Rap Thread

[litlharsh]

Every track is good man. You look at discussions about it and everyone's naming different tracks for their favorite and no one's saying anything about listen that's a real nice single out for a while now. Definitely quality level and about beautiful struggle/ right about now

It's studly.

[DuckHunt]

What are some good songs out?

[yourfavestoner]

Yay Areaaaaa.

[Its all about The U]

this thread needs more Wu Tang

go listen to Uzi (Pinky Ring) the RZA's beats are insane

[Hines]

how about c.r.e.a.m

[cunningham06]

how about c.r.e.a.m

Cream and triumph are my favorite Wu Tang songs. Also we haven't talked much about Public Enemy either, who I'm also a big fan of.

[KCJ58]

Cream and triumph are my favorite Wu Tang songs.


Ice Cream is my favorite by Raekwon

[jbeans187]

Might have been said already, but Kanye's new tracks are amazing. Check out "Stronger" and "Cant tell me nothing". Lil Waynes new mixtape, The drought is over 3, has some tracks from tha carter 3, they are good too. Also Game released his Dr. Dre tracks that were supposed to be on his last cd, these 6 or 7 songs alone could be sold as an album

[Aftermath]

Da Rockwilder /w Method and Red is fire.

[Its all about The U]

who would you say are the greatest rap groups of all time

i'd go

1. Wu Tang Clan
2. N.W.A.
3. Public Enemy
4. A Tribe Called Quest
5. Run DMC / Beasite Boys

[YAYareaRB]

who would you say are the greatest rap groups of all time

i'd go

1. Wu Tang Clan
2. N.W.A.
3. Public Enemy
4. A Tribe Called Quest
5. Run DMC / Beasite Boys

I would seriously give Outkast a nod for one of the Greatest Groups of All Time.. Three Six have been doing it steady for a long time now. Good list tho..

[-black]

who would you say are the greatest rap groups of all time

i'd go

1. Wu Tang Clan
2. N.W.A.
3. Public Enemy
4. A Tribe Called Quest
5. Run DMC / Beasite Boys

no particular order (does duo's count?)

Bone Thugz, Hot Boys, Fugees, Geto Boys, Goodie Mob, Outkast, Dead Prez, Gang Starr

[KCJ58]

who would you say are the greatest rap groups of all time

i'd go

1. Wu Tang Clan
2. N.W.A.
3. Public Enemy
4. A Tribe Called Quest
5. Run DMC / Beasite Boys


here's my list talent wise

1. Gang Starr
2. Outkast
3. Wu Tang Clan
4. Mobb Deep
5. NWA

[etk]

who would you say are the greatest rap groups of all time

i'd go

1. Wu Tang Clan
2. N.W.A.
3. Public Enemy
4. A Tribe Called Quest
5. Run DMC / Beasite Boys

Top 10 is more suitable. Then you can include UGK, Outkast, etc.

I don't really consider Gang Starr to be a group.

[YAYareaRB]

The Mob Figaz! It's thaaa MOB!

[Its all about The U]

i didn't consider duos a group, or gang starr would be up there

[wiscbadgerfootball]

1. Jurassic 5
2. Blackalicious
3. The Roots
4. Public Enemy
5. Outkast

something like that for me

[cardsalltheway]

Might have been said already, but Kanye's new tracks are amazing. Check out "Stronger" and "Cant tell me nothing". Lil Waynes new mixtape, The drought is over 3, has some tracks from tha carter 3, they are good too. Also Game released his Dr. Dre tracks that were supposed to be on his last cd, these 6 or 7 songs alone could be sold as an album

I'm a big Kanye fan, but I didn't really like "Can't Tell Me Nothing" that much. I'm gonna go check out "Stronger" right now.

[Phrost]

I'm a big Kanye fan, but I didn't really like "Can't Tell Me Nothing" that much. I'm gonna go check out "Stronger" right now.

kanye West sampling Daft Punk...never thought I'd see that. Daft Punk is sweet though.

[LitoSheppard]

Boosie
the best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNhOPiglM7k -they dykin


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAtafgM9ppU&mode=related&search= -smokin on purple


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi7rifYwHsw&mode=related&search= -wipe me down

[Green Bay Scat]

I remember when i got the Lil Boosie and Webbie CDs(burned) and people thought they were ***, now they like wipe me down. Its funny how just 1 song can change a persons view on a rapper, like Shoulder Lean was huge, then died and now no one cares about dro, its weird

[LitoSheppard]

I remember when i got the Lil Boosie and Webbie CDs(burned) and people thought they were ***, now they like wipe me down. Its funny how just 1 song can change a persons view on a rapper, like Shoulder Lean was huge, then died and now no one cares about dro, its weird

That's not me, I've been with boosie n webbie before wipe me down
wipe me down, they dykn, smokin on purple, set it off, touchdown ,zoom, hatin, and a couple more, so im loyal to boosie im not bandwagon or anything

[Green Bay Scat]

that a boy, I liked that Webbie freestyle off os Stay Fly i believe of Savage Life. My friend was like that ***** is weak, course hes a "blood" and from LA or sum ********. lol fat black was more like it

[cardsalltheway]

kanye West sampling Daft Punk...never thought I'd see that. Daft Punk is sweet though.

I don't think there's anything Kanye wouldn't sample.

[ripdw27]

most of dj khaleds work is great.. love t-pain n the song im so hood is good... Chamillionaire is awesome to... and as for Kanye West, i think his best song is Touch The Sky

[Scarface]

the best rapper out there is either 50 cent or will smith they are so good and dont promote getting drunk on weed and stuff

i agree +rep

[Hines]

ive gotten a little knack for listening to do or die now

[Cunit2k7]

most of dj khaleds work is great.. love t-pain n the song im so hood is good... Chamillionaire is awesome to... and as for Kanye West, i think his best song is Touch The Sky

dj khaled stinks. t pain is weak. chamillionaire good. kanye west is ***.

go listen to to some real rap
Bone thugs
2pac
biggie
gangstarr
outkast
nas
dr dre
wu tang

there isnt such a thing as rap right. it is hip pop every rapper now would get crushed by the OG's

[Cunit2k7]

who would you say are the greatest rap groups of all time

i'd go

1. Wu Tang Clan
2. N.W.A.
3. Public Enemy
4. A Tribe Called Quest
5. Run DMC / Beasite Boys

1. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (too unique and too many hits also only ones to collab with eazy e, Big, 2pac, big pun, many more)
2. Wu Tang Clan (lyrical geniuses)
3. N.W.A. (were the pioneers but IMO dont match the skills of the first 2 groups)
4. Outkast (unique style and great lyrics)
5. Run DMC (old school)

[duckseason]

dj khaled stinks. t pain is weak. chamillionaire good. kanye west is ***.

go listen to to some real rap
Bone thugs
2pac
biggie
gangstarr
outkast
nas
dr dre
wu tang

there isnt such a thing as rap right. it is hip pop every rapper now would get crushed by the OG's
I find this post to be very enlightening. Your knowledge seems vast and your speech is eloquent. Please, tell us more so that we can be cool like you. Tell us more about this "biggie" and "2pac" you speak of.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Hip hop is so weak right now and really has been since 94, the only "popular" rapper worth anything right now is Common as he's still doing it despite Kanye's beats. Common is a top 5 emcee don't care what anyone says, if you don't think so you don't know hip hop, with his new stuff I don't particularly like most of his beats but the content is still rediculous. He's been doing it for a while now and all of his stuff is classic other than maybe Electric Circus but that was a daring album and can be considered musical genius, just not my flavor. I cringe when I hear people saying "isn't he that guy from the gap commercial." Everyone thinks he's soft or whatever but he is a lyricist, and anyone who has listened to resurrection or like water for chocolate knows that he has some of the hardest and most raw lyrics ever. He could rap to no beat and I'd buy it, his lyrical content is amazing, for anyone who wants real hip hop do some research on him because he is commonly no pun intended mis perceived. He is by far my fave new age rapper. Rap right now is so bad, the new jack movement really corrupted it as well as the west coast movement which has evolved into crap. Still my faves will always be Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, and of course Slick Rick, the dude didn't write rhymes he told stories. Also a lot that I have left out of course KRS, Kurt Blow, Melle Mel.

[Cunit2k7]

I find this post to be very enlightening. Your knowledge seems vast and your speech is eloquent. Please, tell us more so that we can be cool like you. Tell us more about this "biggie" and "2pac" you speak of.

notorious thugs has some of raps nastiest verses ever. (big and bizzy)

[duckseason]

notorious thugs has some of raps nastiest verses ever. (big and bizzy)

For real? Never heard of them. Do you know how to freestyle? There used to be a guy on here named jetsfuture who would post his freestyles all the time and it was very entertaining. He got banned though because his lyrics were way too hardcore for this site.

[Cunit2k7]

For real? Never heard of them. Do you know how to freestyle? There used to be a guy on here named jetsfuture who would post his freestyles all the time and it was very entertaining. He got banned though because his lyrics were way too hardcore for this site.

no sir. just listen and try to sing with song not my own stuff

[WinslowBodden]

I find this post to be very enlightening. Your knowledge seems vast and your speech is eloquent. Please, tell us more so that we can be cool like you. Tell us more about this "biggie" and "2pac" you speak of.

You don't know Notorious BIG or 2pac...?

[duckseason]

no sir. just listen and try to sing with song not my own stuff

Alright well I'll stop messing with you then. I thought we might have a diamond in the rough on our hands here.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Just like to share Melle Mel's most recent video. Video is kinda corny but for his age he is still hitting it. He was one of the original grandfathers for hip hop, everyone gives Grandmaster flash credit but it is Melle Mel who drew everyone in, his rhyme used to be so crazy. Most Emcee's his age have lossed it but he is still great. I mean he's almost 50 years old and look at them damn muscles. Funny how his CD is entitle "Muscles". There would be no Biggie or Tupac if there wasn't Mel.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2tJR09b-Tsc

[duckseason]

You don't know Notorious BIG or 2pac...?
No I don't. Please tell me about them.

[Cunit2k7]

I understand your POV but my statement isn't ignorant in any sense. I'm not one that says "Tupac's the best" after listening to Thugs Mansion a few times. His songs were were all different and meant something. Although I like BIG, all his songs are about weed, girls, and liqour. Compared to Tupac he's just got nice flow/rhymes. Tupac had a remarkable talent of flow + storytelling/meaning. Perfect example is "Brenda's Got a Baby". It has nice rhymes/flow, no repeat chorus over and over, and tells a depictive story. Plus he's got so many great songs.
I'm interested to hear who you think is better because I don't think there is any. Not saying it in a bad way, I just don't know anyone out there.

agreed for the most part. the thing i liked about biggie more than anyone was how smooth he was on the mic. two different styles tupac is more the realer harder style talking about stuff that hes witnessed and stuff that goes on in the hood whereas biggie man makes stuff about living the life of a celebrity of that. both are amazing its hard to say whos better because they are both unique talents. i personally think big could switch it up more like in notorious thugs he tried to adapt the bone style and he laid that down perfectly. i personally never thought tupac switched it up as much.

[ArtfulDodger]

Ghettosermon is just getting old.... Hiphop is as good as it has ever been. Just because its not on the radio doesn't mean its dead.

Bone Thugz and Harmony suck.

[WinslowBodden]

No I don't. Please tell me about them.

......................................

They are legends... If you honestly don't know about them you don't know what "rap" actually is.

[duckseason]

......................................

They are legends... If you honestly don't know about them you don't know what "rap" actually is.

And if you honestly thought that wasn't sarcasm then you don't know how to detect it when it's tapping you on the shoulder.

[WinslowBodden]

And if you honestly thought that wasn't sarcasm then you don't know how to detect it when it's tapping you on the shoulder.

Thats why I said if you are serious and I put the dots, I thought it was sarcasm...

Alot of the posters on this site are around 17 or 18 so I didn't know if you had actually heard of them or you were being sarcastic. I was thinking (and praying) that you were being sarcastic, thats why I didn't care to elaborate.

[duckseason]

Thats why I said if you are serious and I put the dots, I thought it was sarcasm...

Alot of the posters on this site are around 17 or 18 so I didn't know if you had actually heard of them or you were being sarcastic. I was thinking (and praying) that you were being sarcastic, thats why I didn't care to elaborate.

Yeah, no need to ask. That first post was blatantly sarcastic. I was just trying to have a little fun here. Didn't really work out though.

[WinslowBodden]

Yeah, no need to ask. That first post was blatantly sarcastic. I was just trying to have a little fun here. Didn't really work out though.

Damn you crazy Europeans ;)

[Cunit2k7]

what do u guys think is the best rap cd ever? i am a little biased to bone because i have been listening to them since i was 5. with that said im going to say E.1999 Eternal for the best rap cd ever. There are plenty of cds you can make a good case for mine being that there are no weak tracks on this album and the weaker ones are still listenable. also with classics like down 71, tha crossroads, first of the month, buddah lovaz, mo murda, mr bill collector, east 1999, eternal, da introduction this is truly a masterpiece. others i would consider as great are ready to die, illmatic, chronic 2001, moment of truth.

[Moses]

dj khaled stinks. t pain is weak. chamillionaire good. kanye west is ***.

go listen to to some real rap
Bone thugs
2pac
biggie
gangstarr
outkast
nas
dr dre
wu tang

there isnt such a thing as rap right. it is hip pop every rapper now would get crushed by the OG's

How are those rappers "OG's"?

[Cunit2k7]

How are those rappers "OG's"?

true the ogs are like nwa public enemy run dmc but compared to today they are og's. i consider the best from the 90s the og's because that was when rap was at its peak.

[etk]

How are those rappers "OG's"?

I was waiting for someone to comment...

Bone Thugz do suck, BTW. Whoever said that before is a smart man.

[Cunit2k7]

I was waiting for someone to comment...

Bone Thugz do suck, BTW. Whoever said that before is a smart man.

how do they suck? they have one of the greatset rap cd's ever as well as many amazing songs
Thuggish Ruggish Bone
For the Love of $
No Surrender
Crossroads
East 1999
First of the Month
Days of our Livez

how can bone thugs suck when they invented a new style and have collaborated with biggie, 2pac, eazy e, mariah carey, big pun, twista, etc.
and they have sold 30 million+ records
it is hard to find a more influential song and more popular song in rap history compared to tha crossroads. that is a fact not opinion. crossroads tied the beatles record for fastest rising single. won a grammy for best music video and much more.

[ArtfulDodger]

Lol you said collaborated with Mariah Carey and Twista like it was some accomplishment. HEHEHEHE

[Cunit2k7]

Lol you said collaborated with Mariah Carey and Twista like it was some accomplishment. HEHEHEHE

mariah carey is one of the biggset music artists of our generation. ya the collabo on her cd was nice (not lil love). and the two collabos with twista have been nice. i forgot to mention before that bone's first stuff was in 1991 so ya i would consider them og's. i would love to her how they suck considering their resume.

[Moses]

mariah carey is one of the biggset music artists of our generation. ya the collabo on her cd was nice (not lil love). and the two collabos with twista have been nice. i forgot to mention before that bone's first stuff was in 1991 so ya i would consider them og's. i would love to her how they suck considering their resume.

What is an OG to you? You just keep throwing out that term in the most random spots. OG, as I know it, is an older gangster ("original gangster") who is a leader in a gang. I have no idea how that relates to Bone Thugs N Harmony or any of these other rappers for that matter.

[Cunit2k7]

What is an OG to you? You just keep throwing out that term in the most random spots. OG, as I know it, is an older gangster ("original gangster") who is a leader in a gang. I have no idea how that relates to Bone Thugs N Harmony or any of these other rappers for that matter.

i look at it as original gangsters in the rap game. early 90s rappers late 80s rappers? 2pac biggie nwa public enemy bone wu tang. doesnt have to refer only to a gang member but if u want to put it that way... they were in a gang in cleveland.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

If you wanna go as late as the mid-late 80's Big Daddy Kane is the "Original G" anyone who tells you different is wrong, but not mentioning Rakim is so wrong.

[Cunit2k7]

If you wanna go as late as the mid-late 80's Big Daddy Kane is the "Original G" anyone who tells you different is wrong, but not mentioning Rakim is so wrong.

i ain't no joke

[CherryGarcia510]

what do u guys think is the best rap cd ever? i am a little biased to bone because i have been listening to them since i was 5. with that said im going to say E.1999 Eternal for the best rap cd ever. There are plenty of cds you can make a good case for mine being that there are no weak tracks on this album and the weaker ones are still listenable. also with classics like down 71, tha crossroads, first of the month, buddah lovaz, mo murda, mr bill collector, east 1999, eternal, da introduction this is truly a masterpiece. others i would consider as great are ready to die, illmatic, chronic 2001, moment of truth.


in my opinion illmatic or reasonable doubt

[Cunit2k7]

in my opinion illmatic or reasonable doubt

im not the biggest fan of jay z for whatever reason i dont see him as the legend he is made out to be.

[jkpigskin]

If you wanna go as late as the mid-late 80's Big Daddy Kane is the "Original G" anyone who tells you different is wrong, but not mentioning Rakim is so wrong.

rakim is real good, i wish i knew more of his stuff

[jkpigskin]

o and bone thugs n harmony is great
they have unbelievable flow because they can rap faster than most, and their lyrics are strong....
i really like them

[SugarSean]

MM3. Coming in December. If you don't know what that is, then do some research.

[ArtfulDodger]

Cage - The subtle art of the breakup.

Live in awe of greatness.

[YAYareaRB]

im not the biggest fan of jay z for whatever reason i dont see him as the legend he is made out to be.

How do you figure? Jay-Z has been consistently good, over the years. More consistent than Bone Thugs N Harmony. I'm not hating on Bone Thugs but I don't see them as the 'OGs' you're making them out to be. I don't even like Jay-Z that much. I only care for a couple songs. I think he has flow and I know he's been consistent with it since his beginnings.

[Hines]

MM3. Coming in December. If you don't know what that is, then do some research.

sweet..do u think that this will be ems biggest cd

i do think its shady right?

[islandboy843]

sweet..do u think that this will be ems biggest cd

i do think its shady right?


No he means Mood Musik 3.

Joe Budden's Mixtape

The other 2 were classics.

[SugarSean]

No he means Mood Musik 3.

Joe Budden's Mixtape

The other 2 were classics.


We have a winner. I been tryin to get so many people to give Budden a chance recently that I should be on his payroll. I really just wanna see good hip-hop spread. You can't listen to Ransom note and tell me it's not one of the top 5 diss tracks of all time. Dude is too talented.

[Cunit2k7]

How do you figure? Jay-Z has been consistently good, over the years. More consistent than Bone Thugs N Harmony. I'm not hating on Bone Thugs but I don't see them as the 'OGs' you're making them out to be. I don't even like Jay-Z that much. I only care for a couple songs. I think he has flow and I know he's been consistent with it since his beginnings.

i know he has had a better career. he has been more consistent for a longer period of time i just dont think he is as good as biggie 2pac nas eazy e rakim and the other great artists that he is put in the same category with. he is a good rapper but i dont think he should be considered one of the best. he has had a great deal of success but a lot of it comes from his commercial stand point. many things played into him being big like being associated with puff and biggie also the whole deal with nas. bone's lack of consistent success has been because of the whole bizzy thing, ruthless, and they are from the midwest. i never thought jay z was that sweet because he doesnt change it up that much he sounds the same IMO.

[YAYareaRB]

i know he has had a better career. he has been more consistent for a longer period of time i just dont think he is as good as biggie 2pac nas eazy e rakim and the other great artists that he is put in the same category with. he is a good rapper but i dont think he should be considered one of the best. he has had a great deal of success but a lot of it comes from his commercial stand point. many things played into him being big like being associated with puff and biggie also the whole deal with nas. bone's lack of consistent success has been because of the whole bizzy thing, ruthless, and they are from the midwest. i never thought jay z was that sweet because he doesnt change it up that much he sounds the same IMO.


And you like Bone Thugs who are set apart from the rest because the way they sound and rap? or is just because they're some "OGs" from Ohio?

[Cunit2k7]

And you like Bone Thugs who are set apart from the rest because the way they sound and rap? or is just because they're some "OGs" from Ohio?

i like them because they are extremely unique and i feel they incorporate a lot of acutal musical elements into their rapping. If you have ever heard days of our livez you will know what I am talking about. The intro the that song is unbelievable and I have never honestly heard a rap song that can match that in terms of rapping and incorporating music. I like bone thugs because they can do thuggish songs and then they can do sweet laid back ones. Back in the day they were disgusting on the mic and the delivery on every verse was correct. A lot of rappers are monotone and I find them boring. There a few that i can stand like Gangstarr. I personally like bone because its not just rapping, they took it to another level with the harmony side that appeals to me. Is that ok for you?

[T-RICH49]

Anyone heard Plies album?Pretty good

[Paul]

i know he has had a better career. he has been more consistent for a longer period of time i just dont think he is as good as biggie 2pac nas eazy e rakim and the other great artists that he is put in the same category with. he is a good rapper but i dont think he should be considered one of the best. he has had a great deal of success but a lot of it comes from his commercial stand point. many things played into him being big like being associated with puff and biggie also the whole deal with nas. bone's lack of consistent success has been because of the whole bizzy thing, ruthless, and they are from the midwest. i never thought jay z was that sweet because he doesnt change it up that much he sounds the same IMO.

Easy E? What has he done to be even mentioned in that group. He didn't write his own stuff, as he had Cube and other ghostwriters working with him. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere on there.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Bone Thugs is a solid group although always confused with what their lyrical content should be, with that said other than a couple of Krayzie's stuff, Bone's solo albums are nothing short of pathetic and awful. Layzie in particular his solo albums can be on a list of worst hip hop albums ever. Also Wish Bone has never fit in with me. Doesn't fit in well with their style and is a weak rapper in his own.

[Hines]

We have a winner. I been tryin to get so many people to give Budden a chance recently that I should be on his payroll. I really just wanna see good hip-hop spread. You can't listen to Ransom note and tell me it's not one of the top 5 diss tracks of all time. Dude is too talented.

that is a really good beef right now..i heard all the disses and im like wow they both going hard

[Cunit2k7]

Bone Thugs is a solid group although always confused with what their lyrical content should be, with that said other than a couple of Krayzie's stuff, Bone's solo albums are nothing short of pathetic and awful. Layzie in particular his solo albums can be on a list of worst hip hop albums ever. Also Wish Bone has never fit in with me. Doesn't fit in well with their style and is a weak rapper in his own.

you are right besides krayzie bone no other member has had a successful solo career. they definitely feed off of each other which is why they have been able to survive 15 years or so in the game. layzie had like 2 decent solos like thug by nature was nice and the collabo album with the guy from outlawz was decent. you are right about wish although i feel he was pretty good back in the day when they were at their peak. he has definitely fallen off but every once in a while he puts out a pretty good verse.

[Cunit2k7]

Easy E? What has he done to be even mentioned in that group. He didn't write his own stuff, as he had Cube and other ghostwriters working with him. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere on there.

Eazy e man was one of the first people to do gangster rap and if it wasnt for eazy e bone thugs would not exist. For what he did in his short life he was one of the best. im not going to comment on the verse stuff because i dont know whether or not u are right. He did have a few cds though that were good so i doubt he didnt write any of his own stuff.

[Paul]

Eazy e man was one of the first people to do gangster rap and if it wasnt for eazy e bone thugs would not exist. For what he did in his short life he was one of the best. im not going to comment on the verse stuff because i dont know whether or not u are right. He did have a few cds though that were good so i doubt he didnt write any of his own stuff.

Finding Bone thugs hardly puts you in the same league as Nas and Rakim. And what exactly did Easy he do that made him "one of the best"? He didn't write, he didn't produce, he was just lucky enough to be around guys like Ren, Dre and Cube. In fact the classic and E's most notable song "Boyz-n-the-Hood" was written by Cube. If anything he was just a good business man.

[Cunit2k7]

real muthaphucking g's