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Scott Wright
01-19-2011, 08:40 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that I updated the rankings and incorporated underclassmen for the very first time this year. Needless to say there were quite a few significant changes.

Keep in mind this is still a rough draft and I will need some time to process my thoughts on how the underclassmen fit in, etc. I'll have another major update once I get back from the Senior Bowl in early-February. Shane and I also discussed some of the notable points in the January 18 podcast, which can be heard at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/draftcountdown or on iTunes.

So without further adieu:


Quarterbacks
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/QB.php

Running Backs
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/RB.php

Fullbacks
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/FB.php

Wide Receivers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/WR.php

Tight Ends
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TE.php

Offensive Tackles
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OT.php

Offensive Guards
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OG.php

Centers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/C.php

Defensive Ends
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/DE.php

Defensive Tackles
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/DT.php

Outside Linebackers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OLB.php

Inside Linebackers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/ILB.php

Cornerbacks
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/CB.php

Safeties
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/S.php

Kickers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/K.php

Punters
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/P.php

Return Specialists
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/RS.php

Long-Snappers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/LS.php

Sleepers
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/SLEEPERS.php

Overrated / Underrated
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/OVERUNDER.php

Top 100 Overall
http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TOP.php

Ho0k Em'
01-19-2011, 09:00 AM
Do you not consider Jake Kirkpatrick a draftable prospect?

McGahee
01-19-2011, 09:03 AM
Hey Scott, is the film that good on Robert Quinn for him to be ahead of Bowers?

Also Dareus over Fairley.

Wow.

Did character concerns on Fairley's part have anything to do with that?

Scott Wright
01-19-2011, 09:23 AM
Before I get too many questions about "Where is Player X", I actualy have a lengthly list of players to add but time won't allow it before I leave for Mobile. Look for another 30+ prospects to be added once I get back from the Senior Bowl, probably in the first week of February.

Scott Wright
01-19-2011, 09:24 AM
Hey Scott, is the film that good on Robert Quinn for him to be ahead of Bowers?

Also Dareus over Fairley.

Wow.

Did character concerns on Fairley's part have anything to do with that?

Absolutely. Shane and I actually talked about that a bit on last night's podcast.

AntoinCD
01-19-2011, 09:30 AM
Quick question about AJ Green and Julio Jones. I know you have Green as your #1 overall prospect and Julio as #8 but how wide is the gap between the two? I personally think it's minimal and it is a matter of preference between them and what type of player a team is looking for.

jnew76
01-19-2011, 10:45 AM
Scott,

You have Cam Newton listed as 6'3". It that just a typo? He looks like he is at least 6'5"+ in every game I have watched and is listed at 6'6". I just wanna make sure you don't have some inside info.

JoeJoeBrown
01-19-2011, 10:54 AM
Good stuff, Scott.

One comment on Ross Homan. You have him as the #10 OLB. I loved watching him as a Buckeye, but he is slower than molasses on a cold day. I really don't see him as a successful OLB in the NFL. Maybe Shane could comment, but I don't see it. He often seemed a step behind.

Iamcanadian
01-19-2011, 11:43 AM
Much nicer ranking but I still think the Combine will shake up the order especially if some under weight guy show up heavier. The juniors will also shake out during the Combine quite a bit.

Shane P. Hallam
01-19-2011, 11:45 AM
Good stuff, Scott.

One comment on Ross Homan. You have him as the #10 OLB. I loved watching him as a Buckeye, but he is slower than molasses on a cold day. I really don't see him as a successful OLB in the NFL. Maybe Shane could comment, but I don't see it. He often seemed a step behind.

Homan had a bad year, struggled with injuries. He had better quickness last year and was highly thought of going into the season. Workouts will be key as well as the Senior Bowl.

Iamcanadian
01-19-2011, 11:46 AM
Quick question about AJ Green and Julio Jones. I know you have Green as your #1 overall prospect and Julio as #8 but how wide is the gap between the two? I personally think it's minimal and it is a matter of preference between them and what type of player a team is looking for.

There is a huge difference pre combine for the two. Green is head and shoulders above Jones at this point. However the combine can still shake up these rankings if they partake.

coordinator0
01-19-2011, 12:18 PM
I'm surprised to see Watt listed ahead of Jordan. Is he that good or is Jordan starting to get a tad over-hyped around here?

Iamcanadian
01-19-2011, 12:25 PM
I'm surprised to see Watt listed ahead of Jordan. Is he that good or is Jordan starting to get a tad over-hyped around here?

Really too early to tell. The Combine with settle out their positioning.

killxswitch
01-19-2011, 12:36 PM
There are 9 DEs ranked as 1st rounders. Damn.

JHL6719
01-19-2011, 12:46 PM
Personally, I've always had Dareus over Fairley... I absolutely agree with it.

JHL6719
01-19-2011, 12:58 PM
I'd have T.J. Yates over Jerrod Johnson though without question.

I also think you'll end up adding Ryan Pugh to your center rankings. I think he's an underrated prospect.

49erNation85
01-19-2011, 01:21 PM
wow at the QB rankings is all I can say .Gabbert is number one really ? I just don't see it .But your the pro here lol . Glad to see Jake Locker at number 2 tho . Everything else looks in good shape.I'm also glad to see a rankings of all the players in play for the draft other then seniors . . Nice work Scott.

killxswitch
01-19-2011, 01:25 PM
This is the first time I realized that Dontay Moch runs a sub 4.3 40. Holy ****. Makes me want to draft him, make him shed 20 lbs, and play SS. I know it doesn't work like that but damn what an incredible athlete.

keylime_5
01-19-2011, 01:27 PM
Personally, I've always had Dareus over Fairley... I absolutely agree with it.

off-field/character issues aside I don't think there's any way anyone can think Dareus is a better football player than Fairley. If you factor in character issues and whatnot it might make sense, but otherwise it's not even that close IMO.

Shane P. Hallam
01-19-2011, 01:38 PM
off-field/character issues aside I don't think there's any way anyone can think Dareus is a better football player than Fairley. If you factor in character issues and whatnot it might make sense, but otherwise it's not even that close IMO.

I think you should listen to the podcast, haha.

Arsenal
01-19-2011, 01:47 PM
Nice work as always but I really think you should seriously consider adding separate 3-4 rankings. Half the teams in the NFL run it. I know as a 49ers fan, the team really needs an outside linebacker but it's nearly impossible to find out how you rank 3-4 linebackers and ends.

Keep up the good work.

JoeJoeBrown
01-19-2011, 02:40 PM
Homan had a bad year, struggled with injuries. He had better quickness last year and was highly thought of going into the season. Workouts will be key as well as the Senior Bowl.

Yeah, the injuries definitely hurt him, and I'll admit that he did look a bunch better in the Sugar Bowl. Still highly skeptical that he has the wheels. Would love for him to prove me wrong. He's a solid player that seems to love the game.

JHL6719
01-19-2011, 02:41 PM
off-field/character issues aside I don't think there's any way anyone can think Dareus is a better football player than Fairley. If you factor in character issues and whatnot it might make sense, but otherwise it's not even that close IMO.



I disagree with you on both accounts. I think it is close, but I think Dareus is a better football player.

I think character issues should always be part of the evaluation process, and factor into to the final grade you have on a prospect no matter what.

However, even without the character issues, and basing it purely off the football field, I still have Dareus edging out Fairley.

First of all, Dareus is a more proven commodity. He's not a one year wonder. He's been dominant for 2 years straight, and the performance he put on against Texas in the national championship game where he won MVP, was one of the best defensive performances I've seen in the title game since Dwayne Goodrich shut down Peter Warrick one-on-one. Dareus was an absolute terror.

Dareus was also the MVP of the Capital One Bowl against Michigan St. in my opinion... he was his same, dominant self. Unblockable.

Fairley can single handedly take over a game just like Dareus can, but Fairley also disappears in games. You won't see that out of Dareus, if you pay attention, Dareus is a factor in some form on ever single snap he's on the field.

Also, I think Dareus is more versatile. He can play head up, or he can play a shade technique. Dareus can be disruptive and destroy one-on-one blocking if you ask him to, be disruptive by defeating double teams if you ask him to, or he can be unselfish and remain disciplined while playing 2-gaps.

I don't think Fairley is that disciplined, or that unselfish. But I do think Fairley defeats double teams with ease, it's the plays off that he takes you have to worry about.

Bottom line is, I think Dareus is a better prospect, and is going to make a better pro... thus, he's the #1 DT on my board, Fairley is #2.

thebow305
01-19-2011, 03:23 PM
Wow I am SHOCKED you have Quinn over both Fairley and Bowers. Both will almost undoubtedly go before him, didnt miss a year, and looked truly dominant at times this year. Ive very rarely seen Quinn absolutely dominate a game like Fairley did against Oregon.

Iamcanadian
01-19-2011, 03:25 PM
off-field/character issues aside I don't think there's any way anyone can think Dareus is a better football player than Fairley. If you factor in character issues and whatnot it might make sense, but otherwise it's not even that close IMO.

I agree, Fairley is the better player IMO from what I observed, and if he's a one year wonder I hope he ends up on 1 of my teams while some teams pass. I love his meanness and he's pretty close to Suh in ability. Now I don't pretend to know his character issues right now but on football ability alone, he's the better prospect.

bullg8rdaddy
01-19-2011, 03:41 PM
Love it! Thanks for the hard work, fellas!

/scared that Aldon Smith will not be close to being there for my Bucs @ 20.

PhinPhan
01-19-2011, 03:52 PM
The front page has been very active so far this year. Keep up the good work!

How would Justin Blackmon fit into the WR rankings had he come out?

TACKLE
01-19-2011, 03:55 PM
The front page has been very active so far this year. Keep up the good work!

How would Justin Blackmon fit into the WR rankings had he come out?

Not trying to speak on Scott's behalf but I would assume he would of been #3.

PhinPhan
01-19-2011, 04:00 PM
Not trying to speak on Scott's behalf but I would assume he would of been #3.

I'm a huge fan of the draft but not an expert. With that being said, Blackmon impressed me this year more than Green and Jones did. How far off the bulls eye am I with that statement?

Scott Wright
01-19-2011, 06:23 PM
Not trying to speak on Scott's behalf but I would assume he would of been #3.

You got it!

Working on getting those typos on Watt and Newton fixed as well...

edgrenade
01-19-2011, 06:31 PM
Gabbert is the most overrated QB since Russell...

metafour
01-19-2011, 06:56 PM
Fairley has 'character concerns' now?

/facepalm.

metafour
01-19-2011, 07:06 PM
but Fairley also disappears in games. You won't see that out of Dareus

"Fairley takes plays off" has to be one of the dumbest misconceptions of all time.

Dareus definitely doesn't disappear in games. Oh, wait...he had a 3 game string this year in which he didn't record a single tackle for loss.

24 tackles for loss vs. 11.
48 total tackles vs. 26.5.
21 QB hurries vs. 10.

If Fairley takes plays off I'd be afraid to see what type of stats he'd put up if he didn't take plays off. If anything; that should make his ability even more frightening...for him to put up such ridiculous stats against the best competition in the country while "taking plays off".

killxswitch
01-19-2011, 08:14 PM
Fairley has 'character concerns' now?

/facepalm.

Some people have a problem with his dirty plays. I think the attitude is a positive and he will mature and avoid some of the cheap shots that could hurt his team in the NFL.

JHL6719
01-19-2011, 08:32 PM
"Fairley takes plays off" has to be one of the dumbest misconceptions of all time.

Dareus definitely doesn't disappear in games. Oh, wait...he had a 3 game string this year in which he didn't record a single tackle for loss.

24 tackles for loss vs. 11.
48 total tackles vs. 26.5.
21 QB hurries vs. 10.

If Fairley takes plays off I'd be afraid to see what type of stats he'd put up if he didn't take plays off. If anything; that should make his ability even more frightening...for him to put up such ridiculous stats against the best competition in the country while "taking plays off".


The stat totals are a little misleading since Dareus played in 3 less games this year than did Fairley.

Which three game string would you be referring to that Dareus disappeared? He "disappeared" for the first 2 games of the season because he was suspended for attending that agent bash party down in south Florida.

Followed by playing the majority of the season through a severe ankle injury.

Dareus plays a lot of 2-gap responsibility in Saban's 3-4 defense, which cuts down his opportunities to "hurry" quarterbacks. When Saban and Kirby Smart go into their nickel package, it allows Dareus the freedom to be aggressive.

Fairley doesn't have to worry about being an unselfish player and soaking up double team blocks in Ted Roof's defense. Have you ever watched either of these kids play?

I mean the beauty of all this is, we're going to find out.

49erNation85
01-19-2011, 09:03 PM
Gabbert is the most overrated QB since Russell...

I couldn't agree more dude.I just don't see how is the clear cut number one guy between Locker , Newton or even Stanzi who all have better seasons then him and winning there bowl games.Personally I would still think after next week Locker will be number one again .

JPP90
01-19-2011, 09:31 PM
I couldn't agree more dude.I just don't see how is the clear cut number one guy between Locker , Newton or even Stanzi who all have better seasons then him and winning there bowl games.Personally I would still think after next week Locker will be number one again .

Its the "in" thing to hop onto the Gabbert bandwagon now.

Syracuse punter Rob Long has brain cancer...is he really a rankable a prospect still?

JoeJoeBrown
01-19-2011, 09:58 PM
I'm a huge fan of the draft but not an expert. With that being said, Blackmon impressed me this year more than Green and Jones did. How far off the bulls eye am I with that statement?

Not far off IMO. The kid is money. But I'm not an expert either. There are a few experts here and a lot more people than that that think they are :)

Abaddon
01-20-2011, 01:54 AM
Its the "in" thing to hop onto the Gabbert bandwagon now.

Syracuse punter Rob Long has brain cancer...is he really a rankable a prospect still?

Since when does a punter need a brain?

JPP90
01-20-2011, 05:14 PM
Since when does a punter need a brain?

The kids dying of brain cancer. Can the standup routine and have a little tiny shred of class.

ncst8fan83
01-20-2011, 05:55 PM
Since when does a punter need a brain?

I'm sure Tom Coughlin could answer that question.