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thule
11-08-2010, 07:20 PM
I'd like to start this post off by saying this is what I would do not what I think will be done.

Pre Free Agency

Don't resign - 6, 4 starters
Alan Ball - project failed
Alex Barron
Jason Hatcher
Kyle Koiser
Gerald Sensabaugh
Marcus Spears

This is probably the hardest decision. Taking a quick look at this list I think I'd probably have to keep one of the DE's. I'm going with Bowen because he can also contribute as a pass rusher inside in 40 fronts. I actually like Sensabaugh but maybe you can find something better. I also like Koiser but he just can't stay healthy and isn't getting any younger.

Resign
Doug Free
Sam Hurd
Stephen Bowen

Cuts - 5, 5 starters
Marion Barber - cut him now and save 24 million over the rest of his contract.
Keith Brooking - save around 2 million
Marc Columbo - save 17 million in base salary over the course of his deal
Leonard Davis - Save 12 million over last 3 years...owe him 6 still from bonuses.
Roy Williams - Save over 30 million over next 4 years...he's nice player but money can be better spent.

Restructure
Terrence Newman - he's deal declines over the rest of his years...but he needs to restructure. If not i'd cut him because he isn't worth near 10 million a year with his performance...I do like him tho. Think he should able to play as a nickel cb for atleast 3-4 more years at a high level.

Right away you see 11 roster spots open up. 9 of them are starting positions...that is about as close to blowing up a team as you'll see nowadays. The big reason I make all these cuts is because this is an uncapped year and this is when you can rid yourself of bad contracts. Barbers and Roy Williams is the worst so they have to go although they aren't awful players by any means. Brooking/Columbo/LD are just past their primes and aren't worth the dollars they are getting anymore. Only money we have going out is a new deal to Free....it's essential we get him back...versatility is key with him...I love him at LT...but he can also play right effectively too.


Free Agency
Jared Gaither, BAL
Matt Light, NE
Jermon Bushrod, NO
Carl Nicks, NO
Logan Mankins, NE
Justin Blalock, ATL
Johnny Jolly, GB - legal issues
Cullen Jenkins, GB
Antoine Bethea, IND
Bernard Pollard, HOU

Need 2 OL out of that class. And the hardest thing I think that there is to project right now is what defense we are going to run. I think of likely hires and they all seem to run a 4-3 defense. That said I'm not going to go deep into the DL guys...if we run a 40 front obviously things will change. But we definitely need some more bodies on the DL because we let older pieces go.

One thing to keep in mind is the CB in FA. It is a amazing this year with talent...if you wanted to move Newman you could add another body from FA...but cost would likely be the same if not more.

The safety class is pretty weak...so maybe this is why you keep sensabaugh around because don't really see anyone that sticks out...that said a body is going to have to be signed whether it's sensy or someone else.

Post FA
We have to pick up 2 starting OL...preferably a OT and a OG. That said if we see a RT we like in the draft going inside twice would make sense.

We also need to add a body to the DL. Depending on what front we go with it should probably be a DE in a 30 or a DT in a 40. I have a hunch Shaun Rogers will be cut after this season...I have no problem with adding him to rotate with Brent. I am moving Ratliff to DE if I stay in 30 front and probably have him and Bowen starting. That said tons of 5-techs in this draft so you could easily get by with drafting one early and starting them from day 1.

Last food for thought is LBers. Lee is starting regardless...and I can't see James leaving until the next year. That said if we go to a 40 front we are going to be looking for a pure Will backer. There are a few of them in FA to look at. Either way I don't see a starter getting added if we stick with the 34.


Draft
I'm going to assume we finish with the 4th pick here...moderately conservative...but this should be about right. If we pick #1 idc how talented you think this team is...there is a deep seeded problem and rebuilding is very necessary. That is why I'd go Luck..he gives us a bigger window to win than with Romo..and while I love Romo we can't just look to win in the next 2 years...

That said
#4 targets
Patrick Peterson*, CB, LSU - I think he can be a difference maker at safety early...if you get a shot at him you have to go with him. It'll depend on who picks first Dallas or Detroit.

Marcell Dareus*, DE/DT, Alabama - This guy is also just one of those players that when you put on the tape he looks like he is just on another level physically. He looks like a man amongst boys. He isn't quite the caliber that Suh was coming out...but right behind him I'd say. If we miss out on Peterson he is a fine consolation prize.

Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska - Lastly I love Prince on the field...think he'll come in and contribute early in his career. I love him as a press corner and think he's the total package. That said pick 4 might be a little high for him being that he isn't suppose to test out as an elite prospect...so I nice guy to look to move down for. Hopefully QB's like Mallett and Locker up their status's so that moving into the top 5 has substance...because doesn't look like a OT will be a position for teams to move up.

2nd Round Targets
Mike Pouncey, C/G, Florida
Joseph Barksdale, OT, LSU
Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

When I break down this draft class I see there is dirty starting value in the 30-40 range. These guys probably won't make it to the pro bowl...but they should be able to contribute early as all three have starting experience on good teams for multiple years. RT or RG looks likely here. Outside shot at CB if we go elsewhere early. However I think that the top DL will be off the board and it's a bit of a drop off after the top tier of DL go.

3rd on down
Jaiquawn Jarrett, FS, Temple
Titus Young, WR, Boise State
Benjamin Ijalana, G/OT, Villanova
Cedric Thornton, DE/DT, Central Arkansas
Caleb King*, RB, Georgia

I noted in a previous post that I liked both of these players based just off of what i've read this year. Both guys I'd be comfortable asking to start I think. Jarrett is underrated and I like him more than anyone except Deunta Williams but I think Jarrett later is a better value.

Lastly you could probably add a WR and RB late along with a LB.

That said here is the changes I'd make from 2010-2011

Patrick Peterson - Alan Ball
Sam Young - Alex Barron
Cedric Thornton - Jason Hatcher
Carl Nicks - Leonard Davis
Logan Mankins - Kyle Koiser
Bernard Pollard - Gerald Sensabaugh
Johnny Jolly - Marcus Spears
Caleb King - Marion Barber
Sean Lee - Keith Brooking
Joseph Barksdale - Marc Columbo
Sam Hurd/Titus Young - Roy Williams

Main theme here. Retool OL. Pick a defense and build it stronger up the middle. Need to get a playmaker at safety.

LizardState
11-08-2010, 07:40 PM
Good post, Ultima Thule.

Cuts: Marcus Spears

I agree, cut Spears & keep Olshansky if comes down to one. And you want younger legs at DE, maybe more so than any other defensive spot except corner.

Hopefully Barber could restructure but retaining Choice, who I think has never fully been given his shot, would be an adequate compnsation & draft in late rds for RB depth.

D-Unit
11-08-2010, 07:48 PM
Excellente! I was typing up my own, so I'll put it here afterwards. Only real difference was mine was focused solely on the OL... and I didn't think we could do it in 1 year. Mine was a 2 year plan, based mainly off the idea that we wouldn't land 2 OL in FA. Just one. If we could land 2, which is very possible, then I could see us being drastically improved in 1 offseason. But yeah, you'll see it later.

I like where you have us heading. That's an aggressive plan, but I like it overall. Question... which 2 OL would you take if you could aim for 2? I've soured on Gaither...just too many injury concerns. Light is too old. I never liked Bushrod, especially after we manhandled him last year, but I hear Saints fans like him. I loved Nicks in the draft and he has only impressed in the NFL, so I would love to target him. Plus I think he's gettable. Saints gave Jahri Evans a huge contract last year and I think it would be tough for them to tie up 2 high priced guards. Blalock obviously would be my #1 choice, but I think ATL locks him up.

I'll make some more comments later. I'm leaving now.

J-Mike88
11-08-2010, 07:58 PM
Gotta keep #72 on the team.

Would any of you trade Felix for a 2nd round pick?
To Mia or NE maybe?
Not much of a market for RBs out there.

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11-08-2010, 08:11 PM
Thule, I agree with pretty much everything.

O-line must be revamped. 2 in free agency, and 2 in the top 4 rounds. Free must be re-signed, and maybe you take back Kosier for cheap and move Gurode to guard. Small (yes, I am now calling leonard davis small, that *****) and colombo need to be gone. And I want maulers. We can have a finesse right tackle I guess, but I want the guards to be BEASTS.

D-line. Ratliff and brent are keepers. I wouldn't mind moving Ratliff to DE. Igor, bring to training camp. Bowen needs to be re-signed, Hatcher could be back. I still like his potential. Spears... PEACE.

Linebacker, I think James deserves to be back. He is actually having a good year. He is playing with some type of heart, the most you can play with on this team. Brooking is gone, unless he wants to play for free. Lee is the starter by default, judging by that video and his work ethic I expect him to be atleast solid.

Secondary, secondary, secondary. This is my one disagreement with you.. Sensabaugh is a JAG. We need both safeties to be new starters. Cornerback, you can't give up on Jenkins, just have to hope he bounces back. Scandrick, you take him to training camp and see what happens. Newman, who knows if he'll be willing to restructured, but he deserves to be back. Peterson would be nice.

Running back. Choice needs to start. We need is energy and enthusiasm. Barber, get out. You've been an honorable cowboy, but you trip over your own feet after every 3 steps. I'll toss him to a team for a 6th rounder. Felix, find situations to get him in space. He isn't an every down guy. Sorry. Draft another guy who runs north and south in the later rounds.

As for receivers and tight ends, Bennett is a bust, time to cut the ties. Phillips coming back will be big. The kid is a BALLER. Witten will do his thing. Miles and Dez on the outside should be dominant. Hurd in the slot. Ogletree? Bring him to training camp.

So, like it's been stated, revamp the o-line, almost revamp the d-line, draft peterson, oh and having a BOOT CAMP TRAINING CAMP.

thule
11-08-2010, 08:18 PM
Good post, Ultima Thule.



I agree, cut Spears & keep Olshansky if comes down to one. And you want younger legs at DE, maybe more so than any other defensive spot except corner.

Hopefully Barber could restructure but retaining Choice, who I think has never fully been given his shot, would be an adequate compnsation & draft in late rds for RB depth.

Just to clarify.

Spears is a FA after this year...so we aren't cutting him...we just aren't offering him a new deal. However that said if we stay in a 30 front I don't have a big problem bringing him back as long as the deal is reasonable...I've been a huge Spears downer in the past and still I'm not a fan...but that said you can only address so many holes in a season.

And Olshansky is under contract. Now I no way think that he is playing anywhere above average for us...but similar to Spears you can only address so many holes in an offseason. Plus he is a average player making average dollars...unlike the others that appear in the cut section.

xxxxxxxx
11-08-2010, 08:19 PM
Atleast Garrett sounded like a boss in his presser...

Thule, what are your thoughts on the coaching prospects this off-season?

You left that out.

thule
11-08-2010, 08:20 PM
Gotta keep #72 on the team.

Would any of you trade Felix for a 2nd round pick?
To Mia or NE maybe?
Not much of a market for RBs out there.

#72 is Bowen, and he is the one out of the 3 5-techs that I decided to keep that were going into FA.

Felix isn't going anywhere. He's proven he can get it done...with a average OL in front of him I think we'll see his numbers go back up. We are talking about someone who was on pace to break the NFL record for highest YPC his rookie year. Blocking is the failure in the running game....Barber is only out because his cap number exceeds his production.

thule
11-08-2010, 08:24 PM
Excellente! I was typing up my own, so I'll put it here afterwards. Only real difference was mine was focused solely on the OL... and I didn't think we could do it in 1 year. Mine was a 2 year plan, based mainly off the idea that we wouldn't land 2 OL in FA. Just one. If we could land 2, which is very possible, then I could see us being drastically improved in 1 offseason. But yeah, you'll see it later.

I like where you have us heading. That's an aggressive plan, but I like it overall. Question... which 2 OL would you take if you could aim for 2? I've soured on Gaither...just too many injury concerns. Light is too old. I never liked Bushrod, especially after we manhandled him last year, but I hear Saints fans like him. I loved Nicks in the draft and he has only impressed in the NFL, so I would love to target him. Plus I think he's gettable. Saints gave Jahri Evans a huge contract last year and I think it would be tough for them to tie up 2 high priced guards. Blalock obviously would be my #1 choice, but I think ATL locks him up.

I'll make some more comments later. I'm leaving now.

I think ideally we go interior OL in FA and then draft a RT. That said I'm not opposed to getting just one interior guy in FA and going RT in the draft. While Holland isn't anything better than average on a good day he has starting experience and aside from mobility he has done a decent job when inserted into the starting lineup. Interior OL depth would need to be addressed...but if we can bring in 1 talent from FA...the top of the 2nd round is a great spot to pick up another starter. RT/OG.

Ya just for the reports I'd like to target Nicks. But I also wouldn't mind going after either Patriot guy...one of them should see the market...that said I also tend to go with white OL.

thule
11-08-2010, 08:36 PM
Thule, I agree with pretty much everything.

O-line must be revamped. 2 in free agency, and 2 in the top 4 rounds. Free must be re-signed, and maybe you take back Kosier for cheap and move Gurode to guard. Small (yes, I am now calling leonard davis small, that *****) and colombo need to be gone. And I want maulers. We can have a finesse right tackle I guess, but I want the guards to be BEASTS.

D-line. Ratliff and brent are keepers. I wouldn't mind moving Ratliff to DE. Igor, bring to training camp. Bowen needs to be re-signed, Hatcher could be back. I still like his potential. Spears... PEACE.

Linebacker, I think James deserves to be back. He is actually having a good year. He is playing with some type of heart, the most you can play with on this team. Brooking is gone, unless he wants to play for free. Lee is the starter by default, judging by that video and his work ethic I expect him to be atleast solid.

Secondary, secondary, secondary. This is my one disagreement with you.. Sensabaugh is a JAG. We need both safeties to be new starters. Cornerback, you can't give up on Jenkins, just have to hope he bounces back. Scandrick, you take him to training camp and see what happens. Newman, who knows if he'll be willing to restructured, but he deserves to be back. Peterson would be nice.

Running back. Choice needs to start. We need is energy and enthusiasm. Barber, get out. You've been an honorable cowboy, but you trip over your own feet after every 3 steps. I'll toss him to a team for a 6th rounder. Felix, find situations to get him in space. He isn't an every down guy. Sorry. Draft another guy who runs north and south in the later rounds.

As for receivers and tight ends, Bennett is a bust, time to cut the ties. Phillips coming back will be big. The kid is a BALLER. Witten will do his thing. Miles and Dez on the outside should be dominant. Hurd in the slot. Ogletree? Bring him to training camp.

So, like it's been stated, revamp the o-line, almost revamp the d-line, draft peterson, oh and having a BOOT CAMP TRAINING CAMP.

Just for topics of discussion.

I'd bring back Spears before Hatcher because at least Spears has proven durable over his career...Hatcher just can't stay healthy.

You disagree with me on the secondary...but look at FA...unless some unforseeable cuts are made which is extremely possible, it looks to be slim pickings. Very rarely do you see a top flight S available in FA...who is the last one even...all the ones that do seem to be past their primes anyways? I like Peterson as a football player...I don't think he is someone who is going to come in right away tho and shut down one side of the field. Peterson is more of a piece of clay. And although he is suppose to have elite speed he does have safety esque qualities. I think with the lack of FA depth and lack of S talent in this draft class that maybe you have him make the switch and then just coach coach coach.

I'll disagree that choice needs to start...I have no problem with him being the 3rd down back tho. He needs to see the field...and splitting carries between the 2 shouldn't be an issue. But what it ultimately comes down to from my pov is you have to give your gamebreakers enough touches to break the game. Felix has it whether it's shown this year or not...he does have it and has proven it on the NFL level. He needs more touches than Choice...but that said Choice has proven he can get it done in the NFL also so he has earned the touches coming his way.

Why cut Bennett? He has improved every year here. He is a very important staple of our running game...he is a above average blocker for the position and he is only scheduled to make less than a million dollars. Plus he is still like 22 years old. No reason to cut him...he might come off as immature but it's not like he is a locker room cancer. Depth is a good thing...you don't cut players who aren't meeting their expectations when they are cheap and servicable. Look at Marcus Spears...very similar views on those two. Both are just average guys...can't have superstars everywhere at every level.

JJJ888
11-08-2010, 08:38 PM
There's one clear solution to fixing the Cowboys offensive line problems (and therefore the whole team): bring back Cory Procter. Bigg and Columbo have clearly gone astray without their Heavy Metal buddy. Bring the band back together, and BOOM!--Cowboys win out, all the way to the Super Bowl.

In fact, we should probably just let Cory Procter coach the team. He'll probably call better plays than Garrett, and will definitely be more inspirational.

Xiomera
11-08-2010, 08:45 PM
There's one clear solution to fixing the Cowboys offensive line problems (and therefore the whole team): bring back Cory Procter. Bigg and Columbo have clearly gone astray without their Heavy Metal buddy. Bring the band back together, and BOOM!--Cowboys win out, all the way to the Super Bowl.

In fact, we should probably just let Cory Procter coach the team. He'll probably call better plays than Garrett, and will definitely be more inspirational.

TRIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPS!

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11-08-2010, 08:46 PM
Thule, I will admit I am wrong with Bennett. Didn't know his contract situation. But, Phillips should be #2 coming into next years training camp.

Does anyone know John Phillips Contract situation?

Edit: 4 year deal. through 2012

thule
11-08-2010, 08:55 PM
Thule, I will admit I am wrong with Bennett. Didn't know his contract situation. But, Phillips should be #2 coming into next years training camp.

Does anyone know John Phillips Contract situation?

2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000,

for the record Bennett is actually making just over 500k, so it's less than i originally said.

Competition is a good thing...noone needs to be penciled in as a starter on this team...Bennett/Phillips can battle it out for the 2nd spot...there should be no entitlement on this team.

dsc1600
11-10-2010, 10:17 AM
I think you're right on Columbo being overpaid, but I don't know if it makes sense to cut him and Davis in the same year. I think he's got another year left of decent play. Better option than sending an untested rookie out there.

I also think you keep Sensabaugh, agree he's a JAG, but every team has a few of those guys and he would be good depth even if you found a starter there.

I really think we need to address pash rush as well. We just aren't getting to the QB, interested to see what if any difference there'll be post-Wade in the next 8 games.

E-Man
11-10-2010, 11:52 AM
The line needs to be redone, but I'd keep three of them just to make the transition easier for younger guys. Davis makes too much and should be gone, and Columbo isn't much anymore. Both guys have run their course here and need to be cut. Keeping Free, Kosier, and Gurode gives at least some cohesion while inserting new starters on the right.

The only reason why I'd cut Barber is for money purposes, and I'd cut him since you have two good backs behind in him Felix and Choice. No matter who is the coach next season, the running game still will be important. You have two good backs already, so no need in trading either or them for anything unless some miracle falls in your lap.

Roy is the big question mark. Prior to Romo getting hurt he was looking like he'll have a Pro Bowl year with about 12 TDs. That's good and all, but Dez is slowly but surely growing into a great WR and Miles despite his drops is still having a pretty damn good year. Roy's contract makes it easier to cut him, but if they found a way to restructure it might work since he and Romo finally got some chemistry. To get more players though I'd cut him and free up some room.

On defense it really depends on what the scheme will be next year. If the new coach brings in a 4-3 then I'd focus more on getting linebackers. The switch would probably make the front 4 look like Ware, Ratliff, Igor/Bowen, Spencer. I'd be pretty content with that, but at backer what do you have? Lee and Bradie on the outside with Brooking on the inside? Bradie is stable but not great. I like Lee a lot, but his injury issues worry me. Brooking has heart, and I'd keep him but not as a starter. What linebackers are free agents that could come in and start for Brooking in the middle?

Even if they stick with a 3-4, something needs to be changed in the middle. It's just too wide open, and it has been for years. At D-line you could sign a guy to man the left end spot, or you could move Ratliff out there and get a nose. With the backers there needs to be a rock that makes teams think twice about throwing inside.

As far as the secondary goes, everyone is in agreement that at the very least Ball should never start a game again. Unless AOA looks spectacular in these last 8 games, it's time to go after a playmaker at FS. Everyone's eyes are on Patrick Peterson, and rightfully so. There's always a chance that you won't get him though. What if he doesn't come out, or what if someone ahead of them grabs him? There are a number of variables, so I wouldn't put all of my eggs in one basket with him. Hell what if you like Prince better and go after him instead? It could be a situation like Ware and Merriman where you go back in forth over who you like better up until it's time to pick. Either way it goes, that position needs to be addressed big time in the offseason. Even getting a vet in there for insurance while Peterson grows would be better than doing nothing like last year. Sensy isn't so bad. He reminds me a little bit of Kosier in the sense that fans dislike him a bit as a guy who brings nothing, but he's actually decent. He's no world beater at all, but he rarely causes problems and will occasionally make a play. He pairs well with Newman, and if you notice that side hasn't really been giving up too many points this year. Granted you have Ball, Scandrick, and an inconsistent Jenkins running around, but they still are pretty stable.

At corner you can go many different places. If Newman and Jenkins are still the starters it's not too bad considering that they're both good players. The key is getting a third corner that could come in and not be a liability. If it's a guy like Prince I'd be thrilled. The same thing if they decide to get Peterson and keep him at corner. A free agent would work here as well.

Trogdor
11-10-2010, 12:04 PM
Unless AOA looks spectacular in these last 8 games, it's time to go after a playmaker at FS.

We won't find out till next year. He had a high ankle sprain and he was put on IR along with Spears to make room for DE depth guys. AoA can eventually be that guy but with only one full TC and an offseason program (next year) and an under his belt along with not playing a true FS in college I think his odds of being 'that guy' are slim. He's a project and I think we're going to have to be patient. 100% agree on Ball. If he comes back it's as a 3rd/4th CB. He ALMOST makes me miss Hamlin. :mrgreen:

I think if we are top 5 we have to go with whatever value is present (i.e not offensive lineman). PP would probably be the most likely although I'm MUCH more interested in that high 2nd. Perhaps a guy like Gabe Carimi if he happens to slip there would be absolutely what the doctor ordered. Still too far out to find out how much stocks are going to make it's entirely possible a guy with Sherrod pushes his stock top 10... although I'm not buying him as our choice.

I hope that we are active in FA although not to the point of going overboard. This oline doesn't need to be replaced with Leonard Davis sized contracts. Going from below average to average would be enough to restart our struggling offense.

DiG
11-10-2010, 12:26 PM
damn thats one hell of an aggressive FA plan. It would be great but personally I find it quite unrealistic from the outside looking in.

LonghornsLegend
11-10-2010, 12:34 PM
Thule you honestly think were gonna get Carl Nicks and Logan Mankins in one off-season? I think that's wishful thinking at best, the chances of that happening are slim to none, hell those players may not even be FA's let alone end up on our team.


Also, we have to put FS on the board with our 2nd round pick. Deunta Williams and Rahim Moore will be available there, probably first crack at a safety with that pick, so we need to weight their value with a lineman there.

E-Man
11-10-2010, 03:07 PM
We won't find out till next year. He had a high ankle sprain and he was put on IR along with Spears to make room for DE depth guys. AoA can eventually be that guy but with only one full TC and an offseason program (next year) and an under his belt along with not playing a true FS in college I think his odds of being 'that guy' are slim. He's a project and I think we're going to have to be patient. 100% agree on Ball. If he comes back it's as a 3rd/4th CB. He ALMOST makes me miss Hamlin. :mrgreen:

I think if we are top 5 we have to go with whatever value is present (i.e not offensive lineman). PP would probably be the most likely although I'm MUCH more interested in that high 2nd. Perhaps a guy like Gabe Carimi if he happens to slip there would be absolutely what the doctor ordered. Still too far out to find out how much stocks are going to make it's entirely possible a guy with Sherrod pushes his stock top 10... although I'm not buying him as our choice.

I hope that we are active in FA although not to the point of going overboard. This oline doesn't need to be replaced with Leonard Davis sized contracts. Going from below average to average would be enough to restart our struggling offense.

Damn. I didn't know AOA was on IR now. It's worrying me that he and Lee seem to have injury issues. I like AOA as a project because he's at least decent as a return guy. McCann does look better as a returner though, so maybe he gets the 4th CB spot while AOA is a straight safety.

I absolutely agree on the O-line thing. No need for the bigger contracts that may bite you in the ass later. Look at what happened when Rivera came on board. They can fix the line with a good FA if they don't do what got them there in the first place.

thule
11-12-2010, 02:36 AM
I think you're right on Columbo being overpaid, but I don't know if it makes sense to cut him and Davis in the same year. I think he's got another year left of decent play. Better option than sending an untested rookie out there.

I also think you keep Sensabaugh, agree he's a JAG, but every team has a few of those guys and he would be good depth even if you found a starter there.

I really think we need to address pash rush as well. We just aren't getting to the QB, interested to see what if any difference there'll be post-Wade in the next 8 games.

Columbo is cut because he is playing worse than an average 30-40 RT selected in the draft. Guys like Loadholt or Marcus McNeil can step in from day one on the right side and give us the production that Columbo has given in 2010. Columbo has blown assignments and shown regression from a physical standpoint. Now if anything he should be more mental advanced with every year...but his physical disabilities are regressing way faster than his mental ones are growing. When that is the case it's time to move on...he's to the point where he's not even serviceable anymore. Anytime a team needs pressure they put their best rusher on him and tell them to get the edge...if he seals that he is almost always open to the inside as a secondary move. Now that sounds pretty generic...but on the field this year he just isn't getting it done. He has no more upside his knees are shot...he is getting more health concerns...just time to cut the losses and move on.

I actually like Sensabaugh which is surpising to say after the things he's done to cost us games. He doesn't get as much publicity as Jenkins...but Sensy is just as guilty as quitting on plays. He just does it better...he'll instead ingage a blocker and just allow himself to be blocked out of the picture. His 0 ball skills are what kills me...everytime you see him on the screen he has great coverage yet he doesn't make a play on the ball. I see that Minnesota TD in the super bowl last year on repeat....that is him in one play. His deficiencies with the run game this year also don't do a lot to say he has "earned" his spot on this team in 2011. He can honestly go one way or the other...with this weak S class maybe it's better to keep him...but he is a FA and he sure didn't do enough on the field to justify a new contract imo.

I think adding pressure to this scheme we need to get that impact 5-tech. Bowen/Brent/Ratliff are 3 guys that will be ok...but we need another impact player like Ratliff...good news is this looks do able in the draft.

thule
11-12-2010, 02:41 AM
The line needs to be redone, but I'd keep three of them just to make the transition easier for younger guys. Davis makes too much and should be gone, and Columbo isn't much anymore. Both guys have run their course here and need to be cut. Keeping Free, Kosier, and Gurode gives at least some cohesion while inserting new starters on the right.

The only reason why I'd cut Barber is for money purposes, and I'd cut him since you have two good backs behind in him Felix and Choice. No matter who is the coach next season, the running game still will be important. You have two good backs already, so no need in trading either or them for anything unless some miracle falls in your lap.

Roy is the big question mark. Prior to Romo getting hurt he was looking like he'll have a Pro Bowl year with about 12 TDs. That's good and all, but Dez is slowly but surely growing into a great WR and Miles despite his drops is still having a pretty damn good year. Roy's contract makes it easier to cut him, but if they found a way to restructure it might work since he and Romo finally got some chemistry. To get more players though I'd cut him and free up some room.

On defense it really depends on what the scheme will be next year. If the new coach brings in a 4-3 then I'd focus more on getting linebackers. The switch would probably make the front 4 look like Ware, Ratliff, Igor/Bowen, Spencer. I'd be pretty content with that, but at backer what do you have? Lee and Bradie on the outside with Brooking on the inside? Bradie is stable but not great. I like Lee a lot, but his injury issues worry me. Brooking has heart, and I'd keep him but not as a starter. What linebackers are free agents that could come in and start for Brooking in the middle?

Even if they stick with a 3-4, something needs to be changed in the middle. It's just too wide open, and it has been for years. At D-line you could sign a guy to man the left end spot, or you could move Ratliff out there and get a nose. With the backers there needs to be a rock that makes teams think twice about throwing inside.

As far as the secondary goes, everyone is in agreement that at the very least Ball should never start a game again. Unless AOA looks spectacular in these last 8 games, it's time to go after a playmaker at FS. Everyone's eyes are on Patrick Peterson, and rightfully so. There's always a chance that you won't get him though. What if he doesn't come out, or what if someone ahead of them grabs him? There are a number of variables, so I wouldn't put all of my eggs in one basket with him. Hell what if you like Prince better and go after him instead? It could be a situation like Ware and Merriman where you go back in forth over who you like better up until it's time to pick. Either way it goes, that position needs to be addressed big time in the offseason. Even getting a vet in there for insurance while Peterson grows would be better than doing nothing like last year. Sensy isn't so bad. He reminds me a little bit of Kosier in the sense that fans dislike him a bit as a guy who brings nothing, but he's actually decent. He's no world beater at all, but he rarely causes problems and will occasionally make a play. He pairs well with Newman, and if you notice that side hasn't really been giving up too many points this year. Granted you have Ball, Scandrick, and an inconsistent Jenkins running around, but they still are pretty stable.

At corner you can go many different places. If Newman and Jenkins are still the starters it's not too bad considering that they're both good players. The key is getting a third corner that could come in and not be a liability. If it's a guy like Prince I'd be thrilled. The same thing if they decide to get Peterson and keep him at corner. A free agent would work here as well.

You are really going to give another contract to Koiser....has he ever played a full season for us even? Injury concerns and age don't bode well for another contract...I'm not saying it'd be right or wrong..but I think you have to give that more thought then you did.

AOA is on IR so we won't get to see him this year. Don't think you can expect him to start next year either...so definitely need to find a starter at safety.

thule
11-12-2010, 02:44 AM
damn thats one hell of an aggressive FA plan. It would be great but personally I find it quite unrealistic from the outside looking in.

2 OL and 1 DL seem unrealistic?

I threw out some names that I thought we could look at targeting...namely the top players at the position of need. I didn't mean to infer that those named would all be dallas cowboys next year. Did you actually read or was this a browse...or do you think 3 starters is highly unlikely?

thule
11-12-2010, 02:50 AM
Thule you honestly think were gonna get Carl Nicks and Logan Mankins in one off-season? I think that's wishful thinking at best, the chances of that happening are slim to none, hell those players may not even be FA's let alone end up on our team.


Also, we have to put FS on the board with our 2nd round pick. Deunta Williams and Rahim Moore will be available there, probably first crack at a safety with that pick, so we need to weight their value with a lineman there.

Honestly I think we'll get 1 interior OL and probably start Holland next year. But ideally I think 2 OL in FA allow us a lot more flexibility. Now 2 top end interior OL isn't very likely I'll agree...but listing every interior OL seemed a bit like overkill. I also have no idea who will be coaching or what ties we'll have to other players that are available. I also have no idea who will actually be available and who won't...we should see quite a few cuts of bad contracts after this year so the FA crop should look a little different when it comes that time. I was just throwing up some names and trying to make it clear we need to sign one of the big names in FA. I probably didn't make that clear...but target a big time OG and target a middle of the line starter for the OL and a body for DL and that'd be perfect.

In this scenario I picked Patrick Peterson with the full intent of playing him at safety. If this is how the draft fell I still wouldn't be opposed to going with Deunta Williams in the draft...but that said I think we'd need to address OL or 5-tech more. I also don't know if character concerns will get him to drop out of the first round...that said I do like him and would openly draft him in the 2nd if we went a different direction in the first round. I'm not solid on Rahim Moore at all...he is as soft as they come and the picks have disappeared this year. I like Jarrett more to tell you the truth because he is a more well rounder player who can't be taken advantage of in certain situations.

D-Unit
11-12-2010, 03:37 PM
2 OL and 1 DL seem unrealistic?

I threw out some names that I thought we could look at targeting...namely the top players at the position of need. I didn't mean to infer that those named would all be dallas cowboys next year. Did you actually read or was this a browse...or do you think 3 starters is highly unlikely?
I don't think adding 3 FAs is unrealistic. Especially with the changes that are undoubtedly looming after the season. In fact, I'd say that's a conservative approach.

D-Unit
11-12-2010, 03:39 PM
Thule you honestly think were gonna get Carl Nicks and Logan Mankins in one off-season? I think that's wishful thinking at best, the chances of that happening are slim to none, hell those players may not even be FA's let alone end up on our team.


Also, we have to put FS on the board with our 2nd round pick. Deunta Williams and Rahim Moore will be available there, probably first crack at a safety with that pick, so we need to weight their value with a lineman there.
I'm hoping that we get 1 OG. 2 would really help to jump start our turn around, but I agree. Not sure which OL are going to be retained by their teams. I think we'll see some good OL released because of expensive contracts though. So there's a lot of unknowns.

As for Safety in Round 2... not happenin' if we take Peterson in the first.

D-Unit
11-14-2010, 01:41 PM
Players to be put on the block:
Martellus Bennett
Igor Olshansky
Orlando Scandrick

Release Players (if you can't find trades):
Roy Williams - $5M
Marion Barber - $4.25M
Bradie James - $3.5M
Leonard Davis - $6M
Andre Gurode - $5.5M
Marc Colombo - $1.9M
Clears up: $20-25M

I hope Barber isn't let go, but I definitely think the possibility is there. Williams is a goner. As is Davis. I think there's a chance for Gurode to stay if he restructures his deal and agrees to move to OG. I think it'll be too difficult to sign 2 OGs in FA, so I think it would be in the interest of both parties to work something out. I don't think Gurode can make more on the market at this stage of his career. Colombo could be a cut casualty, but I don't think we can just rehaul the entire OL in 1 offseason and his $1.9M is not a huge savings. James is done in by the new coaching staff looking for a fresh start. I think Lee has a chance to get a lot more playing time in the second half of the season which should prepare him to start next year.

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Do not resign:
Alan Ball RFA - $550K
Alex Barron - $2.73M
Jason Hatcher - $1.8M
Kyle Kosier - $3M
Marcus Spears - $1.2M
Gerald Sensabaugh - $1.8M
What they earned in 2010: $12M

Nothing there worth keeping.

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Restructure:
Terence Newman - $9M

This is something that simply needs to get done. He doesn't deserve that much.

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Resign:
Stephen Bowen
Sam Hurd
Doug Free
Bryan McCann

With the moves above we should have $30-35M to spend in FA. We'll need to resign some of our own guys. Outside of Free, they should be cheap contracts.

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FA:
OG Logan Mankins
S Eric Weddle
CB Richard Marshall
ILB David Harris

We should have an active FA. Mankins hates NE ownership. He's earned his UFA status by joining the team last week. If he hadn't he'd hit FA once again as a RFA, and NE would have a lot of power over him. Up to us to show him the money now. As for Weddle, we saw the Chargers wrestle with Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill. I don't see them ponying up for Weddle now. It doesn't look like Carolina plans to bring Marshall back. Their loss... hopefully, our gain. There seems to be a decent crop for FA CBs. We need to get one that will help. The Jets are going to be strapped for cash. They just gave huge contracts to Revis, Mangold and D'brick Ferguson. They also have other FAs in Shaun Ellis, Antonio Cromartie, Braylon Edwards, Brodney Pool. They probably won't franchise Harris. So I see him being available.

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Draft:
1. DB Patrick Peterson, LSU
2. OT Tyron Smith, USC
3. C Mike Brewster, Ohio State
4. DE Marvin Austin, UNC
5. NT Phil Taylor, Baylor
6. OG Will Rackley, Lehigh
7. K Kai Forbath, UCLA

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2011 Roster:
QB Romo / Kitna / McGee
RB Choice / Jones
FB Gronkowski
WR Austin / Bryant / Hurd
TE Witten / Phillips / Bennett
LT Free / Smith
LG Mankins / Holland
C Brewster / Gurode
RG Gurode / Rackley
RT Smith / Young

DE Bowen / Austin
NT Taylor / Brent
DE Ratliff / Olshansky
OLB Ware / Butler
ILB Harris / L.Williams
ILB Lee / Brooking
OLB Spencer / B.Williams
CB Marshall / Scandrick
CB Jenkins / McCann
CB Newman
FS Peterson / McCray
SS Weddle / Church

K Buehler
K Forbath
KR Peterson
PR Bryant
LS Lacodeur

LonghornsLegend
11-14-2010, 04:48 PM
That looks pretty awesome D. A few things. 1 I would be scared of cutting Bradie because we need a new starter then, and do we know if Sean Lee is good enough right now? Does Brooking have another high caliber season left? Because it could be argued Bradie could be better then him in 2011.


Also want NO PART of putting Peterson at FS, I'd rather try your idea and put Newman there. You don't take 1 of the best CB prospects ever, and not put him at CB first especially since it's a need. Newman in the slot, all of a sudden our corners are MUCH better. If Peterson lacks put him at FS, but give me the WR who can shut down his WR and take away that side of the field vs a FS who can cover alot of ground and make plays.


I'd take Revis over Polamalu for our defense easily, now if he moves there then sure.


Mankins is #1 on our list and it seems likely he'll hit FA unless they tag him or something to piss him off or force a trade partner I don't know. We'd pay up big for him too. I don't see the entire line being rehauled at once either but it looks spot on with who is gonna be gone. I want to hit FA hard on the line, I'd hate to draft a 2nd or 3rd round guy to rely on as a starter on the line and he doesn't pan out.

thule
11-14-2010, 06:13 PM
That looks pretty awesome D. A few things. 1 I would be scared of cutting Bradie because we need a new starter then, and do we know if Sean Lee is good enough right now? Does Brooking have another high caliber season left? Because it could be argued Bradie could be better then him in 2011.


Also want NO PART of putting Peterson at FS, I'd rather try your idea and put Newman there. You don't take 1 of the best CB prospects ever, and not put him at CB first especially since it's a need. Newman in the slot, all of a sudden our corners are MUCH better. If Peterson lacks put him at FS, but give me the WR who can shut down his WR and take away that side of the field vs a FS who can cover alot of ground and make plays.


I'd take Revis over Polamalu for our defense easily, now if he moves there then sure.


Mankins is #1 on our list and it seems likely he'll hit FA unless they tag him or something to piss him off or force a trade partner I don't know. We'd pay up big for him too. I don't see the entire line being rehauled at once either but it looks spot on with who is gonna be gone. I want to hit FA hard on the line, I'd hate to draft a 2nd or 3rd round guy to rely on as a starter on the line and he doesn't pan out.

The thing is....Peterson isn't an elite CB in college football. He doesn't lock down his side...when going up against NFL talent...such as Julio Jones recently he didn't shut him down. He actually has a history of not locking down his side of the field when put up against NFL talent WRs.

Thats the big misconception...he's elite because of his attributes...he's a once every 10 year prospect because of his measurables not because of his play on the field. He grades out as a good corner...probably still higher than Prince...that said tho...he also grades out as the top safety in this class for the same reasons. His best attribute is his ball skills imo...he treats every ball like it's being thrown to him.

He also excels at driving on the ball once he finds it...this is why you are see'ing some scouts talk about him being a possible safety prospect. He's known as a great tackler and really attacks on the field.

Honestly his only knock is craps he's had since middle school...but outside of that he could play anywhere. Nothing is said about him being a good safety...but to be honest, when gauging his strengths and weakness's neither one prohibits him from either position.

it's one thing to say he's an elite corner and he displays it on the field...but to be honest he hasn't been lockdown against NFL talent...and while he has the physical attributes to do that...he also has the physical attributes to be an elite safety. What position are we weaker at?

Don't say Newman can play safety...because while he is fundamentally sound in his tackling technique he isn't near physical enough to succeed at that...he's not a Rod Woodson...he is a silky smooth cover corner.

baghdadbob
11-14-2010, 07:48 PM
The thing is....Peterson isn't an elite CB in college football. He doesn't lock down his side...when going up against NFL talent...such as Julio Jones recently he didn't shut him down. He actually has a history of not locking down his side of the field when put up against NFL talent WRs.

Thats the big misconception...he's elite because of his attributes...he's a once every 10 year prospect because of his measurables not because of his play on the field. He grades out as a good corner...probably still higher than Prince...that said tho...he also grades out as the top safety in this class for the same reasons. His best attribute is his ball skills imo...he treats every ball like it's being thrown to him.

He also excels at driving on the ball once he finds it...this is why you are see'ing some scouts talk about him being a possible safety prospect. He's known as a great tackler and really attacks on the field.

Honestly his only knock is craps he's had since middle school...but outside of that he could play anywhere. Nothing is said about him being a good safety...but to be honest, when gauging his strengths and weakness's neither one prohibits him from either position.

it's one thing to say he's an elite corner and he displays it on the field...but to be honest he hasn't been lockdown against NFL talent...and while he has the physical attributes to do that...he also has the physical attributes to be an elite safety. What position are we weaker at?

Don't say Newman can play safety...because while he is fundamentally sound in his tackling technique he isn't near physical enough to succeed at that...he's not a Rod Woodson...he is a silky smooth cover corner.

Finally some sense. Rather pay Prince CB money and get a CB. Peterson is ATH and much like Landry.

thule
11-14-2010, 08:48 PM
Finally some sense. Rather pay Prince CB money and get a CB. Peterson is ATH and much like Landry.

A lot of people want to say that Prince is the better CB. Technical you can't argue it...because technique wise Prince is ahead of PP.

That said Prince also hasn't done well against top NFL competition either. He just got eaten up Alshon Jeffery 2 weeks ago.

I actually like Prince as a safety also. I think both guys could succeed at either...but there are no impact safeties in FA and no other ones in the draft...so why not try to convert one of these two DB's and let them play S.

xxxxxxxx
11-14-2010, 09:20 PM
They are both cornerbacks. Why try to fix something that isn't broken.

As for your plan D, that is pretty much spot on. One thing, is Garrett your HC?

LonghornsLegend
11-14-2010, 09:41 PM
Because for one I don't think you should take a safety that high, especially one who hasn't ever played there. Safeties rarely go as high as Peterson will be picking, and he'll probably go in a slot that would make him the highest Safety ever drafted. Your willing to take that risk and put him at a brand new position? At least Eric Berry had a highly decorated career at said Safety position.


For two, you can say he's not an elite CB now ok sure, but his measurables make him look like he can be an elite corner in the NFL and that's all that matters. You mean to tell me Darrelle Revis was locking WR's down at Pitt the same way he is now? Nope. I saw a ton of him and he showed a ton of flashes, but was still passed on and wasn't dominating the competition like your saying Peterson should have been.


What elite CB lately has locked his side of the field down completely?


All I'm saying is you draft a player like him, at his original position, if he only looks to be a solid player then you make the switch. CB is arguably a bigger need then FS now, look at who was in the game for us today.


Antrelle Rolle and Malcolm Jenkins weren't even better CB prospects then PP will be, but they still got the shot to play the position they were in College first before switching. There is a TON of value in the early 2nd round being that it'll be rare for a safety to catapult up into the 1st round, but we could almost have the 1st pick of our Safety with the 2nd rounder.


Can you say the CB's available are of that quality if we happen to look at that position there? I wouldn't be trying to draft a CB in the top 4 picks, and convert him to FS right away, if it doesn't work it'll be much harder to convert back to CB then vice versa.

baghdadbob
11-14-2010, 09:44 PM
A lot of people want to say that Prince is the better CB. Technical you can't argue it...because technique wise Prince is ahead of PP.

That said Prince also hasn't done well against top NFL competition either. He just got eaten up Alshon Jeffery 2 weeks ago.

I actually like Prince as a safety also. I think both guys could succeed at either...but there are no impact safeties in FA and no other ones in the draft...so why not try to convert one of these two DB's and let them play S.

I have no issue taking a CB and making him a S so long as he has ball skills and FOOTBALL BRAINS.

Prince seems the better football player and someone who can quickly make up ground in the intellectual part of the game. Peterson seems to need more time to improve technique and brains.

Good example of ATH who needs some work on the intellectual part of the game. My man #21.

But all things being considered, give me a CB with good fundamentals over an ATH so long as the athletics aren't crazy uneven.

Revis is a great example of technique over talent. Cromartie is a better ATH than Revis but who is a better CB?

baghdadbob
11-14-2010, 09:51 PM
Players to be put on the block:
Martellus Bennett
Igor Olshansky
Orlando Scandrick

Release Players (if you can't find trades):
Roy Williams - $5M
Marion Barber - $4.25M
Bradie James - $3.5M
Leonard Davis - $6M
Andre Gurode - $5.5M
Marc Colombo - $1.9M
Clears up: $20-25M

I hope Barber isn't let go, but I definitely think the possibility is there. Williams is a goner. As is Davis. I think there's a chance for Gurode to stay if he restructures his deal and agrees to move to OG. I think it'll be too difficult to sign 2 OGs in FA, so I think it would be in the interest of both parties to work something out. I don't think Gurode can make more on the market at this stage of his career. Colombo could be a cut casualty, but I don't think we can just rehaul the entire OL in 1 offseason and his $1.9M is not a huge savings. James is done in by the new coaching staff looking for a fresh start. I think Lee has a chance to get a lot more playing time in the second half of the season which should prepare him to start next year.

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Do not resign:
Alan Ball RFA - $550K
Alex Barron - $2.73M
Jason Hatcher - $1.8M
Kyle Kosier - $3M
Marcus Spears - $1.2M
Gerald Sensabaugh - $1.8M
What they earned in 2010: $12M

Nothing there worth keeping.

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Restructure:
Terence Newman - $9M

This is something that simply needs to get done. He doesn't deserve that much.

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Resign:
Stephen Bowen
Sam Hurd
Doug Free
Bryan McCann

With the moves above we should have $30-35M to spend in FA. We'll need to resign some of our own guys. Outside of Free, they should be cheap contracts.

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FA:
OG Logan Mankins
S Eric Weddle
CB Richard Marshall
ILB David Harris

We should have an active FA. Mankins hates NE ownership. He's earned his UFA status by joining the team last week. If he hadn't he'd hit FA once again as a RFA, and NE would have a lot of power over him. Up to us to show him the money now. As for Weddle, we saw the Chargers wrestle with Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill. I don't see them ponying up for Weddle now. It doesn't look like Carolina plans to bring Marshall back. Their loss... hopefully, our gain. There seems to be a decent crop for FA CBs. We need to get one that will help. The Jets are going to be strapped for cash. They just gave huge contracts to Revis, Mangold and D'brick Ferguson. They also have other FAs in Shaun Ellis, Antonio Cromartie, Braylon Edwards, Brodney Pool. They probably won't franchise Harris. So I see him being available.

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Draft:
1. DB Patrick Peterson, LSU
2. OT Tyron Smith, USC
3. C Mike Brewster, Ohio State
4. DE Marvin Austin, UNC
5. NT Phil Taylor, Baylor
6. OG Will Rackley, Lehigh
7. K Kai Forbath, UCLA

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2011 Roster:
QB Romo / Kitna / McGee
RB Choice / Jones
FB Gronkowski
WR Austin / Bryant / Hurd
TE Witten / Phillips / Bennett
LT Free / Smith
LG Mankins / Holland
C Brewster / Gurode
RG Gurode / Rackley
RT Smith / Young

DE Bowen / Austin
NT Taylor / Brent
DE Ratliff / Olshansky
OLB Ware / Butler
ILB Harris / L.Williams
ILB Lee / Brooking
OLB Spencer / B.Williams
CB Marshall / Scandrick
CB Jenkins / McCann
CB Newman
FS Peterson / McCray
SS Weddle / Church

K Buehler
K Forbath
KR Peterson
PR Bryant
LS Lacodeur

1) So you are going to cut 4 starting OL and sign 1 FA OL?
2) Harris from the Jets has back problems. Luv UoM but this might be a bad signing
3) Has Weddle played that well to give that kind of cash?

Anyway, time to have fun I guess at 2-7

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11-15-2010, 01:02 AM
Just because Peterson is 6'2'' 215 doesn't mean he has to be a safety and can't run. It's such a stupid stereotype and assumption. Like thule posted from an observation from a PRO SCOUT, he is the best corner to come out of the SEC since champ bailey. CORNERBACK.

He is the calvin johnson of corner's. Just cause he's huge doesn't mean he has to play safety. It's stupid.

Jenkins and Rolle couldn't buy Peterson's fluidity and lateral quickness with all the money in the world, let alone top end speed. The kid is a freak CB. stop the safety talk. Maybe when he's 34, he can pull a rod woodson, sure. But now, no.

EDIT: and honestly bob, just leave dude. We're trying to have quality discussions and all you do is spam about how everything is awful. Patrick Peterson could be the best CB of all time and we could win the next 5 super bowls and you'd still be saying some about how the cowboys aren't good. Just stop dude.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 03:00 AM
1) So you are going to cut 4 starting OL and sign 1 FA OL?
2) Harris from the Jets has back problems. Luv UoM but this might be a bad signing
3) Has Weddle played that well to give that kind of cash?

Anyway, time to have fun I guess at 2-7
1) Check again. That's not what I suggested. Gurode is still starting... Just at OG. If we can sign 2 FA OGs, then I'd say cut Gurode too if he doesn't agree to restructure. I have no problems cutting Davis and Colombo and then not giving an extension to Kosier. I can see a situation where Colombo is kept. He only makes $1.9M next season. But I would hope that he's on a short leash and that he could be replaced very early by a rookie who we drafted in early Round 2.

2) I didn't know Harris had back problems... Thanks.

3) Weddle is receiving what kind of cash? I didn't suggest anything. But I do think he's at least a decent player at SS. I thought about Bernard Pollard, but I don't see him leaving Houston. I wouldn't mind Champ Bailey and putting him at Safety, but I don't think the posters here have that kind of open mindedness. The thought definitely intrigues myself though.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 03:07 AM
Just because Peterson is 6'2'' 215 doesn't mean he has to be a safety and can't run. It's such a stupid stereotype and assumption. Like thule posted from an observation from a PRO SCOUT, he is the best corner to come out of the SEC since champ bailey. CORNERBACK.

He is the calvin johnson of corner's. Just cause he's huge doesn't mean he has to play safety. It's stupid.

Jenkins and Rolle couldn't buy Peterson's fluidity and lateral quickness with all the money in the world, let alone top end speed. The kid is a freak CB. stop the safety talk. Maybe when he's 34, he can pull a rod woodson, sure. But now, no.

EDIT: and honestly bob, just leave dude. We're trying to have quality discussions and all you do is spam about how everything is awful. Patrick Peterson could be the best CB of all time and we could win the next 5 super bowls and you'd still be saying some about how the cowboys aren't good. Just stop dude.
First off... I don't care what ONE pro scout said. Because I know for a fact that other pro scouts have mentioned that his best position might be at Safety.

IMO, I really question whether he has the fluid hips to play CB at the next level. I question his suddenness and ability to change direction. When you're a guy of that size you don't just turn your body on a dime. I know I haven't seen it in him. That's why many think Amakumara is the best pure corner in the draft.

I think there is a huge misbelief that CB is more important that Safety. That it's more difficult to fill than S. I honestly am not sold. PP could probably be a Pro Bowl CB... but if he can be an All Pro Safety, I'm playing him at S.

Feel free to continue to criticize my suggestion for him at S. I think I know how we'll be looking back on this debate in the future.

McBain
11-15-2010, 04:29 AM
Conspiracy theorist here: What if Garrett threw the first half of the season to get Wade fired? Suddenly the Cowboys start winning... huge payday from Jerruh. Stranger things have happened.

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11-15-2010, 09:16 AM
I don't think we're getting PP anyway. They lions are gonna finish with a worse record and snag him. I'm honestly hoping for a few more wins now, getting into the bottom of the top ten to take prince. We're not gonna have a shot at Peterson, to nice of a dream to be true, so might as well get some wins.

dsc1600
11-15-2010, 10:45 AM
If we play like we did yesterday, 6 wins is a possibility, so that puts us in a 6th-12th pick area. Another thing is, if Garrett gets the job, I doubt we're going to have a serious house cleaning.

xxxxxxxx
11-15-2010, 10:56 AM
They made a point on the radio today, that what if they o-line plays like this from here on out?

THAT WOULD SUCK. Colombo and Davis would probably be kept.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 12:23 PM
Guys... don't overreact from the Giants win. The Giants are an overrated team who isn't as good as everyone makes them out to be.

xxxxxxxx
11-15-2010, 12:47 PM
That doesn't discourage keeping the o-line if they play well down the stretch.. Which would suck.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 12:59 PM
That doesn't discourage keeping the o-line if they play well down the stretch.. Which would suck.
Our OL is both aging and expensive. 2 things that don't go too well with each other. THEN if you also add in that they have already shown signs of poor play (which they have), then you spell doom.

OL changes are most definitely happening. If they play well down the stretch, then maybe a couple of them (Colombo - because he is cheap and Gurode - because he can play C or G) may have worth for keeping around 1 more year until the new guys are ready from the draft.

But let me say this too....

Don't be surprised if Doug Free is ultimately moved back to the right. He's had some ugly moments at times this year at LT. Still willing to let him work it out though. It's not time to give up on him there just yet.

xxxxxxxx
11-15-2010, 01:08 PM
Either way, he must be re-signed.

thule
11-15-2010, 01:17 PM
I would love to see us win out and have a OT climb the ranks to boarderline top 10 pick....then that would make a ton of sense to draft a OT in that 6-12 range if one can rise that high.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 01:59 PM
I would love to see us win out and have a OT climb the ranks to boarderline top 10 pick....then that would make a ton of sense to draft a OT in that 6-12 range if one can rise that high.
I mentioned Tyron Smith in my mock. Top of Round 2. Have you had a chance to see him play yet?

The guy makes me drool. He could definitely reach mid-late first round status. I'd take him in an instant. Then a safety like Deauna Williams in Round 2 and I'd be a happy little girl on draft day.

romo4prez415
11-15-2010, 03:02 PM
I have no issue taking a CB and making him a S so long as he has ball skills and FOOTBALL BRAINS.

Prince seems the better football player and someone who can quickly make up ground in the intellectual part of the game. Peterson seems to need more time to improve technique and brains.

Good example of ATH who needs some work on the intellectual part of the game. My man #21.

But all things being considered, give me a CB with good fundamentals over an ATH so long as the athletics aren't crazy uneven.

Revis is a great example of technique over talent. Cromartie is a better ATH than Revis but who is a better CB?

Bingo! I know some are talking about Peterson at safety but I think its a bad fit. Athletically he can perform the role easily but mentally I think he'd struggle processing all the information and reacting instinctively because he doesnt do out at corner. If we're going to convert a corner to safety prince is our man. I actually think if we're a smart team Prince has to be higher on our board and unless we plan on playing alot of press man coverage which I'm worried about with how terrible our linebackers are in coverage. I think zone is the best bet for our team and Prince is the better off man and zone corner. I actually think Peterson will be off the board bu the time we select on draft day. I think we'll be somewhere within that pick 6-10 range. I think Nick Fairley, Adrian Clayborn, and Prince.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 03:39 PM
Bingo! I know some are talking about Peterson at safety but I think its a bad fit. Athletically he can perform the role easily but mentally I think he'd struggle processing all the information and reacting instinctively because he doesnt do out at corner. If we're going to convert a corner to safety prince is our man. I actually think if we're a smart team Prince has to be higher on our board and unless we plan on playing alot of press man coverage which I'm worried about with how terrible our linebackers are in coverage. I think zone is the best bet for our team and Prince is the better off man and zone corner. I actually think Peterson will be off the board bu the time we select on draft day. I think we'll be somewhere within that pick 6-10 range. I think Nick Fairley, Adrian Clayborn, and Prince.
If you watch Peterson play, he's actually great when he can see the ball in front of him. I don't get how you could even think for a second that he doesn't have good instincts. He plays so instinctively, that I think he would be a natural fit at Safety where he could be facing the ball more often and reading the QBs eyes.

But you really lost me when you said Prince would be a better safety. You said PP would struggle because he doesn't have the experience playing safety... right? But what about Prince?

Prince is purely a cornerback prospect. I think you're going in a direction that nobody is talking about when you talk about Prince as an NFL safety. Interesting though. Try suggesting that in the NFL prospect forum and seeing what people's thoughts are. I for one, don't have that kind of guts. lol.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 03:41 PM
I have no issue taking a CB and making him a S so long as he has ball skills and FOOTBALL BRAINS.

Prince seems the better football player and someone who can quickly make up ground in the intellectual part of the game. Peterson seems to need more time to improve technique and brains.

Good example of ATH who needs some work on the intellectual part of the game. My man #21.

But all things being considered, give me a CB with good fundamentals over an ATH so long as the athletics aren't crazy uneven.

Revis is a great example of technique over talent. Cromartie is a better ATH than Revis but who is a better CB?
I wouldn't make the assumption that Peterson lacks technique and brains.

xxxxxxxx
11-15-2010, 04:38 PM
Just because a corner is big doesn't mean he has to play safety cause he isn't fluid, it's starting to piss me off.

Prince and Peterson are both 6'1''+ and 205+, does that mean they have to be safeties? It's so stupid. It's a ******** stereotype.

But fact of the matter is, I doubt we have a shot at peterson, and prince might go before us too, anyway. This team is gonna beat the lions, (i think), and without stafford they aren't going to win another game. They probly take peterson.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 06:08 PM
Just because a corner is big doesn't mean he has to play safety cause he isn't fluid, it's starting to piss me off.

Prince and Peterson are both 6'1''+ and 205+, does that mean they have to be safeties? It's so stupid. It's a ******** stereotype.

But fact of the matter is, I doubt we have a shot at peterson, and prince might go before us too, anyway. This team is gonna beat the lions, (i think), and without stafford they aren't going to win another game. They probly take peterson.
If people start to think of Peterson as a Safety... that might actually make his stock drop. There's no guarantee that the Lions would take him anyways. I know they are looking for DEs as well and there are some very worthy choices.

xxxxxxxx
11-15-2010, 06:09 PM
Orlando Scandrick and brooking balled out yesterday. I saw on your next year roster you still have brooking? You like him D?

Scandrick has the talent, and has proved it with his rookie season and games like yesterday. Can't give up on him yet.

D-Unit
11-15-2010, 06:11 PM
Orlando Scandrick and brooking balled out yesterday. I saw on your next year roster you still have brooking? You like him D?

Scandrick has the talent, and has proved it with his rookie season and games like yesterday. Can't give up on him yet.
I thought I had David Harris there....

As for Brooking... I'm tired of him to be honest.

chrlopez1
11-29-2010, 02:53 PM
I think we need 3 top quality players who will come in and start. I don't think we can see who sure who will not be here, but we can speculate on some names. I think we have an explosive team next year and we can complete for a playoff spot. We are not in rebuilding mode...as long as u have a solid QB you have a shot. If this year tells us anything is that we are not ready, but with a couple of players we can be solid again. Here are some thoughts:

Spears is gone............But he will not be missed-----nothing spectacular
Barbar is gone...............Choice moves up and Miller becomes 3rd RB
OL..............We don't resign all, but we don't cut all.
R. Williams (wr) i think we cut..we can't afford his salary for his states...
Oggletree....I think he moves to the slot..or he become 3wr and austin moves to the slot on 3 rd down.
TE---- we still have phhillips
LB...........I don't think brookings will find 2 year contract, but maybe one year.....it might work.
A. Ball is out..i think we have better players..i think Church and the other guy can complete for the job as well as a rookie.

I think an OL in the first two round and than another one 4 or 5. That will rebuild our OL.

I think our DL is good..we need to resign, but with Brent and Lissamore we have backup depth.

I am out..

chrlopez1
11-29-2010, 09:50 PM
QB Tony Romo
QB Jon Kitna
QB Stephen Mcgee

HB Marion Barber ( Cut) Lonyae Miller
HB Felix Jones
HB Tashard Choice

FB Chris Gronkowski

WR Miles Austin
WR Roy Williams ( not sure 50-50)
WR Dez Bryant
WR Kevin Ogletree

TE Jason Witten
TE Martellus Bennett
TE Jason Phillips

OL Doug Free
OL Kyle Kosier
OL Andre Gurode
OL Leonard Davis
OL Marc Colombo
OL Alex Barron Cut
OL Montrae Holland
OL Phil Costa
OL Sam Young
OL Robert Brewster Cut

DE Marcus Spears not resigned
DE Igor Olshansky
DE Stephen Bowen
DE Jason Hatcher

NT Jay Ratliff
NT Sean Lissemore
NT Josh Brent

OLB Demarcus Ware
OLB Anthony Spencer
OLB Victor Butler
OLB Brandon Williams

ILB Bradie James
ILB Keith Brooking
ILB Sean Lee


CB Mike Jenkins
CB Terrence Newman
CB Orlando Scandrick
CB McCain SMU
S Gerald Sensabaugh 50-50
S Alan Ball f Cut
S AOA
S Danny Mccray
S Barry Church

K David Buehler
P Mat Mcbriar
LS J.P. Ladouceur

Primary Draft for 2011

CB
Safety
OL
DT DE

HEISMANHERSCHEL
11-29-2010, 11:16 PM
Your keeping AOA? The only thing I watched him do is run into the first guy down the field on kickoffs.

LSUALUM99
12-12-2010, 01:49 PM
Patrick Peterson will make an aggresive all around good/excellent safety. His game is simlar to Asante Samuel's. His play is centered on using his make up speed to aggressively go after the ball for a big play interception. He is not a Terrance Newman type. He does not try to blanket the receiver in order to keep the ball from being thrown at him.

Peterson's the most athletic guy we've had at LSU since I can remember. He's just freakishly athletic. He's also intelligent. That's a rarity for LSU players (I can assure you). I met him this year at an Alumni function and wasn't immediately struck with 'wow this guy is dumb' as I have been in the past with some players.

What will make Peterson successfull in the NFL is A) a defense that plays mostly zone to force the throws in front of him so that he can sit on routes and jump plays and B) a coach that can show Peterson that his physical ability to close on balls in the NFL will require him to 'bait' less that he does in college.

Peterson isn't champ bailey, but he will be asante samuel (only bigger).

thule
12-12-2010, 02:39 PM
Awesome to see you around LSU you should post more often.

That said I don't know if I really like the Asante comparison. I understand what you are saying from a technical standpoint but Samuel isn't only small he is soft. So from intangibles standpoint I see it but besides sitting on routes and a zone/off corner I don't see it. When I watch him play he absolutely reminds me of Troy Palumalu. Not so much from how he has played at LSU or anything...but just that when he has the freedom to roam and bait he makes plays and he is just on another level than most players. I think you let him run around and make plays. You put him at corner I just don't think he is going to shut his side of the field down. He is too much of a gamer for that. Actually think he has some similarities to Jenkins as far as playing corner...both tend to bait and jump short routes based off the DE/OLB in their respected schemes. The difference between those two once again is Peterson isn't soft and has a bigger build. I just can't think of any reason why Peterson wouldn't be an elite player at safety on our team. He has everything I'm looking for in a safety prospect except experience. But players like him just make plays...they are just born with that "it" factor.

LSUALUM99
12-12-2010, 04:29 PM
I see what you are saying. I would imagine he would play more like Ed Reed than Polumalu if he were to play safety. Not that either would be bad. My only concern is that he's never played safety before so why anticpate the move when you can project him as an upper level #1 CB in the league. He will not be a lock down corner, and if anyone wants that he's not your guy. He is a play making corner and probably the #1 return guy in this draft. I know his agent is going to want CB money and not Safety money in his career.

D-Unit
02-07-2011, 08:29 PM
Resign:
Doug Free - We should've extended him last season. Now bringing him back will cost a fortune. A big pity.
Stephen Bowen - Should be able to sign him for an acceptable deal.
Bryan McCann - Depth player with some upside.
Leon Williams - I'd like to hold onto him unless we clearly upgrade the position.
Sam Hurd - Bring tha brotha back.
Gerald Sensabaugh - As long as it's cheap.

Extend:
Tashard Choice - Do it now before he explodes and becomes an expensive contract.

Restructure:
Marion Barber
Terence Newman
Roy Williams

If they don't, then cut them.

Release:
Leonard Davis
Alan Ball
Marcus Spears
Kyle Kosier
Jason Hatcher
Alex Barron
Chris Greisen
Jesse Holley
Keith Brooking
Marc Colombo
Chris Gronkowski

FA:

LG Justin Blalock - UFA. Jerry has a knack for attracting native Texans back to Dallas. I would put this up as the #1 FA target for us. At 27 years old, we should lock him up to a nice long deal. This is a guy I loved in the draft and have always regretting not being able to get him. So I do have a bias here. ;)

ILB D'Qwell Jackson - UFA. Might fly under the radar after missing the entire season in 2010 with injury. But Rob Ryan could bring him here knowing that when healthy, Jackson makes a lot of plays and knows his defense.

FS Michael Huff - UFA. Didn't make the impact many expected out of him when he first came to the NFL, but each year he's gotten better and better and last season was his best yet. Time to bring the Longhorns alum back to Texas.

LT Jared Gaither - There are mixed opinions on Gaither because of his spinal injury and questionable work ethic, but imo that only increases our odds of getting him at the right price. At 6'9", 330 pounds he is a load to handle and the Ravens OL was considerably worse without him in 2010. If we do this right and give him time to get his body right, we could have a repeat of the Marc Colombo success story.

K Matt Bryant - Drilled 28-of-31 field goals in 2010. He was 9-of-11 from beyond 40. 36 years old, but hey, he's a kicker.


Personnel Changes:
Make Tashard Choice the starting RB.
Make Felix Jones the change of pace back and full time Kick Returner.
Move Andre Gurode to RG.
Move Jay Ratliff to DE at the very least, part-time.
Make Sean Lee a starter.
Let Victor Butler have a legit shot at overtaking Anthony Spencer.

Draft:
1. CB Prince Amukamara - Going with him because he's the most realistic get at this point. I expect Dareus, PP and Von Miller to be gone by #9.

2. C Stephen Wisneiwski - Prime spot to land our next coming of Mark Stepnoski.

3. DB Ras-I Dowling - Rob Ryan loves to call DB Blitzes. Dowling is a very physical DB who would be a weapon in this defense.

3/4. NT Kenrick Ellis - Need to trade up for him at this point. We have 2 5th rounders to help.

5. WR Greg Salas - Fights hard for every yard and will come up clutch.

5. Use for Ellis trade up. 4th and 5th for a late 3rd/early 4th.

6. FB Henry Hynoski - Hynoski is a throwback bruising FB with deceptive athleticism. Gronkowski missed blocks on Romo's collar bone injury and Dez's ankle injury.


QB Tony Romo - Jon Kitna - Stephen Mcgee

RB Tashard Choice - Felix Jones - Marion Barber
FB Henry Hynoski

WR Miles Austin - Dez Bryant - Roy Williams - Sam Hurd - Kevin Ogletree - Greg Salas

TE Jason Witten - Martellus Bennett - Jason Phillips

LT Jared Gaither
LG Justin Blalock
OC Stephen Wisneiwski
RG Andre Gurode
RT Doug Free

OG Montrae Holland
OG Robert Brewster
OT Sam Young

DE Igor Olshansky - Stephen Bowen - Sean Lissemore - Clifton Geathers
DE/NT Jay Ratliff
NT Kenrick Ellis - Josh Brent

OLB Demarcus Ware - Brandon Williams
OLB Victor Butler - Anthony Spencer

ILB Bradie James - D'Qwell Jackson
ILB Sean Lee - Leon Williams

CB Mike Jenkins - Bryan McCann
CB Prince Amukamara - Orlando Scandrick
NB Terrence Newman

FS Michael Huff - Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
SS Gerald Sensabaugh - Ras-I Dowling - Danny McCray

K Matt Bryant - David Buehler
P Mat McBriar
LS J.P. Ladouceur

LonghornsLegend
02-07-2011, 09:41 PM
Wow D that's pretty damn good, in fact I love it. Few things:


- Why do you say we should have re-signed Free the year before? I think we all wanted to know what he had at LT. I guess we could have moved him back if he failed, but I don't think the price is that much of a difference, and it would have been risky without seeing him on the left.


- Blalock is a great option. He started off great for ATL, then faded some, but he can play, is an upgrade at G, should come cheap and you hit it on the head with Jerry loving to bring back hometown guys. He's right out of Plano and loves Dallas, I think it makes alot of sense. You can't get really excited like he's a future stud at Guard or anything, but he's probably better then both of our starters and has alot of potential to get better still with a new scheme/team.



- I want the same guys to re-sign, but cutting Newman? Then we still only have 3 DB's and a big problem if one gets hurt since Ras would be a FS. Newman might be over paid but I'd let him make it if we cut Barber and Roy. We may need Newman still even though he gets burned way too much for me.



- Only way Gaither comes here is if he plays LT. That was his problem in Baltimore, since he has his own pick, and will definately get LT consideration, we won't be in play unless we opt to do so and move Free again. I don't know how I'd feel about that just yet, but I wouldn't hate any move that helps keep Romo upright.



- All your personnel changes need to happen for damn sure.



- Draft looks great, Prince is my most realistic option to but I think trading up or down is very likely. Love Ras as a FS prospect, but don't know if we want to wait until the 3rd to draft what we'd need to be a starter. It's risky.



- I also think we'd only look into a few of those FA options. I love me some D'Qwell but his injury needs to check out, and he would rarely play here right away which questions if we would get him over a team who might want to start him. Bradie probably has 2 more years, I think it's easy to groom a guy for that time behind him while letting Lee start now.

xxxxxxxx
02-07-2011, 09:59 PM
He didn't cut Newman..

MetSox17
02-07-2011, 11:09 PM
He'd cut him if he didn't restructure though

D-Unit
02-08-2011, 01:54 AM
If Newman doesn't restructure, then there's no way I pay him $9M next season. Rather chase a FA CB. Even Champ Bailey wouldn't command that on the open market and I'd take him over T-New. ...and there are a bunch of other FA CBs that pike my interest... Nnamdi? How much more would he cost? $11M? Bottom line is that $9M for Newman is too much.

If we brought him back at that cost, it would not be a good way to use our cap imo.

xxxxxxxx
02-08-2011, 07:17 AM
If Newman doesn't restructure, then there's no way I pay him $9M next season. Rather chase a FA CB. Even Champ Bailey wouldn't command that on the open market and I'd take him over T-New. ...and there are a bunch of other FA CBs that pike my interest... Nnamdi? How much more would he cost? $11M? Bottom line is that $9M for Newman is too much.

If we brought him back at that cost, it would not be a good way to use our cap imo.

You know that Newman isn't even one of the top 30 paid CB's right?

D-Unit
02-08-2011, 10:08 AM
You know that Newman isn't even one of the top 30 paid CB's right?
That wouldn't be my guess, but I would be interested to see your source. Let's see if you can back your words up...

TheFinisher
03-02-2011, 10:19 AM
Quickly put together after the combine.


Cuts/Released:

Barber
Davis
Spears
Sensabaugh
Hurd

Free Agency:

Tanard Jackson
Justin Blalock
Nnamdi Asomugha

Draft:
1. J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin- The 3-4 End Prototype

2. Gabe Carimi, RT, Wisonsin- Only showing ability to play RT caused him to fall out of round 1

3. Quinton Carter, SS, Oklahoma- Physical, smart player who is better suited to play around the box instead of FS like he played at OU.

4. Kris O'Dowd, C, USC- Groom to be the eventual successor at C.

5. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC- Hurd walking leaves us thin after our starting 3. RJ will be able to push RW for playing time.

6. Josh Bynes, ILB, Auburn- Intensity and will give us solid depth in the middle.

7. Alex Green, RB, Hawai'i- Tons of experience in a pass first offense, more polished as a pass blocker and catching the football than most rookies.

QB: Romo, Kitna
RB: Felix, Choice, Green
FB:Gronkowski

WR: Dez, Miles, Roy
TE: Witten

Depth: Bennett, R. Johnson, Phillips, Ogletree

LT: Free
LG: Kosier
C: Gurode
RG: Blalock
RT: Carimi

Depth:
O'Dowd, Holland, Young, Colombo

LE: Watt
RE: Bowen/Igor- TC Battle
NT: Ratliff

Depth: Hatcher, Brent, Lissemore

OLB: Ware
ILB: Lee
ILB: Bradie
OLB: Spencer

Depth: Butler, L. Williams, B. Williams, Bynes

CB: Nnamdi
CB: Jenkins
Nickel: Newman(Doing the restructure or cut 'em option w/ Newman)

FS: Jackson
SS: Carter

Depth: Scandrick, AOA, Ball, Church, McCann

leroyisgod
03-02-2011, 10:38 AM
Quickly put together after the combine.


Cuts/Released:

Barber
Davis
Spears
Sensabaugh
Hurd

Free Agency:

Tanard Jackson
Justin Blalock
Nnamdi Asomugha

Draft:
1. J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin- The 3-4 End Prototype

2. Gabe Carimi, RT, Wisonsin- Only showing ability to play RT caused him to fall out of round 1

3. Quinton Carter, SS, Oklahoma- Physical, smart player who is better suited to play around the box instead of FS like he played at OU.

4. Kris O'Dowd, C, USC- Groom to be the eventual successor at C.

5. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC- Hurd walking leaves us thin after our starting 3. RJ will be able to push RW for playing time.

6. Josh Bynes, ILB, Auburn- Intensity and will give us solid depth in the middle.

7. Alex Green, RB, Hawai'i- Tons of experience in a pass first offense, more polished as a pass blocker and catching the football than most rookies.

QB: Romo, Kitna
RB: Felix, Choice, Green
FB:Gronkowski

WR: Dez, Miles, Roy
TE: Witten

Depth: Bennett, R. Johnson, Phillips, Ogletree

LT: Free
LG: Kosier
C: Gurode
RG: Blalock
RT: Carimi

Depth:
O'Dowd, Holland, Young, Colombo

LE: Watt
RE: Bowen
NT: Ratliff

Depth: Hatcher, Brent, Lissemore

OLB: Ware
ILB: Lee
ILB: Bradie
OLB: Spencer

Depth: Butler, L. Williams, B. Williams, Bynes

CB: Nnamdi
CB: Jenkins
Nickel: Newman(Doing the restructure or cut 'em option w/ Newman)

FS: Jackson
SS: Carter

Depth: Scandrick, AOA, Ball, Church, McCann

Where is Igor?

TheFinisher
03-02-2011, 10:47 AM
Where is Igor?

Wow, I just left him out.

Fixing now..

D-Unit
05-02-2011, 06:31 PM
OK, I wanted to do this now that the draft is over.

Resign:
Doug Free - Top Priority.
Stephen Bowen - Ready to break out.
Bryan McCann - Flashed potential. Need to see how this unfolds.
Gerald Sensabaugh - We could do worse. Worth bringing him back affordably.
Keith Brooking - Jerry said he's coming back emphatically.
Sam Hurd - Special teams captain doesn't let lack of playing time hurt the team, even though you know he wants to play more.

Extend:
Tashard Choice - It's Choice's time to shine.

Release:
Terence Newman - Quiet leader in obvious decline simply makes too much.
Roy Williams - Too much drama for a guy who failed to become a star.
Marion Barber - :( I'm sad, but the time has come to depart ways.
Leonard Davis - Bigg stands for Bigg $10M contract off the books.
Kyle Kosier - If we can get Justin Blalock, he's gone.
Alan Ball - Trying to move him back to corner won't help either.
Marcus Spears - Good run stuffer could never produce pressure.
Jason Hatcher - Never realized potential.
Alex Barron - Get out.
Marc Colombo - Cut not for a weak mentality, but rather for a weak game.
Chris Gronkowski - Can be blamed for both Romo and Dez's injuries.
Leon Williams - Wade pickup is not a fit, and he didn't do anything last year.
Kevin Ogletree - Dwayne Harris in, Kevin Ogletree out.
Manny Johnson - Time to turn your gear in to the lockerroom manager.
David Buehler - The change in where the kickoff line is, makes Buehler useless.
Lonyae Miller - UDFA is not very kind to RBs.
Phil Costa - Never was part of the permanent picture.
Barry Church - Adding Huff, squeezes him out.
Sam Young - New incomer, Jeremy Parnell fits the athletic mold more than Sam... who is a pickup from the Wade Phillips era.

FA:

CB Nnamdi Asomugha - UFA. Obviously every team in the NFL would love him, but the $11M saved on Newman's contract can directly be applied here. We can afford to make him the highest paid corner in the league. Especially if we cut the likes of Roy, Davis, Colombo, Barber and Newman.

LG Justin Blalock - UFA. Jerry has a knack for attracting native Texans back to Dallas. At 27 years old, we should lock him up to a nice long deal. This is a guy I loved in the draft and have always regretting not being able to get him. Harvey Dahl is Atlanta's other FA Guard who was thier best OL. I expect ATL to resign him, but their budget might be too tough to resign both. Plus, they have to sign OT Tyson Clabo. I think the writing is on the wall since they drafted OG Andrew Jackson in the draft. Blalock is a LG though, so this leaves Kosier looking for a new home.

DE Shaun Ellis - UFA. With the Jets having drafted Muhammad Wilkerson and Kenrick Ellis, Shaun Ellis' days as a Jet are probably over. Ellis should find comfort going from Rex to Rob and would fill a hole for us up front where we could infuse some quality veteran talent. He's 34 years old, so his deal should not be expensive or long. Look for us to go DL early in the draft next year.

ILB Brandon Siler - I've always admired Siler from afar. He's a FA now and I think adding him would be a nice depth signing. Brooking and James are old, while Carter and Lee are injury risks. He shouldn't be expensive and shouldn't get in the way of the youngsters emerging their way to the top.

FS Michael Huff - UFA. Didn't make the impact many expected out of him when he first came to the NFL, but each year he's gotten better and better and last season was his best yet. Time to bring the Longhorns alum back to Texas.

K Matt Bryant - Drilled 28-of-31 field goals in 2010. He was 9-of-11 from beyond 40. 36 years old, but hey, he's a kicker. David Akers is also an option, but his 2 missed FGs in the playoffs cost the Eagles the game.

WR

Draft:
1. OT Tyron Smith
2. ILB Bruce Carter
3. RB Demarco Murray
4. OG David Arkin
5. CB Josh Thomas
6. WR Dwyane Harris
7. FB Shaun Chapas
7. C Bill Nagy

Supplemental Draft:
CB Jenoris Jenkins, 2nd Rounder - Nobody is giving up a 1st for him, but a 2nd round pick is a steal for us.

Personnel Changes:
- Make Tashard Choice the starting RB, but split carries between all of our backs based off the hot hand... Garrett has to have a good feel as a HC. Felix hasn't ever shown consistently that he is capable of starting the game hot. Whereas, he has shown that he can come in off the bench and make an immediate impact. Keep doing that.. then bring in Murray as the 3rd down back. I also expect to see some formations with 2 RBs in at the same time.

- Felix Jones and Demarco Murray should split KO return duties to reduce chance of injury.

- Make Sean Lee a starter by midseason. This cannot be understated. Brooking is going to continue to show signs of slowing down. We cannot let him play just because he's a veteran leader.

- Let Victor Butler have a legit shot at overtaking Anthony Spencer.

Depth Chart:

OFFENSE

QB Tony Romo - Jon Kitna - Stephen Mcgee

RB Tashard Choice - Felix Jones - DeMarco Murray
FB Shaun Chapas

WR Miles Austin - Dez Bryant - Jesse Holley - Teddy Williams
Slot Dwayne Harris - Sam Hurd

TE Jason Witten - Jason Phillips - Martellus Bennett

LT Doug Free - Jermey Parnell
LG Justin Blalock - Robert Brewster
OC Andre Gurode - Bill Nagy
RG Montrae Holland - David Arkin
RT Tyron Smith - Jermey Parnell


DEFENSE

DE Shaun Ellis - Sean Lissemore
NT Jay Ratliff - Josh Brent
DE Igor Olshansky - Stephen Bowen

OLB Demarcus Ware - Brandon Williams
OLB Anthony Spencer - Victor Butler

ILB Bradie James - Brandon Siler - Bruce Carter
ILB Keith Brooking - Sean Lee

CB Mike Jenkins - Bryan McCann
CB Nnamdi Asomugha - Orlando Scandrick
NB Jenoris Jenkins - Josh Thomas

FS Michael Huff - Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
SS Gerald Sensabaugh - Danny McCray

K Matt Bryant
P Mat McBriar
LS J.P. Ladouceur


2012 DRAFT Needs!!!

DE - Shaun Ellis would just be a temporary FA filler
C - Gurode is aging, not sure about Nagy yet
S - Sensabaugh can be upgraded
OLB - If Spencer doesn't step up
NT - On the needs list, but let's see how Brent continues to develop