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jared3
02-12-2011, 03:52 PM
-Feel free to leave comments.
-If you don't like a certain player at a certain spot, please say so.
-For the Vikings, I think they pick up a veteran QB bc they have an older team.

1. Panthers- DT Nick Fairley, Auburn
2. Broncos- S/CB Patrick Peterson, LSU
3. Bills- DE Robert Quinn, North Carolina
4. Bengals- WR AJ Green, Georgia
5. Cards- LB/DE Von Miller, Texas A&M
6. Browns- DE Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
7. 49ers- CB Prince Amukamara, Nebraska
8. Titans- QB Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
9. Cowboys- DE Cameron Jordan, California
10. Redskins- DT Marcell Dareus, Alabama
11. Texans- DE Aldon Smith, Missouri
12. Vikings- DE Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue
13. Lions- CB Brandon Harris, Miami FL.
14. Rams- WR Julio Jones, Alabama
15. Dolphins- QB Cam Newton, Auburn
16. Jaguars- DE JJ Watt, Wisconsin
17. Patriots (f/Oak)- RB Mark Ingram, Alabama
18. Chargers- DT Corey Liuget, Illinois
19. NY Giants- OT Nate Solder, Colorado
20. Bucs- OT Anthony Castonzo, Bost Coll.
21. Chiefs- C/G Stefen Wisniewski, Penn St.
22. Colts- OT Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
23. Eagles- OT Tryon Smith, USC
24. Saints- DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
25. Seahawks- QB Jake Locker, Washington
26. Ravens- CB Jimmy Smith, Colorado
27. Falcons- WR Leonard Hankerson, Miami FL.
28. Patriots- OT Derrick Sherrod, Miss St.
29. NY Jets- OLB/DE Justin Houston, Georgia
30. Bears- G/T Marcus Cannon, TCU
31. Steelers- DE Cameron Heyward, Ohio St.
32. Packers- RB Mikel Leshoure, Illinois
Rd 2
33. Patriots (f/ Car)- WR Titus Young, Boise St.
34. Bills- ILB Martez Wilson, Illinoios
35. Bengals- G/C Mike Pouncey, Florida
36. Broncos- TE Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
37. Browns- WR Torrey Smith, Maryland
38. Cards- CB Aaron Williams, Texas
39. Titans- DE/OLB Brooks Reed, Arizona
40. Cowboys- DT Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple
41. Redskins- G Rodney Hudson, Florida St.
42. Texans- DT Phil Taylor, Baylor
43. Vikings- FS Rahim Moore, UCLA
44. Lions- OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA
45. 49ers- QB Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
46. Broncos (f/Miami) DT/DE Christian Ballard, Iowa
47. Rams- DT Stephen Paea, Oregon St.
48. Raiders- OT DeMarcus Love, Arkansas
49. Jaguars- QB Christian Ponder, Florida St.
50. Chargers- SS Ahmad Black, Florida
51. NY Giants- DT Drake Nevis, LSU
52. Bucs- LB Greg Jones, Michigan St.
53. Chiefs- WR Jerell Jernigan, Troy
54. Colts- CB/S Ras I-Dowling, Virginia
55. Eagles- CB Brandon Burton, Utah
56. Saints- DT Jerell Powe, Ole Miss
57. Seahawks- CB Davon House, New Mexico St.
58. Ravens- WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pitt
59. Falcons- OLB/DE Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma
60. Patriots- OLB Mark Herzlich, Bost Coll.
61. Chargers (f/Jets)- OLB Dontay Moch, Nevada
62. Bears- DT/DE Allen Bailey, Miami FL.
63. Steelers- OT Ben Ijalana, Villanova
64. Packers- CB Curtis Brown, Texas
Rd 3
65. Panthers- WR Vincent Brown, San Diego St
66. Bengals- SS DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson
67. Broncos- ILB Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
68. Bills- TE DJ Williams, Arkansas
69. Cards- OT James Carpenter, Alabama
70. Browns- ILB Nate Irving, NC St.
71. Cowboys- G/C John Moffitt, Wisconsin
72. Saints- OLB Bruce Carter, North Carolina
73. Texans- FS Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
74. Patriots (f/Minn) DE Jabaal Sheard, Pitt
75. Lions- ILB Kelvin Sheppard, LSU
76. 49ers- RB Daniel Thomas, Kansas St.
77. Titans- TE Luke Stocker, Tennessee
78. Rams- RB Kendall Hunter, Ok St.
79. Dolphins- TE Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin
80. Jaguars- DT Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson
81. Raiders- OT Jason Pinkston, Pitt
82. Chargers- WR Austin Pettis, Boise St.
83. NY Giants- RB Ryan Williams, Va Tech
84. Bucs- RB DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma
85. Eagles- G Danny Watkins, Baylor
86. Chiefs- DT Jurell Casey, USC
87. Colts- CB Kendrick Burney, North Carolina
88. Saints- RB Jordan Todman, Uconn
89. Chargers(f/Seattle) CB Johnny Patrick, Lville
90. Ravens- OLB Mason Foster, Washington
91. Falcons- OT Chris Hairston, Clemson
92. Patriots- G Clint Boling, Georgia
93. Bears- DT Marvin Austin, North Carolina
94. NY Jets- WR/KR Randall Cobb, Kentucky
95. Steelers- OT Orlando Franklin, Miami FL.
96. Packers- WR Ronald Johnson, USC
Rd 4
97. Panthers- CB Rashad Carmichael, Va Tech
98. Seahawks (f/Denver)- DE Greg Romerus, Pitt
99. Bills- QB Colin Kaepernick, Nevada
100. Bengals- DT Kendrick Ellis, Hampton

Best player available imo: S Robert Sands, WV

Pat Sims 90
02-12-2011, 03:56 PM
Yea the Bengals are stuck with Dan LeFevour as the starting QB. Maybe we can get even luckier and go after Todd Collins in FA.

49erNation85
02-12-2011, 04:03 PM
Almost pear perfect draft for SF.I like Mallet's value in the second for SF.I honestly think he would a be good fit in JH wco play book etc.But I dunno if we need a RB we have Gore and maybe Westbrooke if they resign or FA there.But BPA works in round 3!So nice job for SF!

Babylon
02-12-2011, 04:28 PM
Would be very happy with Locker in Seattle but i doubt he gets to that pick, i can see someone trading back into the middle part of the first and grabbing him before Seattle. Pete Carroll would be wise to trade up a bit to get him but i dont have as much confidence in that coaching staff as some do.

In the second i could see going for a decent guard as there seem to be some available per your list of players.

Go_Eagles77
02-12-2011, 04:47 PM
Very nice job filling our needs, though I'm not sure I'm crazy about the players, other than Watkins. Still very solid.

BeerBaron
02-12-2011, 05:12 PM
Not a bad Bears draft. I like Sherrod in the first. Not a big Baldwin fan but he's talented enough to be worth a shot in the 2nd. And I like Mason Foster even though LB isn't a huge need at this time.

I'd like to see us take a DT at some point in the first 3 rounds though. Anthony Adams will be a free agent and we're unlikely to keep Tommie Harris at his current salary...so that would leave us with only Matt Toeiana and Henry Melton at the position. Something to keep in mind anyway.

coordinator0
02-12-2011, 05:20 PM
Pretty good Ravens picks, although Foster would look really good in the third instead of Jenkins.

Dam8610
02-12-2011, 05:42 PM
I'd rather have Ben Ijalana in Round 2 and Lee Ziemba in round 3. Lock down LT, RT, and one of the OG spots for several years (with hopefully McClendon locking down either the other G spot or the C spot) for the Colts.

Don Vito
02-12-2011, 05:48 PM
17. Patriots (f/Oak)- DE JJ Watt, Wisconsin
28. Patriots- OT Tryon Smith, USC
33. Patriots (f/ Car)- DE Cameron Heyward, Ohio St.
60. Patriots- OLB/DE Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma
74. Patriots (f/Minn) WR Austin Pettis, Boise St.
92. Patriots- G Clint Boling, Georgia


We could definitely use a DE, but we don't need two. Either Watt or Heyward would be awesome for us but we don't need both. I am not a big Tyron Smith fan, we could use a tackle but he is just too much of a boom or bust type for me. Beal is a pretty good pick at the end of the second round, and I really like the Pettis and Boling picks in the third.

Matthew Jones
02-12-2011, 06:36 PM
I'd rather have Ben Ijalana in Round 2 and Lee Ziemba in round 3. Lock down LT, RT, and one of the OG spots for several years (with hopefully McClendon locking down either the other G spot or the C spot) for the Colts.

If you watched the Senior Bowl 1 on 1s, you wouldn't be using the phrase "lock down" with Lee Ziemba unless it was opposite day. Dude was getting annihilated by every opponent.

Abaddon
02-12-2011, 07:13 PM
48. Raiders- OT Jason Pinkston, Pitt

Probably too soon for Pinkston. Likely not the type of big horse Oakland needs. DeMarcus Love would be a good value there and a better player/fit. Could even see Ijalana there.

81. Raiders- G/C John Moffitt, Wisconsin

B. E. A. UTIFUL!

fenikz
02-12-2011, 07:21 PM
You have Ijalana way too low, would love him for AZ in the 3rd though, may very well be our pick in the 2nd. Overall solid mock, hit our 3 biggest needs

prock
02-12-2011, 07:28 PM
Awesome Vikings mock.

crites09
02-12-2011, 07:42 PM
Good Bengals draft... There is no QB in this draft that can start for them so good work

GatorsBullsFan
02-12-2011, 07:59 PM
No way Jags even look at Marvin Austin with his character issues

Scotty D
02-12-2011, 10:57 PM
1st and 3rd round picks are solid for the Lions. I'd change the second rounder because I don't like Carter's ACL and 2 LBs in the first 3 rounds is a bit much. I'd rather have Baldwin or an OL in the second.

scar988
02-12-2011, 11:20 PM
awful Falcons 2nd rounder. we need a DE, not a DT and all Allen Bailey is to us is a UT.

SimonRath
02-13-2011, 03:48 AM
awful Falcons 2nd rounder. we need a DE, not a DT and all Allen Bailey is to us is a UT.

nor do we need 2 frickin WR's..

BmoreBlackByrdz
02-13-2011, 08:31 AM
Good Ravens 1st rounder

Give us Baldwin over Jernigan in the 2nd.

gsorace
02-13-2011, 08:39 AM
Stephen Paea doesn't fit anywhere in the Jets defense.

vidae
02-13-2011, 09:59 AM
If Wiegmann retires C will be our biggest need, so you did a great job for KC.

thegreatone
02-13-2011, 11:01 AM
Love it for the Ravens.

thebow305
02-13-2011, 01:42 PM
Solid Miami draft, but I have a feeling if Kaepernick makes it to our pick in the 3rd, we would take him or one of the OG's Moffitt or Watkins over Kendricks.

wicket
02-13-2011, 02:10 PM
Good saints mock but for the second rounder, the saints have zero need for a qb, its no use comtemplating for having 7 rbs on IR so its not useful to draft to cope with that.

change the saints second rounder to bailey or powe and the saints second third rounder (the Guy pick, prefer 2 olbs over 2 DEnds and the value is better) to mason foster and you have the perfect saints mock given your big board

SimonRath
02-13-2011, 02:53 PM
No way Jags even look at Marvin Austin with his character issues

aside from that one bone headed move that got him suspended all of last year, Austin doesn't really have any character concerns. From what ive heard he is really sorry and feels awfull that he put him self in that position and let his team down.

My only real concern is hes friends with Weslye Saunders..

Who Dat Nation
02-14-2011, 01:49 PM
Good saints mock but for the second rounder, the saints have zero need for a qb, its no use comtemplating for having 7 rbs on IR so its not useful to draft to cope with that.

change the saints second rounder to bailey or powe and the saints second third rounder (the Guy pick, prefer 2 olbs over 2 DEnds and the value is better) to mason foster and you have the perfect saints mock given your big board

You saying RB isn't a need?

wicket
02-14-2011, 05:45 PM
You saying RB isn't a need?

affirmative, i hate when we would spend a early round pick on planning for a situation where 7 rbs are on IR. An attack of thomas, bush, hamilton and ivory is something id be not only content with going into the season, but happy. some times clusterfucks happen and its really not useful planning for them as you sacrifice much bigger needs and situations that actually do need attention

Seasonticketholder
02-14-2011, 07:05 PM
Good saints mock but for the second rounder, the saints have zero need for a qb, its no use comtemplating for having 7 rbs on IR so its not useful to draft to cope with that.



Reggie Bush will likely be back but is not a guy we will look to carry the load.

Chris Ivory will also be back. He's talented but has not shown that he can stay healthy. His durability was questioned at the collegiate level and he has not done anything to shed those concerns. The lisfranc injury, by the way, is very serious. You just cannot count on him alone to carry the load.

Pierre Thomas is a FA who may not be back on the team. There are rumblings that the team will move on. Last season, there seem to be a great deal of tension between Pierre and coaching staff/front office. At one point, they tried to trade him to the Patriots. If the team lets him leave via FA, his role and production has to be replaced.

Lionel Hamiltion What has he proven? And you're going to count on a guy who is coming off IR.
Joique Bell Has no experience, no track record. Can we count on him? I do not think so.

PJ Hill Has already been cut.
Julian Jones is a journeyman who has a penchant for fumbling.
LaDell Betts See above.


affirmative, i hate when we would spend a early round pick on planning for a situation where 7 rbs are on IR. An attack of thomas, bush, hamilton and ivory is something id be not only content with going into the season, but happy. some times clusterfucks happen and its really not useful planning for them as you sacrifice much bigger needs and situations that actually do need attention


So having outlined out RB situation above, I canot see how you can draw the conclusion you do here. Our running game, even with the players you name, has not been special since Payton's arrival. Outside out of our Superbowl run, we have finished no higher than 28th in rushing offense. This places a lot of pressure on Drew to have to carry the team. When he is on, we are difficult to beat. But if he's off--as he was against such teams as the Browns and Cardinals--then it becomes a daunting challenge for us to win. I think the other thing to consider is that over the past 4 years, WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE BACK finish an entire season. So even if last season was somewhat an abberration, it sort of suggests that finding a durable guy has been quite a challenge. Finally, we have not had a 1000 yard back since Deuce. 2009 sort of showed that you don't need one guy in order to be successful. But if you do not have that one guy who can carry the load, then you better make sure that the sum of your parts is able to consistently get the job done. Other than our Superbowl run, we have not shown that our guys can do that.

I think defense needs upgrading. But to sit and pretend as if we do not need help at RB is troubling. I think RB and DE are easily our two biggest needs. The Saints will go best player available. If that's a DE, fine. We need help there. But if that's a RB, and it very well could be, then we might as well get ready to cheer for a guy who might potentially carry the load and take the pressure off Drew and our defense. And if you can pair Bush and Ivory with a guy like Ingram or even Leshoure, then I think you can give the team the potential to have the sort of running game that helps to sustain drives, finish games, and keep your defense fresh.

wicket
02-15-2011, 02:00 AM
Reggie Bush will likely be back but is not a guy we will look to carry the load.

Chris Ivory will also be back. He's talented but has not shown that he can stay healthy. His durability was questioned at the collegiate level and he has not done anything to shed those concerns. The lisfranc injury, by the way, is very serious. You just cannot count on him alone to carry the load.

Pierre Thomas is a FA who may not be back on the team. There are rumblings that the team will move on. Last season, there seem to be a great deal of tension between Pierre and coaching staff/front office. At one point, they tried to trade him to the Patriots. If the team lets him leave via FA, his role and production has to be replaced.

Lionel Hamiltion What has he proven? And you're going to count on a guy who is coming off IR.
Joique Bell Has no experience, no track record. Can we count on him? I do not think so.

PJ Hill Has already been cut.
Julian Jones is a journeyman who has a penchant for fumbling.
LaDell Betts See above.





So having outlined out RB situation above, I canot see how you can draw the conclusion you do here. Our running game, even with the players you name, has not been special since Payton's arrival. Outside out of our Superbowl run, we have finished no higher than 28th in rushing offense. This places a lot of pressure on Drew to have to carry the team. When he is on, we are difficult to beat. But if he's off--as he was against such teams as the Browns and Cardinals--then it becomes a daunting challenge for us to win. I think the other thing to consider is that over the past 4 years, WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE BACK finish an entire season. So even if last season was somewhat an abberration, it sort of suggests that finding a durable guy has been quite a challenge. Finally, we have not had a 1000 yard back since Deuce. 2009 sort of showed that you don't need one guy in order to be successful. But if you do not have that one guy who can carry the load, then you better make sure that the sum of your parts is able to consistently get the job done. Other than our Superbowl run, we have not shown that our guys can do that.

I think defense needs upgrading. But to sit and pretend as if we do not need help at RB is troubling. I think RB and DE are easily our two biggest needs. The Saints will go best player available. If that's a DE, fine. We need help there. But if that's a RB, and it very well could be, then we might as well get ready to cheer for a guy who might potentially carry the load and take the pressure off Drew and our defense. And if you can pair Bush and Ivory with a guy like Ingram or even Leshoure, then I think you can give the team the potential to have the sort of running game that helps to sustain drives, finish games, and keep your defense fresh.

so you want a guy thats proven to have a guy that is proven and proven to be durable, that is exactly what you cant get in a draft, if you look for that root for the position to be adressed in free agency. another point is where nola was ranked in the rushing rankings, this is just to be expected with payton unless there are a whole lot of games reaching garbage time early like in the superbowl run.

Just for reference, how i rank the needs:

Wlb
Dend
Dt
Slb

Gap

Ss
Interior oline

Gap

Fs
Rb
Rt

Seasonticketholder
02-15-2011, 12:11 PM
so you want a guy thats proven to have a guy that is proven and proven to be durable, that is exactly what you cant get in a draft, if you look for that root for the position to be adressed in free agency. another point is where nola was ranked in the rushing rankings, this is just to be expected with payton unless there are a whole lot of games reaching garbage time early like in the superbowl run.

Just for reference, how i rank the needs:

Wlb
Dend
Dt
Slb

Gap

Ss
Interior oline

Gap

Fs
Rb
Rt

I guess we will agree to disagree. But I would suggest getting comfortable with the idea of taking a RB. If Ingram is there, I don't know too many guys they will take over him.

Also, I try to think realistically about how this team tends to draft. They do not value LBs in the first round. It doesn't mean they won't take one but that the player has to be a premium prospect in order for them to consider it.

Also, they are excited about Jonathan Casillas and have him all but penciled in at WLB. I think the SAM LB spot will be much more of a need they will look to fill. Still, I think if Bruce Carter is there in the third, even as a WLB, you have to take him.

We have a need at DT in terms of our numbers at the position. But the likelihood of this team drafting a tackle in the first round is slim. I could see a NT in the second or third. I could even see a guy like Muhammad Wilkerson if he's on the board in the second. But I don't see Paea unless he is there in the second. This team values Remi Ayodele. Some of us might not like it but they do. They also attempted to trade for Barry Coefield last year and I could see them trying to sign him. Mike Patterson will also be available and so you might see them do something with this position in FA.

DE is a HUGE need, especially given that Will Smith will likely miss the first four games. If the right guy is there, I could see the Saints taking him. The Saints, though, are of the philosophy that a DE is not likely to come in and start. What I do not see happening is the Saints taking 3-4 DEs and playing them in the 4-3. JJ Watt is a fantastic player and all around talent. But he does not offer the Saints to the pass-rushing specialist they sorely need. Aldon Smith is talented but will take some time. Kerrigan could be a guy they go after. But I would not at all surprised if you see the Saints target guys like Mathias Kiwanuka, Vernon Gholston, etc. They might look to sign one or two DEs and continue to develop Junior Gallette who they are excited about. A dream scenario would be to see them pursue Charles Johnson should he be available. Signing Charles Johnson, Gholston (who should come cheap, is young, and might play better in a 4-3), and either Coefield or Patterson, to me, is better than trying to go into a draft where the type of defensive end we need will likely be on the board when we pick.

Monomach
02-17-2011, 12:05 PM
30. Bears- OT Derrick Sherrod, Miss St.
62. Bears- WR Jonathan Baldwin, Pitt
93. Bears- DT Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson


This is win.