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TACKLE
01-17-2011, 02:44 PM
Here's a wide open thread to discuss this years Cornerback class. Post any thoughts or opinions on the CB's: your rankings, who's underrated, who's overrated, break out prospects, sleepers, best fits, etc. This is the place to break down the 2011 CB class.

PittPete
01-17-2011, 03:07 PM
Hope the ravens get some more corners like Webb.

RaiderNation
01-17-2011, 03:12 PM
Jimmy Smith will end up the 2nd best CB of this group

princefielder28
01-17-2011, 04:02 PM
just did my updated rankings, here's how i have the top 15

1. Patrick Peterson :: Louisiana State*
2. Prince Amukamara :: Nebraska
3. Jimmy Smith :: Colorado
4. Brandon Harris :: Miami(FL)*
5. Aaron Williams :: Texas*
6. Brandon Burton :: Utah*
7. Johnny Patrick :: Louisville
8. Davon House :: New Mexico State
9. Curtis Brown :: Texas
10. Korey Lindsey :: Southern Illinois
11. Ras-I Dowling :: Virginia
12. Brandon Hogan :: West Virginia
13. Rashad Carmichael :: Virginia Tech
14. Justin Rogers :: Richmond
15. Jalil Brown :: Colorado

SchizophrenicBatman
01-17-2011, 04:09 PM
Jimmy Smith will end up the 2nd best CB of this group

i'm going with first

one of peterson/amukamara will end up at safety and Smith will be better than the other

thegreatone
01-17-2011, 04:13 PM
i'm going with first

one of peterson/amukamara will end up at safety and Smith will be better than the other
I could see how you bring up Peterson as safety(which I still disagree with), but Prince is strictly a CB.

SchizophrenicBatman
01-17-2011, 04:18 PM
prince can play FS. i'm not saying he will, but all it takes is the team that takes him to have some weird personnel injuries/developments happen to make the switch

TACKLE
01-17-2011, 04:19 PM
This is in response to an article on the Cowboys thread that said many NFL scouts view him as a safety prospect.

I'm not necessarily sold on him as a pure safety, but I would love to see him in a Charles Woodson role. I know a lot of coordinators aren't as creative as Capers, but that role might take best advantage of his ability. Line him up in the slot or on the outside, have him shadowing the other teams #1, have him line up deep as a safety, have him line up in the box as the eight defender and let him utlize his talents as a CB/S/Rover.

JustDezIT
01-17-2011, 04:19 PM
To the dude that said Prince has a possibility of moving to safety LOL huge fail.

Prince >>>>>>> everyone else. Peterson is not a good CB prospect and he'll be a safety in the pros.

Prince will be a shutdown CB in the mold of Asomugha one day.

SchizophrenicBatman
01-17-2011, 04:31 PM
i dont know why you guys think position flexibility is a bad thing

bowers could play 4-3 dt on some downs in the mold of a justin tuck. is that a knock on him as a DE? no. he could also play 5-tech in the 3-4. i wouldnt do it but im guessing some teams would

RaiderNation
01-18-2011, 11:44 PM
Im thinking Prince is more of a CB, while PP can be a Charles Woodson type player playing zone and blitzing from everywhere. Dallas and Rob Ryan would be his ideal last spot IMO

AntoinCD
01-19-2011, 02:43 AM
I think in recent weeks Aaron Williams has been really underrated and if some team gets him in the second round they will be getting a steal. Not too far behind PP and Prince for my money.

NotRickJames
01-19-2011, 03:00 AM
Justin Rogers has reportedly been dominant in the East-West shrine game practices.

Razor
01-19-2011, 04:30 AM
Justin Rogers has reportedly been dominant in the East-West shrine game practices.

I was just about to ask about him. I never heard of him before Wes Bunting wrote about him, but apparantly he looks like a great fit in NE. Where should he be drafted? Does anybody know anything about him?

Day One Pick
01-19-2011, 04:45 AM
I have these corners getting drafted as of now.

1. Patrick Peterson, 6-1, 222, Louisiana State*

2. Prince Amukamara, 6-1, 205, Nebraska

3. Brandon Harris, 5-11, 195, Miami*

4. Jimmy Smith, 6-2, 205, Colorado

5. Aaron Williams, 6-1, 195, Texas*

6. Davon House, 6-0, 184, New Mexico State

7. Brandon Burton, 6-0, 185, Utah*

8. Ras-I Dowling, 6-2, 200, Virginia

9. Brandon Hogan, 5-10, 190, West Virginia

10. Curtis Brown, 6-0, 185, Texas

11. Chimdi Chekwa, 5-11, 190, Ohio State

12. Shareece Wright, 5-11, 185, Southern California

13. Charles Brown, 5-9, 195, North Carolina

14. Brandyn Thompson, 5-10, 180, Boise State

15. Marcus Gilchrist, 5-11, 190, Clemson

16. Johnny Patrick, 5-11, 190, Louisville

17. Chykie Brown, 6-0, 190, Texas

18. Darrin Walls, 6-0, 190, Notre Dame

19. Devon Torrence, 6-0, 194, Ohio State

20. Trevin Wade, 5-11, 182, Arizona

21. Kevin Rutland, 6-0, 190, Missouri

22. Cortez Allen, 6-2, 190, Citadel

23. DeMarcus Van Dyke, 6-0, 180, Miami

AntoinCD
01-19-2011, 05:06 AM
I have these corners getting drafted as of now.

1. Patrick Peterson, 6-1, 222, Louisiana State*

2. Prince Amukamara, 6-1, 205, Nebraska

3. Brandon Harris, 5-11, 195, Miami*

4. Jimmy Smith, 6-2, 205, Colorado

5. Aaron Williams, 6-1, 195, Texas*

6. Davon House, 6-0, 184, New Mexico State

7. Brandon Burton, 6-0, 185, Utah*

8. Ras-I Dowling, 6-2, 200, Virginia

9. Brandon Hogan, 5-10, 190, West Virginia

10. Curtis Brown, 6-0, 185, Texas

11. Chimdi Chekwa, 5-11, 190, Ohio State

12. Shareece Wright, 5-11, 185, Southern California

13. Charles Brown, 5-9, 195, North Carolina

14. Brandyn Thompson, 5-10, 180, Boise State

15. Marcus Gilchrist, 5-11, 190, Clemson

16. Johnny Patrick, 5-11, 190, Louisville

17. Chykie Brown, 6-0, 190, Texas

18. Darrin Walls, 6-0, 190, Notre Dame

19. Devon Torrence, 6-0, 194, Ohio State

20. Trevin Wade, 5-11, 182, Arizona

21. Kevin Rutland, 6-0, 190, Missouri

22. Cortez Allen, 6-2, 190, Citadel

23. DeMarcus Van Dyke, 6-0, 180, Miami

Few disagreements with those rankings. Firstly I have Aaron Williams as my third CB above Harris and Smith. I also think Curtis Brown is a better prospect than Ras-I dowling and Brandon Hogan.

Also no Rashad Carmichael in your top 23 CBs? I think he could even sneak into the end of the second round

FUNBUNCHER
01-19-2011, 08:26 AM
There are some BIG corners in this draft!!!
I'm surprised how many are 5'11 or taller...is this a good CB class?? Better than average??? Mediocre?? Poor??

Sorry to say that 80% of these guys I know nothing about!

gdur52
01-19-2011, 08:36 AM
I was just about to ask about him. I never heard of him before Wes Bunting wrote about him, but apparantly he looks like a great fit in NE. Where should he be drafted? Does anybody know anything about him?

I went to Richmond, including the first couple years he was there, and have watched as many of their games as possible since, so I know quite a bit about him.

Rogers was a player since he first stepped on the field as a RS-Freshman, where he was a dominant special teams player and a rotational DB. As sophomore he was an interception machine, which lead to teams avoiding him most of his junior and senior years.

Richmond had quite a bit of coaching turnover during his time their, but he was always a consistent playmaker on special teams and defense, and even offense some in his senior year.

Rogers has played mostly zone and off-man coverage, and wouldn't be a good fit for teams who play a lot of press coverage. He is a good athlete, but does not have elite straight line speed. He is a very fluid athlete though, with good quickness and burst. He doesn't have great size, but is a pretty decent tackler who generally gets low and wraps up the ball carrier's legs. In college he was a playmaker, and always found ways to get his hands on the ball.

As a Richmond alum I am biased, but I really like Rogers. He is just one of those players that is always in position to make a play. He also offers some versatility and special teams potential.

Overall, I think Rogers could surprise as a pro, especially in a zone/off-man scheme. I'd be comfortable taking him in the early 5th round, maybe late 4th. I do think his 40 time could hurt him though, but his agility and explosion drills should be very good.

thegreatone
01-19-2011, 09:23 AM
You guys think Aaron Williams might fall to the 2nd?

Matthew Jones
01-19-2011, 09:40 AM
There are some BIG corners in this draft!!!
I'm surprised how many are 5'11 or taller...is this a good CB class?? Better than average??? Mediocre?? Poor??

Sorry to say that 80% of these guys I know nothing about!

Some nice prospects in the first round but outside of that it's not one of the best in my opinion. There could be a lot of Brandon Browner type guys here if you ask me, those really tall cornerbacks are almost always awkward.

AntoinCD
01-19-2011, 09:42 AM
You guys think Aaron Williams might fall to the 2nd?

The way things look at the moment it's probable but for me he is still a top 25 player in the draft

wordofi
01-19-2011, 10:17 AM
I think Brandon Burton is a sleeper. He didn't play in a major conference (MWC), but the guy can play.

RealityCheck
01-19-2011, 11:22 AM
Burton is a great prospect. He could end up being the third corner taken after PP and Prince.

AntoinCD
01-19-2011, 11:25 AM
There are some BIG corners in this draft!!!
I'm surprised how many are 5'11 or taller...is this a good CB class?? Better than average??? Mediocre?? Poor??

Sorry to say that 80% of these guys I know nothing about!

Yeah I was just looking there. 21 of those 23 CBs are listed as 5'11 and over.

Over/Under how many measure in above 5'11

I say no more than 7