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xpmar9x
02-04-2011, 08:09 AM
NEW THREAD:
http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45660

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So is anyone interested in doing a 3-round mock draft. If it goes well, we can do additional rounds. No trades, that just makes it to complicated.

We'll have a poster for all 32 teams, and go through the draft. Each poster makes the selection for their team, as if your the "GM". Should be fun.

Here's the available teams, just reply if you want to join and with what team you want to be.

49ers - MaybeDavis
Bears - 19 and 88
Bengals - MI_Buckeye
Bills - Captain Canuck
Broncos - DanHawkins
Browns - thenewfeature06
Bucaneers - xpmar9x
Cardinals - fenikz
Chargers - goulda
Chiefs - T-RICH49
Colts - falloutboy14
Cowboys - TheFinisher
Dolphins - gouldo
Eagles - Doccta
Falcons - SimonRath
Giants - OSUGiants17
Jaguars - Unbiased
Jets - fed36
Lions - Me Likey Rookies
Packers - nepsirhcydna
Panthers - OSUGiants17
Patriots - RavenOfProphecy
Raiders - thenewfeature06
Rams - JMAX12
Ravens - GoRavens
Redskins - fed36
Saints- CJSchneider
Seahawks - JMAX12
Steelers - Day One Pick
Texans - Dunta_23
Titans - xpmar9x
Vikings - thefridge15

xpmar9x
02-04-2011, 08:16 AM
The mock draft has started. It's in a seperate thread.

TheFinisher
02-04-2011, 08:31 AM
Cowboys please.

Day One Pick
02-04-2011, 08:37 AM
I'll take the Steelers

MaybeDavis
02-04-2011, 09:17 AM
I would take the 49ers.

thenewfeature06
02-04-2011, 09:22 AM
I will take the Raiders.. but bad timing since we have a 7 rounder going right now.

xpmar9x
02-04-2011, 10:02 AM
I will take the Raiders.. but bad timing since we have a 7 rounder going right now.

did not know that... i guess I didnt really look either. my bad!

SimonRath
02-04-2011, 10:11 AM
Falcons please.

Matthew Jones
02-04-2011, 11:16 AM
I'll rep. the Patriots.

Captain Canuck
02-04-2011, 11:41 AM
I'll take the Bills

DanHawkins
02-04-2011, 12:16 PM
i'll take the Denver Broncos.

Unbiased
02-04-2011, 12:43 PM
Jaguars...

T-RICH49
02-04-2011, 01:14 PM
I'll rep the red and yellow KC baby

thefridge15
02-04-2011, 01:16 PM
I'll take the Vikes.

fed36
02-04-2011, 01:36 PM
I will GM the Skins

fenikz
02-04-2011, 01:52 PM
Cardinals :)

QB John Skelton - Max Hall
RB Tim Hightower - Beanie Wells - LaRod Stephens-Howling
FB Reagan Maui'a - Jason Wright
TE Stephen Spach - Jim Dray - Ben Patrick
WR Larry Fitzgerald - Steve Breaston - Andre Roberts - Early Doucet - Stephen Williams
LT Ben Ijalana - Levi Brown
LG Alan Faneca - Rodney Hudson - Rex Hadnot
C Lyle Sendlein - Rex Hadnot
RG Levi Brown - Deuce Latui
RT Brandon Keith - Levi Brown


UT Darnell Dockett - Alan Branch
NT Dan Williams - Gabe Watson - Bryan Robinson
LDE Calais Campbell - Kenny Iwebema
ROLB Von Miller - Joey Porter
SILB Paris Lennon - Cyril Obiozor
WILB Daryl Washington - Reggie Walker
LOLB Clark Haggans - O'Brien Schofield - Will Davis
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - Mike Adams - A.J. Jefferson
FS Kerry Rhodes - Rashad Johnson
SS Adrian Wilson - Matt Ware - Hamza Abdullah
CB Greg Toler - Marshay Green - Trumaine McBride

OSUGiants17
02-04-2011, 01:59 PM
Giants please

OSUGiants17
02-04-2011, 01:59 PM
Can we make trades?

falloutboy14
02-04-2011, 02:50 PM
I'll take the Colts.

thefridge15
02-04-2011, 03:43 PM
If we wanted to do trades, I would say open up the draft to all rounds or at least more than 3 if everyone is willing. That way you don't just trade all your picks from round 4-7 just to move up and never have any effect in the draft.

Dunta_23
02-04-2011, 04:35 PM
Texans please

xpmar9x
02-04-2011, 04:46 PM
Can we make trades?

no trades.

it'll get to crazy, i'd like to see how the draft will fall with our normal positions. Plus being only 3 rounds... trades will be hard.

However, if you guys want to do more rounds.. we can def do that.

brasho
02-04-2011, 05:56 PM
I'm in and I'm the Bucs!

TheFinisher
02-04-2011, 07:11 PM
no trades.

it'll get to crazy, i'd like to see how the draft will fall with our normal positions. Plus being only 3 rounds... trades will be hard.

However, if you guys want to do more rounds.. we can def do that.

I vote yes to trades and more rounds.

Me Likey Rookies
02-04-2011, 08:28 PM
ill take the Lions

fed36
02-04-2011, 09:36 PM
no trades.

it'll get to crazy, i'd like to see how the draft will fall with our normal positions. Plus being only 3 rounds... trades will be hard.

However, if you guys want to do more rounds.. we can def do that.

I agree with you trades make it too complicated - more rounds would be nice - but it is still early in the mock season - let's see if we can get through three first

GoRavens
02-05-2011, 12:30 AM
ravens ravens ravens

19 and 88
02-05-2011, 02:12 PM
I'll take the Bears

xpmar9x
02-05-2011, 03:00 PM
10 more teams!!!

thenewfeature06
02-05-2011, 03:13 PM
Let us know when we should start doubling up..

MI_Buckeye
02-05-2011, 03:22 PM
I call Bengals. Who Dey!

SimonRath
02-05-2011, 03:25 PM
my money is on the panthers being the last team picked

xpmar9x
02-05-2011, 03:45 PM
Let us know when we should start doubling up..

Will do. I'll probably give it to monday and see where we are then.

CJSchneider
02-05-2011, 04:06 PM
Saints, please.

gouldo
02-05-2011, 04:53 PM
Dolphins please.

If we need to double up, gimme the chargers as well.

Brad

MI_Buckeye
02-05-2011, 08:52 PM
I'll take the Eagles too if nobody claims them.

OSUGiants17
02-06-2011, 01:41 PM
If we need to double give me the Panthers too

fed36
02-06-2011, 10:32 PM
if we need to double up I will take the Jets as well

Docta
02-06-2011, 10:39 PM
I'll take the Eagles.

thenewfeature06
02-07-2011, 09:05 AM
I will take Cleveland toooooooooooooooooo

xpmar9x
02-07-2011, 10:20 AM
The draft is ready, all teams are filled! Couple people are double'd up, but that's alright. Panthers guy, when you make your pick post it here or PM me! You're now on the clock!

T-RICH49
02-07-2011, 10:20 AM
all teams seem to have been filled.when do we start?

thenewfeature06
02-07-2011, 10:23 AM
The draft is ready, all teams are filled! Couple people are double'd up, but that's alright. Panthers guy, when you make your pick post it here! You're now on the clock!

Maybe you should make like a draft pick thread

xpmar9x
02-07-2011, 10:33 AM
all teams seem to have been filled.when do we start?

now.

:)

xpmar9x
02-07-2011, 10:33 AM
Maybe you should make like a draft pick thread

I was thinking that... or whatever team is up can just pm me their pick. And on the 2nd post of this thread I'll have everyones picks

SimonRath
02-07-2011, 10:40 AM
just start a new thread. itll be easier.

xpmar9x
02-07-2011, 10:42 AM
just start a new thread. itll be easier.

Sounds good, starting one rightttttt now.

You think I should keep it in this subforum or move it elsewhere?

SimonRath
02-07-2011, 10:43 AM
Sounds good, starting one rightttttt now.

You think I should keep it in this subforum or move it elsewhere?

here works.

xpmar9x
02-07-2011, 10:54 AM
Alright, new thread is startedddd

OSUGiants17
02-07-2011, 01:46 PM
didnt know we had a seperate thread

xpmar9x
02-07-2011, 01:58 PM
NEW THREAD FOR PICKS:
http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45660

falloutboy14
02-07-2011, 09:03 PM
Are trades allowed? & player trades?

xpmar9x
02-07-2011, 09:07 PM
no trades.

fenikz
02-07-2011, 09:35 PM
lalalalalalalalalala

xpmar9x
02-07-2011, 09:46 PM
lalalalalalalalalala

you're on the clock! :)

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 07:44 AM
Top 10 Picks are done, lets talk about them:

1. Carolina - DaQuan Bowers, DE, Clemson
Good pick, looking for the next "Peppers"

2. Denver - Patrick Peterson, DB, LSU
Great pick, could play CB (replace Champ soon) or FS

3. Buffalo - Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, UNC
Was surprised by this pick, seems to be a reach.

4. Cincinnati - AJ Green, WR, UGA
Replaces TO and eventually Ocho, great pick.

5. Arizona - Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
Solid pick, pure pass rusher.

6. Cleveland - Marcell Dareus, DL, 'Bama
Daerus over Fairley, that surprised me.

7. San Francisco - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
First QB taken, surprised it wasn't Gabbert.

8. Tennessee - Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
Loved that Fairley fell to me! Great pick.

9. Dallas - Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
Cowboys secondary struggled last year, Prince is a huge upgrade.

10. Washington - Julio Jones, WR, 'Bama
Legit receiver to pair up with Moss, but whos throwing the ball to them?

Solid first 10 picks guys!!

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 07:55 AM
im really surprised Fairley fell to #8

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 07:58 AM
im really surprised Fairley fell to #8

So was I, but I'm not arguing...

Captain Canuck
02-08-2011, 08:07 AM
I don't see Quinn as a reach at all (Scott has him in the top 3 and has a 96 ranking by Scouts INC.) After he blows up the Combine he'll solidify his value as a top 5 pick. For me it came down to him, Green, Dareus, or Miller. I really like Miller but I question his size.

MaybeDavis
02-08-2011, 08:22 AM
For me, no suprising Pick so far. I think Dareus is one of the safest picks this year.

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 08:23 AM
So was I, but I'm not arguing...

he could be the next Albert Haynsworth for you guys. lets jus hope his attitude is different.. haha

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 08:58 AM
he could be the next Albert Haynsworth for you guys. lets jus hope his attitude is different.. haha

He's alot like Big-Al...

Big, Dirty, Attitude, and can be lazy.. lol

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 09:12 AM
He's alot like Big-Al...

Big, Dirty, Attitude, and can be lazy.. lol

Albert wasn't a pain till he went to Washington in my opinion. I mean yeah he did have his moments but he wasn't as bad.

Dunta_23
02-08-2011, 09:13 AM
Texans select OLB Aldon Smith, Missouri

Aldon Smith, Brian Cushing, Demeco Ryans, Connor Barwin should be a dominant LB group for years to come

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 09:22 AM
isn't Mario Williams switching to OLB?

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 09:24 AM
Albert wasn't a pain till he went to Washington in my opinion. I mean yeah he did have his moments but he wasn't as bad.

He stomped on Andre Gurode's head in '06.

He's always in trouble with driving stupid.

He wasnt dominate until his 08 season, his contract year.

He had his flaws before the 'Skins, thats for sure.

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 09:25 AM
isn't Mario Williams switching to OLB?

That's what I was thinking... I guess he's big enough to stick with 3-4 DE also though

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 09:33 AM
He stomped on Andre Gurode's head in '06.

He's always in trouble with driving stupid.

He wasnt dominate until his 08 season, his contract year.

He had his flaws before the 'Skins, thats for sure.

sooo forgot about Gurode's head..

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 10:48 AM
This Needs To Go Faster!

Dunta_23
02-08-2011, 11:07 AM
isn't Mario Williams switching to OLB?

Apparently not...Wade Phillips said he wants to use him like he did Bruce Smith...which was at DE

Was really hoping for a CB or DT to drop but it didnt happen.

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 11:11 AM
This Needs To Go Faster!


I AGREE.. ideas?

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 11:14 AM
I AGREE.. ideas?

message the person when its their turn to make a pick

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 11:15 AM
I AGREE.. ideas?

I would just make sure you send a PM to the person who's up (if you're not already doing that) and just wait. It's only 3 rounds.

If you're in a hurry, you could either skip the person and let him pick from the players available when he gets online or just have the board vote. 1st player to get 5 votes is the pick. Something like that.

TheFinisher
02-08-2011, 11:27 AM
There's gotta be a time limit, maybe an hour on the clock and if the pick isn't in by then the board votes.

Otherwise this will take forever.

falloutboy14
02-08-2011, 11:28 AM
Could have people PM you an ordered list of players to select. With Detroit up, STL could give you a list along the lines of "I player X is there, I'll take him. If not, give me player Y."

The next 4-5 teams should be able to narrow their list down so that one of their players listed will be there.

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 11:29 AM
There's gotta be a time limit, maybe an hour on the clock and if the pick isn't in by then the board votes.

Otherwise this will take forever.

thats not fair cause if my pick comes when im at work it'll take me hours till i can choose.

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 11:33 AM
I like the big boards idea. But that means the guy we send our boards to has to be online ALL the time.

TheFinisher
02-08-2011, 11:35 AM
thats not fair cause if my pick comes when im at work it'll take me hours till i can choose.

You're right, I'm thinking straight from a college student POV lol.

TheFinisher
02-08-2011, 11:36 AM
I like the big boards idea. But that means the guy we send our boards to has to be online ALL the time.

Or we could just post our board in this thread so it's public, would that work?

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 11:45 AM
Or we could just post our board in this thread so it's public, would that work?

Logistically, yes, it would work. But not if you're trying to be discreet with your strategy, which I imagine everyone is trying to do.

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 12:12 PM
All right, here's my proposal.

I say we lay out an hourly schedule of picks. You can put the picking times next to the picks in the draft thread. Go noon to midnight. So, for example.

13. Detroit Lions (2/8 12:00PM - 1:00PM)
14. St. Louis Rams (2/8 1:00PM - 2:00PM)

and so on. That way we all know when we'll need to make our picks and can plan for when we need to send big boards in advance. If you can't pick during your allotted time slot, ask who will be online during that time and send that person your big board and he'll make your pick for you. If you do not accomplish this, the next person can make his pick on the hour and whenever you can, you can make your pick (just like in the actually NFL draft, right?).

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 12:13 PM
All right, here's my proposal.

I say we lay out an hourly schedule of picks. You can put the picking times next to the picks in the draft thread. Go noon to midnight. So, for example.

13. Detroit Lions (2/8 12:00PM - 1:00PM)
14. St. Louis Rams (2/8 1:00PM - 2:00PM)

and so on. That way we all know when we'll need to make our picks and can plan for when we need to send big boards in advance. If you can't pick during your allotted time slot, ask who will be online during that time and send that person your big board and he'll make your pick for you. If you do not accomplish this, the next person can make his pick on the hour and whenever you can, you can make your pick (just like in the actually NFL draft, right?).

no, read my statement above about people who have jobs.

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 12:13 PM
no, read my statement above about people who have jobs.

Then you send in your board if you know you can't be available to make your scheduled pick.

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 12:15 PM
plus you don't have to be worried about constantly checking the board about if you're on the clock or not.

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 12:31 PM
I was thinking about this while I was driving to class..

I thought of the big board idea, and that's my favorite.
The time limit causes issues. I work and have class, and im sure most peoplpe are in the same boat. I know for a fact the Rams guy couldnt make the time limit, he's in highschool.

I say we do the big board thing, the next 5 people send me their big boards (top 10). Then ill do the draft picks, then the next 5 send theirs, etc etc

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 12:47 PM
So we go 5 at a time? And when you get the big boards from those 5 posters, you'll post the picks? Is that what you're saying?

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 12:53 PM
So we go 5 at a time? And when you get the big boards from those 5 posters, you'll post the picks? Is that what you're saying?

bingo... hows that sound?

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 12:53 PM
the big board will work, but you should give the person at least a hour to make a pick and if he doesnt then use his big board.

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 12:56 PM
Sounds good, but we'd only need to send in 5 instead of 10, right?

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 12:58 PM
the big board will work, but you should give the person at least a hour to make a pick and if he doesnt then use his big board.

i think he's saying we're doing 100% big board. as if, we never have to make the actually pick. we just send a top 5 board for him when we're coming up.

SimonRath
02-08-2011, 12:59 PM
i think he's saying we're doing 100% big board. as if, we never have to make the actually pick. we just send a top 5 board for him when we're coming up.

i dont like that.. making the pick yourself makes it fun.

thefridge15
02-08-2011, 01:39 PM
On a separate Vikings board, we would all pm our cell #'s to one person who can text us when we're on the clock, if all would be willing to give someone their number here.

TheFinisher
02-08-2011, 02:25 PM
On a separate Vikings board, we would all pm our cell #'s to one person who can text us when we're on the clock, if all would be willing to give someone their number here.

http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/miri/jahn.jpg

I'll take all your cell numbers........

Dunta_23
02-08-2011, 02:29 PM
The best way to do this is try and stick around, but if you know you are going to be away from the board for awhile, PM a list of players to the guy running the draft. Most drafts Ive been in have had a 12 hr limit per pick...This draft is actually flying by.

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 02:45 PM
The best way to do this is try and stick around, but if you know you are going to be away from the board for awhile, PM a list of players to the guy running the draft. Most drafts Ive been in have had a 12 hr limit per pick...This draft is actually flying by.

Great point... This Lions guy has been on the clock since 9:27 am CST.

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 03:03 PM
Alright guys, here's my plan. Let me know what you think... It's a little bit of everything.

*Picks 1-5 have from 10:00am-noon.
*Picks 6-10 have from noon-2 p.m.
*Picks 11-15 have from 2 p.m.-4 p.m.
*Picks 16-20 have from 4 p.m. - 6 p.m.
*Picks 21-25 have from 6 p.m. - 8 p.m.
*Picks 26-32 have from 8 p.m. - 10 p.m.

So atleast you know the time slot your pick should be up. Everyone will pm me their big board prior to there time slot. So if the first pick of that time-slot is not made halfway through i'll go off that posters big board, and everyone else can make their picks. This way we can finish a round per day.

T-RICH49
02-08-2011, 03:04 PM
Alright guys, here's my plan. Let me know what you think... It's a little bit of everything.

*Picks 1-5 have from 10:00am-noon.
*Picks 6-10 have from noon-2 p.m.
*Picks 11-15 have from 2 p.m.-4 p.m.
*Picks 16-20 have from 4 p.m. - 6 p.m.
*Picks 21-25 have from 6 p.m. - 8 p.m.
*Picks 26-32 have from 8 p.m. - 10 p.m.

So atleast you know the time slot your pick should be up. Everyone will pm me their big board prior to there time slot. So if the first pick of that time-slot is not made halfway through i'll go off that posters big board, and everyone else can make their picks. This way we can finish a round per day.

works for me

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 03:35 PM
Alright guys, here's my plan. Let me know what you think... It's a little bit of everything.

*Picks 1-5 have from 10:00am-noon.
*Picks 6-10 have from noon-2 p.m.
*Picks 11-15 have from 2 p.m.-4 p.m.
*Picks 16-20 have from 4 p.m. - 6 p.m.
*Picks 21-25 have from 6 p.m. - 8 p.m.
*Picks 26-32 have from 8 p.m. - 10 p.m.

So atleast you know the time slot your pick should be up. Everyone will pm me their big board prior to there time slot. So if the first pick of that time-slot is not made halfway through i'll go off that posters big board, and everyone else can make their picks. This way we can finish a round per day.

So how do we fit that in where we are right now (13th)?

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 03:42 PM
So how do we fit that in where we are right now (13th)?

I'll wait till 2mrw to see how many picks are in then. Then I'll make a schedule and post it 2mrw around 5:30 AM CST before I leave for work.

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 03:44 PM
sounds good

fed36
02-08-2011, 05:16 PM
I think we should find a new Detroit GM - or put that pick to vote if he does not pick by 8:00 tonight. 11 day time hours is more than enough time for anyone who is seriously wanting to do this to find the time to log in and check the thread

gouldo
02-08-2011, 08:41 PM
Well, because I am on the other side of the world, I will PM the organiser and let him know which player I want....thats if I havent picked before the time limit is up.

When I am asleep, you guys are awake,.,,,

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 08:48 PM
Well, because I am on the other side of the world, I will PM the organiser and let him know which player I want....thats if I havent picked before the time limit is up.

When I am asleep, you guys are awake,.,,,

That's what we all are going to do if we're sleeping, at work, school, etc.

You're up, just so you know, gouldo.

T-RICH49
02-08-2011, 08:51 PM
Dolphins are up

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 09:03 PM
So i've changed my plan for the picks. This draft is going decently fast. Not every poster can check on the site every hour to see if their up, which is understandable. I say we just do this:

Each poster has a maximum of 12 hours to make their selection. The 12 hours starts soon as the pick before them is made. If a pick isn't made after the 12 hours, I'll go off their big board. So if you think you will not be able to make a selection, or just want to be safe pm me your Big Board (of players remaining). If the 12 hours are up, and a pick isn't made we will go BPA, according to DraftCountdowns.com Top 100 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/Rankings/TOP.php) for the rest of that teams picks or another poster can inherit that team, and make the rest of the picks. If you just want me to go off your big board automatically when it's your turn, PM me that with ur board.

So basically, if you miss one pick and don't have you're big board PM'd to me, you're no longer apart of this mock. 12 hours is VERY reasonable. Hopefully it won't come to that late.

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 09:15 PM
Also guys, this upcoming Saturday (the 12th).. I'll be out of town.

I'll be gone from like 6 a.m. CST and won't be home to around 8:00 p.m. CST, anyone want to help me out while I'm gone?

Unbiased
02-08-2011, 09:20 PM
gouldo was online, 2 people informed him he was on the clock and he left.

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 09:24 PM
gouldo was online, 2 people informed him he was on the clock and he left.

Should we just replace him you think?

xpmar9x
02-08-2011, 09:26 PM
Ill double up and take the 'Fins.

Gouldo you can have them back if you want. But since you're "on the other side of the world" you weren't going to make the time frame. You should of PM'd me your list prior. Sorry.

Gouldo, you're also the Chargers. Plz PM me your big board since your time zone is way off from are. .
Edit: Gouldo, I noticed you added your pick to the other forum. No biggie, sense I drafted the player you wanted (great minds think alike). You can have ur 'Fins back. Just pm your list for the Chargers and 2nd round when we get closer to then. Just want to make sure we don't get stuck on waiting for you when your around the world.

gouldo
02-08-2011, 09:46 PM
mate, i am here, just at physio. I am still in....Thanks for picking Ingram, he was gonna be my pick anyways. i have sent you a PM for the Chargers bigboard just in case.

Thanks mate.

Will look at round two soon.

gouldo
02-08-2011, 10:48 PM
Pats & Chargers are done....

Giants up

T-RICH49
02-09-2011, 12:15 AM
I'm heading to bed.if my pick comes up shortly I'll make it in the am

T-RICH49
02-09-2011, 09:35 AM
Bucs are up

T-RICH49
02-09-2011, 12:16 PM
someone pm TB and let him know he was up?

xpmar9x
02-09-2011, 12:26 PM
someone pm TB and let him know he was up?

I have already

CJSchneider
02-09-2011, 01:01 PM
PM me when I (New Orleans) am up.

xpmar9x
02-09-2011, 02:05 PM
Also guys, this upcoming Saturday (the 12th).. I'll be out of town.

I'll be gone from like 6 a.m. CST and won't be home to around 8:00 p.m. CST, anyone want to help me out while I'm gone?

Anyone? Anyone?

thenewfeature06
02-09-2011, 02:13 PM
I mean I can probably help but hopefully if it is just 3 rounds it is finished by then, but I could help.

Wouldn't be sure on how to update the pick thread that you created.

xpmar9x
02-09-2011, 02:15 PM
I mean I can probably help but hopefully if it is just 3 rounds it is finished by then, but I could help.

Wouldn't be sure on how to update the pick thread that you created.

i'd just change my password and PM you it. You could edit it then.

gouldo
02-09-2011, 09:38 PM
Seattle is up.....

This draft looks pretty good. One or two shocks, but otherwise nice.

Good work guys...and girls!

xpmar9x
02-09-2011, 09:43 PM
Balti is up now...

SimonRath
02-10-2011, 02:49 PM
ill be at work till around 9 so if my pick (falcons) comes up ill make my pick then.

xpmar9x
02-10-2011, 02:56 PM
ill be at work till around 9 so if my pick (falcons) comes up ill make my pick then.

ur up nowww

fed36
02-10-2011, 03:14 PM
ur up nowww

You should post Baltimore's pick on the thread so that it looks like there is a new post to the thread. I did not notice that you had put it on the first page either...and I am guessing either did Simon Roth

Captain Canuck
02-10-2011, 03:34 PM
I think we should have given the Baltimore some more time to pick. The message board wasn't working properly last night and this morning, so he probably couldn't get on to make his pick.

Unbiased
02-10-2011, 05:30 PM
I think we should have given the Baltimore some more time to pick. The message board wasn't working properly last night and this morning, so he probably couldn't get on to make his pick.

I think Baltimore sent in a big board which is why xmar just updated the first post in the draft thread instead of "announcing" the pick.

SimonRath
02-10-2011, 10:42 PM
COME ONNNN!!! im waiting..

fenikz
02-11-2011, 02:24 PM
no offense this is never going to finish if you don't start enforcing some sort of clock, even if its like 3 hours, if a person can't bother to send in a BB or check in within that much time they don't deserve to pick

heck even set up time slots

Chicago 10-1:59
NYJ 2-5:59
etc

fed36
02-11-2011, 02:26 PM
no offense this is never going to finish if you don't start enforcing some sort of clock, even if its like 3 hours, if a person can't bother to send in a BB or check in within that much time they don't deserve to pick

heck even set up time slots

Chicago 10-1:59
NYJ 2-5:59
etc

no offense but we do have clock - we decided upon 12 hours - and this mock has been going faster than anyone I have ever participated in this site

Dunta_23
02-11-2011, 02:27 PM
no offense but we do have clock - we decided upon 12 hours - and this mock has been going faster than anyone I have ever participated in this site

Agreed...Moving along fine...3 round mocks take time

fenikz
02-11-2011, 02:46 PM
68 picks remaining at 12 hours a piece = 34 days

just as an example in the mock i just ran it took us 7 days to finish the 3 rounds and 11 days to finish 5 rounds

fed36
02-11-2011, 02:53 PM
68 picks remaining at 12 hours a piece = 34 days

just as an example in the mock i just ran it took us 7 days to finish the 3 rounds and 11 days to finish 5 rounds


yes and how many non-participants came onto your mock and told you how you should run that one...if you don't like - dont look at it

fenikz
02-11-2011, 02:57 PM
none it ran very smoothly

btw im in this mock, took me a whole 2 minutes to make my pick 5 days ago

theres no trades allowed, everyone knows when they are picking, not hard to send in a BB or to make a pick, just shouldn't take this long

fed36
02-11-2011, 03:01 PM
none it ran very smoothly

btw im in this mock, took me a whole 2 minutes to make my pick 5 days ago

theres no trades allowed, everyone knows when they are picking, not hard to send in a BB or to make a pick, just shouldn't take this long

So sorry we are not living up to your entertainment status - like I said before - if you don't like it - there is no need for you to view it

fenikz
02-11-2011, 03:01 PM
you just gonna tell me when im up then?

fed36
02-11-2011, 03:03 PM
sorry i did not realize you were in it - so your feedback is more valid than a random viewer - for that i apologize....but as i said before this mock has been going faster than any other mock i have participated on this site before - so I am fine with our status so far....and yes the guy who created this thread is PMing everyone when it is their turn to go....plus a big part of the delay recently was due to the site having technical difficulites for about a half of a day

xpmar9x
02-11-2011, 04:00 PM
Yeah I'm PM'n everyone when it's there turn.. people just need to check it a little more and it'll go faster.

xpmar9x
02-11-2011, 04:02 PM
I think I'll take over the Bears... they guy hasn't be on since the 5th and has 2 posts.. I doubt he'll be checking back soon

Captain Canuck
02-11-2011, 04:05 PM
With the weekend coming up people should have more time to check in.

xpmar9x
02-11-2011, 04:29 PM
hey fed ur up.


Ill be gone on Saturday, pretty much all day. Out of town. So I won't be able to update it. Just go on with the next pick if u up and i'll update it when I get back.

fed36
02-11-2011, 04:57 PM
jets pick has been made - pittsburgh is on the clock

TheFinisher
02-11-2011, 05:41 PM
moving along nicely the last few picks.

FYI the guy who's doing the Packers(nepsirhcydna) doesn't have an account when you search the members list, soooooo idk what's up with that.

fed36
02-11-2011, 06:46 PM
moving along nicely the last few picks.

FYI the guy who's doing the Packers(nepsirhcydna) doesn't have an account when you search the members list, soooooo idk what's up with that.

i just went and searched the beginning of this thread - and i don't see his name nor do i see anyone who claimed the pack....xmpar9x did this guy pm you that he would take the pack?

xpmar9x
02-11-2011, 08:39 PM
he's my friend.. no worries.

fenikz
02-11-2011, 09:14 PM
your friend is slacking

xpmar9x
02-11-2011, 10:46 PM
your friend is slacking

well it's friday night.. not gunna stay home all night and wait for the draft :P

FYI guys i'll be gone all 02/12/2011 (sorry). I'll update it late that night when I get home for all the picks that were made while I was gone.

fed36
02-12-2011, 09:37 AM
while the guy who is running this thread is gone today - we all should PM the person who is up after we have made our pick.

TheFinisher
02-12-2011, 09:41 AM
the order of the 2nd round is all messed up.

MaybeDavis
02-12-2011, 09:46 AM
Buffalo is on the Clock...

TheFinisher
02-12-2011, 09:48 AM
Buffalo is on the Clock...

It should be Denver

fed36
02-12-2011, 09:57 AM
It should be Denver


No that is correct - buffalo not Denver has the 34th pick overall

TheFinisher
02-12-2011, 10:03 AM
No that is correct - buffalo not Denver has the 34th pick overall

The order doesn't stay the same after the 1st round? My mistake then.

Captain Canuck
02-12-2011, 05:01 PM
Surprised the next pick hasn't been made yet. Cinci is on the clock.

CJSchneider
02-12-2011, 07:44 PM
CLEAR!!!!!!

http://virtuallyshocking.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/CepBasicsPresentation.004-001.png

fenikz
02-12-2011, 07:45 PM
http://whovotedhow.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/flatline.jpg

SimonRath
02-12-2011, 10:16 PM
yeah this is fading real quick.

MaybeDavis
02-13-2011, 06:49 AM
What's going on??? Cincy is on the clock. 12 hours are over now for a long time....

TheFinisher
02-13-2011, 07:03 AM
let's just vote for the pick, first to 3

rahim moore

fenikz
02-13-2011, 04:10 PM
rahim moore seems too perfect just put it up

T-RICH49
02-13-2011, 04:47 PM
yeah Moore

TheFinisher
02-13-2011, 05:54 PM
there's no reason for only having 3 picks done the past 2 days. A couple teams and a lack of enforcing a time limit are making this go way slower than it should.

If posters can't check in every few hours to make their pick, especially over the weekend, then they shouldn't have signed up.

SimonRath
02-13-2011, 05:55 PM
there's no reason for only having 3 picks done the past 2 days. A couple teams and a lack of enforcing a time limit are making this go way slower than it should.

this is pathetic beyond belief.

TheFinisher
02-13-2011, 05:58 PM
this is pathetic beyond belief.

the weekend is where we should be getting the bulk of it done. At this rate we'll be finishing around Easter.

SimonRath
02-13-2011, 06:00 PM
the weekend is where we should be getting the bulk of it done. At this rate we'll be finishing around Easter.

by the time I get my next pick all of next season will be over so i'll know who will do good and who will bust :)

fenikz
02-13-2011, 07:21 PM
i feel like time slots would still be the best solution

Unbiased
02-13-2011, 08:42 PM
i feel like time slots would still be the best solution

I suggested that but people weren't having it.

MaybeDavis
02-14-2011, 07:27 AM
What da .... ??? The last pick was 2 days ago.... I maybe think a little to "german" but if this site was in Germany this mock s done on 1 Day ;).
Just joking, hope its going on soon.

thenewfeature06
02-14-2011, 01:31 PM
Jake Lockerrrr looks to be the early steal in this draft.

I was considering taking him in the 2nd for da Browns but went with Wilson who is probably another first round talent.

xpmar9x
02-14-2011, 01:33 PM
I just got him

fenikz
02-14-2011, 01:42 PM
Locker is a 2nd round value wouldn't surprise me to see him drop to the middle of the round and then have someone trade up for him

actually wouldn't surprise me at all to see Ponder go ahead of Locker

fed36
02-14-2011, 01:46 PM
was hoping to sang locker for the skins - but he did not fall that far ...had to settle for ponder. houston is up

thenewfeature06
02-14-2011, 01:48 PM
I mean I still think if he went to the right situation, (Minnesota) he could start from day 1.

Now Buffalo/Tennessee not sure.

fenikz
02-14-2011, 01:58 PM
for a 4 year starter he is still a pretty huge project, I wouldn't want him playing any time in year one and likely chance that he wouldn't even be ready in year 2. While a guy like Ponder is more limited to certain schemes but I would trust him running my offense during the 1st year if needed

xpmar9x
02-14-2011, 02:03 PM
I was thinking about Ponder and Wisniewski over Locker.. but went with Locker.

I really wanted Martez Wilson.

thenewfeature06
02-14-2011, 02:11 PM
Locker was talked about being #1 overall pick last year I think..

Of course when you go back to school you will get looked at harder.

Captain Canuck
02-14-2011, 02:20 PM
My pick for the Bills came down to Wilkerson or Martez Wilson. I thought Wilkerson was the slightly better value though.

fenikz
02-14-2011, 03:15 PM
I like my draft so far, I really don't see the Cardinals drafting a QB, 100% positive we will be going after a Vet. LB is the most important position in any LeBeau style scheme so I think Miller is the most likely pick in the 1st, Patrick Peterson is probably the only player we have higher on our board. In the 2nd I could of either reached on a corner or take potential franchise LT whose floor is just being a solid OG. Plus there is probably going to be alot of value for CB & TE in the 3rd

Dunta_23
02-14-2011, 06:25 PM
The Texans are glad to get 2 players to fit into their new 3-4 system. Secondary/Nose tackle were definately needs, but a 3-4 DE like Heyward was too good to pass up.

MaybeDavis
02-15-2011, 08:50 AM
The Texans are glad to get 2 players to fit into their new 3-4 system. Secondary/Nose tackle were definately needs, but a 3-4 DE like Heyward was too good to pass up.

I really hoped Heyward fall to me. But with Baldwin I'm very happy too.

SimonRath
02-15-2011, 10:01 AM
I really like Baldwin to the 49ers.

xpmar9x
02-15-2011, 10:14 AM
I really like Baldwin to the 49ers.

Solid pick, Rams woulda loved him..

SimonRath
02-15-2011, 10:17 AM
Solid pick, Rams woulda loved him..

there are still a boat load of solid WR's available.

gouldo
02-16-2011, 05:35 AM
Come on guys, shake it up. Start making your picks again.

how about round 3 be a max of 6 hours between picks.

gouldo
02-16-2011, 07:01 PM
Atlanta & New England are up with the next two picks.

Unbiased
02-17-2011, 12:01 AM
GoRavens: I think the idea for the Falcons' GM is to get Matt Ryan weapons which makes sense. Posting commentary in the draft pick thread, however, doesn't make sense.

SimonRath
02-17-2011, 11:26 AM
damn, if I was an ATL fan I'd be pissed.
Torrey Smith in the 1st is silly with Cannon and Jimmy Smith still on the board.
Titans are having an A+ draft so far

oh hey thanks for not knowing anything about what the falcons need.
You want us to draft a CB in the 1st when we already have 2 legit starting CB's in Dunta and Grimes? We need a nickle back and theres no reason to waste a 1st rounder on one when we can get one in the later rounds. We have no receiving threats outside of Roddy White and so teams can easily just shift the coverage over his way and take him slightly out of the game. Torrey will give us a legit threat on the other side of Roddy and Rudolph can be a threat up the middle which Gonzalez used to be but isnt quite it anymore.

okay. im done..

Unbiased
02-17-2011, 11:39 AM
And where would Marcus Cannon play? Backup guard?

brasho
02-17-2011, 12:19 PM
I like my draft so far, I really don't see the Cardinals drafting a QB, 100% positive we will be going after a Vet. LB is the most important position in any LeBeau style scheme so I think Miller is the most likely pick in the 1st, Patrick Peterson is probably the only player we have higher on our board. In the 2nd I could of either reached on a corner or take potential franchise LT whose floor is just being a solid OG. Plus there is probably going to be alot of value for CB & TE in the 3rd

If you're 100% positive they'll be going after a vet QB, you had better hope that the lockout ends quickly... otherwise getting a vet signed and acclimated to the offense will be very difficult when free agency and trading opens in August or whenever the lockout ends.

brasho
02-17-2011, 12:20 PM
And where would Marcus Cannon play? Backup guard?

Falcons have two unrestricted free agents at OG and they could certainly upgrade at RT.

Unbiased
02-17-2011, 12:22 PM
Falcons have two unrestricted free agents at OG and they could certainly upgrade at RT.

Do you forget that the GM is a poster? Why would he not resign them? Why was Clabo a replacement at the Pro Bowl?

brasho
02-17-2011, 02:45 PM
Tyson Clabo making the Pro Bowl had a whole lot more to do with Matt Ryan and Michael Turner than it did Clabo. Clabo is going on 30 and he is a slightly above average RT. LT Sam Baker can certainly be upgraded as well. Just because a guy is a replacement at the Pro Bowl, that doesn't make him a good player. Pro Bowls for OL are based solely on fan voting and reputation, two things that have nothing to do with how well that player actually plays the game.

fenikz
02-17-2011, 02:52 PM
If you're 100% positive they'll be going after a vet QB, you had better hope that the lockout ends quickly... otherwise getting a vet signed and acclimated to the offense will be very difficult when free agency and trading opens in August or whenever the lockout ends.

if it enters a lockout dont even worry about the NFL coming back this year

SimonRath
02-17-2011, 02:58 PM
Tyson Clabo making the Pro Bowl had a whole lot more to do with Matt Ryan and Michael Turner than it did Clabo. Clabo is going on 30 and he is a slightly above average RT. LT Sam Baker can certainly be upgraded as well. Just because a guy is a replacement at the Pro Bowl, that doesn't make him a good player. Pro Bowls for OL are based solely on fan voting and reputation, two things that have nothing to do with how well that player actually plays the game.

sooo, basically what you are saying is that the majority of O-line men who get selected to the pro bowl are not worthy because the fans just voted for the most popular ones? if thats so, then how was Clabo selected because I can almost guarantee the majority of fans didnt even know Clabo existed.. To say Clabo is worth resigning is just dumb. He was one of our most solid linemen this year and deff worth keeping around for a few years more. We can draft RT to be and just let him learn and develop behind Clabo, I have nothing wrong with that idea.

brasho
02-17-2011, 06:07 PM
sooo, basically what you are saying is that the majority of O-line men who get selected to the pro bowl are not worthy because the fans just voted for the most popular ones? if thats so, then how was Clabo selected because I can almost guarantee the majority of fans didnt even know Clabo existed.. To say Clabo is worth resigning is just dumb. He was one of our most solid linemen this year and deff worth keeping around for a few years more. We can draft RT to be and just let him learn and develop behind Clabo, I have nothing wrong with that idea.

Yeah, I've known Clabo has existed, he's a decent OT, nothing special. He doesn't give up a lot of sacks, but the Falcons RBs are among the best in pass protection (particularly Snelling) and considering Turner pass blocks most of the time he's in the game when the ball is thrown, he is also very adept at helping protect Ryan. The Falcons as a whole protect fairly well, but a lot of their clean pocket can be attributed to the fact that they are so committed to the running game and Ryan and White have impeccable timing. Despite the fact that the Falcons have very good RBs, the Falcons' YPC were among the worst in the league at 3.8 and it is only logic that the Falcons will want to run the ball much better in 2011.

As for your pro bowl argument, off the top of my head I can recall former Buccaneer OC Tony Mayberry playing in a Pro Bowl game... and then not getting a contract offered to him by ANY NFL team the very next season. It's happened numerous times in the past. An average or slightly above average player often gets put in the Pro Bowl because they play for one of the league's better or more popular teams. In this case, Clabo plays for the #1 seeded 13-3 Falcons and he is a slightly above average player that got into the Pro Bowl because of his team, not because he is outstanding. He can be replaced and the Falcons would readily do that if they thought they could find a decent upgrade.

And what are you complaining to me for, I defended your decision to take Cannon, especially with the FA's and lack of great talent on the OL. Do you really think Baker and Clabo can't be upgraded? There were times in the Packer-Falcon playoff game that the Packer defenders were running through turnstiles.

BTW, as for the Falcons CBs being set. You're right, but not because Dunta Robinson is great or even good. It's because the Falcons overpaid for an extremely overrated player who clearly is not the same player that he was pre-injury and they can't afford to admit their mistake, yet. Grimes on the other hand, is a very pesky little CB that probably has his best football ahead of him. He is the one exceptional player in the Falcon secondary.

Unbiased
02-17-2011, 07:55 PM
Yeah, I've known Clabo has existed, he's a decent OT, nothing special. He doesn't give up a lot of sacks, but the Falcons RBs are among the best in pass protection (particularly Snelling) and considering Turner pass blocks most of the time he's in the game when the ball is thrown, he is also very adept at helping protect Ryan. The Falcons as a whole protect fairly well, but a lot of their clean pocket can be attributed to the fact that they are so committed to the running game and Ryan and White have impeccable timing. Despite the fact that the Falcons have very good RBs, the Falcons' YPC were among the worst in the league at 3.8 and it is only logic that the Falcons will want to run the ball much better in 2011.

As for your pro bowl argument, off the top of my head I can recall former Buccaneer OC Tony Mayberry playing in a Pro Bowl game... and then not getting a contract offered to him by ANY NFL team the very next season. It's happened numerous times in the past. An average or slightly above average player often gets put in the Pro Bowl because they play for one of the league's better or more popular teams. In this case, Clabo plays for the #1 seeded 13-3 Falcons and he is a slightly above average player that got into the Pro Bowl because of his team, not because he is outstanding. He can be replaced and the Falcons would readily do that if they thought they could find a decent upgrade.

And what are you complaining to me for, I defended your decision to take Cannon, especially with the FA's and lack of great talent on the OL. Do you really think Baker and Clabo can't be upgraded? There were times in the Packer-Falcon playoff game that the Packer defenders were running through turnstiles.

BTW, as for the Falcons CBs being set. You're right, but not because Dunta Robinson is great or even good. It's because the Falcons overpaid for an extremely overrated player who clearly is not the same player that he was pre-injury and they can't afford to admit their mistake, yet. Grimes on the other hand, is a very pesky little CB that probably has his best football ahead of him. He is the one exceptional player in the Falcon secondary.

He didn't take Cannon, right? I stood up for the Falcons fan for not taking Cannon.

SimonRath
02-17-2011, 08:53 PM
And what are you complaining to me for, I defended your decision to take Cannon, especially with the FA's and lack of great talent on the OL. Do you really think Baker and Clabo can't be upgraded? There were times in the Packer-Falcon playoff game that the Packer defenders were running through turnstiles.

BTW, as for the Falcons CBs being set. You're right, but not because Dunta Robinson is great or even good. It's because the Falcons overpaid for an extremely overrated player who clearly is not the same player that he was pre-injury and they can't afford to admit their mistake, yet. Grimes on the other hand, is a very pesky little CB that probably has his best football ahead of him. He is the one exceptional player in the Falcon secondary.

yeah i didnt pick Cannon.. so idk what you are talking about.

and Dunta Robinson isnt extremely overrated. Is he worth the contract he got? no way, but hes still a very good CB. If i remember correctly our D is very different from the Texans D so he wasnt completely comfortable this season, i expect him to go to his old form next season.

Matthew Jones
02-17-2011, 09:45 PM
Patriots draft thus far:

1. DE Cameron Jordan, California
1. OG Mike Pouncey, Florida
2. OT Tyron Smith, Southern California*
2. LB Brooks Reed, Arizona

SimonRath
02-17-2011, 09:49 PM
Patriots draft thus far:

1. DE Cameron Jordan, California
1. OG Mike Pouncey, Florida
2. OT Tyron Smith, Southern California*
2. LB Brooks Reed, Arizona

amazing! (10char)

brasho
02-18-2011, 05:19 AM
yeah i didnt pick Cannon.. so idk what you are talking about.

and Dunta Robinson isnt extremely overrated. Is he worth the contract he got? no way, but hes still a very good CB. If i remember correctly our D is very different from the Texans D so he wasnt completely comfortable this season, i expect him to go to his old form next season.

Ok, I misread that, I apologize. But Robinson is definitely overrated. Playing CB isn't something that you have to have a comfort level to do. You're either playing man or zone. The Texans lets him go for a reason and he was so bad his first season back from injury that the Texans and their fans didn't care if he went someplace else...and considering how bad their secondary is/was, that is really saying something. His knee injury was so bad that there were concerns that he would never walk again, let alone play football. He no longer has elite speed or quickness and it this point is a tough little zone and short area CB without ball skills. Even before his injury his ball skills were lacking, now after the injury he's got 1 INT in the two seasons since. (and it's not like teams don't throw in his current or former divisions so he's had plenty of opportunities). You don't think he's overrated? So what are the Falcons paying him $57 mil for? ONe measly INT and being the 2nd best CB behind Grimes?

You know, I'm all for you defending your team. But as a realistic person, you have to know your team has many weaknesses and be readily able to admit them. You can't honestly say that you look at the Falcons roster and see the $57 million dollar man manning 1 CB spot and a pass rush that centers around a soon-to-be 33 year old DE for a defense that finished middle of the pack and feel all warm and fuzzy inside, can you? Your team has weaknesses and they were more than exposed by the Packers in the playoffs.

SimonRath
02-18-2011, 07:32 AM
Ok, I misread that, I apologize. But Robinson is definitely overrated. Playing CB isn't something that you have to have a comfort level to do. You're either playing man or zone. The Texans lets him go for a reason and he was so bad his first season back from injury that the Texans and their fans didn't care if he went someplace else...and considering how bad their secondary is/was, that is really saying something. His knee injury was so bad that there were concerns that he would never walk again, let alone play football. He no longer has elite speed or quickness and it this point is a tough little zone and short area CB without ball skills. Even before his injury his ball skills were lacking, now after the injury he's got 1 INT in the two seasons since. (and it's not like teams don't throw in his current or former divisions so he's had plenty of opportunities). You don't think he's overrated? So what are the Falcons paying him $57 mil for? ONe measly INT and being the 2nd best CB behind Grimes?

You know, I'm all for you defending your team. But as a realistic person, you have to know your team has many weaknesses and be readily able to admit them. You can't honestly say that you look at the Falcons roster and see the $57 million dollar man manning 1 CB spot and a pass rush that centers around a soon-to-be 33 year old DE for a defense that finished middle of the pack and feel all warm and fuzzy inside, can you? Your team has weaknesses and they were more than exposed by the Packers in the playoffs.


I thought the world was over saying INTS make a good CB?..
in 2009 Jarius Bird and Zack Bowman were in the top 5 in INTS. Does that mean they are great?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/14246/measuring-dunta-robinsons-impact
When the Atlanta Falcons signed cornerback Dunta Robinson to a six-year contract worth about $57 million during the offseason a lot of eyebrows around the league were raised.

The logic from a lot of people was that Robinson wasnít worth huge money because heís not a true shutdown corner. But the Falcons think a little differently than most teams. Letís just say that Atlanta general manager Thomas Dimitroff and coach Mike Smith donít really believe there is such a thing as a true shutdown corner and, after hearing their logic, I think theyíve got a valid point.

Atlanta's defense has played much better this season with Dunta Robinson in the fold.
The reasons they signed Robinson went a lot deeper than just signing a good cornerback. Yes, they wanted a No. 1 cornerback and Robinson, at the very least, fits that profile. Thatís allowed guys like Brent Grimes and Christopher Owens to be second or third corners, which is what they are. But reflecting even deeper on what Dimitroff and Smith have said about the signing of Robinson, a big part of their logic was that his presence would make the entire defense better.

The Falcons took a lot of criticism for not really doing anything dramatic to improve their pass rush. But they believed guys like John Abraham and Kroy Biermann were close to getting a lot more sacks last year and better coverage in the secondary would allow them to be more productive. The results have been there as Atlanta suddenly has developed a solid pass rush.

Robinson has yet to produce his first interception, but letís not go saying the Falcons overpaid for him or that heís a bust. Thatís far from the truth. Thanks to ESPN Stats & Information, weíve got some very concrete and very positive evidence about how much impact Robinson has had on Atlantaís defense.

The Falcons lead the league in interceptions with 10. They also lead the league in interceptions on the left side of the field with six. Thatís as many as the Falcons had on that side of the field all last season.

In fact, Atlantaís pass defense on the left side of the field has improved dramatically since last year. In 2009, opponents averaged 7.8 yards per attempt on pass plays to the left side of the field and opposing quarterbacks compiled an 85.8 passer rating. This season, the Falcons are allowing only 6.2 yards per attempt on passes to the left side and opposing quarterbacks have a 58.8 passer rating.

Unbiased
02-18-2011, 03:19 PM
Your team has weaknesses and they were more than exposed by the Packers in the playoffs.

Wow, you're lighting the world on fire with that sentence.

brasho
02-18-2011, 03:22 PM
I thought the world was over saying INTS make a good CB?..
in 2009 Jarius Bird and Zack Bowman were in the top 5 in INTS. Does that mean they are great?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/14246/measuring-dunta-robinsons-impact

Well considering that he was being picked on in Houston non-stop and was freqently targeted this season over Brent Grimes, he does little to dissuade teams from wanting to throw at him.

Did I ever say having INTs made a great CB? Absolutely not... but teams aren't scared in the least bit at throwing at him and he's powerless to stop them. I remember watching him play two years ago against the Colts and Peyton Manning successfully targeted him 5 out of 7 throws on a TD drive, including 3 in a row. He doesn't defense passes, he doesn't intercept balls, if you want to believe a fluff piece written by Yaskinkas who doesn't say anything negative about any of teams except for Carolina, then go ahead. Next time I suggest watching the games to form your own opinions instead of relying on what somebody else wrote to get your opinion.

Robinson is extremely overrated. As for his affect on the entire defense, the Falcons' opposing passer rating was middle of the pack but their opponents' 65.0% completion percentage was among the worse in the league. (to put that in perspective, the two best CBs teams gave up a 50.7 and 53.0% completion rate). To compare Atlanta's pass defense from one year to the next, it did improve a little, but a large part of that has to be due to the health of Abraham and the emergence of Grimes.

brasho
02-18-2011, 03:23 PM
Wow, you're lighting the world on fire with that sentence.

I think you're missing the point, there tiger. I'm not the one in denial about my team's weaknesses.

SimonRath
02-19-2011, 12:04 AM
Well considering that he was being picked on in Houston non-stop and was freqently targeted this season over Brent Grimes, he does little to dissuade teams from wanting to throw at him.

Did I ever say having INTs made a great CB? Absolutely not... but teams aren't scared in the least bit at throwing at him and he's powerless to stop them. I remember watching him play two years ago against the Colts and Peyton Manning successfully targeted him 5 out of 7 throws on a TD drive, including 3 in a row. He doesn't defense passes, he doesn't intercept balls, if you want to believe a fluff piece written by Yaskinkas who doesn't say anything negative about any of teams except for Carolina, then go ahead. Next time I suggest watching the games to form your own opinions instead of relying on what somebody else wrote to get your opinion.

Robinson is extremely overrated. As for his affect on the entire defense, the Falcons' opposing passer rating was middle of the pack but their opponents' 65.0% completion percentage was among the worse in the league. (to put that in perspective, the two best CBs teams gave up a 50.7 and 53.0% completion rate). To compare Atlanta's pass defense from one year to the next, it did improve a little, but a large part of that has to be due to the health of Abraham and the emergence of Grimes.

iiiii am officially drunk. so i will come up with a counter argument in th emorning. sorry!

fenikz
02-19-2011, 03:47 AM
jurrell casey to car?

MaybeDavis
02-19-2011, 06:45 AM
good for me...

brasho
02-19-2011, 07:14 AM
iiiii am officially drunk. so i will come up with a counter argument in th emorning. sorry!

Sounds like a wise decision.

BTW, the writer from the NFC South blog you posted believes the Falcons could go LT in the draft:

Do the Falcons draft a DE or pick one in FA? Would that be more of a need than LT or WR? Or is Thomas D. Picking best available in the draft for his scheme?

Pat Yasinskas (1:02 PM)


I think DE is biggest need. But you can't lock onto one position when you're picking late in the first round. I think LT and WR are at least options.]

For the record, I think your pick of Torrey Smith is a good one, but you can't rule out help along the O-Line either... though like Yasinkas said above, another DE would be a great move... assuming there is still a really good one available that late into round 1.

SimonRath
02-19-2011, 08:46 AM
Sounds like a wise decision.

BTW, the writer from the NFC South blog you posted believes the Falcons could go LT in the draft:

Do the Falcons draft a DE or pick one in FA? Would that be more of a need than LT or WR? Or is Thomas D. Picking best available in the draft for his scheme?

Pat Yasinskas (1:02 PM)


I think DE is biggest need. But you can't lock onto one position when you're picking late in the first round. I think LT and WR are at least options.]

For the record, I think your pick of Torrey Smith is a good one, but you can't rule out help along the O-Line either... though like Yasinkas said above, another DE would be a great move... assuming there is still a really good one available that late into round 1.

I would have liked to get a DE in the 1st round but I really didnt like any available ones.. Cameron Heyward looks like a 3-4 DE to me, Allen Bailey isnt what I want, Adrian Clayborn is really the only DE I would get 1st round in this situation. I just though Torrey Smith was better value and a safer pick in this situation.

I wanna get Matt Ryan as many weapons as I can so he has no excuses to why he cant win it all. I personally feel that our O-line is good enough to win with, we just need more weapons.

brasho
02-19-2011, 11:45 AM
I would have liked to get a DE in the 1st round but I really didnt like any available ones.. Cameron Heyward looks like a 3-4 DE to me, Allen Bailey isnt what I want, Adrian Clayborn is really the only DE I would get 1st round in this situation. I just though Torrey Smith was better value and a safer pick in this situation.

I wanna get Matt Ryan as many weapons as I can so he has no excuses to why he cant win it all. I personally feel that our O-line is good enough to win with, we just need more weapons.

I don't disagree with your decision. I likely would have picked the same player or Titus Young if I were picking for the Falcons. I agree that Heyward is more a 5-tech and even as a 4-3 base DE he will never be a great pass rusher (I liken him to a slightly less athletic Jamal Anderson-and you guys already have that), I don't care for Adrian Clayborn, Allen Bailey is a 2nd round project, the only guy I would have remotely considered at DE would ahve been reaches (Ballard and Reed). That being said, I wouldn't have blamed you for taking an OT as I am not nearly as sold on your OTs as you are.

SimonRath
02-19-2011, 11:51 AM
I don't disagree with your decision. I likely would have picked the same player or Titus Young if I were picking for the Falcons. I agree that Heyward is more a 5-tech and even as a 4-3 base DE he will never be a great pass rusher (I liken him to a slightly less athletic Jamal Anderson-and you guys already have that), I don't care for Adrian Clayborn, Allen Bailey is a 2nd round project, the only guy I would have remotely considered at DE would ahve been reaches (Ballard and Reed). That being said, I wouldn't have blamed you for taking an OT as I am not nearly as sold on your OTs as you are.

I woulda picked a OT way before i woulda picked a DE, i'll give you that much. I thought hard about Tyron Smith and if Gabe Carimi fell to my pick I probably would have thought long and hard over him too.

brasho
02-19-2011, 12:13 PM
I woulda picked a OT way before i woulda picked a DE, i'll give you that much. I thought hard about Tyron Smith and if Gabe Carimi fell to my pick I probably would have thought long and hard over him too.

I would have taken Carimi. My question to you is this, if the Falcons were to take a LT or even just an OT in general... who would lose his spot? Clabo or Baker? I didn't like Baker at all coming out of college with his short arms and not-so-great athleticism but he has been better than I expected. Clabo is above-average at RT... so who loses his spot? Would Baker be a better RT than Clabo? He's more athletic but not nearly as physical. Could Clabo kick inside to OG? Personally, I feel that Blalock is a bull at LG and should be the top priority OG to sign. So if Carimi came aboard... or even Smith or Cannon, who loses his job?

TheFinisher
02-19-2011, 12:17 PM
can we move this thing along? Carolina's had over 24 hrs to make a pick.

OSUGiants17
02-19-2011, 12:25 PM
all ya gotta do is let me know when im otc and I will pick, its not that hard to pm the person who picks after you and tell them to pick. Everyone chill out...we are in the last round and almost done if you're getting this upset over a forum mock you need to grow up.

SimonRath
02-19-2011, 12:27 PM
I would have taken Carimi. My question to you is this, if the Falcons were to take a LT or even just an OT in general... who would lose his spot? Clabo or Baker? I didn't like Baker at all coming out of college with his short arms and not-so-great athleticism but he has been better than I expected. Clabo is above-average at RT... so who loses his spot? Would Baker be a better RT than Clabo? He's more athletic but not nearly as physical. Could Clabo kick inside to OG? Personally, I feel that Blalock is a bull at LG and should be the top priority OG to sign. So if Carimi came aboard... or even Smith or Cannon, who loses his job?

I'd let Carimi play LT then let Clabo and Baker battle it out at RT. Deff keep Blalock and Dahl at the Guards.

fed36
02-19-2011, 02:34 PM
all ya gotta do is let me know when im otc and I will pick, its not that hard to pm the person who picks after you and tell them to pick. Everyone chill out...we are in the last round and almost done if you're getting this upset over a forum mock you need to grow up.

Agreed...well said

Unbiased
02-19-2011, 03:40 PM
Stop posting comments in the draft thread.

SimonRath
02-19-2011, 10:04 PM
wow people,
A. stop bitching about how long its taking, were making good time now. Its not like were being paid to do a mock and finish it in a certain time.
B. STOP POSTING COMMENTS IN THE MOCK DRAFT THREAD. its soo simple..

gouldo
02-20-2011, 01:45 AM
Denver on the clock......just in case they didnt know.....

fenikz
02-20-2011, 02:43 AM
as long as we eventually get to my pick it can die as quick as i make it

fenikz
02-20-2011, 05:57 PM
Panthers took Jerrel Jernigan, WR, Troy

followed by Bengals taking John Moffitt, G, Wisconsin

so Kendricks to the Broncos is what you mean I'm guessing, btw if you can't run it tell us so we can either just stop caring or find someone else who wants to

xpmar9x
02-20-2011, 06:07 PM
Would you guys quit crying about it taking toooo long! Its a freaking forum mock draft, who cares if it takes a couple weeks - are we under some type of time constraint. Its for fun! I type the wrong thing in and suddenly I dont want to run it? And I wasn't able to update it on Saturday... its FREAKING Saturday! Go out and do something besides sitting on your computer all day on a forum.

http://www.ryanbyrd.net/newramble/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/smiley-face-thumb.jpg

fenikz
02-20-2011, 06:36 PM
if you could even enforce a 12 hour clock it would be fine but we are averaging a pick like every 3 days, i know im coming off like a dick but everyone is thinking it and those who arent have been on the clock for 4 days

fed36
02-20-2011, 06:37 PM
Would you guys quit crying about it taking toooo long! Its a freaking forum mock draft, who cares if it takes a couple weeks - are we under some type of time constraint. Its for fun! I type the wrong thing in and suddenly I dont want to run it? And I wasn't able to update it on Saturday... its FREAKING Saturday! Go out and do something besides sitting on your computer all day on a forum.

http://www.ryanbyrd.net/newramble/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/smiley-face-thumb.jpg

Don't worry - some of us DO appreciate that you put this together - and have better thingss to do with our lives than to whine about how slow it is going. don't let the haters get you down

SimonRath
02-20-2011, 07:41 PM
oh emm gee! 2 picks in under 1 hour! :D
maybe everyone will stop complaining now..

fenikz
02-20-2011, 08:19 PM
Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
Ben Ijalana, OT, Villanova
Rodney Hudson, OG, Florida State

and I'm done

thenewfeature06
02-20-2011, 08:24 PM
Solid work fenikz. Try this though. (Cleveland)

Marcell Dareus
Martez Wilson
Greg Little

fenikz
02-20-2011, 08:33 PM
I much prefer mine :)

TheFinisher
02-20-2011, 09:53 PM
Cowboys

Prince Amukamara
Stefen Wisniewski
Quinton Carter

Dunta_23
02-21-2011, 12:29 PM
Very happy with the Texans draft...

Aldon Smith, OLB, Missouri
Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
Curtis Brown, CB, Texas

xpmar9x
02-21-2011, 09:00 PM
Titans:

Nick Fairley
Jake Locker
DeAndre McDaniel

Awesome Draft!!!!


You guys interested on keep going with the draft? or stop at 3.

SimonRath
02-21-2011, 09:18 PM
Titans:

Nick Fairley
Jake Locker
DeAndre McDaniel

Awesome Draft!!!!


You guys interested on keep going with the draft? or stop at 3.

keep going!

TheFinisher
02-21-2011, 09:22 PM
keep going!

+1


(10char)

fed36
02-21-2011, 10:00 PM
i am down for more - I mean having the skins and jets still only gets me four picks in three rounds - so yeah I am down for more

gouldo
02-21-2011, 10:08 PM
keep it going....yep.

Jacksonville are up.
Then the raiders

brasho
02-22-2011, 07:05 AM
I wouldn't mind continuing, though I would prefer to be done by the time the real draft starts in April.

Dunta_23
02-22-2011, 08:11 AM
Im down for more rounds as long as people stop complaining about how long it takes

OSUGiants17
02-22-2011, 09:48 AM
Im down for more rounds as long as people stop complaining about how long it takes

this, if everyone stops complaining im down for more

thenewfeature06
02-22-2011, 09:50 AM
IF people actually keep getting pms and stuff from the thread starter we will be alright. I wouldn't care if we kept going.

T-RICH49
02-22-2011, 10:16 AM
I'm down for more rounds as well

fenikz
02-23-2011, 02:32 AM
pick time?

MaybeDavis
02-23-2011, 07:58 AM
Niners Draft:

1.QB Cam Newton, Auburn
2.WR Jonathan Baldwon, Pittsburgh
3.OLB Mark Herzlich, Boston College

I'm in for more rounds. Let's make it all 7 rounds, we will see how it works...

Captain Canuck
02-23-2011, 10:22 AM
I'm good with more rounds as well.

Unbiased
02-23-2011, 11:19 AM
I'm okay either way.

xpmar9x
02-23-2011, 01:43 PM
I'm not down for more rounds. You guys can do a 4th, and see how you feel after that!


edit:
TOLD YOU GUYS IT WOULDN'T WORK!! NOBODY MADE THEIR PICKS IN TIME, AND IT WAS BASICALLY A BIGBOARD DRAFT IN THE 4TH ROUND SO FAR.

falloutboy14
02-23-2011, 01:49 PM
Think it'd be a good idea to PM all the GMs, make sure everyone is on board to do the 4th &/or further rounds.

brasho
02-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Bucs draft:

1) Justin Houston DE/LB
2) Christian Ballard DE
3) Kendall Hunter RB

fed36
02-23-2011, 06:00 PM
While I am waiting for the JETS pick to come....I can at least sum up the skins first three rounds

#10) Julio Jones, WR Alabama
#41) Christian Ponder, QB Florida State

brasho
02-23-2011, 06:35 PM
While I am waiting for the JETS pick to come....I can at least sum up the skins first three rounds

#10) Julio Jones, WR Alabama
#41) Christian Ponder, QB Florida State

I can't fault you for taking needs... but that team needs some OL help.

fed36
02-23-2011, 06:58 PM
I can't fault you for taking needs... but that team needs some OL help.


I agree ....but the sad fact with the skins is they need help everywhere.

brasho
02-23-2011, 08:53 PM
I agree ....but the sad fact with the skins is they need help everywhere.

I know, I look at your picks and say, "He filled two glaring weaknesses." And then I look at OLine and think, "How could he not fill those weaknesses?" Perhaps as Redskins GM you convince Danny Snyder to buy some more draft picks for you.