Week 8 Discussion Thread

[Hines]

Sunday
Washington @ Detroit
Jacksonville @ Dallas
Miami @ Cincinnati
Buffalo @ Kansas City
Carolina @ St. Louis
Denver @ San Francisco
Green Bay @ NY Jets
Tennessee @ San Diego
Tampa Bay @ Arizona
Minnesota @ New England
Seattle @ Oakland
Pittsburgh @ New Orleans

Monday
Houston @ Indianapolis


First of three straight prime time games for the Steelers. New Orleans is a struggling bunch. If Pittsburgh can run well, I think they win this game pretty easily. The game is at NO and they just got embarrassed, so I can see them coming out pissed off and taking over. But without Thomas and Bush, I don't think they'll be able to run at all, making Brees vulnerable.

[LizardState]

I thought Dallas at home vs J-Ville was going to be a breeze, with Kitna it's a pick 'em.

[vidae]

I'm a bit worried about this game against the Bills. They've had some fight. I'm afraid we'll lay down on this one.

[Nalej]

Troy Smith magic... coming soon!

[Auron]

First of three straight prime time games for the Steelers. New Orleans is a struggling bunch. If Pittsburgh can run well, I think they win this game pretty easily. The game is at NO and they just got embarrassed, so I can see them coming out pissed off and taking over. But without Thomas and Bush, I don't think they'll be able to run at all, making Brees vulnerable.

I don't think you have much to worry about, I have a feeling the Saints are going to get slaughtered this Sunday. The Home field advantage just isn't there for us, and this Offense has played 1 solid game all season.

[Brodeur]

Welcome to the beginning of the Lions playoff run.

[yourfavestoner]

Welcome to the beginning of the Lions playoff run.

I concur.

The Lions are not dead yet.

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Troy Smith to Ted Ginn!

[Jvig43]

So mad I may miss the Pats/Vikes game. I'm worried about it.

[vikes_28]

Vikings are ******.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Welcome to the beginning of the Lions playoff run.

No joke with Stafford back I can easily see you guys winning by 2 TD's. Really I highly doubt we can stop Megatron and we also give up the most receptions to RB's so Best could have a huge day. I just don't think our offense is equipt to win a shoot out which it will undoubtedly become. Our only chance to win the game like all of our other games is to force turnovers, either than or injure the other teams best player.

[yourfavestoner]

Eben Britton - season ending shoulder surgery. FML.

[Bucs_Rule]

New Orleans played against Tampa after getting embarrassed by Max Hall and Arizona.

Still think the Steelers are likely to win, should be much tougher then if the Saints beat the Browns.

[SenorGato]

Welcome to the beginning of the Chargers waking up.

Fixd.

I hope Houston pulls out a W on Monday night.

[SenorGato]

Welcome to the beginning of the Chargers waking up.

Fixd.

I hope Houston pulls out a W on Monday night.

[CJSchneider]

New Orleans played against Tampa after getting embarrassed by Max Hall and Arizona.

Still think the Steelers are likely to win, should be much tougher then if the Saints beat the Browns.

I love how you think.

[Giantsfan1080]

Bye week blues for me.

[619]

I'd love to have a bye week right now. Get my boy Murph all rested and back into the lineup.

I'm gonna miss you this week, Lou. :'(

[V.I.P]

Bucs win 31-14

Fire up the Blount ;)

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[yourfavestoner]

Bucs win 31-14

Fire up the Blount ;)

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OMG yes plz.

I've got Freeman holding the fort at QB for me for one more week (till Vick gets back), and I'm giving Blount the start at RB with Michael Turner out. I'm all aboard the TB bandwagon right now.

[V.I.P]

OMG yes plz.

I've got Freeman holding the fort at QB for me for one more week (till Vick gets back), and I'm giving Blount the start at RB with Michael Turner out. I'm all aboard the TB bandwagon right now.

Haha! You won't regret it, Blount is a man on a mission!

hN1jP0kRMGI

[molenguinurtle]

Eben Britton - season ending shoulder surgery. FML.

Wow. When it rains it pours.

[wogitalia]

The thing I see most in that video is how beastly the Tampa FB was on the majority of those runs! He is just blowing people backwards!

[RaiderNation]

Huge week for the Raiders. Play a team that we should beat after winning a big game last week.

[HawkeyeFan]

Watching that video reminds me why I'm a firm believer in the fact that Atogwe is overpaid, and overrated.


Also, worst tackling, by far, that I've seen St. Louis do this season.

[killxswitch]

I thought I heard on the radio this morning that Favre might be benched vs. the Pats? Is this true?

[MaxV]

It wouldn't surprise me if Favre plays in the first series to keep the streak going.

[yourfavestoner]

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3786/1pbook049nf.jpg

And so it begins.

[Splat]

Mathias Kiwanuka is done for the season (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/28/mathias-kiwanuka-is-done-for-the-season/)

[Complex]

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3786/1pbook049nf.jpg

And so it begins.

Dan Patrick on the Dan Patrick SHow said does Brett Favre remind of you of Cap Rooney right now

[BigBlueNorwegian]

Dan Patrick on the Dan Patrick SHow said does Brett Favre remind of you of Cap Rooney right now


So this makes Brad Childress the worst Al Pacino ever then :)

[Complex]

On Madden 2003 or 2004 after Steve McNair retired(franchise mode) I created Willie Beamen. He won ROY,MVP and Super Bowl MVP and ran for 2000 yards.


T-Jax is not Willie Beamon, Willie Beamen is Mike Vick.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Mathias Kiwanuka is done for the season (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/28/mathias-kiwanuka-is-done-for-the-season/)

That's a damn shame he was balling. Luckily for the Giants though their strategy of drafting so many DE's always comes in handy. Now JPP will really start to shine I believe.

[MetSox17]

It wouldn't surprise me if Favre plays in the first series to keep the streak going.

That's exactly what i was thinking. His ego is so humongous that he isn't "ruling himself out" so he can hobble out there like a "hero" and play one series before the pain is just so unbearable that he has to sit the game, but keeping his streak alive.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

That's exactly what i was thinking. His ego is so humongous that he isn't "ruling himself out" so he can hobble out there like a "hero" and play one series before the pain is just so unbearable that he has to sit the game, but keeping his streak alive.

His heroism won't be complete until they cart him off the field with a towel on his head while crying into his hands.

[gpngc]

Tony Dungy called the Seahawks the best team in the NFC and was laughed at.

Here's the video: http://12thmanrising.com/2010/10/26/3996/

Bulletin board material for PC... they are straight-up laughing at them...

[TitanHope]

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3786/1pbook049nf.jpg

And so it begins.

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[J255979-11nine]

Tony Dungy called the Seahawks the best team in the NFC and was laughed at.

Here's the video: http://12thmanrising.com/2010/10/26/3996/

Bulletin board material for PC... they are straight-up laughing at them...

I liked Rodney's comment. "You've must've been smacked upside the head with too many bibles or something."

[CC.SD]

Cap Rooney had two rings, Favre can suck his dick.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

God Ron Jaworski needs to shoot himself for quite possibly saying the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life on Mike & Mike. He was talking about how the Texans ended up drafting Mario Williams #1 so that they could stop Peyton Manning. He then says that on monday night Mario has to come up big to validate them taking him #1 overall. WTF. That has to be a joke. Are there actually people still out there who believe Reggie Bush is or can be an elite back. Geez it's people like this that I hate in the media. So if Mario in one game doesn't get a sack even if he gets 100 pressures and is doubled all game, he isn't considered an "impact player like Reggie Bush." I thought we were past this and Mario proved that he was 1,000,000x the player Bush is from the first day he stepped on an NFL practice field.

[Giantsfan1080]

The media is 90% morons STRIP. You should know this by now.

[LizardState]

I thought I heard on the radio this morning that Favre might be benched vs. the Pats? Is this true?

ESPN reported they're "leaning toward" starting Tavaris.

Translation from ESPNspeak: We're going to milk this latest Favre controversy for as much airtime as it will bear.

Shameless Favre = Good for shameful controversies & boosting that career INT rcd, bad for the Vikes.

It wouldn't surprise me if Favre plays in the first series to keep the streak going.

He will start if they have to haul him out in a wheelbarrow

[gpngc]

Parlay me!!!!!!!!


Panthers +3
Chargers -3.5
Cardinals -3

[BeerBaron]

God Ron Jaworski needs to shoot himself for quite possibly saying the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life on Mike & Mike. He was talking about how the Texans ended up drafting Mario Williams #1 so that they could stop Peyton Manning. He then says that on monday night Mario has to come up big to validate them taking him #1 overall. WTF. That has to be a joke. Are there actually people still out there who believe Reggie Bush is or can be an elite back. Geez it's people like this that I hate in the media. So if Mario in one game doesn't get a sack even if he gets 100 pressures and is doubled all game, he isn't considered an "impact player like Reggie Bush." I thought we were past this and Mario proved that he was 1,000,000x the player Bush is from the first day he stepped on an NFL practice field.

You need to do what I do and watch as little ESPN as is possible. It's easier for me since Comcast has screwed me out of most cable channels and is demanding exorbitant sums of money to get them......but I don't really miss it except when I have to watch MNF in a little screen on my computer instead of my HDTV.

[Vox Populi]

Someone send me a link via-private message to a place I can watch football, preferbaly the bills-chiefs game. I'm on a train and need to capitalize on this free wifi.

[scottyboy]

boooo bye weeks!

[BeerBaron]

boooo bye weeks!

Completely agreed. I don't know what I'll do at work without nervously and angrily watching the Bears game now....I may have to actually do work.

[scottyboy]

well i've got school work to do...but football is still football. it will still distract me.
i feel a bit more...relaxed. is that bad?
i feel like i have more time in my sunday haha

[The Unseen]

Why did I have to see the London thing?

And wtf, Phil Simms and Jim Nantz are calling the Cowboys/Jaguars game? This game doesn't matter for ****. That's what you get for being the Cowboys

[Hines]

I have to either watch the Packers/Jets or Jags/Boys. I bet you can figure out which one I'm watching.

[rockio42]

ummm yah...James Laurinaitis is better than you.

also...way to be BRUUUUUUUUUUUUCE congrats on getting your number retired sir.

[Hines]

I feel bad for Steve Smith.

[djp]

Nice play by Alualu.

True story, James Laurianitis played HS hockey here in Minnesota and he knocked one of my friends out cold with an open ice hit. My friend is 5'8 155 lbs. You imagine how that one looked.

Also, Marion Barber getting stoked over another 3 yard run is simply hilarious to me.

[M.O.T.H.]

Jesus, how about a block for Felix?

[LizardState]

And the Other Smith Era begins for the 9ers......

This game may set a rcd. for punts.

[Scotty D]

KVB sack, nice.

[yourfavestoner]

I have no idea why Cowboys/Jags is the CBS broadcast in LA, but I can't complain.

[_YL_]

Lets go Bills hahaha but I downloaded that NFL Mobil app cause I have to work today and can't watch the Raiders game and you can actually listen to the game pretty awesome

[djp]

I keep waiting for Clay Matthews to regress but it's not happening and it's really pissing me off. Guy is a freaking monster.

[djp]

Patrick Willis says no

[PackerLegend]

4 3 and outs so far. Hopefully Pack does something on their 3rd try.

[rockio42]

God Damnit Gibson Please Catch The God Damn Ball!

[BeerBaron]

4 3 and outs so far. Hopefully Pack does something on their 3rd try.

If this game keeps going as a defensive struggle, my money is on the defense that is mostly healthy.

[M.O.T.H.]

News Flash: Dallas sucks.

[djp]

wtf DeAngelo Hall

[The Unseen]

Ware just got faked out.

[Scotty D]

argh DeAngelo Hall INT

[M.O.T.H.]

Oh wow a TD against Alan Ball. Shocker.

[The Unseen]

TD Mike Sims-Walker!

hard to get excited considering the competition and the lack of playoffs in the balance, but whatevs

[Gribble]

Holy ugly... Jacksonville up and down the field.

[BuckNaked]

Is it finally time to begin starting Sims-Walker?

[M.O.T.H.]

Oh god. lmao. Come on now.

[M.O.T.H.]

Nice ball Kitna. Dezzy. <3

[The Unseen]

POT ROAST!

rumblinnn

[_YL_]

haha cowboys

[LizardState]

After giving up a rcd. no of yds on the ground & most points to teh Raiders the Denver front 8 is looking for run & the 9ers gameplan is the short passing game. So far it's working, just don't turn it over.

[Gribble]

dammit... another tipped INT lol

[Hines]

Ballsy playcall by Rex.

[M.O.T.H.]

Last time I praise Kitna. Throws one behind Felix for an INT to fat Albert over there.

Felix probably could have caught it, still a piss poor throw.

edit...guess it wasnt too bad. A little bit behind but nothing big. More on Felix for looking to run with it.

[_YL_]

Chiefs not looking so good so far

[Gribble]

Jenkins might wanna cover Sims-Walker...

[LizardState]

Gore is the hammer & the Broncos are nails. Came up inches short on 3rd & 1 though, Nedney time.....

[Basileus777]

So Bowe drops a TD and then the next drive Cassel overthrows Charles sprinting down the field for an easy TD...

[PackerLegend]

who does a fake punt on 4th and like 15 8 min into the game. The ****? god he better be short

[FuzzyGopher]

Good news Dallas fans, a potential new HC candidate may be hitting the market.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/31/more-evidence-emerges-of-chilly-on-the-hot-seat/

[derza222]

Ballsy playcall by Rex.

Interesting to see how they call that one in the booth...makes a huge difference in the game.

[M.O.T.H.]

Another shocker a 3rd down conversion against Scandrick. hahahahaha. He's sooooooo bad.

[The Unseen]

Jaguars perfectly protect a 7-man blitz. wow.

[LizardState]

3-0 9ers. Dierdorf & Gumbel -- what a par to draw to. They sound jetlagged.

[Chucky]

MSW is beastin

[_YL_]

First down Buffalo on behalf of stupidity on the Chiefs part running into the kicker

[LizardState]

Another shocker a 3rd down conversion against Scandrick. hahahahaha. He's sooooooo bad.

Scandrick s/b be put down like a horse with a broken leg. Euthanasia is in order.....safety play is so ******* bad in Dallas this yr if they don't draft one or get a FA safety IDK what fans will do, Jerry will go for another sexy pick like a RB or DE.

[The Unseen]

Jaguars' offensive line snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[yourfavestoner]

Eugene Monroe sucks.

[BeerBaron]

Scandrick s/b be put down like a horse with a broken leg. Euthanasia is in order.....safety play is so ******* bad in Dallas this yr if they don't draft one or get a FA safety IDK what fans will do, Jerry will go for another sexy pick like a RB or DE.

Patrick Peterson has Dallas written all over him if they suck their way into the top 5. He screams Jerry Jones type of player to me.

[PackerLegend]

thanks for not ****ing scoring so Rex Ryan doesn't look like a bigger dumbass ****

[LizardState]

Walton did the old fwd somersault flipover lead block, lol. And Mareno was their #1 pick? Genius!

[xxxxxxxx]

Patrick Peterson has Dallas written all over him if they suck their way into the top 5. He screams Jerry Jones type of player to me.

I hope your right.

[LizardState]

Patrick Peterson has Dallas written all over him if they suck their way into the top 5. He screams Jerry Jones type of player to me.

3,600 posts.....Agreed, & they may draft high enough to take him. Can he play safety? They may dump Newman anyway b/c he's due like $5M.

Jeez the 9ers run reverses to Ginn b/c it's looks flashy, but it works against Denver, like everything, lol.

[xxxxxxxx]

Miles going off...

[BeerBaron]

Agreed, & they may draft high enough to take him. Can he play safety?

6'1 222 with what I think is legit 4.3 speed.......I'm sure he'd make for a hell of a safety, but I really want to see someone try him out at CB first. There are some decent 2nd/3rd round caliber safeties this year who might fill your need.

[scottyboy]

in my 2 money leagues i'm playing MSW and Miles. commmmme on.
and jeebus, can the pack stop santonio?

[nepg]

I thought the voice-over guy for the Head and Shoulders commercial said "Hair and Urine Shampoo"... I was like "WTF?" Then I look up and see "Endurance". Enunciate, motherfrakker.

[M.O.T.H.]

lol. I called that one...way too much running room to be a clean play.

[The Unseen]

bahahahaha

[M.O.T.H.]

Miles is a dropping machine.

[xxxxxxxx]

Kitna.... Qb Controversy In Dallas?!

Lololol

[Gribble]

Kitna.... Qb Controversy In Dallas?!

Lololol

both picks have been off the receivers' hands

[Babylon]

Does any team throw to their backup TEs and FBs more than the Niners, with little success i may add.

[yourfavestoner]

Derek Cox lives!

[Babylon]

Kitna.... Qb Controversy In Dallas?!

Lololol

The only controversy is whether they use their high draft pick in the spring on a new QB or not.

[BeerBaron]

The only controversy is whether they use their high draft pick in the spring on a new QB or not.

They won't.....Romo is a better QB what was 2/3 of the league has. They should draft a member of the secondary (PP) and like it.

[steelernation77]

Todd Haley is holding the Chiefs back. Lose Haley, keep Weis, Crennel and Pioli.

[The Unseen]

Marcedes Lewis bitches!

[_YL_]

Chiefs are stupid should of just kicked the 3 to get some points on the board you can tell points are gonna be hard to come.

[Babylon]

They won't.....Romo is a better QB what was 2/3 of the league has. They should draft a member of the secondary (PP) and like it.

You think a whole lot more of Tony Romo than i do.

[V.I.P]

I hate 4 o'clock games! Damn you Arizona and your mountain time! :(

[LizardState]

There are some decent 2nd/3rd round caliber safeties this year who might fill your need.

Yessir, I'm thinking these s/b there:

1) Rahim Moore
2) Deunta Williams,
3) Tyler Sash
4) Mark Barron

Maybe Dallas gets some turnovers instead of leading the league in ******* giveaways.

[M.O.T.H.]

The only controversy is whether they use their high draft pick in the spring on a new QB or not.

Or not. Romo's job and future with the team is safe. And rightfully so. We have big holes on both sides of the ball, QB isnt even in the discussion.

We need an offensive line...Dallas was a fantastic team last season, but what ended up costing them in the end? The offensive line. They were completely raped against the Vikes. That loss in no way falls on Romo. Romo is fantastic, if he's given time. We only have one, maybe two, good O-Lineman on the team. It's a mess. We cant run, Romo constantly had to run for his life on pass attempts. That's our biggest problem.

And now the defense is just complete ****. Mostly in the secondary. We have many a hole to fill.

[BeerBaron]

Rodgers hasn't been looking particularly accurate today.

[BeerBaron]

And that drop didn't help Rodgers either.

[steelernation77]

Chiefs are stupid should of just kicked the 3 to get some points on the board you can tell points are gonna be hard to come.

Haley has been going for it on 4th an insane amount this year. It's come back to bite them in their losses.

Broadcasters seem reluctant to call coaches out on their stupidity. Ryan faking that punt wasn't "gutsy" it was stupid. Haley going for it on 4th every effing time is stupid.

[wonderbredd24]

You think a whole lot more of Tony Romo than i do.
Tony Romo is a ******* legend and don't you dare ever besmurch his good name. The Cowboys need to take a defensive lineman or defensive back and stay far, far away from away from Luck/Locker.

[Scotty D]

Megatron TD!

[M.O.T.H.]

You think a whole lot more of Tony Romo than i do.

I dont get the hate...he has one of the highest winning percentages among active QBs. He carries this team on his back, with a ****** offensive line and little to no running game, these days.

[LizardState]

Maybe Singletary thinks he will keep his job if they have more 1st dns. today.... he was rated a 9 on the 1-10 Scare O' Meter of hotseat coaches on ESPN this morning. York needs to man up & tell him Clean out your desk.

[wonderbredd24]

Maybe Singletary thinks he will keep his job if they have more 1st dns. today.... he was rated a 9 on the 1-10 Scare O' Meter of hotseat coaches on ESPN this morning. York needs to man up & tell him Clean out your desk.
Firing a coaching staff in the NFL midseason is so incredibly worthless. May as well let him finish out this abortion and cut him loose at the end of the year.

Incidently, Singletary taking over during the season is how they ended up with this mess in the first place.

[scottyboy]

stafford to megatron!
it's what i've been waiting for for oh so long on my fantasy teams. and I LOOOOVE it

[General Zod]

lol CBSsports tracker had M.Hoomanawanui name screwed up. For the longest time they were spelling it M.HoomanawanuiHoomanawanui

I found it funny for some reason.

[nepg]

Todd Haley is holding the Chiefs back. Lose Haley, keep Weis, Crennel and Pioli.
What?! Ballz Haley is the man. Crennel fixed that defense, but the entire team is doing well because of Haley. Weis is calling a ****** game on offense today, though. WTF was that long-developing pass play on 4th & 2? Throw a screen...the Bills have yet to stop the screen.

[LizardState]

And now the defense is just complete ****. Mostly in the secondary. We have many a hole to fill.

starting with the best DB available who can start as a rookie.

Gore on a sweep that most HS teams can stop, Dawkins' ankle is hurt & Gore gets 20+.

[wonderbredd24]

Evidently, Mark Sanchez is too good to hit the wide open Braylon Edwards down the field with no one even in the same zipcode

[steelernation77]

What?! Ballz Haley is the man. Crennel fixed that defense, but the entire team is doing well because of Haley. Weis is calling a ****** game on offense today, though. WTF was that long-developing pass play on 4th & 2? Throw a screen...the Bills have yet to stop the screen.

Haley has been making boneheaded decisions in key situations all year.

[SuperMcGee]

Ha. Keep not running on these crucial short downs.

[The Unseen]

******** holding call.

[LizardState]

Firing a coaching staff in the NFL midseason is so incredibly worthless. May as well let him finish out this abortion and cut him loose at the end of the year.

Incidently, Singletary taking over during the season is how they ended up with this mess in the first place.

After firing Jimmy Raye he became their worst enemy with his game mgmt. Just tell him to not do anything b/c it's usually wrong

9ers to the 17, why th can't defenses figure out that when Delanie Walker is in the game he gets the ball 80% of the time? He's not a blocking TE.

[General Zod]

Nice I got Ryan Torain starting in my fantasy league today. lol

[wonderbredd24]

Haley has been making boneheaded decisions in key situations all year.
Haley has never impressed me one way or the other. He strikes me as just a guy. Not gonna make anyone better or worse.

[_YL_]

3rd and 1 and u pass ooook chiefs

[djp]

Punch it in #39!!!!! I need it!

[Babylon]

I dont get the hate...he has one of the highest winning percentages among active QBs. He carries this team on his back, with a ****** offensive line and little to no running game, these days.

I dont hate Romo and i would probably agree there are bigger problems, i just dont see him taking the team to the Superbowl, also it's in the context you would possibly have a shot at a top QB in the draft.

[SchizophrenicBatman]

I would just like to take this moment to LOL @ anyone who thought Jimmy Clausen was better than Bradford

[wonderbredd24]

I would just like to take this moment to LOL @ anyone who thought Jimmy Clausen was better than Bradford
Just as long as he isn't so awful they consider taking Luck/Locker

[V.I.P]

What should i watch? Miami vs Cincy or Green Bay @ NY ????

[LizardState]

Manny Lawson sack but he gets one ******* hand on the helmet so they get a cheap 1st dn.

Hands to the face AND roughing the passer, wtf?

[Babylon]

Tony Romo is a ******* legend and don't you dare ever besmurch his good name. The Cowboys need to take a defensive lineman or defensive back and stay far, far away from away from Luck/Locker.

I see what you did there.

[M.O.T.H.]

I dont hate Romo and i would probably agree there are bigger problems, i just dont see him taking the team to the Superbowl, also it's in the context you would possibly have a shot at a top QB in the draft.

There is still no reason to draft a top QB. Seeing how we already have one. Dallas' biggest problem is the offensive line...Romo is as talented as any QB in the league. It would be a pick wasted. Dallas still has the talent to contend for many years to come...So long as they can sure up the offensive line. Not an easy thing to do...but it's what needs to be done. They need a complete overhaul. We could be looking at 3-4 new starters across that line next season. One of the absolute worst units in the NFL.

[SuperMcGee]

Nice play by Berry but that is a brutal spot. Freddy had the first.

[LizardState]

Takeo Spikes stick!

Moreno sucks, he has the acceleration of a hippopotamus

If this defensive struggle continues into the 2nd half any TD will win it.

[wonderbredd24]

That's right, Henne. Don't let triple coverage disuade you from making that insane throw.

[Babylon]

There is still no reason to draft a top QB. Seeing how we already have one. Dallas' biggest problem is the offensive line...Romo is as talented as any QB in the league. It would be a pick wasted. Dallas still has the talent to contend for many years to come...So long as they can sure up the offensive line. Not an easy thing to do...but it's what needs to be done. They need a complete overhaul. We could be looking at 3-4 new starters across that line next season. One of the absolute worst units in the NFL.

Actually he isnt but i like your loyalty.

[djp]

Chris Clemons with the boner of the week award

[SchizophrenicBatman]

How old is Romo? If he's like 29 I dont think taking a QB would be awful but it's really unnecessary at this point. Romo is good enough if he'd just play well in the playoffs

[V.I.P]

Crazy catch by T.O.

[LizardState]

They noted that Troy Smith has been throwing to Ginn since like the 4th grade.

[nepg]

Haley has been making boneheaded decisions in key situations all year.
He goes for it on 4th & short. It's an established thing that he's done all year. It's just a strategy. He says it's a numbers thing. I don't care to do the research to find what the numbers are, but that's good enough for me.

I do have a problem with Weis's playcalling in short yardage situations on 3rd and 4th downs, though. He's been sketchy as a playcaller all year. Evidenced by the 4th & 2 playcall, then the 3rd & 1... Best Run O v. Worst Run D...pretty obvious what you do.

[Job]

Romo is the furthest possible thing from being the problem in Dallas.

[SuperMcGee]

Ugh, I maintain that the ball was at the marker befopre anything hit.

Donald Jones is a boss special teamer.

[derza222]

One of the luckiest 37 yard touchdown passes you'll ever see for Carson Palmer.

[wonderbredd24]

Romo is the furthest possible thing from being the problem in Dallas.
I still can't rule out the possibility Jerry Jones goes GM and picks Mallett.

[Babylon]

How old is Romo? If he's like 29 I dont think taking a QB would be awful but it's really unnecessary at this point. Romo is good enough if he'd just play well in the playoffs

He's 30 and Jones probably loves the whole image with Tony, it plays well in Dallas. All i was saying was if you have a Luck or a Locker there in the draft and the alternative is a D-lineman or a tackle who is rated much lower do you take the best available.

[LizardState]

Quote:
Originally Posted by M.O.T.H.
There is still no reason to draft a top QB. Seeing how we already have one. Dallas' biggest problem is the offensive line...Romo is as talented as any QB in the league. It would be a pick wasted. Dallas still has the talent to contend for many years to come...So long as they can sure up the offensive line. Not an easy thing to do...but it's what needs to be done. They need a complete overhaul. We could be looking at 3-4 new starters across that line next season. One of the absolute worst units in the NFL.
Actually he isnt but i like your loyalty.


Remember that Romo was an UDFA, came up as a backup the hard way like Kurt Warner. He went to Eastern Illinois like Shanahan & half the NFL assts. & was wired into their network.

[xxxxxxxx]

Jerry has drafted one player from arkansas in his ownership of the cowboys, felix jones.

Please use facts and not stereotypes before you post... thank you.

[Babylon]

I still can't rule out the possibility Jerry Jones goes GM and picks Mallett.

There's that Arkansas connection again.:-D

[LizardState]

Gaffney got drilled by Willis & dropped it, how is that not a fumble?

Ineligible downfield, restart play clock, Officiating sucks in London. Or they have completely lost control of the game

[Scotty D]

Suh with the sack!

[steelernation77]

He goes for it on 4th & short. It's an established thing that he's done all year. It's just a strategy. He says it's a numbers thing. I don't care to do the research to find what the numbers are, but that's good enough for me.

I do have a problem with Weis's playcalling in short yardage situations on 3rd and 4th downs, though. He's been sketchy as a playcaller all year. Evidenced by the 4th & 2 playcall, then the 3rd & 1... Best Run O v. Worst Run D...pretty obvious what you do.

I get that it's a strategy and I think it's a stupid one. The Chiefs have good kickers and punters. They run the ball well and play good defense. They should be playing the field position game, not taking unnecessary risks. I agree with you that Weis made a poor call there, but it can't be overlooked that the buck stops with Haley.

[wonderbredd24]

Jerry has drafted one player from arkansas in his ownership of the cowboys, felix jones.

Please use facts and not stereotypes before you post... thank you.
So you're saying it's not possible?

[yo123]

Palmer with the worst throw of all time to still go for a touchdown...

[Job]

One of the luckiest 37 yard touchdown passes you'll ever see for Carson Palmer.

What happened?

[Scotty D]

Suh with another SACK! **** yes # 2 today

[M.O.T.H.]

Actually he isnt but i like your loyalty.

BS. You're just a hater if you cant see that. He's one of, if not the most elusive QB in the NFL. He's always been very accurate. He makes plays that the vast majority of QBs in the league cannot make at all.

You realize, he does have one of the best winning percentages among active QBs. And statistically, he's been a top 5 QB since he became a starter. So he wins, and he puts up big numbers...and yet, he's not really good at all.

And if you want to talk playoff performances...know what is a theme in each of their playoff losses? Horrible offensive line play. That line is big and fat...they've been completely worthless at the end of the season for years. Their play falling off, also coincides with Romo's December struggles. Romo continues to get way too much hate then he really deserves. And without him...this team typically looks like ****. The fact that we're playing the Jags, is making us look a little better today...but Romo carries this offense on his back, behind terrible offensive line play.

[Morton]

Wow.

Ndamakong Suh is the defensive rookie of the year and it's not even close.

[scottyboy]

suh is just an animal. he's so so so so good

[LizardState]

Cmon, you're in the UK! Why not try a 69-yd FG?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

It's not the same without Atlanta on.

[Vox Populi]

Two weeks in a row where I come in here and am surprised at how ******* clueless people are about the Cowboys players, coaches, drafting and everything else. They're getting so much hate right now its ******** and I'm not even a Cowboys fan, I generally hate the franchise... At least criticize the ****** parts of their team, not Romo and the Felix Jones draft pick (going back to last week's thread). I can't even imagine how much the hardcore Cowboys fans hate responding to the complete ignorance in these threads.

[SuperMcGee]

As bad as the Bills can be to watch, at least it's not any of these shows advertised by CBS.

[LizardState]

He's always been very accurate. He makes plays that the vast majority of QBs in the league cannot make at all.

You realize, he does have one of the best winning percentages among active QBs. And statistically, he's been a top 5 QB since he became a starter. So he wins, and he puts up big numbers...

Romo defenders outnumbering Romo haters here today.

He looks off DBs better than any NFL QB. Just ask the Eagles secondary about him

[Babylon]

Suh with another SACK! **** yes # 2 today

Scotty, i'm expecting nothing less than a W today.

[Matthew Jones]

Carson Palmer with the worst touchdown pass I've ever seen.

[steelernation77]

Two weeks in a row where I come in here and am surprised at how ******* clueless people are about the Cowboys players, coaches, drafting and everything else. They're getting so much hate right now its ******** and I'm not even a Cowboys fan, I generally hate the franchise... At least criticize the ****** parts of their team, not Romo and the Felix Jones draft pick (going back to last week's thread). I can't even imagine how much the hardcore Cowboys fans hate responding to the complete ignorance in these threads.

Jerry Jones has been and will continue to be the root of the Cowboys' problems so long as a salary cap exists.

[derza222]

Tough for the Jets to now burn another challenge and have none left the rest of the game, but I think it's pretty key in terms of field position. Looks like it's not even going to be overturned either, kind of weird that you can't make the right call on a challenge sometimes, that simultaneous possession can't be reviewed is kind of odd. Why limit the ability to make the right call?

[Morton]

Jerry Jones has been and will continue to be the root of the Cowboys' problems so long as a salary cap exists.

This.

The only reason the Cowboys have ever won any Super Bowlsduring the Jerry Jones era is because of one man: Jimmy Johnson. And the only reason they haven't been completely irrelevant the past 5 years or so is because of Bill Parcells.

Every season in which Jerry Jones is calling the shots regarding draft & free agency is a season wasted and squandered. The man simply cannot draft. He's like a magpie picking bright, shiny objects.

[Hurricanes25]

Tramon Williams is having himself one hell of a game so far.

[djp]

Having Perriera is a huge addition to Fox broadcasts this year.

[LizardState]

Jerry Jones has staff members on salary to take the blame for .... well pretty much anything.

LMFAO! Ryan tells the media all wk "No excuses!!!" so he tries a fake punt inside his own 10 & didnt make it. What boorish fool.

[brat316]

Jets - Pack game is really good today.

[yo123]

The Packers have Brett Swain? Will their infatuation with white guys with greasy awful hair ever end?

[The Unseen]

That's a TD run by most other QBs, but it's Jon Kitna we're talking about.

[M.O.T.H.]

How did Kitna not score there? Nice play, but damn...he had so much room.

[Babylon]

First team to 10 probably wins this Jets vs Packers game.

[LizardState]

How did Kitna not score there? Nice play, but damn...he had so much room.

The FB gods have decreed that Dallas will draft inthe top 5 next April just to see the look on Jerry's face.

Upside is that they won't have to trade up ... again ... & give up the ranch to do it. Dallas makes draft day trades for the absolute gleeful hell of it.

[The Unseen]

Derek Cox was held clearly on Kitna's run.

And you ******* idiots, that's not a TD

[nepg]

I get that it's a strategy and I think it's a stupid one. The Chiefs have good kickers and punters. They run the ball well and play good defense. They should be playing the field position game, not taking unnecessary risks. I agree with you that Weis made a poor call there, but it can't be overlooked that the buck stops with Haley.
I don't have any problem with Haley. Anyone who does is a silly goose. He's the main reason that team has turned it around so quickly. He came in last year and changed the culture of the team, and it's continuing and paying off this year. I think part of going for it on 4th & Short is field positioning. If you miss the FG, you give the other team 7-9 yards.

Like I said, I don't know the numbers on it, but it doesn't bother me. I don't think it bothers most Chiefs fans. I actually like it...it's exciting at least.

[Pit Bull #53]

tamba hali is such a freakin beast

[Job]

Dear god the Chiefs' schedule is a ******* joke.

[The Unseen]

well done defense!

[General Zod]

Sure am glad Dan Carpenter is my fantasy kicker lol.

[yourfavestoner]

Jon Kitna should be more concerned with running the right play instead of pumping the crowd up.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

The FB gods have decreed that Dallas will draft inthe top 5 next April just to see the look on Jerry's face


I'm welcoming a top 5 pick if I'm a Cowboys fan. Better than finishing something like 7-9.

[Basileus777]

Tamba is wreaking havoc.

[steelernation77]

I don't have any problem with Haley. Anyone who does is a silly goose. He's the main reason that team has turned it around so quickly. He came in last year and changed the culture of the team, and it's continuing and paying off this year. I think part of going for it on 4th & Short is field positioning. If you miss the FG, you give the other team 7-9 yards.

Like I said, I don't know the numbers on it, but it doesn't bother me. I don't think it bothers most Chiefs fans. I actually like it...it's exciting at least.

It really bothers one of my best friends who's a Chiefs die-hard. Succop is a good kicker. Take the points. The Chiefs could be up 13-0 right now.

[Job]

It really bothers one of my best friends who's a Chiefs die-hard. Succop is a good kicker. Take the points. The Chiefs could be up 13-0 right now.

You don't need points when you play the Bills.

[djp]

"Everybody shut up!! I'm about to run right into my running back on 4th and goal!!!!"

[nepg]

It really bothers one of my best friends who's a Chiefs die-hard. Succop is a good kicker. Take the points. The Chiefs could be up 13-0 right now.
They should be up 28-0, but that's besides the point.

[derza222]

The Jets are so lucky to be only down 3-0 right now. They've been really, really bad today.

[LizardState]

Gore with 72 1st half rushing yds, & he had surgeries on both knees at Miami. How he does it game after game IDK

[steelernation77]

The Jets are so lucky to be only down 3-0 right now. They've been really, really bad today.

And it could been tied if Ryan wasn't so "gutsy."

[BeerBaron]

The Jets are so lucky to be only down 3-0 right now. They've been really, really bad today.

That's how the Packers play this year it seems. Let the other team hang around as long as possible, then decide it late. That's how .500 records get made.

[Mr.Regular]

How the **** are we only up by 3?

[V.I.P]

"Everybody shut up!! I'm about to run right into my running back on 4th and goal!!!!"

Who are you, Jon Kitna?

[T-RICH49]

sooner or later Haley's gambler philosophy will cost us

[yo123]

How the **** are we only up by 3?


Because you have 123 total yards?

[M.O.T.H.]

I bet Kitna was pretty damn good, when he played in the 50's.

[LizardState]

Iupati, Davis, Staley, Baas, everybody on the OL is moving undersized Denver D-linemen around all day. Is Rachal playing? If so he is isnt sucking for a chg.

Great pass by Troy for a 1st dn, the 9ers may have found a QB! He faked out the rushing lineman, had that been Alex it wouldve been a sack & maybe a fumble lost

[SuperMcGee]

sooner or later Haley's gambler philosophy will cost us

Hoping it's as soon as possible.

Jeebs, even after the comments I didn't expect Plamer's TD to be that bad.

[LizardState]

9ers defense needs to hold a lead, just to say they did it once this yr.

[Mr.Regular]

Because you have 123 total yards?
I mean why aren't we capitalizing on the Jets mistakes/crappy play so far.
Extremely frustrating, the Jets are trying to give this game away. I guess we are too.

[PackerLegend]

How the **** are we only up by 3?

I dont think we deserve to be up by more. Haven't played that good IMO the defense has done pretty good so far though.

[Job]

Iupati, Davis, Staley, Baas, everybody on the OL is moving undersized Denver D-linemen around all day. Is Rachal playing? If so he is isnt sucking for a chg.

Great pass by Troy for a 1st dn, the 9ers may have found a QB! He faked out the rushing lineman, had that been Alex it wouldve been a sack & maybe a fumble lost

Why isn't Nate Davis starting yet?

[LizardState]

No Denver D-lineman in a 3-point stance, don't want to get their gloves dirty.

Against that crap the Raiders & McFadden ran wild, 9ers get a 2-yd loss & punt. I'm waiting for Singletary to waste their 3rd TO for another inspirational speech.

[BeerBaron]

Why isn't Nate Davis starting yet?

He was cut and signed to the practice squad to make room for Troy iirc. They had that much faith in him. I'd be embarrassed to be demoted for Troy Smith....

[umphrey]

I dont think we deserve to be up by more. Haven't played that good IMO the defense has done pretty good so far though.

Both defenses are playing really well and both offenses are playing pretty meh

We have 0 turnovers and 0 penalties...I kind of wish we had more so I could say at least we're moving the ball well but Rodgers has thrown away about 8 passes in 20 attempts and we only ran the ball a couple of times with a long of 4 I think without the garbage time run.

[LizardState]

taylor mays might want to cover Brandon Lloyd

[The Unseen]

Holy **** MSW

[yo123]

Nice ball skills Jenkins.

[Woody56]

Taylor Mays 4.2 speed just got toasted by Brandon Lloyd

[General Zod]

Tebow fever crazy in the UK! woooo!!1!!11! lol

[yo123]

Tebowwwzzzzz!!!!

[LizardState]

Denver pays Tebow for TD runs inside the 5 exclusively. Their Wrs can toast 9er rookie DBs all afternoon.

[BeerBaron]

taylor mays might want to cover Brandon Lloyd

lol....things funny to see in the same sentence.

[M.O.T.H.]

hahahahahaha. Damn we have a bad team.

[The Unseen]

Mike Thomas first TD! WOOOOOOOO

[LizardState]

Denver, hold out your hands: here's your turnover if SF holds true to form. Playing catchup with them = turnover, you can set your watch by it

[Babylon]

Special teams are going to haunt Green Bay all year from what i've seen.

[FuzzyGopher]

God damn. McNabb is awful.

[General Zod]

lol....things funny to see in the same sentence.

Id still take him over any of the Vikings safties on the roster.

[Babylon]

hahahahahaha. Damn we have a bad team.

Whatever happened to Stephen McGee?

[LizardState]

At least Troy Smith can throw on the run, Josh Morgan inside the 40.

Morgan is the most underrated possession receiver in the league.

Troy SMith jacked up a Bronco on the reverse direction. Troy Smith is a gamer!

52-yarder no good, c'mon Nedney you're in damn dome!

[keylime_5]

James Laurinaitis is having a monster game today. He looks like the white Ray Lewis today.

[yo123]

Id still take him over any of the Vikings safties on the roster.



Our safety play has actually been very improved from last year. *knock on wood*

I still wanted us to take Mays though.

[derza222]

Santonio Holmes had a lot of open field if he was able to pull that one in...bad drop. Just an ugly game for the Jets so far.

[M.O.T.H.]

Whatever happened to Stephen McGee?

He's awful. Well...he had one good preseason game, but he's been pretty terrible in camp and the majority of his game time. I wouldnt trust him out there...he may get in there after a few more losses.

There you go Sammy.

[M.O.T.H.]

Roy you bum. And another tipped INT, potentially.

We're righ there with the Giants in this regard.

[The Unseen]

If this stands...lmao Cowboys

[wonderbredd24]

lol....things funny to see in the same sentence.

He wishes he was TJ Ward

[The Unseen]

If this stands...lmao Cowboys

lmao Cowboys

[Ness]

Orton got blasted. Looks like it might be Tim Tebow time.

[FuzzyGopher]

That Roy Williams comeback tour was short lived. He has now gone back to sucking.