View Full Version : Reggie Bush's leg fractured?
J-Mike88
09-21-2010, 10:55 AM
Sources: Reggie Bush has leg fracture
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5598337
That was a weird injury, and didn't look good. Not your normal knee injury though. he seemed safe laying down flat, but the big man just crushed him and that leg.
New Orleans Saints running back Reggie Bush has a fractured fibula in his right leg, sources tell ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
The injury is not expected to end Bush's season, sources said, indicating he could return in four to six weeks. More tests were scheduled for Tuesday.
Addict
09-21-2010, 10:56 AM
according to PFT it could be the fibula?
MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-21-2010, 10:57 AM
Schefter says it's not season-ending on Twitter. Hopefully he can get back to full health in time for the stretch run, he adds a whole new dimension to that Saints offense.
J-Mike88
09-21-2010, 11:01 AM
according to PFT it could be the fibula?
It looked ugly on slow mo, that's all I know.
And 4 weeks is ridiculously over-optimistic.
It will be closer to 8 weeks than 4, and could be longer than 8 games.
Ryan Grant, gone.
Leonard Weaver, gone.
Justin Harrell, gone.
Kris Jenkins, gone.
Jamal Jackson, gone.
Reggie Buish, gone.
Ryan Mathews, ?
I'm forgetting many.... who else?
Addict
09-21-2010, 11:03 AM
Stafford's gonna gone another 3-4 games
NY+Giants=NYG
09-21-2010, 11:04 AM
Oh look, Bush is hurt... again. How many times has he been hurt in his career? It seems like this is a yearly thing, I could be wrong though.
Jimmy
09-21-2010, 11:06 AM
can someone explain to me how he can fracture his leg and only be out a month and a half?
Splat
09-21-2010, 11:09 AM
So much for that break out season...
Addict
09-21-2010, 11:10 AM
So much for that break out season...
I see what you did there.
J-Mike88
09-21-2010, 11:10 AM
Scouts Inc. guru Matt Williamson.
“This is not good news for a guy whose whole game is based on his speed and quickness,’’ Williamson said. “He’s had leg injuries before and he’s never been a quick healer. Even when he’s come back, it generally has been at least a couple of games before he really gets into a rhythm. It’s really too bad because, going back to last year’s playoffs, through the preseason and into the start of the regular season, he was looking healthier than he had in a long time and he was running very well. This is going to hurt the Saints in a lot of ways.’’
“Nobody else in the league has a guy quite like him,’’ Williamson said. “He’s so unique. He’s a running back who makes everyone else around him better and usually it’s the other way around. He’s so instrumental in making a defense declare what it’s doing because you can put him in motion and find out exactly what the defense is going to do. Now, it’s going to be a lot harder for the Saints to scheme things.’’
yourfavestoner
09-21-2010, 11:10 AM
can someone explain to me how he can fracture his leg and only be out a month and a half?
Um, because six weeks is the standard healing time for fractured bones. It's not like it was a compound fracture (bone broken all the way through), a ligament tear, or a muscle tear.
Also, if it's the fibula, he'll probably be back before six weeks. The fibula is a non-weight bearing bone in the leg. Guys have played with broken/fractured fibulas before, it's not a new thing.
Sucks for Reggie. I'm prob his biggest critic, but I've been seeing a burst and decisiveness out of him this year that I hadn't seen yet. I think this injury all but guarantees he won't be in NO next year, unless he agrees to a hefty salary reduction.
Bengals78
09-21-2010, 11:14 AM
Um, because six weeks is the standard healing time for fractured bones. It's not like it was a compound fracture (bone broken all the way through), a ligament tear, or a muscle tear.
Also, if it's the fibula, he'll probably be back before six weeks. The fibula is a non-weight bearing bone in the leg. Guys have played with broken/fractured fibulas before, it's not a new thing.
Sucks for Reggie. I'm prob his biggest critic, but I've been seeing a burst and decisiveness out of him this year that I hadn't seen yet. I think this injury all but guarantees he won't be in NO next year, unless he agrees to a hefty salary reduction.
Tell him to throw some dirt on it and get back out there. Damn Nancies!
Gay Ork Wang
09-21-2010, 11:24 AM
So much for that break out season...
make or break season really
BuddyCHRIST
09-21-2010, 11:29 AM
I'm a Saints fan, and Reggie is important to the offense. But his impact is still very overblown. He does some good things in the receiving game and creates some matchup problems, but he is no where near to the most important person to that offense. Pierre Thomas is way better at running the ball, and a pretty good receiver in his own right.
If anything I feel like the Saints run into trouble when we try to get too fancy and go away from the running game which is very effective. I think we'll miss him most as a punt returner.
The only reason I really felt the need to say this is all the people on SC talking about how much he impacts the Saints offense.
Saints-Tigers
09-21-2010, 11:31 AM
Oh look, Bush is hurt... again. How many times has he been hurt in his career? It seems like this is a yearly thing, I could be wrong though.
He's been hurt every year, or recovering at the least =/
Sucks for Reggie. I'm prob his biggest critic, but I've been seeing a burst and decisiveness out of him this year that I hadn't seen yet. I think this injury all but guarantees he won't be in NO next year, unless he agrees to a hefty salary reduction.
:(
yourfavestoner
09-21-2010, 11:33 AM
I'm a Saints fan, and Reggie is important to the offense. But his impact is still very overblown. He does some good things in the receiving game and creates some matchup problems, but he is no where near to the most important person to that offense. Pierre Thomas is way better at running the ball, and a pretty good receiver in his own right.
If anything I feel like the Saints run into trouble when we try to get too fancy and go away from the running game which is very effective. I think we'll miss him most as a punt returner.
The only reason I really felt the need to say this is all the people on SC talking about how much he impacts the Saints offense.
It's been said many, many times on this board: he's the highest paid decoy in the league.
Saints-Tigers
09-21-2010, 11:36 AM
I, and most everyone, even the biggest critics, feel like Bush hasn't been getting enough carries for a while now, especially when Thomas isn't running well.
NY+Giants=NYG
09-21-2010, 11:49 AM
He's been hurt every year, or recovering at the least =/
:(
That's what I thought, but wasn't totally 100% sure. He is a good player, but I never have been a fan of his in the NFL. I thought he was drafted way to high and cost a lot of money based on what you saw in college.
Saints-Tigers
09-21-2010, 11:53 AM
That's what I thought, but wasn't totally 100% sure. He is a good player, but I never have been a fan of his in the NFL. I thought he was drafted way to high and cost a lot of money based on what you saw in college.
My real problem is right now, is that this is his second injury on a punt return freak accident, and he's had a bad injury on a reverse before too. Keep it simple Payton?
It's so frustrating, because you definitely want him returning punts, I mean, everytime there is any space he's taking it deep, but this is the second time he will miss significant time because of returning punts.
Michigan
09-21-2010, 11:56 AM
hopefully this convinces teams to never spend top 5 picks on RB's...
yourfavestoner
09-21-2010, 11:59 AM
hopefully this convinces teams to never spend top 5 picks on RB's...
You mean never spend top five picks on runningbacks who don't have absolutely dominant skillsets, like Adrian Peterson.
Reggie Bush had ridiculous production in college, but there's a guy with his exact skillset in every draft, and he usually goes about three rounds lower than Bush did.
NY+Giants=NYG
09-21-2010, 12:00 PM
My real problem is right now, is that this is his second injury on a punt return freak accident, and he's had a bad injury on a reverse before too. Keep it simple Payton?
It's so frustrating, because you definitely want him returning punts, I mean, everytime there is any space he's taking it deep, but this is the second time he will miss significant time because of returning punts.
Well he has to play special teams at least. The hype for Bush coming out was so extreme. He was basically an RB who can catch the ball, AND be a force on special teams. Evidence of this was what he did in college. And so he was drafted early, and paid a lot of money.
But now he is not a full time RB, and if that's the case he has to impact on special teams. So even if he gets hurt, keep playing him there. If you want to save him him from that, then at least be a full time RB, and maybe have another RB to take some reps. But make Bush the feature back then.
See the problem he is too brittle. I knew this when he was coming out. I knew injury issues would plague him in some capacity doing something, be it being an RB or playing special teams.
Saints-Tigers
09-21-2010, 12:10 PM
The team has doubts about giving him a full work load, because of things like this. Can't say I blame them. They've been wanting to increase his work load, since most of last year he was nearing 6 yards per carry, and running a lot better, but they are hesitant.
Still, there have been smaller and less well put together backs that don't get injured, and carry a much bigger load. Hell, Chris Johnson is a little taller, and even thinner and just came off close to 400 touches, after being injury plagued in college(where Reggie had none of any significance).
I'm no doctor, so I really don't know why some guys get hurt more than others, just seems like bad luck with some of them, like that was really a freak play.
NY+Giants=NYG
09-21-2010, 12:14 PM
The team has doubts about giving him a full work load, because of things like this. Can't say I blame them. They've been wanting to increase his work load, since most of last year he was nearing 6 yards per carry, and running a lot better, but they are hesitant.
Still, there have been smaller and less well put together backs that don't get injured, and carry a much bigger load. Hell, Chris Johnson is a little taller, and even thinner and just came off close to 400 touches, after being injury plagued in college(where Reggie had none of any significance).
I'm no doctor, so I really don't know why some guys get hurt more than others, just seems like bad luck with some of them, like that was really a freak play.
Yeah, that's why I really don't like Bush. That whole USC team, from a skill player, point of view are having issues.
Matt L = Bust
Reggie Bush = overrated
Dwayne Jarret = slow progression
L. White = stagnant
In that regard I am glad we drafted Steve Smith.
That team was like an NFL team in college, and now some of those key guys are struggling.
Saints-Tigers
09-21-2010, 12:19 PM
How can Bush be overrated, almost everyone here thinks he sucks, doesn't do anything well, and makes us worse.
Addict
09-21-2010, 12:29 PM
Bush was overrated as an NFL running back coming out, but I think that most guys on here realize full well that he's a unique weapon.
Saints-Tigers
09-21-2010, 12:35 PM
I think he's at the point where he could be the player he was "supposed" to be, if his body would hold up, which doesn't seem likely at this point.
NY+Giants=NYG
09-21-2010, 12:54 PM
You draft someone # 2 to do the regular stuff, play special teams, and then be unique. At that draft slot, and the money you get paid for it, you want everything. Basically the hype coming out for him you'd expect, Adrian Peterson or CJ type RB, with Devon Hester type special teams impact, and then the other stuff he can do well. That's what he did in college, and what you expect when you draft him # 2.
He isn't an every down back, he is a unique weapon, and he does play special teams, but also is injury prone too. So does he warrant being a # 2 pick? I don't think so, but he was highly productive in college, and that a lot of those USC players have flopped from that team.
Matt L
Dwayne Jarrett
LenDale White
Dominque Byrd TE
Frostee Rucker DE
Darnell Bing
Fred Matua
Winston Justice
Lawrence Jackson DE
Michigan
09-21-2010, 01:45 PM
He isn't an every down back, he is a unique weapon, and he does play special teams, but also is injury prone too. So does he warrant being a # 2 pick? I don't think so, but he was highly productive in college, and that a lot of those USC players have flopped from that team.
Matt L
Dwayne Jarrett
LenDale White
Dominque Byrd TE
Frostee Rucker DE
Darnell Bing
Fred Matua
Winston Justice
Lawrence Jackson DE
But ESPN told me this was the greatest CFB team of all time! :(
NY+Giants=NYG
09-21-2010, 02:33 PM
But ESPN told me this was the greatest CFB team of all time! :(
They may be right, but when you have an NFL caliber team playing college teams you're usually going to get good production. Wasn't Matt L a highly successful AND productive QB? How about D. Jarrett? These are all highly productive college players, who are not even avg.
yourfavestoner
09-21-2010, 03:00 PM
They may be right, but when you have an NFL caliber team playing college teams you're usually going to get good production. Wasn't Matt L a highly successful AND productive QB? How about D. Jarrett? These are all highly productive college players, who are not even avg.
Offensive line:
Sam Baker, Fred Matua, Ryan Kalil, Deuce Lutui, and Winston Justice
That's the reason USC was so damn good. Two bookend tackles who have developed into very good pros, and a center whose probably #2 in the NFL behind Mangold. Lutui was having a decent career as well until he got his extension and ballooned up this year. The only one that washed out of the pros was Matua, and he was still drafted.
Vox Populi
09-21-2010, 03:29 PM
Offensive line:
Sam Baker, Fred Matua, Ryan Kalil, Deuce Lutui, and Winston Justice
That's the reason USC was so damn good. Two bookend tackles who have developed into very good pros, and a center whose probably #2 in the NFL behind Mangold. Lutui was having a decent career as well until he got his extension and ballooned up this year. The only one that washed out of the pros was Matua, and he was still drafted.
USC's ******* ridiculous downfield blocking had more to do with Reggie's success than the line. I'd credit them for Lendale though, and a lot of Leinart with the rest going to the 6'5 receivers rofling at the pac-10 corners.
SenorGato
09-21-2010, 03:50 PM
I was bashing that USC team's NFL potential back before it was cool. I'm really hip and smart like that. Pretty much the only guys I really liked were on the OL, and even then I managed to underrate Baker.
TitanHope
09-21-2010, 07:01 PM
Also, if it's the fibula, he'll probably be back before six weeks. The fibula is a non-weight bearing bone in the leg. Guys have played with broken/fractured fibulas before, it's not a new thing.[/b]
This is true. You don't even your fibula. Had mine removed years ago.
NotRickJames
09-21-2010, 07:17 PM
I saw a stat on football outsiders. From 2006-2009, the Saints averaged 25.3 ppg with Reggie Bush in the lineup and 32.7 ppg with him unavailable due to injury (not including the postseason).
This is a minor loss, but only a minor one. His impact is definitely overrated. And besides, if Chris Ivory beasts as much as I think he will, this could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
diabsoule
09-21-2010, 07:26 PM
I have liked what I had been seeing from Reggie lately from the NFC Championship game until now. His absence leaves us precariously thin at running back and we will lose a dynamic part of the offense. With that being said, our offense was just as good, if not, better during the games when he was out. We'll see if that trend continues.
Saints-Tigers
09-23-2010, 12:05 AM
What is funny is that we have been pedestrian the last few weeks, averaging like 20 through the first 2 games. Now Reggie will miss 4 weeks, and we'll average like 30+ and people will go "ZOMG they average way more without him!" even though he was getting a criminally low amount of touches.
Pierre Thomas will pick up his 3 yard per carry average and we will conclude that he is a much better player when Ivory/Betts sub in for him, and not Reggie, lol.
LonghornsLegend
09-23-2010, 01:09 AM
But ESPN told me this was the greatest CFB team of all time! :(
Even though that segment was ridiculous, and nowhere close to being true, whether or not those guys panned out in the NFL really has no bearing on how you would rank them as a College team.
Saints-Tigers
09-23-2010, 01:57 AM
I picked TExas before that game, but I wonder if Texas would have won if ESPN didn't dog them out for a month and light a bonfire under their ass.
LonghornsLegend
09-23-2010, 09:36 AM
I picked TExas before that game, but I wonder if Texas would have won if ESPN didn't dog them out for a month and light a bonfire under their ass.
That's a good point, but then again if Reggie didn't try to do the dumbest mid-air lateral I've ever seen in my life Texas could have still lost anyway. I bought that game on DVD from a BCS website somewhere and still watch it every now and then. Greatest CFB I've ever seen, don't know how long until something tops it for me.
J-Mike88
09-23-2010, 03:54 PM
I bought that game on DVD from a BCS website somewhere and still watch it every now and then. Greatest CFB I've ever seen, don't know how long until something tops it for me.
I have it too, and it was the best, most exciting big game in CFB I can ever remember. Boise St & Oklahoma was a great game, but wasn't for all the marbles.
Two Heisman winners on one side, Vince Young on the other.
VY truely felt he deserved the Heisman, and who can blame him. He carried that team on his shoulders.
VY proved to me in that game that he was right, that he deserved the Heisman.
CC.SD
09-23-2010, 05:14 PM
I whip my leg back and forth.
Saints-Tigers
09-23-2010, 06:18 PM
Seriously, that's the best football game I've watched period, and I'm a far far far bigger fan of the pro game.
thenewfeature06
09-23-2010, 06:58 PM
Karma is a ***** lol. Sure he is dynamic but not an all out star. Still hurts the chances of the Saints going back to back whether they believe it or not.
Flyboy
09-24-2010, 12:33 AM
That's a good point, but then again if Reggie didn't try to do the dumbest mid-air lateral I've ever seen in my life Texas could have still lost anyway. I bought that game on DVD from a BCS website somewhere and still watch it every now and then. Greatest CFB I've ever seen, don't know how long until something tops it for me.
For sure, one of the greatest football games I have ever witnessed and I didn't even get to watch the entire game. The game was just pure greatness.
fenikz
09-24-2010, 01:15 AM
Offensive line:
Sam Baker, Fred Matua, Ryan Kalil, Deuce Lutui, and Winston Justice
That's the reason USC was so damn good. Two bookend tackles who have developed into very good pros, and a center whose probably #2 in the NFL behind Mangold. Lutui was having a decent career as well until he got his extension and ballooned up this year. The only one that washed out of the pros was Matua, and he was still drafted.
he didn't get an extension and he has always been around 360, but he did come into camp at 400 until Lott worked his ass over
yourfavestoner
09-24-2010, 10:21 AM
Bush was overrated as an NFL running back coming out, but I think that most guys on here realize full well that he's a unique weapon.
How unique is he, really? I mean, completely forget what he did at USC or where he was drafted, because it's irrelevant at this point. Does he really give their offense anything that a guy like Darren Sproles, Leon Washington, or Kevin Faulk in his prime? Probably not. He's definitely not as dynamic of a weapon as Brian Westbrook or Marshall Faulk were in their primes. Those were unique weapons.
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