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D-Unit
10-15-2010, 02:22 PM
It's that time of year again! Get ready for the first Forum Mock of the 2010-11 NFL football season!

If you are interested in being the fantasy GM of your favorite team, and always wanted to be the one making the draft pick decisions for your team in the war room, then this is the event for you! We will hold a mock draft that will last 3 rounds and you can be the GM making picks, working trades with other GMs and ultimately have the responsibility for strengthening your team.

If interested, PM me the following information:

1. Team you want to be GM for. If you're willing to GM other teams, then list them in order of preference.
2. Willingness to work with another poster as a Co-GM.

* As GM you make all the decisions for your team. If you are found to be too inactive, you may be replaced without notice.

* As Co-GM you are responsible for making all the decisions of your team as well. Co-GMs are for people who think they can't be completely active due to scheduling conflicts. It is for coverage first, team work second. If there is a decision to be made, and you are the only one online you will be required to make the decision for your team regardless if your partner is online or not. Holding up decisions to wait for your Co-GM goes against the purpose of having a Co-GM. So be prepared to discuss strategy with your Co-GM in advance and know that either person can/will make sole decisions on their own.

* Trades: Each team is able to make 2 player for player or player for pick(s) or pick(s) for pick(s) trades. You may make a 3rd trade if it is for picks only. No more than 3 trades are allowed.

2011 UFAs cannot be traded.

Trades will be approved by myself, Dirty Thirty and thenewfeature06. Still looking for one more, so if interested please let me know.

Submit your PMs to me and once teams are filled, I will post them below.

Buffalo Bills - redbills
Arizona Cardinals - fenikz
Atlanta Falcons - Bosanac01
Baltimore Ravens  - TACKLE/APS
Carolina Panthers - Hinesward
Chicago Bears - BeerBaron
Cincinnati Bengals - Bengals78
Cleveland Browns - wonderbredd24
Dallas Cowboys - D-Unit (if a Cowboys fan wants to run them, let me know)
Denver Broncos - iBoldin
Detroit Lions - Scotty D
Green Bay Packers - PF 
Houston Texans - Texas Homer
Indianapolis Colts - Seamus2602
Jacksonville Jaguars - prowler
Kansas City Chiefs - vikes_28
Miami Dolphins - draftguru151
Minnesota Vikings - prock
New England Patriots - djp
New Orleans Saints - CJSchneider
New York Giants - LetsGoGiants!/OSUGiants17
New York Jets - Hurricanes25/Derza
Oakland Raiders - newfeature/RaiderNation
Philadelphia Eagles - Go_Eagles77/superman8456
Pittsburgh Steelers - Shane P. Hallam
San Diego Chargers - marshallb
San Francisco 49ers - Mr. Goosemahn
Seattle Seahawks - gpngc
St Louis Rams - holt_bruce81
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - BeerBaron
Tennessee Titans - VoodooMonkey
Washington Redskins - Dirty Thirty

marshallb
10-15-2010, 02:49 PM
I've got one question: what are we using for the draft order?

prock
10-15-2010, 04:09 PM
Can I co-GM the Vikes with marshallb?

BeerBaron
10-15-2010, 04:18 PM
Application submitted. Asked for the Bears, but if another Bears fan really wants them, I offered to take anyone.

Looking forward to this gentleman, as always.

marshallb
10-15-2010, 04:42 PM
Can I co-GM the Vikes with marshallb?

Yea, that'd be good with me. On my application I put that I'd be willing to co-GM with pretty much anyone and then listed a few Vikings fans specifically and you were one of them.

BeerBaron
10-15-2010, 05:20 PM
Just to reinforce it, I'd be willing to switch to a team no one else claimed if another Bears fan really, really wants them.

redbills
10-15-2010, 08:24 PM
the worst team in the nfl sweet.

DiG
10-16-2010, 07:46 AM
spread the word!

redbills
10-16-2010, 08:13 AM
just about any bills player can be had btw.

Hines
10-16-2010, 12:04 PM
Do I have to apply in an email to want to join?

CashmoneyDrew
10-16-2010, 12:37 PM
Can't wait. This is my first one. I have big plans for this.

Bosanac01
10-16-2010, 12:42 PM
I want the falcons.

Scotty D
10-16-2010, 02:30 PM
Prowler is going to co-gm the Lions.

D-Unit
10-16-2010, 04:26 PM
Prowler is going to co-gm the Lions.
I asked him to take a team that doesn't have GM and he said he would.

Chucky
10-16-2010, 04:48 PM
I'm gonna have to go ahead and back at out of this. Sorry, but based on what is happening in the hockey league this year and the basketball league last year I just don't think I will enjoy it. Good luck.

CJSchneider
10-16-2010, 05:13 PM
Saints please :)

djp
10-16-2010, 06:47 PM
New England gets all the picks they actually own, right?

Hines
10-16-2010, 07:38 PM
Are we going to have a depth chart thread and what not?

I'm Carolina.

Texas Homer
10-17-2010, 12:08 AM
I'm in.

Texans!!!!

superman8456
10-17-2010, 09:11 AM
I'll be co-GM of the Eagles.

DiG
10-17-2010, 09:59 AM
yea once we fill well do depth charts threads and the likes.

marshallb
10-17-2010, 11:17 AM
If we're having trouble filling up these last few spots I'll take one of the unfilled teams and let prock handle the Vikings on his own. He said he wouldn't be able to do pretty much anything on here this weekend, but I think that he should be fine for anything after that.

Prowler
10-17-2010, 11:23 AM
i would love to co-gm the lions, but as long as i get a team with a first round pick then we'll be cool......cool but lonely....

D-Unit
10-17-2010, 11:42 AM
If we're having trouble filling up these last few spots I'll take one of the unfilled teams and let prock handle the Vikings on his own. He said he wouldn't be able to do pretty much anything on here this weekend, but I think that he should be fine for anything after that.
I gave you the Seahawks then. If you want another, let me know. Thanks.

D-Unit
10-17-2010, 11:42 AM
i would love to co-gm the lions, but as long as i get a team with a first round pick then we'll be cool......cool but lonely....
I gave you the Jaguars then. If you want another, let me know. Thanks.

marshallb
10-17-2010, 11:50 AM
I gave you the Seahawks then. If you want another, let me know. Thanks.

I'd prefer Chargers or Chiefs, but that'd be fine.

Mr. Goosemahn
10-17-2010, 03:23 PM
I'll take any team still available.

BeerBaron
10-17-2010, 03:29 PM
I'll take any team still available.

Seahawks, Chiefs and 49ers still aren't filled on the first post.

OSUGiants17
10-17-2010, 04:24 PM
Me and LetsGoGiants! agreed that I will be his co-gm

Mr. Goosemahn
10-17-2010, 09:14 PM
Seahawks, Chiefs and 49ers still aren't filled on the first post.

Could I be the 49ers?

fenikz
10-17-2010, 09:25 PM
ill be chiefs or seahawks if no one wants em

BeerBaron
10-17-2010, 09:33 PM
Could I be the 49ers?

PM D-Unit about it.

vikes_28
10-17-2010, 10:02 PM
I'll be the Chiefs. I'll mostly be available via text. I'll give people I know real well my phone number.

D-Unit
10-17-2010, 10:48 PM
OK, all teams have been filled by owners.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43261

Please start posting your depth charts and trade blocks.

Hurricanes25
10-17-2010, 10:51 PM
Derza and I are Co-GMing the Jets.

djp
10-17-2010, 10:57 PM
When will the draft order be up?

D-Unit
10-17-2010, 10:57 PM
If you guys want to chat you can use the chatbox at the top of the main forum. You can use IRC or AIM too if you want to. Trades should be sent via PM to me, Dirty Thirty and thenewfeature06 for approval. You need 2 yes's for your trade to pass.

D-Unit
10-17-2010, 10:59 PM
When will the draft order be up?
No later than tomorrow.

RealityCheck
10-18-2010, 11:11 AM
I'm looking for a co-GM position.

Not that I will get it...

A Perfect Score
10-18-2010, 12:31 PM
For those of you who use IRC, #ForumMock is where we should meet to discuss and such. Also, if people check in there its easier to keep things running once the draft actually begins going. I forget where the instructions for joining IRC are on the forum, if someone knows it would be appreciated.

Hines
10-18-2010, 12:34 PM
I'll have all my stuff up later today.

DiG
10-18-2010, 12:35 PM
yea i was looking this morning for the instructions and couldnt find the thread. im sure its somewhere.

BeerBaron
10-18-2010, 02:07 PM
Are we going to get the Draft order tonight? I'd like to see where I'm picking so I know how many coaches to fire on my Bears in the News thread...

D-Unit
10-18-2010, 02:12 PM
Are we going to get the Draft order tonight? I'd like to see where I'm picking so I know how many coaches to fire on my Bears in the News thread...
The draft order will be based on record, so as soon as MNF is over, then the order will be released.

Does anybody want to help with coming up with the draft order?

D-Unit
10-18-2010, 02:13 PM
For those of you who use IRC, #ForumMock is where we should meet to discuss and such. Also, if people check in there its easier to keep things running once the draft actually begins going. I forget where the instructions for joining IRC are on the forum, if someone knows it would be appreciated.
Just go to www.gamesurge.net, click on "Chat" at the top and sign in.

BeerBaron
10-18-2010, 02:16 PM
The draft order will be based on record, so as soon as MNF is over, then the order will be released.

Does anybody want to help with coming up with the draft order?

I'd be willing to help out. I think to get a realistic one, we need to project a little bit. Like, make sure each division has a team picking in the playoff range and such.

I'll tell you what, I'll start working on an order now based off the teams done so far this week and send it to you for your take....I've got some down time until things get busy later at work anyway. And then we can just switch the Jags/Titans around depending on the winner of tonight's game.

Bosanac01
10-18-2010, 03:09 PM
http://www.gamesurge.net/chat/

- Type your name, then join

- Type /join #forummock, then hit enter

BeerBaron
10-18-2010, 03:11 PM
Submitted what I think is a good, fair order to D-Unit. If he likes it, hopefully we can post it soon tonight.

redbills
10-18-2010, 04:21 PM
most bills can be had

CJSchneider
10-18-2010, 04:27 PM
most bills suck

Sorry bro, had to be done.

Hines
10-18-2010, 04:29 PM
DWill is on the block.

vikes_28
10-18-2010, 09:23 PM
If anyone needs to contact me, only cause i'm busy as hell, I can get on and post from my phone. just text me at 6053769545

Bosanac01
10-18-2010, 09:24 PM
If anyone needs to contact me, only cause i'm busy as hell, I can get on and post from my phone. just text me at 6053769545

I wouldn't want to waste money on a pay phone to contact you.

marshallb
10-18-2010, 09:57 PM
So what are we gonna do with Vincent Jackson, since it's pretty obvious he isn't gonna be with the Chargers next year? Is he open to be traded, or am I not allowed to since he's likely to be a UFA?

Also, what about a trade like the Cromartie trade? It was a 3rd rounder that could escalate to a 2nd based on playing time, which he obviously is on pace to exceed, having played pretty much every snap.

BeerBaron
10-19-2010, 12:55 AM
How are handling underclassmen declaring? I'd personally suggest erring on the side of more guys coming out than not....at least for the sake of fun. I'm not talking anyone extremely unlikely to come out coming out, but guys like Luck, Mallett, Patrick Peterson, North Carolina's crew....etc.

Also, what did you think of the order D-Unit? Useable?

DiG
10-19-2010, 08:22 AM
d unit and i are working on the underclassman list. we will have it today. the draft orders pretty much done.

also, players that are scheduled to be UFAs may not be traded. ie vjax, dwill, ronnie brown, randy moss, carlos rogers, etc. etc. the list goes on.

CJSchneider
10-19-2010, 08:46 AM
What is the schedule for all this to be started/ posted?

Scotty D
10-19-2010, 09:25 AM
I want to see where Dallas is picking.

DiG
10-19-2010, 10:01 AM
What is the schedule for all this to be started/ posted?

1-2 more days for trading? what do you guys think? maybe a thursday start? or should we shoot for tomorrow?

thenewfeature06
10-19-2010, 10:04 AM
1 or 2 more days to trade is cool with me. If not then that works too I guess.

CJSchneider
10-19-2010, 10:42 AM
Sounds good to me also.

BeerBaron
10-19-2010, 10:46 AM
1-2 days would be fine indeed.

I like the order ;)

Hines
10-19-2010, 10:48 AM
If anyone needs a RB, contact me.

A Perfect Score
10-19-2010, 10:49 AM
If anyone needs a RB, contact me.

Actually, contact me. I have better RBs to trade then Hines does.

Go_Eagles77
10-19-2010, 11:03 AM
Anyone willing to part with a 1st for Michael Vick?

I'll also accept a 2nd and 3rd.

A Perfect Score
10-19-2010, 11:10 AM
Anyone willing to part with a 1st for Michael Vick?

I'll also accept a 2nd and 3rd.

Haha you will be lucky to get just a 3rd sir.

Go_Eagles77
10-19-2010, 11:18 AM
Haha you will be lucky to get just a 3rd sir.
He could have been traded for a 3rd last year, before he started playing anywhere close to the level he's playing at now.

Scotty D
10-19-2010, 11:20 AM
Looking to move Cliff Avril, PM me.

DiG
10-19-2010, 11:21 AM
He could have been traded for a 3rd last year, before he started playing anywhere close to the level he's playing at now.

dont believe that for a second. internet rumors maybe but i highly doubt that offer ever really existed. not saying hes not worth a 3rd now but no way he was before.

A Perfect Score
10-19-2010, 12:31 PM
Everyone should come to IRC. Its so much easier to trade and interact in there, things get done much more quickly.

marshallb
10-19-2010, 12:39 PM
Anyone willing to part with a 1st for Michael Vick?

I'll also accept a 2nd and 3rd.

Can Vick even be traded? Isn't he a UFA after this year?

CashmoneyDrew
10-19-2010, 01:55 PM
Titans For Trade
- WR, Justin Gage
- TE, Jared Cook
- DT, Jovan Haye

Not looking for much. Late round draft picks.

BeerBaron
10-19-2010, 04:38 PM
There are apparently two Jon Gruden's in the NFL...considering I hired the real one already for Chicago, Dallas just got an imposter. I'd look into that if I were you D.

thenewfeature06
10-19-2010, 04:42 PM
Yeah I just saw that as well. hahahah D-unit got beat to itttt!

Bring Cowher to Dallas.

BeerBaron
10-19-2010, 04:43 PM
Cowher would be a better fit there. Supe-up that 3-4 and whip those guys into shape with some spit-as-he-yells discipline.

gpngc
10-19-2010, 04:44 PM
Can I be the Seahawks so Fenikz doesn't have two teams?

marshallb
10-19-2010, 04:46 PM
There are apparently two Jon Gruden's in the NFL...considering I hired the real one already for Chicago, Dallas just got an imposter. I'd look into that if I were you D.

...or Gruden plans on coaching 2 teams for the next 2 seasons to make up for the 2 years that he took off? I wonder what will happen when Dallas plays Chicago. That would be a very interesting game to say the least...

redbills
10-19-2010, 04:47 PM
i'am looking for a asst. gm btw.

BeerBaron
10-19-2010, 04:49 PM
...or Gruden plans on coaching 2 teams for the next 2 seasons to make up for the 2 years that he took off? I wonder what will happen when Dallas plays Chicago. That would be a very interesting game to say the least...

He cloned himself. It's the only explanation. Soon every team will be coached by a Jon Gruden.

D-Unit
10-19-2010, 04:53 PM
Hahaha. Jerry Jones got beat to the punch! My bad.

D-Unit
10-19-2010, 04:57 PM
Can I be the Seahawks so Fenikz doesn't have two teams?
You want'em, you got'em.

CashmoneyDrew
10-19-2010, 05:04 PM
D. I'll trade you Jeff Fisher for two first and second round picks! haha, jk.

fenikz
10-19-2010, 07:16 PM
FA Thread seems to be really inaccurate

CB Trumaine McBride UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent(AZ)
CB Brandon McDonald UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent(AZ)
CB Bryant McFadden UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent(Pit)

for example

CashmoneyDrew
10-19-2010, 07:35 PM
I saw some retired players in there as well. Plus Nick Mangold is not a free agent.

BeerBaron
10-19-2010, 07:37 PM
Brian Griese was still on there...... That was at least 3 years ago.

fenikz
10-19-2010, 07:40 PM
AZ looking into trading for some starter quality players, TE, OLB, ILB, CB, QB, FB, OL, really anything

also can we throw Aldon Smith on the list?

Shane P. Hallam
10-19-2010, 09:33 PM
Steelers will hear offers, but looking to stand pat.

Bosanac01
10-19-2010, 09:55 PM
Falcons looking to trade up as far as humanly possible.

iBoldin
10-19-2010, 09:59 PM
Denver will move back, or move up, depends on what we see with offers. We're pretty set with 4 picks so we can do either or.

vikes_28
10-19-2010, 10:47 PM
Chiefs looking for a vet pass rushing OLB.

RaiderNation
10-19-2010, 11:35 PM
Contact newfeature for all raider things related, I have to drop out due to some bs school assignments and work

BeerBaron
10-19-2010, 11:53 PM
I'm gonna have to go ahead and back at out of this. Sorry, but based on what is happening in the hockey league this year and the basketball league last year I just don't think I will enjoy it. Good luck.

I think we still need a replacement Bucs GM for him.

Also, I encourage any GMs who haven't done so yet to post a depth chart and update it as we go. Makes it feel more alive...and it makes grading easier at the end for anyone who wants to. I know I always like getting other's takes on how I've done.

Scotty D
10-19-2010, 11:55 PM
BeerBaron, McShay's mock is suppose to be a lot worse.

BeerBaron
10-19-2010, 11:58 PM
BeerBaron, McShay's mock is suppose to be a lot worse.

Haha....sorry. I wanted to make it seem like something newsworthy that would be in a "News" thread, so I just picked a non-Kiper draft analyst kind of at random.

BeerBaron
10-20-2010, 12:01 AM
There, I fixed it. :)

marshallb
10-20-2010, 08:05 AM
Anyone interested in Vincent Jackson hit me up. If there's interest in him I will franchise him.

Go_Eagles77
10-20-2010, 08:53 AM
I'd be willing to move Vick for a high 2nd or a low 2nd + a 4th.

A Perfect Score
10-20-2010, 11:53 AM
#ForumMock. Its easier then on here, trust me. Everyone get in there.

D-Unit
10-20-2010, 01:53 PM
UPDATE: You may also tag 1 player with the Transition Tag.

If you tag someone with the Transition tag then you can trade him as well.

A Perfect Score
10-20-2010, 03:52 PM
Anyone looking to move down from the Top 10, PM me on here or in IRC. Ravens might be looking to move up if the price is right, now have picks #26, #33, and #58.

djp
10-20-2010, 03:57 PM
Just a thought, but only having 3 rounds chaps a lot of trades right in the ass. Lots of guys are worth 4th's but not 3rd's. Just thinking out loud here, take it for what it's worth.

djp
10-20-2010, 04:01 PM
Moving Matt Light, Logan Mankins, and moving up or down with all of our picks is a possibility. Let me know. Looking for pass rushers, but I would consider most any offer.

DiG
10-20-2010, 04:09 PM
Just a thought, but only having 3 rounds chaps a lot of trades right in the ass. Lots of guys are worth 4th's but not 3rd's. Just thinking out loud here, take it for what it's worth.

doesnt mean you can't trade a 4th but 3 rounds is what we have decided for mocking purposes.

BeerBaron
10-20-2010, 04:14 PM
My boss at work is a Colts fan and is so proud of his Garcon jersey.....he'd flip **** if he were actually traded, lol

djp
10-20-2010, 04:15 PM
doesnt mean you can't trade a 4th but 3 rounds is what we have decided for mocking purposes.

No one wants to trade for a pick they can't use.

prock
10-20-2010, 04:54 PM
I want Mankins! PM me djp

Texas Homer
10-20-2010, 05:41 PM
I've have had some offers thrown my way, and I'm not trying to just brush them aside, but I'm going to keep all of my picks most likely, unless I'm blown away with a deal. 3 Round draft, I'd just to make every pick count.

Go_Eagles77
10-20-2010, 07:09 PM
If anyone has any interest in Michael Vick, PM me and we can see if we can work something out.

D-Unit
10-20-2010, 07:34 PM
We are officially not going to do Free Agency.

You can still apply the franchise and transition tags as you wish. If you do, then those players are eligible for trade.

CashmoneyDrew
10-20-2010, 07:34 PM
I leave for a few hours and my best position coach is stolen from underneath me with no forewarning? Not cool.

redbills
10-20-2010, 07:38 PM
looking to move Lee Evans , Poz and/or T.McGee.

BeerBaron
10-20-2010, 07:51 PM
I leave for a few hours and my best position coach is stolen from underneath me with no forewarning? Not cool.

It's not like it actually affects anything here though, all for fun....I just respect the guy and he's gotten a lot of pub this year. Time for a promotion, no? lol

CashmoneyDrew
10-20-2010, 07:57 PM
He's forever a Tit!

D-Unit
10-20-2010, 07:59 PM
It's not like it actually affects anything here though, all for fun....I just respect the guy and he's gotten a lot of pub this year. Time for a promotion, no? lol
If you want him, then you need to compensate the Titans with something they agree to or you need their permission to interview him for the job.

LetsGoGiants!
10-20-2010, 08:05 PM
We are officially not going to do Free Agency.

You can still apply the franchise and transition tags as you wish. If you do, then those players are eligible for trade.

So would Kevin Boss be back on the Giants?

D-Unit
10-20-2010, 08:08 PM
So would Kevin Boss be back on the Giants?
Maybe, maybe not.

LetsGoGiants!
10-20-2010, 08:14 PM
Maybe, maybe not.

I used the tags. We just leaving the rest off?

Shane P. Hallam
10-20-2010, 08:14 PM
I didn't give Butler permission to interview with anyone! He stays! Suck it 49ers!

BeerBaron
10-20-2010, 08:15 PM
If you want him, then you need to compensate the Titans with something they agree to or you need their permission to interview him for the job.

I've only very rarely ever heard of teams denying a position coach from moving to coordinator somewhere else. And I think that was the Raiders I heard it for, lol.

Like I said, it doesn't really affect anything....I could write an article about how I raised George Halas from the dead to be my HC. And I have cyborg coordinators....

Shane P. Hallam
10-20-2010, 08:15 PM
I used the tags. We just leaving the rest off?

Read the thread. You decide who you resign and don't. No "signing" other team's players though. There is no official FA for this.

Shane P. Hallam
10-20-2010, 08:17 PM
No Ryan Williams makes me a sad panda :(

thenewfeature06
10-20-2010, 08:18 PM
Looking to move into the first round anywhere!

BeerBaron
10-20-2010, 08:27 PM
I think I've heard of more people trying to trade up this time around than any previous. Usually, most people are trying to trade down for "MOAR DRAFT PICKZZ!!"

fenikz
10-20-2010, 08:31 PM
well no one has any draft picks cus we are only doing 3 rounds, but ill move down

LetsGoGiants!
10-20-2010, 08:39 PM
Read the thread. You decide who you resign and don't. No "signing" other team's players though. There is no official FA for this.

Alright, thanks.

Bengals78
10-20-2010, 10:29 PM
Open to hear offers for just about anyone.

A Perfect Score
10-20-2010, 10:38 PM
Open to hear offers for just about anyone.

Gimme all your players.

Actually just Leon Hall.

Bengals78
10-20-2010, 10:45 PM
Gimme all your players.

Actually just Leon Hall.

Haloti for Hall?

A Perfect Score
10-20-2010, 10:47 PM
No. Haloti is better then your entire defense put together. You can have Willis.

D-Unit
10-21-2010, 12:24 AM
Draft starts tomorrow!

prock
10-21-2010, 12:03 PM
Yay! I got Vick!

holt_bruce81
10-21-2010, 02:28 PM
Got a #1 for Sam to throw to!

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 02:49 PM
Got a #1 for Sam to throw to!

Until he drives after partying a little too much one more time.....you gotta keep him on the straight and narrow.

redbills
10-21-2010, 03:03 PM
will be up in min.

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 03:14 PM
Not that I'm complaining, because I'd love to get started, but I thought it didn't start til midnight tonight?

redbills
10-21-2010, 03:19 PM
d-unit pm'ed me to pick so i did

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 03:26 PM
d-unit pm'ed me to pick so i did

He would be the guy to know. Sweet.

I'm gonna have to go ahead and back at out of this. Sorry, but based on what is happening in the hockey league this year and the basketball league last year I just don't think I will enjoy it. Good luck.

Have we found a replacement for the Bucs yet?

D-Unit
10-21-2010, 03:47 PM
He would be the guy to know. Sweet.



Have we found a replacement for the Bucs yet?
Yeah, I posted that it would start at Noon EST.

I didn't even see that post by Chucky. Surprise, surprise.

If anyone wants to take them on, just let me know.

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 03:47 PM
I can do it if no one else wants to.

D-Unit
10-21-2010, 03:54 PM
I can do it if no one else wants to.
First come first served. You're it then.

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 05:44 PM
Just a heads up, these trades still need updated in the draft order:

San Diego should have pick #69, Detroit should have pick #96

Baltimore should have pick #33, Buffalo should have pick #90

San Diego should have pick #44

And if the Houston/NYG trade is official, NYG should have pick #56

djp
10-21-2010, 06:05 PM
Just a heads up, these trades still need updated in the draft order:

San Diego should have pick #69, Detroit should have pick #96

Baltimore should have pick #33, Buffalo should have pick #90

San Diego should have pick #44

And if the Houston/NYG trade is official, NYG should have pick #56

I updated 3/4, if the 4th one is indeed official, someone else can change or I'll get to it later.

Hines
10-21-2010, 06:19 PM
DeAngelo Williams and/or J-Stew can be had.

Bengals78
10-21-2010, 06:26 PM
Teams in need of a RB:
Cedric Benson can be had cheap(ish)

Scotty D
10-21-2010, 07:23 PM
Is there a clock today?

marshallb
10-21-2010, 07:25 PM
Is there a clock today?

No, no clock today. I don't think there's even a clock tomorrow.

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 07:25 PM
Nay. Goosemahn has been around to pick for the niners.....maybe he's working a huge trade or something.

Mr. Goosemahn
10-21-2010, 07:26 PM
Nay. Goosemahn has been around to pick for the niners.....maybe he's working a huge trade or something.

I'm not on the clock anymore, I traded back. Haven't been OTC for like an hour.

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 07:27 PM
Submit a trade did ya?

Mr. Goosemahn
10-21-2010, 07:29 PM
Submit a trade did ya?

Yeah, but Dirty Thirty hasn't been on. Nonetheless, I was told the trade was approved.

TACKLE
10-21-2010, 07:31 PM
Yeah, but Dirty Thirty hasn't been on. Nonetheless, I was told the trade was approved.

What was the trade?

Mr. Goosemahn
10-21-2010, 07:38 PM
What was the trade?

This:

Trade approval DAL-SF

SF gets:
Pick #6
Bradie James

DAL gets:
Pick #4
Chilo Rachal

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 07:39 PM
Dallas moving UP? Hmm....can't say I would have predicted that. Not sure who they'd be after unless they really, really want Patrick Peterson and didn't trust him to get past Detroit.

Scotty D
10-21-2010, 07:41 PM
So swapping Bradie James and Chil Rachal equals a third round pick?

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 07:43 PM
So swapping Bradie James and Chil Rachal equals a third round pick?

Apparently. I've never been a big fan of the way the value chart works though...hopefully they scrap it when a rookie wage scale gets put in.

Mr. Goosemahn
10-21-2010, 07:45 PM
So swapping Bradie James and Chil Rachal equals a third round pick?

Basically. 49ers need another 3-4 ILB and Bradie James is a solid one. During my 49ers-state-of-affairs learning process, I discovered that nobody likes Chilo Rachal as the starter, and people want him gone. Was mentioned as one of the players who could/should be traded immediately.

Apparently the only reason he's not benched is a combination of Singletary being too proud to do so, and the fact that he considers him one of his developmental prospects.

Might benefit from a change of scenery, because in SF he's been letting defenders get the best of him.

gpngc
10-21-2010, 07:46 PM
The value chart is extremely stupid and has been pretty much phased out in recent years.

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 07:47 PM
Don't you love those "learn the ins and outs of a team you don't really follow" sessions? I've had the Jags and Rams in two past mocks and pretty much had to learn on the fly what they need. You learn a lot though, my mock drafts always got them right after that, lol

Scotty D
10-21-2010, 07:52 PM
Basically. 49ers need another 3-4 ILB and Bradie James is a solid one. During my 49ers-state-of-affairs learning process, I discovered that nobody likes Chilo Rachal as the starter, and people want him gone. Was mentioned as one of the players who could/should be traded immediately.

Apparently the only reason he's not benched is a combination of Singletary being too proud to do so, and the fact that he considers him one of his developmental prospects.

Might benefit from a change of scenery, because in SF he's been letting defenders get the best of him.

I thought they drafted Navorro Bowman to play next to Willis.

D-Unit
10-21-2010, 10:15 PM
BeerBaron has been added as a trade commish. Didn't have enough coverage.

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 10:18 PM
BeerBaron has been added as a trade commish. Didn't have enough coverage.

My Authoritah, respect it!

4rtwb34Pd1k

Scotty D
10-21-2010, 10:19 PM
Are you going to wrap up that trade then?

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 10:20 PM
Are you going to wrap up that trade then?

DirtyThirty said the Cowboys needed to add more to it, so D is working on that now.

Scotty D
10-21-2010, 10:27 PM
Its just frustrating when the last pick was 5 hours ago and everyone involved with that trade has been online. They are two spots apart. Give up what it takes or make the pick.

wonderbredd24
10-21-2010, 10:31 PM
is Dallas trading up for Dareus? That is the best pick they could make if you ask me, but it seems like they could get him at 6

LetsGoGiants!
10-21-2010, 10:37 PM
My Authoritah, respect it!

4rtwb34Pd1k

Lol, has our trade been accepted?

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 10:38 PM
is Dallas trading up for Dareus? That is the best pick they could make if you ask me, but it seems like they could get him at 6

My guess is Peterson. since I think the Lions would be more interested in him. Unless he is afraid San Fran would take Dareus and that is his target...we'll see.

BeerBaron
10-21-2010, 10:38 PM
Lol, has our trade been accepted?

I haven't heard about that one. They'll let us know one way or another. I think it'll be fine.

Scotty D
10-22-2010, 12:51 AM
Both those trades are ****. Perfect example of why someone running a forum mock shouldn't have a team.

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 01:05 AM
Both those trades are ****. Perfect example of why someone running a forum mock shouldn't have a team.
It's not like I passed those trades. Why does it make you so upset?

Scotty D
10-22-2010, 01:12 AM
It's not like I passed those trades. Why does it make you so upset?

Because I sat on the clock for six ******* hours while you worked out a ******* trade up for two spots that is a ******* ******** trade to begin with.

How many 3 way trades with 7 picks and 7 players do you see happen?

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 01:33 AM
Because I sat on the clock for six ******* hours while you worked out a ******* trade up for two spots that is a ******* ******** trade to begin with.

How many 3 way trades with 7 picks and 7 players do you see happen?
Scotty, I'm sorry you got frustrated having to wait. However, there was no clock today and that was posted well before hand. Secondly, working the trade was quick. The long part was waiting for trade commissioners to get online. In fact, I tried to speed it up by asking BeerBaron to volunteer. I didn't sit here working the trade that long. That'd be sad. I came home from work, took my son to soccer practice, came back here, talked a little, ate dinner and now I'm back again here and watching TV. I even tried to check for PMs on my iphone! So don't blame me for taking a long time.

The trade was large. I agree. But the reason we did it was to be creative. By doing the 3 way trade, we were able to use that counted as 1 trade. So we could stay under the trade limits for this mock. The trade could've been broken down so that DAL & OAK did a trade separately from a SEA & OAK trade. If this were totally realistic then that's what we would've done because in real life there are no restrictions on the amount of trades you could pull. But because of the rules of this mock, we found a way to work around it. Can't fault that. That's playing the game. Besides, it only helped OAK by squeezing it into 1 trade. If you have an issue with the values involved in the trade, then I could see the frustration. But 2 trade commissioners not involved in the trade approved it all on their own accord.

fenikz
10-22-2010, 01:36 AM
and I'm done

Additions
Prince Amakumara, CB
Eric Steinbach, OG

Subtractions
Duece Latui, OG

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 06:53 AM
Oh sure, I got to bed for a few hour and the most ridiculous trades ever happen and our two top guys go off the board. Damn forum mock!

thenewfeature06
10-22-2010, 09:15 AM
Huff Seymour Howard and big John henderson all on the block, not asking for much.

princefielder28
10-22-2010, 09:22 AM
Ryan Pickett is on the block

am also willing to move down from 13

vikes_28
10-22-2010, 10:02 AM
Any team that runs 3-4 defense that wants to trade a pass rushing OLB, shoot me trade offers.

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 11:08 AM
The 3 way trade between DAL / OAK / SEA has been nixed.

We took in consideration the comments made and decided to break up the trade into 2 parts, so the trade is not large. One OAK / SEA trade, and one DAL / OAK trade.

Hopefully that relieves any frustration. See? Everyone can be a trade commish. :) thenewfeature doesn't get to do another trade, but he was willing to accept that to make the group happier.

Bengals78
10-22-2010, 01:51 PM
Anyone interested in moving up? Looking to move down a bit.

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 01:56 PM
Anyone interested in moving up? Looking to move down a bit.

We are definitely interested in moving up. Shoot us a PM with trade ideas.

BeerBaron
10-22-2010, 01:58 PM
We are definitely interested in moving up. Shoot us a PM with trade ideas.

I always thought the Ravens were a "sit back and take the value" team...

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 01:59 PM
I always thought the Ravens were a "sit back and take the value" team...

Ozzy was fired. We are coming after you!

wonderbredd24
10-22-2010, 02:00 PM
I always thought the Ravens were a "sit back and take the value" team...
They didn't hesitate to go up and get Oher or Flacco.

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 02:04 PM
I hope Denver are working on a big trade or something, because they have been on the clock forever.

Prowler
10-22-2010, 02:06 PM
Can we clone prince or draft him twice and have him split time between the teams? Pick 14 is open to moving down.

Prowler
10-22-2010, 02:12 PM
I hope Denver are working on a big trade or something, because they have been on the clock forever.

Part of it was my fault for sleeping last night and then prince was drafted and Jacksonville is leery of college qbs who use cocaine and those who remind them of leftwich.

BeerBaron
10-22-2010, 02:13 PM
They didn't hesitate to go up and get Oher or Flacco.

There was some intended sarcasm on it. When they drafted Kindle last year everyone praised them about how they always get great value and blah blah blah....ignoring the fact that they've traded up numerous times prior for guys.

djp
10-22-2010, 02:17 PM
Come on.. where is Denver?

wonderbredd24
10-22-2010, 02:22 PM
this is what happens when people try to get too cute with trades

Prowler
10-22-2010, 02:29 PM
Probably more like work or school.

djp
10-22-2010, 02:30 PM
Probably more like work or school.

He can't leave a list?

djp
10-22-2010, 02:31 PM
Just in case I'm not here when it gets to me, my # is 7637728961

marshallb
10-22-2010, 02:31 PM
Probably more like work or school.

except that he could have just made the pick when he was on posting in the news and rumors thread.

Scotty D
10-22-2010, 02:40 PM
D-unit set the precedent.

Prowler
10-22-2010, 02:42 PM
He probably didn't get my message until 9 hrs ago. So I'll say its work.

wonderbredd24
10-22-2010, 02:43 PM
except that he could have just made the pick when he was on posting in the news and rumors thread.
a rumor involving Prowler's Jags haha

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 02:45 PM
Can we just give them Terrelle Pryor to satisfy McD's ego and move on please. This is ridiculous.

iBoldin
10-22-2010, 02:48 PM
Truly sorry about this guys. I posted in the News/Rumors thread because I didn't want to just seem MIA, I was waiting on word from Jacksonville. I'm on the West Coast as well, I figured I would just check the PM in the morning.

Like I said, really sorry guys, won't happen again.

marshallb
10-22-2010, 02:49 PM
Pick will be up in a minute, just gotta make it pretty.

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 02:53 PM
D-unit set the precedent.
I need to remind you guys. The draft wasn't even going to start until today. With no clock for today. For the sake of not holding anything back if they were ready to pick, I let the draft start yesterday! A day ahead of schedule. So I don't feel sorry if anyone like you Scotty, if they felt they had to "wait". Especially when, the wait was not caused by feverishly trying to work out trades, but rather caused by not having the other trade commissioners online (I don't approve my own trades). Plus, I tried to help by adding a new commissioner in BeerBaron.

I posted the time line and nobody made issues about it then. So please let it play out.

I'm going to edit the time line thread to mention that if you miss your time clock and don't leave instructions on what to do with the pick, then a decision will be made for you by the commissioners.

BeerBaron
10-22-2010, 02:54 PM
Truly sorry about this guys. I posted in the News/Rumors thread because I didn't want to just seem MIA, I was waiting on word from Jacksonville. I'm on the West Coast as well, I figured I would just check the PM in the morning.

Like I said, really sorry guys, won't happen again.

No worries. The clock isn't even running, people are just a little impatient (I can be too, lol.)

CashmoneyDrew
10-22-2010, 02:56 PM
I kinda feel there should've been a few more underclassmen but whatevs.

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 03:00 PM
I kinda feel there should've been a few more underclassmen but whatevs.
I'll consider them if I don't feel like it would've affected any of the picks that were already made.

Shoot away.

Scotty D
10-22-2010, 03:02 PM
Alfonzo Dennard, CB - Nebraska

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 03:03 PM
Alfonzo Dennard, CB - Nebraska
A little case as to why would be helpful.

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 03:05 PM
Brandon Harris should be available, just cause I'm sad Peterson and Amakurama already went.

BeerBaron
10-22-2010, 03:05 PM
CB Brandon Harris of Miami is one I think should be included. His stock is rising, likely mid-first rounder.

wonderbredd24
10-22-2010, 03:08 PM
Ryan Williams cuz he'll likely be the 1st or 2nd running back off the board and Virginia Tech's not going anywhere, so why stay?

thenewfeature06
10-22-2010, 03:10 PM
Damn, I comp forgot Harris was a JR. but yeah I would consider him. He is athletic and plays big.

CashmoneyDrew
10-22-2010, 03:14 PM
WR- Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma
WR- DeVier Posey, Ohio State (Would probably come out if Pryor did)
HB- Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech

These three are the ones that pop out most.

djp
10-22-2010, 03:16 PM
I'm about to pick in a bit, give me 10-15 min

djp
10-22-2010, 03:29 PM
Not really thrilled with my options, I'll give myself about 20 minutes to work out a deal to move down.

Shane P. Hallam
10-22-2010, 03:37 PM
WR- Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma
WR- DeVier Posey, Ohio State (Would probably come out if Pryor did)
HB- Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech

These three are the ones that pop out most.

Agreed on these.

CashmoneyDrew
10-22-2010, 03:40 PM
Agreed on these.

I knew I liked you.

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 03:41 PM
If you are gunna add underclassmen, do it quickly as it determines whether some people are going to move up, etc.

Bengals78
10-22-2010, 03:41 PM
Any one want to move up to 11?

Shane P. Hallam
10-22-2010, 03:42 PM
Can we leave cell numbers to get texts if we are up/for trades, etc.

djp
10-22-2010, 03:43 PM
Made my pick. Hopefully it was the right one, that will all depend on who's there the next time I get to pick.

Bengals78
10-22-2010, 03:43 PM
I like the pick.

djp
10-22-2010, 03:45 PM
I like the pick.

Thanks. Without getting into too much detail on my strategy, Bowers is going to be a stud in either a 3-4 or a 4-3, but I really like him as a 3-4 DE if he can get himself into a little better shape. I think BB gets a whole hell of a lot out of Bowers, giving him such a great athlete to develop with all the tools is something that I couldn't pass up. There were 2 other guys I was strongly considering, but ended up going for front 7 help. That seems to be what Patriot fans would like the most.

CashmoneyDrew
10-22-2010, 03:48 PM
Can we leave cell numbers to get texts if we are up/for trades, etc.

Everyone else is doing it!

marshallb
10-22-2010, 03:49 PM
If you are gunna add underclassmen, do it quickly as it determines whether some people are going to move up, etc.

Yea, I'm fine with adding some guys as I think that list was a bit light, but you gotta do it soon, b/c it will start to affect some picks and trade ups/downs, etc.

redbills
10-22-2010, 03:49 PM
if things go well in the first 3 rounds will we do more?

Shane P. Hallam
10-22-2010, 03:49 PM
I just didn't know if there was one place.

Mine is 412.860.3346.

princefielder28
10-22-2010, 03:50 PM
920.655.7932

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 03:52 PM
Thanks. Without getting into too much detail on my strategy, Bowers is going to be a stud in either a 3-4 or a 4-3, but I really like him as a 3-4 DE if he can get himself into a little better shape. I think BB gets a whole hell of a lot out of Bowers, giving him such a great athlete to develop with all the tools is something that I couldn't pass up. There were 2 other guys I was strongly considering, but ended up going for front 7 help. That seems to be what Patriot fans would like the most.
I wouldn't doubt it if he ended up a Top 3 pick in the end. He's a monster.

BeerBaron
10-22-2010, 04:36 PM
When someone gets the chance who can adjust the order to reflect the Bears/Giants trade, I'd appreciate it if they would :)

CashmoneyDrew
10-22-2010, 04:53 PM
Ugh, I'm ready to pick. Make it happen people!

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 04:56 PM
When someone gets the chance who can adjust the order to reflect the Bears/Giants trade, I'd appreciate it if they would :)
Action completed.

marshallb
10-22-2010, 04:56 PM
I just sent a text to prock.

redbills
10-22-2010, 05:05 PM
Bills will move anyone, Jackson, Poz, Evans, McGee etc.

prock
10-22-2010, 05:22 PM
The Vikings found a new way to compete! Rebuild? Rebuilding is for cowards. I brought in Michael Vick to lead the Vikings to an 11 win season and a Super Bowl chance. I traded down from 10 to pick up the second rounder I traded for Vick, and will get better value at 26 for the positions I am targeting.

BeerBaron
10-22-2010, 05:24 PM
The Vikings found a new way to compete! Rebuild? Rebuilding is for cowards. I brought in Michael Vick to lead the Vikings to an 11 win season and a Super Bowl chance. I traded down from 10 to pick up the second rounder I traded for Vick, and will get better value at 26 for the positions I am targeting.

Whose pick is this then? I don't see where you traded down out of 10?

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 05:25 PM
Whose pick is this then? I don't see where you traded down out of 10?

Its the Ravens, pending approval. Sending the trade to commissioners now.

BeerBaron
10-22-2010, 05:30 PM
I approved and forwarded to the others. D-Unit is online, hopefully he approves it quickly.

CJSchneider
10-22-2010, 05:34 PM
I'm back on-line so no need to use my BB. Thanks D-Unit.

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 05:34 PM
Just waiting on approval from one other trade commish, then pick will be up.

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 05:58 PM
Pick is up! Woooooo!

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 06:14 PM
Pick is up! Woooooo!
Nice fit! Haloti is a happy man.

Does Terence Cody get much playing time at all? Is he a bust yet or what's his story? Team like him?

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 06:17 PM
Nice fit! Haloti is a happy man.

Does Terence Cody get much playing time at all? Is he a bust yet or what's his story? Team like him?

The team really likes him and he looked great in the preseason when he played, but he hasn't received much playing time this season so far. He was inactive the first 3 weeks though. But a defensive line of Ngata - Cody - Clayborn with Suggs and a healthy Kindle coming off the edge would be unstoppable. We looked at all the CBs left but didn't really love any, and Clayborn is a guy both TACKLE and I love both as a player and as a Raven. We felt we had to make the move to grab him rather then wait for someone like Cameron Jordan later.

Bengals78
10-22-2010, 06:17 PM
I disapprove of that pick.

Scotty D
10-22-2010, 06:18 PM
I didn't get Bowers over Clayborn.

BeerBaron
10-22-2010, 06:27 PM
I didn't get Bowers over Clayborn.

Better fit in a 3-4 probably. Clayborn probably could do it....I like him more as a 4-3 end though.

Bengals78
10-22-2010, 06:30 PM
Any interest in:
Antwan Odom/Robert Geathers/Carlos Dunlap
Cedric Benson
Pat Sims

TACKLE
10-22-2010, 06:30 PM
To add on to what APS said, the first round of this draft is weak as a whole and we felt that the best value was atop the draft. We were trying to move up since the beginning because we knew we would get better value if we moved up. I'm very happy that Clayborn was still there and I think he could have a tremendous impact in our defense. He is the perfect compliment to Ngata in a 30 front and provides a lot of versatility in our defense that utilizes both 30 and 40 fronts.

A Perfect Score
10-22-2010, 06:31 PM
Better fit in a 3-4 probably. Clayborn probably could do it....I like him more as a 4-3 end though.

We run a ton of hybrid now with Mattison calling the shots, so thats why we felt comfortable with a guy like Clayborn. Heyward was our #1 after the two big CB's got poached, and we tried to trade up with SD but they wanted none of it. Heyward is a great fit for the defense and is a monster. So much talent along our defensive line now should keep the linebackers free and clear to make plays.

EDIT: What TACKLE said.

TACKLE
10-22-2010, 06:33 PM
Better fit in a 3-4 probably. Clayborn probably could do it....I like him more as a 4-3 end though.

I actually feel the opposite way.

Go_Eagles77
10-22-2010, 06:34 PM
Four 3-4 ends in a row. Interesting.

D-Unit
10-22-2010, 06:41 PM
Better fit in a 3-4 probably. Clayborn probably could do it....I like him more as a 4-3 end though.
I like Bowers more as a 4-3 DE. Don't even like him at all as a 3-4 DE.

Clayborn could probably do both well.

marshallb
10-22-2010, 06:42 PM
Four 3-4 ends in a row. Interesting.

ehh... honestly I feel that both Bowers and Clayborn are much, much better fits as 4-3 DEs, but I liked the value. As for the Dareus and Heyward picks, both teams had pretty big needs on the DL, and the value was too good. I was going to have a tough decision to make if it wasn't for Denver taking Dareus. Initially my BB went Green, Heyward, Dareus... but then I got to thinking about it more and more, and I was really debating between Heyward and Dareus during the time waiting for Denver to pick. I probably would have went with Heyward over Dareus if I'd have had to make the decision, but I'm kinda glad I didn't have to.