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bigbluedefense
07-29-2012, 11:51 AM
Sinorice Moss did the same. Considering Jernigan is his twin, I'm still skeptical.

Forenci
07-29-2012, 11:52 AM
Sinorice Moss did the same. Considering Jernigan is his twin, I'm still skeptical.

Meh, I don't know if that's a fair comparison. This is only JJ's second season and you gave up on him as a rookie. I don't think that's fair at all.

bigbluedefense
07-29-2012, 11:56 AM
I know I'm being unfair. But I just don't like his game. He's a shrimp. A shrimp that can't go over the middle, and in our offense, if you're gonna be a small WR, you are best suited in the slot, and the slot in our offense goes over the middle a lot.

I just don't see a place for him in our offense.

Rosebud
07-29-2012, 12:17 PM
Trattou in a walking boot.

Also, Reese said Bennett was brought in to be a blocking te to help the run game. I figured as much. He said any catches he brings to the table is an added bonus. That was how I looked at that signing as well. Hopefully it works out. I'm still skeptical.

Herzlich is supposedly looking very good out there. Cross your fingers on that one. If this defense can stay healthy and if Herz can become college Herz again, we'll have no weakness on paper. Which is I scary thought.

http://media.nj.com/giants_impact/photo/9166727-large.jpg
"Challenge, accepted."

bigbluedefense
07-29-2012, 12:22 PM
Crap. I forgot. Perry Fewell will try his hardest to rush 3 and drop everyone in a complex zone that can change from Cover 2 to Cover 3 to Cover 4 to maybe Cover 1 depending on the formation, motions, and route combinations.

It's like Tim Lewis all over again with the unnecessary complexity in his zones.

I just hope he smartened up and learned his lesson from last year.

Rosebud
07-29-2012, 12:40 PM
Crap. I forgot. Perry Fewell will try his hardest to rush 3 and drop everyone in a complex zone that can change from Cover 2 to Cover 3 to Cover 4 to maybe Cover 1 depending on the formation, motions, and route combinations.

It's like Tim Lewis all over again with the unnecessary complexity in his zones.

I just hope he smartened up and learned his lesson from last year.

http://prod.static.bills.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/BUF/photos/coachcards09/fewell_p_coachcard.jpg

Does this look like the face of a man who learns his lessons?

OSUGiants17
07-29-2012, 01:07 PM
http://prod.static.bills.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/BUF/photos/coachcards09/fewell_p_coachcard.jpg

Does this look like the face of a man who learns his lessons?

I just spit out my water. I really hope that he has learned and won't rush any less than 4 this year. This team is made to have press-man coverage, rushing 4, with Phillips covering deep third.

BigBlueNorwegian
07-29-2012, 01:48 PM
Everyone knows what will happen. Fewell probably thinks that the only reason his defense didn't work last year was because of the injuriezz. So expect the old rush three, cover 4 defense to start the season.

bigbluedefense
07-29-2012, 05:43 PM
It's obviously way early, but so far the battle for the 3rd WR spot on our team seems to be btw Jernigan and Randle. They are making the most plays right now.

This is a big camp for Barden. He has to show that he not only can play WR, but play it very well and compete for that 3rd WR spot while also proving he can stay healthy.

There is absolutely no point of retaining this guy if he can't step up and play consistent ball at WR and stay healthy, considering he can't play special teams at all.

Part of me thinks we're gonna regret not re-signing Devin Thomas as a special team specialist. He might have been worth the money. He could have been our 5th WR and our special teams ace.

Now we need someone to step up in his absence on special teams.

bigbluedefense
07-29-2012, 05:55 PM
It also sounds like even our 2nd and 3rd team players are making a ton of plays too. Some guys I assumed would be easy cuts may not be so easy after all.

I hope I'm not falling for training camp hype, but it really sounds like we're a very deep team right now and we're gonna cut some talented players bc we just have no room for them.

NY+Giants=NYG
07-29-2012, 05:59 PM
Crap. I forgot. Perry Fewell will try his hardest to rush 3 and drop everyone in a complex zone that can change from Cover 2 to Cover 3 to Cover 4 to maybe Cover 1 depending on the formation, motions, and route combinations.

It's like Tim Lewis all over again with the unnecessary complexity in his zones.

I just hope he smartened up and learned his lesson from last year.



Stop! Stop! You're making me sad! JJ is fine, but I take a wait and see approach, but no making me sad over PF. Please for once can we get a DC who is not a mess during the season. Is that too much to ask?

Can we not leave someone uncovered?

Rosebud
07-29-2012, 08:02 PM
I think Coughlin might be too supportive of his DC. In Buffalo the roster fit Fewell's style of play better, but he was also a lot more adaptive. For us he's seemed to focus a lot more on getting more intensive and complex despite having players that fit what he wants to accomplish even less.

Giantsfan1080
07-29-2012, 08:10 PM
We have the best depth in the NFL by far.

NY+Giants=NYG
07-30-2012, 08:17 AM
I hope for once Fewell can have a great regular season. That side of the ball needs to be consistent for once.

bigbluedefense
07-30-2012, 08:23 AM
It really just comes down to his willingness to simplify the defense. In his first season our defense was relatively successful under him, and it was because he kept his zones simple. If the call was Tampa 2, the play stayed as Tampa 2 regardless of what the offense was doing before and during the play.

This past year he tried introducing more complexity, where the call can be Tampa 2, but then after the offense lined up it can change to Cover 3, and then after a motion that Cover 3 can change to a Cover 1, then after the snap depending on the route trees can change to a Cover 4.

So all that complexity led to a lot of miscommunication and blown coverages.

In the playoffs and during our run in the regular season, after Grant and other DBs pleaded with him to simplify the defense, we made a run, and during that time he scrapped all the adjustments and let the defense dictate the play to the offense instead of constantly reacting to what the offense did.

Which is much more effective. Every coverage is designed to work as long as your players communicate and play fast. Believe in the play and let your players make a play. If he can just stay with a simplified approach and let our athletes play like athletes out there, we'll be fine.

If he's stubborn and wants to install his complexity with a full training camp...we're screwed. It doesn't work. Players are dumb. You can't have a complex defense that makes them think too much. When you're thinking you're not playing fast, and when you're not playing fast you get beat.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 11:10 AM
I told you about Herz when we did that players on the team 5 years from now. I expect good things.

bigbluedefense
07-30-2012, 11:26 AM
It's just hard for me to comprehend. How does a guy who gets a cancer that's so difficult to beat that most people who get it pass away within a year, not only beat that cancer, but then get into the NFL?!

And not only that, but he has a freakin metal rod in his leg, how on earth can a guy with a metal rod in his leg possibly regain his athleticism and beast it in the NFL, which has the top 1% of the athletes in this country?

How is that possible?

I just can't wrap my head around that.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 11:57 AM
Well you get better from the chemo as time passes. Are you sure about the metal rod?

bigbluedefense
07-30-2012, 12:00 PM
Pretty sure. I heard it on NFL network during the draft process.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 12:09 PM
I have looked it up and yes he does have a rod in his leg. Pretty amazing indeed even though I'm not sure if that has any impact on athletic ability.

Rosebud
07-30-2012, 12:22 PM
A metal rod in his leg isn't nearly as drastic as the muscle he lost from the cancer and subsequent therapy.

bigbluedefense
07-30-2012, 12:24 PM
I actually liked pre-cancer Herzlich more than my boy Luke. And we all know how much I loved Keuchly this past year. If we can get that Herzlich I would be thrilled.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 12:25 PM
We are going to get that Herzlich! Chase will be with the 2nd team me thinks.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 01:44 PM
Hosley carted off today.

bigbluedefense
07-30-2012, 02:14 PM
....it has begun.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 02:45 PM
....it has begun.

Terrell Thomas has a swollen knee and was sent for further testing.

Jughead10
07-30-2012, 02:52 PM
Terrell Thomas has a swollen knee and was sent for further testing.

His knee worries the crap out of me. If he isn't 100% we automatically become thin at CB especially if Hosley is hurt.

In other knee news, I was cleared to jog lightly today :) I'm hoping to be doing change of direction drills by the time the season starts. You never know. The Giants might need bodies by December.

bigbluedefense
07-30-2012, 02:57 PM
He's not ready yet. Knees swell whenever you rush back from ligament tears. When I tore my MCL my knee swelled up when I first pushed it after I thought I was recovered.

I just hope he's ready by the regular season. They really need to baby him and be careful.

Let's hope he didn't reinjure it.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 02:59 PM
Good thing we built up all that depth at CB.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 03:08 PM
Hosley just had a cut and needed stitches so that's good. Two reporters have said that Coughlin sounds concerned in regards to Thomas though.

NY+Giants=NYG
07-30-2012, 03:19 PM
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton
#NYG just tried to run screen against NASCAR line: Osi & Kiwi at DE, JPP & Tuck at DT. Yeah, that's not happening #giants



HAHA!

Rosebud
07-30-2012, 03:38 PM
Man, and I was really excited for Hosley to.

EDIT: At least he'll be back. Provided Fewell minimizes the retardation I think he could have a very positive impact as a rookie NB.

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 03:44 PM
Sounds like the Thomas injury is bad.

bigbluedefense
07-30-2012, 04:02 PM
Crap. Well...this is why we drafted Prince. Time to step up.

Big_Pete
07-30-2012, 04:15 PM
I know I'm being unfair. But I just don't like his game. He's a shrimp. A shrimp that can't go over the middle, and in our offense, if you're gonna be a small WR, you are best suited in the slot, and the slot in our offense goes over the middle a lot.

I just don't see a place for him in our offense.

Couldn't you make a simlar argument about Steve Smith?

I think Jernigan could fill a similar role as Manningham as that downfield threat. I think it is only fair to give Jernigan a chance to show what he can do.

As far as fitting our offense, I thnk you have to give the front office the benefit of the doubt at this stage. They have proven that they know what they are doing, even if it isn't obvious or the popular consensus.

BamaFalcon59
07-30-2012, 04:17 PM
Hosley is about to step up!

bigbluedefense
07-30-2012, 04:22 PM
We hope so! I don't think he's ready though. When in off coverage, he gives up too much space, and he doesn't have much press man experience so we don't know what he brings there.

And he kind of sucks at tackling.

He's a little raw to me, he needs a year to hone in on his skills. The raw talent is there though.

BamaFalcon59
07-30-2012, 04:38 PM
He's so bad at tackling.

It depends on his attitude IMO as to what he will be in the league.

BigBlueNorwegian
07-30-2012, 06:54 PM
Yeah, so T2 reinjured his ACL. He's probably done in the NFL now. Such a shame. Dude was a real player when healthy. Wish him the best of luck in his recovery, but no player has ever come back from three ACL tears before.

OSUGiants17
07-30-2012, 07:13 PM
This is his 3rd ACL tear? Hasn't Hixon had 3 anyways?

Giantsfan1080
07-30-2012, 07:32 PM
Yeah sounds like a partial tear so Thomas career is probably over. Such a shame.

Forenci
07-30-2012, 08:52 PM
So lame. He was really good and a sure fire replacement to Webster. Now Prince needs to be that guy and we might be in the market for a CB next draft. It shot up the list in terms of priority because of this.

Big_Pete
07-31-2012, 12:11 AM
With Thomas it all depends on how bad the "acl damage" is.

Hopefully it is not too serious and we can put him on PUP and get him back over the back half of the season.

If it is severe, do we look at an injury settlement or even cut outright? (we have a bit of money invested in Thomas which we could use elsewhere$
Or should we look at putting him on IR and hope he is right for next year?

Do we need to consider other moves?

Jughead10
07-31-2012, 07:03 AM
You can't put him on PUP once he has participated in a practice.

Giantsfan1080
07-31-2012, 07:17 AM
It's a partial tear which is what Hixon had last year. 99.5% that he's done for the year and probably career. Good thing we only gave him $2 million guaranteed.

Jughead10
07-31-2012, 07:31 AM
I just hope he can get past the mental part of it and doesn't become depressed or anything like that. The guy basically just wasted a year of his life rehabbing.

Giantsfan1080
07-31-2012, 07:36 AM
I just hope he can get past the mental part of it and doesn't become depressed or anything like that. The guy basically just wasted a year of his life rehabbing.

It's going to be tough. The Giants will treat him well though. I wonder why it seems all our guys who tear their ACL's always re-tear them? Thomas, Hixon, Goff, Witherspoon. Something is weird.

Jughead10
07-31-2012, 07:38 AM
It's going to be tough. The Giants will treat him well though. I wonder why it seems all our guys who tear their ACL's always re-tear them? Thomas, Hixon, Goff, Witherspoon. Something is weird.

Who knows. Although I'd separate Thomas from that list as his first one was at USC and not handled by our doctors or under our supervision.

NY+Giants=NYG
07-31-2012, 08:22 AM
I really would like to see where we rank in the ACL injury dept. Also, like to see the routine the S&C coach has for these guys and compare it to a team who is consistently healthy, specifically knee injuries.

bigbluedefense
07-31-2012, 04:02 PM
I guess its safe to say we're gonna sign Grant back very soon.

Unless Chris Horton tears it up. Even then we need Grant for depth.

Giantsfan1080
07-31-2012, 04:33 PM
Will Hill has been impressive so far apparently. If he turned his life around could actually end up being a steal.

BigBlueNorwegian
07-31-2012, 05:23 PM
I'm not sure if I want us to use Rolle in as the nickel this season as well. He's better suited for the safety position IMO. And we should have enough cornerbacks to have one of them fill that role. I like either one of Coe, Bruce Johnson or Tryon to become our new nickel CB.

Big_Pete
07-31-2012, 09:41 PM
I guess its safe to say we're gonna sign Grant back very soon.

Unless Chris Horton tears it up. Even then we need Grant for depth.

Very likely, particularly with Sash suspended for 4 games.

Are there any interesting cb options that could shake loose in the roster cuts? Or be a viable trade option?

Big_Pete
07-31-2012, 09:46 PM
I'm not sure if I want us to use Rolle in as the nickel this season as well. He's better suited for the safety position IMO. And we should have enough cornerbacks to have one of them fill that role. I like either one of Coe, Bruce Johnson or Tryon to become our new nickel CB.

I'm hoping Hosely can emerge as a nickle CB

We still have good depth with Coe, Tryon, Johnson, Moulden and Bing.

Prince does need to emerge as a starter though

scottyboy
07-31-2012, 09:53 PM
as long as bing makes the team, we'll be fine

BamaFalcon59
07-31-2012, 10:14 PM
Hosley will pull down 8+ interceptions.

bigbluedefense
08-01-2012, 11:36 AM
I was concerned that the Giants might not be 100% focused on the Cowboys come week 1 bc of all the celebrating and what not, but after Jerry Jones has been doing what Jerry does the past couple of days, I'm not concerned anymore. This team will be ready to play.

Now if they're healthy remains to be seen. Hopefully Prince and Hosely can make up for TT. We'll need em vs the Cowboys.

Giantsfan1080
08-01-2012, 12:16 PM
According to Giunta Rolle will step in as the nickel CB right now. We need someone in that 2nd group of depth to step up and take it.

Giants aren't going to want to lose the night they get their banner. The atmosphere at Giants Stadium that night is going to be electric. I can't wait to be there. I took off that whole week haha.

BigBlueNorwegian
08-01-2012, 12:33 PM
Statisically the reigning champs almost always wins the first game of the next season. I don't know the exact numbers, but I know they will be overwhelmingly in our favor.

Giantsfan1080
08-01-2012, 12:34 PM
Since they started playing the SB champ in the first game of the year on Thursday(Wednesday this year) they are undefeated. 5-0 or 6-0 something close to that.

bigbluedefense
08-01-2012, 12:41 PM
Yeah I don't care for those statistics though. Each game is its individual statistic.

Rolle is actually a better nickel CB than a FS to be honest, but I still rather have him at Safety. And I'm sure he's not thrilled about this either. Hosely and Prince have to step up. We really have nothing else to hope for other than that.

You're not gonna pull 2 CBs out of your ass. The ones in house just have to step up. Prince looked good in the playoffs when he was in man coverage. I'm not entirely confident in his zone abilities, but he did look good in man. Hosely is a work in progress. I was hoping he'd be redshirted this year, but now we really need him to progress faster than I hoped for.

Hosely is raw to me. He has the tools, but he has to unlearn some stuff he did in college. Like giving too much space, and developing his press man skills which he really didn't develop in college.

Having him in the slot worries me a little bc of his awful tackling too. You want your nickel to be a good tackler.

Giantsfan1080
08-01-2012, 12:45 PM
Yeah agree with everything there. I think Tryon and Johnson need to step early moreso than Hosley. Tryon is a good tackler as we all know and Johnson some experience within the system. Hopefulyl Hosley get can get by the 2nd half of the year. This also just puts a little more pressure on the front 7.

bigbluedefense
08-01-2012, 12:50 PM
I'm not as sold on Tyron as the rest of you are. I hope he thrives, but I'm not counting on it.

I think of the rest of our CBs, Hosely has the most raw talent of the bunch, so I'm hoping he can give us what we need.

I actually think if we're going 3 CBs in the nickel, we should consider playing Webster in the slot and Prince and Hosely/Tyron on the outside since it would be an easier transition for them.

Giantsfan1080
08-01-2012, 12:56 PM
Ehh most teams #1 WR don't play the slot. We need to keep Webster on those guys.

Tryon was a 4th round pick so he does have some decent pedigree. He's already a Coughlin fave and it seems like he can play man very well. It needs to be next Friday already so we can see some of these guys in action.

Hosley was actually my favorite pick in the draft this year so I'm not selling him short. He just needs a good deal of work and experience before he steps his game up I believe.

BigBlueNorwegian
08-01-2012, 01:09 PM
Yeah I don't care for those statistics though. Each game is its individual statistic.



I get what you're saying, but those kind of stats are both logical and telling. The reigning champs in their own house, opening the season on national television? Yeah, most champions are not going to let someone come into their building on that stage, and win.

But with that said: I'm also glad that Jerry Jones is doing his best to fire up our team. And I also know that if any team would be able to show up completely flat in that kind of situation, it would be the Giants, lol.

Can't wait for the first preseason game! I'm probably not going to be able to watch it though, because I'm going on a cabin trip with 10 girls :) It will be the first Giants game i don't watch live since 2009 though. So the streak ends here...

Giantsfan1080
08-01-2012, 01:15 PM
Screw the Giants. I'm going camping in Norway.

BigBlueNorwegian
08-01-2012, 01:18 PM
Screw the Giants. I'm going camping in Norway.

Hahaha! No problem! Just PM me when you land! It's just me and three other guys on the trip so far, so they probably wont mind!

bigbluedefense
08-01-2012, 01:51 PM
I suddenly want to be Norwegian!

Malaka
08-01-2012, 02:05 PM
I have some confidence in Bruce Johnson. Two years ago before his injury he was a really solid nickel and dime corner. If he is healthy I see no reason why he wouldn't be over Tryon and at least Hosley for the time being.

Still upset about TT, great guy and great player, but as everyone has said his career is probably done now. Still I really like C-Web, Prince, Bruce, and Hosley for the future.

Ron
08-01-2012, 02:09 PM
I have some confidence in Bruce Johnson. Two years ago before his injury he was a really solid nickel and dime corner. If he is healthy I see no reason why he wouldn't be over Tryon and at least Hosley for the time being.

Still upset about TT, great guy and great player, but as everyone has said his career is probably done now. Still I really like C-Web, Prince, Bruce, and Hosley for the future.

I expect the Giants will take a CB in the first two rounds next year. Webster should start to regress soon. Prince could be good, but I dont see him being able to be as good as Webster was.

scottyboy
08-01-2012, 03:27 PM
guys, we're fine.

Although Zak, this may make Logan Ryan a round 1 possibility for us!! :)

Forenci
08-01-2012, 03:28 PM
Reese hates Rutgers and knows they're poopy and will never draft a Rutgers player!

OSUGiants17
08-01-2012, 03:30 PM
So I think it's safe to say we go D first round next year whether it be DE or CB, maybe even DT or S.

bigbluedefense
08-01-2012, 03:33 PM
Don't forget OT. I'm pretty sure Will Beatty still sucks.

scottyboy
08-01-2012, 03:36 PM
forenci, i hate you. maybe if Beatty and his uconn ass didn't suck so bad, we'd have a better Oline!

and I meant to post this in my previous post:

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/80/801288.jpg

Forenci
08-01-2012, 03:42 PM
forenci, i hate you. maybe if Beatty and his uconn ass didn't suck so bad, we'd have a better Oline!

and I meant to post this in my previous post:

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/80/801288.jpg

Anthony Davis sucks more than Beatty does. JERK!

scottyboy
08-01-2012, 04:10 PM
pfffft Anthony Davis is at least a surefire starter. Beatty may not beat out Diehl/Brewer

bigbluedefense
08-01-2012, 04:17 PM
"Goddamit Donald" Brown.

/discussion.

OSUGiants17
08-01-2012, 04:27 PM
Don't forget OT. I'm pretty sure Will Beatty still sucks.

Yea we will need OT, but I doubt we go OT round one. Reese will value DL and DB more.

Giantsfan1080
08-01-2012, 05:18 PM
guys, we're fine.

Although Zak, this may make Logan Ryan a round 1 possibility for us!! :)

I don't know if I can keep doing this to myself every draft. There's a clear need for a player and it just happens that Rutgers player isn't chosen. I'd be even more pissed about not taking Ryan than I when we didn't choose Sanu.

Giantsfan1080
08-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Maybe some good news? I think Schefter is probably wrong on this the way Coughlin has been talking but holding out some hope.

Giants CB Terrell Thomas is scheduled to meet Tuesday in Pensacola, Florida with Dr. James Andrews. But doctors who have examined Thomas so far do not believe he has a torn ACL and they are optimistic he will play again this season.

Forenci
08-01-2012, 09:43 PM
"Goddamit Donald" Brown.

/discussion.

I love that video. It's just so funny.

Maybe some good news? I think Schefter is probably wrong on this the way Coughlin has been talking but holding out some hope.

I saw that as well. I'm not holding out hope and fully expect him to be gone for the season and potentially his career but it would be great if he could come back. Who knows if he's the same player at this point though. His confidence to turn and make cuts on the field must be shot at this point though.

I know when I messed up my shoulder my confidence to throw was shot. I can only imagine how it is with an ACL playing as a position that forces you to make quick cuts and changes of direction.

Big_Pete
08-02-2012, 03:10 AM
Maybe some good news? I think Schefter is probably wrong on this the way Coughlin has been talking but holding out some hope.

I am not sure, I think the front office are just being cautious and want to thoroughly evaluate Thomas' situation before making any decisions or announcements. If there is an obvious tear, Thomas will be put on IR at the very least, thus freeing up a roster spot.

It could be that Thomas has just agravated his knee somehow without tearing his ACL.

We just have to wait and see.

Giantsfan1080
08-02-2012, 07:31 AM
I am not sure, I think the front office are just being cautious and want to thoroughly evaluate Thomas' situation before making any decisions or announcements. If there is an obvious tear, Thomas will be put on IR at the very least, thus freeing up a roster spot.

It could be that Thomas has just agravated his knee somehow without tearing his ACL.

We just have to wait and see.

If he has a torn ACL the Giants will waive/injure him. He won't go on IR.

Giantsfan1080
08-02-2012, 08:27 AM
I don't know why but I find this quote from Martellus funny:

“Eli’s a real laid back guy. You can talk to him and just ask him what he wants. Sometimes, like the wife, you know, you never know what she wants. You ask her, and she’s like “I don’t want chicken.” Well, do you want steak? She’ll be like, “No, I don’t want steak.” Eli knows if he wants chicken or steak. So, he helps me out a whole lot. I’ll come back to him and he’s like, “I didn’t like that, I want you to do this.” I’ll be like, “OK.” Then the next time I do it, I do it the way he likes it. I like playing for Eli.”

bigbluedefense
08-02-2012, 08:42 AM
Amen Marty B. Amen.

Bitches don't know wtf they want.

Jughead10
08-02-2012, 08:46 AM
It's so true. That chicken or steak conversation comes up at least once a week in my house. When you let me me know what the F you want for dinner, feel free to make it. And get me a beer too damnit.

bigbluedefense
08-02-2012, 08:48 AM
I don't even ask anymore. It's pointless. I just tell her what we're eating/gonna do/where we're going/etc and that's that.

I rather deal with the consequences of that than deal with her constantly flip flopping and ****.

bigbluedefense
08-02-2012, 08:55 AM
Marty B looks gigantic btw. Almost like he can play OT. From what Reese said, they want him to be primarily a run blocking TE, so I guess the added muscle will help there.

Just don't screw up your routes and catch the damn ball when it comes to you and we'll be ok Bennett. And keep your mouth shut.

Am I asking for too much?

Giantsfan1080
08-02-2012, 09:07 AM
I don't care if he runs his mouth. He does it in a funny way like Jacobs used to. Now that's gone Bennett can have that role.

I think he'll do well for us. Excellent block plus like 40 catches for 4 or 5 TD's. That's what we always get from our TE's and I'm fine with it.

bigbluedefense
08-02-2012, 09:13 AM
I'm just a little nervous about my trust in him running the right choices in our system. He wasn't exactly the best route runner or display the best hands in Dallas.

Giantsfan1080
08-02-2012, 09:36 AM
I agree with that. He dropped too many balls also. Like I've been saying though if he can't succeed here with Coughlin, Pope, and Eli then he'll just be a glorified T the rest of his career.

Big_Pete
08-02-2012, 04:36 PM
I thnk Bennett will be fine, he just needs to get in sync with Eli, who will make him more effective/productive (just like Eli did with Boss and Ballard).

Between Bennett and Pascoe we will be fine.

As far as Bennett being bigger, I don't see it as an issue as long as it doesn't reduce his speed and agility too much.

After all there have been effective all round TEs at that size (Jeremy Stevens and Eric Green come to mind). He is just a freak athlete. It will mean we will almost have an extra lineman on the field.

OSUGiants17
08-02-2012, 05:18 PM
I don't know why but I find this quote from Martellus funny:

Gotta get the full quote where he says he's like a "Black Unicorn" when he's on the field.

Giantsfan1080
08-02-2012, 05:37 PM
Gotta get the full quote where he says he's like a "Black Unicorn" when he's on the field.

Haha yeah I think that was another question or he posted that on Twitter. Someone else today compared themselves to a Green Banana. It was Hosley possibly.

OSUGiants17
08-02-2012, 05:49 PM
Hahaha thats great. I really love our team this year

OSUGiants17
08-02-2012, 05:49 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/15534/cb-hosley-i%E2%80%99m-like-a-green-banana

Rosebud
08-03-2012, 03:06 PM
I <3 Hosley. Sucks what's happened to TT, but I could see a big second half of the season from Hosley as our nickel. He's got a great attitude, amazing hands and ball skills, great quickness and pluckiness, our coaches just need to turn that chippiness into better tackling and Fewell's gotta not go full ******.

BamaFalcon59
08-03-2012, 05:01 PM
Hosley <333

OSUGiants17
08-03-2012, 08:10 PM
I <3 Hosley. Sucks what's happened to TT, but I could see a big second half of the season from Hosley as our nickel. He's got a great attitude, amazing hands and ball skills, great quickness and pluckiness, our coaches just need to turn that chippiness into better tackling and Fewell's gotta not go full ******.

Dear Perry Fewell,
http://www.operatorchan.org/arch/src/13361093717.png
Love, every Giants fan everywhere

Rosebud
08-04-2012, 01:33 AM
Dear Perry Fewell,
http://www.operatorchan.org/arch/src/13361093717.png
Love, every Giants fan everywhere

Now I just want to see RDJ in blackface, doing the "you people" bit with Perry Fewell.

bigbluedefense
08-05-2012, 01:44 PM
Devin Thomas retired. Lost his passion for the game. I guess once he won that SB, he lost his desire to keep playing. Let's be honest, I don't think he ever was fully committed to the game.

I was, and still am a little worried that we will miss his contributions on Special Teams. He was a great special teamer for us and his special teams coverage is gonna be hard to replace.

But I'll always wonder how good he could have been had he put his all into football. The guy looked like a million bucks, he kept you wondering how he couldn't succeed at WR.

Either way, I'm grateful for having him on our SB team. He was a contributor.

CowboysBeastMode
08-05-2012, 04:45 PM
Don't forget OT. I'm pretty sure Will Beatty still sucks.what about selvish capers i liked him as a developmental prospect, what's he lookin like at tc

BaLLiN
08-05-2012, 06:23 PM
So is it possible for us to get Devin Thomas back?

NY+Giants=NYG
08-05-2012, 06:36 PM
Devin Thomas retired. Lost his passion for the game. I guess once he won that SB, he lost his desire to keep playing. Let's be honest, I don't think he ever was fully committed to the game.

I was, and still am a little worried that we will miss his contributions on Special Teams. He was a great special teamer for us and his special teams coverage is gonna be hard to replace.

But I'll always wonder how good he could have been had he put his all into football. The guy looked like a million bucks, he kept you wondering how he couldn't succeed at WR.

Either way, I'm grateful for having him on our SB team. He was a contributor.



Maybe he did work hard and was motivated until we didn't extend him. Now he has to re prove himself and learn a new system. I am sure that hurts especially if you think you earned a right to be extended after helping out on special teams and showing competence in our system.

Now on the Bears, everything is new! I can see why, he'd say screw that, not bust my butt for getting cut next year, and starting all over again. Like you said, if he wasn't 100% to begin with, I am sure leaving us and starting over may have been a tipping point.

Giantsfan1080
08-06-2012, 12:46 PM
I'm excited to watch David Douglas on Friday. It sounds like he's really putting in a good showing.

Giantsfan1080
08-06-2012, 02:53 PM
No ACL tear for Thomas. He will rehab and take it from there. No timetable on return right now.

OSUGiants17
08-06-2012, 02:55 PM
Holy ****, that is great news. This is awesome. Hopefully he has a quick and safe recovery and can play again this year. To me, this is just a setback and I am expecting him to be the same player he was at the beginning of THIS YEAR'S training camp.

OSUGiants17
08-06-2012, 02:59 PM
I'm excited to watch David Douglas on Friday. It sounds like he's really putting in a good showing.

I am more excited for Brandon Collins, the UDFA out of Southeast Louisiana. He transfered there from Texas and has been looking good in camp. He wears #6, just in case anyone else here wants to keep an eye on him.

bigbluedefense
08-06-2012, 03:05 PM
I'm cautious on Thomas. Everyone confirmed that there is a partial tear of his ACL, but now it sounds like he can play through it with rehab?

If that's the case, how is he gonna look out there? Is he gonna trust his knee? Should he? What player are we getting? And for how long?

I'm iffy on this one.

Giantsfan1080
08-06-2012, 03:35 PM
I'm cautious on Thomas. Everyone confirmed that there is a partial tear of his ACL, but now it sounds like he can play through it with rehab?

If that's the case, how is he gonna look out there? Is he gonna trust his knee? Should he? What player are we getting? And for how long?

I'm iffy on this one.

This is the best case scenario right now but yes there are still huge question marks. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst type thing.

bigbluedefense
08-06-2012, 03:38 PM
This is the best case scenario right now but yes there are still huge question marks. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst type thing.

I rather have closure honestly. Either he can't go or he can go. I don't want him taking reps away from other guys and then just get hurt and now we have to throw someone in there who could have had more practice if we just moved on from the start.

Giantsfan1080
08-06-2012, 03:42 PM
I am more excited for Brandon Collins, the UDFA out of Southeast Louisiana. He transfered there from Texas and has been looking good in camp. He wears #6, just in case anyone else here wants to keep an eye on him.

Well I'm just going to lump all the young WR's including DePalma, Randle, and Barden also.

Giantsfan1080
08-06-2012, 03:44 PM
I rather have closure honestly. Either he can't go or he can go. I don't want him taking reps away from other guys and then just get hurt and now we have to throw someone in there who could have had more practice if we just moved on from the start.

That's understandable. I'm assuming the rehab will be at least 2 more week so the younger guys should be getting all their reps. They should also have probably 3 games this preseason before Thomas gets back. If they can rehab the knee then we need him on the field. We're better wih him than without.

bigbluedefense
08-06-2012, 03:51 PM
That's understandable. I'm assuming the rehab will be at least 2 more week so the younger guys should be getting all their reps. They should also have probably 3 games this preseason before Thomas gets back. If they can rehab the knee then we need him on the field. We're better wih him than without.

We're better with him if he's 100%. I think even if he can play, he's probably not 100%. Then the question is, well how much does he have in the tank, and do we even want that version of TT out there?

I guess we'll see what happens.

I hope he can play and play healthy, but I don't know how this turns out.

BigBlueNorwegian
08-06-2012, 07:18 PM
I'm excited to watch David Douglas on Friday. It sounds like he's really putting in a good showing.

I went onto giants.com, and they have videos called "top five plays of training camp" every other day or so. And Douglas had one or two of the top five plays in every video I watched!! He had a one-handed catch that was just nasty, and several other impressive grabs! If he can come even close to replicate that in games, we have ourselves a keeper!

Here's the link to the video with the one-handed grab: http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Training-Camp-Top-Plays-82/cdedf7a1-3171-40af-986f-cf409f679fcb

Giantsfan1080
08-06-2012, 08:25 PM
Thomas hopes to be back within a month. Maybe we should just cut our losses on this one?

bigbluedefense
08-06-2012, 09:13 PM
He sounds desperate. Its almost like he wants to just play until he fully tears it bc he probably knows his career is over anyway.

Giantsfan1080
08-06-2012, 09:54 PM
He sounds desperate. Its almost like he wants to just play until he fully tears it bc he probably knows his career is over anyway.

Possible. Do you really think the doctors would let him do that though? Could be a huge malpractice lawsuit.

BaLLiN
08-06-2012, 10:27 PM
He sounds desperate. Its almost like he wants to just play until he fully tears it bc he probably knows his career is over anyway.

that was my first thought, we'll see. Is it a partial tear or a sprain?

BigBlueNorwegian
08-07-2012, 02:50 AM
He sounds desperate. Its almost like he wants to just play until he fully tears it bc he probably knows his career is over anyway.

Could it have something to do with an injury insurance he wants to kick in? Or is he just trying to squeeze money out of the Giants before he retires? Man, I almost feel dirty speculating like this about one of my favorite players intentions, but this sounds sort of fishy.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 07:26 AM
It's not Thomas guys. The doctors have cleared him to rehab and told him he doesn't need surgery. Thomas has no intentions for a money grab.

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 07:33 AM
Does Douglas play special teams, or can he? If he can, and him and these other guys continue to shine, Barden is as good as gone.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 07:34 AM
Does Douglas play special teams, or can he? If he can, and him and these other guys continue to shine, Barden is as good as gone.

He probably can. The reason Barden doesn't play ST is because of his body type. He's too tall to play on a coverage unit so I'm not really sure where else they could use him except to block field goals or punts.

Coughlin did say Barden will absolutely make a mark in this league but I'm starting to think it's going to be for another team that can afford him the opportunity to play more.

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 07:51 AM
I know why he can't play special teams but it doesn't change the fact that he still can't do it. If Douglas is going to be as good as some already think, then Barden is our 7th or 8th WR? And one who doesn't help anywhere else. I think it is going to take a lot of injuries for him to make the team, and knock on wood that doesn't happen.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 08:02 AM
Barden sounds like a goner. Hes being outplayed by several on the depth chart. He had his opportunities, he just never took advantage of them. Funny how hes not riding the bike this training camp now that he knows this is a make or break year isn't it?

If he doesn't have a dominant preseason he'll get cut. Hes just not fast enough to be an effective player. He never separates.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 08:05 AM
With Barden and Beatty looking disappointing thus far in their careers, the 2010 draft looks brutal. The only guy who panned out was Nicks. Everyone else washed out.

That was my favorite draft class too.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 08:13 AM
Barden rode the bike last year because he was still hurt. He participated in every other training camp. It has nothing to do with his roster status at this point.

Also, he's making just as many nice plays as the other guys. When it's game time on Friday we'll start to have a much better idea on how these younger WR's look.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 08:56 AM
Let it go GF. Just let it go. It's time to move on lol.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 09:35 AM
I'm telling you even when we cut him another team will pick him up and he'll do well.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 09:40 AM
There's rumors that his heart isn't in the game. If that's the case, he'll never realize his potential.

P Dot (@giantswfan) is always underwhelmed with him.

To me it's more about his actual game. The guy struggles vs press coverage and doesn't separate. He's slow off the line. Doesn't have great hips. Those flaws limits his ability on the field at this level. He's a underneath possession WR, there's nothing wrong with that, but in our vertical offense he's not effective enough getting downfield quickly enough and getting the separation we need in our offense.

He'll stick somewhere else, but I doubt we lose any sleep over losing him. He'll be an average player.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 09:45 AM
Well regardless I'm still getting more excited to see everyone on Friday while I pray for no major injuries.

Rosebud
08-07-2012, 09:50 AM
I'm telling you even when we cut him another team will pick him up and he'll do well.

I still have a feeling that that team could be us for this season, granted I do see him walking eventually, but only after breaking out for us. But I was a huge fan of his coming out so this feeling may be more wishful thinking than anything, but it just seems like it fits, especially if Nicks spends a lot of time banged up again.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 09:50 AM
DVR the games. It's the only time we get to see some of our younger developing talent, and it's a good way to remind yourself of what they looked like.

I hope for no injuries. And I'm interesting mostly in our OL and LB core. LB core bc I want to see how much our young depth have improved, if they deserve the merit they've been receiving in camp, and the OL bc I'm worried about the OL.

Especially LT. We put all our eggs in Beatty's basket, and that was a mistake.

We better hope either Locklear or Brewer can step up and grab the RT position so we can move Diehl back to LT for another year.

Rosebud
08-07-2012, 09:55 AM
Beatty you're just too harsh on, when healthy he's actually played competently, lacked in the running game, but I'll settle for mediocre push if he's pass pro is as solid as it was when he was healthy. He needs to stay healthy this year, but unlike Barden he's already shown he can contribute in more than one game.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 09:56 AM
Beatty's back is supposedly looking good Coughlin said.

Also, I will require your guys' awesome analysis for the pre-season game since I don't get them down here in South Carolina.

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 09:57 AM
I know it's being played on the NFL Network at noon on Saturday for anyone who has that channel but can't get the live game on Fri night.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 09:59 AM
I'll definitely be DVR'ing the games. I'm most interested in the WR's and LB's. I hope Williams plays. He's supposed to be 15 more pounds of added muscle with the same exact speed. We really have something here if that's the case.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 09:59 AM
I can't agree, Beatty sucks.

He's an awful run blocker, and he's a below avg pass protector. He's not as good as Diehl at LT, and Diehl isn't exactly Joe Thomas himself.

Beatty's biggest flaw is blitz recognition. He misses his assignment often when teams blitz bc he diagnoses the blitz slowly and either picks up his man late, or doesn't pick them up at all.

He's not a good run blocker, he's not a good pass protector. He's just not good.

And he's about 290 lbs soaking wet after 4 games bc he can't add weight to his frame, or just refuses to do so. Either way, he can't handle a bull rush.

All he's good for is pass pro vs speed rushers when they send 4. That's it.

Stunts also confuse the **** out of him. He's just not good.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 10:02 AM
I'll definitely be DVR'ing the games. I'm most interested in the WR's and LB's. I hope Williams plays. He's supposed to be 15 more pounds of added muscle with the same exact speed. We really have something here if that's the case.

Williams is gonna be a stud. I think he'll be Boley's replacement when we let him walk next year.

He's an explosive and dynamic blitzer, he's got great speed, excellent coverage skills, good tackling, long arms, he's got PB potential as an OLB.

I actually like him at SAM/Joker bc he's such a good blitzer. But regardless, he should start in the near future.

If him and Herzlich pan out, our biggest weakness on defense suddenly becomes a strength. It's exciting to think about.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 10:03 AM
I know it's being played on the NFL Network at noon on Saturday for anyone who has that channel but can't get the live game on Fri night.

Sadly I don't get the NFL Network either.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-07-2012, 10:11 AM
I'm telling you even when we cut him another team will pick him up and he'll do well.

Ok, so? That's football. A player can not do well in our system, and put him in another and good things happen. Good for him and good for the team who can see him as a good fit in their system. That's the beauty of the sport. One person's so called trash is another teams gold.

You can't even fear that another team will pick him up and he'll do well. You have to do what's good for your team.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-07-2012, 10:12 AM
The question with Thomas is, do we save a roster spot for a guy that has a health question mark? We may pass on a player that can be developed just because Thomas needs a spot. I am not sure I like that. His health is a big question mark. If someone else on the team shows promise I'd rather spend that spot on that guy rather than someone whose knee is having issues.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 10:14 AM
Williams is gonna be a stud. I think he'll be Boley's replacement when we let him walk next year.

He's an explosive and dynamic blitzer, he's got great speed, excellent coverage skills, good tackling, long arms, he's got PB potential as an OLB.

I actually like him at SAM/Joker bc he's such a good blitzer. But regardless, he should start in the near future.

If him and Herzlich pan out, our biggest weakness on defense suddenly becomes a strength. It's exciting to think about.

Yeah that sounds about right to me. Should be a good duo going forward if Herzlich really has regained that form.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 10:15 AM
Ok, so? That's football. A player can not do well in our system, and put him in another and good things happen. Good for him and good for the team who can see him as a good fit in their system. That's the beauty of the sport. One person's so called trash is another teams gold.

You can't even fear that another team will pick him up and he'll do well. You have to do what's good for your team.

It's not the system. It's the fact he's always had 2 studs above him on the depth chart. I never said I feared it either.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-07-2012, 10:22 AM
It's not the system. It's the fact he's always had 2 studs above him on the depth chart. I never said I feared it either.

Of course it's the system. That's where the inconsistencies are arising. He has the physical ability and when it doesn't count he puts on a show. But come game time, especially the Jets came, it was a mess. That's what's keeping out out of the lineup. And the fact he doesn't play special teams has kept him from even being active. He is basically a waste of a roster spot.

My point is if he goes to another team and does well, good for him and good for the team. That happens. Sometimes the other team is a better fit.

Rosebud
08-07-2012, 10:25 AM
Barden's problem has been his health, hips and inability to play specials, not his inability to fit the scheme.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 10:34 AM
Who cares anyway. Let him take his shirt off whenever the cameras come on for another team. Peace out.

Im more interested in seeing this Douglas character. And my boy Rueben Randle.

I really hope our run blocking has improved too. Bennett, a healthy Baas, a more experienced Hynousaurus, and better RBs should hopefully improve our run game.

But you never know.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-07-2012, 10:35 AM
Barden's problem has been his health, hips and inability to play specials, not his inability to fit the scheme.

To me, this is his make or break TC. He needs to step up, or make way for a roster spot with someone with better potential to be developed. He can't be inactive because he is too consistent AND/OR can't play special teams. You have to be able to do something and be consistent at it.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-07-2012, 10:38 AM
Who cares anyway. Let him take his shirt off whenever the cameras come on for another team. Peace out.

Im more interested in seeing this Douglas character. And my boy Rueben Randle.

I really hope our run blocking has improved too. Bennett, a healthy Baas, a more experienced Hynousaurus, and better RBs should hopefully improve our run game.

But you never know.




You have a boy now? Or offense non the less? Hmm, interesting, so does this mean you like offense better than defense? Have you matured BBD?

I want to see how MB does at TE, and Baas. The OL needs to stay healthy and be able to create running lanes for Bradshaw and Wilson. Not sure, I want Ware taking reps from Scott, and Wilson. Let's see how both do, and have Ware just in case.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 11:01 AM
You have a boy now? Or offense non the less? Hmm, interesting, so does this mean you like offense better than defense? Have you matured BBD?

I want to see how MB does at TE, and Baas. The OL needs to stay healthy and be able to create running lanes for Bradshaw and Wilson. Not sure, I want Ware taking reps from Scott, and Wilson. Let's see how both do, and have Ware just in case.

Nope. Outside of Eli, Nicks and Cruz, I don't really care for offense. Now Randle is growing on me, but that's it.

On defense on the other hand, I pretty much like everybody.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-07-2012, 11:36 AM
Nope. Outside of Eli, Nicks and Cruz, I don't really care for offense. Now Randle is growing on me, but that's it.

On defense on the other hand, I pretty much like everybody.

Oh, well then. BOOOOOOOOOO! That is all.

Rosebud
08-07-2012, 11:47 AM
I really like our RBs. Bradshaw, Wilson and Scott are each really hard runners and each bring different big play ability, Bradshaw with his passing and wisdom, Wilson with his shiftiness and balance, and Scott with his pure speed and viciously straight forward running. I'm still disappointed Mike Adams didn't fall to us in the second round, add him to our OL and our running game would turn into a force by the playoffs. I've warmed up to Randle because he does seem like a great scheme fit, but damn it did I want to come away from this draft with one of Mike Adams or Cordy Glenn.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 11:49 AM
Looking at how the roster is shaping up so far, I'd say the biggest needs going into the draft will be:

OT
CB
TE
DE
DT

I think we should draft CB or DE in the first. But if OT looks that bad, we might have to bite the bullet and go OT. Of course, all of this is subject to change.

I've been harping on an eminent roster turnover that will occur on this team 2 years from now, maybe as early as next year, but with how our depth is filling out, it doesn't scare me as much as it used to:

DE: We'll be set with Tuck who will be re-signed and JPP for years to come. And while we'll lose Osi, I think Kiwi will extend for a reasonable price, or if not, we can always draft another one. This doesn't concern me.

DT: Joseph will anchor NT for awhile. We'll lose Canty, and Bernard, so hopefully Austin steps up. I'm sure we'll draft more bodies in the middle rounds as well. Not overly concerned. We don't value DTs as much as other teams.

LB: We'll lose Boley, Chase, Rivers, and possibly Kiwi. But if Herzlich, Williams, and Paysinger keep it up, we won't miss a beat. Our LB core is actually filled with plenty of young talent waiting to take over. So the losses we suffer here are made up for in house already.

CB: Webster will be gone, and so will Thomas. This is an area of concern. How good can Prince be? Let's assume for argument sake he'll be a reliable #2. Now how good can Hosely be? Let's hope he can be a solid #3. That means we'll need to draft a #1 CB. If both those guys disappoint, we might need an overhaul here. That could be potentially a problem. My gut says we'll just need 1 CB though, so we should be fine here as well.

S: We can't keep both Rolle and KP. Plus Rolle is getting old. We'll lose 1 of these 2. If Will Hill can step up to the plate and we can re-sign KP which Im hoping we can, we'll be fine. Again, you gotta give Reese and co a ton of credit for building our depth so we have a lot of replacements in house already.

Offense:

I'll keep it short. Just keep Eli, Nicks, and Cruz. Everyone else is replaceable. We have young talent in the farm system on OL to step up. I think Petrus can eventually start, I like Moseley to eventually replace Snee, Baas is unfortunately here to stay, so really we just need upgrades at OT which I'm sure we'll farm in during the next 2 years. TE...whatever. Who cares. And we have WRs. RBs are easy to find.

So as long as we keep drafting the way we draft, while we'll see a roster turnover soon, I don't think we'll be rebuilding. That's what's so great about having a stud GM.

When you have a stud qb and a stud GM, you'll always be competitive.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 11:56 AM
Pretty much agree with everything there BBD. I favor Paysinger over Jones but I think Jones has had a great camp so far so it might be him who's here to stay.

CB and DE are our biggest needs as we stand today. I really hope we can get deals done soon with the younger 5 guys JPP, Nicks, Cruz, Joseph, and Phillips. My gut says we lose 1 or possibly even 2 of them though.

Rosebud
08-07-2012, 12:03 PM
I'll add MLB and S to that list of needs for next year. My only real disagreement is DE, I think we need to spend a quality pick on project in the next two years. Even if we keep JPP, Tuck and Kiwi around for the foreseeable future, the injury questions around the latter two and age of Tuck make me think it's getting to be time to add another huge ceilinged kid into the pipeline.

We could use another top two round DB and a true beast at DE, OT or LB. In the second round we'll probably no longer have a shot at any of the true stud DEs and OTs, so at that point I'd wait and pick up a super raw project later for those spots, and look at DB, DT, TE and LB, since those positions usual hold very good depth into the second round.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 12:05 PM
We did get Osi in the 2nd and Tuck in the 3rd.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 12:05 PM
I have a feeling it could be Phillips. I hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I also like Paysinger over Jones, but it does sound like Jones is tearing it up so far in camp, so Jones might stick and Paysinger might go. Either way, some team is gonna pick up a quality LB off of our cuts.

Rolle is going to be interesting. Hes a big cap hit, and he's reaching 30. I'm hoping we let go of Rolle and keep Kenny. But we'll see.

JPP and Eli's contracts will determine the rest of these guys. They'll take up a lot of cap moving forward.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 12:09 PM
I'm all for drafting a DE in the 1st. It's impossible to say where you can grab one bc you don't know what the DE depth is gonna be like draft to draft, but it's safe to assume that there will be talent there in the 1st.

I generally like taking DEs and DBs in the 1st.

I just hope we can find a solution to both OT positions without having to spend a 1st on a LT. Because that would free us up to invest in the other critical positions and replenish them.

I think we should be able to fill in depth at DE and DB over the next 2 seasons. Which means we have to make the other positions work, including OT.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 12:23 PM
Logan Ryan if he comes out. Book it.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 12:26 PM
He sucks doodoo.

Rosebud
08-07-2012, 12:26 PM
We did get Osi in the 2nd and Tuck in the 3rd.

I always forget that Osi was a second and not third round pick, but then again Osi would go in the first if he were coming out this year. And Tuck would be that project pick I was referring to, although with him it was due to injury and rawness, rather than just rawness, but still. You can find pure upside in the 3rd and 4th rounds at DE that's comparable to the guys that usually go round two, they're just further away from it, which isn't a problem for us. The guys who are truly special and stand out from their class on their pure upside go round one, so if we don't get one I'd rather wait a little and get a guy with a similar ceiling, who may need more work, a round or two later

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 12:33 PM
He sucks doodoo.

Don't you start now Forenci! I still haven't bashed Beatty.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 12:46 PM
Don't you start now Forenci! I still haven't bashed Beatty.

Beatty is doodoo too.

#RayRiceistheexception

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 12:58 PM
Or Kenny Britt(on the field), McCourty, and so on. Sanu and Ryan are the next best things.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 01:02 PM
Kenny Britt is injury plagued and is a horrible human being. McCourty isn't that good. Sanu fell to the third round despite the Rutgers hype machine.

#Rutgersispoopoo

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 01:14 PM
I'm not getting into it. #UConnisdiarrhea.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 01:14 PM
I'm not getting into it. #UConnisdiarrhea.

At least I accept we are terrible.

#Rutgersfansindenial

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 01:19 PM
At least I accept we are terrible.

#Rutgersfansindenial

Haha. That is very true. Haha.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 01:20 PM
Naa half the fan base hated Schiano at this point and was glad to see him leave. We do have tons of NFL talent on the team though so it's not denial. Let's see if Flood puts it together better.

If Rutgers fans are in denial I don't even know what state to consider ND fans.

Rosebud
08-07-2012, 01:22 PM
If Rutgers fans are in denial I don't even know what state to consider ND fans.

Depression.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 01:23 PM
Naa half the fan base hated Schiano at this point and was glad to see him leave. We do have tons of NFL talent on the team though so it's not denial. Let's see if Flood puts it together better.

If Rutgers fans are in denial I don't even know what state to consider ND fans.

Haha, I mainly just poke fun at you guys. I do think it's funny how Rutgers fans actually think it's a good program when they've barely had one or two good season in the past decade despite having so much "talent."

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 01:32 PM
I liked Schianno. Alot.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 01:45 PM
Haha, I mainly just poke fun at you guys. I do think it's funny how Rutgers fans actually think it's a good program when they've barely had one or two good season in the past decade despite having so much "talent."

It's more the idea that Rutgers is a sleeping giant 2nd tier program and that we're slowly creeping there since there is tons of potential considering everything. We've had more than 2 good seasons though.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 01:56 PM
It's more the idea that Rutgers is a sleeping giant 2nd tier program and that we're slowly creeping there since there is tons of potential considering everything. We've had more than 2 good seasons though.

You guys have never even won the Big East Championship...

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 01:56 PM
Naa half the fan base hated Schiano at this point and was glad to see him leave. We do have tons of NFL talent on the team though so it's not denial. Let's see if Flood puts it together better.

If Rutgers fans are in denial I don't even know what state to consider ND fans.

It's not been great for ND lately either. But they have been to BCS Bowls within the last 5-7 years and they don't play a terrible Big East schedule. You know my problem is that you always defend that pathetic schedule. And then when Rutgers goes 7-5 with that schedule, I'm supposed to get excited? I think not.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 02:07 PM
Like I said it's getting better. You have to schedule these teams so far in advance you never know when they'll be good or not. Look at the Penn State series we have. It would have been a premier matchup but now it's going to be **** because of something Rutgers could have never in a million years have foreseen. Anyway we still have Arkansas, UCLA, Miami, and another big time opponent which will be announced on Thursday so it's getting better.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 02:08 PM
You guys have never even won the Big East Championship...

That's a huge problem and what Schiano deservedly got blasted for. No excuse not to have at least 1 with the teams we've had.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 02:10 PM
And to be fair, I think Notre Dame is a big steaming pile of ball sacks too. Whether they've been a BCS game or not recently. The whole, "ACADEMICS!!" argument is so old. They still get plenty of great players. They just suck.

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 02:15 PM
And to be fair, I think Notre Dame is a big steaming pile of ball sacks too. Whether they've been a BCS game or not recently. The whole, "ACADEMICS!!" argument is so old. They still get plenty of great players. They just suck.

It's a valid argument. There are just certain players other big schools can get that they can't. But their academics for football players isn't like Stanford and they've been amazing over the last 2-3 years.

Forenci
08-07-2012, 02:19 PM
It's a valid argument. There are just certain players other big schools can get that they can't. But their academics for football players isn't like Stanford and they've been amazing over the last 2-3 years.

Yep. It's far more about awful coaching than anything else.

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 02:19 PM
Like I said it's getting better. You have to schedule these teams so far in advance you never know when they'll be good or not. Look at the Penn State series we have. It would have been a premier matchup but now it's going to be **** because of something Rutgers could have never in a million years have foreseen. Anyway we still have Arkansas, UCLA, Miami, and another big time opponent which will be announced on Thursday so it's getting better.

They need to get in a real conference. Can't play a crappy Big East schedule every year, lose every year to only team worth their weight in **** in that crappy conference, and be happy with 7-5 with 4 wins over the crappy out of conference teams they schedule. Those new teams should be a good challenge, but I think it could also be a rude awakening.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 02:25 PM
They need to get in a real conference. Can't play a crappy Big East schedule every year, lose every year to only team worth their weight in **** in that crappy conference, and be happy with 7-5 with 4 wins over the crappy out of conference teams they schedule. Those new teams should be a good challenge, but I think it could also be a rude awakening.

I understand that and agree with you. The perception that the Big East was always the worst conference is a little off though. They were never any worse than the ACC and most of the time they were a better conference.

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 02:29 PM
Yep. It's far more about awful coaching than anything else.

Yes, at least recently. While Weis was there, they just didn't have the athletes on defense.

Jughead10
08-07-2012, 02:44 PM
I understand that and agree with you. The perception that the Big East was always the worst conference is a little off though. They were never any worse than the ACC and most of the time they were a better conference.

I don't know about that. Maybe for a year or two they were better than the ACC but it certainly wasn't long lived. Now they are by far worse and the ACC is pretty terrible too.

Giantsfan1080
08-07-2012, 02:50 PM
Yes now they are the worst.

Anyway back to the Giants. Hosley had a monster practice today. Still my favorite pick of the draft.

bigbluedefense
08-07-2012, 02:56 PM
The Jags should be a good test for our offense. The Jags have a very good defense.

Our defense shouldn't even show up though. Blaine Gabbert? That's gonna be a lulz fest.

But then again, if Fewell unleashes the rush 3 Cover 2, we'll make Gabbert look like Montana.

Bc you know, a qb who wets his vagina at the nearest sign of pressure should totally get 3 man rushes all day.

Fewell makes me nervous. I miss Spagnuolo.

OSUGiants17
08-07-2012, 03:22 PM
I've said it before and I will say it again, Will Muschamp would be the perfect DC for this team. I loved what he did at Texas and I love what he is doing at Florida.

EDIT: His one year as a NFL DC for the Dolphins:
As assistant head coach and defensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins, Muschamp's defense ranked fifteenth in total defense in the NFL. The Dolphins allowed 19.8 points per game and 317.4 total yards per game during the 2005 NFL season. Muschamp's unit also ranked second in the NFL with 49 quarterback sacks.

That was a defense that was solid, but aging talent, and only had one year to learn his D.

scottyboy
08-07-2012, 03:35 PM
Haha, I mainly just poke fun at you guys. I do think it's funny how Rutgers fans actually think it's a good program when they've barely had one or two good season in the past decade despite having so much "talent."

to be fair, we have produced some pretty solid NFL players in the past 5 years or so. We just never put it together at the same time AND JAMES TOWNSEND DROPPED THAT ******* PASS AGAINST WEST VIRGINIA AND I WANT TO BURN HIS HOUSE DOWN.

we've had individual talent, just never together on the field at RU.

To be fair, Zak and I, while we have our delusions (ok, I have most of them), we haven't been really wrong on a prospect outside of maybe Leonard. Jury's still out on Sanu

Logan Ryan is the real deal. I'm 100% with Zak on that one

Ron
08-07-2012, 03:38 PM
I've said it before and I will say it again, Will Muschamp would be the perfect DC for this team. I loved what he did at Texas and I love what he is doing at Florida.

EDIT: His one year as a NFL DC for the Dolphins:
As assistant head coach and defensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins, Muschamp's defense ranked fifteenth in total defense in the NFL. The Dolphins allowed 19.8 points per game and 317.4 total yards per game during the 2005 NFL season. Muschamp's unit also ranked second in the NFL with 49 quarterback sacks.

That was a defense that was solid, but aging talent, and only had one year to learn his D.

Muschamp wouldnt leave his job to be a DC in the NFL. Only way he makes the jump is to be a HC. Gotta be realistic.

OSUGiants17
08-07-2012, 03:43 PM
Muschamp wouldnt leave his job to be a DC in the NFL. Only way he makes the jump is to be a HC. Gotta be realistic.

I'm aware, I didn't say it would happen, I was saying if it did it would be awesome. Also, who are you?

Forenci
08-08-2012, 11:19 AM
It sounds like Adrian Tracy has been beasting it in camp. I wonder if he can carry that into the season and maybe reduce our need for drafting a DE early? I remember seeing him in the pre-season last year and he looks like a damn beast. Scary big. I'll be interested to hear how he does in pre-season and during the year.

Sounds like Brandon Mosley has been having a good camp too. That's always exciting. Maybe we get a quality starter out of him, or at the very worst a good back up. Always a win to have great back up linemen. A truly underrated element of making a great team.

OSUGiants17
08-08-2012, 11:44 AM
Yea Tracy should replace Wosi well. I like him more than Trattou.

2 more days guys!!!!!

Giantsfan1080
08-08-2012, 11:50 AM
I'm more of a Trattou guy but his early injury has set him back in the race.

I just need football this Friday already so I can make some of my own judgements.

bigbluedefense
08-08-2012, 12:27 PM
I was always a Tracy fan. A bit surprised no one grabbed him off our PS. But let's be realistic here guys, he was a PS player last year. How high should we set expectations?

That's why we need to see these guys in action before we get too excited. I don't want to fall into the trap of training camp hype. The games are where the real players separate themselves from the guys who just look good in practice.

Remember Cruz was never that great at practice, he blew up during the preseason. Barden and Sinorice on the other hand, were training camp superstars who didn't do a damn thing when they got on the field. So let's see how these games shape up and take it from there.

Forenci
08-08-2012, 01:26 PM
I was always a Tracy fan. A bit surprised no one grabbed him off our PS. But let's be realistic here guys, he was a PS player last year. How high should we set expectations?

That's why we need to see these guys in action before we get too excited. I don't want to fall into the trap of training camp hype. The games are where the real players separate themselves from the guys who just look good in practice.

Remember Cruz was never that great at practice, he blew up during the preseason. Barden and Sinorice on the other hand, were training camp superstars who didn't do a damn thing when they got on the field. So let's see how these games shape up and take it from there.

Weren't we basically considering him a LB though? I feel like we're solely focusing him as a DE, and he seems much better there.

And I thought Cruz did have a great training camp before he blew up in the pre-season?

Giantsfan1080
08-08-2012, 01:34 PM
Cruz was one of the last guys to make the roster last year. He was really close to getting cut.

We tried to do with Tracy what we did to Sintim. Both are better off at pure DE.

bigbluedefense
08-08-2012, 01:51 PM
I thought Tracy actually looked pretty decent at LB. I think with the logjam there though, they figure they're better off just moving him to DE so he can stick on the roster.

Tracy was more impressive at LB than Sintim was.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-08-2012, 02:38 PM
I thought Tracy actually looked pretty decent at LB. I think with the logjam there though, they figure they're better off just moving him to DE so he can stick on the roster.

Tracy was more impressive at LB than Sintim was.

I keep forgetting that fool Sintim is even on the team, lol. Just cut him already! He and Barden aren't doing anything.

Forenci
08-08-2012, 02:40 PM
I keep forgetting that fool Sintim is even on the team, lol. Just cut him already! He and Barden aren't doing anything.

I mean, Barden is having a good camp so I'm not sure what you mean by this.

With injuries, I want to keep as many good WR's as we can without compromising other parts of the team.

Giantsfan1080
08-08-2012, 02:41 PM
Easy response from the non Bardenites:

Barden always has a great camp.
Barden needs to prove it on the field already.

NY+Giants=NYG
08-08-2012, 02:42 PM
I mean, Barden is having a good camp so I'm not sure what you mean by this.

With injuries, I want to keep as many good WR's as we can without compromising other parts of the team.

Check the main thread. He is in the training camp superstar. Every year same thing. Barden does well during camp, and then is inactive for most games. Inconsistent, and was injured for us. Then doesn't play special teams so he is inactive.

Forenci
08-08-2012, 02:46 PM
Check the main thread. He is in the training camp superstar. Every year same thing. Barden does well during camp, and then is inactive for most games. Inconsistent, and was injured for us. Then doesn't play special teams so he is inactive.

That's fine, but if you're comparing him to players who haven't played before and are having lesser camps then I would much rather keep him.

Jughead10
08-08-2012, 02:49 PM
That's fine, but if you're comparing him to players who haven't played before and are having lesser camps then I would much rather keep him.

Who is he comparing him to that is having a lesser camp? Barden has to be decently better than these guys to make the team. Because if these guys are younger, can play special teams, and are further away from Free Agency, as long as they are close to equal as Barden, they are worth keeping over him.

Forenci
08-09-2012, 09:12 AM
I will be relying on your guys' pre-season analysis! Ah, I'm so excited and I won't even be able to see the damn game, haha.

By the way, I feel like you guys should start a collective Giants blog or something. With all the great/knowledgeable insight from BBD, NYG, Jug, GF, etc. I bet it'd be pretty good stuff. A lot of different voices with different perspectives.

bigbluedefense
08-09-2012, 09:36 AM
It wouldn't be a bad idea. Make some doe off of advertisements and hits.

Rosebud
08-09-2012, 09:39 AM
We could have a segment called the "Fewell **** up" for talking about coaching stupidity.

Forenci
08-09-2012, 10:15 AM
It wouldn't be a bad idea. Make some doe off of advertisements and hits.

Haha, very possible. With proper social media use and promotion making a successful blog (with good blog contributors) really isn't all that difficult. The hardest part for most people is having worthwhile/informed opinions and something valid to contribute. That and not having god awful grammar and editing.

My bachelor's degree is in journalism so I probably could help in that department!

Giantsfan1080
08-09-2012, 12:46 PM
That's really not a bad idea at all Forenci. I love Rosebud's idea. We could easily get a company to sponsor the Fewell ****up moment of the day.

scottyboy
08-09-2012, 03:14 PM
I will be relying on your guys' pre-season analysis! Ah, I'm so excited and I won't even be able to see the damn game, haha.

By the way, I feel like you guys should start a collective Giants blog or something. With all the great/knowledgeable insight from BBD, NYG, Jug, GF, etc. I bet it'd be pretty good stuff. A lot of different voices with different perspectives.

:(

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/617/okayguy.jpg

Rosebud
08-09-2012, 03:27 PM
Scotty you get your own monthly column called the "Ray Rice and Rutgers Rubdown"

Giantsfan1080
08-09-2012, 03:47 PM
:(

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/617/okayguy.jpg

It's ok we could start a Rutgers blog and make fun of Uconn more.

Forenci
08-09-2012, 04:24 PM
:(

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I SAID ETC.! YOU ARE PART OF THE ETC.!

I just didn't feel like listing everyone's names out!

BigBlueNorwegian
08-09-2012, 05:36 PM
It's a lot of work to write a blog, even though it's also a lot of fun! I wrote a blog during the European championship in soccer this June, and it took two-three hours every day for a month. And that came on top of my day-job and studies.

With that said, If you guys were two or three to split the duties, it would be manageable. I know for sure that I would read every post :)

scottyboy
08-09-2012, 05:58 PM
I SAID ETC.! YOU ARE PART OF THE ETC.!

I just didn't feel like listing everyone's names out!

MY FIRST POST WILL BE HOW MUCH BEATTY IS A POOP!

i'm just messing around though. It really is how funny how we can all agree on so much, but also disagree on so much at the same time, it's awesome and offers room for a lot of friendly debate. Which is also cool, we don't ever blow up at each other like a lot of fan bases. We pretty much rule.

Well except that one time Number 10 wanted to fight someone at penn station or something

BigBlueNorwegian
08-09-2012, 06:12 PM
MY FIRST POST WILL BE HOW MUCH BEATTY IS A POOP!

i'm just messing around though. It really is how funny how we can all agree on so much, but also disagree on so much at the same time, it's awesome and offers room for a lot of friendly debate. Which is also cool, we don't ever blow up at each other like a lot of fan bases. We pretty much rule.

Well except that one time Number 10 wanted to fight someone at penn station or something


Lol, someone wanted to fight in here?! I love all you guys! I learn something new almost every day about football, the Giants, Rutgers, you name it! When I finally one day get my ass over to NYC to watch a game, I'm definetly buying everyone who wants to meet up a beer!

Malaka
08-09-2012, 06:17 PM
Yeah a Giants blog from you guys would be awesome.

I have become a lurker more than a poster the last few years, but one of the reason I keep coming back is this Giants page. I learn so much from here, and it also helps me argue with those damn Eagles fans who I have the misfortune of being friends with.

I really appreciate all the Giants posters on NFLDC!

scottyboy
08-09-2012, 06:20 PM
Lol, someone wanted to fight in here?! I love all you guys! I learn something new almost every day about football, the Giants, Rutgers, you name it! When I finally one day get my ass over to NYC to watch a game, I'm definetly buying everyone who wants to meet up a beer!

yup, if you remember Number 10. It was in the old thread (which inexplicably got deleted or something). I can't for the life of me remember who it was with or over what though. We all got "our popcorn ready" for that one.

And a Giants game meetup would be awesome. Hell, even if it were just a preseason game or something

Giantsfan1080
08-09-2012, 06:24 PM
I'm still pissed that old thread got deleted.

Also, Scotty we are definitely meeting for a beer at a Rutgers game or a Giants game this year. Or both.

LTgiants
08-09-2012, 06:59 PM
http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/puppet_facepalm.gif

That Penn Station thing was me. I don't remember who it was with maybe it was Number 10 but I do remember it is cause I hated Paul Poz.

Ah the good ol days.

OSUGiants17
08-09-2012, 07:06 PM
And a Giants game meetup would be awesome. Hell, even if it were just a preseason game or something

Hell yea, I have always wanted to do this. Just gotta wait till I'm 21 so I can actually drink at a game though

Rosebud
08-09-2012, 09:26 PM
Number 10 was a better and more productive poster than you.

Forenci
08-09-2012, 11:22 PM
Haha, it would be fun. I could see some cool things done with a blog, i.e. NYG's offensive analysis versus BBD's defensive analysis, round table discussions, etc.

Jughead10
08-10-2012, 08:26 AM
3 things I want to see tonight (or tomorrow when I actually watch it):

David Douglas. I hope he lives up to the camp hype. I'm obviously not expecting a game like Cruz against the Jets when he was a rookie, but I'd like to him shine a bit.

Blaine Gabbert. I'd like to see him continue to look like Blaine Gabbert. I know it's only preseason but I'd prefer the defense take it seriously and not make him look competent in any way.

Finally, NO INJURIESZZZZZ!!!!!!!

bigbluedefense
08-10-2012, 09:37 AM
I'm looking at Herzlich, Randle, Bennett and the OL.

Prince and Hosely too. And of course no injuries.

I'm gonna DVR the game. It's gonna be hard to break down Xs and Os bc we'll see some very basic schemes, but I want to break down technique and see who was executing right.

bigbluedefense
08-10-2012, 10:08 AM
It would be pretty cool if we could all DVR the game so when we break down the game and cite certain plays, we can all go back and look at the same thing.

I just hope I remember to DVR it...

Rosebud
08-10-2012, 10:12 AM
It would be pretty cool if we could all DVR the game so when we break down the game and cite certain plays, we can all go back and look at the same thing.

I just hope I remember to DVR it...

This is much tougher for those of us living far from NY. Could one of you guys who is DVR'ing every game put them up somewhere online?

bigbluedefense
08-10-2012, 10:25 AM
I'm not good with computers, but if someone can do this, or perhaps save it as a wmv or mp4 file and provide all of us with the download link that would be great.

Forenci
08-10-2012, 11:39 AM
If someone could do that I would marry them.

Giantsfan1080
08-10-2012, 11:55 AM
I already have my DVR set because I probably won't be able to watch in depth tonight due to drinking alcohol. I have no idea how to save something off a Cablevision DVR though unfortuantely.

I'm looking forward to mostly the younger players. Douglas, Randle, Wilson, Austin, Hosley, DePalma, and of course Barden.

Forenci
08-10-2012, 12:00 PM
I already have my DVR set because I probably won't be able to watch in depth tonight due to drinking alcohol. I have no idea how to save something off a Cablevision DVR though unfortuantely.

I'm looking forward to mostly the younger players. Douglas, Randle, Wilson, Austin, Hosley, DePalma, and of course Barden.

Damn you GF! Make me the happiest man in the universe!

Giantsfan1080
08-10-2012, 12:07 PM
If you find out how to do it I'll try and make it work for you.

Forenci
08-10-2012, 12:08 PM
If you find out how to do it I'll try and make it work for you.

I might be able to if I knew what type of box you had.

Giantsfan1080
08-10-2012, 12:09 PM
I already said it's a HD Cablevision DVR. Get with it!

Forenci
08-10-2012, 12:10 PM
I already said it's a HD Cablevision DVR. Get with it!

Haha, anything more specific I mean?

Giantsfan1080
08-10-2012, 12:23 PM
Nope that's all I got for you while I'm at work. I think you need a DVR on the computer with a TV tuner in order to get games online though.

LTgiants
08-10-2012, 12:27 PM
You are going to need a capture software otherwise it wont work.

Giantsfan1080
08-10-2012, 12:29 PM
Also very excited to see Will Hill tonight. He's probably been making the most noise out of the younger guys on D so far.

LTgiants
08-10-2012, 03:28 PM
Players OUT for tonight (per Pat Hanlon)

Not scheduled to play 2nite for #Giants 19 David Douglas, 24 Terrell Thomas, 33 Darell Scott, 43 Jake Muasau, 57 Jacquian Williams, 59 Michael Boley, 65 William Beatty, 69 Justin Trattou 95 Rocky Bernard

Giantsfan1080
08-10-2012, 03:34 PM
WTF???? Douglas what happened to him?

Giantsfan1080
08-10-2012, 03:38 PM
To answer myself it's a quad thing. Hixon also questionable. Barden take advantage of this **** tonight!!!!!

BaLLiN
08-10-2012, 07:05 PM
Jernigan wouldve just had a TD if it weren't for a ridiculous arm lock by the Jag DB #29, great stem on his routes. I think he gives us some options on where we put cruz with his versatility and routes.

OSUGiants17
08-10-2012, 07:35 PM
Adrian Tracy might be our new Wosi.....'cept he's black. Bosi???

scottyboy
08-10-2012, 07:37 PM
tracy's looked really good. Hendricks had a really nice play just now

Malaka
08-10-2012, 07:37 PM
I think it was BBD who has been pimping him all this time; good call.

I definitely like Tracy and hope he continues to develop he has some mean potential. Could be the player we thought Sintim could be.

scottyboy
08-10-2012, 07:38 PM
also, before BBD calls JJ the next Sinorice Moss, I wanna see him on the inside

BaLLiN
08-10-2012, 07:42 PM
JJ looks good, just bad throws and PI against him twice that wasn't called.

scottyboy
08-10-2012, 08:04 PM
the end zone throw was perfectly placed by Eli.

and Hosley could be pretty good for us. It's against scrubs, but he could be good

scottyboy
08-10-2012, 08:06 PM
uhmmmm just not as a punt returner...

BaLLiN
08-10-2012, 08:27 PM
the end zone throw was perfectly placed by Eli.

and Hosley could be pretty good for us. It's against scrubs, but he could be good

Not really, JJ had most of the endzone left and has speed, why even allow the DB to defend the throw? he couldve put it out there.