trinton Sturdivant, OT, 6-5, 300, Georgia *
154. Ben Jones, C, 6-3, 300, Georgia *
190. Justin Houston, DE/OLB, 6-3, 260, Georgia *
433. Caleb King, RB, 5-11, 210, Georgia

GEORGIA TECH
108. Anthony Allen, RB, 6-1, 228, Georgia Tech *
259. Josh Nesbitt, ATH/QB, 6-1, 217, Georgia Tech (ATH)
292. Mario Butler, CB, 6-1, 182, Georgia Tech
328. Roddy Jones, RB, 5-9, 202, Georgia Tech *
333. Brad Jefferson, ILB, 6-2, 237, Georgia Tech
453. Sean Bedford, C, 6-1, 274, Georgia Tech
483. Austin Barrick, OG/OT, 6-3, 284, Georgia Tech

GRAMBLING
477. Christian Anthony, DE, 6-4, 275, Grambling

HAMPTON
195. Kendrick Ellis, DT/NT, 6-5, 340, Hampton

HAWAII
444. Greg Salas, WR, 6-2, 205, Hawaii

HOUSTON
131. Case Keenum, QB, 6-2, 210, Houston
320. James Cleveland, WR, 6-1, 205, Houston

IDAHO
255. Nathan Enderle, QB, 6-5, 227, Idaho
280. Shiloh Keo, SS, 5-11, 216, Idaho
516. Deonte Jackson, RB, 5-9. 199, Idaho

ILLINOIS
71. Martrez Wilson, ILB/OLB, 6-4, 250, Illinois *
147. Mikel LeShoure, RB, 6-0, 230, Illinois *

INDIANA
113. Tandon Doss, WR, 6-3, 199, Indiana *
358. Ben Chappell, QB, 6-3, 239, Indiana

IOWA
12. Adrian Clayborn, DE/DT, 6-3, 282, Iowa
117. Adam Robinson, RB, 5-9, 205, Iowa #
118. Christian Ballard, DT/DE, 6-5, 297, Iowa
145. Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, WR, 6-0, 200, Iowa
237. Jeremiha Hunter, OLB/ILB, 6-2, 235, Iowa
241. Tyler Sash, SS, 6-1, 210, Iowa *
246. Broderick Binns, DE/DT, 6-2, 261, Iowa *
253. Marvin McNutt, WR, 6-4, 215, Iowa *
277. Brett Greenwood, FS, 6-0, 200, Iowa
304. Ricky Stanzi, QB, 6-4, 225, Iowa
321. Karl Klug, DE/DT, 6-3, 268, Iowa
429. Ryan Donahue, P, 6-2, 190, Iowa
466. Andrew Schulze, LS, 6-5, 260, Iowa
485. Shaun Prater, CB, 5-11, 180, Iowa

IOWA STATE
256. Kelechi Osemele, OT, 6-5, 327, Iowa State *

KANSAS
217. Tanner Hawkinson, OT, 6-6, 293, Kansas #
377. Chris Harris, CB/S, 6-0, 185, Kansas
412. Brad Thorson, OG/OT, 6-4, 310, Kansas
484. Jake Laptad, DE/OLB, 6-4, 260, Kansas

KANSAS STATE
37. Daniel Thomas, RB, 6-2, 227, Kansas State
86. Tysyn Hartman, SS, 6-3, 206, Kansas State *
392. Randall Cobb, WR, 5-11, 188, Kentucky *
408. Derrick Locke, RB, 5-9, 190, Kentucky

LEHIGH
244. Will Rackley, OG, 6-4, 305, Lehigh

LOUISIANA STATE
6. Patrick Peterson, CB, 6-1, 210, Louisiana State *
52. Drake Nevis, DT, 6-1, 292, Louisiana State
64. Joseph Barksdale, OT, 6-5, 315, Louisiana State
78. Brandon Taylor, SS, 6-0, 191, Louisiana State *
87. Terrance Toliver, WR, 6-4, 206, Louisiana State
263. Kelvin Sheppard, ILB/OLB, 6-3, 240, Louisiana State
286. Jordan Jefferson, QB, 6-5, 224, Louisiana State *
352. Jai Eugene, FS, 5-11, 182, Louisiana State

LOUISIANA TECH
345. Rob McGill, OT, 6-6, 310, Louisiana Tech

LOUISVILLE
380. Victor Anderson, RB, 5-9, 185, Louisville *
423. Cameron Graham, TE, 6-4, 255, Louisville
470. Johnny Patrick, CB, 5-11, 190, Louisville

MARSHALL
287. Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, 6-5, 242, Marshall *
305. Mario Harvey, ILB, 6-0, 250, Marshall
487. Lee Smith, TE, 6-6, 267, Marshall

MARYLAND
150. Da'Rel Scott, RB, 5-11, 195, Maryland
295. Antwine Perez, FS, 6-1, 200, Maryland
370. Adrian Moten, OLB, 6-2, 225, Maryland
400. Cameron Chism, CB, 6-0, 185, Maryland *
404. Alex Wujciak, ILB, 6-3, 255, Maryland
462. Torrey Smith, KR/PR 6-1, 200, Maryland * (WR)

MEMPHIS
488. Dominik Riley, OG/OT, 6-5, 310, Memphis

MIAMI
28. Allen Bailey, DT/DE, 6-4, 288, Miami
62. Leonard Hankerson, WR, 6-3, 215, Miami
77. Jacory Harris, QB, 6-4, 200, Miami *
84. Brandon Harris, CB, 5-11, 195, Miami *
101. Colin McCarthy, ILB, 6-3, 242, Miami
150. Matt Bosher, K/P, 6-0, 205, Miami
170. Damien Berry, RB, 6-0, 215, Miami
188. Graig Cooper, RB, 6-0, 200, Miami
216. Sean Spence, OLB/S, 6-0, 212, Miami *
220. Orlando Franklin, OG/OT, 6-7, 318, Miami
254. DeMarcus Van Dyke, CB, 6-0, 180, Miami
308. LaRon Byrd, WR, 6-4, 215, Miami *
432. Joel Figueroa, OG/OT, 6-5, 330, Miami

MIAMI (OH)
515. Armand Robinson, WR, 6-0, 200, Miami (OH)

MICHIGAN
159. Ryan Van Bergen, DE, 6-6, 280, Michigan *
163. Mike Martin, DT, 6-2, 299, Michigan *
233. David Molk, C, 6-2, 285, Michigan *
236. Stephen Schilling, OG/OT, 6-5, 300, Michigan
245. Jonas Mouton, OLB, 6-2, 228, Michigan
329. Obi Ezeh, ILB, 6-2, 245, Michigan
458. Martell Webb, TE, 6-4, 260, Michigan

MICHIGAN STATE
15. Greg Jones, OLB/ILB, 6-1, 224, Michigan State
75. Kirk Cousins, QB, 6-3, 202, Michigan State #
130. Jerel Worthy, DT/DE, 6-3, 298, Michigan State #
205. Mark Dell, WR, 6-2, 190, Michigan State
222. Joel Foreman, OG, 6-4, 306, Michigan State *
364. Eric Gordon, OLB, 6-0, 228, Michigan State
424. Chris Rucker, CB, 6-2, 195, Michigan State

MIDDLE TENNESSEE STATE
274. Dwight Dasher, ATH, 5-10, 202, Middle Tennessee State (QB)

MINNESOTA
384. Adam Weber, QB, 6-3, 220, Minnesota
413. Duane Bennett, RB, 5-9, 210, Minnesota *

MISSISSIPPI
43. Jerrell Powe, DT/NT, 6-2, 340, Mississippi
167. Kentrell Lockett, DE/OLB, 6-5, 254, Mississippi
279. Jeremiah Masoli, ATH/QB, 5-11, 220, Mississippi (QB)
435. Ted Laurent, DT, 6-1, 305, Mississippi
501. Jonathan Cornell, ILB, 6-1, 235, Mississippi

MISSISSIPPI STATE
142. Pernell McPhee, DE/OLB, 6-4, 275, Mississippi State
281. Derek Sherrod, OT, 6-6, 305, Mississippi State
360. K.J. Wright, OLB, 6-3, 245, Mississippi State
476. Chris White, ILB/OLB, 6-3, 242, Mississippi State

MISSOURI
95. Blaine Gabbert, QB, 6-5, 240, Missouri *
107. Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, 6-5, 255, Missouri #
174. Derrick Washington, RB, 5-11, 215, Missouri
194. Elvis Fisher, OT, 6-5, 300, Missouri *
294. Will Ebner, ILB, 6-1, 230, Missouri *
324. Jerrell Jackson, WR, 6-1, 190, Missouri *
415. Tim Barnes, C/OG, 6-4, 310, Missouri

MOUNT UNION
138. Cecil Shorts III, WR, 6-0, 190, Mount Union

NAVY
323. Ricky Dobbs, ATH/QB, 6-1, 203, Navy (QB)

NEBRASKA
5. Jared Crick, DT/DE, 6-6, 290, Nebraska *
34. Prince Amukamara, CB, 6-1, 200, Nebraska
148. Niles Paul, WR, 6-1, 220, Nebraska
227. Keith Williams, OG/OT, 6-5, 310, Nebraska
242. Pierre Allen, DE/OLB, 6-4, 265, Nebraska
265. Roy Hulu, RB, 6-0, 215, Nebraska
312. Eric Hagg, SS, 6-2, 205, Nebraska
387. Alex Henry, K, 6-2, 175, Nebraska
397. Mike McNeill, TE, 6-4, 240, Nebraska

NEVADA
155. John Bender, OG, 6-8, 325, Nevada
200. Dontay Moch, OLB/ILB, 6-1, 240, Nevada
230. Via Taua, FB/RB, 5-10, 225, Nevada
330. Colin Kaepernick, QB, 6-6, 215, Nevada
416. Virgil Green, TE, 6-5, 240, Nevada

NEVADA-LAS VEGAS
379. Philip Payne, WR, 6-3, 200, Nevada-Las Vegas *
390. Deante' Purvis, KR/PR 5-11, 195, Nevada-Las Vegas * (CB)

NEW MEXICO STATE
357. Davon House, CB, 6-0, 180, New Mexico State

NORTH ALABAMA
260. Brent Vinson, CB, 6-2, 190, North Alabama

NORTH CAROLINA
7. Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, 6-5, 256, North Carolina *
16. Marvin Austin, DT, 6-3, 305, North Carolina
23. Bruce Carter, OLB, 6-3, 225, North Carolina
36. Quan Sturdivant, ILB/OLB, 6-2, 232, North Carolina
69. Greg Little, WR, 6-3, 210, North Carolina
105. Tydreke Powell, DT, 6-3, 310, North Carolina *
124. Kendric Burney, CB, 5-9, 182, North Carolina
127. Zack Pianalto, TE, 6-4, 255, North Carolina
139. Deunta Williams, FS, 6-2, 205, North Carolina
183. Michael McAdoo, DE/OLB, 6-7, 245, North Carolina *
341. Ryan Houston, FB, 6-2, 245, North Carolina
385. Charles Brown, CB, 5-9, 195, North Carolina
425. Da'Norris Searcy, KR/PR 6-0, 215, North Carolina (S)
447. Shaun Draughn, RB, 6-0, 205, North Carolina
459. T.J. Yates, QB, 6-4, 220, North Carolina

NORTH CAROLINA STATE
178. George Bryan, TE, 6-5, 270, North Carolina State *
182. Terrell Manning, OLB, 6-3, 224, North Carolina State #
206. Nate Irving, ILB/OLB, 6-1, 230, North Carolina State
208. Owen Spencer, WR, 6-3, 180, North Carolina State
337. Jarvis Williams, WR, 6-4, 205, North Carolina State

NORTHERN ILLINOIS
491. Chad Spann, RB, 5-9, 198, Northern Illinois

NORTHWEST MISSOURI STATE
478. Ryan Jones, CB, 5-11, 195, Northwest Missouri State

NORTHWESTERN
136. Quentin Davie, OLB, 6-4, 230, Northwestern
223. Ben Burkett, C, 6-4, 290, Northwestern *
362. Al Netter, OT, 6-6, 300, Northwestern *
414. Drake Dunsmore, TE, 6-3, 235, Northwestern

NOTRE DAME
27. Michael Floyd, WR, 6-3, 220, Notre Dame *
30. Kyle Rudolph, TE, 6-6, 260, Notre Dame *
120. Armando Allen, RB, 5-11, 200, Notre Dame
219. Ian Williams, DT, 6-2, 300, Notre Dame
248. Dan Wenger, C/OG, 6-4, 300, Notre Dame
289. Trevor Robinson, OG, 6-5, 300, Notre Dame *
367. Brian Smith, OLB, 6-3, 240, Notre Dame
445. Darrin Walls, CB, 6-0, 190, Notre Dame

OHIO
353. LaVon Brazill, KR/PR 5-11, 191, Ohio (WR)

OHIO STATE
13. Mike Brewster, C/OG, 6-5, 298, Ohio State *
17. Cameron Heyward, DE/DT, 6-6, 287, Ohio State
50. Terrelle Pryor, QB/ATH, 6-6, 240, Ohio State *
56. DeVier Posey, WR, 6-3, 205, Ohio State *
92. Mike Adams, OT, 6-8, 325, Ohio State *
94. Jermale Hines, SS, 6-2, 210, Ohio State
171. Justin Boren, OG, 6-3, 315, Ohio State
211. Ross Homan, OLB, 6-0, 230, Ohio State
270. Dane Sanzenbacher, WR, 5-11, 185, Ohio State
299. Brandon Saine, RB, 6-1, 217, Ohio State
382. Chimdi Chekwa, CB, 6-0, 190, Ohio State
441. Devon Torrence, CB, 6-0, 194, Ohio State

OKLAHOMA
18. Travis Lewis, OLB, 6-2, 230, Oklahoma *
33. DeMarco Murray, RB/ATH, 6-1, 205, Oklahoma
45. Jeremy Beal, DE/OLB, 6-3, 260, Oklahoma
51. Quinton Carter, FS, 6-1, 195, Oklahoma
54. Ryan Broyles, WR/KR, 5-11, 178, Oklahoma *
125. Adrian Taylor, DT/DE, 6-4, 303, Oklahoma
172. Frank Alexander, DE/OLB, 6-4, 260, Oklahoma *
212. Ben Habern, C, 6-3, 292, Oklahoma #
215. Stephen Good, OG, 6-6, 300, Oklahoma *
301. Cory Brandon, OT, 6-7, 310, Oklahoma

OKLAHOMA STATE
137. Kendall Hunter, RB, 5-8, 190, Oklahoma State
186. Ugo Chinasa, DE/OLB, 6-6, 255, Oklahoma State
347. Anthony Morgan, OG, 6-5, 320, Oklahoma State

OREGON
79. Javes Lewis, CB, 6-1, 190, Oregon *
100. Kenny Rowe, OLB, 6-3, 232, Oregon
332. Bo Thran, OT/OG, 6-5, 295, Oregon
498. Brandon Bair, DT/DE, 6-7, 266, Oregon
511. Jeff Maehl, WR, 6-1, 184, Oregon

OREGON STATE
70. Stephen Paea, DT, 6-1, 295, Oregon State
74. Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, 5-7, 192, Oregon State *
191. James Rodgers, WR, 5-7, 188, Oregon State
428. James Dockery, CB, 6-1, 176, Oregon State

PENN STATE
58. Jack Crawford, DE/OLB, 6-5, 256, Penn State *
120. Evan Royster, RB, 6-1, 212, Penn State
146. Stefen Wisniewski, C, 6-3, 298, Penn State
201. Derek Moye, WR, 6-5, 202, Penn State *
393. Ollie Ogbu, DT, 6-1, 285, Penn State
454. Graham Zug, WR, 6-2, 185, Penn State

PITT
8. Dion Lewis, RB, 5-8, 195, Pitt #
11. Jonathan Baldwin, WR, 6-5, 225, Pitt *
14. Greg Romeus, DE/OLB, 6-5, 265, Pitt
65. Jabaal Sheard, DE/OLB, 6-4, 260, Pitt
91. Henry Hynoski, FB, 6-2, 258, Pitt *
187. Jason Pinkston, OT, 6-4, 305, Pitt
343. Dom DeCicco, SS, 6-3, 230, Pitt
421. Chris Jacobson, OG, 6-3, 295, Pitt *

PURDUE
121. Ryan Kerrigan, DE/OLB, 6-4, 263, Purdue
210. Keith Smith, WR, 6-2, 226, Purdue
437. Kyle Adams, TE, 6-4, 250, Purdue

RICE
489. Scott Solomon, DE, 6-3, 265, Rice
494. Scott Mitchell, OT/OG, 6-6, 325, Rice

RICHMOND
346. Justin Rogers, CB, 5-10, 182, Richmond

RUTGERS
149. Jonathan Freeney, DE/OLB, 6-3, 250, Rutgers
290. Joe Lefeged, SS, 6-1, 205, Rutgers

SAN DIEGO STATE
158. Vincent Brown, WR, 6-0, 180, San Diego State
318. DeMarco Sampson, WR, 6-2, 210, San Diego State

SAN JOSE STATE
309. Duke Ihenacho, SS, 6-0, 208, San Jose State

SLIPPERY ROCK
460. Brandon Fusco, C, 6-4, 300, Slippery Rock

SOUTH CAROLINA
109. Weslye Saunders, TE, 6-5, 270, South Carolina
175. Jarriel King, OT, 6-5, 312, South Carolina
179. Cliff Matthews, DE/OLB, 6-4, 262, South Carolina
239. Chris Culliver, CB, 6-0, 200, South Carolina
302. Tori Gurley, WR, 6-5, 227, South Carolina #
326. Chris Culliver, FS, 6-0, 190, South Carolina
373. Stephen Garcia, QB, 6-2, 227, South Carolina *
386. Ladi Ajiboye, DT, 6-1, 280, South Carolina

SOUTH FLORIDA
479. Terrell McClain, DT, 6-3, 305, South Florida

SOUTHERN ARKANSAS
258. Cedric Thornton, DT/DE, 6-4, 295, Southern Arkansas

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
25. Jurrell Casey, DT, 6-1, 295, Southern California *
35. Kris O'Dowd, C, 6-5, 300, Southern California
48. Chris Galippo, ILB, 6-2, 250, Southern California *
55. Tyron Smith, OT, 6-6, 285, Southern California
73. Stanley Havili, FB/RB, 6-1, 230, Southern California
103. Mike Morgan, OLB, 6-4, 225, Southern California
134. Allen Bradford, RB, 5-11, 235, Southern California
151. Ronald Johnson, WR, 5-11, 190, Southern California
160. C.J. Gable, RB, 6-1, 200, Southern California
168. Shareece Wright, CB, 6-0, 185, Southern California
203. Blake Ayles, TE, 6-5, 245, Southern California *
361. Mitch Mustain, QB, 6-3, 220, Southern California
426. Zach Heberer, OG, 6-5, 300, Southern California

SOUTHERN ILLINOIS
505. Korey Lindsey, CB, 5-11, 185, Southern Illinois

SOUTHERN METHODIST
313. Aldrick Robinson, WR, 5-10, 175, Southern Methodist

SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI
126. DeAndre Brown, WR/TE, 6-6, 230, Southern Mississippi *
193. Anthony Gray, DE/ILB, 6-2, 251, Southern Mississippi *
214. Anthony Gray, DT/NT, 6-0, 317, Southern Mississippi *
371. Korey Williams, ILB, 6-2, 234, Southern Mississippi *
481. C.J. Bailey, CB, 5-10, 184, Southern Mississippi *
493. Camern Zipp, C, 6-1, 282, Southern Mississippi *

STANFORD
4. Andrew Luck, QB, 6-4, 235, Stanford #
83. Chris Owusu, WR, 6-2, 201, Stanford *
365. Sione Fua, DT/NT, 6-2, 307, Stanford
418. Chase Beeler, C, 6-3, 285, Stanford
475. Ryan Whalen, WR, 6-1, 210, Stanford
504. Owen Marecic, FB, 6-1, 245, Stanford

SYRACUSE
396. Delone Carter, RB, 5-10, 215, Syracuse
448. Ryan Bartholomew, C, 6-1, 298, Syracuse
472. Rob Long, P, 6-2, 190, Syracuse
486. Derrell Smith, ILB/OLB, 6-0, 235, Syracuse

TEMPLE
135. Muhammad Wilkerson, DT/DE, 6-5, 300, Temple *
140. Adrian Robinson, OLB/ILB, 6-2, 245, Temple *
275. Jaiquawn Jarrett, FS, 6-0, 197, Temple
325. Elijah Joseph, ILB, 6-2, 235, Temple
349. Jaiquawn Jarrett, FS, 6-2, 195, Temple

TENNESSEE
93. Montori Hughes, DT/NT, 6-4, 318, Tennessee #
119. Luke Stocker, TE, 6-6, 240, Tennessee
198. Chris Walker, OLB, 6-2, 236, Tennessee
500. Gerald Jones, WR, 6-0, 195, Tennessee

TENNESSEE STATE
480. Eugene Clifford, SS, 6-1, 198, Tennessee State

TEXAS
32. Aaron Williams, CB, 6-1, 190, Texas *
104. Sam Acho, DE/OLB, 6-3, 260, Texas
144. Keenan Robinson, OLB, 6-3, 232, Texas *
184. Curtis Brown, CB, 6-0, 180, Texas
209. Michael Huey, OG/OT, 6-5, 310, Texas
238. Malcolm Williams, WR, 6-3, 220, Texas *
252. Kyle Hix, OT, 6-7, 320, Texas
262. Tray Allen, OT, 6-5, 315, Texas
307. Blake Gideon, SS, 6-1, 200, Texas *
401. Emmanuel Acho, OLB, 6-2, 240, Texas *
417. Vondrell McGee, RB, 5-10, 205, Texas
430. Chykie Brown, CB, 6-0, 190, Texas
482. John Chiles, WR, 6-2, 215, Texas

TEXAS A&M
29. Von Miller, OLB, 6-2, 240, Texas A&M
42. Jerrod Johnson, QB, 6-5, 243, Texas A&M
133. Jeff Fuller, WR, 6-4, 215, Texas A&M
273. Trent Hunter, SS, 5-10, 190, Texas A&M *

TEXAS CHRISTIAN
99. Marcus Cannon, OT/OG, 6-5, 348, Texas Christian
123. Ed Wesley, RB, 5-9. 200, Texas Christian #
176. Wayne Daniels, DE/OLB, 6-2, 250, Texas Christian
283. Tejay Johnson, FS, 6-0, 208, Texas Christian
303. Jeremy Kerley, KR/PR 5-10, 192, Texas Christian (WR)
391. Tank Carder, ILB, 6-2, 234, Texas Christian *
315. Andy Dalton, QB, 6-2, 215, Texas Christian
403. Cory Grant, DT, 6-2, 305, Texas Christian
405. Jake Kirkpatrick, C, 6-3, 305, Texas Christian

TEXAS TECH
247. Colby Whitlock, DT, 6-2, 285, Texas Tech
268. Detron Lewis, WR, 6-0, 208, Texas Tech
334. Baron Batch, RB, 5-11, 205, Texas Tech
369. Jason Teague, CB/S, 6-2, 185, Texas Tech
422. Brian Duncan, ILB, 6-1, 240, Texas Tech
440. Taylor Potts, QB, 6-5, 218, Texas Tech

TEXAS-EL PASO
298. Braxton Amy, SS, 6-0, 205, Texas-El Paso
344. Trevor Vittatoe, QB, 6-2, 220, Texas-El Paso
389. Donald Buckram, RB, 5-9, 195, Texas-El Paso *
490. Alex Solot, OT, 6-8, 310, Texas-El Paso

TOLEDO
503. Archie Donald, OLB, 6-2, 235, Toledo
510. Danny Noble, TE, 6-5, 236, Toledo *

TROY
162. Jerrel Jernigan, WR, 5-9, 185, Troy

TULSA
338. Charles Clay, FB/RB, 6-3, 234, Tulsa (HB)
514. Trae Johnson, WR, 5-10, 178, Tulsa

UCLA
26. Rahim Moore, FS, 6-1, 197, UCLA *
97. Akeem Ayers, OLB, 6-4, 252, UCLA
161. Kai Forbath, K, 6-0, 192, UCLA
402. Kevin Prince, QB, 6-2, 230, UCLA #
431. Christian Yount, LS, 6-0, 245, UCLA

UTAH
38. Brandon Burton, CB, 6-0, 185, Utah *
291. Zane Taylor, C, 6-2, 300, Utah
410. Eddie Wide, RB, 5-10, 195, Utah
420. Matt Asiata, RB/FB, 5-11, 220, Utah
446. DeVonte Christopher, WR, 6-1, 200, Utah #
469. Caleb Schlauderaff, OG, 6-4, 300, Utah
507. Junior Tui'one, DE/OLB, 6-4, 265, Utah

VILLANOVA
232. Ben Ijalana, OG/OT, 6-4, 320, Villanova
327. Matt Szczur, WR, 5-11, 200, Villanova

VIRGINIA
24. Ras-I Dowling, CB/S, 6-2, 195, Virginia
164. Nick Jenkins, DT/DE, 6-3, 290, Virginia *
170. Matt Conrath, DE, 6-7, 280, Virginia *
406. Joe Torchia, TE, 6-6, 250, Virginia
473. Danny Aiken, LS, 6-5, 260, Virginia

VIRGINIA TECH
20. Ryan Williams, RB, 5-10, 210, Virginia Tech #
102. Darren Evans, RB, 6-0, 218, Virginia Tech *
123. Dyrell Roberts, WR, 6-1, 190, Virginia Tech *
173. Jarrett Boykin, WR, 6-2, 215, Virginia Tech *
207. Blake DeChristopher, OT, 6-5, 315, Virginia Tech *
240. Tyrod Taylor, ATH/QB, 6-1, 206, Virginia Tech (ATH)
278. Davon Morgan, SS, 6-0, 198, Virginia Tech
311. Barquell Rivers, ILB, 6-0, 235, Virginia Tech *
354. Rashad Carmichael, CB, 5-11, 186, Virginia Tech
434. Beau Warren, C, 6-3, 290, Virginia Tech
463. John Graves, DT, 6-3, 283, Virginia Tech

WAKE FOREST
157. Kyle Wilber, DE/OLB, 6-5, 235, Wake Forest *
452. Marshall Williams, WR, 6-1, 190, Wake Forest

WASHINGTON
2. Jake Locker, QB, 6-3, 222, Washington
395. Mason Foster, OLB, 6-2, 244, Washington
427. Jermaine Kearse, WR, 6-2, 200, Washington *

WASHINGTON STATE
366. Jeshua Anderson, WR, 6-2, 185, Washington State

WEST VIRGINIA
88. Robert Sands, FS/SS, 6-4, 215, West Virginia
110. Noel Devine, RB/KR, 5-8, 170, West Virginia
128. Chris Neild, DT, 6-2, 298, West Virginia
381. J.T. Thomas, OLB, 6-2, 225, West Virginia
439. Brandon Hogan, CB, 5-10, 190, West Virginia
508. Jock Sanders, WR/KR, 5-7, 180, West Virginia

WISCONSIN
21. Gabe Carimi, OT, 6-8, 300, Wisconsin
61. Nick Toon, WR, 6-3, 212, Wisconsin *
63. Lance Kendricks, TE, 6-4, 236, Wisconsin
72. John Clay, RB, 6-2, 237, Wisconsin *
132. John Moffitt, C, 6-4, 325, Wisconsin
192. Josh Oglesby, OT, 6-7, 331, Wisconsin *
197. David Gilreath, WR, 5-11, 170, Wisconsin
267. Kevin Zeitler, OG, 6-4, 315, Wisconsin *
271. J.J. Watt, DE, 6-6, 292, Wisconsin *
340. Scott Tolzien, QB, 6-3, 205, Wisconsin
348. Jay Valai, SS, 5-9, 200, Wisconsin

CashmoneyDrew
09-11-2010, 02:18 PM
You could add Chris Walker, LaMarcus Thompson and Denarius Moore to Tennessee.

Also, it's kind of weird that you have the players listed by school and then school name next to each of their traingle numbers and such.

Anyways, good job.

Hurricanes25
09-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Good work.

You have Kai Forbath listed twice with 2 different rankings. Just wanted to point that out to you.

Day One Pick
09-11-2010, 02:22 PM
Good work.

You have Kai Forbath listed twice with 2 different rankings. Just wanted to point that out to you.

ok, Thanks

iBoldin
09-11-2010, 02:52 PM
So you've legitimately watched enough football to scout and properly rank over 500 college players? How does one who is not a scout, able to do that? Or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass, merely basing things off of numbers?

I'm just really doubting you've scouted enough of a left guard out of Lehigh. Or an Iowa long snapper. Or a center from Southern Mississippi.

underscore
09-13-2010, 05:29 AM
Definitely not a banner crop at Penn State this year:

PENN STATE
58. Jack Crawford, DE/OLB, 6-5, 256, Penn State * (overrated at this point...looks the part, doesn't play the part)
120. Evan Royster, RB, 6-1, 212, Penn State (he's gotten worse since his sophomore year...he's really the 3rd best RB on his own team)
146. Stefen Wisniewski, C, 6-3, 298, Penn State (solid prospect, hasn't really improved much a PSU, though)
201. Derek Moye, WR, 6-5, 202, Penn State * (jury is still out on him...so far so good)
393. Ollie Ogbu, DT, 6-1, 285, Penn State (UDFA type, poor man's Anthony Adams)
454. Graham Zug, WR, 6-2, 185, Penn State (he has zero catches in two games this year)

wicket
09-13-2010, 05:47 AM
Great job overall, Gonna comment on the domers a bit.

NOTRE DAME
27. Michael Floyd, WR, 6-3, 220, Notre Dame *
Well known prospect, not the best start of the season but the willingness to work in blocking and stuff is something that scouts will be very content about.
30. Kyle Rudolph, TE, 6-6, 260, Notre Dame *
Every production question will probably be gone after this season. Needs some finetuning but he is a physical freak
120. Armando Allen, RB, 5-11, 200, Notre Dame
Baller, never a starter for a pro team though, rotational guy, good blocker, limited special team value
219. Ian Williams, DT, 6-2, 300, Notre Dame
Very impressive early on on the season, will have helped his stock
248. Dan Wenger, C/OG, 6-4, 300, Notre Dame
Will probably never play football again, not draftable anyway
289. Trevor Robinson, OG, 6-5, 300, Notre Dame *
TRob here is severely underrated if you ask me, one of the better guards in the country. Bit of an underwhelming start to the season though
367. Brian Smith, OLB, 6-3, 240, Notre Dame
Physically talented but he still makes freshman mistakes and nobody is more skilled in getting blocked than BS
445. Darrin Walls, CB, 6-0, 190, Notre Dame
Started the season really well, should probably be a fourth/fifth rounder by now. Physically talented, smooth, quick athlete

Ozzy
09-13-2010, 06:58 AM
Dude I suggest you either start backing up your rankings or you quit posting rankings.

Yes at the start and quickly looked at by the eye it is cool to have a numerical breakdown that divides it up into specific teams with NFL prospects on it.

However when asked, like on your past thread about details regarding your rankings and the prospects you say nothing about it. Thus I seriously question weather the rankings are ripped off, changed a slight bit and then pawned off as your own.

So dude start to back up your rankings. Because if you do not, clearly anyone on this earth that uses a computer can edit copy edit past and slightly change any of the tons of free rankings out there on the internet.



Note my point
*Marcell Dareus at #67 is one of the dumbest rankings ever, that kid is a star and easily a top 15 pick, tell me why he is not?

*Janoris Jenkins #81 is a joke, that kid has 1st round potential.

*Nick freaking Toon is the 61st best player in the nation, give me a break.

*Mason Foster is the 395th best player in the country? Really, that bad?

*Darren Evans hell the number 102# at running back, right because he is such a star huh?

*Ryan Kerrigan #121, sure, when he might be a 1st round pick, he is that low, sure.


Again yes it is neat to look at and see, but once you look at it closer I highly doubt it is even your list much less you know all of these prospects. Sorry but that is my opinion until proven or defended otherwise by you sir.

BigBanger
09-13-2010, 08:04 AM
34. Prince Amukamara, CB, 6-1, 200, Nebraska

58. Jack Crawford, DE/OLB, 6-5, 256, Penn State *

121. Ryan Kerrigan, DE/OLB, 6-4, 263, Purdue

229. Jimmy Smith, CB/S, 6-2, 210, Colorado
If you watch Crawford and then watch Kerrigan, you will notice a significant difference. One being: Kerrigan can actually play. Crawford? Cannot. Kerrigan is a legit top 10 prospect. I think he has 6 TFL in the first two games. Same old, same old. Crawford was a ghost against Alabama. He got blocked out every single play. Literally, every one. He was atrocious. Pushed around all night.

Amukamara is very low. He is a top 5 caliber prospect.

Jimmy Smith... I just wanted to quote that one.

shylo3716
09-13-2010, 11:53 AM
Where did you get this list from, did you make it up yourself? If not can you please post the link?

Day One Pick
09-13-2010, 05:59 PM
Dude I suggest you either start backing up your rankings or you quite posting rankings.

Yes at the start and quickly looked at by the eye it is cool to have a numerical breakdown that divides it up into specific teams with NFL prospects on it.

However when asked, like on your past thread about details regarding your rankings and the prospects you say nothing about it. Thus I seriously question weather the rankings are ripped off, changed a slight bit and then pawned off as your own.

So dude start to back up your rankings. Because if you do not, clearly anyone on this earth that uses a computer can edit copy edit past and slightly change any of the tons of free rankings out there on the internet.



Note my point
*Marcell Dareus at #67 is one of the dumbest rankings ever, that kid is a star and easily a top 15 pick, tell me why he is not?

*Janoris Jenkins #81 is a joke, that kid has 1st round potential.

*Nick freaking Toon is the 61st best player in the nation, give me a break.

*Mason Foster is the 395th best player in the country? Really, that bad?

*Darren Evans hell the number 102# at running back, right because he is such a star huh?

*Ryan Kerrigan #121, sure, when he might be a 1st round pick, he is that low, sure.


Again yes it is neat to look at and see, but once you look at it closer I highly doubt it is even your list much less you know all of these prospects. Sorry but that is my opinion until proven or defended otherwise by you sir.

I respond and backup my rankings when I'm asked in a decent way. The way you come at me doesn't deserve a reply, sorry.

Day One Pick
09-13-2010, 06:03 PM
Where did you get this list from, did you make it up yourself? If not can you please post the link?

My lists. I start in February each year putting together my rankings. At this point there's a lot that will change. Right now it's mostly about getting prospects on the radar in a somewhat reasonable order. I have months and months to work on things, so nobody should get too bent over anything. Anyone who knows anything about the draft should know that taking matter of fact about prospects being too high or too low at this point is very premature.

Ozzy
09-13-2010, 06:21 PM
I respond and backup my rankings when I'm asked in a decent way. The way you come at me doesn't deserve a reply, sorry.That is a complete cop out.... However do as you wish.

Marcell will enjoy being a top 20 selection whenever he decides to come out for the draft. ;o)


Enjoy the season.

Day One Pick
09-13-2010, 06:30 PM
That is a complete cop out.... However do as you wish.

Marcell will enjoy being a top 20 selection whenever he decides to come out for the draft. ;o)


Enjoy the season.

So his 4 career starts have cemented him in the top 20? That's interesting for a lot of reasons. He's a defensive end at Alabama who excells as a pass rusher. The problem is, he doesn't have the body to be a NFL DE. He'll be a DT, which makes him a projection pick. That devalues him in it's self. Then you look at the number of true NFLish DE's in this class and the true NFLish DT's in this class...why take Dareus ahead of them? Dareus make a couple of "splash plays" in the National Championship and people are making him out to be something he's not. Honestly, your opinion of Dareus tells me all I need to know about you. You just assume the consensus is the gospel.

I ranked Everette Brown 43rd overall when people thought he was a top 10-15 pick for many of the same reasons I just mentioned about Dareus.

shylo3716
09-13-2010, 06:34 PM
My lists. I start in February each year putting together my rankings. At this point there's a lot that will change. Right now it's mostly about getting prospects on the radar in a somewhat reasonable order. I have months and months to work on things, so nobody should get too bent over anything. Anyone who knows anything about the draft should know that taking matter of fact about prospects being too high or too low at this point is very premature.

Well since you took the time out to do this you get a +rep from me.....Thanks for helping me know what players are on the draft radar I really appreciate the time & effort you took out to do this.

Ozzy
09-13-2010, 06:42 PM
So his 4 career starts have cemented him in the top 20? That's interesting for a lot of reasons. He's a defensive end at Alabama who excells as a pass rusher. The problem is, he doesn't have the body to be a NFL DE. He'll be a DT, which makes him a projection pick. That devalues him in it's self. Then you look at the number of true NFLish DE's in this class and the true NFLish DT's in this class...why take Dareus ahead of them? Dareus make a couple of "splash plays" in the National Championship and people are making him out to be something he's not. Honestly, your opinion of Dareus tells me all I need to know about you. You just assume the consensus is the gospel.

I ranked Everette Brown 43rd overall when people thought he was a top 10-15 pick for many of the same reasons I just mentioned about Dareus.That wasn't so hard now was it, nice to hear your side of things. Good input, I disagree with it though. A 3/4 DE, he cannot become? How exactly?

The reasons I liked him, yes he had a fine National Title game but if you look at in the past, I talked about him long before that time. I like his bull rushing ability and ability to collapse the pocket. I believe he is absolutely elite in that regard and think he could easily be a star DE in a 3/4 or a very good DT in a 4/3. As for the consensus issue, I do not read others rankings, I follow players that I like, and like talking about prospects. I do not go on this site to look at his rankings or anyone elses, just a place to talk prospects with some people that follow it like I do.

Thanks for the input and that is why I ask these things. Because, I say again, for the discussion of prospects which is the entire point. Even though doing this indepth scouting not professionally in many ways is a total waste of time. .... but it sure is fun ;o)

Day One Pick
09-13-2010, 06:43 PM
Well since you took the time out to do this you get a +rep from me.....Thanks for helping me know what players are on the draft radar I really appreciate the time & effort you took out to do this.

No problem. Thank you for appreciating the fact that this did take a lot of time and effort.

Day One Pick
09-13-2010, 06:51 PM
That wasn't so hard now was it, nice to hear your side of things. Good input, I disagree with it though. A 3/4 DE, he cannot become? How exactly?

The reasons I liked him, yes he had a fine National Title game but if you look at in the past, I talked about him long before that time. I like his bull rushing ability and ability to collapse the pocket. I believe he is absolutely elite in that regard and think he could easily be a star DE in a 3/4 or a very good DT in a 4/3. As for the consensus issue, I do not read others rankings, I follow players that I like, and like talking about prospects. I do not go on this site to look at his rankings or anyone elses, just a place to talk prospects with some people that follow it like I do.

Thanks for the input and that is why I ask these things. Because, I say again, for the discussion of prospects which is the entire point. Even though doing this indepth scouting not professionally in many ways is a total waste of time. .... but it sure is fun ;o)

He could be a 3-4 DE maybe. But I wasn't talking about that when I mentioned his strenght as rushing the passer, but noted he lacks an NFLish DE body. Even as a 3-4 DE, he's on the low side of the measuring stick because of his height. When he's measured at the combine, expect to see him around 6-2, 290 (which may actually help his case as a DT). Just wondering, how often do you see a 3-4 DE go in the top 20? If you were the GM of a 3-4 team, why would you take Dareus over Jared Crick, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Heyward, Allen Bailey, or Cameron Jordan just to name a few?

He's at best a mid 2nd rounder right now.

keylime_5
09-13-2010, 06:58 PM
mike brewster i don't think should be rated 13th or whatever. If he entered the draft this year I think he'd be like a 7th round pick or UDFA....and Chekwa and Saine would probably be 3rd and 5th round picks or in that whereabouts respectively. Those guys have the speed that will get them taken high.

Ozzy
09-13-2010, 07:04 PM
He could be a 3-4 DE maybe. But I wasn't talking about that when I mentioned his strenght as rushing the passer, but noted he lacks an NFLish DE body. Even as a 3-4 DE, he's on the low side of the measuring stick because of his height. When he's measured at the combine, expect to see him around 6-2, 290 (which may actually help his case as a DT). Just wondering, how often do you see a 3-4 DE go in the top 20? If you were the GM of a 3-4 team, why would you take Dareus over Jared Crick, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Heyward, Allen Bailey, or Cameron Jordan just to name a few?

He's at best a mid 2nd rounder right now.True, but what if he does not come out this season? Things change a lot. And you are talking Cameron Jordan from Cal? I have not seen him yet this year but did not know he was playing that well to be a 1st round draft pick. As for Bailey I have a lot of questions about his ability to get off blocks. But again I think it is a big IF to say Dareus will not be able to play DT. But yes it all depends on what team you are talking about, and yes many teams I doubt would even want Heyward at DE in a 3/4, they would rather have him as a DT in a 4/3. As for Crick yes as a natural 4/3 DT he is probably top but one could argue Dareus is behind him.

Then again Dareus might have some character issues, who knows, clearly did something wrong earlier this year. But yes it is all up in the air, but again I feel his ability to crush the pocket and his flat out strength at defensive line is very rare and he is very elite.

And especially if he waits a year, next year with the SOPH and FR class, he is even more elite. Thus that is why I said when "he decides" to come out and draft wise he would be smart to stay for another year at Bama.

shylo3716
09-13-2010, 08:43 PM
No problem. Thank you for appreciating the fact that this did take a lot of time and effort.

I will use this thread as my Big Board until you update it for my future mock reference.....How often & when will you update this list? The rankings are subject to change.

Day One Pick
09-14-2010, 05:26 AM
I will use this thread as my Big Board until you update it for my future mock reference.....How often & when will you update this list? The rankings are subject to change.

You will be better off using this thread...
http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42386

It has my positional rankings and overall rankings. I edited the thread this morning with my updated rankings.

Day One Pick
09-14-2010, 05:30 AM
True, but what if he does not come out this season? Things change a lot. And you are talking Cameron Jordan from Cal? I have not seen him yet this year but did not know he was playing that well to be a 1st round draft pick. As for Bailey I have a lot of questions about his ability to get off blocks. But again I think it is a big IF to say Dareus will not be able to play DT. But yes it all depends on what team you are talking about, and yes many teams I doubt would even want Heyward at DE in a 3/4, they would rather have him as a DT in a 4/3. As for Crick yes as a natural 4/3 DT he is probably top but one could argue Dareus is behind him.

Then again Dareus might have some character issues, who knows, clearly did something wrong earlier this year. But yes it is all up in the air, but again I feel his ability to crush the pocket and his flat out strength at defensive line is very rare and he is very elite.

And especially if he waits a year, next year with the SOPH and FR class, he is even more elite. Thus that is why I said when "he decides" to come out and draft wise he would be smart to stay for another year at Bama.

I dpn't think you understood me. I didn't say he wouldn't be able to play DT, I just said why would a team take him over a natural DT in the upper end of the draft.

You doubt teams would want Heyward as a 3-4 DE? Why, he's a prototype 3-4 DE. He's actually not a very great 4-3 DE IMO. 3-4 DE and DT are his two best fits IMO.

Ozzy
09-14-2010, 07:54 AM
I dpn't think you understood me. I didn't say he wouldn't be able to play DT, I just said why would a team take him over a natural DT in the upper end of the draft.

You doubt teams would want Heyward as a 3-4 DE? Why, he's a prototype 3-4 DE. He's actually not a very great 4-3 DE IMO. 3-4 DE and DT are his two best fits IMO.In terms of Heyward it is because I feel he is better as a penetrator and does not take up blocks that well and is not as strong as he should be. He is a big long lineman, uses ok quickness for a tackle and gets up field with his leverage. I view a 3/4 defensive end as a stronger more powerful player that holds blocks. Sure Heyward could play a 3/4 DE but I feel he would be more dangerous as a 4/3 tackle potentially. Might be a little long, the guy seems to have a massive wing span and I would want to tack advantage of that. And when Heyward is out as a defensive end, I feel he is not as effective so far in games when compared to being put at defensive tackle. As a defensive tackle he is potentially fast and uses his leverage, at a 4/3 defensive end he is slow and not very quick at times.

As for Dareus I bet he could make a case right now to starting on the Patriots, Steelers and the Dolphins much less a few more 3/4 defensive teams. And if you are talking a natural 3/4 DE I would put Dareus over Heyward in that regard right now.

Still a lot could change though and it is all projection at this point.