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DoughBoy
02-06-2011, 10:07 PM
I'm going to wait until this official to post it in the NFL forum, but if Jim Wyatt reports it, then its a done deal.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110206/SPORTS01/102070317/Titans-expected-pick-Munchak?odyssey

TitanHope
02-06-2011, 11:09 PM
I prefer Munch as HC, but my biggest concern is who they hire for Defensive Coordinator.

TitanHope
02-07-2011, 01:47 AM
Oh, and...

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/649105/3az9_large_medium.jpg

"With heartfelt gratitude I would like to thank all of YOU for your unwavering commitment and support through the years.

This has been an experience of a lifetime. Without the trust of Bud Adams and the entire organization none of this would have been possible. Words can't describe my feelings for all the players, coaches, and staff that have been part of this franchise.

I am honored to have been part of this legacy! Thanks for the memories!!

Jeff Fisher"

:'(

DoughBoy
02-07-2011, 08:52 AM
I has sads.

TitanHope
02-07-2011, 07:53 PM
I've always been a Fisher fan. I was a Fulmer fan too. Being on this forum, I see a lot of fans of bad teams. So it's difficult for me to be upset with Fish for not having the Titans in the same category as the Pats, Colts, or Steelers. Sometimes changes need to happen, but the grass isn't always greener. Considering how good of a coach Fish is, it's more likely the next guy will be a downgrade than an upgrade.

Last season, I did accept the fact that Fish could easily be gone in the next fews years. But what I hope was that it wouldn't be rushed - I didn't want a change just to make one. I wanted it to be thought out, and I only wanted it to take place if a great candidate was available (and the candidate would be likely to accept the job). The opposite has happened. They made a sudden decision that surprised many, and they did it late when the best candidates had been taken. And considering the looming lockout, our worst case scenario has taken place.

Now, I will say that I love Munch. He's had success as a player. He's had success as a position coach. So it stands to reason he could be a successful head coach. I know he skipped OC, but that's X's and O's so it's a different coaching. There's a worry that he's Fisher 2.0, but he's an offensive coach, as opposed to Fish being a defensive guy, so it stands to reason they could have different philosophies. Plus, he's been able to watch Fisher and learn from Fish's mistakes. Out of all the candidates, I like Munch the most.

The issue now is to settle DC. I'm guessing it's McGinnis or the Packers' ILB Coach Winston Moss. McGinnis may be the best hire, but if we want new blood, the Packers guys would be a good option. It'll probably be McGinnis since I bet the Packers would block us from hiring Moss as DC. I'd prefer Chuck Smith for DL Coach and Bruce Matthews for OL Coach, but who knows what happens there.

But in the end, the HC doesn't matter. It just doesn't. QB is what matters. If we strike out on our QB pick this draft, then it doesn't matter who is at HC - we gon' lose!

DoughBoy
02-07-2011, 10:17 PM
Things are looking good on the Bruce Matthews front:

Now that Munchak has been hired, look for him to add former Titans lineman Bruce Matthews to his coaching staff. Munch is his best friend, and he could coach his son, too

TitanHope
02-08-2011, 12:26 AM
Here's how I dream the rest of the staff turns out:

HC: Mike Munchak

OC: Mike Heimerdinger
QB: Jim Zorn (Dowell Loggains)
RB: Sherman Smith (???)
WR: Ray Sherman (???)
TE: John Zernhelt
OL: Bruce Matthews (???)

DC: Jerry Gray (Dave McGinnis; Winston Moss)
DL: Chuck Smith (???)
LB: Dave McGinnis
DB: Someone New

ST: Alan Lowry
S/C: Steve Watterson


Just a way of throwing names around and brain storming. The guys in parenthesis are incumbants/possibly candidates. The (???) means I have no clue about another available candidate.

Not sure how high Winston Moss is on the radar, but I think McGinnis is a backup plan (a good one at that). Apparently, Munch's #1 target for DC is Jerry Gray, who he is friends with. He was on the staff for the Super Bowl run, and afterwards became the DC for the Bills from '01-'05. He's now in his first year as the DB Coach/Asst. HC at the University of Texas, and had stints in Washington and Seattle. That's up in the air. I think Winston Moss is desperate for a shot as a DC somewhere, and being in a different conference, we could get an interview. I think McGinnis is the safe bet though.

The position coaches I'm stumped on, but I feel the guys I listed would be slam dunks. Munch says he wants to complete the staff by the combine, so hopefully he does!

Ness
02-08-2011, 01:42 AM
Hopefully Munchack isn't the next Hall of Fame player to be a disaster as a head coach like Singletary was with us. Munchak hasn't been a coordinator before right?

TitanHope
02-08-2011, 10:34 AM
Munchak hasn't been a coordinator before right?

Right. He was an offensive assistant after he retired, and then became the OL Coach. That's pretty much his coaching resume.

But I don't think him not having OC experience is a big deal. Tons of amazing coordinators fail as HC's, so it's not a requirement for success. Only two other coaches in the NFL skipped being an offensive or defensive coordinator at any level on their way to becoming HC's: Andy Reid and John Harbaugh. Both of which have had success.

Munch just needs a good DC to run the defense, like Reid had in Jim Johnson and Harbaugh had in Rex Ryan.

TitanHope
02-08-2011, 01:05 PM
Well, Dinger is gone...

Good: This shows Munch has the balls to sever ties with people when he thinks it's best for the team. This is a move Fisher would have never done - well, Fish would have done it as a scapegoat, and not ahead of time like this.

Bad: Dinger is a good OC. A very good OC. There was a night and day difference between him and Norm Chow. At one point last year, the offense was 2nd in the NFL is scoring, and then the injuries and eventual collapse came. When he had a healthy VY, our offense was the tits, but there's nothing Dinger can do when Britt goes down or both his #1 and #2 QB get hurt, forcing a rookie QB to start. At times, he made calls that were frustrating, but playcalling is the easiest thing to criticize in this sport. Bottom line is Dinger didn't deserve being fired. Especially sad after he continued to work for the team while he underwent cancer treatment.

TitanHope
02-08-2011, 01:12 PM
Also, Jim Wyatt reports that the Titans have informed the Texans that they plan to interview Bruce Matthews for their vacant OL Coach position. Also according to Wyatt, Matthews never signed an extension, and is about to come back to Tennessee and be reunited with former teammate and best friend Mike Munchak.

He will be ours... He will be... He will be...

DoughBoy
02-08-2011, 02:04 PM
sooooooo..... Chilly as OC? *barf*.......Ray Sherman?.....*double barf*

I don't really understand firing Dinger, but we really don't know how their relationship is behind closed doors (my guess not very good at all).

CashmoneyDrew
02-08-2011, 02:08 PM
Can't say I'm surprised by this move after some things Munch said in his presser. Props to him for telling it like it is.

As much as I like Dinger and I hope he gets healthy, this is probably for the best. Especially long-term.

DoughBoy
02-08-2011, 02:18 PM
Heads be rollin' yo......Munch just fired Fisher's offensive and defensive quality control coaches. Definitely isn't living in his shadow.

CashmoneyDrew
02-08-2011, 02:28 PM
I love it. Hopefully Marcus Robertson is next.

Complex
02-08-2011, 02:35 PM
I said Bruce Matthews would be our O-Line coach . Why did Josh McDaniels have to sign with the Rams :( and we better not get Chilly.Did Marcus Robertson play with Mike? I want Blaine Bishop to coach the DBs.

DoughBoy
02-08-2011, 02:41 PM
Eddie George for RBs coach, Neil O'Donnell for QBs, Kevin Carter for D-line, Drew Bennett for WRs, Frank Wycheck for TEs.

8==============D


J/k

;D

CashmoneyDrew
02-08-2011, 03:02 PM
I'd like to wrangle Kippy Brown away from the Seahawks.

TitanHope
02-08-2011, 03:05 PM
Lol, everyone of our players in the local media are gonna get called up.

I actually wondered if Eddie George could coach when I was thinking about RB Coach candidates.

I think we have a good shot for Ray Sherman for WR Coach. Jim Zorn is available and would be a good QB Coach (Loggains would probably get demoted), and Flacco raved about him in Baltimore. Reino has connections to Seattle, where Zorn played/coached and Sherman Smith currently is. Sherman Smith was our RB Coach for years, and then when Zorn became HC at Washington, he hired Smith to be OC. So if we got Zorn, Smith would be open to coming here from Seattle, which would be a lateral move. But maybe Carrol would allow it since we're in two different conferences? That's solidify our offense, and all would be slam dunks (just don't let Sherman Smith evaluate RB talent!).

Our #1 target for DC, Jerry Gray, is a former DB Coach. If he's hired, then hopefully he'll bring in a better coach than Robertson.

Heads be rollin' yo......Munch just fired Fisher's offensive and defensive quality control coaches. Definitely isn't living in his shadow.

Hurrr? Isn't Dinger the only one that Munch fired? Cecil got canned under Fisher, and Washburn, Craig Johnson, and Fred Graves abandoned ship by getting jobs elsewhere. I is lost...

I love it. Hopefully Marcus Robertson is next.

Yessssssssssssssssss!

DoughBoy
02-08-2011, 03:22 PM
Hurrr? Isn't Dinger the only one that Munch fired? Cecil got canned under Fisher, and Washburn, Craig Johnson, and Fred Graves abandoned ship by getting jobs elsewhere. I is lost...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110208/SPORTS01/110208072/Tennessee-Titans-coach-Mike-Munchak-fires-Mike-Heimerdinger-two-assistants

In addition to Heimerdinger, the Titans on Tuesday also fired defensive assistant Rayna Stewart and offensive Assistant Richie Wessman.

stephenson86
02-08-2011, 05:07 PM
I LOVE Munch, bring on the Munchak revolution, the new Titans are coming too town in 2011.

TitansCJftw
02-08-2011, 05:13 PM
clean ******* house and do the damn thing sweeping changes is cool with me, its a new day should be an interesting off-season, im gettin amped about the draft and the futurez

stephenson86
02-08-2011, 05:23 PM
Me too, **** what we had, we are a new team with a new coach who has his plan for taking us to the championship. If that means cleaning house then he is gonna get his gloves on and clean it...I like his style and I can't wait to see Bruce Matthews.

CashmoneyDrew
02-09-2011, 04:23 PM
It's official. Bruce Matthews is the OL coach.

TitanHope
02-09-2011, 08:18 PM
It's official. Bruce Matthews is the OL coach.

This move is cool (Ok, really cool!), but lets not get too hyped up for this like the guys on other sites. Bruce has never been an OL Coach, and had the OL Coach and another assistant above him.

Still gotta think Munch will help with the OL, so I'm expecting our OL to be a strong point like it has in the past.

TitanHope
02-10-2011, 07:49 PM
Jets shot us down after we asked to interview Bill Callaghan for OC.

TitanHope
02-11-2011, 03:55 PM
Based on the guys that Munch has gone after OC, it looks like we'll be running the West Coast Offense.

If that's true, then I want them to pass on QB in the 1st and take Ponder in the 2nd. Then with our 1st RD'er, take BPA - likely either Marcel Dareus, Robert Quinn, Von Miller, or Prince Amukamara.

CashmoneyDrew
02-12-2011, 04:02 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking Ponder or Dalton in the third as well. I just do not like any of the other four mentioned for our first pick.

Patrick Peterson, Prince Amukamara, Von Miller, Marcel Dareus, Robert Quinn, Daquan Bowers... all of these guys intrigue me more than any QB at number eight.

TitanHope
02-12-2011, 05:53 PM
Sources: Gray will take Titans DC job - Terry McCormick's TitansInsider (http://ten.247sports.com/Article/Jerry-Gray-set-to-take-defensive-coordinator-job-with-Titans-14995)

Ehhhhh...

CashmoneyDrew
02-12-2011, 06:32 PM
Well Blaine Bishop was really pushing for him on the radio and he can't be any worse than the last Bozo, so I'll take it.

TitanHope
02-12-2011, 07:17 PM
It's a rock solid hire, and at this point, probably as good as it gets. Especially good if his scheme is like Gregg Williams's.

I dunno. I guess I was just hoping for more. This was a hugely important hire, considering Munch's inexperience and him only ever being an offensive player and position coach. I'm not sure if Gray is a defensive guru who can compensate for that.

TitanHope
02-14-2011, 06:56 AM
Titans express interest in Mike Tice - PFT (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/13/titans-express-interest-in-mike-tice/)
Mike Tice could be on Titans radar - Chicago Sun Times (http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2011/02/mike_tice_could_be_on_titans_r.html)

Hmmmmmmmmmm... I have two immediate thoughts:

1) Our OL better be the balls. That'd be 3 OL guys on staff (Munch, Matthews, and Tice).
2) Would this allow Randy Moss to return, and better yet, actually exist on offense? Or, could Britt be used/treated as the target Moss was when Tice was in Minny?

I think Tice is a WCO guy too, so we're definitely going that direction instead of the I-formation/play-action stuff, which I was actually a fan of. I think CJ fits a WCO better though, which is part of the reason I hated us drafting CJ at the time - I thought he'd suck in our between the tackles running game (And while I wasn't pro-RB, I was ok with taking one, but I wanted Mendenhall or JStew). In the WCO, he'd be getting more passes too...may be why Munch wants it.

Another name being thrown around (mostly by Titans fans) is Tom Clements, current QB Coach for the GB Packers. I think that's mostly fueled by the Matt Flynn possibility though: Bring in Clements, trade for Flynn, and have him QB the offense while we sit the future QB/use the pick on defense.

CashmoneyDrew
02-14-2011, 04:11 PM
Eh this reeks of a first mistake from Munchak. Seems like he may have jumped the gun firing Heimerdinger. He wasn't a great offensive coordinator, but he's definitely better than Tice IMO. Here's hoping he's not the guy.

TitanHope
02-14-2011, 06:31 PM
Eh this reeks of a first mistake from Munchak. Seems like he may have jumped the gun firing Heimerdinger. He wasn't a great offensive coordinator, but he's definitely better than Tice IMO. Here's hoping he's not the guy.

Wish granted! The Bears have denied our request to interview Tice.

Tom Clements is still on my list. But I don't want to trade a 3rd for Flynn (which is why a lot of other Titans fans want him, since he coached Flynn in GB). If we go to the WCO, then I want Andy Dalton or Christian Ponder in the 3rd. Both of those guys fit that scheme perfectly, and would allow us to take a defender in the 1st.

I didn't want to fire Dinger either... :(

CashmoneyDrew
02-14-2011, 07:01 PM
Off topic, but Titanhope I'm going to see if my adopted mother will hook you up with Ke$ha. In return you must hook me up with her best friend Katy Perry when she eventually divorces whats-his-face.

TitanHope
02-14-2011, 07:18 PM
Off topic, but Titanhope I'm going to see if my adopted mother will hook you up with Ke$ha. In return you must hook me up with her best friend Katy Perry when she eventually divorces whats-his-face.

There's a story to this and I wanna hear it!

CashmoneyDrew
02-14-2011, 07:31 PM
My best friend's mom is Kesha and her mom's dental hygienist. Kesha wanted to have him visit her in LA so his mom told him but he refused since he's stuck up his girlfriend's booty hole. I figure I'll see if I can hook ya up since you got such a crush on her.

TitanHope
02-14-2011, 08:04 PM
Me? Meet the Ke$ha?

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/daniela114813565/heart.gif

CashmoneyDrew
02-14-2011, 09:34 PM
Meet? No, I intend for you to marry her. That's how you'll get me in with California Boobs herself, Kitty Purry.

TitanHope
02-14-2011, 09:45 PM
Me and the Ke$ha would have strange kids. Like, both mentally and physically. Our son would look like John Travolta with Russell Brand's hair.

And yes, I shall infiltrate their entourage and sabotage the ungodly union that is Katy Perry and Russell Brand!

DoughBoy
02-15-2011, 01:44 PM
Titans hire Chris Palmer

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110215/SPORTS01/110215069/Titans-name-Chris-Palmer-offensive-coordinator?odyssey

At least we got a supposed "QB guru". Not a sexy hire, but can't say I'm against it. Anyone know what system he runs? I assume west coast?

DoughBoy
02-15-2011, 01:48 PM
EDIT: here is another article on Titansonline. He really does have a impressive resume' with QBs. His history as an OC isn't shabby either.

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Titans-Name-Chris-Palmer-Offensive-Coordinator/ea2a68e8-5485-4081-a216-cda1c549b4ec

TitanHope
02-15-2011, 05:20 PM
Titans hire Chris Palmer

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110215/SPORTS01/110215069/Titans-name-Chris-Palmer-offensive-coordinator?odyssey

At least we got a supposed "QB guru". Not a sexy hire, but can't say I'm against it. Anyone know what system he runs? I assume west coast?

Yup, WCO.

I'm fine with the hire. I like that we're changing the offense, and he has everything experience wise that I want in the coordinator positions under Munch. QB has always been a bigger worry for me than OC, though.