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tEk
10-14-2010, 02:42 AM
Whats up everyone?

anyways down to the reason for my post.

My fiance and I have moved out with my good friend and his g/f 2 1/2 months ago, who are now expecting a baby in a month or so.

He had a ****** job and could only afford to give me $250 bucks a month and i said that was fine until he got a better job. so basically i pay 1000 a month for a 2bdr apt and feed them(not part of the deal)

now he has a better job and still shorts me every month and him and his g/f leave dirty dishes and dont clean **** around my apt. they have been avoiding me for the past week(sleep in till i we leave for work, and come home after we go to bed) because they know im pissed.

my g/f and i are the only ones on the lease... i just want them to move out and be done with it.

serious advise wanted. comedic responses will numb the headache

p.s. i live in california

Mr. Goosemahn
10-14-2010, 03:41 AM
Whats up everyone?

anyways down to the reason for my post.

My fiance and I have moved out with my good friend and his g/f 2 1/2 months ago, who are now expecting a baby in a month or so.

He had a ****** job and could only afford to give me $250 bucks a month and i said that was fine until he got a better job. so basically i pay 1000 a month for a 2bdr apt and feed them(not part of the deal)

now he has a better job and still shorts me every month and him and his g/f leave dirty dishes and dont clean **** around my apt. they have been avoiding me for the past week(sleep in till i we leave for work, and come home after we go to bed) because they know im pissed.

my g/f and i are the only ones on the lease... i just want them to move out and be done with it.

serious advise wanted. comedic responses will numb the headache

p.s. i live in california

Give him some kind of ultimatum, saying that if he doesn't pay up soon he'll have no place to start raising his baby. Also, start buying food only for you and your fiancée, tell them it's not theirs and they can't take any.

If you really want him to pay or be gone, and quickly, maybe change the locks one day when they're out without telling them, making it clear that the only way he'll come inside is paying up. If he still doesn't pay up, then just neatly put all their things outside and force him to move elsewhere. Like you said, only you and your fiancée are contractually attached to the apartment, there's nothing he can do about that.

I know some of these things sound a bit harsh or extreme, but a friend of mine once had a roommate who used his credit card to order stuff for a couple months. My friend knew someone wa stealing from him, but never suspected his roommate. He didn't tell him he knew, but one day he came back home to find all his things packed and waiting in the hallway.

Again, a bit harsh, but it was something that he felt he had to do and it worked for him.

thefalconer
10-14-2010, 05:06 AM
someone had a post similar to this a week or two ago.

you gotta be tough on him. you two must be good buds but if he's taking advantage of you and not being a man about it, you need to let him know you're not messing around. the real world is a ***** and the last thing you need is someone mooching off your hard earned money. don't think you're coming off as petty or being too harsh on a friend. he's exploiting the fact that you did him a huge favor. you don't need friends like that.

CJSchneider
10-14-2010, 05:33 AM
Yeah, I don't think there is a gentle, magic, easy fix for this situation. You pretty much have to "lay it all on the table" so to speak. Tell him how you feel and how it has to be.

Caddy
10-14-2010, 05:36 AM
Yeah CJ is 100% right. You have to tell them how it is. Friends don't do that to friends.

Razor
10-14-2010, 07:14 AM
This is why I live alone. Also what CJ said.

nepg
10-14-2010, 08:11 AM
If you really want him to pay or be gone, and quickly, maybe change the locks one day when they're out without telling them, making it clear that the only way he'll come inside is paying up. If he still doesn't pay up, then just neatly put all their things outside and force him to move elsewhere. Like you said, only you and your fiancée are contractually attached to the apartment, there's nothing he can do about that.

Yeah, you can't do that... Once someone has established residency, you can't not let them in. You have to give him a formal notice of eviction and then he has 1-3 months to move out before you can change locks and put his **** in the hall/street/whereever.

Eviction notice might be the way to go anyway. It's formal and gets all the points across...plus you'll need it anyway if things don't shape up.

RAVENS/WIZARDS/ORIOLES
10-14-2010, 08:13 AM
http://www.gossipgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/judge-mathis.jpg

vikes_28
10-14-2010, 10:22 AM
I kind of have a fear of living with people other than my brother. My brother is someone I know I can trust. The Job that I've most recently taken has taught me to have a back-bone. So I don't think It would be an issue for me in the future.

thefalconer
10-14-2010, 11:25 AM
Yeah, you can't do that... Once someone has established residency, you can't not let them in. You have to give him a formal notice of eviction and then he has 1-3 months to move out before you can change locks and put his **** in the hall/street/whereever.

Eviction notice might be the way to go anyway. It's formal and gets all the points across...plus you'll need it anyway if things don't shape up.

as long as his friend isn't aware of this, it's fine.

FlyingElvis
10-14-2010, 11:33 AM
Yeah, you can't do that... Once someone has established residency, you can't not let them in. You have to give him a formal notice of eviction and then he has 1-3 months to move out before you can change locks and put his **** in the hall/street/whereever.

Eviction notice might be the way to go anyway. It's formal and gets all the points across...plus you'll need it anyway if things don't shape up.

He's not the landlord so it's a gray area.

However, from what I understand, CA is waaayyy liberal about this type of thing and you could have zero power to get rid of your leacherous friend.

Be straight with him, redefine what needs to happen, and toss them both if a reasonable resolution can't be reached. As others have mentioned, homeboy doesn't sound like a friend at all.

brat316
10-14-2010, 11:39 AM
And there is nothing formally written that he can stay there.

Another approach tEk, move out, or tell him that you are thinking of moving out the apt in the next month. Judge what his reaction to this is, and then proceed from there. If he goes, but whhyyy? Tell him to pay you or GTFO. Or look for another apt for reals.


Also where is your avy from Falconer.

StripedWalrus
10-14-2010, 11:41 AM
does your landlord know that these people are living there despite not being on the lease? Alot of leases specify how long someone other than leasers can stay in a dwelling...if they have been staying there longer than that period you could be in violation of the lease and get in trouble with your landlord (if they don't know about it) Also since your "roommate" has been paying towards the rent you would have to provide them with at least a 30 days notice or whatever notice complies to the state of California's laws.

This is where it can get tricky. He doesnt have to leave before that notice...and if he doesnt leave after that notice then you would have to call the police in order to remove that person from the house. This would of course have to run through the landlord and if the landlord didnt know that the other "tenant" had been living there then that could mean you also get evicted because you have broken the lease.

So basically

1. Give your friend a notice.
2a. This may be enough and your friend moves out (end of story)
2b. Your friend gets angry and refuses to move out
3. You have legal rights to be there he does not...call the police
4. Landlord will probably be notified of all this and depending on your relationship and situation this could be good or bad.
5a. Landlord is cool with it all and your friend is evicted (you probably lose a friend)
5b. Landlord is not cool with all this stuff going down and you get evicted and lose a friend.

So basically it all depends on the situation.

brat316
10-14-2010, 11:44 AM
One more thing for comedic relief, don't buy anymore food. Wait till the whole house is empty of food. I mean everything, so you don't suffer start hiding food in your room and eating everything. Now there should be nothing left in the house except what you have hidden. Don't let them know about the hidden food. Now comes the fun part, buy or save 1 last can of soup, something they probably don't like but you don't mind it. Whenever they say there is no food point to the soup...also make sure you have hidden the can opener.

Or leave the can of soup and say who ever is the first one to eat the soup had to buy food for the whole house, restock everything.

There might be some flaws, to this plan. You might have to eat out a little more often for a week or 2. And be really sneaky with eating your hidden food and hiding it.

Don Vito
10-14-2010, 12:01 PM
http://www.dreadgazebo.com/gunporn/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/12gaugepump.jpg

If you want to get someone to pay you, this usually works.

Jvig43
10-14-2010, 12:03 PM
First off, this guy isnt your friend. I understand being close to someone for a long time and then rooming with them, but not only is he mooching off you, hes avoiding you so you wont ask him to actually pay you back or start paying more of the rent and helping out with food. My advice would be to wait for this guy to come home, and confront him about this. I know that sucks and you might have to be harsh with him, but what hes doing is wrong. Dont buy food for him, tell him to get out/have him start paying the thousand with food while you only pay 200 for a few months, or look for a new place. haha but you should just look for a new roommate and have him come by for a tour of the place when your "friend" is home. That'd be hilarious.

TitanHope
10-14-2010, 01:15 PM
"You guys ever see the show Swingers...?"

or

"You know... I've always fantasized about having sex with a pregnant woman..."


Probably best to combine those two for maximum effect.

FlyingElvis
10-14-2010, 01:17 PM
"You guys ever see the show Swingers...?"

or

"You know... I've always fantasized about having sex with a pregnant woman..."


Probably best to combine those two for maximum effect.

I can't believe it took this many posts to get here. Were this another forum I frequent, the first 3 posts would have been PIIDB!!

TitanHope
10-14-2010, 01:30 PM
Yeah, I'm a little slow today. But not only would he be fretting for his wife, but also afraid of you "hittin' baby." Nomsayin'?

thefalconer
10-14-2010, 01:59 PM
Also where is your avy from Falconer.

got if off reddit but it's off some commercial. i thought it was funny at first but it's kinda eh now. i miss my cookie monster avy.

Tffr6Kq-Wug

Bosanac01
10-16-2010, 01:21 PM
Unfortunately people do this all the time. That's why someone always posts a situation like this.

There are people who start being good with you and you let them in. Then say they are going to pay, but after months you didn't receive ****. They pay a $200 for like 2 months and avoid you as long as they possibly can until you kick them out. When they get kicked out, they look to stay somewhere else and do the exact same thing.

They pay like $400 in like a year and a half.

edit: When you notice this is happening, kick them out immediately. The longer you wait the worse it will get.

niel89
10-16-2010, 04:39 PM
Just talk to the straight up to them and tell them to leave. You have all the legal rights on your side.

FlyingElvis, PIIDB is always a top solution.

slightlyaraiderfan
10-16-2010, 05:26 PM
Damn, only $250 for rent? That's crazy, he needs to be grateful and stop avoiding you like a *****, thats telling me he's not going to want to pay more becuase he's your buddy. It could get a bit messy if he's not level headed, but you gotta handle yours.