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MURPHMAN
02-05-2011, 08:09 AM
Unlikely to happen but it looks like the NFPLA is continuing to sling some serious mud.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nfllabor-boycott

SimonRath
02-05-2011, 08:56 AM
that would be beyond idiotic..

Brent
02-05-2011, 08:58 AM
"hey, person who might be drafted, why don't you abstain from something that could help you make more money in the long run? that would be sooooo smart!"

Shane P. Hallam
02-05-2011, 10:35 AM
We talked to numerous agents at the Senior Bowl, all are preparing their guys for the combine, thus not encouraging a boycott.

ElectricEye
02-05-2011, 11:33 AM
There's nothing to gain for the kids going to the combine by boycotting it. Won't happen.

brasho
02-05-2011, 12:43 PM
Of course the NFLPA is trying to push the incoming players to boycott it. They want everybody to be on their side (fans and college players) but they don't seem to be willing to give anything up on their end. They too seek to cut rookie salaries and don't particularly care how much the fans pay to watch them play... as long as it puts money in their pockets.

MI_Buckeye
02-05-2011, 12:51 PM
We talked to numerous agents at the Senior Bowl, all are preparing their guys for the combine, thus not encouraging a boycott.

Shane, never ever ever EVER believe anything that comes out of an agents mouth. Of course, they are going to be preparing their clients for the Combine. They would be fools not to, even if a boycott seemed likely.

For the record, I think a boycott of the combine is very unlikely. Agents themselves simply have too much to lose.

PossibleCabbage
02-05-2011, 01:08 PM
For the record, I think a boycott of the combine is very unlikely. Agents themselves simply have too much to lose.

Well, the reason a combine boycott is unlikely is less that agents have something to lose, and more that it doesn't make any sense in the first place.

The Combine runs Feb 23-March 1.
The CBA, as it stands right now, expires March 4th.

So during the combine, the league and the union will be engaging in intense negotiations to try to get a deal done before the deadline. How would a boycott of the combine aid in this process at all? If anything, it would signal that the players are unwilling to compromise with the owners which is the opposite of what you need at this point in the process.

Boycotting the draft during a lockout (assuming there is one) is actually fairly sensible, however.

MI_Buckeye
02-05-2011, 03:18 PM
Well, the reason a combine boycott is unlikely is less that agents have something to lose, and more that it doesn't make any sense in the first place.

The Combine runs Feb 23-March 1.
The CBA, as it stands right now, expires March 4th.

So during the combine, the league and the union will be engaging in intense negotiations to try to get a deal done before the deadline. How would a boycott of the combine aid in this process at all? If anything, it would signal that the players are unwilling to compromise with the owners which is the opposite of what you need at this point in the process.

Boycotting the draft during a lockout (assuming there is one) is actually fairly sensible, however.

Actually, that would be the perfect time to do it since it would give them much needed leverage at a critical point in negotiations. Public perception means jack squat in these type of situations. The players would not care if they come off too rigid, as long as they get what they want out of the new CBA. The same holds true for the owners and the NFL itself.

A draft boycott is not possible. The NFL could choose to cancel the draft (almost zero percent likelyhood of that happening), but the NFLPA has no influence over when, where, how or whether the draft takes place. It is entirely a league decision.

Also, I do think the agents hold all the cards as far as the combine boycott goes since the prospects in the current draft are not members of the union yet. And given the fact that their clients have so much to lose by not participating in the evaluation process, not to mention the bridges the agents would burn with the NFL organizations by undermining the process in such a heavy-handed way, it would not seem to make any sort of sense for agents to hold their clients out of the combine.

PossibleCabbage
02-05-2011, 03:30 PM
A draft boycott is not possible.

By "a draft boycott" I mean "all invited prospects decline to attend the draft, and no prospects allow ESPN or NFLN TV Cameras into their homes."

That would be a reasonable show of solidarity with the player's union.

As to the point of a combine boycott providing leverage to the players union, I simply don't see it. The only way it could happen is if you conflate the scouting arm of an NFL team with the business arm of an NFL team, when in practice they're separate and distinct. Denying scouts valuable information about a prospect doesn't impede the league's ability to make money in any way (well, aside from the Combine's paltry ratings on NFLN). Since all of the best players are going to hook up with NFL teams anyway, all it would do is provide a comparative advantage for teams whose scouting so far is superior (as well as adding more randomness to the process, as certain medical red flags will go undiscovered without the combine physical, and certain character red flags won't be able to be poked during the combine interview.)

SimonRath
02-05-2011, 03:33 PM
in a way the combine is like practice, right?
i bet Allen Iverson is behind all this madness!