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Day One Pick
01-21-2011, 03:50 PM
Top 100

1. Andrew Luck, QB, 6-4, 235, Stanford *

2. Trent Richardson, RB, 5-11, 220, Alabama *

3. Alshon Jeffery, WR, 6-4, 232, South Carolina *

4. Luke Kuechly, ILB, 6-3, 235, Boston College *

5. Kelechi Osemele, OT, 6-5, 327, Iowa State

6. Matt Kalil, OT, 6-6, 295, Southern California *

7. Brandon Jenkins, DE/OLB, 6-3, 245, Florida State *

8. Justin Blackmon, WR, 6-1, 207, Oklahoma State *

9. Jared Crick, DT/DE, 6-6, 290, Nebraska

10. Stephon Gilmore, CB, 6-1, 190, South Carolina *

11. Terrelle Pryor, QB/ATH, 6-6, 240, Ohio State

12. Devin Taylor, DE/OLB, 6-6, 250, South Carolina *

13. Janzen Jackson, FS, 6-0, 190, Tennessee *

14. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, 6-2, 190, Alabama *

15. Janoris Jenkins, CB, 5-11, 190, Florida

16. Peter Konz, C/OG, 6-5, 315, Wisconsin *

17. LaMichael James, RB, 5-9, 184, Oregon *

18. David DeCastro, OG/OT, 6-5, 313, Stanford *

19. Nick Foles, QB, 6-5, 235, Arizona

20. Vontaze Burfict, ILB/OLB, 6-3, 245, Arizona State *

21. Jonathan Martin, OT, 6-6, 301, Stanford *

22. Kirk Cousins, QB, 6-3, 202, Michigan State *

23. Mohamed Sanu, WR, 6-2, 218, Rutgers *

24. Chris Polk, RB, 5-11, 215, Washington *

25. Manti Te'o ILB/OLB, 6-2, 245, Notre Dame *

26. Ray Ray Armstrong, SS, 6-4, 220, Miami *

27. Michael Floyd, WR, 6-3, 220, Notre Dame

28. Greg Reid, CB, 5-8, 175, Florida State *

29. Nico Johnson, OLB/ILB, 6-3, 238, Alabama *

30. Xavier Rhodes, CB/S, 6-1, 208, Florida State #

31. Andre Branch, DE/OLB, 6-5, 260, Clemson

32. Mike Brewster, C/OG, 6-5, 298, Ohio State

33. Dwayne Allen, TE, 6-4, 255, Clemson *

34. Quinton Coples, DE, 6-6, 272, North Carolina

35. Cyrus Gray, RB, 5-10, 198, Texas A&M

36. Matt Barkley, QB, 6-2, 220, Southern California *

37. Mike Martin, DT, 6-2, 299, Michigan

38. DeAndre McDaniel, SS, 6-1, 210, Clemson

39. Kerry Murphy, DT/NT 6-4, 320, Alabama *

40. Andre Ellington, RB, 5-10, 190, Clemson *

41. Travis Lewis, OLB, 6-2, 230, Oklahoma

42. Brandon Lindsey, DE/OLB, 6-2, 250, Pitt

43. Jerel Worthy, DT/DE, 6-3, 298, Michigan State *

44. Matt Reynolds, OT, 6-6, 320, Brigham Young

45. Mark Barron, SS, 6-2, 210, Alabama

46. Donte Paige-Moss, DE/OLB, 6-4, 245, North Carolina *

47. Robert Lester, FS, 6-2, 206, Alabama *

48. Don'ta Hightower, ILB, 6-4, 258, Alabama *

49. Ryan Broyles, WR, 5-11, 178, Oklahoma

50. Chase Minnifield, CB, 6-0, 185, Virginia

51. Riley Reiff, OT, 6-6, 300, Iowa *

52. Alfonzo Dennard, CB, 5-10, 195, Nebraska

53. Courtney Upshaw, ILB/OLB, 6-2, 263, Alabama

54. Kenny Tate, FS, 6-4, 220, Maryland

55. Denard Robinson, ATH, 5-11, 192, Michigan * (QB)

56. DeVonte Holloman, SS, 6-2, 228, South Carolina *

57. Jayron Hosley, CB, 5-10, 175, Virginia Tech *

58. Alameda Ta'amu, DT/NT, 6-3, 330, Washington

59. DeVier Posey, WR, 6-3, 205, Ohio State

60. Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, 6-5, 242, Marshall

61. Jaye Howard, DT/DE, 6-3, 305, Florida

62. Mike Adams, OT, 6-8, 325, Ohio State

63. Knile Davis, RB, 6-0, 220, Arkansas *

64. Orson Charles, TE, 6-3, 240, Georgia *

65. Chris Rainey, ATH, 5-9, 178, Florida (WR/RB)

66. Jeff Fuller, WR, 6-4, 215, Texas A&M

67. Nigel Bradham, OLB, 6-3, 235, Florida State

68. Keith Tandy, CB, 5-10, 200, West Virginia

69. Delano Howell, SS, 5-11, 198, Stanford

70. Michael Egnew, TE, 6-6, 235, Missouri

71. Kawann Short, DT/DE, 6-3, 305, Purdue *

72. Will Ebner, ILB, 6-1, 230, Missouri

73. Nick Toon, WR, 6-3, 212, Wisconsin

74. Zach Brown, OLB, 6-2, 225, North Carolina

75. Omar Bolden, CB, 5-10, 195, Arizona State

76. Landry Jones, QB, 6-4, 220, Oklahoma *

77. Barrett Jones, OG, 6-5, 280, Alabama *

78. Brandon Taylor, SS, 6-0, 191, Louisiana State

79. T.J. Moe, WR, 6-0, 200, Missouri *

80. James Wilson, OG/OT, 6-5, 315, Florida

81. Greg Childs, WR, 6-3, 217, Arkansas

82. Ryan Van Bergen, DE, 6-6, 280, Michigan

83. D.J. Fluker, OT, 6-6, 340, Alabama #

84. Tydreke Powell, DT/NT, 6-3, 310, North Carolina

85. Jelani Jenkins, OLB, 6-1, 225, Florida #

86. Brandon Boykin, CB, 5-10, 185, Georgia *

87. Bernard Pierce, RB, 6-0, 218, Temple *

88. Marcus Forston, DT/DE, 6-3, 305, Miami *

89. Vince Browne, DE/OLB, 6-5, 265, Northwestern

90. Anthony Miller, TE, 6-3, 262, California *

91. Ben Jones, C, 6-3, 300, Georgia

92. Tysyn Hartman, SS, 6-3, 206, Kansas State

93. Brandon Washington, OG, 6-4, 330, Miami *

94. Marquis Maze, WR, 5-10, 182, Alabama

95. Ben Habern, C, 6-3, 292, Oklahoma *

96. Nate Potter, OT/OG, 6-6, 300, Boise State

97. Josh Oglesby, OT, 6-7, 331, Wisconsin

98. Bruce Irvin, DE/OLB, 6-2, 235, West Virginia

99. Cliff Harris, CB, 5-11, 180, Oregon *

100. Tyler Love, OT, 6-6, 305, Alabama *


Best of Rest By Position

Robert Griffin III, QB/ATH, 6-2, 220, Baylor

Brandon Weeden, QB, 6-4, 224, Oklahoma State

Case Keenum, QB, 6-2, 210, Houston

Dan Persa, QB/ATH, 6-1, 205, Northwestern

Kellen Moore, QB, 6-0, 187, Boise State


Taylor Martinez, ATH, 6-1, 205, Nebraska # (QB)

Chandler Harnish, ATH/QB, 6-2, 220, Northern Illinois (QB)

Nathan Scheelhaase, ATH/QB, 6-2, 195, Illinois # (QB)

B.J. Daniels, ATH, 6-1, 212, South Florida * (QB)

Tim Jefferson, ATH, 6-1, 200, Air Force (QB)


Kenjon Barner, RB, 5-10, 180, Oregon *

Montee Ball, RB, 5-11, 236, Wisconsin *

Ray Graham, RB, 5-9, 195, Pitt *

David Wilson, RB, 5-10, 200, Virginia Tech *

Doug Martin, RB, 5-9, 201, Boise State


Zach Boren, FB, 6-0, 250, Ohio State *

Joe Suhey, FB, 6-1, 228, Penn State

Cody Johnson, FB, 5-11, 250, Texas

Joe Halahuni, FB, 6-2, 255, Oregon State

Broderick Green, FB, 6-2, 248, Arkansas


Chris Owusu, WR, 6-2, 201, Stanford

T.Y. Hilton, WR, 5-10, 183, Florida International

Marvin McNutt, WR, 6-4, 215, Iowa

Dyrell Roberts, WR, 6-1, 190, Virginia Tech

Bryce McNeal, WR, 6-1, 180, Clemson #


David Paulson, TE, 6-4, 242, Oregon

Tyler Eifert, TE, 6-6, 242, Notre Dame #

George Bryan, TE, 6-5, 270, North Carolina State

Jake Stoneburner, TE, 6-5, 245, Ohio State *

Mike Cruz, TE, 6-5, 255, Pitt *


Elvis Fisher, OT, 6-5, 300, Missouri

Bobby Massie, OT, 6-6, 312, Mississippi *

Blake DeChristopher, OT, 6-5, 315, Virginia Tech

Andrew Datko, OT, 6-6, 303, Florida State

Xavier Nixon, OT, 6-5, 300, Florida *


Stephen Good, OG, 6-6, 300, Oklahoma

Joel Foreman, OG, 6-4, 306, Michigan State

Kevin Zeitler, OG, 6-4, 315, Wisconsin

Alex Hoffman, OG, 6-6, 295, Cincinnati

Mason Walters, OG, 6-6, 305, Texas #


Ben Habern, C, 6-3, 292, Oklahoma *

Ben Burkett, C, 6-4, 290, Northwestern

David Molk, C, 6-2, 285, Michigan

Travis Swanson, C, 6-5, 305, Arkansas #

William Vlachos, C, 6-1, 290, Alabama



Kyle Wilber, DE/OLB, 6-5, 235, Wake Forest

Izaan Cross, DE/DT, 6-4, 292, Georgia Tech *

Wes Horton, DE/OLB, 6-5, 260, Southern California *

Armond Armstead, DE, 6-5, 295, Southern California

Ethan Johnson, DE/DT, 6-4, 285, Notre Dame


Brandon Thompson, DT/NT, 6-2, 310, Clemson

John Simon, DT, 6-2, 280, Ohio State *

Jamarkus McFarland, DT, 6-2, 295, Oklahoma *

Nick Jenkins, DT/DE, 6-3, 290, Virginia

Billy Winn, DT/DE, 6-4, 288, Boise State


Ronnell Lewis, OLB/ILB, 6-2, 240, Oklahoma*

Adrian Robinson, OLB, 6-2, 245, Temple

Keenan Robinson, OLB/ILB, 6-3, 232, Texas

Terrell Manning, OLB, 6-3, 224, North Carolina State *

Sean Spence, OLB/S, 6-0, 220, Miami


Tank Carder, ILB/OLB, 6-2, 234, Texas Christian

Tom Wort, ILB/OLB, 6-1, 225, Oklahoma #

Jerry Franklin, ILB, 6-1, 241, Arkansas

Chris Galippo, ILB, 6-2, 250, Southern California

Barquell Rivers, ILB/OLB, 6-0, 235, Virginia Tech


Donnie Fletcher, CB, 6-1, 200, Boston College

Jamell Flemming, CB, 5-11, 195, Oklahoma

Aaron Hester, CB/S, 6-1, 207, UCLA *

Casey Hayward, CB, 6-0, 185, Vanderbilt

D'Anton Lynn, CB, 6-1, 200, Penn State


Nick Moody, FS, 6-2, 225, Florida State *

Sean Cattouse, SS, 6-2, 215, California

Harrison Smith, FS, 6-2, 212, Notre Dame

Rashard Hall, FS, 6-2, 195, Clemson *

Trent Hunter, FS, 5-10, 190, Texas A&M


Blair Walsh, K, 5-10, 185, Georgia

Bryan Anger, P, 6-4, 207, California

Philip Welch, K, 6-3, 198, Wisconsin

LaVon Brazill, KR/WR, 5-11, 191, Ohio

Drew Butler, P, 6-2, 210, Georgia

49erNation85
01-21-2011, 05:49 PM
Kellen Moore should at least be in the top 50 for best QB . Lame .

Day One Pick
01-22-2011, 05:28 AM
Kellen Moore should at least be in the top 50 for best QB . Lame .

He's likely 5-11, 180...he'll be lucky to get drafted. Ask Doug Flutie how that all works.

CashmoneyDrew
01-22-2011, 10:43 AM
Nice work, but why so low on Matt Barkley and Landry Jones? And why so high on Terrelle Pryor?

shylo3716
01-22-2011, 10:47 AM
Lamar Miller will sky-rocket.

descendency
01-22-2011, 01:00 PM
He's likely 5-11, 180...he'll be lucky to get drafted. Ask Doug Flutie how that all works.

If even Russell Wilson is smart enough to go play baseball, surely Kellen Moore will be.

I love how Trent Richardson is #2 on the big board but Mark Ingram is the next Emmitt Smith and he can't crack the top 5 in a weaker class. (I think Richardson is the better back anyways... but what's better than an Emmitt Smith?)

Babylon
01-22-2011, 01:02 PM
Osemele is more of a guard to me, he's not the fleetest guy afoot. My top O-linemen would be:

Matt Kalil
Riley Reiff
Jonathon Martin
David DeCastro

J52
01-22-2011, 01:13 PM
Ray Ray Armstrong? In the top 30? Have you watched a single Hurricanes game? Given last year I'd be shocked if he even got drafted.

JRTPlaya21
01-22-2011, 01:22 PM
You sure are high on Denard Robinson. I'll file him under my usual overly athletic quarterbacks who probably won't play that position in the league.

metafour
01-22-2011, 01:25 PM
Ray Ray Armstrong? In the top 30? Have you watched a single Hurricanes game? Given last year I'd be shocked if he even got drafted.

Looks like he just kind of threw all sorts of highly-ranked players on there. He has Kerry Murphy at #39...dude had a whopping 6.5 tackles this year.

Sniper
01-22-2011, 01:27 PM
Michigan OG Patrick Omameh would be one to keep an eye on. If you can find me a better in-space/second level OL in the country next year, I will rep you ten times.

SchizophrenicBatman
01-22-2011, 01:50 PM
kellen moore can play baseball? at what position? LOOGY?

BuddyCHRIST
01-22-2011, 02:24 PM
Xavier Rhodes is wayyy more of a prospect than Greg Reid, who should be more in the 50's right now. And he is not a /Safety.

Also Richardson is way overrated, he has great triangle numbers and all but he doesn't have much wiggle and is vision leaves something to be desired. He's a solid 1st round pick, but I don't buy the top 5 type guy.

fenikz
01-22-2011, 02:32 PM
Got Burfict too low and Armstrong too high imo

JPP90
01-22-2011, 05:15 PM
I wanna believe you on the Pitt players you ranked because I like Graham and Lindsey but I remember you as the Pitt fan that likened Dion Lewis to Ray Rice and Barry Sanders. And Mike Cruz looks like he should eat a couple value meals and just play OT...can't see him as a top TE. Good effort though...seriously.

SimonRath
01-22-2011, 06:55 PM
Looks like he just kind of threw all sorts of highly-ranked players on there. He has Kerry Murphy at #39...dude had a whopping 6.5 tackles this year.

then he is the type of guy who could have a break out season. yes?

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 07:16 AM
If even Russell Wilson is smart enough to go play baseball, surely Kellen Moore will be.

I love how Trent Richardson is #2 on the big board but Mark Ingram is the next Emmitt Smith and he can't crack the top 5 in a weaker class. (I think Richardson is the better back anyways... but what's better than an Emmitt Smith?)

Ingram was my top prospect for awhile, now he's 5th overall. I think 10 years from now you won't find many, if any from this class with a better pro career than Mark Ingram.

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 07:20 AM
Ray Ray Armstrong? In the top 30? Have you watched a single Hurricanes game? Given last year I'd be shocked if he even got drafted.

He was only a soph. this year and still has 2 years left if he sticks around. With the 2012 draft 15 months away, players have a lot of time to "come into their own." Rankings this early have to be somewhat of a projection. I suspect that if I had Nick Fairly, Da'Quan Bowers, and Blaine Gabbert all ranked in the top 5 last January it would have stuck out...

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 07:21 AM
You sure are high on Denard Robinson. I'll file him under my usual overly athletic quarterbacks who probably won't play that position in the league.

I don't have him ranked as a QB, I have him ranked as an athlete. I'm aware he won't be a QB in the NFL, but could be a Josh Cribbs type of player.

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 07:25 AM
Xavier Rhodes is wayyy more of a prospect than Greg Reid, who should be more in the 50's right now. And he is not a /Safety.

Also Richardson is way overrated, he has great triangle numbers and all but he doesn't have much wiggle and is vision leaves something to be desired. He's a solid 1st round pick, but I don't buy the top 5 type guy.

Why is he not a Safety? Because he doesn't play there in college? These are draft rankings, not rankings of the top college players...there's a difference. At 6-1, 208 with some room to grow there will be teams who don't need a corner but could use a safety and might give him a look. Patrick Peterson will be looked at as both a corner and a safety this year. In fact, I expect the Bengals to draft him and move him to safety.

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 07:28 AM
Looks like he just kind of threw all sorts of highly-ranked players on there. He has Kerry Murphy at #39...dude had a whopping 6.5 tackles this year.

Another soph. with time to improve and live up to the hype. BTW, the kid is a space eater. Don't ever expect a ton of tackles from a player like that. He could play a great game but never get his name called, and you wouldn't notice because it wouldn't show up in the stat line.

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 07:30 AM
Got Burfict too low and Armstrong too high imo

20th overall is pretty high for an ILB. Inside linebackers don't carry a ton of value and typically don't get drafted very high. Burfict will likely be a first round pick, but because of his position and the fact that there are several other very good ILB prospects in this class there are no guarantees. I think I have him ranked just right for now. Room to move up or down.

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 07:35 AM
I wanna believe you on the Pitt players you ranked because I like Graham and Lindsey but I remember you as the Pitt fan that likened Dion Lewis to Ray Rice and Barry Sanders. And Mike Cruz looks like he should eat a couple value meals and just play OT...can't see him as a top TE. Good effort though...seriously.

Again, I didn't compare Lewis to either in the way you want to think I did. I mentioned Rice as an undersized back who isn't a burner who is a very good NFL back. I compared Lewis' running style to Sanders. His quick feet, jump cut, and ability to stop and start.

Mike Cruz is an old school TE. Excellent blocker with nice size and very reliable hands. I have him 9th among TE's which isn't all that high, but I expect him to move up. A complete TE like him could ultimately find himself in the 3rd round.

shylo3716
01-23-2011, 11:00 AM
Why isn't Lamar Miller on the radar?

J52
01-23-2011, 11:28 AM
nm 10

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 01:44 PM
Why isn't Lamar Miller on the radar?

Here's my complete RB rankings to this point. Miller has a chance to move up, but for now I like 13 RB's more than him...


1. Trent Richardson, 5-11, 220, Alabama *

2. LaMichael James, 5-9, 184, Oregon *

3. Chris Polk, 5-11, 215, Washington *

4. Cyrus Gray, 5-10, 198, Texas A&M

5. Andre Ellington, 5-10, 190, Clemson *

6. Knile Davis, 6-0, 220, Arkansas *

7. Bernard Pierce, 6-0, 218, Temple *

8. Kenjon Barner, 5-10, 180, Oregon *

9. Montee Ball, 5-11, 236, Wisconsin *

10. Ray Graham, 5-9, 195, Pitt *

11. David Wilson, 5-10, 200, Virginia Tech *

12. Doug Martin, 5-9, 201, Boise State

13. Ed Wesley, 5-9. 200, Texas Christian *

14. Lamar Miller, 5-10, 210, Miami #

15. Jeff Demps, 5-8, 185, Florida

16. Edwin Baker, 5-9, 210, Michigan State *

17. Washaun Ealey, 5-11, 215, Georgia *

18. Daniel Herron, 5-10, 205, Ohio State

19. Cameron Marshall, 5-11, 218, Arizona State *

20. Jonathan Franklin, 5-10, 200, UCLA *

21. Isiah Pead, 5-10, 193, Cincinnati

JPP90
01-23-2011, 03:37 PM
Again, I didn't compare Lewis to either in the way you want to think I did. I mentioned Rice as an undersized back who isn't a burner who is a very good NFL back. I compared Lewis' running style to Sanders. Hisump cut, and ability to stop and start.

Mike Cruz is an old school TE. Excellent blocker with nice size and very reliable hands. I have him 9th among TE's which isn't all that high, but I expect him to move up. A complete TE like him could ultimately find himself in the 3rd round.

Ill tell ya why I doubt Mike Cruz sniffs the NFL...we have his brother Jose, and he's every bit the TE Mike is. And I'm doubting Jose gets a chance. The Cruz bros. Are both limited athletically but adequate as blockers and pass catchers. Basically they are a dime a dozen at the position.

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 03:58 PM
Ill tell ya why I doubt Mike Cruz sniffs the NFL...we have his brother Jose, and he's every bit the TE Mike is. And I'm doubting Jose gets a chance. The Cruz bros. Are both limited athletically but adequate as blockers and pass catchers. Basically they are a dime a dozen at the position.

No, they used to be a dime a dozen. Now college football is flooded with the "new age" tight ends. Players like Jason Witten and Heath Miller who can block and catch are rare. Those two players games used to be the norm or prototype NFL tight ends. So often now the top TE prospects come with a red flag as an inline blocker because of all the spread offenses out there.

Also, Mike had 19 catches for 213 yards and two TD's as a sophomore and Jose had 13 catches for 78 yards and 1 TD as a senior and 0 for 0 as a junior...so they might not be as equal as you indicate.

JPP90
01-23-2011, 04:09 PM
No, they used to be a dime a dozen. Now college football is flooded with the "new age" tight ends. Players like Jason Witten and Heath Miller who can block and catch are rare. Those two players games used to be the norm or prototype NFL tight ends. So often now the top TE prospects come with a red flag as an inline blocker because of all the spread offenses out there.

Also, Mike had 19 catches for 213 yards and two TD's as a sophomore and Jose had 13 catches for 78 yards and 1 TD as a senior and 0 for 0 as a junior...so they might not be as equal as you indicate.

Those 2 touchdowns came in 1 game. Nice game but show me consistent numbers throughout the course of a season. Bad QB, I know...same thing with Jose. I understand what you're saying about the do it all TE thing, but that isn't Mike Cruz either. He's just a big body playing TE...he isn't going to have the speed to get downfield in the NFL or make anything happen after the catch. If he makes it in the NFL, Ill be amazed.

Day One Pick
01-23-2011, 04:40 PM
Those 2 touchdowns came in 1 game. Nice game but show me consistent numbers throughout the course of a season. Bad QB, I know...same thing with Jose. I understand what you're saying about the do it all TE thing, but that isn't Mike Cruz either. He's just a big body playing TE...he isn't going to have the speed to get downfield in the NFL or make anything happen after the catch. If he makes it in the NFL, Ill be amazed.

You're obviously pretty young because you seem to feel Cruz at 6-5, 255 is just a monster size for a TE. It wasn't long ago that 255 was a tad light for a TE or atleast the norm. These 6-3, 235 TE's (big WR's) are new to the NFL and becoming about the only type available in the draft as well.

JPP90
01-23-2011, 04:56 PM
You're obviously pretty young because you seem to feel Cruz at 6-5, 255 is just a monster size for a TE. It wasn't long ago that 255 was a tad light for a TE or atleast the norm. These 6-3, 235 TE's (big WR's) are new to the NFL and becoming about the only type available in the draft as well.

Yes I'm 10 years old and Mike Cruz is a great TE. You win again. Lol

ThePudge
01-23-2011, 05:34 PM
I think Landry Jones will be a much higher rated prospect by the end of next season than Terrelle Pryor, Nick Foles, and Kirk Cousins. I have Jones as my #2 Quarterback eligible for next season's draft and a Top 10 player Overall. Good arm, tremendous accuracy, and good size. Jones is going to be extremely productive and should lead his team to another Big XII Title.

I think Cousins is every bit as ordinary as Ricky Stanzi and will fall off the map as a prospect. I think Foles is over-hyped and more likely to be 3rd Round pick if he doesn't make dramatic improvements to his game. Pryor, I don't take seriously at all as a pro prospect. I watch a ton of Ohio State football and I've never felt for a second that this is a guy that could be a successful passer in the NFL. He'll probably be drafted within the first three rounds, but if a team tries to groom his as their franchise passer, they're going to be **** out of luck. He has so little control as a passer, very little football IQ, and awful character. Nothing about the guy leads me to believe he good be an NFL starting Quarterback.

Edit: I think Lamar Miller is a much better prospect than you give him credit for. He has excellent speed and star potential. I think he has a chance to have a terrific pro career and be a First Round pick. Right now, I'd grade him 2nd out of the backs you listed, though James/Knile Davis aren't far behind.

ChiFan24
01-23-2011, 06:05 PM
Chris Polk #3? Really?

DandyFlowers
01-23-2011, 11:50 PM
WR Juron Criner Arizona

SenorGato
01-24-2011, 02:11 AM
Devin Taylor is the Pierre-Paul to Cliff Matthews' George Selvie. Jared Crick is just a solid propsect...the Cameron Heyward of next draft. Looks like a sick draft, but like every draft early on there's alot of emphasis on the juniors...Burfict is going to be bigtime.

Also, I have to say that I like Alshon Jeffery is a bigger, badder version of Dez Bryant, and will take the title of best WR prospect since Calvin Johnson.

Riley Reiff is my top OT...Martin from Stanford would be next...then Kalil...Barkley would be my #2 QB but I think it's almost a lock he stays in school...then again Sanchez left...Mike Martin is Broderick Bunkley 2.0....Kerry Murphy and Josh Chapman are going to be two useful Alabama space eaters...I like Chapman alot and think he's as good a prospect as Powe is...Murphy will stay for his senior year and develop, because he's still got to mature physically and do things like see the field...if he came out he'd be like that Clemson DT who came out a couple years ago then went back and changed his named to Jarvis Jenkins for this year's draft...'Bama D should do some big things next year both in the draft and on the field...Saban has done such a sick job with that program...they're years off but that school could hit the NFL with a Miami U-esque wave of talent over the coming years (unless 2012 ends us all)....Nick Toon should end up a fan favorite if everything goes well enough.

Day One Pick
01-24-2011, 05:32 AM
WR Juron Criner Arizona

1. Alshon Jeffery, 6-4, 232, South Carolina *

2. Justin Blackmon, 6-1, 207, Oklahoma State *

3. Mohamed Sanu, 6-2, 218, Rutgers *

4. Michael Floyd, 6-3, 220, Notre Dame

5. Ryan Broyles, 5-11, 178, Oklahoma

6. DeVier Posey, 6-3, 205, Ohio State

7. Jeff Fuller, 6-4, 215, Texas A&M

8. Nick Toon, 6-3, 212, Wisconsin

9. T.J. Moe, 6-0, 200, Missouri *

10. Greg Childs, 6-3, 217, Arkansas

11. Marquis Maze, 5-10, 182, Alabama

12. Chris Owusu, 6-2, 201, Stanford

13. T.Y. Hilton, 5-10, 183, Florida International

14. Marvin McNutt, 6-4, 215, Iowa

15. Dyrell Roberts, 6-1, 190, Virginia Tech

16. Bryce McNeal, 6-1, 180, Clemson #

17. Dwight Jones, 6-4, 215, North Carolina

18. Juron Criner, 6-4, 210, Arizona

19. Jarrett Boykin, 6-2, 215, Virginia Tech

20. Derek Moye, 6-5, 202, Penn State

21. Kendall Wright, 5-10, 185, Baylor

22. Emory Blake, 6-1, 192, Auburn *

23. Rishard Mathews, 6-2, 215, Nevada

24. Jermaine Kearse, 6-2, 205, Washington

25. Eric Page, 5-10, 185, Toledo *

26. Malcolm Williams, 6-3, 220, Texas

27. Travis Benjamin, 5-10, 176, Miami

28. B.J. Cunningham, 6-2, 220, Michigan State

29. Damaris Johnson, 5-8, 175, Tulsa

30. D.J. Woods, 6-1, 176, Cincinnati

Hollywood
01-24-2011, 09:01 AM
Ray Ray Armstrong? In the top 30? Have you watched a single Hurricanes game? Given last year I'd be shocked if he even got drafted.

I questioned that as well as I think Ray Ray's starting job may be in jeopardy, but the dude does have outstanding measurables and the coaching staff just needs to find the right place to play him to use his athleticism. He isn't a safety IMO.

wordofi
01-24-2011, 09:22 AM
If even Russell Wilson is smart enough to go play baseball, surely Kellen Moore will be.

I love how Trent Richardson is #2 on the big board but Mark Ingram is the next Emmitt Smith and he can't crack the top 5 in a weaker class. (I think Richardson is the better back anyways... but what's better than an Emmitt Smith?)

We'll see who's better in the future. You're probably right. However, Ingram is the more natural runner at this point in time.

shylo3716
01-24-2011, 10:46 AM
Vaughn Telemaque should be on the radar as well. He had a pretty good season this year.

DandyFlowers
01-24-2011, 09:46 PM
Criner as your 18th WideOut is pretty bad. Actually its full on bad.

dannyz
01-24-2011, 10:25 PM
I think if Burfict works at it, he could become a Patrick Willis like Prospect.

MrRedskins
01-25-2011, 02:14 AM
Vontaze Burfict is waaay too low.
Nick Moody is in the top 100, IMO.
I'm lovin the Nick Foles and Nigel Bradham love, yes indeed!!

Day One Pick
01-25-2011, 05:47 AM
Criner as your 18th WideOut is pretty bad. Actually its full on bad.

I don't. I see him as lanky with inconsistant hands. He's not all that fast, isn't close to being a polished route runner, primarily because he can't get in and out of his breaks quickly. Not to mention the 17 I have ahead of him are all pretty good players. Criner is a decent mid round prospect who shines a little brighter than he should on an Arizona offense that isn't exactly loaded with a ton of firepower. That's what I see, did I see the wrong games?

Day One Pick
01-25-2011, 07:06 AM
Vontaze Burfict is waaay too low.
Nick Moody is in the top 100, IMO.
I'm lovin the Nick Foles and Nigel Bradham love, yes indeed!!

20th out of about 10,000 is low?

Day One Pick
01-25-2011, 07:08 AM
Vaughn Telemaque should be on the radar as well. He had a pretty good season this year.

Yeah he's one (of many) I forgot. I'll have to work him in somewhere. Probably the 8-12 among safeties range.

LizardState
01-25-2011, 09:34 AM
1. Trent Richardson, 5-11, 220, Alabama *

That's what he was listed last summer, he was a little beefier & closer to 230 during the season. Saban wants him to get his weight back down this yr. He also needs to stop trying to be the next Earl Campbell & running over ppl. vs. avoiding the tacklers.

Speaking of Tide offensive players 2 drafts from now:

Marquis Maze, 5-10, 182, Alabama

Among his great non-measurables are his excellent hands, had more circus catches than anyone the past 2 yrs. Reminds me a lot of a younger, faster Josh Morgan of the 9ers, he will make some NFL team very happy as a possession receiver

MrRedskins
01-25-2011, 10:56 AM
20th out of about 10,000 is low?
Hell yeah, it doesn't matter if its out of 500,000 players...if it's too low, it's too low...he is a top 12-15 player

Clarkw267
01-25-2011, 11:27 AM
I think Landry Jones will be a much higher rated prospect by the end of next season than Terrelle Pryor, Nick Foles, and Kirk Cousins. I have Jones as my #2 Quarterback eligible for next season's draft and a Top 10 player Overall. Good arm, tremendous accuracy, and good size. Jones is going to be extremely productive and should lead his team to another Big XII Title.

I think Cousins is every bit as ordinary as Ricky Stanzi and will fall off the map as a prospect. I think Foles is over-hyped and more likely to be 3rd Round pick if he doesn't make dramatic improvements to his game. Pryor, I don't take seriously at all as a pro prospect. I watch a ton of Ohio State football and I've never felt for a second that this is a guy that could be a successful passer in the NFL. He'll probably be drafted within the first three rounds, but if a team tries to groom his as their franchise passer, they're going to be **** out of luck. He has so little control as a passer, very little football IQ, and awful character. Nothing about the guy leads me to believe he good be an NFL starting Quarterback.

Edit: I think Lamar Miller is a much better prospect than you give him credit for. He has excellent speed and star potential. I think he has a chance to have a terrific pro career and be a First Round pick. Right now, I'd grade him 2nd out of the backs you listed, though James/Knile Davis aren't far behind.

+1

Having Cousins over Barkley and Jones is laughable IMO. Cousins will be lucky to show an average NFL arm. I personally don't feel he's even as good as Stanzi.

Clarkw267
01-25-2011, 11:30 AM
Michigan OG Patrick Omameh would be one to keep an eye on. If you can find me a better in-space/second level OL in the country next year, I will rep you ten times.

Omameh is definitely an athlete to watch. With Hoke and Co. in town he will probably add some bulk, and it will be interesting to see how he adjusts to a new blocking scheme.

Day One Pick
01-25-2011, 02:18 PM
Hell yeah, it doesn't matter if its out of 500,000 players...if it's too low, it's too low...he is a top 12-15 player

Splitting hairs a bit aren't you?

Ghost of Juice
01-25-2011, 02:57 PM
I would take Robert Griffin over Terrelle Pryor any day of the week.

JPP90
01-25-2011, 09:34 PM
I would take Robert Griffin over Terrelle Pryor any day of the week.

WR- agreed.

QB- neither.

JPP90
01-25-2011, 09:43 PM
I don't. I see him as lanky with inconsistant hands. He's not all that fast, isn't close to being a polished route runner, primarily because he can't get in and out of his breaks quickly. Not to mention the 17 I have ahead of him are all pretty good players. Criner is a decent mid round prospect who shines a little brighter than he should on an Arizona offense that isn't exactly loaded with a ton of firepower. That's what I see, did I see the wrong games?

I caught 4-5 Zona games this year and in every one he looked like a bonafide playmaker. Bottom line, can't argue with his production and his ability to make plays downfield. He wouldn't have the 18th best WR this year and he won't be the 18th best next year. You can nit-pick any WR really outside of an elite guy like Fitz or Calvin Johnson. Baldwin is considered a top WR this year and he's really not. Ton of flaws. You can most certainly have a WR like Criner in the 1st-2nd round.

thebow305
01-25-2011, 10:03 PM
Ray Ray Armstrong? In the top 30? Have you watched a single Hurricanes game? Given last year I'd be shocked if he even got drafted.

And I must counter by asking, did YOU watch any Hurricanes games this year? I was at every home game and some away games and other than Spence, it seemed like he was the only one making plays on the field for us. Constantly cleaning up for Colin McCarthy and co. this year. I do admit he isn't as much of a playmaker and turnover guy as I'd hoped he'd be so far, but if it wasn't for dumb Shannon and his weird man love for Jojo Nicolas, he'd be a full-timer and easily the top safety prospect next year. Still is IMO. Golden will see that.

Lamar Miller will sky-rocket.

This.


And IMO, it's laughable how low you have Brandon Washington, while you have Osemele the top OT prospect? Osemele is projected as a guard at the next level and still probably isn't the prospect B-Wash is. And to not have Miller or Telemaque ranked at all here? WTF? Miller is at least a Top 10 back next year. Legit.

Day One Pick
01-26-2011, 05:10 AM
I caught 4-5 Zona games this year and in every one he looked like a bonafide playmaker. Bottom line, can't argue with his production and his ability to make plays downfield. He wouldn't have the 18th best WR this year and he won't be the 18th best next year. You can nit-pick any WR really outside of an elite guy like Fitz or Calvin Johnson. Baldwin is considered a top WR this year and he's really not. Ton of flaws. You can most certainly have a WR like Criner in the 1st-2nd round.

I expect Baldwin to be drafted in the 2nd round...

Day One Pick
01-26-2011, 05:19 AM
And I must counter by asking, did YOU watch any Hurricanes games this year? I was at every home game and some away games and other than Spence, it seemed like he was the only one making plays on the field for us. Constantly cleaning up for Colin McCarthy and co. this year. I do admit he isn't as much of a playmaker and turnover guy as I'd hoped he'd be so far, but if it wasn't for dumb Shannon and his weird man love for Jojo Nicolas, he'd be a full-timer and easily the top safety prospect next year. Still is IMO. Golden will see that.



This.


And IMO, it's laughable how low you have Brandon Washington, while you have Osemele the top OT prospect? Osemele is projected as a guard at the next level and still probably isn't the prospect B-Wash is. And to not have Miller or Telemaque ranked at all here? WTF? Miller is at least a Top 10 back next year. Legit.

I have Brandon Washington 4th among OG's...

I stated that I forgot Telemaque and need to work him in. If you put together rankings for 2012, are you certain you would include every single player who should be included? Don't you think you would leave a player here and a player there out? Still have 15 months to go...

Sorry, Miller's less than 700 career rushing yards doesn't warrant him to be among the top 10 of RB's yet. Everyone I have ahead of him carries a more impressive resume at this point.

metafour
01-26-2011, 10:40 AM
Another soph. with time to improve and live up to the hype. BTW, the kid is a space eater. Don't ever expect a ton of tackles from a player like that. He could play a great game but never get his name called, and you wouldn't notice because it wouldn't show up in the stat line.

Word today is that he is being placed on medical hardship at Alabama...ie: Saban needs scholarship room and Kerry Murphy isn't living up to the hype.