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yourfavestoner
11-06-2010, 12:53 AM
I'm gonna go get a new TV this weekend. It'll be my first, nice HDTV so I need some advice. My budget is around $900 total, after taxes and (preferably) a warranty.

First, how important is 60hz vs 120 hz. I understand that it has to do with framerate, but I've read that nothing even broadcasts in 120 hz, so it's kind of a useless feature. Is this true? Will it affect HD gaming and how much? Sports broadcasts? Those are gonna be the main things I use the TV for.

Here's some of the ones I'm looking at. It's gotta be from Best Buy, too, cause I just got a Best Buy credit card.

LG - 47" Class / 1080p / 60Hz / LCD HDTV - Glossy Black (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+-+47%22+Class+/+1080p+/+60Hz+/+LCD+HDTV+-+Glossy+Black/9933082.p?id=1218197361900&skuId=9933082)

LG - 42" Class / 1080p / 120Hz / LCD HDTV (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+-+42%22+Class+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9791077.p?id=1218175545494&skuId=9791077)

Toshiba - 46" Class / 1080p / 120Hz / LCD HDTV (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+46%22+Class+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+LCD+HDTV/9835115.p?id=1218181016262&skuId=9835115)

Can anybody point me in the right direction?

yourfavestoner
11-06-2010, 01:08 AM
Doing some more research...

Looks like 120 Hz is good for gaming on the LEDs and LED-LCD's because it helps with motion blur. The difference isn't hugely noticeable, though.

Plasmas are better for gaming because there's no motion blur, but they have mad glare.

That's what I'm reading anyways.

Forenci
11-06-2010, 01:11 AM
I recommend the Sony Bravia series. I got it for a little less than your budget and it's superb. Sony makes fantastic TV's. Make sure you get a warranty on it though in fear of dead pixels (for whatever TV you buy).

Ideally if you will use it for games you want a low MS response time. Less than 4ms is usually fine. High contrast is ideal.

It was my first HDTV too and anything less is dreadful to me now. Playing video games on it is unreal.

jayceheathman
11-06-2010, 01:26 AM
This one is pretty sweet.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+42%22+Class+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+LED-LCD+HDTV+w/+Apple+iPod+Dock/9809905.p?id=1218177168317&skuId=9809905

TitansCJftw
11-06-2010, 01:31 AM
edit-not best buy, but wait for black friday

Borat
11-06-2010, 02:17 AM
YFS, wait for Black Friday and you should be able to get a higher-end one within your price range.

yourfavestoner
11-06-2010, 02:23 AM
Can't wait till black Friday. Old TV took a crap, and I'm without one.

Not only that, but I'm not camping out or any of that ****.

TitansCJftw
11-06-2010, 02:43 AM
Not only that, but I'm not camping out or any of that ****.

good news as far as that is concerned everything black friday these days is available is online

KCJ58
11-06-2010, 04:30 AM
there called nerds

Giantsfan1080
11-06-2010, 08:28 AM
I'm a fan of Samsung.

Caddy
11-06-2010, 08:42 AM
I have a 42inch LG and I absolutely love it.

LizardState
11-06-2010, 08:44 AM
Plasmas are better for gaming because there's no motion blur, but they have mad glare.

True. huge flat screens are overhyped status symbols IMO & not worth their price tags. Some are buggier than a Louisiana windshield too, not worth it.

Speaking of which, avoid Toshiba, very poor quality control in most product lines, their laptops are crap.

You might find something in your price range at an electronics store like Best Buy or Fry's but you might get more bang for your buck at a dept. store like Sears with a 47" Sony or whatever, BB & Fry's have huge markups & sleazy pushy salesppl.

Forenci
11-06-2010, 10:17 AM
I wouldn't touch a plasma, but that's just me. As long as you get an LCD with less than 4ms response time you'll be fine for gaming. Some TV's have a "gaming mode" to reduce it even.

Brent
11-06-2010, 10:41 AM
you shouldnt get a plasma

go for the LCD; LED if you can afford it.

I have a Sony that I love. I would suggest a Sony Bravia

Forenci
11-06-2010, 10:44 AM
you shouldnt get a plasma

go for the LCD; LED if you can afford it.

I have a Sony that I love. I would suggest a Sony Bravia

See this is why I love you Brent. We both share love for the same TV line!

Brent
11-06-2010, 10:49 AM
See this is why I love you Brent. We both share love for the same TV line!
I would have purchased a Samsung LED if I had the cash

umphrey
11-06-2010, 10:51 AM
I've been looking at HDTVs and the LEDs look night and day better than the LCDs.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
11-06-2010, 10:53 AM
Don't get a plasma, especially if its in a bright room. The screen will burn out/not look good when watching.

nepg
11-06-2010, 12:02 PM
Sony Bravia or Samsung.

Personally, I have the 42" Insignia plasma TV that Best Buy sells for ~$400 and think it's pretty sweet.

Nalej
11-06-2010, 01:42 PM
I have a 52" Sony Bravia and it's the ****
Greatest investment. Everything looks good on this thing

SeanTaylorRIP
11-06-2010, 01:47 PM
I have my own question. We and my roomates are looking to buy either a 73" or 82" HDTV for our huge living room just in time of the Pacman fight next weekend. For a TV that big is DLP the only option? Haven't seen any LCD or Plasma's that big. I'm looking at this TV: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mitsubishi+-+Home+Cinema+/+82%22+Class+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+3D+DLP+HDTV/9837177.p?id=1218181914927&skuId=9837177

Except I'm getting it at the Big Screen store and they are cutting me a deal for $2900 including free delivery and hauling off our heavy ass old big screen projection.

VoteLynnSwan
11-06-2010, 01:50 PM
Go in to best buy and compare the TVs side by side. I've done this, and Samsung is clearly the best quality picture.

Also, I can tell the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz... but maybe I'm just special. 60Hz is frustrating to watch.

bigbluedefense
11-06-2010, 01:52 PM
I recommend the Sony Bravia series. I got it for a little less than your budget and it's superb. Sony makes fantastic TV's. Make sure you get a warranty on it though in fear of dead pixels (for whatever TV you buy).

Ideally if you will use it for games you want a low MS response time. Less than 4ms is usually fine. High contrast is ideal.

It was my first HDTV too and anything less is dreadful to me now. Playing video games on it is unreal.

Sony charges you 1000 extra bucks for the same thing you can get from Panasonic, LG, Samsung etc.

You're paying for the name, not the technology. That's why Sony's sales have gone down so much recently.

bigbluedefense
11-06-2010, 01:54 PM
I have a Panasonic Viera Plasma. They're the best. Nothing compares to their quality as far as picture goes.

Plasmas cost you more on your monthly bill though bc they take in more juice.

But you can get a kickass Panasonic Viera right now. Now is a great time to buy a TV, bc everybody is making 3D TVs which are stupid bc they won't be applicable until 3-4 years from now anyway, but it has dramatically brought down the price of LCDs and Plasmas.

Don't get an LED, they're ripoffs.

If you're going LCD, I'd recommend Samsung.

Forenci
11-06-2010, 02:16 PM
Sony charges you 1000 extra bucks for the same thing you can get from Panasonic, LG, Samsung etc.

You're paying for the name, not the technology. That's why Sony's sales have gone down so much recently.

Wha? I got my Sony for a damn good price. I would have been all for getting a LG or Samsung, but it was the same price as other TV's and better quality.

chief_fan88
11-06-2010, 05:36 PM
Another reason to not get a plasma is they are pretty much dieing off, my dad works on tv's and told me when i was looking for a new one that it's almost gonna be cheaper to buy a new tv than replace parts on the plasma.

I personally like Samsung, i have 2 one 46" LED and a 27" LCD that i use as a computer moniter, the only bad thing is if you don't have Surround sound system the tv speakers suck, but picture quality especially the LED is the amazing. But i was down to LG and Samsung, i know my dad likes LG the best and he works on them so take it for what its worth.

M.O.T.H.
11-06-2010, 06:42 PM
Go in to best buy and compare the TVs side by side. I've done this, and Samsung is clearly the best quality picture.

Also, I can tell the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz... but maybe I'm just special. 60Hz is frustrating to watch.

I cant tell the difference at all, or I'm just not paying close enough attention.

I love my 40" Sony Bravia. 1080P/60 Hz.

This one could be had for under $600 now at Walmart. I paid closer to $700, a few months ago.

While we're on the topic...I was going to buy my parents one of those 26" 720P Vizio's that were on sale today at Walmart...but they sold out right in front of me. Like the person ahead of me got the last one. So, I'll have to wait to buy one online during black friday. But yeah, a 26" for $198? Cant really beat that...and it's not like it was some bum **** brand, either. I'm a little disappointed I couldnt get one.

Just an FYI...Walmart is also selling a 32" Vizio for $298 this weekend as well.

ElectricEye
11-06-2010, 07:07 PM
I cant tell the difference at all, or I'm just not paying close enough attention.

I love my 40" Sony Bravia. 1080P/60 Hz.

This one could be had for under $600 now at Walmart. I paid closer to $700, a few months ago.

While we're on the topic...I was going to buy my parents one of those 26" 720P Vizio's that were on sale today at Walmart...but they sold out right in front of me. Like the person ahead of me got the last one. So, I'll have to wait to buy one online during black friday. But yeah, a 26" for $198? Cant really beat that...and it's not like it was some bum **** brand, either. I'm a little disappointed I couldnt get one.

Just an FYI...Walmart is also selling a 32" Vizio for $298 this weekend as well.
****, I might need to take a trip down to Walmart. Is that a 720p one as well?

M.O.T.H.
11-06-2010, 07:08 PM
****, I might need to take a trip down to Walmart. Is that a 720p one as well?

Yep it is. I would have picked one up if I brought more money with me.

thule
11-06-2010, 07:12 PM
Honestly if you are looking to get most bang for your buck you have to watch slickdeals.net

Vizio 55" Class LCD 1080p 120Hz HDTV, E550VL
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?dest=9999999997&product_id=13904842&sourceid=03366663931161079341&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY

For $900 you can get that TV. if you are ok with 47 you can save $200 on the same model as above.

This TV isn't top of the line...but Vizio is establishing a great name...and top of the line vizios grade out just below top of the line samsung...the best TV's on the market.

Price:Use ratio is definitely something to keep in mind. But since your budget is only $900 you aren't looking for top of the line anyways.

ElectricEye
11-06-2010, 07:39 PM
I like Vizio's TV's a lot. My friend has one and not only is the picture sharp, but it looks very nice in his living room and the UI on it is nice as well. Not sure I shouldn't wait until I can save up a little extra cash and get a full 1080p one though.

M.O.T.H.
11-06-2010, 07:44 PM
I actually preferred gaming on my 720P TV in a lot of cases. So many video games struggle in 1080P...I mean it still looks nice, just not as nice as playing a 720P native game on a 720P television. Even when I set my tv to 720...it still doesnt look as good as my old tv. Texture problems can creep up.

That said...many a game look beautiful still on the 1080p tv.

But yeah, if I was in the market for a tv for myself...I would go for the 1080, especially if you have an HD box/blu ray player. Sexy. The 1080s are getting cheaper and cheaper, too.

ElectricEye
11-06-2010, 07:47 PM
Yeah, I've heard similar things before. Not sure. That's a real nice price, but buying a HDMI computer monitor of a similar size and a comparable size might be a better decision for me at this point it time. Picture is actually nicer on those in most cases too.

This one is pretty much perfect for me size and capability wise, but is just a little out of my price range at the moment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001392

jayceheathman
11-06-2010, 10:50 PM
I've been looking at HDTVs and the LEDs look night and day better than the LCDs.

That is why they are also more expensive. If you are going to be watching tv in a darker setting then plasmas aren't a bad route to go and are better for watching sports than LCD's. Granted, they are also super heavy and a pain to set up. Sony gave up producing plasmas and it seems like other companies are doing the same. Might be able to get one on the cheep side.

jayceheathman
11-06-2010, 10:52 PM
Another reason to not get a plasma is they are pretty much dieing off, my dad works on tv's and told me when i was looking for a new one that it's almost gonna be cheaper to buy a new tv than replace parts on the plasma.

I personally like Samsung, i have 2 one 46" LED and a 27" LCD that i use as a computer moniter, the only bad thing is if you don't have Surround sound system the tv speakers suck, but picture quality especially the LED is the amazing. But i was down to LG and Samsung, i know my dad likes LG the best and he works on them so take it for what its worth.

That is what definitely sucks about flat screens. They definitely lack in sound and you at least will need a decent sound bar.

PackerLegend
11-07-2010, 12:58 AM
I have a 50" 1080p Samsung Plasma. Have my PS3 hooked up with HDMI cables and it looks amazing absolutely cannot get better. Football games look very good especially if you get the channels in HD then they are also amazing. I don't have an HD box hooked up just cable but I have found thd local channels CBS NBC ABC FOX broadcasted in full HD without an they look great.

Screen burn is a concern but ive had no problems. Logos and stuff that stay in 1 spot for hours on end might show up if you look really really hard but I don't notice them ever. It disappears completely after a bit anyways plus I have screen burn protection. When I bought it I was told it uses more electricity but havent really noticed.

Mine is like 4ish years old id guess.. Absolutely love it. When I got it the TV is was pretty expensive now they have dropped a whole lot ard I could buy two for the price of mine.

M.O.T.H.
11-07-2010, 06:41 AM
I just bought one of those $298 32" Vizio's for my parents for christmas. Tis a good deal...I still wanted the 26", but they were all sold out.