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J-Mike88
11-10-2010, 08:42 PM
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This program, the 30 for 30 series by ESPN, is the best television sports documentary series of all-time.

It deserves it's own thread here, as it's all about sports, but always more than sports.

Three times that I can recall this season, I have been moved to tears watching it.

Who caught the last night episode on Marcus Dupree?
Is there anyone here who was around when he was making his legend?

Anyone watch the one about the Bosnia/Croatia/Serbia stuff?

The Two Escobar's was the most riveting one for me. I wish I had saved that on my DVR.

Anyone know how or if there's a way I can take it from my DVR and somehow upload it to youtube or somewhere to share with everyone?

CashmoneyDrew
11-10-2010, 08:48 PM
The Two Escobars and The Best that Never Was are the only two I've caught in entirety, but they've both been excellent.

niel89
11-10-2010, 08:53 PM
They are all so amazing. Even when its a subject I wasn't interested in, I still thought it was really good.

dabears10
11-10-2010, 08:56 PM
I remember when I made this thread when the 30 for 30 started an only I posted in it, sigh.

Volume 1 of the 30 for 30 comes out on DVD on December 17th. It has the first 15 shown.

http://www.amazon.com/ESPN-Films-Gift-Set-Collection/dp/B003YMR98M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1289444078&sr=8-1

HeavyLeggedWaistBender
11-10-2010, 09:02 PM
Run Ricky Run was great, most are pretty good. I haven't seen a ton of them.

yourfavestoner
11-10-2010, 09:34 PM
Every single one I've watched has been great. Run Ricky Run was by far my favorite (for obvious reasons). One of my favorite players of all time (and by far one of the most misunderstood) actually had his side of the story aired out.

Without Bias, The U, Straight Outta LA, June 17th, 1994, Jordan Rides the Bus, One Night in Vegas, Once Brothers (my second favorite)....so many good episodes.

Don Vito
11-10-2010, 09:51 PM
Most of them are great but my favorites that I've seen are The U and Run Ricky Run. The Len Bias one was pretty good too. I still need to see the Marcus Dupree and Escobar brother ones.

Draft King
11-10-2010, 09:54 PM
The U was ******* awesome.

SickwithIt1010
11-11-2010, 12:29 AM
The U was by far my favorite one out of them all. It was so sick haha.

Mr. Goosemahn
11-11-2010, 02:25 AM
These are probably the best shows ever done regarding sports. So far, I've watched The Two Escobars, Run Ricky Run, Without Bias, and I think I'm missing another one.

The one I can relate to the most is The Two Escobars, basically because that's what's going on back where I'm from. Very powerful drug lords who have control over anything they wish to control. There has never been any major intervention or influence in sports (publicly, at least), but everything associated with Escobar, such as buying off everyone he wanted to, is the same. I guess the shooting in Mexico City of Salvador Cabanas is definitely a sports intervention, but I'm not from there. Fortunately, Cabanas didn't die. Don't really know how he survived a close range shot, even if it wasn't a particularly strong gun, but I'm glad he did. He was a great player.

Never really knew why he was shot, doubt we ever will, but there are conflicting reports about it. He suffered short term memory loss and hasn't played at all since the incident happened back in January. It's still unknown if he will ever return to play.

Bosanac01
11-11-2010, 02:29 AM
The Fact that you mentioned Bosnia in your first post makes this Thread Epic.

J-Mike88
11-11-2010, 06:17 AM
I never saw the Lenny Bias one!
Was that this season?
I know there are 4 or 5 still on my DVR that I have yet to get to sadly (but I will), but I don't recall seeing that title in my list.

The U one was awesome. Tons of racial tensions back there in the city.... wait, now it's like that everywhere in America isn't it? Sad.
Sadder is that their football team hasn't really been great in a long time. I miss the days when they were great and had all those **** NFL RB's right there.

Shane P. Hallam
11-11-2010, 06:43 AM
Dupree is being rebroadcasted tonight. My TiVo didn't record it on Tuesday, so I have it on lockdown tonight!

AntoinCD
11-11-2010, 06:44 AM
Ive only seen a few of them. I liked the one about the Knicks and the Pacers but the OJ Simpson one where they showed live footage from the day with the World Cup Opening Ceremony, NBA Finals that year was very good

ElectricEye
11-11-2010, 09:44 AM
Dupree is being rebroadcasted tonight. My TiVo didn't record it on Tuesday, so I have it on lockdown tonight!

I've got it set for tonight too. Missed it in all the video game related hub bub.

J-Mike88
11-11-2010, 09:44 AM
Ive only seen a few of them. I liked the one about the Knicks and the Pacers but the OJ Simpson one where they showed live footage from the day with the World Cup Opening Ceremony, NBA Finals that year was very good
Yeah I watched those 2.
Reggie Miller was an ASSASSIN on the Knicks, and Spike Lee! Great theater that was.

And watching those OJ things.... hard to believe OJ didn't serve a day for those crimes, but yet he's now in jail for much lesser things.
Strange justice.

ElectricEye
11-11-2010, 09:47 AM
Once Brothers was really good. I didn't get the chance to see Drazen Petrovic
play, but it was a real well done story.

T-RICH49
11-11-2010, 10:55 AM
Once Brothers was my fav w/o a doubt

SeanTaylorRIP
11-11-2010, 02:41 PM
Yup the Drazen and Vlade episode is one of the better things I've seen on T.V. in a long time. I'm not even into the extreme sports stuff but I watched the entire episode when they had on some BMX rider can't remember the name but he was one of the pioneers, but it was extremely entertaining. The raw footage and interviews they acquired were excellent.

RaiderNation
11-11-2010, 02:54 PM
Havent seen every single one, but all the ones I have watched have been worth my time.

TimD
11-11-2010, 05:41 PM
Da U, Run Ricky Run, The Two Escobars, Terry Fox: Into the Wind, and Tim Richmond: To the Limit are so so so good. Ive seen a couple other ones, but these are my top 5.... no order

Bosanac01
11-11-2010, 06:42 PM
They need to so more about my people. :D

You guys have no idea.

J-Mike88
11-11-2010, 11:01 PM
They need to so more about my people. :D

You guys have no idea.You're right, Americans know or care very little about people in other countries, typically.
Not all, but too many.

Goran Ivanisievic, Wimbledon Champion.... Croatia I think.

I have to watch the 2 Brothers one tomorrow. Still on my DVR.

Complex
11-12-2010, 12:02 AM
DA U was the best one followed by the two escobars & once brothers(drazen & Vlade).

I wanted to see the Tyson/tupac 30 for 30 but missed it.

I didn't like straight out of L.A., I thought Ice Cube did a poor job

J-Mike88
11-12-2010, 02:17 PM
DA U was the best one followed by the two escobars & once brothers(drazen & Vlade).

I wanted to see the Tyson/tupac 30 for 30 but missed it.

I didn't like straight out of L.A., I thought Ice Cube did a poor job
The 2 Esobar's was so great because Pablo controlled the whole country, and his kingpin work made him the most powerful man in the world for many years, and it all was so entwined with the Columbian soccer team, and then with the World Cup, which just happened to be in the USA that year.

AND they just happened to draw playing in our pool, and lose to us. Poor Andres.

That was the best individual program I have ever seen really. Chilling.

Now Mexico is running wild, lawless with all the drugs and killing people every day all day long.

MaxV
11-12-2010, 04:07 PM
I haven't seen all of them.

As a homer, the one about Pacers vs. Knicks I loved.

I also saw Terry Fox story, Ricky, Da U, Tyson/Tupac and Drazen/Vlade. All were very good.

I really want to see the ones about Escobars and Len Bias.

I also haven't seen Hank Gathers/Bo Kimble and Dupree stories from the beginning.

diabsoule
11-13-2010, 04:12 PM
I watched the Marcus Dupree documentary a few nights ago and it was incredible. I highly recommend it.

Complex
11-15-2010, 05:37 PM
They should do they Willie Williams story

niel89
11-15-2010, 06:16 PM
Not gonna lie, I got choked up when Marcus Dupree talked about running for his little brother.

McGahee
11-15-2010, 06:16 PM
The Marion Jones one was god awful. They try to make her into the victim, and say that she only lied to Federal investigators because they were asking her questions too fast and she didn't stop to think about the consequences, so she just lied about using PEDs to federal Agents. Please. She would continue to claim she did use PEDs for more years after that.

Then she talks about how she was the victim again for being put in prison, those are what we call consequences, Marion. I don't really feel bad for her in that she cashed in on everything she did while on PEDs, and now she wants people to feel sorry for her. At one point they played the race card incinuating that the only reason she got a prison term was that she was black. And now she's leading the charge for awareness against making bad decisions. It's almost as if she feels that she made a bad decision in lying to Federal investigators, rather than using PEDs in the first place.

On top of the weak narration, boring storyline, and weak attempt at glorifying a disgraced athlete, this was by far the worst 30 for 30 that I have seen so far.

bigbluedefense
11-15-2010, 06:29 PM
I haven't seen many of them, but the ones I saw I liked a lot.

The 2 Escobars was one of the best films I've ever seen. That moved me. Great great film.

TACKLE
11-22-2010, 03:33 AM
Haven't seen them all but my top 5 would look something like this

1. Two Escobars
2. The U
3. Run Ricky Run
4. The Best That Never Was
5. Reggie Miller vs. the Knicks

HM - June 17th, 1994

McGahee
11-26-2010, 08:55 PM
Rewind Wednesday (Marcus Dupree Part II) Dupree gives thoughts on ESPN documentary

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckPersona&U=22c0f74c7bd248eb99cb1bcb4cd00bb7&plckController=PersonaBlog&plckScript=personaScript&plckElementId=personaDest&plckPersonaPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog:22c0f74c7bd248eb99cb1bcb4cd00bb7Po st:710f80d6-d511-44d7-b1e8-093e900e3c9a&sid=sitelife.clarionledger.com

Interview with Marcus Dupree about the 30 for 30 documentary about himself. Scroll down a little bit.

Give this a read, if for no other reason than to read Dupree's comments about Fairley.

J-Mike88
11-29-2010, 02:05 PM
Dupree is a class act.

JRTPlaya21
11-29-2010, 03:31 PM
Thanks for that link.

MetSox17
12-11-2010, 02:57 PM
Anyone else watching the ESPN 30 for 30 that's on ABC right now?

ElectricEye
12-11-2010, 02:59 PM
Anyone else watching the ESPN 30 for 30 that's on ABC right now?

Pretty sure it's The Best That Never Was again. Really good one there.

Pretty excited about Pony Excess. The SMU story has always been something I'm interested about hearing something more than a summary about.

MetSox17
12-11-2010, 03:11 PM
Yeah, it's The Best That Never Was. I had never heard of Marcus Dupree before.

niel89
12-11-2010, 05:23 PM
I'm getting the first 15 dvd set for my mom for christmas. $50 is worth it.

ElectricEye
12-11-2010, 05:59 PM
I'm getting the first 15 dvd set for my mom for christmas. $50 is worth it.

That's actually a really good deal.

diabsoule
12-11-2010, 06:33 PM
I can't wait to watch The Pony Express tonight. The SMU death penalty is something I have been really interested in learning more about.

Bosanac01
12-11-2010, 06:40 PM
Man just watching some Marcus Dupree highlights, he was so ******* good.

ElectricEye
12-11-2010, 06:43 PM
Man just watching some Marcus Dupree highlights, he was so ******* good.

6'2 230 4.4 40. Pretty crazy stuff. You almost have to throw out the NFL numbers just because of all the stuff that happened to him and got his career off track. The Oklahoma highlights were absolutely nuts. Luckily his talent reincarnated as Adrian Peterson to make it's money and get it's due.

bored of education
12-11-2010, 08:10 PM
Pony Exce$$ is gonna be awesome

TACKLE
12-11-2010, 10:00 PM
Pony Exce$$ is gonna be awesome

It did not disappoint.

Bosanac01
12-11-2010, 10:01 PM
How often do these come on?

SickwithIt1010
12-11-2010, 10:06 PM
It did not disappoint.

very good. liked it alot

ElectricEye
12-11-2010, 10:09 PM
Yeah, interesting story, very well made as usual. Really goes to show just how wild things were back in those days in regards to recruiting.

dabears10
12-11-2010, 10:11 PM
How often do these come on?

This is the 30th film they have shown. The next one will probably be after the new year Catching hell about Bartman. I'm waiting for all 30 to come out in a box set. They were all pretty great. There is a podcast with a wrap up by the creators of the concept.

Giantsfan1080
12-11-2010, 10:11 PM
I only go to watch the first hour but it was very good. Hopefully they replay again later tonight so I can catch the whole thing.

ElectricEye
12-11-2010, 10:11 PM
Once Brothers stills sets the standard for these with The Best That Never was coming in second.

Giantsfan1080
12-11-2010, 10:12 PM
This is the 30th film they have shown. The next one will probably be after the new year Catching hell about Bartman. I'm waiting for all 30 to come out in a box set. They were all pretty great. There is a podcast with a wrap up by the creators of the concept.

They just released the first half of them on DVD I believe.

iBoldin
12-11-2010, 10:13 PM
I'm assuming the first 15 episodes are included in the box set? I haven't seen all of them, nor have I seen a list of what ones are on the box. Does anyone have a list of the episodes that are actually on the DVD itself? Reps for it. Also asked for it for Christmas. It's a must buy for any sports fan. 45 bucks at Amazon.com, what a fantastic deal.

This was such a great idea, I hope they do more and more. It's so in depth and the commentary/episode ideas are fantastic. Pony Excess has easily been my favorite one so far. What happened to SMU was horrible but the direction of the episode was great. Helps you learn things you would've never learned any other way. The Dupree/OJ Simpsons ones were great as well.

Giantsfan1080
12-11-2010, 10:17 PM
Includes the first 15 films from the series: Kings Ransom, The Band That Wouldn't Die, Small Potatoes: Who Killed The USFL?, Muhammad & Larry, Without Bias, The Legend of Jimmy The Greek, The U, Winning Time: Reggie Miller vs. The New York Knicks, Guru of Go, No Crossover: The Trial of Allen Iverson, Silly Little Game, Run Ricky Run, The 16th Man, Straight Outta L.A., and June 17th, 1994

6270410908
12-12-2010, 01:37 AM
They nail it on every football-related show. USFL, The U, Raiders, Marcus Dupree and now this SMU feature were all great. Didn't care for the Ricky Williams show. Just basically watching a guy self-destruct in front of a camera. Love Once Brothers and Against the Wind. Tear-jerker stuff.

6270410908
12-12-2010, 01:41 AM
BTW, pick up a DVD recorder at Big Lots for $30 and an $8 spindle of DVD-R discs and record these off the television. This idea also comes in handy for PPV movies and UFC.

dabears10
12-12-2010, 09:05 AM
They just released the first half of them on DVD I believe.

They are but I want them all with one purchase because I'm greedy.

asdf1223
10-02-2012, 05:10 PM
Sorry to bump a 2 year old thread but the second part starts today at 8. Broke by the same guy who did the U documentary. Should be interesting.

Don Vito
10-02-2012, 05:27 PM
Ghosts of Ole Miss in a week or two. Should be awesome but will probably just make our school look like ****.

WCH
10-02-2012, 05:30 PM
Sorry to bump a 2 year old thread but the second part starts today at 8. Broke by the same guy who did the U documentary. Should be interesting.

I've actually been looking forward to this for the past few months, ever since I heard about it.

asdf1223
10-02-2012, 08:36 PM
Did anyone catch this one? Liked it but slightly disappointed that they didn't go into more depth with it.

TACKLE
10-04-2012, 01:51 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/trending/post/_/id/8637/30-for-30-short-film-arnolds-blueprint

VAfy-ya
10-04-2012, 05:27 PM
I watch these on Netflix all the time. My personal favorites:

Once Brothers(Story of Valde Divac, Drazen Petrovic, Tonic Kukoc and the Serbian War)
No Bias(Len Bias)
No Crossover(Allen Iverson)
Pony Excess(SMU)
Jordan Rides The Bus
The Best That Never Was(Marcus Dupree)
The Marinovich Project(Todd Marinovich)

MetSox17
10-04-2012, 05:32 PM
Does anyone know if these new ones are added to Netflix? Or viewable online? Probably not, but just wondering.

Prowler
10-04-2012, 05:32 PM
I loved the Reggie Miller and the Magic Johnson ones.

asdf1223
10-04-2012, 05:49 PM
Does anyone know if these new ones are added to Netflix? Or viewable online? Probably not, but just wondering.

No sadly. Supposed to release on Itunes next week. Should be there on torrents. Broke is airing on Espn classic on saturday.

SickwithIt1010
10-04-2012, 06:34 PM
Broke was alright, seemed like it could have been some of those guys just looking for sympathy but sent a message I suppose to some of the young up and comers.

Some of my faves:

Pony Excess
The U
Without Bias
Unguarded
The best that never was

SickwithIt1010
10-04-2012, 06:35 PM
Did anyone catch this one? Liked it but slightly disappointed that they didn't go into more depth with it.

Ya got champagne taste on a beer budget.

Todd Bertuzzi
10-04-2012, 06:47 PM
The best one is clearly Run Ricky Run.

VAfy-ya
10-04-2012, 06:49 PM
Broke was alright, seemed like it could have been some of those guys just looking for sympathy but sent a message I suppose to some of the young up and comers.

Some of my faves:

Pony Excess
The U
Without Bias
Unguarded
The best that never was

I just finished watching Unguarded. Wow.....still believe Once Brothers and No Bias are the two best but that one could defintely be in the discussion. And I forgot how nice Chris Herren was. Dude could ball.

VAfy-ya
10-22-2012, 12:36 AM
Really interested in seeing the new one on Ben Wilson. Guys from the Chi tell me Benji was the real deal and would have been a absolute star.

redbills
10-23-2012, 08:16 PM
So whose story do you believe???

G-Mac
10-23-2012, 08:36 PM
I highly doubt Benji attacked somebody whom he knew had a gun. Therefore, I do not believe Moore's story. Not realistic.

brat316
10-23-2012, 08:49 PM
I believe some of Moore's story. Girls get guys all excited.

If only we had Ben's girl interview and tell it, but I guess she would be in trouble for perjury if she says something else.

jballa838
10-23-2012, 10:56 PM
I believe some of Moore's story. Girls get guys all excited.

If only we had Ben's girl interview and tell it, but I guess she would be in trouble for perjury if she says something else.

Statute of limitations would have ran out by now, right?

VAfy-ya
10-24-2012, 01:35 AM
All I know is its now one of my fav 30f30.

Docta
10-24-2012, 04:06 PM
http://www.3030fm.com/2012/10/24/video-espn-30-for-30-benji/

For those who haven't watched Benji yet.

SickwithIt1010
10-24-2012, 06:30 PM
Benji was alright I suppose, story I didnt know about so it was interesting and things like that along with Bias bring up the "how good would they have been".

I thought 9.79 was awesome...I ******* hate Carl Lewis, the guy is a ******* prick and I found myself being on Ben Johnson's side throughout the whole thing. For Carl Lewis to look down on anyone is comical.

TACKLE
11-17-2012, 02:17 AM
I thought 9.79 was awesome...I ******* hate Carl Lewis, the guy is a ******* prick and I found myself being on Ben Johnson's side throughout the whole thing. For Carl Lewis to look down on anyone is comical.

I just finished watching this and it was very good. I found myself being drawn towards Ben Johnson just because of how honest and upfront he was about everything where you never felt you could trust the other guys. Couldn't ******* stand Carl Lewis (that clip where he had the braces made me laugh). Wondered if it had anything to do with that fact that I'm Canadian and biased one way but apparently not.

SuperMcGee
11-17-2012, 01:24 PM
Heard that they're going to be doing one about Clint Malarchuk. Can't wait.

WCH
03-14-2013, 11:03 PM
I know I'm late to the party, but I just watched The U. It was awesome, and I think it might have converted me to a 'Canes fan.

BallerT1215
03-15-2013, 10:38 PM
I know I'm late to the party, but I just watched The U. It was awesome, and I think it might have converted me to a 'Canes fan.

Watch 30 for 30 "Broke". Might change your mind back lol.



Of the recent ones from this past year, Benji and Bo Jax were probably my favorite 2.

Mr. Goosemahn
03-20-2013, 11:33 PM
A 30 for 30 short on the beginning of Arnold Schwarzenegger's career:

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BallerT1215
04-09-2013, 07:41 PM
Oh Yes!

New 30-30 coming April 23rd "Elway to Marino" on the best QB draft of all time.

J-Mike88
06-14-2013, 10:08 PM
I've seen em all from The U to Benji to the Vlade Divac Toni Kucoc, Elway to Marino, Marcus Dupree the Best that never was, Nelson Mandela, etc. All good to great.

But THIS one was epic, chilling, by far the best ever.

ENjoy it here, while it's still up.
WTF did we (USA) have to get lucky and "win" that damn game :o(

UdOgxLA3lDc

Don Vito
09-25-2013, 04:10 PM
I know it wasn't really a 30 for 30 and I am a homer, but The Book of Manning was amazing.

bigbluedefense
09-26-2013, 10:22 AM
I loved it, but I hated that they didn't go over their NFL careers.

Don Vito
09-26-2013, 10:31 AM
Yeah that would have been better. As a Pats fan it would have been rough, but I am a fan of both of them so it would have been cool to see. I'm also surprised they left out Peyton's struggles against Florida. I am not surprised they left out Eli's draft day ordeal, because that literally was the antithesis of the entire movie. They kept harping on how Archie stayed out of their football careers. They could've bended it into how he was looking out for what was best for his son, but we all know what happened there.

bigbluedefense
09-26-2013, 10:46 AM
Yeah it's pretty obvious the family didn't want them both in the same conference. It's why Peyton suitors in the NFC had no chance at all and were wasting their time 2 years ago.

J-Mike88
09-26-2013, 04:45 PM
Poor Cooper.